The inquisition of the Quran being created & Imam Ahmad | Mufti Abu Layth

so today people will say oh you know imam ahmad was the father of allah sunnah how was imam ahmed the father of sunnah i don't know how he was the father of sunnah what made him the father of allah a genuine question what made him the father this is just something that humbly's used to say but today it became you see the propaganda is so widespread that everybody says it and they don't know why they say it oh imam ahmad was the father of sunnah you say well

why he said why isn't imam malik the father of why is imam ahmed say yeah but he got beaten up for it he said was so i mean what you know like in all honesty he did get beat up for the quran masala is it created or not created and he took a stance saying it's not created and he got beat up but according to the humbles he actually did say it was created and they let him off i mean sorry sorry according to the mata so jahid and these people write that imam ahmed actually accepted and that's why he wasn't killed he was spared

not because he was some saint you know this is just propaganda that later humbly said oh he was some kind of saint so they let him off like hell would they care about him being some saint i mean you need to read what those what they were doing i mean they didn't give a damn about him he wasn't this huge person that he later on became you see so in his day and age he was taken and beaten they they they didn't care about who he was he wasn't norma he was a very poor person imam ahmad he wasn't like imam abu hanifa and imam malik who were incredibly wealthy and connected they they had like huge networks of power

in their day and age imam ahmad and imam were incredibly poor they were like from you know barely meet the subsistence level they you know like they were struggling to to meet just to rise above the poverty line these people never had no powerful networks neither were they feared nor were they i'm not trying to diss them i mean they you know they did a great service to in in striving for islam and learning about islam but they weren't these figures that they posthumously became so imam ahmad in his day and age did

take a stance against the caliph and yes so did many people he wasn't the only person other people were actually killed he wasn't killed and his inquisition was actually very small compared to what happened to the other people because his inquisition takes place during matt moon's time who only lives for four months during the inquisition the inquisition goes on for 15 years so imam ahmed gets off very lightly and the question was why did he get off so this is one of the questions a lot of people ask that why did he get off and

he says and then he was under he was not allowed to teach publicly and he didn't teach you know so this he wasn't this kind of great defiance of authority because when they said you better not teach he didn't teach he just sat at home for the rest of his life and obviously didn't teach publicly so he wasn't this great defiant character but he did take a stance on that and then he was let off within weeks he was let off the hook and the question was why was he off the hook when other people were clearly not lit off the hook and they were great scholars and some of them were and the martha silas say because he just

said after a couple of weeks yeah i say whatever you say and they let him go and then when he was released he just when people asked him did you say he just said no but according to the mata he did say it he said yes the quran is created to please the caliph and then got let off and to be honest with you this is not hard to believe because it wouldn't be haram to do that you know it's okay to save your life even if you don't believe in something to say that you believe in it so and later on he must have just been embarrassed and not owned up to it but the hamballis after him are the ones

that big him up and turn him into this glorified hero that oh imam ahmed was the father of allah and he strives and he does this and does that and yeah and the reason i'm mentioning this is because how our discourse is so dominated today without even realizing like we say things we don't know the history behind them you know and so what we say today

oh is the quran created even many ash hadi's don't realize that actually their books say it is created they just use a different word and these guys have never thought about it remember i told you that dr he reached out to me last year saying that look mufti you know i heard you say this and this is wrong the shadies don't say this and they never say the quran is created

i said to him sure they do they just you know i think you need to check re-read the text and he said well i've read it a hundred times and all this and he went back and forth and then i showed him i said well you've clearly read this part haven't you and he said yeah and i said well what do you think that means when it says that the uh that calam that love thee is mahdith that the worded kalam of allah which is the quran the arabic quran is it is actually invented and generated

and then he just went ah and the penny dropped and this happens with many ashari's they don't know but the actual books do teach you that the arabic quran is a created quran but the original message with god was an unworded message it did not contain words it was like a sheer frequency which once it enters this realm becomes created in words i hope that makes uh make sense