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Recordings › Lupe Fiasco | Stardom, Semiotics & Soul-searching | MindTrap#56 | Mufti Abu Layth al-Maliki MALM · 26 Apr 2021 › Segment 12 of 27

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Are psychedelics like mushrooms and DMT haram?

sawm roza siyam rozah saum muftis hukm ahkam hukum hukam ahkaam haraam forbidden deen al-din ad-deen ad-din

Psychedelics, alcohol and the 'medicinal line'

DiscussionRecorded 26 Apr 2021MindTrap with Mufti Abu LaythSegment 12 of 27 in the recording2021-04-26-S12

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Mufti Abu Layth says he has a video saying psychedelics are not haram; the guest says he has never drunk or used drugs and judges such substances by a medicinal line.

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Mufti Abu Layth asks for the guest's thoughts on psychedelics such as mushrooms and DMT, mentioning that he has a video saying psychedelics are not haram. The guest says his mother drank and smoked, that he bucketed all such substances with alcohol, so he has never drunk or smoked or experimented, and that he is still on the fence about their ethics. Mufti distinguishes intoxicants used to numb people from curiosity about discovering the realm; the guest says he looks at it along a medicinal line, noting that many medicines start in nature, and expects his first cannabis brownie for his arthritis will be memorable. Mufti jokes that he tried to tempt the fasting guest to break his fast before the stream.

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this this if it's not secular it's a different uh uh sect or version or family or ruling class um who has a certain relationship to the religion in a direct or indirect way uh coming up with how to use the religion how to present it how to to use it to promote itself how to use it to capture the the minds of the world or something like that so as much as china may seem like a basket case yeah once you learn the extent of how they go and you start to map that onto other places it seems like oh this is the thing with religion right religion is has always been used but seeing that you find that very

57:45

interesting uh lupe just to you know like these practices these kind of like strange wow kind of you know they peak curiosity what are your thoughts on what are your thoughts on psychedelics and things like mushrooms and dmt come on talk to us you know what it's again another hot take yeah you know in my relationship islam you know never as a disclaimer i've got a video

58:24

saying that psychedelics are not haram you can watch it people how convenient you know i always kind of put all that stuff in the same bucket as like alcohol you know i looked at marijuana all that stuff the interesting part is that my mom drank you know mom yeah i think she drinks my mama smokes a little bit um and so again being born muslim not being raised muslim you're going to open up the refrigerator it's a 40 ounce in there right and my mind is like that has to be delicious because the way that they drink it it has to be delicious my mom was like i'll give you a sip of some

59:03

non-alcoholic beer some old duels which is like this is trash like y'all sit and drink this and then you realize no we're drinking it to get drunk like that's the point that's not how it tastes um but i always bucketed everything in that so i never smoked um never drank um you know then didn't find any motive to experiment anything uh psychedelics or anything like that i'm still a little bit on the fence about the the ethics and the morals behind some of that stuff too because um this stuff more than you see because there's this right okay there's certain things that are

59:42

like intoxicants or just drugs or you know something to to kind of just drown the personnel of this world in reality to kind of numb them out and whether it's numb the pain or numb you know people and they take drugs and things but here this is more about a kind of um a curiosity of of kind of disc of just discovering the realm

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[Laughter] i mean i i hear i hear all that i've always been one to you know this world is to be used um you know it's good and bad there's things in this world which will harm you and harm others um there's things in this world that will benefit you and benefit others and sometimes the signal gets mixed about what is beneficial what's not beneficial um i always look at it as just kind of like the medicinal line you know like if it's medicinal and it's in it's it's you know most drugs

1:00:57

even pharmaceuticals they still start in nature in some capacity it's the bark of a tree it's the you know that this flower is this root or something like that just in pill form or a synthetic version of that to isolate certain behave certain aspects of it and effects um so i don't really take that like it has to be natural or i don't take that piece but i do think that there's a certain um you know um just chemical stasis that you need to maintain yeah and it might be different for different people but if you're hurt and you're in pain you know that's why i look at it like i'm glad i didn't smoke weed because i know when my hip starts to go or my my arthritis starts to kick in

1:01:36

that first hit of like weed brownie is gonna just be the best high of all time right i'm gonna i'll probably go i'll probably die for my first bite i have to say people before we went live i tried to tempt lupe into breaking this fast i said i said have you got a drink do you want to go get a drink and i'll look at the sun but he passed the test that was me lucifer trying to

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Mufti Abu Layth. (2021, April 26). Are psychedelics like mushrooms and DMT haram? [Video, segment 2021-04-26-S12, auto-transcribed, may contain errors]. Mufti Abu Layth Archive. Retrieved November 1, 2026, from https://muftiabulayth.org/r/oyiipehuiha/s/12/
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Mufti Abu Layth. 2021. "Are psychedelics like mushrooms and DMT haram?" Video, segment 2021-04-26-S12, auto-transcribed, may contain errors. Mufti Abu Layth Archive. Recorded April 26, 2021. Accessed November 1, 2026. https://muftiabulayth.org/r/oyiipehuiha/s/12/
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  author = {Mufti Abu Layth},
  title = {{Are psychedelics like mushrooms and DMT haram?}},
  year = {2021},
  month = {4},
  date = {2021-04-26},
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  url = {https://muftiabulayth.org/r/oyiipehuiha/s/12/},
  organization = {Mufti Abu Layth Archive},
  urldate = {2026-11-01},
  note = {Segment 2021-04-26-S12, auto-transcribed, may contain errors}
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