Monday Nights with Mufti Abu Layth | Session 27

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fascination in just watching people run after a football or run after a ball I could I mean I can understand Maybe the wisdom in playing games but I could never understand how people become kind of entranced by watching that I just couldn't on a personal basis I can't relate to it so weird I am what can I say right well people let's see what questions we've already got firing in right I've got no idea people

football thing you can't ask me who should stay who should leave makes no sense to me so you can use the table if you want right that's all right so let me see if any questions

discuss these two issues what are the stages before the neander neander man and can we as Muslims accept the narratives that ape bonobos uh were the original species from which human s that is not what evolution actually States it doesn't actually say we emanated from uh bonobo apes okay so I'm just trying to log into some of the questions that have already been said on on my status

so let's where are we right as you can see today by the way I didn't even bother today with the time I was like I'm just in my own world I can't be I can't really get into all of this right so uh this Evolution question before moving on Evolution people is a fact okay denying evolution is just

silly all right the thing is what we can speak about is that okay we as Muslims believe that Adam Alam was a miracle like he had some miraculous touch to him and therefore um he may not have been born of womb but in terms of him as a um a kind of genus he followed on as a as part of a Genus do you understand so the the way for

example Isa we as Muslims would say was not born of a man yet he was a man and resembled men if you understand what I'm saying he absolutely was a man 100% And resembled men 100% just like all other men even though there was a man missing before he was born in a similar way Adam alisam those kind of per if we going to take the miracle angle of say he was somehow miraculous he was still in line with

what was the homo species okay except he would have been a miraculous kind of uh a dynamic turn for for the human species so before him there were other humans humans meaning homo um so the homo species somebody's mentioned neander obviously Homo sapiens didn't evolve from neandertals anyway as you're probably aware of that they say that nandels and Homo sapiens and maybe even denan actually Den ofan

man they say had an earlier kind of uh breakoff but but uh these two they feel may have been both at some point broke off from uh um homo H highle beines is the one that they feel nandel and Homo sapien sapien means wise okay that's what it means is that that this was a human and Homo means human so these were all humans if if you consider them and in Arabic we would say they were all Bashar okay and we believe Adam to have been the first

insan so we don't believe these other Bashar were insan but they were all Bashar and Adam was Basher um except insan is unique to ban okay so that's how it is and neander tals I mean they some I'm not sure why the question was unique to neandertals but neander tals are a unique species they um now they I mean they were very they were more sophisticated than people think they were so people have this

image of them as being very um um kind of um you know just like like almost like these kind of Apen and now discoveries anthropological discoveries show that's not the case um they would have most likely had language um maybe not as sophisticated as our language I don't think it would have been as sophisticated as modern human language but they would have had some language uh they they all by the way they all knew things like fire how to

work with fire and stuff like this that had been fire has actually been around for almost you know just under perhaps 2 million years considering modern man has only been around what anything between 100 250,000 years fire having been around for almost under 2 million years with hom aasta and you know hom erectus and all these these other kind of they've all had fire so the undertale man was um I mean generally he would have been more I mean you've all seen the kind of

images perhaps more they say slightly shorter than modern man on average I think they give the description of neander tals being around maybe about 5' six but much stockier much more stronger than modern man in some of the documentaries they give a description of them being I mean I don't know why they draw this parallel but they say they would have bench pressed anything between 150 to 200 kilos uh that's what neand if they were in the gym which so I don't know why they give that but they I've seen that in some of the the kind

of documentaries but they would have been very strong very um um and and even their tools were very uh their tools when tested today were actually better than modern human tools and so modern humans use things like bamboo and other things as well they used other kind of things as knives as well and and part of their throwing you know the the kind of whether they would have become arrows or Spears and stuff like this but the the neander they used a particular they they Ed particular kind of stone uh which one was very hard to craft in that particular way and two

it was actually much more enhanced and sharper than modern man and so so nowadays they've replicated experiments where they'll cut leather and they'll see that with the modern man tools you'd have to kind of keep slice hacking but with the neander kind of tools you just slice right through it they also show that neandertals had some very primitive form of surgery going on um because they show certain bones that have been healed uh and replaced and stuff like this and so and now they feel they've even discovered what may have been a ceremonial site so they may have had

some form of Ceremonies um but it would have been very primitive okay the there is now overwhelming evidence that they M with modern man um but obviously it was it was a small amount and it's been diluted out over the time and I think the last neandertals were probably around I think around 35,000 years ago or something like that which isn't an actually such a long time ago when you think about it and so it's Unique that since this last

ice age we are the only humans to have continued otherwise for thousands and thousands of years we all kind of shared this habitat the globe but um we are and really human beings since this last ice age everything has really happened I mean agriculture arrives on the scene changes everything agriculture is only uh about 9,000 years old um in fact all wheat on Earth can trace its DNA just to Asia Minor and they can actually Trace where it where it came from so prior to

that nobody knew agriculture they all you know so so the point is that humans have really kind of um gone through these shifts and but what makes us unique in my understanding is as Allah says in the Quran this spirit of God that has been given to insan and I don't think although you know Allah says we kind of blew into him our spirit I don't in my understanding that's not not a physical it's not talking about a physical the

spirit of God but it's talking about the capacity what it rendered insan into it turned uh modern humans into something just amazing seriously uh uh and it's it's interesting that um it's interesting actually the these topics because we're getting to a stage now where we you know by looking into DNA and looking into genes we can now potentially control certain things so that is very

interesting cuz the question like like if I was to put a question out there that that for example what is one of the if if we were to say one of our extreme purposes let's say one of our purposes in this world was to be happy then we now know how happiness works right you can only so for example all happiness out there all happiness has a flu and sealing effect with the kind of serotonin levels we have in our brain okay so some people uh so for example

serotonin you're going to say dopamine and oxytocin these neurotransmitters in the brain will work miracles on on people being happy but there will always be just a sealing effect you can never get more happier than that sealing effect because that's how these kind of transmitters all you know you only have a certain capacity as a human being so it is interesting when we think um you know what is going on that we can now manipulate certain things I I I was listening to this one study

about for ex uh about um certain rodents that were being kind of uh ex exp exp explored explored and and they were like similar to mice they incredibly promiscuous uh always have mating multiple mating Partners but they found that a particular kind to be just very monogamous right throughout its lifetime and now scientists have Tracked Down the gene they track down the gene in that creature uh that they feel is responsible for

monogamy so you see so now technically if they could correlate these back to let's say human DNA it means that they could make human beings monogamous okay now they've tested that they're testing that on these kind of creatures but what it also means is that human beings can now completely manipulate social structures or they may have the potential to do that completely I mean right now we have an evolutionary kind

of mindset so male creatures think in a particular way female creatures think in a particular way or behave in a particular way and this is part of our evolutionary kind of f Who We Are as creatures as human creatures now to think that humans are now embarking on at a stage in life where we can manipulate all of that potentially I mean I mean I the question is would you want to live in a uh a world like that that's the question I mean on one hand it's terrifying on one

hand it's incredibly exciting to see the kind of discovery that people are making and um it's interesting because there's a book written in the early I think it was in 1930 there was a book written by an author Huxley um it's called The Brave New World but it's it's it's a novel but in this novel it's about the future it's kind of a counterpart to uh all World 1984 because all world is speaking about this whole dictatorship where you know you have that kind of big brother is always looking down at you

he's always watching everything it's totalitarianism but in huxley's Brave New World people kind of have these drugs and everything and this consumerism that they're so bought into that they don't want change that no there are no Wars in his world there are no um you know there's no illnesses there's no and everybody's just the people work they laborers they whatever and they're just happy they're always just happy they take all these they take drugs they take different things uh they just being they're kind of

brainwashed into this consumerism of just they buy all these things that always that they feel will make them happy but they are just so content with this that they do not want to challenge anything now that's this novel also had people incredibly worried as in Fr like it bothered people that by just taking a drug or by doing things that you would just be in this content state of mind and it's amazing because we are in some ways in a society where because all these things

technically consumerism and everything it's very new and I mean I'm not trying to you see unlike some people who just condemn all these things I'm not necessarily condemning but what I'm doing is just putting a question mark an introspective question mark where we're looking into ourselves and thinking W you know just wow like what what has become of this world and where have human beings got to in such a short span of time and now we have this whole society where you know we'll go we'll buy Stu and but all a

part of it and you see if you're going to say well are we better off without it I mean maybe we're not better off without it I'm not saying we are better off without it I'm just saying it's incredibly puzzling that's all where we are that's all let's let's let's move on to a different question shall we why can't a child of Zena inherit okay uh Bush I'm not sure what that means um because that can have many

ramifications to it okay I think you can inherit even from traditional based on different circumstances what does z mean so so for example um Z here could mean nah the nah has taken place with some doubts it could include as in the imif and other people had said If a person had committed Z but then marries the person to keep sat to keep kind of uh in these circumstances they would

inherit and even in classical F they do inherit in these circumstances so I'm not sure what you mean this could mean for example somebody you've had no contact with they turn up 35 years later they say hey your child um okay now that that's you can imagine okay today we could maybe say DNA uh but historically you can imagine how that would cause complexities in you know people believing that what are the other motives uh can you please do something does

something about perinal perinal perinal I don't know what perinel is so no idea if the hijab is here to protect women from being lustfully stared at by women by men as some argue why were slave women not required to cover cover up you see I I totally agree with you Abdul um this is a very good question these kind of questions cut to the heart of um really of in intellectual

religiosity of of trying to tackle things objectively because I personally to start off with I personally do believe that um servant slave women in the past although this is now an obsolete question but I do believe that they would have had the same requirements as normal women okay I do not believe that they uh would have uh been told that it's okay you can go around topless and do all of this and do all of that I don't personally believe that that this what I'm saying is the view of certain

Scholars that have argued this throughout uh centuries including people like IAM other people who uh and that is what I find myself in line with um so I I do believe that okay now that said I understand that most people disagree with me so most people feel that slave women do not need to cover up and they don't even need they don't not need to cover their breasts they do not need to cover their uh and it's weird really because they say they need to cover their knees to the naval I

mean I mean I get the okay I get the thighs but I mean I would have thought people it would have that I mean I would have thought what would have been more sexualized was if we're speaking about their breasts as opposed to speaking about their thighs um but I mean for some reason that's the the angle that most people have taken I disagree with that strongly but most people today will argue in defense of that reasoning and I think it's nonsensical I also think it's hypocritical that how can you defend

that on one hand and then argue that women need to cover their faces and do this and do that and because this is f i mean what kind of nonsense is that I mean in all honesty if a guy is interested in a woman for outright just simple instinctual gratification uh sexual gratification then it doesn't matter if she's a slave or a free woman or whatever that doesn't make a difference right so to say well ah you know you know what I was going to do something Haram now but then I just

realized ah you're a slave so you know it doesn't quite have that kicking anymore so I don't think that's how men or males function I don't think that's how they function and I definitely don't think that's how they functioned historically so um although today this has become a bit more of a theoretical debate but I agree with you that it shows the double standards that are present then in religious discourse and this is why I have always been against institutionalization the institutionalization of things including the institutionalization of religion because I believe obviously like all

religions Islam too along the centuries has been institutionalized it it did become along the way about Empire about control about things like and you see that in the fat even this fatwa of saying slave women are not allowed to do cover the thing was just an attempt to control and distinguish between slaves and and it was about maintaining control institutionalization whenever uh takes a veneer of religion it never has in it right Allah says in the

Quran that these Kings these rulers when they enter a place they will only spread corruption there you know and that is how they certainly do that is exactly what they do so when religion when you have religion institutionalization enters religion and takes control there is only facade and even if it has a religious veneer to it I mean it's not um I don't like it anyway I've never and this is and these things show the double standards that we have uh if we're going to Pro defend this statement on one hand and then on the other hand we're going

to say well women need to be all covered up and this can't be revealing and that can't be revealing and you see because then there's some serious double standards going on on one hand you're arguing and your books are defending um making women naked almost or saying they can be naked saying they can be like this saying they can and on the other hand you're trying to embody um things like this High Ground moral High Ground of modesty and it doesn't fit it just does not fit so on one hand it's okay this is why I say I said to some of these people you know I said oh

you defending your books on one hand it's okay to rape uh slave women it's okay to do this it's okay to do that and on the other hand you have this puritanic Puritan High Ground in saying all some of these things you know I've one must be above certain you know you you act so puritanic and so oh desires and control desires and do this and do that but tell me you could have had that same approach with these rulings and yet with those rulings that's not what you say and that's not what you defend and this isn't even

about um you know whether this is practical today because people would say yeah well that's theoretical okay it is to a large extent although Nut Cases like Isis are trying to implement it but then even if it is theoretical it's what you believe so you believe it's okay to be like that you believe that's okay for people and remember these slaves a lot of them that were slaves were not just um they they were also people just that were just kidnapped and sold as slaves they weren't just uh you know people think oh this is like they were from all over the world

and and if you read history uh slaves weren't just always people that were taken from war that that were your kind of prisoners of War they were people who were kidnapped so if you read sahkari for example some of the companions uh uh when they were out they were going somewhere they got they got kidnapped and sold off as slaves and you'll get this that this was always going on you know people if they saw a soft target a small Caravan going they looted the car van and they would just take some of the people and sell them off in a market of slaves and that's it a person's welcome to the life of

slavery so it wasn't really a um so what I'm trying to say is all of a sudden now right it's okay to do all these things and it's okay that you don't need to cover or you don't need to do this so what I'm what I'm trying to say is look certain parts certain narratives need to be Revisited okay in in Islam okay they need to be kind of Revisited we need to kind of explore and understand that um it's just because certain people allowed them in the books in their time doesn't mean they're

necessarily accurate positions in Islam right whatam what can you do if one suffers from a skin disease and doing woodoo hurts that right almost had a catastrophe right here

okay take all right so this one's not as bad as the other one who's an absolute nightmare G then all right so this one's the one who I found out would popped in and said hi everyone no tell [Music]

my say no Noam okay go off you go right right so if you have a skin condition you can just do to your M that's absolutely fine okay right um and I did highlight in last week's session that tum is a lot more um acceptable by some schools than it is by others like the Maliki maab is a lot more is a is a lot

more comfortable using tmom in many things can you explain the Hadith about um will be divided into 73 sects okay right the thing is you know this Hadith some people first of all did not consider this authentic at all uh including people like uham who said that this Hadith was um I believe he said was fabricated and people like uh who considered it very weak thing is I'm not sure if I

personally buy into this Hadith um if I do it is simply at the level that the prophet sallallah alaihi wasallam was simply trying to explain to people that look that the way the Jews and Christians went off ruining the religion Muslims will do the same so this was simply so if it is authentic my understanding of it is that it's just figurative okay it's not that the prophet was really counting like oh 70

there'll be 71 be 72 like that that you see the Arabs use the term sem for many right and that that's common that people this is a known thing by the way I'm not just saying that this is well known that the Arabs used to uh used to do that so so the thing is that even in the Quran when it comes about um about that uh do not seek forgiveness for them for the Hypocrites and even if you did this 70 times Allah will not forgive

them 70 here didn't mean that oh if you do it just sem and then stop but sem is used by Arabs commonly to mean the way we say in English like we have set numbers okay we like we'll say 100 or like people say a million you I've done this hundreds and millions of times the these are words that people resort to numbers they resort to so so in in every language that exists so in English as well like people will often say like two so for example Give Me 2 seconds or they say Give Me 2 minutes like they you know

they don't us I'm I'm just giving they won't usually say hey give me 4 seconds that I mean somebody might say that but that's not the common and kind of phrase people just say just give me two hold on for two seconds will you so two has become a common thing that is used so the Arabic language is no different it's the same kind of thing right so in my understanding that's not what it meant about um oh so the copies for example will be the group that go to Jenna and everybody else gets to go to hell I know some of them refer to thems

[Laughter] as it's going to be some disappointment then you know some people refer to themselves as we are the Saved [Laughter] sect mate you haven't even been saved from [Laughter] autism right so the thing is uh I think look I tell you if you want to understand if you want to understand

what why that isn't true you see today we think religion is Faith is Creed faith is not Creed okay Creed is an a product that has been invented by Muslims to maybe to help Muslim part of it was to help Muslims part of it may have been institutionalization of the religion so they kind of numbered out what you ought to believe so you are only a Muslim if you believe in these 66 things or these 67 things or these 105 things or now you are only a Muslim obviously the prophet never taught Islam like that neither did his companions

neither did their students neither did their student this emerges later true I accept that it is partially to help Muslims know what it is that they do believe as opposed to they don't and part of it was institutionalization to control people and regulate them and not allow free thought because if you now start to think differently you are out of this box and therefore you will be condemned so is this how the companions or how the fitra of Islam is well it isn't because when you look at the prophet sallallah alaihi wasallam saying in a Hadith and I'd like to share this Hadith with you

it's a very popular Hadith uh brought by Imam noi in his 40 Hadith and in several other books of Hadith that the prophet said that there was a person and he gives the example of this uh of this guy who's who gathers his children and he says that look I'm he's on his deathbed and he says that look I spent all my life violating the Commandments of Allah and I don't think Allah is going to be pleased with me so after I die I'd like you to cremate me and scatter my ashes

in different parts different regions so basically I don't want an afterlife all right so if you bury me then Allah will resurrect me so I want you to do it this way and in the Hadith the prophet says Allah then commanded these ashes and obviously they formed him in the afterlife so that's not going on here people can't see it but in the other dimension he kind of comes together in that Dimension Allah asks him that what made you do this and he says I was afraid of you and Allah says

well who a lot of questions here see my screen seems to have uh um um right so the thing is so he says I was afraid of you and Allah says well in that case enter paradise and that you are forgiven now I want us to reflect and analyze what's actually happened here what was the AA of this person his AA was that when he was plotting this this

scheme that Allah wasn't all knowledgeable because obviously Allah do know what he's plotting his AA was that Allah wasn't watching him because obviously if he was watching him then this would be useless that Allah wasn't listening to him that Allah was incapable of collecting him together that you can escape an afterlife now look how twisted this person's AA is yet he gains entrance to Paradise so that is to show you that AA

really we seem to confuse this with Faith Faith is what Islam has told us Allah has told us to have AA is what kind of Scholars have come up with to kind of and it's multifaceted part of it has been to help Muslims part of it has been to control Muslims I mean I'm not saying it's bad but I'm saying part of it you need to recognize it for what it is its functionality right not it's not something Allah said in the Quran so this 73 sect thing is the same thing oh if you subscribe to creeday then you are

doomed if you subscribe to Creed b c d then you're still doomed but if you happen to subscribe to Creed e then you have been successful so the thing is uh now now so that's that's not Islam okay that's not Islam that's wishful thinking really okay now Aisha

Rashid Aisha is so adamant on this question of hijab and covering the H right the thing is you see look do you must you just want me to be have you not seen the reputations that come out against me I mean uh have you not seen that I mean are you not aware of my haters I mean seriously must you ask is covering the hair wearing the hij stroke what is it godamn it I mean why do you hate me that [Music]

much please h I'm right don't I mean what let me be let me be because people I've got enough haters as it is and right so the general position as I have explained the general position according to is that hijab is f when I say by hijab your question covering the here is is f that's the general position

and there is a minority difference of opinion that I felt that hijab was not F maybe it was what perfected uh the the kind of covering if you like so I know mentions that in his but he doesn't highlight who he's speaking about I did say I felt that was a Smoking Gun my research and I explained that in a previous video you can see my kind of research into that uh today people uh there are a few Scholars today um

um ja ramidi and there about I think there was an article I read at about five Scholars or so who have said it is not uh that they feel it's just you know the main thing is Modesty uh that's the kind of The Fringe minority view you have the majority view is that it is uh an obligation uh right now I'll just say that and that's fine I will say that look if you can if you uh if you can do hijab it it's you know it's it's awesome Allah subhana tala will obviously reward

you for that if you can't you can't you know I mean it's not uh nobody's here to judge you I I definitely am not that person that can judge you so and neither is anybody else if they claim to be in a position to judge you they're just lying so that's not true so I hope that's given some response okay I don't think seriously it's you know majority of the Muslim world the outright majority of the Muslim world right so all Muslims that we that this applies to today possibly women and over let's say a certain age

now I would say as far as the actual hijab is concerned that really only a minority Muslims worldwide actually perform it the way it's like that I mean they I think most Muslim in most in the Muslim World perhaps most Muslim women do observe some kind of modesty uh and so they'll cover up and they'll do things so if it's in the Indo Pac World they'll have a kind of you know dup and they'll cover it over here or sometimes cover their head with it but it won't be the perfect kind of hijab uh that's probably most of the

world today most of and then there are considerable number of PE women that are wearing it as well and that's their struggle and it's you know immensely rewardable but I just don't feel we're here in a position to really pick on women or to kind of say uh you know why are you not wearing hijab why are you and I completely abhor that um you know this example of the lollipop and I love I could not stop laughing at that joke of uh you know it said the greatest plot twist in muslamic history where you had this lollipop in a

rapper and the ant ants were inside but I think it's ridiculous doing this kind of comparison of saying oh if you oh if you had a site and would you want the suite to be on the floor with ants on it or would you want the sweet to being a rapper which one would you eat I mean what kind of a dumb analogy is that I mean women not wearing hijab are not like I mean what what's that supposed what is that supposed to

mean what she's got like men all over her licking her up or what what is that supposed to mean like what just because a woman doesn't have hijab how does she become like this lollipop that's on the floor with dirt and and ants all over it and would you want to put that in your mouth of course you I mean that's a dumb question that's like saying oh would you want to eat food before you've eaten it when it's on the plate or once you've finished with it and it's in the toilet what kind of a dumb example is that I mean so look if it works for

somebody said it works for simpletons well I'm sorry they need to upgrade their intellectual standards okay being Muslim ought to have a certain amount of intelligence that comes with it okay I'm not saying it doesn't work for some people but then this is how you get thick people thinking you know I know like how why do you think people can rally the cries why why do you think racism works why do you think fascism works why do you think there's attacks against immigr these things are working because people are just acting like sheep they're not thinking right so I know it works that works as well obviously all these things

work because some people are very basic minded and they're just thick and they'll just buy to anything but that's not a justification for the for the process it doesn't add any validation to it it just means some people are stupid right okay so right just a few quick question in Pakistan I've heard M saying Dua forgive us for the S of Muhammad sahu alaihi wasallam is that allow okay this means uh doing kind of like saying go through for the sake of for the sake of it's allowed but you don't need to do that

you can just go you can just speak to Allah subhana tala without doing that kind of thing uh I wouldn't I mean I would say it's allowed I wouldn't necessarily tell people people to do it but if they were doing it I wouldn't condemn them either but I think this ties into my previous uh discussion on why despite it being rational why most Muslims and most mon monotheists actually struggle with monotheism because in a weird way we are actually as human beings we've become more Pol polytheist than we are

monotheist and monotheism makes sense like having one God but in the real world to most people it doesn't make sense like it doesn't give them practical value because they feel that God is too detached the concept of one God is too detached for the common man so they feel that why would that one God really care about us so even this isn't is is a demonstration of that so you're thinking well why would god really care about me I know but he'll care about his Prophet so I'll do so it comes back to really trying to come to terms with

monotheism um I feel that look you know we should understand Allah says in the Quran that's a command that call me I will answer that's a promise Allah says when your when my servant or slave asks about me let them know I am in indeed close so I would say look we can speak to Allah direct this analogy that the Christians used to give that oh we're we're not worthy we're not worthy we're too sinful you have to go through a beloved uh this is how the the Christian

hierarchy kind of works um I don't think Islam works like that that's not how the prophet taught the compan prophet never used to say to the sahaba by the way you're too sinful you have to go through me uh but doing this is is not forbidden it's not forbidden I mean you can do that there but I wouldn't say that that should be your default way of praying [Music] um right some people have Haram stuff on their phone like porn and things they also have Quran apps what do you say to that what do I say to that what are they

doing having Quran on their phone the thing is look having a Quran app on the phone is not the same as having a Quran okay so uh what I ought to say to that is nutty [Laughter] nuty right right so the thing is is that part of the the guilt so when they switch out of one they go now let me read some Quran to cleanse

myself people stop it so the thing is the Quran app is not the Quran so it doesn't mean that um like you need woodoo to touch it or woodoo to carry it it's a digital kind of code which opens up as the Quran but isn't actually the Quran so it's not like like if I had the Quran in a bag that's the actual Quran if I had the Quran on this phone it's not the actual Quran on my phone okay so um I don't think that you know is something that is necess I mean it may

be a wrong in itself but I don't think it's a sacrilege per se okay yep so right is the aan needed when praying at home or is the enough the aan is said if you are calling somebody to prayer if you're not calling anybody to pray then the school of Madina says there's no need to read the aan the is sufficient all right okay let me just see what's this ah right my phone battery may be dying people but let's see what are the

best ways of getting rid of stress please cheer up our grumpy moods Imam Hassan those of you not following Imam Hassan follow him Imam Hassan Legend of glester man working at grassroot leveled people there's another Imam come on right there not Imam but our the glaswegian all right it's another person to follow so two people inallah I do agree that I think a lot of people are grumpy and are kind of um and I'll tell you what's more I I think that may just be a personality

temperament uh if it isn't then it's very unfortunate and if it is it's still kind of sad but I guess I mean it could be worse it could be us but I mean the thing is I'll tell you when it I'll tell you no what I was going to say was it is uh what is problematic is uh when people justify the grumpiness the morbidity through by by religion so they say oh you shouldn't laugh Allah doesn't want you to

laugh I mean that is the and and and and you know something else as well a lot of Muslims unfortunately especially from the Indo Pac World seem to believe in a lot of superstitions and they believe that if you love off you will cry that they feel that the that that your temperament will have or the universe will balance the books it has a way of balancing the books out so if you laugh then you will have to cry like something bad will happen I don't mean cry as in like hahaa I'm laughing so

much I start crying but they mean something bad is going to happen to you is going to make you cry now m [Laughter] yeah right I tell you what that must have been one hell of a joke whoever started that one but but people actually believe that kind of stuff and I think that's borderline shik okay it's like borderline kind of shik almost believing in this kind of stuff in this kind of karma I don't believe in karma we should not believe in karma as Muslims if I do something

bad that's between me and Allah it's not that something bad will happen to me I mean there's some things which have natural consequences I understand obviously you know you could like if somebody broke into a place and the person caught them and beat them up and you could say well you did something bad and obviously I don't mean like that I mean un unconnected events so like somebody says you know as a child I stole this or as this person stole this now his council tax went up or his mortgage repayments kind of

increased so I think this this this is totally pathetic and we don't believe in karma karma is not from Islam although what's interesting is Islamic sources can be manipulated to show karma karma is actually a Hindu belief okay and Buddhist I suppose but Hindu and you know this what goes around comes around all this kind of stuff it's not Islamic at all but I do believe this and and people tie into this like being lot laughing all the

time and you see the weird thing is people associate laughing all the time with either you're you you're like mental which okay it's difficult for me me to argue against not being mental but the thing is look they they say you're either mental a look at him he he's dumb or like he has no sense about him because he's always laughing I'd say trust me that world is much better than the world you're living in right you'd rather uh be always laughing I think

looks these moments we have in life we should immerse ourselves during them in laughter okay I'm telling you like what in a Hadith it mentions that the that Allah laughs now I don't believe Allah physically laughes unlike some people who believe that anthropomorphically but I believe that is to show us that Allah appreciates and likes a good solid sense of humor Jahan G wasan

wasan all right yes please block Samira why who what's is there something Samira Khan if you please stop uh constantly having it just personal dialogues on this otherwise you will be blocked right let's move on to the next question somebody said by the way that people may be taking some of my statements out of context and using them look if people want to take my things out of context and use them it does not bother me okay

so all right well there seems to be a lot of uh there you go people I've blocked Samira there was such a public vote to block Samira I don't know why but there you go who says I'm not Democrat ratic huh right so oh damn did I just argue against my own you know my reputation of democratic truths right so the thing is how do you explain the expansion of the Islamic empire after the prophet Sall alhi wasallam when Wars are actually just to

defend yourself and not to attack and did the sahaba take the Hadith fight them till they say is a justification I always learned that this Hadith meant mentions a complete different context um right okay you see Unice I think that's an interesting question in Islam is only defensive military strategies allowed are I'm not sure that it's only in my interpret in my understanding this is my understanding that

Islam it it kind of Works in a common sense uh kind of U Paradigm so Wars are not necessarily either they're not exclusively defensive or exclusively offensive they will more so definitely obviously perhaps throughout the play of events be more defensive than offensive but it doesn't rule out either I think it kind of it just B bases it on welfare so I think at times Muslims have

preemptively uh declared Wars just as countries do I don't think this is uh kind of so un like so irrational because politics understands this that just the way countries have uh you know an offensive strategy if required and they but they won't generally just declare war but they may occasionally have a preemptive kind of military offensive that takes place um in this in in the same way Muslims did the same historically I don't see how

that was you know so different to what's going on in the world today I don't see I think if when they felt the welfare was that strong uh they did resort to a military preemptive military offensive uh to do that I don't think Muslim Wars in general I think some may have been but if we're going to be fair but I don't think in general that they were barbaric I think Muslims did um and that's my understanding I think generally speaking they kind of bound themselves to a very reasonably because

you got to look at their own time what's going on around them in the world uh I think that Muslims did bind themselves to a very good ethic ethical standard okay a standard of kind of War ethics military ethics especially which would have matched the kind of Ethics we have similar to today but they would have been on this you know a thousand years ago so I think it was outstanding and remarkable for their era and things like that they were way ahead of their time uh I don't think all wars I think they you know it's unquestionable that there would have been some that were Muslims

just like other people they were people they must have committed atrocities and stuff like that but I think in general averagely generally when you kind of like averaging it out and generally speaking I feel that the Muslims like our history isn't kind of um it isn't generally especially over the 1200 years Etc it isn't uh barbaric in its kind of uh conquests and stuff like that people might say that's biased as a Muslim I accept that you know naturally there will be some biases obviously as a Muslim when you're

reading into Muslim history but that's what I truly do feel as well okay there was a question are we allowed to join the British army uh I feel that yes we are there's nothing wrong with joining the British army uh I heard a talk by a scholar say saying that by joining the Army you become an atheist I I don't know where how that follows at all it doesn't make any sense to me

um right okay there's an interesting question here about how what advice would you give to somebody who has lost his Iman he's lost hope has developed an apathy I'm you see I I'm not sure what they would have lost the Hope over um to what that means okay when you say they've lost hope you mean hope in life hope in a particular thing hope in a career hope in marriage hope in I don't know or have they lost hope in God

or they've lost hope in religion or they've lost hoping I'm not sure because there could be so many permutations to that question depending on what they've lost hope but apathy you know where people start to become disinterested in religion they become indifferent to it you see what I would say is look first of all don't kind of allow yourself to become crushed by a sense of guilt okay don't do that um hope in general regards spread across right so I think look Allah is

there for everybody you know he's there for the the extremely Pious person he's there for the negligent person he therefore Allah says so Allah there is no creature on earth except Allah is sustaining it and we are above just simple creatures at the end of the day don't think sometimes your connection sometimes pondering just over mortality pondering over this life pondering over the meaning in itself is

an okay these things in themselves pondering over ultimate kind of questions um just sometimes just being grateful in your heart thinking you know wow like Allah has given me so much that is an like these things connect us to God giving a charity bringing a smile to somebody's face um all right so the thing is these things are a connection with Allah making Dua do not feel that you are only

a good Muslim if you're attending the Masjid that's not necessarily true you know you just because you're not praying five times in a mid just try to work on your prayer sustain in your prayer if you're not praying five times a day stop praying five times a day even if you have to pray all five prayers together at once before you go to sleep then just do that just pray the far only before you go to sleep soon time will come that you'll start you know praying maybe the one the morning one when you wake up and then the afternoon one in the afternoon and before you know it you will be praying the Salah Allah

says like hold on to the Rope of Allah that is the Rope of Allah the prophet said in a if you want to know the true kind of nectar the inner the the kind of Pulp of of worship he said that is Dua because when you're making Dua it's real you see everything else is just a ritual see when I'm praying I'm just going oh okay I'm not making those

faces but you know you just thinking about something oh that was a good movie boy I wonder what's going to happen in the next season it look this is everybody no point look let's not act Pious it's everybody right so the thing is but when you're making Dua it got real that's when it gets real because at Dua time it's not a ritual because now you're in

need you see that's that's when you really test somebody that's what says he says that by this izing as those in needy that's when we see what the generous are truly about okay because when you're in need that's when you are so now you're real you're kind of asking Allah for this for that

so make Dua that's what I would say and just cheer up about things sometimes being positive is enough cuz when you're positive you're you're happy and happiness brings more happiness and then you you you be you start to want to be grateful for that happiness you start thinking you know what I'm loving this thinking yeah this is awesome and then you're thinking all praise be to Allah you know he he's he you know you're saying that

he he he gave me all this so the point is that so sometimes just try being a bit more happy that's all okay let's move on to there was a question there about that I saw go past I didn't fully get that did I consider the F to be legitimate do you mean the of the prophet wasallam and the sah is that what you mean because I do I do consider them to be legitimate yes okay if that's your question then of course I do um right I I've asked the same question you

didn't answer last week um I had a still birth just wanted to know do you have a janaza for a still birth I never really got a clear answer right okay uh and also I'm learning a lot from your Q&A wellan the thing is a still birth there is a difference of opinion amongst the scholars according to the school of Medina that a child has to be born alive and the and by alive they say that he he cries or she cries that the the baby cries and that is the sign

of life because some just simple movements um right he should act in Batman as the Joker okay thank you r r R the thing is now uh the the point is that uh you see this is such a serious question and you got me laugh so I apologize Salma if that came across in any way insensitive uh you see I get distracted

very easily as you can see but the thing is that according to the Maliki life is not just movement move M because muscles can just uh muscles can kind of be triggered through spasms being released and stuff like this uh it doesn't mean somebody's alive this is why you get corpse having movements so those of you I mean sometimes dead bodies can move okay it doesn't mean they're alive and the have spoken about this they call

this so you have life which is established life and which they call borrowed life and it's interesting term but it's it's it's artificial life it's not real life so that does not uh necessitate a janaza so the Maliki M would say that if they cry um according to that's the general understanding I believe in similar terms with the Hani maab as well except the hanafi maab would say in my understanding if I recall correctly that as long as you could prove the child was born alive then that's enough for a janaza even if he didn't cry uh the helles are the ones

that say that uh even if the child was just born uh unfortunately if it was a still birth or even if there was an abortion or a miscarriage Beyond 4 months they allow a kind of uh a burial and a janaza and stuff like this but the other mhbs don't generally say um say that and it's definitely not a janaza uh for like a miscarriage and they would consider this right at the end of although it's an actual birth but it's a still birth have you ever watched Ahmed that debates what do you think I know you're not fond of pampering I love

ahmeda okay I totally love ahmeda I watched many of his debates in my teens um when I had started uh when I was about 17 16 17 when I started to um take the dean a bit seriously uh I watched a lot of Ahmed that videos I think he was an amazing person may Allah have mercy on him and Grant him the best of the I think he served an incredible function and purpose for his time I don't think that time I think that time has now

passed so we today today Christianity is not the threat you know I get people I don't know about in America in the in the Deep South but in the UK and Europe Christianity is outdated now so when people start saying oh you know I'm going to set up a debate between a Christian and a Muslim this is so out of date Christianity is not a threat to Islam anymore right so so the point is that today things like uh like apathy to religion are actually questioning inconsistencies

within religion this is what's become more at the Forefront atheism agnosticism these things are the threat today to religion it's not institutionalization of religion not Christianity that but in his time it was and I think he did an incredible job and I have nothing but love immense love for for for him mallah and he had a great sense of humor in some of his videos very aggressive an aggressive Style go say so the things uh is getting a

mortgage Haram I don't believe getting a mortgage is Haram I have answered that in much detail in a previous uh Q&A I don't want to go through all of that again I don't believe that the RBA of jilah that has been made Haram previously uh I applies to mortgages I believe the riba of jahia is the closest kind of parable we have the closest kind of Paradigm we have to to it is like a loan Shar uh a kind of like a Backstreet loan Shar not Banks and things like this so I don't think it's the same thing and I do believe mortgages are permissible I've

given an in-depth understanding you can watch that there uh this obviously won't do justice but I do explain that nobody has consistency on riba nobody and there's a lot of kind of uh holes in everybody's office arguments and despite what they'd liked you to believe that the arguments are clear they're not and I begin with the verse of the Quran to show that beginning with the verse that the in the first was

but either or that Allah made all of this but when it came to it's not and it's not it's talking about the r that they are aware of in their mind and so

uh aim mm says mortgages are Halal knocking one out is halal what next I I didn't really think that you would associate the two I never really thought about mortgages in that light but you nuty nuty well whatever floats your boat mate whatever floats your boat so the thing is right so in the all right so what is your opinion on missing Salah more than three times based on a Hadith that is always quoted

especially in living in the west with work etc you see first of all if you work uh I don't believe that you have to attend jum if you can't attend jum you do not it is not an obligation in that sense if you can make it alhamdulillah if you can't you can't that's fine uh you can just pray uh so you don't need to kind of sacrifice your job to go pray jum okay in my understanding I am kind of more um I don't know more un what's the what's sympathetic to the The View that jum was

initially constructed or brought about for a Muslim society that lives as a Muslim society and it had a political purpose to it I am definitely inclined to that understanding uh I do feel that it was multifaceted so it had the ritual side to it the worship element it had a social element it brings people together but it had a political strand as well which can which is undeniable so for example um historically right throughout Muslim history right throughout Muslim history

you um you couldn't just make a MK for J okay I just want you to be aware of that you couldn't say you know like if somebody said like let's say here's the whoever made a house for Allah or a Masid for Allah Allah made a house for him in Jenna so I read this Hadith you read this Hadith uh m h tech people newly married all right so the thing is right so let's say uh I'll have to pick I'll pick on Ma right so let's say ma

reads that Hadith and says I know I want to build uh a Masid so he says all right great you can build a Masid that's awesome you can build a Masid nobody's going to stop you from building a Masid but you say I'm going to build a Masid which is going to have Juma in it mhm you're being naughty because you will have people the governor who will personally pay you a little visit with his henchmen and they would literally uh they would knock that building down or they would you would

not allow ever in Islamic history ever to build a mosque that could hold jum unless it was built by the by the governance and by the state or authorized and sanctioned by the state and it had to be on a register they you could never lead a jum ever by just saying hey hey I know let's lead Juma today hey you would actually be imprisoned beaten up for that I mean you would actually uh pick any of the greatest imams that come to your name

that whose names come to your mind IM Malik IM Abu hanif IM sh IM Ahmed Imam bukari Imam Muslim pick some of the greatest names you can think of none of them hardly probably ever led a Juma in their entire lifetimes ever none of them led a Juma IM Malik was theim of Medina did he ever lead jum no he never even used to lead the Salah in Medina he never used to lead the Salah IM abif you think he lead Juma hell no he didn't lead

jum jum was never the scholars never LED jum like that Juma had a very political function to it it was only a person who was usually was the governor so it was like today uh you know if it was a Muslim country you'd get whoever is the governor of that place would come and Lead jum and give the if you tried to sit there and do it you that was considered that was tantamount to borderline treason that's what it that's how serious that would have been seen that if you try to climb the mber and Lead Juma it would be seen

as this is a covert katar movement that you are trying to take over and you would have been thoroughly punished and they would have made an example out of you and this is throughout our entire Islamic history so yeah so you'd have somebody like Noah Sharif today you know I watch this uh this uh clip that they took the the Bollywood movie Rise and Shad Khan and they and they put the clips there so it's naah Sharif and Imran Khan

oh it was hilarious they've got their faces and everything at all right so the thing anyway there was uh why is riba Haram I believe riba is Haram because of the kind of extortion uh that it led to and it wasn't just extortion it was a kind of it was the tyranny of extortion that it had it was and and I'll tell you something here people that look histo even now you know when you look at things

like suicides yeah um there a friend of ours I don't he should be live Momo there was a friend of his who in in Birmingham had killed himself recently and we're kind of discussing this I mean I don't think he was Muslim but we're just talking about whoa like the the whole thing about suicide and everything um abuad just just sorry I'll come back to this said yeah but in the first three generations who led the jum the first three generations what do you mean who led the jum in the first three generations who do you think IM Malik

wasn't part of those Generations IM Malik is the he's from the students of the students of the sahaba so yes and Imam Malik did not lead the jum neither did anybody who was not the governor ever lead jum ever so that does not does not apply I don't mean like now today because today everything's different but I mean throughout Islamic history so even in let's say in in Omar's time he would lead it because he is the ruler and and other Governors would lead it you wouldn't get just just because

you're Pious you wouldn't get to lead jum or just because you're Imam bukari you've mastered all the Hadith you couldn't lead jum it was this it would have been a Ser I don't think people understand how serious of a violation it would have been it would have been considered really dangerous like you'd be crazy to do it it'd be as tantamount as to like running up to Buckingham Palace holding a gun it would be like that stupid that you would will be in serious trouble and there's no so the anyway so this thing uh about suicide coming back to that uh so we

were talking about this and it's interesting that you see people one of the key reasons why people commit Su and this has got I'm not saying this was not the reason why that person committed it necessarily I don't know what his reasons were but that just got us talking about the topic right you would think if your life was for example if your life was really like let's say you were getting beaten up or tortured you would think that or if a person was in a war zone that they would be prepared to kill themselves but ironically the survival Instinct would kick in and you would actually want to survive hence most people in war zones

do not kill themselves they actually survive but one of the things that does actually kill people leads them to suicide is debt financial debt and it's actually one of the key kind of things I mean there's other factors as well I'm not saying people haven't killed themselves over other reasons but this is actually something that you are actually much more likely to commit suicide over rather than being in a war zone but you would imagine that maybe the person in the war zone who's lost everything would probably be more

likely but he's actually not statistically speaking now now but you see so the thing is that this riba is that's what it would do it would make people want to just just be dead and so somebody could ask well what about a mortgage why is a mortgage different well a mortgage is massively different because there's so many safety nets okay when you operate you operate within a a greater framework a legal frame workor so for example when you guys go

when when I go to my local shop here and I buy something there's the conditions that me and the shopkeeper have there and then so for example the shopkeeper may say oh I want you to check your products before you leave so for example imagine the shopkeeper says you're not entitled to a refund but we are actually buying and selling within a greater framework which allows for refunds if my rights have been compromised under the consumer kind of act so although people wouldn't make a big deal of small things like they

wouldn't really take it to court and stuff but meaning that we still so one is your immediate transaction but there's a greater level of kind of there's a framework within which you're operating which both of you are still Bound by even if you know it or don't know it so when you're with a bank it's the same thing there are great there is a greater framework so for example they could not you wouldn't be destroyed in the in the way at all there's a lot of safety networks in fact banks are under obligation to kind of allow concessionary kind of um parameters

where people are struggling financially which normal rent paying landlords are not so so for example if I was struggling let's say if if I was struggling with my with my rent and I was struggling with my mortgage uh the bank would actually have an obligation to work with me whereas the landlord wouldn't the landlord could have have me evicted in two months whereas the bank you're actually safer because if the bank tried to take me to court the courts would just rule that they take a a concessionary payment

until I can afford the other payments and most likely the banks wouldn't Chuck you out anyway within a few months I mean you could go up to 6 months to a year on a concessionary payment scheme I mean you'd have to pay things back but you would that you wouldn't have that safety with a private uh land lord for example so secondly if you totally can't pay and let's say you you know the bank said okay I'm going to you know we're going to there's going to be a foreclosure they're going to take the property I mean you could decree declare bankruptcy it's not actually you know I mean I mean I'm not here trying to offer you guys advice but I'm trying to tell

you that there are safety nets right you are not actually it's not like a private imagine there was a person now who said like a street um uh what is it loone shark who you borrowed £500 from and for £500 he wants now5 or he wants £1,000 pounds from you like imagine that now you're so desperate that you borrow it now he comes around threatens you threatens your family bullies you intimidates you uh Shadows you uh starts snatching your things starts compounding adding the

evidence stuff like this I mean sorry adding the interest stuff like that so you can imagine that's what was going on in rib Jah when Allah declared war on those people it it was because they were these people wish they were dead that's why okay so right right recent documentary about the Halala marriage thank you abuali for uh bringing this up is organizing a Halala marriage so the wife can go back to her ex-husband legit as it seems like prostitution okay thank you for bringing

this up because I wanted to answer this and i' forgot and all right right so the thing is Abid had just said private landlords are yeah because it's a commercial Market corporate market and and the state Works to Pro um protect the rights of businesses right so it promotes businesses over uh and it protects their right so whereas a bank although it's a business but it's catering to the masses and that's seen as a kind of uh a commercial interaction so it's different

anyway coming back to to this right as it's commonly known in U or as they call it Arabic can also mean analysis right so so just whoa he's up there if somebody says guys I just want to perform a little with you and you're like whoa or you turn up in the bathrobe and the other person's got all their books open so so in Arabic can mean analysis okay so just to kind of clarify that now the thing is

well what this means is making something Halal Allah says in the Quran about that that you know is twice and so on and so forth but then Allah says that you know you can do this and then you can do this and then then if he divorced her for a final

time then she is uh not Halal for him unless a future marriage of hers was to go to ruins okay now this is really interesting because right so what happens now is let me tell you what's happening now tell you the rulings then come back to this and I think we might have to just kind of wrap up with this really because uh right I can see a lot of questions coming but this really demands some attention okay so what's happening right now what's happening is people are

giving three tcks so guys are getting angry right so they like why is the tea cold woman T and then they like oh my god what have I done I gave you talak three times right so now what do we do so this is what's actually happening is and I hope it's not happening but it is in some places they're saying well the only way I can get married to you now uh is because

Allah says if he divorced for the three times because the majority of the schools the majority of the MBS have all the majority of the MBS have believed that three tals given in one go count as three right so the thing is they count as three talak so therefore it's brought you straight up to speed with this final verse saying and if he divorces are after that then she's not for him so he's like uhoh now I'm stuck so they say well Allah says unless another marriage of

hers broke down so let's engineer this marriage so and according to the Hadith as well it has to be a proper marriage so meaning and a proper marriage was very clear that what do you get married for most people one of the fundamental things is intimacy sexual intercourse so they must be sex sexual intercourse okay so so what some people unfortunately have been doing not they've been saying okay we can arrange uh a to take place so you bring your wife

here so she comes along we read a quick nikah right kabil to I accept do you accept you accept you accept to right and uh so what they do is uh they now go for they say Okay shall we now um should we spend some time alone you know get to know each other in this little time that we have so they now go off wherever it is

and as you can imagine Nutty Nutty stuff they have to they have to obviously it's all serious of course we must now consummate the marriage woman follow after me okay now one must dis robe so the thing is look so this is so what happens is what you're aware of they go they have sexual intercourse then this new

husband he then divorces her and says okay I Now Pronounce divorce t t she says oh well thank you thank you Pati for this on my part-time PA now I'm going to go back to my first they waiting for me outside so the other husband will probably now be there or she will now go home and they will now redo a new nikah and uh obviously they'll have to wait for the the three months or whatever and then

things are just normal except like hell will they be normal I mean how could how could that be normal anyway I mean I I don't know I mean because it's so but anyway so this is what what uh this is what happens with this Halala thing so the MBS have said three talak generally speaking three all have had some differences on this by the way that three tals are three uh if it's happened and there's been a minority position in all schools of law saying that look no

actually the if there were in one context they only count as one but anyway as a result of this ruling this is what's happened and now these women are sleeping with other men obviously then going back to their husband and as you can imagine it's not going to be very and most of these guys you have to remember are going to be incredibly insecure anyway so they're going to be like H so so it's going to be like are you still thinking about him H God but can can you imagine the job of

that guy though imagine he's a professional like like I'm a professional he's like excuse me I take pride in my work right so it's like a it's like excuse me can you can you make an appointment online please because you know I I only do things professionally right so can you imagine what his job must be like he's like boy had a stressful week at work can you imagine imagine his family don't know what he

does so he has to come home and go it's been a crazy day at work so the thing is anyway right now the point is and by the way and so some places I remember hearing that some places they say oh they're like oh can it be like this really like a really weak man can it be like a really weak kind of like a oh like you know you look at really skinny and

and or can it be like an old old kind of frail man because you know don't want like some strong guy imagine like a really mindly man comes out like he's like it's like holding a cigar it's like you're all right bro boy things would be incredibly awkward after that so so

the but the point is so I've actually heard where they've said oh can it be like a you know they've wanted uh like really weak like a weak frail man or like just borderline you know like guys in their late teens or that are still not matured properly they want something like but anyway so what is the ruling on all of this the ruling on this are strangely enough most the mabs have actually considered this if engineered to be Haram the Hani maab did say that you see now this is the thing the hanafi maab had some

leeway in saying that well if the husband wasn't in on it so if if if if a friend friend hello friend if a friend did this set this up with the wife the ex-wife just to help that husband get back together with his wife then it's actually a good thing so they actually say this that but they say if he did it without plotting it with the husband so if he did you know if I you know if I was just feeling

friendly you know that hey friend are you in need of a friend so I see so I see you've divorced your wife I see you're quite upset well I want you to know I'm a friend so what I'm going to be doing is uh I'm going to be contacting you wife so the thing is that so so in the Hani M they have this ruling that if the husband did this sorry if the the new husband the friend husband right did

this to to help his friend or help this person without plotting without the husband the first husband being in on it on not engineering it with them then it could actually be a rewardable act rewardable act can understand but religiously rewardable I'm struggling with okay so so the thing is uh now you'll be surprised see Hamza saying what kind of men would allow Halala but you'll be surprised because this is where religion gets twisted you see because they want you see they've

got kids they're too embarrassed to divorce and they can't live with each other because they've been taught through so much guilt that this is Haram three TS three TS z z you're going to get this is everything is impure you're going to be like this you're going to be like so because they tell them all this talk the scholars do they get petrified and they just think you know what just do it just like let do it so so the thing is okay now now that was the backdrop people now

I'm going to revive valuate all of this okay so with you now first of all I'm going to say that in line with most the MBS that this is this what goes on is I I was going to say bang out of order is just utterly out of order right so the thing is this is

unacceptable slick Mo here ing all of this says bro why have you got a chain on slick there's a man with his priorities in place he's hearing of All This calamity all these issues he goes bro why have you got a chain on I like that guy already he knows he's got he's focused right so the thing is anyway

now right coming back to this I believe that this is utterly unacceptable it leads uh to obviously it leads to not only a ridiculous future for the couple for the intended couple not the Halala not the and the the wife momentary wife but the actual first husband it leads to a ridiculous future for them anyway it's a misery and a humiliation for the woman right but it also ridicules Islam right which is utterly

unacceptable so the thing is because when we're speaking on behalf of Islam we're speaking on behalf of Allah and his messenger and that's something that we don't have uh we don't have a right to do okay not in this kind of manner so I would say Not only would I say that we act upon this minority position which is that in three in any circum like if if any number of talak were given in one Gathering that they only constitute one Not only would I say that and that was the fatwa given

by some might you know there may be a minority but within all mhbs so within the Maliki M the recent legendary uh great mu and Grand mu of the Malik his fatwa was that 3 equal one uh that we can take this fatwa for T wherever necessary before historically Scholars within the Maliki M like ABD Salam many of the F of Cova Muslim Spain they all said that right that uh and so so I'm just giving you these opinions here first right the other Ms as well

from thei said look if there's a custom you can resort to it uh stuff like this and other mabs as well and other people have said this that's the first thing I'm and I'm going to say that no matter what the circumstance no matter what you must I feel we are under obligation to find a a a kind of reparation a and Salvage that ncah if the two if the couple have a strong resolve to salvage their relationship then the scholar is

Duty Bound in my understanding to find a way to make it happen and I believe that right uh that is what Allah has ordained upon the people of knowledge so if he gave three in one goal then you take that fwa if they both want to be together but you can ask them both if they both say no we definitely want to be together because people don't know about the rulings of Islam they don't know about the rulings of talak anymore they don't understand these things so we have to make ease for

them if they've given it on separate situations then find a different dispensation godamn it okay you find a different fatwa if they say I gave it on different things but one of the times she happened to be on a menual cycle then you take that hwa that says that on a menstrual cycle a is invalid and you apply that if they say well no it wasn't even that I did in a different time but I was angry then you take the fat of and you say well okay then based on that look if

the couple have a strong resolve to get back together you have a duty as a scholar to allow and facilitate that Union you this is an an obligation upon the people of knowledge so especially when the knowledge of Islam is so scarce that people don't have that kind of knowledge of Islam they don't have they don't know they don't know these rulings now why am I saying this why am I saying this let's go back to the original I want to go to

the iology of this problem where did this whole MBA This calamity stem from let's take an eological look people okay let's go right back to the origin the origin was that you see in in early Islam and in the jilah time people would marry and they would divorce so a husband would divorce his wife and he would say oh T you know I'll give you T so fine she's divorced now she would sit in so she would have this me waiting period of three menstrual

cycles let's say now she would wait her but before the finishes so let's say she's got it's going to take her let's just say it's going to take a 3 months okay now three menal Cycles don't mean 3 months but let's just say that for Simplicity purposes now when she's close to the final one finishing he would say oh I've taken you back I've done R because a husband can revoke any talak he issues this is what the Sharia teaches so he would take her back so she would now say okay now the moment he's taken her back the next day he would say I'll give you talak again so now she

would wait another 2 3 months when she's towards the end of the cycle he would say you know I've taken you back and he would go like this for two 3 years maybe he would have other women other wives but this one he would torture her so she wasn't a free woman she couldn't go and just marry somebody else and she wasn't like a wife with him either so this was unquestionably I mean undoubtedly this was zul it was oppression and Allah condemns this strongly in the Quran and he said

that don't dare like leave the woman in that suspended State as a woman who is suspended that either marry her or let her go you either live together kindful kindly or you part ways gracefully that's how Allah sets the balance so what happened to safeguard the woman to safeguard the woman Allah said okay now if he does it a third time you don't have any more talak to

issue but the question here was you see a husband might just do this he might say no problem because she's vulnerable when I divorce her the third time I'll just say to her Hey listen you know what I got a bit carried away sorry I've been thinking about let's just do another nikah and then she'll probably say okay cuz she's she'll be on the rebound let's say and she'll be vulnerable as well in this scenario now the moment he does the nah he does the same thing again says Ah I divorce you again and now the same

thing so how do you stop this so Allah says that to safeguard the woman he said look if you divorce to the third time it's over and I tell you what she can't even marry you again no she can only marry somebody else but okay in the future should that relationship break down she can come back to you should she choose to and Allah uses the verse look at the verse he doesn't say until she is

married off Muhammad everybody that's one of the leading uh and legendary of the UK an absolute ocean in the Maliki M People if you're not following she Muhammad sidal then do so right uh so there he is on Facebook she right so the thing is now this this thing right so to safeguard the woman Allah is saying you

know what she cannot marry him again and the and the verb Allah uses is than for her she is the active agent until she marries a husband not she's married off not that somebody marries her to this she marries that she marries a different so this is her choice willfully she her she is embarking on a relationship yeah if that broke down right if they you know in if the if the two want to get back together and she wants to marry this

husband again she can the first one she marries look at this she is the active agent so this whole thing was done to safeguard the woman because it's kind of it's the end of game now it's like you can't really it kind of kills the game because the husband that was kind of treating her like this toy saying oh you're divorced I'll take you back your divorced I take you back well she's gone now you can't marry her anyway Islam has stopped it she's gone with another person now you're not going to do that anyway and you're not going to have that interest

so this is what the these verses of the Quran came down for okay this is what they were revealed over um right this is what they were all about what's happened is over time the backlash unfortunately not maybe not as obviously that was immense torture that was happening initially but what's happened is the backlash the kind of reactionary result became similarly humiliating for the woman so you know

so so it went from trying to safeguard the woman and it landed in a way that it still ended up humiliating the woman now it was not this was not happening like this in the time of the Prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam by the way so in the time of the Prophet Muhammad sallallahu alaihi wasallam this was not happening like this but it starts gradually later a few cases few and then as Muslim civilization develops this becomes obviously a thing because Muslim start there becomes this culture of T I give you T I give you T if you do this T if you do this T this becomes a whole and

this is something it's silly it's Petty right it's ridiculous the books of talak the book of talak is the second largest second largest book within the book of after it's it's a massive a huge chunk of that is all about people make taking Oaths of T oh if this happens I'll give you T if that happens I'll give you T people don't need to speak like that this kind of thing is nonsense and so what I would advise as I've said before that look Islam is all about

welfare it's all about mus it's all about preserving and safeguarding right the somebody said there maybe this was a punishment somebody said maybe what whilst I was speaking somebody had commented that maybe this was a punishment punishment for who punishment for the guy what like saying oh uh you said look I absolutely condemn people using using this kind of language as a threat saying to people like if a husband says to his wife oh I'm going to give you I'm give you I'm give that is just that's just a child

okay yes I mean talak is there the relationship is broken it's broken Bren but what I'm trying to say is that people who use this that's unacceptable to start off with secondly if he does use it more than anything he's in need of Education yes if the woman does not want to go back to him then you do not need to kind of provide certain fwa because the woman is just glad the relationship's over but if both couple have a strong resolve to get back together then the woman shouldn't be further pen ized and humiliated as a consequence of the

husband not being able to acting like an idiot so husband says talak T talak now she has to go and spend a night with another guy to pay for him I mean that's ridiculous that's absurd by any measure so as I said that look if the couple have a strong first of all people shouldn't use these kind ofak term terms in that way secondly if it does have happen then uh and both couple both couple have a strong resolve to get back together then I believe that um

Ms then I believe that the the that the especially in our day and age have an obligation and are Duty bound to find for to find for the couple any uh uh any ruling that will allow them and facilitate this Union okay because the whole thing is about trying if if a family want to stay together then Islam wants them to stay together okay that's all I can say uh Islam is not about breaking homes it is about making homes but if it's a different scenario if a

relationship has broken down if a relationship has broken down then Islam is not going to uh impose an artificiality of a home but we're a family wish to stay together it is absurd to claim that Allah wants them to be a part that you know let no man cleft them aund as as it says so the thing is that this this has kind of brought a lot of uh disrepute unfortunately onto Islam I still uh I mean there's been that whole right now it's been in the news and everything this whole thing so yes Allah may Allah make things easy for

people who are going through S such circumstances as well um but uh we really do need a lot more education out there right people I've gone on for way too long I'm surprised some of you have hacked it right I'm going to leave you to it inshallah once again if you are on Facebook and you've not uh added me before or followed me then do so I'm on Twitter as well same handle mu AB uh on Snapchat as malm 2014 that's m m 20114 you can add me uh shoot me your questions inshallah I do try to respond uh as as much as I can although right

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