Monday Nights with Mufti Abu Layth: Session 68

all right hopefully I've got this up this time this has been such a mission especially with so let me just check that this is running no idea mm-hmm I take it in his life I take it we alive [Laughter]

can I say good job Joe take it up Joe gotta get rid of Anna see I've done this early and now the demon is awake this is the problem Shailaja tell her up assalamu alaikum but look it up for John I ticket well Salam aleikum alright alright

alright let's do this oh yeah oh yeah yeah yeah yeah love you my job tell the Rosalyn cousin barsy honey I've got a job I've got a way for her to go she's not see this is the problem with starting earlier that too many people I checked deacon ready John actually that

looks alright yellow yellow later please these are actually some gadget ones which are bought for her which you can kind of like just put on your arm like that pretty cool huh jello yellow does it mean Oh Jojo her bra in alhamdulillah wa kafa what salat wa salam o allah rasool mustafa

I bear the high burden Ladino Papa or mum be Hoda Amin Dada or be a sari Almudena Takata were bad for Salaam Allah he ll own an asylum become who Shama did running lights bienvenidos a todos and swagatam people swagatam swagatam the screen is frozen I sure hope not I sure hope not what a week it's been right have I changed that yeah I've decided to come on an hour earlier

because so many people can't because it's Monday they have to go to sleep early and you know not everybody's a vampire like like me I guess and so unfortunate I've had so many requests that I thought oh what the hell okay I think before I start shall I agree to the terms of this Q&A wait a minute a question do we know what a question is let's define what question means first okay CG you doing it you're

doing it alright beer with power Sahib alright I know something so yep so here we are people what an interesting what an interesting kind of wickets being huh what a weak people let's get to the topic of Jesus Christ our Savior right so there's quite a few things I'd like to kind of get out the way I will be going over a kind of evaluative summary so I'll go over this whole this discussion between share a

cerrar G hand and bandana cheese in front of you so between share this road and I this whole debate stroke discussion that went down that was the boy Wow so I'm gonna come on to that I guess somebody's asking how do we know you're serious

I'm only let me let me take a sip where's my drink I'm gonna need this to wake up people to wake up I have for the record I have tried being serious once I just didn't find it funny enough I gotta say subhanallah the level of hate next

level mine right as many of you know as many of you know that my other facebook page is currently still banned so it's going to take a thing till midweek so if you guys can share this share it like it and share it don't just don't be tight-fisted people see this is this is where you truly get to test people's you know the the kind of rotten nature of their hearts they're like why should I like somebody's Facebook state useful would hmm

[Music] you do know liking something it doesn't actually cost you anything that's what the like button is there for so people have this kind of thing the whole world okay it's amazing actually it's amazing you give human beings a bit of control boy how they choose to exercise it so come on then like it get it out the and Santa Claus Santa Claus is coming I sure hope Santa Claus is

coming you know when I'm doing that by the way I'm not blocking people I keep getting these about the memory being on the iPad or something and I gotta press the button that's what it is so it's not um actually don't think I'm constantly blocking that said the mark and block people the marker block admin crew are on on the ball tonight so Allah I flattened out my drinks now you see I tell you you know Pepsi things like this the best way to drink them is

flat a la icing there's always it doesn't matter you know when it was snowing I still had to have ice in my drinks that's that's just the way Robin is struggling she's losing friends because I take it you mean because of me you're losing friends yes I am because oh well that starts the test that you got to go through in this world that's how the Lord tests love worker Allahu Akbar

well think about don't worry look on the bright side the people you're sharing it to will just look at me and think ah just some guy got no idea what he's talking about just ah am i serious now are you mocking I told you I I seriously joke and I joke seriously that's that's what I do these things are all synonymous for me why do you think I've got into half the trouble in my life that I've got up to I've got into you it's because of this ha well I think the main thing is that we have to be true to

ourselves okay drink maybe with your right hand question mark although known [Laughter] anyway it's amazing how people get so obsessed they come on to something and they think well we got a they think we got to tell somebody off oh my god how do you drink with the left hand I mean besides the fact that if they could read they could see everything's in Reverse but put that aside and that I'm actually

drinking with my right hand but this to drink with your left and right hand is just from the adverb it's just from the a dab that's all it is within Islam it's not an obligation it's not Haram to drink with your left hand it's not these things don't need you know it's just from the adverb and etiquettes of how to eat and the Prophet was teaching people etiquettes and people are like that's the first thing you know if if somebody read this they would think I in Islam this must be after one God it must be drinking with the right hand and God forbid you've

only got one arm then you've had it this is it man this is it right so anyway this a Christian thing no it's not a Christian thing it's just from the etiquettes you know it's just from the etiquettes of society you know people do certain things in the profit advise people from the a dab of how to eat but that becomes the I will today I will do God's work God has chosen me Allah my

lord not Jesus Christ my lord well just in case some people are still a bit confused my Lord has chosen me to do his work and the work is that I must come on those two raise their glasses with their left hand I must strike down upon thee and strike their fingers off [Laughter] and then they ask why is religion a joke well well hmm so what's been going on

people whoa what a week man what a week - first of all I get banned from Facebook for seven days and and this I don't know if those of you that read my post I want to first of all just say look you know seriously from the depth of my heart people much love seriously - to all of you for being so supportive in regarding that issue earlier on in the last week what I kind of went through it kind of hit me I'm gonna be honest with you because something it's not that I'm not resilient I think I'm very kind of

personally I can you know put up with all sorts and I have very thick skin I think you know and I have a lot of patience with people as well it's not like that and neither is it that I've not seen riffraff you'll be mistaken if that's what you're thinking you know I've seen and heard it all it's not that you know we we've all now I'm born and raised in Birmingham hansworth for God's sake so the thing is it's not that these things happen but it's just I didn't expect it from a certain crowd

who were especially Muslims to kind of like really I mean want to kind of mock me to that extent okay you know that's not the right thing either but you know you can do whatever the hell you want that they find my view and these are not necessarily practicing Muslims but I'm not here to judge them but what had happened was this this group called Asian shout out some people from there used to they started in the last month logging onto my facebook live and some of them asked me for shoutouts and

things like this and I'm all yeah like you gotta remember that when I'm on alive you guys are posting your common I only see two lines or at most three and they move rapidly so I don't always see what people are saying so people sometimes ask me for a shout-out look I have no harm I mean saying hey look we got some and I do that and I just you know like if I see like a shade or somebody coming on that I know that or somebody that's a guest or that I know I usually just give them you know like hey we got so and so in that and I like this kind of this is a human kind of this is what the humaneness the kind

of great human family thing is and so anyway these people have been asking for some shoutouts and some person these come on there and and he's asked because they've not got this attention they decide to troll me instead they look I'm not giving them attention so let's troll him so they've kind of made posts about me on this Asian shelter and it was particularly a character by the name of Shia Islam and and and he's kind of gotta be is gone borderline obsessed he became a bit obsessed with me so I kind of blocked him for trolling but then he would make different profiles and come on and and they do all these and on this

group Asian shout outs for weeks on him they would just make posts about me and mock me and insult me and swear at my mom and do all these kind of things and these were only later brought to my attention and and this is what why because they would say this guy is a fraud and he misrepresents his farm so I'm thinking well and and that's how you ought to represent Islam but then this one day he come he came on again in my last session last week and I kind of said look her and I even gave him a shout and I said look don't troll otherwise I'm gonna blast you into oblivion or something into you know by

being blocked and and and then he did troll and I blocked him so he made some kind of thread on that Asian shout out saying oh okay I will a move T this move T whatever he's saying is gonna blast me block and his friends jump on and the admins some lady by the name of Yasmine ASL Asian shout out something they all jump on this threat and she owns that this whole page this whole group and then itch he's got some friend by the name of like Ammon rah or something and they jump on and they all perceptibly Muslim and then it shifts from dissing me to dissing they start off by saying how this this is and then

they jump to my daughter Oh is he begins with this and then they deleted a lot of comments by the way but he jumps to this o is his daughter feet and and then he jumps into o what we're gonna do to teach this guy a lesson is that they're gonna kind of molest my daughter like sexually they're gonna do all this kind of sexual crap to my daughter and this is to teach me a lesson and and then they go on like this and people are jeering cheering them up and they kind of like all jumping on ha ha until somebody says oh you peed OHS you know you sick pedophiles what the hell like his daughters like three

because they've shared pictures in the past of like my Santa Claus picture when I'm wearing that Santa Claus thing and my daughter standing here they've shared this kind of stuff and then they got all you sick whatever pedophiles what the hell's wrong with you so then the guy says oh right oh I didn't know I thought she was 18 not that that justifies anything and then they jump on to Oh like let's switch to his wife and and how we're gonna do all this to her and and this is all Muslims all we're gonna go these we're gonna take turns we're gonna do all this and I've gotta say that that

really kind of caught me off guard like somebody kind of brought it to my attention I was just shocked that one that these people would drop to such know kind of like such like I wouldn't even expect that from even non-muscle I wouldn't expect you know even nobody does that kind of stuff so they drop that low and the admin and these idiots are just there they see this and they don't kid they they just like joke you know I mean how can and this is what this is because you don't like the way I present Islam like that's

your way of like I don't like the way he presents Islam do this let's do this to his daughter let's do this to his they you know and it was sickening I gotta say well it did catch me I'm not gonna lie kind of caught me off guard and it kind of hit me because I just didn't expect that kind of hate like I get a lot of hate from people but I've never ever had that kind of disgusting vile things being made and said at me and then going on openly even openly admitted like saying on the so I got some screenshots and stuff and I made a post saying look

how disturbed I am that these people said this and the admin and I mentioned that lady's name yes mean whatever and I said that you know and they just laughed along and and then these people reported my post and big for bullying never reported me for bullying but obviously because Facebook is all automated and it just checks names and because I did have their name in my post I got banned immediately from Facebook for seven days um and then I I made a separate post on my on this page just saying I didn't mention their name saying this is what had happened I noticed honestly I was

kind of disappointed now I tell you what I was more disappointed as well by the people that start to stick up for them people came on my post that were from that group saying things like oh you can't even take banter I mean what kind of sick banter is that you know what kind of sick banter is that I mean I think I've got a great sense of humor you know I think I've got a very a crazy sense of human I love all kinds of jokes but what kind of banter is that you know in a public place because you disagree with who a scholar you disagree with a scholar you know you might think you know they're calling me a disco maulvi

or whatever or a fraud or and that's a and then I had some women message me you know who I don't know them but they're from that group I think they're the admins as well on that crew who in their profile pictures although the pictures don't seem real have like he jabbed kind of pictures but that could be just a profile picture of somebody else because it doesn't look like a legit picture but they but they had this woman go for Rena I don't know her name right kind of messaging me saying look Oh I'm the admin and by the way you got that wrong it was just banter she goes to me it was just banter they were saying this they

got carried away and she goes and by the way I just want to correct you he he thought your daughter was over 18 honestly that really shocked me man that he is a woman a woman Muslim woman who obviously must have some values messaging me to tell me so I replied to her I said and that would make it okay to rape her if she was over 18 is that how you feel that you know you feel that oh it's oh she's over 18 we can do this now that's okay like what the hell is wrong with you so this kind of really disturbed me a bit

and I know I have reported them to the police and for the past few days we've been back forth in in touch with the police and I've been gathering evidences and stuff like that because I think this is sick and nothing and but warrants or justify is that kind of behavior and I am utterly disappointed in that and I did make dua against them and I do and I will never in my heart forgive those people you know what is dies between them and Allah but what they've said I will never forgive them and so that's that I suppose it is what it is

but yes all that was going on and I was kind of a bit taken aback and and he just came out of nowhere and then I'm kind of dealing with stuff like that I'm dealing with the cops back for all that kind of stuff but then in between I suppose this I had some other thing from another scholar an American scholar kind of aimed at me that was kind of just saying oh which I'm not gonna deal with today but it was also on this same topic of Jesus and stuff you know dr.

shaadi al Masri you know in some video saying how he feels I'm kind of I've left Islam because of these beliefs or most like it probably has left Islam now I'm just mocking me and stuff like this and but I'm gonna come to him at another time in sha Allah but I'm just dissing and I've got that going and then obviously sharehouse are are kind of gets in touch with okay this date you know we're gonna meet now you know it's gonna be this because I think he wanted a meet in the morning and then he said I can't usually make mornings and stuff and so he said okay it's gonna be Saturday it's gonna be said it's all right fine Hyundai so all this was kind of going on so it's

been a bit of a a bit of a week but yeah but I want to say first of all before going into this whole what happened with share her sorrow I want to say seriously from the depth of my heart that you know much love seriously to each and every one of you for being very supportive you know may Allah keep your smiling because it it showed that you know we've got people have some level of integrity even if you can disagree with people you know you don't have to be clones but uh but

that that was something so I respect that even one to people who I don't normally like so haha we're on some kind of groups together and they're always taking digs at me and they were kind of taking digs at me all week as well and they do that all the time but I'm used to it but I gotta say you know I respect that as well this is a character by the name of naive who is a former student I'm not student so he was the former stream where I was I mean we were colleagues and you know we studied together we were friends we're friends and although in recent times he's always kind of taking digs that mean but even you know from somebody

like who constantly I find sometimes so annoying but with his kind of thing even he kind of showed you know some supportive compassion and stuff and it was interesting to see that but anyway so I wanted to kind of be grateful to all of you and as the hadith teaches that you know man lam yasha Colinas la mouche colada Allah whoever isn't grateful to people isn't grateful to God so sugar and heya come along so now moving on to today's right so I think I better take a sip here right this is so this right

what's happened I write a meeting with chef s rod that many people have seen now I need to give them the kind of backdrop to all of these because I think people don't really know or some people many people do some people may not write so what's happened is since last year I was asked about Jesus and the second coming of Jesus so I mentioned that look this is an issue that many Muslims do believe this but upon closer inspection I said certain scholars especially of

the 19th century 20th century have revisited this topic and found this to not really be as established as people have claimed it to be right so now I I'm so in this and I mentioned some of these orlimar I mentioned names like chef Muhammad Abdul and and Rashid Rida and these are the great Michelle fellas her and I mentioned things like most of al-mi'raj we use the chef volas her I mentioned chef mark shalt you know Michelle - who was the chef alas her I remember a chef mentioning chef of the Sahara who's from the mushaf alas her

kind of Chef Mohammed Al Azhar the other people even even our shul who speaks on this topic saying look this is just Islamic information this is not really creed and he was the Scheffel Aslam of the last century and the grand masti of the malik here and I mentioned that I'm inclined to this and this is how I I don't believe in a second coming of Jesus now there was a post made in the following weeks by Sheikh Hassan who mention my name but he said that look I'm mostly from Birmingham I said blah blah blah blah blah and I know he is really picky about

to quote his exact words look I ain't gonna quote you exact words okay I'm just gonna say how in paraphrase if this is life it's not the Word of God I don't need to be you know exactly right so but the point is he made this thing saying that look I doubt he's saying this on Facebook he can do all of this in front of people because nobody can challenge him does he have the courage to kind of come and debate like me on him in other words that look I accept a few words here all day like that day in the debate I was quoting this and he goes no I want you to quote me exactly and I said look I don't know exactly but you're in front of me if I say something wrong is

correct me cuz no I want so I said look you said does he have the courage to come and debate me and he said no I said will he have the car so I really so I said all right Shea will he you know say the word of God for God's sake you know like if I get a word here they you know it's know just just roll with it man so look so since December I have been trying to make contact with Shea facade

and he knows this you know I I didn't have his personal number but I message people he knew maybe some family extent some maybe some family members of his maybe some other friends I know his personal assistant kind of his who's very close to him manages his stuff I did have his number messaged him then I okay it took me a few days whatever to kind of get in touch with people I did I said look this is going towards mid latest December I said sure you know I've come across this post of yours and I said look maybe you want to just sit with me you and me and you know we can

just talk this out I said this seriously and so and I've got this and he knows this and I said look how about it's just you and me and we avoid all this drama we avoid all this entertainment and how about that and I actually said to him look Christmas holidays are coming up Christmas holidays are coming up right I said look Christmas holidays are coming up and Santa Claus Santa Claus ain't coming but I said look Christmas holidays are gonna come up soon and I'm going away on a holiday with my I said I'm gonna take my kids and my family and I'm gonna go on a holiday look how about we meet up just in the next few days before this let's get this out of the

way but okay you know it took a while for him to kind of and then he messages me early January saying look I'm busy I mean this is through his this is through someone so if there's an intermediary in the middle he's assistant they saying look I'm busy and I'm doing these but we'll we'll set something up and then I say all right fine and then he says look I'm busy in January we'll meet in February and then then he says okay look I don't know if I want to really go ahead with this debate as in I'm not and I'm not saying this to say he's backing off I don't want you people you know his fans or his students to kind of go oh my god oh my god I'm not saying that I'm

just saying what I understood he said look I don't know if this is really even an important topic so what why don't we look for something else and discuss something so I said look but this is what you called me out on why don't we just discuss what you called me out on and this is the backdrop on giving you so it kind of goes back forth between us and him and then he just says look I tell you what you know let says here's a date we're just gonna debate and then I said look but don't you want to sit and chat don't you want to do something you know don't you want to make it clear that maybe you've even misunderstood me and then he said well okay and then he said look here's a date at this time it's gonna be March now and I said look

I can't really make those I can only make evenings but I'm a vampire people I only make evenings everybody knows that about and then he just said look okay in this last week said okay this Saturday we're gonna meet at this time and you know fine you know we're gonna meet and so I said all right fine alhamdulillah to be fair the beginning that the mindset I had was to kind of define that why are we gonna talk about what are what are your issues with with what I believe what is it that you actually believe about this and then we can sit and have a further longer discussion maybe in the future or a debate what

that turned out to be you guys probably watched that it was a disaster okay you was an epic a disaster of biblical proportions it was an epic disaster honestly I I I'm kind of disappointed and I think some goodness did come out of it but what kind of followed that was important look I've given you the backdrop we kind of sat down chase a cerrar came and you know it seemed

reasonably cool they didn't seem like too tense he didn't seem you know when he came and everything and he didn't tell me any of like he wants to kind of pick a bone with me about something he didn't tell me that he doesn't say to me by the way you know before we begin because in all honesty he could have done that off a off screen but he didn't say any of that he just came he was normal greeted you know sat down i sat down and then he just said look wait I wanna wait I want this to go live I did actually suggest are you sure you want to do this live like I said that before

look because life is volatile you know we don't know what's going on and and I know that a lot of people on his thing just I know they hate my guts anyway I'd read some of the comments on his post before they've really hate me mine like sometimes if I ever doubt my existence you know if you ever think do I really exist I just have to read some of the comments on like share thoughts he's following post and I think oh yeah I definitely exist because some people out there boy they do they hate me you know

cogito ergo sum mm-hmm you know I think therefore I am they hate me therefore I am okay so the souther so coming to this point now we begin this discussion and I gotta say look honestly shed a cerrar begins with I didn't even get where I had no idea where he was coming from he begins with all this I didn't like this whole approach of I'm gonna like very kind of like I'm gonna intimidate you I'm gonna kind of look and I'm not saying I mean just in case these followers say oh my

god are you trying to say he was just trying to intimidate you you tried look I'm not saying he was trying but this is how it comes off yeah I'm just being honest you could watch the clip look let's just pause this for a moment let's pause all of these for a moment pause pause pause look people beliefs are something we have in here right beliefs are something we have in here right now you could say to me look Mufti I I

believe that there's this this this something is gonna happen I believe in aliens you could say I believe that there's a glow-in-the-dark unicorn that exists out there and it lives on the planet Saturn you could believe I believe in in ghosts I believe in exorcisms you could say I believe although that's not a part of faith like that but I believe in Jesus Christ is gonna save the world he's gonna come back as the second coming of Jesus he's gonna save the world okay fine you have ibly but when you present a belief to somebody the whole purpose of

this is the people should have a right to question and ask like okay would you like me to believe that so what is this belief about you know I tell me about this like what is this about what can happen why do you think that does this make sense does this this is how look this is how the prophet of God call people to Allah he called them to one God they they questioned him you have a right to question you want me to believe in one God but you know all our parents have been doing this but all these can we all be wrong woody and the Prophet reasoned with them

he said yeah they're ours ok so tell us more about this time how does it just work as one god then and the prophets telling them Lucas it's like this it doesn't make sense and he tells them this is what you should be allowed to test the evidence you should be allowed to test things that's what belief is so ok now let's go back to the thing so jealous rod begins and I remember I want it what what is it exactly you believe about this Jesus coming back and saving the world about this belief of Jesus what is it like talk to me but he begins with this whole thing ok let's start

first of all I do not like the way that that can oh what village are you from in Pakistan what kind of this what kind of that uh you know you're from this video I'm not from that but it doesn't bother look I don't know I don't know where we're going with all this it's just all of this is just confusing the hell out of me like I'm thinking ok fine right ok whatever can we get to the point right so right ok we are here before we begin I need you to apologize that was another thing just totally caught me off guard

apologize for what oh well you you cracked a joke about Santa Claus in LA follow up speaking about Jesus like you said Jesus isn't gonna come back but guess who is gonna come Santa Claus is coming to town ha ha ha ha I was like honestly I couldn't get over this part because I thought honest I'm being honest wallahi I did not remember that joke even right now I do not remember that joke although if you ask me do you think I think yeah it's something I would probably say I'm

that kind of a person I'd probably crack a joke like that so I can believe I have said I can check it's not a problem I haven't checked but it doesn't bother me ok so you find this joke offensive ok and what like if you find it offensive what I've got to change my whole personality I can't crack jokes anymore well you've never cracked a joke in your life that other people haven't found offensive you know but this this right to censor humor like why nobody has a right on saying look I'm sitting in my house this is my I'm paying the bill to to to kind of go live I can say whatever on earth I want you

can disagree with me you cannot like you can say look I think he's making an idiot out of himself fine it's your view I I believe that I've respect you to have a view you know I think personally other people are being idiots I think being serious all the time is being stupid that's my approach I think the more I think you can never laugh enough in this world that's my approach to life that's my attitude I get that you don't like that I get you might think well you're being a clown but that's just me come on look let's face it you know that about me you know I make a video every week I'm laughing my

head off on all of these clips so look don't think like oh all of a sudden like well why oh my god why are you never serious I mean what are we even so that so a good part of this next hour that went on this discussion was all about I ought to apologize which I said look I'm not gonna apologize for my personality if you've got a problem with it fine I respect that you don't like that I accept that if you're asking me do I accept that I may offend people I said look I may offend people but I've never insulted people who say I've attacked a

concept I've not said shake so-and-so blah blah blah or full-on or this person or that person named Abdullah or this person named sage or that person named hammer is an idiot for believing I've not said that I've said I think this belief doesn't make sense to me and then I've cracked jokes about Santa Claus so what now I don't believe that this is true I actually believe that this is crept into Islam from Christian theology and we can come to that later on but so anyway this whole hour kind of goes back forth I was getting really I was getting frustrated I'm gonna be

honest with you because I thought look if you don't want to talk to me why have you come yeah why have you even agreed to come here because they use challenge that look I doubt he'll be able to ever sit in front of me and have a discussion yeah right and then I did think you know at this stage when I got a bit kind of fed up with this I thought you know what because shakers and I said don't worry we've got till 4:00 in the morning I thought look I don't want to be doing this till 4:00 in the morning and look I don't then I look it's taken me three months to have a meeting with you three months is taken me and I've respect

you're busy I value that you you know your value to people I get that look so then I thought okay I've had enough lets us have a discussion right now you and me let's just talk let's have a discussion what is it you believe talk to me let's discuss this so we can get an idea let's just discuss this what is it that you believe and I'm sure by all means we can meet again as well we can meet again as well but let's have a discussion now but one thing I've realized is it is it is impossible honestly I have to say I have spoken

with so many people in my life I can tell you I have debated argued Dada dialogues with so many people Muslims and non-muslims I've had with all sects you know within whether selfie Sufis do open these Braley's if one you named them here's what the real people you know you name them any kind of pure extremists I mean actual like people who want to just kill everybody I've had conversations with people who believe we should just go out and kill non-muslims I've had conversations with I mean like dialogues these kind of debates with

people atheists with agnostics with with Hindus with Christians with wallahi I have never had a difficult dialogue ever never this was the most difficult kind of dialogue if I can't really me calling it a dialogue is a metaphor it was not a dialogue but that was the most difficult ever well lucky I date I have debated and you know like as far back as I can remember with people that you know that they debate all the time that they argue all the

time that they and they disagree with me passionately you know like and you do but it's never and I guess I did expect I did expect it to be a bit of this a bit I did expect it to get heated I did expect that they will be you know some ups and downs but I thought maybe that might be about 30% of the time at most but about 70% of the time we will talk look and this is not to just bring drag people in but just as an example I spoke I think a few weeks back that I had a dialogue stroke if you want to call it a debate but dialogue

with Mohammed hijab who's always debating people and we disagree you could say passionately on things and it was it got heated it wasn't recorded generally speaking I don't think it was generally recorded I don't know maybe some snippets but I don't think it was recorded overall but there was it got heated at some points but overall it was a dialogue you know he spoke I spoke we spoke you know I mean sometimes you might raise a voice or but it came back most of it was very civil most of the end you know we crack jokes we we hugged it out at the end you know very good like it was good like I mean

yes it got heated but that's it at some points but generally it was a dialogue this was from the get-go it was no and this I'm serious I think this is my I could be wrong I think that share this rod maybe somebody told him to do this or maybe this is on thinking I think that he was told that look you can't let mostly crack jokes because if he cracks jokes is gonna he might get the better of you through humor so this is why he wanted me to stick to his condition that I can't crack jokes which I didn't because I said look I'm not going to I am Who I am you know that bit about me before you've come here you can't change

my personality the second point I think he and maybe somebody advised him to do this or maybe this was I don't know he wanted me to apologize just so his followers and people could say well look either you know that they corrected the deviation and the deviance of mafia boule in public that you know in public we got him to apologize like and you don't lie these tactics of doing things like this in the beginning or pure indo-pak baggage and indo-pak tactics well lollie I'm not joking and I know he got offended when I said that later on I

said look and you leave these do Bundy bring me tactics outside with somebody else don't bring them in here with me and then he got really offended and said look I'm not a Brady why you called me a Brit okay I respect that I respect that point that look if chef s rod is not a brave E okay fine he's not a brave V I'm not and I don't mean I don't mean to insult him with that if he felt insulted fine but that's usually because he's part of the braid me crowd but if he's not that fine however however these tactics are 100 percent those do burn liberal V tactics like indo-pak tactics like you just have to go on YouTube

there's hundreds of debates on YouTube in order to watch them this is exactly what they do step by step seriously this is all they do this is like so common like they we in the West have moved on professors can have a dialogue you know you can sit and talk and you know share huh surround himself said to me look by his own admission he said look only atheists can have dialogues us as Muslims you know we can't do that he doesn't work like that was off-screen he said that and I have to say look I'm just being honest what LA He shed are are off-screen is a very decent guy

you know he is very decent I was shocked how the transformation was unbelievable because when we stopped that transmission he just became a totally different person like just like hey all Melo oh yeah like talking no raising voice all right oh don't worry about it Musti you know you know some people might have hate but it's all good you know also tell me about this talking about memories you know I remember when I met you in Damascus in the early 2000s you were talking to me about fertile birdy a commentary on Buhari and you know and all these kind of and he was talking about personal experiences I was talking

about my personal experiences and I was like wow I won't lie here I am what la he I actually said to his his his friends and assistants can you please put this live because this is the side that people need to see but they wouldn't put that life when they put it live at the end it was just to make the announcement and then they switch it off although it was recorded they did record all of this and as did we but the thing is that look I don't know whether it's the the camera observer effect I don't know whether it's the pressure from his following I don't know whether it's but on screen share facade it's just

something else honestly it is impossible to have a dialogue with him by his own admission that we can't do this we Muslims this is only if atheists are capable of having dialogue I disagree I think Muslims can we can have dialogues and I think we need to raise our standards right so look so this is the whole kind of thing and I want to mention that look yes people have said that look but mostly you too started to raise your voice and and you started to kind of you know like into the second hour and and I want to concede and admit

to that but look I think yes I did okay yes I did I watched back not the whole thing but I watched back quite a bit of of our discussion and I was very disappointed that was once I watched it back as well I was once again more disappointed in Chevron's approach but I was also in that second as I do raise but I do reciprocate especially after like one hour into it and and it's only human look you gotta understand that look I I did get frustrated because look I'm seeing that look you're here you know let's just talk about this because this is how it ought to have been it would have been like look like

if I say to you if I say to you guys I need you to believe in reason that the religion is based on reason by the way as a just a plug-in I've done a whole talk on reason which I'm waiting for in shoreline the coming week or two which hopefully will be edited and we can release that and that's going to answer a lot of question but let's say I say to you guys I need you to believe that religion is based on reason so you should be able to ask me really Mufti so but doesn't it then go with this and then I'll say oh but you can ask me but when you say reason do you mean everything do you mean this and I'll say yeah but this is what and what do you mean you know mostly when you're saying reason does that allow us to question

this then does that see you should be able to question me and I should be able to kind of say well give you the answers of what I believe because I want you to believe this and then you can critique me you could say yeah but Mufti what about these kind of miracles and then I would say well look I believe even miracles have an explanation in this dunya even if people haven't understood them and so this and we can kind of have this discussion but whoa that old thing just went from and it obviously frustrated me and then I obviously started to raise my voice as well I accept that and and by doing so I admit I by my own standards as well I think I

kind of may have fallen short but it's it's a human reaction okay so I I do accept that in the second hour of this a two hour thing in the second hour I also start doing things like that but it was only because I was getting incredibly frustrated but look it's taken us three months to sit down just talk to me you know talk with me like tell me what you believe allow me to question it like don't just tried like he said okay we're gonna talk but we have to have first of all the rules of we need the rules of munathara as laid out in a certain book we need this distance do you know this terminology do

you know debate falls in the discourse discourse has certain parameters to it there is then linguistic discourse which has these categories this look impress me with your knowledge of terminologies on another day right I'm not look what is this all supposed to mean like look what all these these by the way these definitions are just a part of Aristotelian logic which I've got nothing against I've got nothing against Aristotelian logic but it's not like you're hardly quote you know like oh I know that these categories to discourse and discourse may be subdivided into further categories and and this discourse is now called a debate and a

debate are several elements and yes this is this what are you talking about look it's not that I don't know these things but let's just have a conversation like a human being you're gonna say yeah but I don't know you what you are bide by what here but look when I say something that you disagree with you can say like cher has rod said to me in that conversation or that debate Oh me I believe everything in vihari to be valid that's what I believe so I said okay well there's clearly invalid things in Makati but okay so now you've realized in the discussion we disagree on things fine we'll move on

you know it's not a this isn't rocket science you know I don't need a book to tell me how to have a conversation with somebody I can have a conversation with you just talk to me when we disagree we'll move over it like we'll move along you'll just say okay fine but you're not you don't accept this point so we have a disagreement oh so how do you how do you prove the the Caliphate of save not a leader of the 'allahu on or how do you prove the caliphate of Abu Bakr what are we even talking about oh I know because I know what you and people are saying well why do you engage him because look I know what you're trying to do I'm not

you know give me give me some credit yard you know I'm not totally thick you know I know it's not like I know these debate tactics that resorting to you know you just want to say oh you just want to put me down because you want to say that oh i problematize the concept of each man which I do problematize I've said that so many times it's nothing new I said to you you said okay guac him what can we go by what can we go by I said Allah and his messenger Allah and his messenger like why is that so difficult to understand look you accept allah you accept his messenger

I accept Allah I accept his messenger because this is belief we accept reason there you go don't worry about the other things prove it to me you know you said to me this is in the Quran this is establish you made the claim quickly read to me the verses of the Quran do we should just even in five minutes I should just be like wall like dumbfounded but this isn't happening Oh motor water al-madinah we do you know the concept of to water or mana we is like this and I'm trying to show that look first of all you yourself know this these things are not agreed upon like

why are you using thing because share this rod made out and he said that oh what I'm trying to do is show consistency because most dia boleh he said in in the discussion movie a ballet has flawed principles he doesn't stick to his things and he has inconsistencies first of all I thought no passes to take that's just wrong right but okay fair enough I'm just gonna roll with this I'm gonna go with this okay let's just talk because look you're trying to say I have set rules and I stick by them you yourself know that isn't true you know that not to be true to say look I believe something is not a

water bill mana all these scholars have said this these scholars have all accepted this quoting you know like these scholars and as though there's some kind of authority you don't stick to them yourself look first of all this very concept of something being motivated great well had they thin like even high ban you know who has the great year he's one of the early compilers already he himself rejected that hadith reached that level of taught or he said everything is Habra I'm sure she has not already knew that I don't need to be bringing these things up him saying oh so this each man on this that ASA is coming there is a consensus now we need to debate

consensus why is there a consensus what because one person said there's a consensus look let me explain something let's take a topic like the parents of the prophet muhammad sallallahoalyhiwasallam right all these scholars he's quoting they claim that the same thing what they claim about Jesus they claim about the parents of the Prophet being in the Hellfire which by the way I don't accept neither - a facade neither do the Braille v's except that so look Mullaly akari writes a book saying this each man on this right he says that all the seller from the huh

laughs and the Greek a bar and I'm of this Ummah have accepted that the parents of the Prophet are in Hellfire the hadith is inside Muslim Imam Muslim brings the the hadith to establish that Imam no resets the title as this is the chapter to show that those people will not be benefited by the intercession of the Prophet if they died upon kufur and he brings in it the hadith that the parents of the Prophet in Hellfire Bay happy writes his book in the island Abu a saying all the ER do they keep quoting says this is a known sound clearly established what is it every wire that

the parents of the Prophet are in in the Hellfire and look the same thing all these kind of same people these same names a man know we all these people say this right yes later scholars challenging Imams ut challenges he and the previous don't accept I don't accept it I think it's an absurd statement right I don't accept it but the same thing look share her sadness and accepting he knows this it's not like this isn't new this isn't like this is my point look you to know that Imam curavi what does Imam Coffey says this each man in this that the parents of the

Profi rain Hellfire he writes in his commentary unclear look so what if he said him saying it doesn't make it happen you yourself know this so look at the end of the day we're all just picking and choosing what makes sense to us like you know that I know that you know so why are you acting like no any time the scholars have said this each man that we must accept me that's not true if not they're barred all the even called the other ulema said that this is our coming back is from hobro I had it is not motor what it is not clearly established

I mean it's they've said that hadith oh sorry but they've said it's not motor Watson now my point is that look by using this kind of sophistry this kind of these terminologies you're taking us away from the discussion why don't you just talk to me about what you believe let me question you let's see does it make sense and then we can take this further so I thought look that is an important thing to to kind of mention what really did get me and I you know and I hope by the way chef Azhar does watch this as well is that look once as

I went through it when I finished I kind of obviously read the comments I went through a lot of messages that I got people's newsfeed was hilarious and it was shocking as well I I got a lot of hate obviously from his followers a lot but it was interesting to see even his followers thought that he had behaved inappropriately like they thought he shouldn't have done this and and look this is my advice check this out at the end of the debate or discussion I actually said to share

faster our I think that's really messed up and was a disaster I don't think you should put that on the Internet even his own friends that were with him said we don't think you should put this on the Internet he said no leave it okay planning I mean it's your thing it doesn't bother me whatever you do with it now I've read comments and honestly I read some of the messages and all the hate okay put that aside for a moment what bothered me honestly is I came across some kind of message that uh

that kind of told me that look the message kind of said to me that I watched this and this was somebody who was kind of like struggling with faith yeah and they said that look this kind of showed them that religion maybe doesn't have the scholarship it showed it fell to this person that scholarship had failed the Muslim scholarship today wasn't up to the challenge of may be tackling modern because we are in the modern world and and this person felt

disheartened about you know obviously about Muslim scholars and and things but about Islam and by extension and that kind of hurt me that look my whole mission my whole thing is really look I don't have I'm not part of a sect I'm not part of a Sufi 30-acre I'm not part of a group or an order or people who come to kind of like associate with me or like me you'll learn from me this is just from their own good will this is just from their reason they come to I

don't have a following or like that I mean you could say maybe a following but I don't have a kind of sect but what my mission is my message is not to hard call Braille v's or the open these hardcore kind of this kind of minority sheer minority of religious hardcore practicing Muslims my message is actually to the majority maybe ninety over ninety percent of Muslims who are not practicing and then maybe a strong percentage of them who are unfortunately disenfranchised with the theme the

people who today feel that the beam is nothing but mythology and fantasy and and they feel that this is just like culture it's okay but we don't really it doesn't it can't stand up to the West it can't stand up to modernity you can't stand up to true criticism these people are who I talk for you know that is my people who struggle with faith that is who I'm reaching out to now for somebody like that to give me a message and tell me they're struggling now that hurts so look I I realized that look I've so this

was a disaster as far as I'm concerned okay this was an absolute disaster because unlike I know Cheverus Rob's words that we as Muslims can't do dialogues I disagree and I will what is he my meat this is the evening life Allah gives me strength I will demonstrate throughout my life whatever I have capacity that Islam does stand the test of reason that alone is messenger not unreasonable you can bring me any I believe that

Islam will not only stand but it will embrace the message of science and reason that the greatest challenges that are put to Islam I do not want to walk away from them in just saying huh but we believe this I want to stand the test and prove that Islam can answer them that it can that these people who are disenfranchised with Islam who who have kind of drifted away I want to extend that rope to them and with the words of allah wa la CIMA be happily

ladder hold on to that rope and to kind of reel that back in for them that look Aslam doesn't have to be a fantasy religion it makes sense Allah is not some sadistic you know some kind of the God of the Old Testament he is a that is encouraged us about reason this is what this is what my message is about and this is one of the reasons why I kind of struggled with this coming of Jesus because I did it didn't make sense and I'm prepared to talk about this unprepared to present why it doesn't do

that I'm prepared to do these kind of things but not at this cost not at the cost of people once again becoming disenfranchised and losing kind of just heart losing heart in Islam not at that cost so look I this is my message to share this rod and his people that look I yes you pour across the challenge for a debate and yes I contacted you the same month last year in December and yes it's taken us months but what I thought this was going to be wallahi I thought by debate my understanding of a debate

is we're gonna have a dialogue okay we're gonna talk now what we've agreed on in the end the understanding we've come to is okay chef Assad has come to an understanding that okay the only things I'm prepared to accept of Quran Sunnah and reason he's accepted that at the end alhamdulillah but then he made like his belief is that look we can never have a dialogue he said that we can't talk with each other but we can talk past each other I'm paraphrasing this ain't his words but he said the way we can talk is I can talk for three minutes or five minutes you can talk for three minutes

five minutes I can talk for three minutes you could talk for three minutes I can talk for three minutes you could but we can't talk with each other we can talk past each other but not with each other not on-screen he said right so look he never said those words because I know he's very he said he's pedantic about his words so I don't want to kind of you know show that I don't want to be misrepresentative but this is what he said he said only atheists can do dialogues like that but we can't do that this is what we can do and he said I accept your saying Quran some memories and so look having learned this and realized the disaster that this became rather

than and having learned one thing I learned is that with shellfish rar maybe it's my presence some people I've read some comments of some of these people hating on me saying you know that that Abu layth right he's so animated his personalities to animate and loud you can never have a civil conversation with him so okay maybe it's my presence and I crack jokes people say he keeps laughing and keeps doing things so okay maybe it's my presence maybe it's the camera observer effect because share thoughts are are as soon as that live went off he became a totally different

person wallahi i swear he within you know naught to 60 in two seconds flat he did that i I find it whoa like like it well my everybody was and he was a very decent guy I would say he was like it was the kind of guy you know I would say that I would like to that personality I would like to definitely meet and have conversations with he definitely doesn't enjoy my humor as much so maybe not you know we're not maybe like on that chill level you know maybe his other friend or his brother definitely has a great sense

of humor but but but him okay I'd love to have conversations with him I'd love to kind of catch up her food and tea and like that however I've realized on screen the screen is toxic is toxic and especially me so that combination and then the fact that we can't talk we can only do three minutes three minutes and this is very unnatural this is not a natural dialogue it breaks the flow so look better than this better than all of this what I'm going to say to share this around is that look if you can please rather than

speaking for three minutes only speak to your heart's content I mean with restrictions I'm gonna come to obviously not till like budget with your to your heart content to you I mean to your heart's content in your own comfort zone so you can sit at home or wherever you like I won't even be there because obviously I may be I'm agitating you may be the you know the live feed is agitating you so I tell you what you record your best arguments present because you've made the claim that look Jesus is going to come back

and this is a clear belief and you now know as well my angles like you said well I just didn't understand your your angle but now I do it's for Anselm and reason so you now know this so bring to me the best and the most solid of evidences to believe in why Jesus we should believe that Jesus is coming back through the Quran through this unnatural reason make a video comfortably uninterrupted no three ministry I'm not gonna say you should break your flow be in your best element being your best element don't be on edge be the best you

can possibly be do it comfortably from home please cover any Q&A that you think I may have all the people may have anything between one to two hours the whole thing please don't exceed two hours because it's gonna become very lengthy so if you can cover any counter questions make this video and put it up for us on YouTube okay I will inshallah wholeheartedly thoroughly respond to that okay with a with Y if it does make sense then alhamdulillah I will embrace what makes sense of it and what doesn't

I will then respond to that speaker since you made the claim you are the claimant saying this is what we believe right and I believe that this is soundly established so there you go make a video we obviously tried a dialogue by your own admission we can never have a dialogue on screen or being recorded we can only talk past each other so you you know we can few minutes few minutes view and that's uninterrupted I mean that's interrupted it's not natural you're not gonna be in your element you know you're gonna put each other off and then we're gonna end up doing this you know you're gonna end up trying to take digs you know I'm a human being I'm gonna reciprocate man like it's not and he's

gonna bring out a character in me which I don't like as well so it's not good I'm gonna fall by my own standards you're gonna fall by your standards you know we should hold ourselves to high standards so look you make a video put it out there I would hope you can do this in Charlotte within two maybe two to three weeks if you can that should be plenty of time you know just make a video one hour long two hours tops you know in the best presentation on why Jesus we should believe that Jesus is gonna come back from the or on soon and reason if you want towards the end of it you can cover any counter questions you might you could say well I think people

might question this on based on ABCDE and here's my killer responses once you've done that uploaded inshallah I inshallah then comfortably in my comfort zone right with respect and by the way look I people might say I try and I take digs and this and that you know and whatever but I d-did show and I do try to show especially wallahi in person if somebody meets me in person as a guest I may crack jokes I will do these things because that's my personality but I will always try to respect them well lucky I

know I always have this thing no matter how heated something gets at the end we should kind of be able to laugh it off we should be able to kind of hug it out I firmly believe that you know people always let's have a man hug you know let's let's hug this out kind of thing so with respect and I mean arm I'm gonna be although you know soaps and I think it could be that you maybe share this rod took certain digs at me did certain things you know like those doors I did people say why did you laugh in the door I was like obviously saying you know a lot of guide this person to the truth

let him guide him guys look I'm gonna laugh along with you because I'm like that I can take that but you know it was these kind of things are uncalled for the unnecessary unworn you know these kind of things but hey let's it was a disaster of anything I admit that I think by my own standards I - at some points reciprocated and hence I fell short in my own thing and and that's an observation there I've learnt and I think that you know what this st.

my style man like yes I mark I joke I crack things crack laughs and you know I do this kind of stuff but I I wanted there to be something more there so in short life you can make that video I will respond to it with a video as well okay and and people can watch this and they can benefit hopefully if you can do that within two weeks I would be much obliged you know and I will try to respond soon after as well I do have some preoccupation at the end of the month but I mean inshallah that's so that's my thing - you okay

sorry Charlotte ma love you share shed for a moment I was hesitating to for a hug so I had to just say you know if I you know that famous poet the famous poem of either cut in here you know when tights eat girl a leg just solemn rest me dunya be hey Moke I'll be here the store be here and I want to say that look right people anytime man each and all and I want to say look listen keep this message of mine I want you to

remember this that look wallahi this is the message that hit me this is what hit me about this this debate thing afterwards is that look people look to non-muslims wallahi that you muslims can't even talk about islam amongst yourselves that you muslims can't even poke about islam amongst yourselves Wow you know let alone okay I can't talk about Islam to an islamaphobe II hates Islam I can't talk about Islam and I have by the way to Islam but I'm just saying it could get all

well somebody's a race is bigger and they like you know I hate all you guys and but look as a Muslim scholar like let's say as a scholar - a scholar I can't even talk about Islam like not just me but we can't do this whatever we've come to what has this well I what is the state of Muslims come to me so III I think we need to up our standards let that kind of baggage go this kind of debates and and look by all means we have a joke and a laugh at times and and

I do the same I do the same on no different I'm a human being you know I do the same I'll have a joke in the laughs I'll you know people might kind of mock me or knock them back and we do these kind of things on Monday nights and lofty but we don't turn it into this whole hoo-ha in this sense like if they did ask for a debate and this is for future people as well anybody who's ever thinking of challenging me right I want to clarify this and put this out there right I will I will inshallah take up challenges and discussions it's an you know and I'm more I'm always ready to discuss my

ideas with people but one the person who is challenging me must be a learner - scholar they must be a scholar because otherwise there's too many Tom Dick you know Tom Dick and Harry's - kind of anybody to say well oh I think you don't understand Islam so one day must be a skull and a hamdullah that's fine because there's plenty of scholars out there they must be a scholar and - it must be a dialogue remember this it must be a dialogue so as long as you're prepared to engage and in the dialogue if at some point you know you might say oh we might raise our voice oh you might

get passionate some points that's okay hamdulillah but generally we must be able to engage each other so at least the majority of it must be interaction like the way professors do it the way professors do it today the way Richard Dawkins goes around having debates and dialogues with people we're not any less as Muslims we can do the same so as long as so to remember these things so if anybody you know wants to ever challenge me as long as they're a scholar sala hamdulillah then you know Allah Rossi were lying and secondly it must be a dialogue that it can be a debate but as a dialogue and

then please know my personality before you come right don't come and say to me look please don't be like this or don't be like that just as I don't dictate to people either I know I won't tell anybody look you know I think you don't smile in awful I don't like the way you dress so I don't like and you know this is I want to say a point here this is something I think it's important to understand look some people say you know mostly you sit in a t-shirt and you do this and you do this look this is my own house you know I'm sitting at home right

now by the way but this is my kind of man cave of made in here this is like a library I've got an arcade machine as well of retro from the 80s and 90s I bought an arcade this is where a chip this is my man cave I this I'm at home this is how I am right now I understand people are saying well you know if you go to a business interview you wouldn't go looking like that well I'm not at a business interview to start off with secondly people say well but you're speaking about Islam true look I want to I please listen to this from me now this is about me at least give me the right

to express myself and this is to my haters as well right because this seems to be a hell of a lot right so look the way you see me here you see me here right now I'm cracking jokes I'm laughing I'll suddenly start laughing about something I'll suddenly do things I am like that if you find me outside on the street like if you see me someday in a shop in a cafe at the gym or wherever you see me I will be exactly how I am I'll actually dress like this I don't dress differently for this talk

it's not like I normally walk around in a I mean when I go to you know it's not like I'm walking around in a jewban and when I'm here I just put on my t-shirt for you guys I don't I this is that you know if you see me right now I'll be sitting let's say from quite often when Alomar crowed having our vampire sessions drinking tea chatting it's how I'm saying this is how laughing this is I'm doing things I don't change for the screen off screen on screen I'm the same that's the problem that people find people say to me on screen you should be different but why because I find that as double

standards like if you find me outside like imagine I act really serious and or reasonably always like this and and I always wear a jewban then you see me on the street one day and you just you think that guy isn't that most dia boleh what a hypocrite look at him he's acting like it's just like a regular lad and you know and there he is on line acting all pious but I don't act pious I don't I've never said to anybody on peyer's I don't people have asked me Mufti would you come and give a talk on piety would you give a talk on the benefits of of reading so much to her truth and doing vicar I've said no well why he have said

no I said because I don't I don't practice stuff like that I I'm not a pious person like that so yes Allah has inspired me to love Islam and its legacy and and I love that and I learn about it and I try to teach what I learned that's all I do you know I I just probably bare minimum in Islam you know praying and keeping Ramadan fasts and stuff like that but I'm not out there trying to act like hey I'm some kind of super pious pizza I'm not right so look but why I do this is so I can keep it real like if

you see me you're not gonna have cognitive dissonance let me tell you you don't look I this is not to be judgmental you know a several years back I was in a less harm right for for a short while for just just a couple of weeks and there was a great Mufti who I love the most evil as hard in Egypt really got on with him awesome you know great guy great mashallah and he really took a liking to me as well and always in that less her gown I forgot I don't know what they call it now I didn't know but they are that special as her gown the special as her kind of attire and always very kind of

held himself and everything and and by the way I love this and this is in no way I'm not taking a dig at this person in anyway the reason I mentioned this story is just to tell you so you can relate to it know this this person is an awesome beautiful amazing person right so that's please don't take any message like that from this but this guy one day so we're chilling out I was there for a couple of weeks and towards the end he said like alright wait I'm gonna take you guys how I'm gonna take you guys to the pyramids we're gonna chill out and show you around Naya awesome on handling that so we went out this day and we're meeting at this

place and this Musti has come and but he had come in jeans and like a tracksuit top and like this kind of cap I'm not judgmental well I am how could I be judgmental I mean just look at me I totally walked past him I didn't know who was like I just thought he's just somebody else part of the group so I'm waiting the house oh the salt I'm thinking ah so the most he hasn't come today damn and then all of a sudden he's talking to me and I am I oh my god well I I had cognitive dissonance like

this is me having cognitive dissonance because he just looked so different now I'm not to judge him but can you imagine now of regular Muslims if I like this is how I feel if I did things like that like if I every time I sit down wear a gown and a thawb and and then you catch me on a rock road like this like this in a t-shirt you're gonna think he's and that that's musty look at him and nothing not a you know this guy off a look how he is ah loud and on ear he's

like you know are you knocking to be honest be honest what ye you are people I would even do it I mean I'd be like I'm gonna have to have confess I'd be a judgemental bigger and I'll be like oh so but even I would end up doing that so Luke this is why I just want to be normal I want people to judge me fine I mean I don't want them to judge me but if they're gonna judge me what you see is what you get okay you sketch me

outside I'm gonna be exactly Kashmere side how about that you catch me outside um be exactly the same you're gonna think cloudy and I'm gonna laugh the same as well I'm gonna crack jokes the same as well and I'm gonna produce the stupid kind of little I don't know idiosyncrasies that I do all the time I'm gonna do them too and that's just that's just who I am I'm not gonna put on an act for a screen and I get that that you know makes me makes many people say oh you know we can't call this person to this and we can't call him to lectures or conferences and fine no I don't need that I am Who I am

and by the way I'm for the record when I do go to conferences I do with suits you know like like everybody else I know people go whole you know if you go into a business meeting would you dress like that but when I go to a conference you don't see me in a t-shirt at a conference whenever I go to these talks and conferences I'm always in my suit so I don't see what this thing is about but anyway I thought that was really important to mention I didn't mean to kind of go on about all of this but I thought these were some really important points I wanna give you know a deep much love and a shout out to everybody that's been supportive because I did see a hell

of a lot of hate after that debate as well and disgust share this rod I know he doesn't go online much but I wish he would just to tell some of his followers off man that kind of stuff but they really people have this passion to hate me and because this week had just been so intense I'll be honest with you because this week a lot had happened and I was reading all these things people carrying so much hate for me and they don't even know me I've never met them ever and he just shocked me man but I the amount of love I have to say I got a lot of love respect online comments i

was looking i was reading comments I was reading now see how people giving tips they were giving advice I read a post by dr. Almirall father who I respect immensely by the way you know once again see he disagrees with me on this point of Jesus you know like he actually even mentioned but me you know I've like deep were respectful for him as a person doing amazing groundwork and and he even made a post about look I think really this just feeds the Eagles and I kind of thought about it and I thought I thought he's got a point you know he he's right that I think this kind of maybe just fed into my ego as well and I need to kind of like just check myself so so I

respect that you know I get these kind of things from people I think about it sometimes and people give me support Kaleem sharp-eyed that had a column share my father he's up from Canada I gotta say I totally love the braava always the love I just feel the love honestly even though look these are people I don't even meet I mean I when I say don't mean I've never met they like continents apart but Wow and they probably disagree with me and all this stuff honestly but just amazing then and obviously my own friends around me very supportive and that's obviously always

awesome and other people saw that kind of stuff it does make it makes it you know it makes that difference that you think yeah but like I think that day had come I dread so many things and it was like in the middle of the night actually and we've got from the UK and sheathe artists I don't know if you know say you great guy great machines by the way but he kind of gave me this call in the middle of the night and and and just to say look what's this up you know all this thing going on I just want you to know that don't worry mine for one hater there's thousands of people that love you and we love you that and I just

thought yeah I like it it's good you know it's good these kind of things I think you need to kind of it gives you that energy to kind of just I thought you know what after that kind of stuff I thought all right I thought in life our greatest victory I just you know the words of like Confucius kind of came to my mind that our greatest victory in life is not in never falling but in rising each time we fall I thought to rise Allah that these people they they

can hate all they want I've got so much more for them to be mad and hate me for inshallah just be patient this is only the beginning people the beginning I thought you guys you can say it do you want mine you can you can throw me to the wolves but I'm gonna come right back bismillah I'm gonna come back leading the whole damn pack as a true vampire would so that's a that's what I'm saying

man so unlike somebody just said son like Jesus you will rise keep rising alright tell you what let's take some rapid round questions and will then wrap this up probably in about the next 10-15 minutes we'll call this a wrap and what I will do from every week I will try to do this from 9 o'clock and all be a bit late as always but 9 o'clock as opposed to the 10 o clock because I realized that people struggle with an hamdulillah so we will wolves yeah but I've always felt that

vampires had some connection with wolves as well I don't know why that is why is that but I've always felt that I've had this kind of vampire theme since I was a kid you know lost boys that's it man always had a fascination with vampires right so look right so let's take some questions I was asked a question people ask me about each man this thing of each man look maybe in some day I'll do something detailed have answered a lot about each man previously each man there

it means consensus yeah and there is no consensus on what consensus is they haven't even scholars having agreed on there is no each man on each map so this doesn't make any sense this is a tool that is used to intimidate other people that's the truth I do in my personal understanding believe that age MA had an original had a Genesis which is not applicable today and it wasn't for it was only in the early community amongst the companions

and what age amount was amongst them I'll tell you what in my understanding and I presented this understanding to one of the leading scholars of the Maliki world today in Morocco chef's I presented this when I was in I was in Rabat at the house of Chef Mohammed roogie and he spelt it Ruki but Ruby they pronounced he's and he's a legend he was one of the grand shares of the Peruvian and one of the leading orlimar of the my lakiya today and I present I said this I presented this to him and he actually said that makes a lot of sense

and he kind of agreed with it I don't know whether he teaches it like that in public but he did agree and he said that that does make a lot of sense I said that look in my understanding that this is mad the way scholars quoted and the use it in the books has no reality they claim which mine everything everyone nobody agrees on what each man is and who's in this each man by the way consensus Mike I asked Chavez I say who's like the Shia ain't in our Richmond in the so the Shia so they've disregarded and then the other sects are disregarded and then each other they consider them disregarded who the hell is this consensus what kind of a

consensus is this and where does this come from because the evidence is for consensus don't come from the Quran O Sunna the hadith they present is a Baha'i hadith by by so by hadith so and the verses that they present are not nothing to do with this concept but do I believe that it had an origin I do believe now I want you to pay attention to this what I think happened upon this is my evaluation I think that this concept emerged with groups like the huar age now in early Islam the

first major group sect that emerged were known were this extremist radically extreme sect which are like modern-day Isis basically but I think they were maybe a few level the head of Isis but but they were pretty much like Isis re Isis are they're kind of like the kind of the illegitimate children of the hawala G now the whole orage believes that anybody who committed the sin is a kaffir and if they're a Kaffir they will definitely be in the Hellfire and and we are allowed to execute these people

because they could far they relied for this interpretation on apparent not interpretations apparent readings of the Quran so they read certain apparent verses which apparently read okay I keep saying this word so you understand that the literal verse supports their understanding it doesn't support the majority of Muslims the literal verses and anybody who commits who is surrounded by a sin will be in the Hellfire anybody who kills a Muslim will be in the Hellfire forever

anybody see so these sins will make eternal eyes you in the Hellfire so the apparent readings of the Quran in not of all the Quran but of these select verses read like this textually literally so if you're saying something else you're going with the interpretation they going with the apparent so this became a problem so these people are saying that look they're saying that look the Quran is saying this but you you want to go with your opinion but the Quran is saying that we they are kaffir the Quran is saying whoever doesn't room by

according to our lhasa is a calf in the poor army saying that and strike them and kill them and hit them at they strike the necks and strike their fingertips the Quran is saying this so what was happening is this group the Huaraz were using this so what happened is the companion said the great companions people like a book people like Umar the earth man all these great companions who companions of understanding even the most old companions of who used to give fatwa

like now I'm living on us and Maui and all these great companions they said Bilal and Harley bin Walid and all these great people they said that look no we lived with the Prophet we he was a walking talking Quran in front of us you know as when like I said you want to understand the Quran the Prophet was the walking talking Quran yes this verse apparently reads that it does apparently

read that but it doesn't mean that how do we know that because the collected inherited understanding of these verses by his leave companions alive today will demonstrate to you that the verse didn't mean this is where this is my kind of was born that look we are those combined not any companion not like our even Roger said or the companion anybody who met the prophet not that understanding of companion but true companions like and tell me the and in these are the books I would thou and these are the books when

unnecessarily along on and who is asked all the companions of the Prophet alive today and he said maybe people who saw the Prophet are alive but his companions are not alive they've passed away because what he meant what the prophet meant by his companions were those who were often around him like his friends and his support not just like anybody who saw him but that's like a technical word companion that some scholars kind of extended but his true companions they inherited his understanding and they said look listen we inherited this the Prophet never meant go around killing

Kafar he never meant that in the core I never meant that this had a context this is where each man was born and that level of each much to do with beliefs not being corrupted and hamdullah I embrace that I wholeheartedly embrace that understanding of each ma that understanding of each man to do with the Quran not being misused to do with beliefs around people don't become calf ears and though these kind of few key issues there weren't many but these things yes the Sahaba taught that if that's what you mean by each man later

on people started to expand this and they started to take it even into fifth I'm like even the cause is ma and this is why Imam Ahmed said money dial each man for work Adam whoever claims it's my son I am this is the famous saying of Imam Ahmed in Hamburg but then they're gonna say old but his followers accepted because later on people kind of work with the institutionalization because they used each man for their own strength they used it to intimidate followers they used it to coerce opinions it was a very key tool and yes the son Sunnis will reject the Shia from

each man they will reject them from each month they will reject so what kind what is this all about so this is why I think that's important okay right sir okay let's get that out there another important question somebody said to me in this debate that oh this guy claims to be a Maliki and this is a question by the way this isn't to do with the debate this is a question I'm just taking some questions somebody said look and there it is again about each month they said oh this guy denies it man he said not they quoting me saying Allah and his messenger Allah

and His Messenger everything else is just men and the person who you know that pious one when people start to go like all and then they're gonna say what Mufti mocks what do you expect me to do Harbin oh yeah like do you want a medal for that or something why are you being so dumb and stupid they go oh everything else is the opinion of men right so in that case oh how can you be a Maliki I'm gonna a little Medina I'm Malou Ali

Medina is men this is the problem isn't it we've got like the voice pieces that those who want to be the voice pieces are carrying the kind of microphone I like they like from the sunshine group you know they like from that kind of bottom set in schools you know like the we just like just color in it's like I read on this t-shirt he said I would explain this to you but I haven't got the patience nor the crayons you know coloring in [Music]

Oh today we're gonna color in the Woodsen in the color in honestly these evil yes Alam look those of you that don't know mean the Maliki method there is something known as the practice of the people of Medina that the inherited practice upon which Imam Malik found people this by the way this word Al Madina what Imam Malik would say the Amal the action was upon it wasn't this

wasn't the culture of just men this was the Sunna of the Prophet the Sunnah of the Prophet Imam Malik himself said that when they asked him he said elfin and elfin I have transmissions from a thousand different people taking it from a thousand different people taking it from the Prophet in this city and he said and then I have a chain one transmission even the golden chain Molly kunafa anemia Ouma deemed by Bihari the most authentic chain he said but this is just one-on-one and I've got a thousand

people saying it from a thousand he said aha boule elephant an elephant aha boo I am in wide and wide that a thousand from a thousand so these thousand people telling me they took it from their forefathers who took it from the Prophet directly is more beloved to me then this one chain this one-on-one in this hadith and he said that this one-on-one yinz o demon vania that he will snatch the Deen from right in front of you it will snatch the deed so look this a model Medina which sometimes some people have called each ma an in Medina

this is not each man this is not orifice like that this is Sunnah this is from the messenger of allah and if you don't believe me read goddamnit the books on a soul when it came to look they said as body yard and all these people said I'm a low al-madinah must be the man who lat mahira it must be the apparent things which the the collective community witnessed from the Prophet there is no room for each D had no room for each turn then there's a second aspect so this is the main thing of am la almudena

so for example the prophet used to recite aloud in certain prayers everybody witnessed this they then they witnessed it from them it was from the Amman that the Prophet never read bismillah r-rahman r-rahim when when leading in the press allowed it was from the Amman he never read that aloud now yes this brick so we know that if you begin prayer this is how the Prophet used to begin allahu akbar al hamdu lillahi rabbil aalameen

no did he say silently though this becomes an itch to her the issue okay this becomes a ninja Tihany because true we agree that the Amur the collected practice was he never said this aloud but maybe he said it in his mind or maybe he said it inaudibly you can't negate that I can I can I can do my HD heard I can i can assume so this second part which is the assumption level the HT hardy element is a baton to a blow Almudena this was accepted by some of

the ball daddy and Iraqi Maliki and I respect that point there was many amongst them they discussed this in normal tab a lab a hurry discusses until Hubble birth daddy even officer discusses it and all these kinda lazy and discussable for agile lazy all these people discuss this okay they from the bath daddy Iraqi Maliki ax the other Maliki didn't really like this they didn't accept them okay but what they all accept as a Hodja is the things which are undeniable are perceptible so you perceive them okay they are apparent that is am Almudena it is from the Sunnah of the

messenger of allah so when they said how was the azan done that is from the sunnah it was perceptible everybody inherited it how much water did the Prophet used to useful will do he used to use a scale cord and would that was inherited that practice where is the prophet's mosque it is inherited everybody witnessed e where is the prophet's tomb it is inherited as a practice and the Prophet doing certain things that they all that people this is inherited this this is a morale in Medina so don't you dare test

me in my understanding of the math of the method of the school of Medina Allah don't you did Allah as I said before people Janaki and rock now raise your arguments I'll burn them to the ground as dog and I've quoted him before saying that follow Cooper ah diligence a calm

me but the heavens haven't messed with this level of craziness angelica rockin Accardo toward our nominee not if I don't burn your arguments to the ground people then you can change my name but this is the point so don't you you know try to attack my knowledge of the Maliki method that's two people criticizing them right so Allah so yeah so right any other let's take some rapid questions and then we'll

wrap this up people what are we looking eyes it v only no this is because what I'm trying to say is people we see they they will they they don't like the fact that I'm Maliki right thing because they think oh you know let this is how people would let this credit him let's discredit everything let us make him an isolated target so we can so he doesn't have any legitimacy right so that's my my point that people do that okay so that's not what salons from the Cara wean are are they come a

Salaam I don't know and doing it doing it right so moral ethics yeah this discussion on moral and ethics okay I'll highlight just I'll some me something people discredit look don't discredit don't try to just put debate argue ridicule concepts I'm all with that don't begin with saying stuff like like so this is what people will do they'll begin by saying oh so he's not even a Mufti why why you gotta be like that man that's like look you're a

doctor because look you gotta study your whole Harlem course you got to graduate you've got to go through all the years get tested you got to go through you know studying all these diverse Sciences Quran top-seed hadees hadees the arabic language morphology you gotta study rhetoric falco sulfur different methods adam literature history creed theology philosophy logic we have to go through all of this stuff here in your getting tested like you don't have to memorize the quran but okay i memorize the quran as well i did all of these things you go

through that then i just then i studied the major books of hadith from cover to cover all the major book you know from hari muslim abu dawood term is e we studied massage even imagine the motto of imam ali given a chain of transmission in them had to be tested on them not only by the madrasah but by an independent board called with Farkle Madhuri's that was a then you that is graded at a master's level by the way so I got a masters for that for my daughter hadith thing beyond that then you can apply to learn how to give fatwa the fatwa thing I had to do two

years of training under which itís going to finites affair Creed things be tested take live examples issue fatwas do stuff and then be tested test it and then be then graduate and pause so look why why you gotta be like that man like why you gotta begin by saying oh by the way he's a fake like why like that's like me going to a doctor who says you know what I've got an idea how about we try this medicine as a therapy we think out of the box ha so you're you're just a fake doctor then your you know your your degree must

just be fake it's like what the hell like why do you have to begin by dismissing my credentials of course I love my credentials I mean there's the greatest thing I think I ever did in this life of mine and you know I think it's an amazing blessing from Allah so I love it so look I'm personally very nice I mean using proud in the English way very proud of it I'm not in the arrogant way but very proud of being a Mufti so I love that so it's so of course I you know I put it out there that yes Mufti because it's the greatest thing I think

I've ever done so look and it's not easy to do you know you can't just begin it is at a PhD level although it's not graded as a PhD so I think when people begin I heard something that first thing they'll do is always not a musty and then they'll just mark eyes an idiot is a clown and this is now just so you can say and this I'll tell you something this shows this when it comes from scholars it shows the deficit in scholarship now you look you can mock me like you can mock how I'm being like the guy's got this little goatee and spiky

here you could say laughing haha you can do one of that you know as or in the words of one of our friends now bill of bale of fry you can do all of that but the thing is that why you gotta first of all begin by saying oh the guys fake like as in his credentials are fake he's he does he's not even a qualified move well anyway let's take some of these questions let's take some of these questions your watch is too heavy I love

thee know I love these kind of watches with a bit of size to them you know what I'm saying these square dial said I think I'm part of a an extinct breed now I think a lot of when I was looking for squid I'll old watches I couldn't find many of them they would like discontinued it's part of whose nav nav is my stunt double you know the one where ever he goes everybody he's in my photographs everybody says oh is that his album ours everybody says and always that your brother which which has even got me doubting now so I'm thinking one of our

lineage is messed up or mixed up or something when are you going to make explaining Surat Annisa 434 oh is that the hitting verse I have explained that on Facebook before but I will do a video I will try to get that edited as well I was referring to the mutt right this thing on ethics I have said they look in my understanding ethics is Islam came about the connection between chrétien between creation and the Creator so you

got Allah the harlech animal look ethics is really to do with us amongst ourselves and this changes over time so Islam did provide solutions but they were the Afghan that came the laws that came were a social remedy they came as a solution to society not as a kind of divine the vehicle was divine but the rulings per se was simply a remedy okay so that's an example is like let me

give an example like a lot commands as a command it is fun for Muslims to take up a defense strategy a law says why I do this is a commandment an imperative verb well I do Lahoma stutter to maneuver and prepare for them in defense get get you get your defense together just in case Muslims become vulnerable or attacked by people who hate Islam and Allah says military birthday hey get this together get your horses and tie them together and prepare these things of horses now law said that in the Quran there's a

verse of the Quran today that wouldn't apply to horses you wouldn't go around like saying okay we should have a defense in this country let's get a hell of a lot of horses together today that would be a different military defense you would have tanks you would have you know fighter jets you'd have maybe start up a state-of-the-art weaponry stuff like this now why because look the objective was to get a solution it wasn't to get fixed on this word of horses or this allies but Ally same tie the horses a lie saying that he is

saying that that's true right he is saying that that's true but times have changed and Allah this was simply a remedy and the ethics like that all these things change with time not all things but several things change with time so somebody asked me look do you believe in the chopping of the hand and I have mentioned before I've got a whole video on Imam Barzani and I've mentioned that look I do believe that ethics change with time and I believe that this

is found it's reflected in the thoughts of people like imam abu hanifa and the early matter idea school I believe that that's my reading into it I know some people who are much already and they've tried to say no you know you're wrong in this you're wrong fine okay according to your understanding it's different but there is a no suley debate in the books of the Sun called about personal kuba hello Quyen that does good and bad exists only because God says it or is it something that humans perceive and some people including Imam Abu Hanifa felt that no it's something that we as humans perceive it's not God defined and the

other people in the past went with the Gemara with the with the divine commandment theory as Plato and these people highlighted in in philosophy which is there is no good and bad in this world when God says don't do this it becomes bad so basically killing someone isn't bad it's only bad because God said so I find that very naive and it defeats and if you read the Quran if you just have a general reading of the quranic completely cooked goes against this way of thinking the Quran does address you as though things are good and bad it doesn't address you like as though we do perceive things to be good

and bad if that's the language of the Quran so I I think look I don't agree so I fall in line with the fact that we can perceive this now I know some mastery these and other people have tried to interpret that differently then that's their interpretation my understanding is ethics this good bad is something we society arrives that and it continues to develop and change so today yes people we to chop somebody's hand off today would not be the solution the Sharia would mandate that you change that you would have a and and you would

have a punishment of the age now this is something that I explained that the legendary share whole Islam of his time of the Maliki ax great Maliki scholar from the 800s whose name is Allah Kozma boots Uli highlighted this hundreds of years ago and I have this whole discussion on this its own face it's on YouTube and somebody tried to refute me and then I have a refutation showing them where I read from the books that he does actually say this now so somebody asked me this is a good question so does this that today this verse of the Quran is no longer relevant so does this mean so

somebody asked me you're saying Allah says was sad I was sad if I was sad utter a lady whom I deserve and be my casaba and a column in Allah he that you know cut and the hands of punishing let's say adulterers or whatever or cut the hands of the male and the female thief and this is a punishment from God and and and so is this irrelevant today and immaterial and I think that's an a good question they've asked me that do you believe this and my answer is not at all I believe this is this verse just like

every other verse in the Quran is absolutely relevant absolutely relevant and it's more so relevant because of this discussion and they've asked me but but you you saying we don't follow this verse saying absolutely no I'm saying we do follow this verse we absolutely follow this verse in the Quran what sir if our side a part of the ho idioms or was an ear towards anybody lead Okinawa he didn't mean that we followed look what is this verse teaching what is this verse teaching first of all it's teaching that this is such an important issue that Allah has

intervened and revealed a verse in the Quran so it's important it's it's teaching us that theft is a violation of people's honor that this violation needs to be punished okay and that they needs to be justice justice needs to be served that it needs to be known that justice has been served that there can be no discrimination between the genders well sorry for certify that don't think oh because it's a woman stealing will go easier because it's a man or because it's a woman committing adultery we'll go Harsha like

in some cultures they'll punish the woman call her a you know a the Corl prostitute and stuff like this and and the man will just go no no distinguishing between the there's no discrimination between the genders okay that what do not let compassion Allah says do not let your emotions die will you away from delivering justice do not let your emotions turn you away there needs to be justice there needs to be justice right Allah says that they should be no nepotism no nepotism

Nicolle a minute why this is from Allah do not favor them oh that's you know what because he's my relative he gets away but punished that good-for-nothing no and then Allah says lady that this is hot in the Quran de okay chop their hands which is something that will happened in the day and age that before Islam even came that they were used to so the delivery of how that's done is one which we disagree in for our day in age saying that look the delivery has changed because the age has changed just

as collecting horses today the delivery of the milk of having a military defense has changed because we don't need all this today that's changed but all these are the things stand and are even more so relevant today so it is not true the only one thing that there has been a changes in in how we deliver that punishment and the delivery ought to be commensurate it ought to be from your age okay so that's the one thing I disagree that that's the one thing that

I think that today the Sharia would teach differently that the Sharia would mandate that okay this is you will today chop hands but you will do all these are the things you would still intervene there must be justice they cannot be discrimination this is incredibly important that theft must be condemned that they must since it's a violation there must be a punishment the punishment must be commensurate it must that they you cannot distinguish between genders and you cannot be swayed by emotions and you must deliver the punishment what the mode of delivery is varies with the

age so that is what I'm saying right it's not about superior you see this is another misunderstanding so people start saying also we're better than the people in the time of the Prophet no no no no no no this isn't a competition but it's that the time has changed the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam didn't introduce chopping hands off he didn't introduce this concept the Arabs were doing much worse they were killing the person they were maiming them chopping

hands feet everything off so the Prophet in the time the Sharia came with what they were already practicing but restricted to the least thing that they would accept so they would accept that so in this day and age whatever punishment today this isn't from today by the way in this is impossible but surely the great Maliki scholar who I quoted from Omer over six hundred years ago he said in his day and age should resort to financial penalties because money was the thing in his time in the Ottoman son Solomon economy the the

celebrated and well-known Muslim Ottoman Sultan who is known as Solomon the lawgiver he actually he he also did this with his rule that's why they call him al qarani because he made all these amendments to the to the Sharia in his time under the Ottoman state and he came up with things like financial penalties and also imprisonment and stuff like this is whatever you see fit in in the day and whatever the system you know the judicial system sees appropriate so whether it's things like today confinement prison you know incarceration locking people up taking away their freedom because we were in a

day and age where freedom is now so much valued you see previously it was like the Corporal thing that was seen as like and then when wealth a mumbles only said that wealth was seen as so much other thing you would harm them more you see because to those people it would harm them more to take their wealth and today freedom is seen up there and so freedom is the thing and plus there is Allah has set in San humanity on a global path where there is like a trajectory people are trying to improve in the interaction global ethics

today and as global ethics and especially ethics as we understand them has improved that so that's not to say well all are you trying to say we've got better ethics than the profit no I'm not saying that because stop referring to the profit because the profit had the most noblest of ethics sallalaho aleyh wassallam but his age didn't his age he was surrounded like in his time Arabia was punished and the world was plunged into barbarism and vicious kind of outlooks

towards life the Prophet himself had the most noblest of ethic sallallahu alayhi wasallam and this is why I've always condemned anybody that's tried to condemn the view especially of anybody that's tried to bring down the profit but the profit couldn't try to just change the ethics of this the whole kind of continent around him it wouldn't have worked it was something that if he did try just embarking on that mission he would have jeopardized the mission of connecting the creation with the creator so the main thing was the creation and

the creator this link and then the messenger of last set things in motion a trajectory that when humans will reach that they will change and with that the rulings will change al hamdulillah so that is what I'm trying to teach here that look it is not the messenger of allah salallahu alaihe salam i think in my understanding if the messenger of allah was alive today he would enhance our modern ethics and uplift them Salameh honey that is my personal belief but he was in a time

where people it was a dark world and the Prophet couldn't change everything people say oh yeah but he told people not to drink alcohol and they stopped even that took so long you have to remember that these things that look this like somebody asked today about the hitting verse even the women in the time wouldn't accept that you say to them oh that men can't hit you this is gonna sound absurd but this is what the Prophet was dealing with you know today I mentioned in my previous Q&A there was the Moroccan singer who sang this song and she she kind of said about like a

real man that you can love is a man who hits you and he created this was last year and he created a huge controversy online and and then people went around and they interviewed several people in in certain Arab parts of the world and especially North Africa I think Algeria Tunis and especially Morocco and some women were saying that look yeah like they were saying look I don't we don't condone domestic violence they weren't saying we don't condone like you know have somebody beating the hell out of you but if we've got this is their words and the interviews on YouTube and this is today in 2017 this was last year that

these interviews you can find them they were saying look but if I do something wrong like if I up on something yeah then I deserve a slap from my husband and if he's a real man he ought to slap me now I disagree with this view but this is today how do you think people were back then in a warrior society these people that the Prophet lived around there the only way I can give any resemblance to them for people to understand is like the Vikings they predate the Vikings by the way and they lived in a pure they just lived off things like raiding and and and they weren't an agricultural people they had

some agriculture but the profit Society too heavily rely on agriculture and they were just like the society around him was like a warrior fighting and they were always about raids and and death them and this kind of stuff now this thing is important to understand because that has a mindset in it now in that mindset the Prophet wanted to forbid hitting any kind of hitting and this is why the hadith of the Prophet he said in the hadith he said that I never

have hit any of my wives or a child and ever he said that and he said the best of you or the best of you to you women folk and he said in the hadith wulingyuan Arriba er o qu and if you were upon true goodness you would never hit and the verse in the Quran came you know this verse in surah and design it said look how if you have a dispute then do this then try to talk and if you can't then okay hit them but it began by saying oh if she was in the wrong and you kind of accept that I try to do this

right because the Quran was trying to come to them but then it kind of in an understanding that they would have accepted because they wouldn't even the women wouldn't have accepted anything else but what did the Prophet say the Prophet said in explaining that but if you were upon goodness you would never do that because he knew that look this is a society that rather than them you know rather than them kind of beating and so on or doing these kind of things then okay allow it to place parameters on the least possible thing that okay if they hit in an on like crazy like we said

like in a reasonable way because this is something that the men and women themselves will accept or I can try to change everybody's way of looking at the world and compromise the message but insha'Allah the time will come after these communities and so on with people this kind of culture will die out and at that stage this will be category riki Haram and this is why shortly after the Prophet and in the time of the turban een applied nubira ba the great forte of Makkah said it was haram to hit

said it's Haram and you know this hadith of even a bar saying o use the sea whack use the miswak or use it can be is read also some narrations say sherek like a shoelace people say also this is how you hit you pick up a miswak can you stop then they say why do people make a mockery of islam he said this sarcastically sarcasm this was like he was like mocking them like in a in a way that what the hell like you can like I'll tell you what then

okay use the shoelace this was sarcasm it wasn't it wasn't being real that like a thing because nobody would do that door nobody's gonna pick a shoelace and and then start hitting the other person what kind of unless they're playing some other games I mean what kind of stuff is going on here so the Prophet one so the Prophet did wasn't happy with that but you've realized the community around him won't accept it the women themselves won't accept me so what he did is he placed parameters and then he gave a trajectory so you placed the parameters

in same look nothing harmful you can't leave you can't be serious can't be bruising can't be this can't be the only like discipline in the way ok feels like this but any set of trajectory but if you were upon true goodness you would never do this and as as people reach that trajectory in ethics this will become Hollow so this is my understanding okay this is what the messenger of allah has been teaching this is the understanding that several of these scholars that have said along the way now the fact that them and this is going to come back to people will say the majority majority look this isn't

about majority okay i keep explaining that the majority of the people lived in a time when was the medieval age when they had no problems with this they just like here what the hell did beat the hell out of them this kind of stuff isn't and people use this to justify patriarchy they use this to justify kind of domestic violence this kind of stuff is Haram this is why in in in the in the hadith as well he teaches you know the I'm in the futur of many of the molecule of my father if her husband had hit his wife she could retaliate she could take him to the judge and have that's a it can

indeed get beats back then they used to obviously hate as well this is going into the medieval ages of course but yeah so this is - look what I'm saying to you people is that some people will disagree with me by all means disagree with me I'm not all I am doing you know all I am doing is with my understanding reflecting what I see as beautiful in Islam - people you may disagree with me you may think that you know these guys

you've made a false argument he's but all I've tried to see do is see the beauty I see reflect it as beautiful so now if you don't want to go with that if you don't like that by all means you know the verse of the Quran in surah can be my roofing artistry rumba esse you know hold on to it oh let it go let it slide that's your understanding to me miss LOM is beautiful and it does reflect the ethics of the age that's what it wants it does not condone these things and yes these verses in the Quran this kind of a verse it was because of

that and yes he had many things which is still very relevant but the delivery was something that they addressed that first community with because that's all they wanted but the Prophet placed parameters he guided their morals and set a trajectory that this will become her so that's my understanding people and shuttle WA I kind of present that to you in the words of the poet Jessica Gmail is a Laotian e manner told Angelica

sorry Antonia you know I've this is whoever once can take light from what I've said okay I've just what I've done is set my heart aflame and put it out there people take it if you like it or leave it Charlotte with that I'll I'll wrap this up in Charlotte well somebody's asking about abuse same thing once again abuse of all forms is Haram

obviously when you're saying verbal abuse that is things that people are saying with an intention to harm someone because sometimes even swear swearing is not necessarily under verbal abuse people sometimes in English use the f-word a lot things like this this isn't doesn't fallen but abusing somebody is when you're doing something verbally to cause harm to the other person and the hadith says that either that causing harm and there are haram a dollar that this kind of stuff must be prevented okay and in all honesty look what I'm gonna say is that I get a lot of people

contacting me about relationship stuff yeah and look you know and I've done some talks and I mean from my Q&A s there on YouTube on relationships and stuff but if you're gonna be in a relationship with somebody look what you all everybody is a human you're gonna have ups and downs and sometimes people are gonna get you know annoyed and ticked off by one another and and you know people might say things the other person might say and I suppose stuff happens but if you in a relationship you need to seriously think that if you're going to be like this like abusing the other person verbally abusing them doing this

doing this this ain't gonna work okaythis that is gonna break down and you have set that trajectory yourself so you have set a trajectory like this is it is only gonna break down I can guarantee it so if it means anything to you view if you value it then that's not the way to go about it okay you want to kind of like set it in yes I accept you know ups and downs and people sometimes may raise their voice sometimes people may get angry they may swear at each other and stuff like this but you need

to kind of obviously recognize even then as soon as you calm down you need to kind of realize freshen yourself get out of that state of mind one of the greatest things seriously this is one of the greatest things that the Prophet taught this on man and it's common sense and it's not like don't drink with your left hand and do all of this stuff that everybody gets obsessed about or make sure that hijab is like this or this he said don't get angry don't get angry the greatest some of the greatest Nazi

however the companion asked the Prophet give me something so and this is what the Prophet said so that's what I that's what I'm kind of like advice and if people are in an abusive relationship they're on the receiving end then I would say that that is utterly like this abuse is utterly unacceptable those people need to question the relationship they're in because if this is something that either needs to that needs to immediately stop and obviously if they're not doing it they're on the receiving end I get that but they need to make sure that stops all they need to leave and quit that relationship they

need to cut their losses and go because it's not on this kind of stuff that's categorical clear abuse I understand sometimes some people could say you know whatever and this is like oh we're just doing this for just doing that and for that was my advice before that look if you advice that people might say well I'm not sure if that's abuse you know haunting we'll do stuff I don't like that kind of stuff personally I would always advise people if you value your relationship never put the other person down ever ever honestly this is one piece of advice and I would say never put the other person down like don't ever shatter their confidence you know if the other person if you're in a relationship

with somebody other person doing something they start something out you know like even if they're doing it dumb or pathetic or whatever they're making a fool don't shatter their confidence ever no put people and don't feel that you know you don't like for example beat your auditory to people in a way to put them down to in a way raise yourself you don't need to do that this kind of stuff this kind of stuff breaks relationships faster than actual abuse and actual abuse definitely breaks it so this kind of stuff I would say okay and if you feel the relationship isn't working

cut your losses and go that's this is that's what the world is so with that people that some words I hope inshallah it makes sense obviously I'm just if my words don't make sense I'm only human at the end of the day as I was listening to Sagar signifi the legendary or the poet and he says he has a poem we says may Adam II who for Ishtar knew he was or that I'm a human not an angel whose oh my dear me

are Japanese art sick huh Brock appeal that today from my own reality I got sold and I just had to had to drink and he says that can't at O'Hare Conte wouldn't say gala he care that thorns are thorns why should we even complain about them Paul Anka vara Dodd Sega Rocketeer now today the crimes committed by Rosie that's what freaked me out so I had to resort to drink

so there's some words and some other inshallah where he said oh it's such darker in Alabama though she man that people say I'm intoxicated let's let's let's do a prostration asada in this intoxicated state of mind oh it's such darker a Honda man with Hoshi man Lukashenko Sarkoja is it that people say that Sadr doesn't remember God so let's fall in prostration people with

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