Monday Nights with Mufti Abu Layth: Session 110

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so in al hamdulillah wa kafa salat wa salam o allah rasool allah mustafa i body ladina Toba omame hadami tada orbit Arthur Almudena tava wobbled for salam-o-alaikum anima Salim become marhaban bienvenidos a todos running lights and people swagatam swagatam of rice oh yes I surely am doing it Sunday night I thought what the hell you know what it is you gotta be a step ahead of

the people you can't let people predict your next move that's one of these people I've read it somewhere on a meme so I thought well that's a good smart thinking that is so I thought what the hell this dazzle the people so right so what is going on what is going on the seem saying I was watching your Angeles lectures a rice cooker and much appreciated much appreciated people so what is all the fittin and facade about people let

let there be fit and let there be facade that's the that's one thing that you can always be certain of no matter what's going on they will always be fitting and facade so at least we can stay true to that so this is this live session by the way is for tomorrow on have certain preoccupations so I can't do it tomorrow night so Sanjay a cello art erotica lady hey let's do this tonight people why procrastinate I read somewhere why procrastinate so general I thought why not

act upon what I read so what the hell it's Sunday afternoon it's Sunday night people are confused I know yeah I like to converge the people you know I like to I like to keep everybody on their toes you know what I'm saying it's all you can't predict what most he will do next I'm only messing people it's only a day early what the hell so anyway there's a hell of a lot going on today I wanted to talk about are you going to Bradford sherif on Monday not that I know of unless unless there's something

happening in Bradford yeah what's going on in Bradford I know there's always some some drama going on in Bradford but what are your thoughts on Imam our sim hi let me do that you know the Pakistani you get some of the Pakistani elders when they hear some shocking news they go why stick the tongue out and bite the

tongue buh buh buh buh buh buh buh ah this is the facade going on we're going to be talking about that in my most Imahara segment I'll be looking at what is going on with our vichara Maurice a mohabbat ish camina camina ah don't

worry many lay slain in this path of love if I'm awesome won't be the first nor the last buddy-buddy so many that are lain in this path so we'll come back to that a little later on I'll also be looking at this what is this new country I mean I say new as in it's been surfacing recently about the whole Quran the Quran the Sun manuscripts kind of it's not really a controversy but

it's being presented as a controversy so I'll speak a bit on that no by sunnah I don't mean that that's an ID that is there's also a sauna apparently involved in I don't don't get the conclude you know I don't mean Sanaa the girl's name yeah it might become another controversy yeah gotta be clear but who but not okay yeah you know I gotta watch how I tread and where I walk in but luckily it's very difficult so I mean the same ah

Sanaa from from Yemen the Sena are my new scripts so we're gonna come to that as well discuss what is going on with Sanaa G over there and the whole controversy but what else first of all people what is going on what is going on how have people what what's the news amongst people what what's preoccupying the amazing people of Facebook right so boy first of all I felt the chilly winds today I'm telling

you I felt the I gotta say the chilly winds I was like it's gonna snow let it snow let it's gonna snow I know I know ah snow so well there's that what else is going on anything interesting first of all I'll take a look at your concerns what preoccupies the amazing beautiful people or Facebook ever hungry for gossip but what free occupies their

minds and thoughts and I'll also be in terms of politics people we haven't got anywhere have we with this whole brexit oh god oh god what what is what is Theresa May up to seriously somebody needs to have a word with her you know what she needs to just put it back to the people that's what I say put the vault back to the people power power to the people so what else is going on let me just bring up some of

your amazing questions people let's see what some of us have got jobs to go to tomorrow yeah what are jobs what is work live life what's life if not lived on the edge that's what I say and then I end up in the controversies that I end up in what controversy then what controversy hell cobalt Shipman a shitty journey a shitty journey which share the journey a chef

Nissa I've met chef Nissa what is it probably about was it two years ago or something like that I met him in London sure I mean I don't know too much about him but I know some people know him much better and they better people to inform you and get you in touch people like like Mustapha brings our most thought Briggs is quite closely connected so he's a better person to fill you in right so and Momo Momo is in the house Momo can also fill you in if you're

trying to reach out to share the journey right so what else people want awesome what some give me some some interesting interesante questions you know interesante thing questions what's this hahaha you just ha ha ha ha ha ha i'm from kenya abdullah samir by the way commented on my last video clip by saying i'm from kenya and not hey Stan alright by the way I stand corrected I did not know no law say no

law say I took a you know a guess took college ID I took a guess and cello my apologies my bad my bad right so what is going on people let me take some questions that you guys have already submitted people say I don't answer the questions otherwise and I'm I'm here to serve [Laughter] I'm here to do this hit'em ah you know that's hitman the special kid Mac you

know the the massage so sorry I mean the other Sigma for the Ummah I'm here to do that what else is going on what else love these Sunday nights are inconvenient for many Muslims as we just coming out of Sunday night mass from the church oh that's our good friend yes our Kasana I bought a chart in here by abdul salam the rule the rules are rules the rules are rules

Casey what is it Brahman eka high K yes on a child that this is a good year or you change in the day so it doesn't become bitter Elizabeth I'm not sure we'll be able to make it Sunday night is housework night all right but I take it Elizabeth is in the house people doing it doing it Issa Ali's confused what do you think of the Imam ask him I'm going to come back to that somebody said daddy Ernie's claim that allama iqbal said if someone wants to

see through Islam go and see in partying this one sound like blag you know with my this one sound like that one sound like blag you know well maybe he said it you know after a little night cup I'm like well sir if maybe he got a little you know he said he was a little on the

edge and he thought well okay can you talk about the 7 and 10 Canard I'm going to talk about the canard later on what's happening with a mama's boy there's a lot of concern about your mom awesome sorry I knew you couldn't miss us that long he'll know you hell no look okay see that Casey my heart beating that's my heart beating for you guys man all right so it's not Monday Robin hell no it's not can you speak about seeing a lot in the afterlife

doesn't make rational sense well the afterlife you know actually that's a good question because I read somewhere boy I came across this website somebody sent me a link to this website where some I think the ex-muslims not the popular ones but some some guy I don't know but he's just got a collection of all the the most bizarre hadith that he can find and he's waiting he's like he's like presenting them as like you know I think 300 maybe a day for the each hadith for a day of the year but in

order he's ranked them as in the most bizarre coming some people have some fascinating time on their hands so he's done this and somebody sent me a link to it so I went on there boy he's got some wacko things on me honestly but you know the thing is most of those had the utmost I think outright overwhelmingly most are not actually correct or side or but then he's because he's found some scholar who said this aji he's kind of Oh so-and-so said he and they they're mocking and you know saw the whole thing but on there there was a discussion

about heaven and somebody had said you know Christians were quite intelligent in keeping the afterlife quite vague but Muslims kind of messed up in describing it so much that it became nothing but a projection of seventh century men so hmm so I thought well that's an interesting question so why not you know so I thought well let's take a little a little stab at that one which reminds me there's another question somebody had asked about if God is so I'll read it

out actually I'll read it out involved but first of all this question heaven and it's imagery that is mentioned in Islam is this but just a projection of 7th century men well look I've already said first of all so those of you that have a chance you can watch my clip on YouTube where I speak about the description the imagery in about hell and heaven mentioned in the Quran I already mentioned that look the Prophet said heaven or the afterlife or these things are nothing even conceivable he

said that mala a non rat well there was a non semi hat that no eye has seen no ear has heard but then more importantly well aha terribly badly by sharing thought and no human can conceive of it so then this begs the question what is all this imagery in the Quran then the imagery in the Quran was simply there as and as a motivational tool for the first recipients of the Quran that's all it was I mean if it helps somebody fine but it's not actually a meant to be a

literal reflection of the afterlife the afterlife is incomprehensible so that is so that is what I've said before and I've given examples and of things like that like so for example mentioning things like shade why shade because the Arabs obviously would long for shade whereas you know if Islam was revealed in I don't know some North Europe or in I don't know Greenland or somewhere freezing then obviously speaking about the shade would be quite meaningless because to those people that's the last

thing they want so the Quran when it was addressing the first community was addressing them as a primary recipient of the Quran from them the rest of the people are by extension so there are things in the Quran that we read today that don't have necessarily the same relevance to us today but it's important for us they still have a deeper message that's still relevant so you know so for example you can read the verses about the afterlife you understand that Allah is telling you that it doesn't stop here he's telling you that there is something he's telling you that whatever it is

will be wonderful he's telling you and that they will be you know that it is worth the struggle he's telling you all these things but then the actual description and that is deployed that is used is something that was time specific more so if others relate to it al hamdulillah if they don't then that's not a literal description of the afterlife some Muslims may disagree with that I'm not saying they don't but that's something I had explained ages ago and there are many more fastening that for example when you read things like verses like where Allah says in the

Quran that you know that those people will have a gender they will have a paradise Aalto has similar to along the width of this Jannah will be as far as what the heavens and the earth this kind of vastness so many people Ladino drazi yoga I'm not sure all these people will say this is not a literal this isn't that if you measured you would know the exactly this was just there to give some kind of symbolism to people about the vastness and to to kind of encourage them so they mentioned that on these kind of verses of the Quran so just to clarify the afterlife was not

meant to be in my understanding the verses that are they were just simply motivational tools and impetus for the people that would receive itself because you see the first community were a make-or-break deal if they made it Islam maybe if they didn't Islam would have just died with them so they were the most important people and then everybody else as well but by extension so that's I hope that makes some sense and people may disagree with that that same goes with the fire you know I've explained these things that this is something and I've got a video on the etymology of the

term Jahannam and how it comes from the term Gangnam and gear Hinnom the the valley of the people of Hinnom and when Jesus had first used this phrase and Israelites in Judea and the kingdom of Judea sorry that what was this valley and what you know where they used to dump trash and keep things on fire and burning and why did Jesus use that reference and then how this gets later picked on picked up and people use it as a reference for a detriment of the afterlife so whereas the Jews prior to that had no specifics on the afterlife

okay right so I hope that makes some sense and it shed some light once again it doesn't have to you know I may not do it for all but what they'll not that there's something necessarily wrong about certain descriptions I'm not saying that by the way I'm just saying that the descriptions were aimed at a particular recipient community there's nothing wrong with the harems and hareem's of her beautiful holes I'm sure all men will concur sorry all straight

men all straight men and lesbians will concur anyway what what's going on so that's that I'll take this other heavy heavier question and that's somebody had asked and I'll explain just a brief response right okay mmm one moment one moment all right posted oh oh you know something you gotta be wary of some of these groups as

well you know you can't just open anything oh I always try to make sure I don't save things on learning from experience you know from experience so what's going on come on alright so here was a question and it's basically the old question dealing with that you know if God is all-powerful and if he is these things and if he's omni-benevolent and omnipotent and then how is there

evil and you know the whole that whole theology looking at that which they refer to in the past as a theodicy trying to reconcile these things so the question was the concept of God and religion appears to be foolish and incoherent why would an omnipotent being create anything at all why would that being then create evil why would he create Satan knowing he's going to become his enemy why would he then create humans and tell us our real purpose is merely to worship Him and blindly obey an omnipotent omniscient being why would God tell us that he really loves us but then torture and

burn those who don't love him back how can God be the most merciful yes and natural disasters that kill thousands of innocent people why would God purposefully design a reality that is hell-bent on confusion just look at the thousands of conflicting religions claiming divine origins why would he purposefully hold back evidence and only do best of his miracles in the pre-scientific era of immigrants why would he communicate with us via books and not something more infinitely reliable and trustworthy medium that isn't prone to human fallibility what

the hell people here we need that are ours clip you have one minute explain yourself that would be the perfect kind of clip to go in there okay I'll give you two minutes explain yourself so there's a hell of a lot of questions there or I mean whoa so the person had said look what is the answer and it's look I did respond by

saying that look first of all this depends more so on what your definition of answer is okay so just to begin right right so so just to try to tackle some of this response it depends on answer because in my understanding God does not provide concrete big like concrete eyes kind of proofs or things like this because then it wouldn't be faith that is in my understanding that you could

critique that you could say well he ought to but I don't I understand that that's a statement but then it wouldn't be much of a faith if it was simply you know here is it's a fact here it is everybody's got a text message from God and you know if you want to call him back you can just call him back and say is this you Oh yep it's you okay cool you know it's not really much of a faith is it it's not really the thing I want to highlight here is you know this thing

of evil if God was all-powerful if he was all these things then why would he create evil now I've explained in the past that God has not created evil okay this unfortunately Muslims have kind of and other theologians have kind of messed this up and they've blamed it on God okay the truth of the matter is that there's two kinds of Evil's that are mentioned here in this text so and this these are the common natural evil and kind of moral evil like human evils so natural disasters earthquakes things

like that the other thing is human evil so sorry with the natural they will also put things like diseases and you know I don't know cancer and all sorts is is part of that natural evil the human evil like killing people Massacre robberies everything atrocities violence all of that they're put into human evil so why has God created this now the truth is that God hasn't created it like that okay it first of all human beings have free will and they are responsible for

their own actions the natural evils are simply a system of nature the laws of nature in operation so for example earthquakes are simply tectonic plates that have certain shifts and the way the whole climate change takes place over you know over thousands and thousands of years this is all part of nature it's the way the globe has been set up to deal and to produce and to thrive it has to have nature plays in that way now human beings may have gone and settled

close to where there is a volcano for example now when the volcano erupts that's not saying well you know oh well God has done this evil that was already there in nature it was something that this is how nature behaves now some human beings reside close to that and others don't so the fault here comes from certain clergymen certain men of the so-called cloth who decide to say when these tragedies happen that that was God who did that so that is the problem that was not God that yes they are laws in nature

you can say ultimately these laws were created by by God but that was for nature to operate okay wasn't created like that it's like saying then you create a machine with a purpose you create a car with a purpose now to say well okay somebody runs somebody over in a car well that was not the purpose of the vehicle but yes people may misuse it that's from a human sight but here human beings may settle close to these things and they might get caught now one could say well okay we accept that that is not God's doing but then why doesn't God

intervene this is a different question now this is not one about well God did these things but this is well why didn't God stop the harm from hurting these people divine intervention and the system is generally speaking God does not intervene at that level there isn't divine intervention at that level at the scene level and Ickes and I accept that these are very intricate and complex kind of things - sometimes grapple with I have explained in the past that I do believe in divine

intervention but I've said that there is a strata there are layers to this thing and there is the utmost layer which is the layer realm of the apparent which is where things are happening right now and we are observing them this when it comes to divine intervention in my understanding reflects something close to the quantum realm well if you look at quantum mechanics and quantum physics you will have the Copenhagen interpretation that when you observe the quantum world it collapses so the quantum world does operate but it can't be observed when operate in operation and if you try to observe it

collapses and that's scientifically proven so now in a similar way I do believe that there are layers of divine intervention taking place but not in the observed realm like we know it's like I've broken my arm or God fix this for me now here I'm watching it doesn't work like that that's in my understanding okay so that's this thing of natural naturally occurring kind of calamities things like diseases are a result and a product of of of just life per se now you will have for example since the

Agricultural Revolution human beings because of densely created populations because of coexistence with animals because of these things we have obviously caught a lot of diseases over the thousands of years and then we've built up resilience to them as well okay but in the process many people have died but that's because these things get transferred the virus will transfer from host to host it will land on human beings and they will try to fight it but these are not things that God is doing human beings will for example truck subjugate an animal species they will kind of live closely with it then they

will catch a disease that is not it may be benevolent benign sorry to the animal but to the human being it will be mother you know it'll be malignant so and things like cancer are cell with Mal reproduction so our selves are always reproducing they need to reproduce in order to keep us healthy DNA needs to operate in that way ok the RNA things like this they need to reproduce now when you've got millions of cell cells reproducing the chances of some that mal

reproduce is also an important part of nature which initially was there to support things like evolution now yes that has a byproduct like in human beings our selves now reproduce so often but our immune systems kill them kill them off but on some occasions they can't any results in harmful diseases but this is not something by god it's not god is doing this to this person God is giving these people cancer God is Kim he's not okay and I feel that religious people have really unfairly represented God

right they've unfairly represented God and what they've done is they've thrown God under the bus as some kind of and this happens a lot actually as some kind of justification so that's that and when it comes to the human side of things you have to understand that human beings have free will and they have to have free will but the problem with that is when it's not exercised well it results in calamities it results in tragedies human beings can be atrocious um we can be you know like as

Freud said and I think well said that man is more moral than he thinks yet far more immoral than he can imagine and I kind of agree with with Freud with a llama Freud one of my favorites Freud was also a legend in his own way right so but one of the so I agree with what Freud is trying to say here and so yes human beings can and Allah mentions that in the Quran look walaqad hanok Nell in Santa Fe Sunita that we created

human and some people said oh this was in the sense of our physical appearance and I think sure I mean no I'm not denying that that human beings have you know they have capabilities physical capacities to kind of do things the way our fingers work the way things work the way our brain works yes I'm not denying any of that but I don't think that that's what the verse was primarily saying I think the verse was saying that a Sunita Queen died in the in the most benevolent of kind of manifestations or structure in terms of potential

now what this human is capable of doing is the summer that Naju that then we return like we allowed him with this capacity as well out of free will for him or her that he can be a Sunita queen who as philosophy or amongst the lowest of the law now this spectrum in between human beings kind of moved through it are we in essence fallen angels or are

we dignified apes that is the that is the journey in between I guess so I think that this this this this whole thing that is human beings who then cause these things that they create concentration camps that they create you know no species before us has ever committed genocide so to speak I mean we soul it's only hold that kind of throne of human capabilities are but at the

same time no species has really you know managed to fire them to some extent the cosmos or flown to the moon or you know created such technology and I think this is the amazing thing of in Sun so and and the poem that you know Santa Annika Derouen severan Ravi canto al alamin Akbar that you know you state that you're just a small being yet inside you is this grandiose world hidden within you as a human you know as in you know

or in the words of Aziz Mia Adam II have been easy right Oh in the words of somebody else but II could teach easy that's what in son can be can be the capability so my point here of answering this was that look and God didn't create us you know this verse is so wrongly said that you know maja locked on that mouth aleppo general insa illa liya we don't accept that they create me this accept

is wrongly translated it's that I did not create them and as a consequence they worship me it's not that I do not create them to only do this worship me that's and that's wrongly in my understanding interpreted by people so I hope that shed some light on some of these things in terms of why does did God not creates it and you know like continue to say I don't know prophets and things like this well God in our

understanding he seals the deal with the final prophet and messenger muhammad sallallahu alayhi wa sallam and i think it is testament you know it stands as a testimony to islam in that way whether you like islam or you don't like islam whether you agree with it or disagree with islam but it is unquestionable that islam as far as world faith was concerned islam sealed the deal and there was never to be after the faith of Islam a global faith to emerge that

could ever rival such such a force on such a kind of a power of faith ever and that is in my understanding a testimony to the verse of the Quran dar al yama Akmal Tilikum Dina calm the wrong on this day you shall see that you the faith will have become complete and people said does this mean rulings does this mean this does this mean that no to me stupid rulings and this and that

and Fiat and of course not in my understanding that what God was saying is that as far as the human journey has began maybe seventy thousand years ago for modern man with the cognitive revolution Out of Africa globalized you know like spreading and colonizing the earth since this journey began global and along the way I'm sure there's been many traditions and many kind of version not versions but yeah I suppose versions or perspectives of faith but now it has kind of sealed the

deal and and and I think that to me is a powerful kind of message about Islam and like I said you don't have to agree with Islam to accept that so other religions have tried to emerge but never could they ever do anything like like Islam so I know Sikhism and other some other religions did emerge after Islam but it could never bring about such a force of faith such a kind of global community spread across the globe touch the hearts of millions I think that that ship has sailed

so that's my understanding on that I hope it's of some help right so people let's why shall we move on to what should we move on to I know it's getting late and people do have work as well and I'm obviously taking questions and a lot of people are waiting shall we get the center our manuscript thing out the way first and then we'll come to the multi masala section have you watched Punisher season two I I haven't actually you know I just subscribe to YouTube premium just to check it out for a month

I don't know if that's useless or what but right so what else is going on right I'll take some questions as well but I'll cut this sonam manuscript thing yeah gaaaah whiz it come with it any other interesting turning into gr Becker are

here chai II have a Imahara right so let's look at what is this son our manuscript thing going on so okay let me give you some backdrop to all of this right what is going on well people write so well this whole issue begins with in Yemen okay so in

the 70s they were Adnan reconstructing or working on some Masjid in some US and is the capital of yep not this is not the name of some girl Sanaa this is Sanaa right so this is where the great legends like you get al imam some irony and these great people were from okay so so what's happened anyway is that whilst reconstructing or working on the dome in Sana'a they found a whole

bunch of kind of old manuscripts kind of stuck in some loft section so they've taken them out and and and it's quite common they said this is nothing shocking by the way because a lot of the time in the past when people wanted to dispose of let's say certain sacred texts and things like this it's it's very likely that they would just collect them and maybe put them away somewhere high like in the Dom in a section and and then maybe with time burn them or do something once they've got a certain amount now what happened is here obviously they've just left them

presumably forgotten about them now right they've just forgotten about them so what's happened is in 19th cent in I think 1972 or whenever it was they discovered these things pull them out they've realized a certain amount of them this varying this there's quite a few pages but there's different things but in some they've said they've realized this is the Koran ok Oh page it's not the complete Koran some people say is pretty much a lot of surah tauba there's some people have said I think there may be up to something like I think 80 pages or something like this worth by the way these are not pages

like these kind of pages these are parchments so things like ancient [Music] initially cloth like glass but it's actually taken from animal hides or animal skin that was used to write on so that was one method that people used to write on so they found a lot of these and then anyway to cut out all that story short they you know they called in some experts and the experts thought well you know this sounds interesting so they they put all this stuff on microfilm and then then there was all this long legal battle going on with the Yemeni government but anyway I think in the 90s the the German experts were

allowed to release those these micro films or whatever it was and they started to research these manuscripts now these manuscripts had a like I said verses of the Quran on them which is nothing so surprising but what when it got interesting was that they realized that these this writing these verses of the Quran they had like an like an off like a shadow effect underneath them so it appeared that beneath them they seems to have been something written before that was obviously then wiped clean and

then rewritten so the writing they have on thee is is not the the earliest writing on that parchment okay and this once again is nothing new so in the past like in Age arabia because writing was not big anyway and there was no such thing as paper what people would do is write on these parchments write on animal skin and because if they needed to rewrite something or what they would often do is wash it clean or wipe it clean and write on it again so this is common practice i mean it's nothing so unusual up until this point then what happens is using

the latest technological equipment they've managed to kind of extract the under text so the lower text has managed to be so they've used using computer visualization they've got it they've had managed to extract it using using certain lighting techniques and things like this I think they've used by ultraviolet rays and things like this but they've managed to extract the lower text so the lower text is also appears to be the Quran right now so that's all okay so up until

here that seems okay it gets a bit more interesting that the lower text of the Quran seems to be different to the current understanding of the Quran in some ways so this has become known as the Sun our manuscript and they also call it a pallet our Bloody ell a palimpsest right I believe palimpsest is what it's called as well rather so that's a document that is I'll call I

say document but a parchment that has been kind of wiped clean and then reused they call that a pollen cyst now anyway so if you see these words of being thrown around you know what they what they're speaking about okay one must be rather academic so this has had there's a couple doctor mr.

and mrs. Quinn I believe they they are called and they from their German so they had an ample amount of opportunity to do research on this and our manuscript and they've written the thesis on this then there's a few other people that have specialized on this there is a doctor female dr. Osmond Eli Lee who has done her work on this and released an actual book called the Sun aah paalam cest and she's kind of discussing she's discussing that all the Sun our manuscript I think she may have called

the book then there is a doctor solder he who's also quite an expert on this and a dr. Watters II so these are the main people who have worked on this on our manuscript they've they've produced theses that are available you can find their documents online if you go there but they are academic kind of works they're not like your everyday kind of reads so what are the conclusions so far what is this controversy so a lot of people have picked this up and saying AHA the Quran was wrong because look this was a pre Ostman this is one of the

earliest versions of the Quran and it's different to the Quran you guys have got ha ha ha ha ha so that's what seems to be going on a lot online right so I'm right guys if you can pay attention don't troll pls or just I can see some messages about some people trolling I'll just say right so okay I've right don't worry I've got the admin team on it mark and block crew are on there anybody

trolling block and blast them into oblivion right so the coming back to these so now okay this is the issue is this what are the concerns let's bring up the concerns first the concerns have been by certain ex-muslims certain Christians that we have stumbled upon an ancient early version of the Quran that muslims' have deviated from and this shows the Quran was changed and this shows that the Quran that Muslims have got today is not the real Quran this is what the the claims are ok now

I'd like to show first of all responding to this and I'll bring in some of the research from these key contributors so dr. Elizabeth Quinn she also she states in an academic way that yes I looking at this I feel she's saying she feels that the Quran was almost a work in progress so she feels that people wrote the Quran then wait time they decided to actually we should touch up on this point here then they kind of modified it then with each generation they continue to so it

was an evolving process this is her conclusion now that is not the conclusion by the way of the other expert researchers like suddely or people like odyssey or people like as mahealani who have not said that at all so right so now let's look at the facts what we do have right first of all one thing we need to understand very clearly before beginning that is that the quran has been part of the muslim living tradition okay we have many manuscripts of the quran that are very old okay

including like the birmingham manuscript that was found in bran town people right dating back to the first century of of islam now this that they found the son of our manuscript also dates back to the first century of islam so they're not sure where they putting it somewhere like they feel it may have been written anything between thirty years after the prophet - maybe it was written 60 years after the Prophet anything in between that they kind of and they've done that by dating the the actual I think it was deerskin that it was written on so anyway and there are other manuscripts

of the Quran that are also very very classic in that sense date back to the century of Islam so it's not that this is the only manuscript they found okay to start off with secondly we understand that the Quran was part of the living tradition within Islam so all communities wherever they went that was the one thing they took with them hadith was not documented to almost a hundred years after the Prophet at least okay in the whole first hundred years the only documentation that Muslims were really doing was the Quran the only thing they were really making sure that it was

taught from father to child was the Quran hence I've explained in other topics and discussions as well why was the Quran difficult to corrupt I've explained that because it was difficult because it was one it was so widespread to the nature of the Quran is it doesn't go into so much details about so many things so if you are trying to corrupt it what message would you try to put in and the message that you try to put in has to match the style the nothing of the Quran the flow of the Quran it has to go with the sewers it has to go with those verses and then everybody's reading the Quran every way they're

reading it in this Allah they complete it in Ramadan they did you see it's too widespread like it's it's a it's not a the results the investment there ain't much return on investment if you see what I mean like if you were trying to corrupt a religion the return on investment is too little here so it's easier for you to corrupt the hadith it's easier and hence I'm not saying all hadith occur but what I'm trying to say is that hence you had a lot of fabricated hadith emerge because it was easier to do that so right so these these things so far are

facts now I would like to highlight that look this at all this finding does not show that this was an evolution in prose in progress how the Quran was for example a working model that people were working on it and changing it why and allow me to explain and that is that Muslims already accept and believe this is or we already believe right that when the Quran was revealed it was revealed with some kind of fluidity okay now we don't truly understand that fluidity today except that we understand

we know from the hadith that there were different ways to read the Quran and we have a hadith that the Prophet SAW some companions reading in a certain way and Omar abdul-fattah bloody law on grabs the person and brings him to the Prophet and saved him that what the hell you miss read in the Quran and the Prophet says let him read and he reads it and then the Prophet is okay now you read what we and he says I've read it like this and the Prophet says well both are correct now and he says that the Quran is read in multiple kind of ways now what's interesting is that we know that this was happening okay so this did

happen that they will multiple kind of recitation and these are not by the way the seven recitations we have today this is not speaking about that although that could be part of it but that's not what it's speaking about and I'll explain why so look now that's one thing we have another thing we have already in our books in many hadith books in many so for example in things like you're gonna have Bihari Muslim all these kind of other bodies books tirmidhi you can have hadith where you will read that ok certain companions that there were one or two companions that sometimes would

disagree with that they would have what they thought was a correct reading of the Quran in some verses and they may be mistaken and that's not so I mean first of all that's common sense I mean is quite easily understandable but that did happen we already have that as part of our tradition so we know for example Abdullah Thomas rude or ugly alone and used to assume that that the door of promote that Allah - Tina Caronna Stoffer oka but that was part of the Quran he assumed because it had a certain rhythm to it and he saw the profit teaching it in such a

religious way that he assumed it was part of the Quran and he had it as a little surah other people told him that was actually just a door on that was not part of the Quran similarly he assumed that full of Allah had sorry knock alone pull out a bit of willful up and call out better be nurse which are known as the Mar with the team to seek refuge because they already are he assumed they were just two eyes and not part of the Quran now okay but the Companions once again told him that looked the other people that know these are actually yes they are a door but they are part of the Quran now this is

already part of our tradition we already know this this is not a shock this is like something actually well written and documented in our books there's transparency about these things that in fact if you read a map code toby's Makka tema his introduction which I also I think I have a kind of explanation of his introduction on YouTube or it might be on soundcloud but where i speak about how some of amount ought to be highlights how some of the Sahaba even they pronunciation because of the tribes they were from so he mentions eponymous root for example being amongst them and other companions that they would sometimes swap the Hamza with the hind

because they sounds him and that's like it was just like a dialectical like the tribe you are from might do things so for example in English you get some people like in the UK they pronounce the T in certain things as a kind of glottal stop like they won't say water they'll say water like the walk like that and so that's an example like in the Arab world today you'll have some people who pronounce a like the Egyptians will pronounce a jeem as a game and some people pronounce that off as a GAF like in Saudi in the Gulf and so like this

even in the prophet's time some of the tribes used to do things like that so they used to print so in imam court appease his introduction he explains this and he mentions like some of the companions for example would swap hamza the nine and some would swap a half with a nine so instead of hat they would say at B just because they they come from the same kind of position within within the throat so and this was just the way they spoke Arabic so these things we already know it's not that you know we're not saying this is like comes as a shock to Muslims so the question was

what was the of the general transmission of the Quran we're not talking about what one person may have written something or somebody else may have omitted a verse another important point to remember here right another important point to remember is you see for us today Arabic is something especially clear eloquent Arabic is something we only read in the Quran or in classical poetry even for Arabs Arabs don't speak classical Arabic in fact they don't even read classical Arabic even modern Standard Arabic which is proper Arabic but modern Standard Arabic is not

eloquent it's not it's not eloquent sorry it's not eloquent in that style I mean they might consider it eloquent for today's standards but it's not eloquent like classical Arabic now you have to understand that the ancient Arab spoke like that so when you speak in a particular way and that is how the verses are being revealed now I'm not saying they spoke as eloquently but they did speak that exact language then it's very easy for you to replace words sometimes because that is your absolute

way of speaking whereas for us today to change words is still very simple easy but it's not as easy because when we memorize Arabic we don't normally speak like Arabic like that so we're not normally speaking Arabic anyway so Arabic is only our Islamic language so it's easy to keep that in a separate mental compartment and just memorize it but for them this is how they spoke this is how they used to write do eloquent poetry they used to do so for them too time's mix upwards was much more feasible some of them I'm just saying right now just to give you a kind of

backdrop okay so with all of these things in mind okay now I would explain that dr. oz mihail early in her analysis of the Sun our manuscripts she has mentioned that it appears and that these manuscripts were most likely personal notes that some person had taken in some study circle this was her interpretation and the reason she says this is for two reasons she says is that the person first of all when he writes letters like off now off when it's written at the end

of a word it has a tail to it okay when it's written in the middle of a word it's just a round thing and carries on so chic identified that this person seems to write the off with the tail in certain words in the middle of a word which doesn't really make sense because that's not how the off is written in the middle of a word so she is so from here she assumes that this person was maybe writing it off with the half and then later adding to it like saying oh I realized that this word was like this another important thing at that CAF

thing I think is okay I think more interestingly she points out another point and this is definitely fascinating that how the person had written before surah 2 Toba now surah Tauba does not begin with bismillah ar-rahman ar-rahim so the person had written lateral bismillah do not say bismillah here so that's just a note so that's actually in this son harmony script the person had written before surah tauba now you know well that's not the Quran you know lateral

bismillah this is clearly a personal note that somebody's writing now so I would say that look with these things what we have first of all like to highlight what is what is this most likely so I feel that I'm not so sure whether it was a student documenting it in a study circle like dr. as my healer Lea said but what I think is this is definitely somebody's personal script it wasn't like I know dr.

Quinn seems to emphasize she thinks this was some kind of standard manuscript that people were sending out and there's no evidence for that at all if anything this seems to be somebody's personal script personal copies that they are writing and they're making some notes okay so like Latta cool bismillah don't say bismillah here don't do this don't do that the other thing is I think that way they've disagreed so they've made a list by the way I won't go through all the things here but they've made a list of some of the disagreement discrepancies they've said the

variations between this son are manuscript and between how we read the Quran today and sometimes words are missing like for example in one it says Allah will punish them and he says adapt and Alima like in our reading of the Quran today it says Allah will punish them a severe punishment but in these it doesn't say a DAB and Alima it just says Allah will punish them or in some it will say things like they're saying that those who do gee you know Jay I do feasable Allah those who do jihad V Sevilla B I'm worried him wonfu see him with their wealth and money and in this

verse today in that particular verse I know in a different verse it does say that with their wealth and money jaha do fees will be my leman listen but in this particular verse it doesn't say that in the Quran just says jihad those who who struggle in the path of God so so there's these kind of discrepancies and they've and a lot of these people have listed them they've gone through them so whether there's like I think they've highlighted something like twenty to thirty kind of discrepancies that they've found now a lot of them are very small just like instead of you it says they and things like this but they are words missing as well stuff like this so in my understanding the truth to this is

is one is this is most likely because we don't have certain knowledge but we can go by our interpretation our assessment that this is most likely somebody he may have been a companion he may have been I'm not denying that but somebody's personal notes so somebody seems to have been writing certain verses of the Quran for himself and this seems to be that and it seems to be his personal reading which I feel firstly that he may have been mistaken in or that may have been

his way of what he thought was the Quran now that's most plausible okay that's most likely what has happened here and then maybe a few decades later what happened is when they've started to realize because we know with earth man as well rhodiola on we know that he said that people have started to miss read the Quran so let's standardize and let's bring together the readings of the Quran and he wrote a particular script now his script is too

flexible so because it never had the diacritical marking like the dots and he never had most the dots anyway so some words could be read in different ways so for example yeah my loon could be read as that malloon so because there wasn't the dot you could read it as that or yeah like yeah Malone that Malone that they are act what the actions they do or the actions you do that it could be read like that and this is all part this osmani reading is all one reading of the Quran even with these variants okay it's not so we do accept that there were

other readings that have then gone that they were in the time of the Prophet how they read certain things we have that in our tradition but we know that one main reading was locked into for people to be transmitted an earth man he took that endeavor in saying let's lock it in so people get confused and it's easy for people to read now even how he locked in and still had room to read in different variations now this is no hidden knowledge this is transparent knowledge Muslims have been saying these things for ages I mean it's written in all our books and it's very

clear so the seven people say the seven ways to read or the ten ways to read certain things they're all part of this one way so far they're working hard we highlights that okay so just to he highlights that in his math soul by the way as well and in his other books so now this is just to be clear about this so this under text of the Sun our manuscript was most likely somebody's personal notes who thought that that reading was how it was and most likely I feel that he was mistaken why do I feel this this is most likely what I feel the plausible response the second response

is that it may also be it may also be that he was not mistaken but this was a way to read those verses of the Quran that he learned from the Prophet it could be that this was a way that was then locked wasn't the one that was locked in it's possible but I actually feel it was more option a it was the fact that he was most likely mistaken why do I say this and by the way in some of the in some of these discrepancies it may be the second thing it may be that some of the discrepancies were the the kind of

fluency of how to read but but the first but some of them like when he missed out words I think that was just his mistake as in he thought that because remember language it was their language they were doing a lot of other things as well and and and it's quite it's human error so that's fine and we have hadith telling us that the Sahaba sometimes some Sahaba did miss read certain verses it's you know like we all miss read verses today you know it's not it's nothing so huge and remember they were memorizing and they weren't just sitting down students of knowledge all day they were people that were in campaigns military

campaigns fighting for here traveling the world they were people just sitting with the library behind them and saying well oh you know let me pull this out I mean I've memorized the Quran and if I read the Quran today from my memory I'll make tons and tons of mistakes you know I'll need to revise and revise and revise and and make sure that that's natural you know it's not but so I'm just saying I think that's the most prudent the second thing it is true it may have been that the it was another reading that was locked off and it wasn't locked into when was mine locked in the recitation as to this being an

evolution of the Quran as mentioned by dr. Quinn and mentioned by some ex Muslims and Christian evangelist and other people as well and why do I feel that that is absolutely wrong apart from obviously this is going to be biased because I'm Muslim but why do I feel that if we look at the discrepancies let's just look at them if this was an evolution in progress like somebody decided because dr.

Elizabeth and other people suggest that somebody decided to change it right so and especially some of the X Muslims have suggested this and some Islamophobes to have have mentioned things like the some of the Companions purposely decided to change the Quran why do I feel that that's absolutely false is let's look at the discrepancies the discrepancies have no fundamental they bring nothing they they don't do any change you know oh Allah is aware of what you are doing allies aware of what they are doing it makes not I mean if I was trying to corrupt the Quran I would try to corrupt

it with a powerful message if that's what they were trying to do just changing it by dropping a word that still Allah is gonna punish them and lets us say they drop the word a severe punishment it doesn't like that doesn't change anything because in the other verses they're still saying that so it doesn't really it doesn't really show any purpose like any propulsive purpose serving kind of alteration like if somebody was trying to manipulate the Koran and surely they would put in a good message to manipulate that they're trying to get across by changing it with

these little pronouns like I changed they are here Allah I said Allah knows what you know lies seeing what they are saying and here I said what you are saying hahahahaha I changed the Quran I mean that's that's a futile kind of effort because think about it people who are trying to let's say they were purposely trying to change the Quran that was a life-threatening risk that lets us say lets us be real if this was what they were trying to do why if they are gonna risk it they're gonna risk it for something so meaningful like to get a message in the praise their gods or or do something or to change it with these like petty little differences

is meaningless so to me that doesn't hold up at all okay so with that just to summarize that then I'm gonna give a little conclusion in summary yes we acknowledge that the manuscripts do demonstrate that these were from first century Islam they do demonstrate that there was an under text and an over text they do demonstrate there are discrepancies they also demonstrate that the discrepancies are not so huge as in they're not actually they don't derail the message in any way right they're not that substantial right they also demonstrate that most likely these were

a mistake that the whoever wrote them he wrote and these were part of his notes why because they use words like like I said notes like don't say bismillahir that sounds like a very personal note the other thing is this may have been it has some potential that this was one of the writings that was then not locked in sorry one of the readings that was not locked in it's possible although I don't believe that to be the stronger interpretation so that an in conclusion I want to add here this also you know in a positive spin to this I want to show a positive spin to this which people

haven't really this actually reaffirms for us that the message that we've been passing generally down the generations has been accurate because you know there's many Muslims many people who've said for example the Quran was actually invented after the second century of Islam it disproves them there's many people who have said all hadith have been fabricated but it proves that in the hadith we showed a said in certain hadith that certain Companions used to make mistakes about certain Quran

certain companions wrote this that they used to do this and that was true the living tradition told us that was man had actually to to get rid of people's a kind of debating and whatever decided to lock in a recitation now this is part of our just historic stories but yeah it's true then because it shows that there was and that they seems to have been locked in or people have tried to work on it it demonstrates that they were these things were not fabricate because some people have said Muhammad was not even a real figure and his companions didn't even really exist and people

afterwards made them up but it shows that that actually so these things have been true that Muslims when they said that there was a Quran and it was there in the first century of Islam it proves that it said that when Muslims themselves said in our own books that by the way that there were various ways of reading the Quran it was true that Muslims themselves said that certain companions did make mistakes and you know we're going to be honest about that but they went with a majority reading that was true Muslims themselves said that certain in the time of Earthmen people started to argue and disagree an

earth man tried to take strategic action to lock in the reading of the Quran it shows that to be true so it shows that there is you know even those there are I'm sure there are many hadith sometimes that have been misrepresented and are not true and things like this but it shows a lot of the in tradition the living stories and things like this that have come down have actually held you know throughout the ages and they've conveyed significant truths like we're seeing this with modern day technology now revealing and affirming the stories that we've only been reading for decades so I

think that's an amazing spin on this and it shows that you know Muslims have been transparent and how do we covered up these things then it could have come as a shock so okay I hope that's of some help and shall I answer some of these questions right so right people in shovel are so any other issues you can reach out to me I will what I will try to do as well is go through some of these in some detail but there isn't there is nothing so substantial to go through like I said the biggest one I could see was the drop of one word like a severe punishment and things like this

what I said those who do jihad with their wealth and their lives like okay he had that you know he claimed to have had that word but he didn't exist in in the in the modern-day reading or in the current Koran that we have but then we know that those wailings do exist in other surahs of the quran so it's not that it doesn't exist in the quran but just not in that surah and so it's possible that the person was reading put it there because it's a common way that it's read in the in the other verse so these things do happen okay right folks let's let's move on what else have we

got shall we move on to let's move on to this abuse issue people or I'm just trying to bring up something here as well right okay so right so what's been going on what's going on people what's going on mayhem always controversies huh right so this basically this Omaha's is in the house do you get most people do you get females creeping into your

inbox oh I'm not that lucky as these Imams right so what what's going on people right so we get right let's I'm gonna also bring up these some of these statements so let me just fill in some of the details

[Music] I'm just bringing this up right so people let me fill you in with some of this what's been happening is apparently there's been an expose there it's been an expose of Imam I mean he's not a man now I suppose people are saying making a

point of this but anyway Imam awesome awesome Husain I seem saying am i mixing up the cynic I'm pretty sure it's awesome Hussein who was from I think Bradford or he may have been Bradford in London I'm not sure now but anyway it's a young young Imam best known for his mo lead war debates see if you remember the molded war between him and Dawa man I think that really took Imam asked him to some heights but he's quite popular did some kind of I think very fiery speeches for the use on stuff

like gangsters and that kind of stuff you know the usual anyway so apparently he's being exposed for having been being away tonight in you know with with a few with a few females amongst to I don't know why but this is this name Sanaa not that's another so now I think there's a few and so recently share a cerrar has come out and made a statement and and I

think chef Sahib Xiaomi has made a statement or some other people have made a statement about we held an emergency meeting emergency cabinet cobra meeting yeah chop up choppa choppa choppa Miskin oh no no it's an emergency meeting at cha cha what's the so wait there I'm getting ahead of myself so what's actually what's the incidence so there's been some clip of some girl reporting a sorry highlighting a case okay

the girl in the video clip is not the the alleged victim but she's reading out some messages from this alleged victim so the I think in that particular clip she's speaking about a girl who is a comfort to Islam and she's saying well this convert is saying you know well I got close to this scholar and you know I went to his talks on Molly than I did this and did that and and then he started to do the naughty naughty area hot hot Posada the hundred sleeps you

know sometimes so he so she's saying well you know and and and then there's been some other people have done some kind of Facebook statements and and some people have said oh my god he mom asked him did this and then this means this kind of report I've read I've read part of it by I don't know if it's the same girl or if this is a different girl I don't know yeah variety is the spice of life I tell you you know what we would we be without variety I tell you II we need them right so anyway I'm not sure

if it was another girl it might have been another girl so but she's saying oh like basically the same kind of thing that he's been chatting to me but what were on a side note not that I want at first of all first first first of all we look we condemn abuse everywhere any of any forms of abuse condemned condemned week you know once there was this like it wasn't a Mimi was an act I mean it's made in for me but it's an actual poster of somebody you know in Pakistan there they demonstrating oh and he said you know about the USA intervention said we try and say we condemned it we condone

this just a small spelling mistake I think I think some people might be reading those things that you know we we we - we condom we're supposed to be condemning they've been condom Inc look it can easily you know spec make mistakes guys not being fair to dyslexic people you have to understand the spelling mistake can happen it can look thinner

Muharram same with rainbow Nadia see like one dot turns the word matram that means a close a halal acquaintance into a mujrim into a criminal see one nocte ik neuk 10a Muharram same with limbo Nadia hum do Alec theory dois Buddha's are parted see dua is da I've been making praise for the person they've been reading it with a dot da da which means like betrayal toka deception

yeah it could be a spelling it could be a spending but we first of all just to clarify we condemned condemned we condemn all abuse ok so all of these everywhere that said I gotta say some of these allegations stories sound rather interest rather like hmm I'll tell you any alleged victim that first of all only goes to a publishing house instead of the police I think the police station is that way not the publishing house so but anyway look

what I'd like to say if there's ever abuse clear abuse if it's criminal report it and report it to the police you know police free fun 3/4 report it to the police guard damning so on a side note this the girl apparently one of the things I've read this is what the girl was saying that Oh he messaged me to meet him privately in a car a few roads away so I went there I sat in the car and he stroked my face

hi romanced ok note stroked the face I'm sure I saw Sunday that do that once so anyway so she so she says so she felt uncomfortable Philip TK TK that's wrong if obviously she doesn't not everybody

wants their face stroke yeah you know if Connie stop stroking my face now I'm trying to speak curry sounds like her as a rather uncomfortable position to be so obviously she was very in hot rightly so rightly so right so so now she leaves but what I don't get is then she says I met up again with him privately and then I think a bit of the but too much my tomorrow my day there was a bit of the

friend so there's a bit of the kissing you know it's going on but then she says so I was upset again and they know and then I met him again see yah yah yah here I what kind of a victim oh hi she repeatedly meeting him privately then I think the next time I think you know the oh the hand slip on the leg yeah yeah my hand keeps slipping yeah it's after after control this far so

anyway I want to say look what is this repeated oh you know I felt so bad yeah I thought that was so wrong and then there I am again in the car again you who can I why don't such naive blessed people why we do we meet such nice do you have to go I have to start doing mo lead events to meet such people I'm joking I'm joking only way I I grace I digress but

look any abuse reported reported don't keep going back yeah Nick don't hear it all what are you searching for right dope don't go back Oh report it report so ok so anyway there's some been some hanky-panky going on and right so now share a sorority as our Sheikh assir haha you're our beloved beloved right so he has been involved right so they held an emergency cabinet

meeting know what is made they said it's for the sake of Islam I even even Islam probably like well my honor even the angels were probably like whoa what's going on what's going on is it is it the end of times what's going on so there was an emergency cabinet meeting held by some of the the top the top dawns of the the the people in the upper elite

circles the Molalla of the bravery community so so amongst them apparently in this meeting was share sake be ami Lua who it says didn't speak much and then there was a mom asked him and then there were some other people in somebody's then a detailed Facebook report of the meeting by the way and shitless a cerrar has then said in this meet awesome Hussein admitted to the offenses and evidence presented before him and as a result the following conditions were

put into place to prevent further incidents occurring 11.1 I'll same Hussein is to refrain from all forms of social media until permitted permeated by who Mark Zuckerberg oh no oh no rather by share a surah okay he is to utilize his time in seeking knowledge and developing

himself spiritual you know he needs to go to a proper toddy shop he no wonder daddy so sorry son says nanny yeah say hi Nick hallelujah Jose I say Mukul oh yeah is it Moo kumbaya say ha ha right so this is only the karasov effect number two he must praise 5 daily

prayers huh what praise 5 day I mean one Allah commanded it but now shake Assad has commanded it aside but to aid in this a brother was appointed to monitor this daily and report back [Laughter]

somebody has been appointed to monitor I assume these five daily prayers and report back to share ah yes come to me what news do you have so you majesty he he was late with his novel prayer today yeah yeah okay Wow what is going on here what is this what are these 12 steps of the Alcoholics

Anonymous and having a sponsor having a monitor rather so this person is to monitor Assam Hussein's five daily prayers and report back on everything was he standing straight was he he has to report to show us or our number three he used to look for a spouse as a priority I think that's what he was already doing I think he was already looking for a spouse come on that's so used to look for a spouse as a priority

yeah I want to get into that cat number three haha how do we line up for number three shake us a lot can you get us in that line as well as a priority you know as a priority [Music]

number four he is to refrain from any contact with muharram women I love it you know what I love he is to refrain from all contact if he approaches a shop and there is a female shopper tenant he must at that point distance himself immediately and vacate the premises for he is not to make contact under any

circumstances with a female but then how is he supposed to look for a spouse his easeful supposed to look only within his mushrooms huh that's them yeah are we supposed to be playing those games well yeah yeah which came 30 sup some cool quincy guidance guidance I'm gonna don't worry I'm in a message cardi sub 4 what's the guidance but carries up says meet him on the other

road in the car after me and he said wear some moisturizer on your face massage my face yeah katissa that is so awesome Hussein categorically agreed to these conditions and repented he must seek refuge with Allah the Almighty you must seek refuge right oh he will strike down upon thee with great vengeance right

repented for his actions it was unanimously agreed that any further incidents of improper behavior or breaking of the four conditions will not be tolerated and necessary action will be taken look I want to highlight something here first you know something people don't know this but this incident by the way is allegedly sir is old this incident is allegedly about two years old okay

so and this girl that came to report it they apparently shush her up I think right hunka hunka be cover hey yeah I heard that some carbon this is obviously I'm here I - I'm behind the scenes you know behind the curtains remember these things reach me as well so this incident has been going on about two years ago why the sudden announcement now and since this is a matter of Islam the

honor of Islam was it not the honor of Islam two years ago so why not raise it when it happened why shush everybody up hide the details agree behind closed doors to certain things and then release it two years later acting like it's just happened I don't know whether something else has happened but my point is the point the point let's point be at their point but let's get to the point right

the point is that look this kind of stuff I want to ask something look let's be consistent let's be consistent if we're going to condemn abuse and say that this is which first of all I agree we should condemn abuse I agree we should but first of all I don't know whether in this incident there is abuse or not because the one letter I read was about the girl saying how she was in love with him so that didn't sound like I don't know that what I've read didn't sound like a beast that just sounded more like she was upset with the rejection that I think he wasn't gonna marry her or something and obviously the

steps his romantic steps up to it she was upset so whilst the main thing is the camera gotta be careful now so the so we need to condemn it condemn abuse but tell me I want to ask something you know share the sorrow all these other misciagna you telling me they don't know about the abuse going on in their local merchants you telling me they don't know I refuse to believe this one this one

not lies they know I guarantee you they know I'm so certain that they know about the abuse going on they you know what they cover up this is the problem and I mean clear-cut abuse I don't mean like this Oh like she loved him and he loved her and then oh he didn't love her I don't mean this kind of stuff like whether it is abuse or not I don't know but I mean clear like bTW physical abuse sexual abuse I mean actual very clear with molestation stuff like this that they are you know

unfortunately the Muslim community that you know is unfortunately riddled with this kind of nonsense and this kind of despicable these kind of despicable crimes but yet people they all turn a blind eye they don't investigate the message it's they don't call out against anything going on in the mush kids they don't call out against certain top Imams where there have been actual crimes like where people have actually gone to the police I don't mean they just gone social media people have gone to the police but they will just cover people or their what I cover up they will just

turn a blind eye like oh we don't want to get involved they'll say you know because he's got a following or he's like this and I I don't want to and I just think like what the hell like they should be consistency and somebody said on that post that all because they felt threatened by Imam our Sims popularity I don't know whether that was the case but somebody wrote that on one of the things right so and now I think Imam awesome has made a public apology not to say that I'm not by anyway don't get me wrong I'm not justifying his actions by

any standard but what I'm trying to say is I think first of all these people what kind of policing is this this is stupid we have a police force for a reason they need to say look if somebody says if somebody comes to you and they say look somebody touched me or they did this you need to tell them look go to police then because they will conduct a detailed objective investigation not your own little oh you must pray your five daily prayers and somebody will monitor you you know and are you doing

the Moodle properly and you know before the although there is this thing that lo tau is half empty when you took it in you know I'm not so sure you know these kind of things you can't become no bloody Taliban you know like we're going to investigate people's private lives are they praying properly I can't I forbid you I forbid you from entering social media I'll be too gonna yeah you don't know bloody court they can't be imposing your version of the Shelley young people you think the

Taliban you know so I think this stuff is just ridiculous like trying to import yes if somebody's done wrong then you ought to say look go to the police well you ought not try to cover it up to start off with right by saying don't worry we're because this incident is apparently two years old so they've been covering it up for two years anyway so I don't even see you know this like oh we've been covering it for two years but now we're gonna announce it because the honor of Islam what honor of Islam then I think in the actual statement they just said I think there was somewhere in one of the statements are saying well

unfortunately this was the will of God I thought Shabbat first year committee this was all that was left let's throw Gordon to the bus as well the only thing left now was just God who said well while you've got a long list row God under this bus as well well you know this was the will of God know me God did not say set those fingers for God did not say conduct these ridiculous dumb councils of yours or these kind of religious

policing that you're doing God didn't say do any of this don't blame God for any of this blame yourselves LUMO and fossa come right you guys are to blame so and then I would say be consistent you missed you know cooled out wherever you hear it you know don't just be like oh he's got a following I'm not gonna you know I'm not gonna call him out I'm not gonna you know I you come across cases people say things and wait they'll say old is allegedly such-and-such beef sub and and you know and such and such B sub and this has been going on and this has been going on but now nobody will come forth

because you'll hear that people have been threatened and and and in some of these cases they have gone to the police and I say well done if if there is abuse then go to the police but my point is those people who come up as you know like mullah omar of the Taliban we're gonna hold our panchayat and in this panchayat this panchayat decrease but you must pray your five daily prayers you must not go on Instagram but you must find a wife but you must not make contact with anybody not related to you

I don't know what is happening now what is happening or is tension tension tension tension need like a head massage I need curry shop to come and give me like a head massage and this was the most immersive LA so I just think look it's embarrassing to see this from like people like cher has rod I you know to act like alway conducting these investigations investigations

are so first of all these are silly outcomes it is so and if this was so serious you should have highlighted it when it happened not sit on it for two years and then highlight it as as like a tsunami just broken out and then thirdly come out with a dumb solution like say pray your five daily prayers so I think all of these things seriously need to be addressed and people need to you know people need to also be very you know it's already some

of these you know this to me nice so many people lay slain in this part dr.

Kitchell taenia are so frightened people need to in all this the Imams and all this and and you get people by the way you get loads of people that somebody else do you ever get messages oh no I don't actually I get a few catfish now and then try trying trying but the thing is I think in general awesome has been I think he's I think mean slaughtered now on social

media I think he should just marry that girl that was in love with him that would be a kind of like a weird twisted but but a kind of love story he could say hey I'm back he just leaves a glove that that could be symbol like a glove but yeah so people table Oscar naked or bikini Rasta tea for us

najin unique humor but Kahala hi this Romeo Romeo Hobbs our Romeo this this game too dangerous not too dangerous so people whoa which 12:30 right it's been awesome you know may Allah make things easy for everyone I think you know we need to obviously I think you know what there is there is a big issue

with people I think finding relationships and doing things like that there is a big people I've yeah I just I forgot to say I've even made mother halal for you guys yeah yeah yeah I've even made or camp whatever you had what else do you want still these low level games behave all this what else do you want now but this on a serious note I think there's there is a lot of difficulty in in most amongst Muslims finding relationships

doing things like this I think it's it is a very difficult tricky situation you know it's a slippery situation you know slippery slope right but they can go to these websites I think I think I don't know which ones to recommend because to be honest with you I'm sure they've got we're weird people on all of them but I'm sure if you're sensible about it look if you're trying to hook up with somebody and he comes across really weird like in a conversation you're

saying so what do you do and you know it's like sticking a finger up your nose or you know this one bit weird you know I think I think that's time for a sharp exit time for a cool sharp right so I think in that case you know Tommy you don't need to repeatedly meet the person just take the hint this are no good you know this one and I think but there is a crisis I can't see there is a crisis of people trying to find relationships and I think you know with the day in age

social media people only and this young young young learn dear mother they starts to run it's like speaking once to somebody and I think she was some kind of I don't know whether she had a background in science or or not background is in worked in science or something but anyway she or she worked with maybe lab reports of blood reports or something like this anyway but she was saying that how I knew that my

husband was cheating so I said well how did you know that it's always good to ask you know you need to get tips you need to make it take pointers a cha-cha-cha how did you find out so you know always note to self beware of how did you you need to make good notes yeah he said it's what zalem done yeah yeah so both poppies and sorry doesn't let you be need to you need to

take tips from other people so so I was like so how did you find out so she said well I knew that his blood levels show that he's got high testosterone he's got normal tea sauce so if he's not doing the jiggy-jiggy he's not at home you know then it must be outside cat eats the honey

I liked it I thought okay so whoa but you hear some interesting story you know when you ask people I always ask people how did you find out so they'll tell you all kinds of things you know I I planted a bug over here a recording device I I got into his phone every time you're like a child you need to up the defense mechanisms [Laughter] no no joking

goodness if I am was all self it's nothing but patroller deception kuch nahi save I am muscle cell for every day car his in the Geeko knee higher gypsy oh that I have seen this world up close and near it is nothing but deception sub Maya hey sub mile so so I I always just begin by saying well all men are dogs

that's a disclaimer I'm joking right so anyway people is being awesome and and any Ark sessions yeah we should do an arc session inshallah coming in Feb less to an arc session so you get an opportunity to enough not next week I think the week after let me have a word see the availabilities and things like that in case something else is going on so maybe in two weeks time we could do a live Q&A from the arc in the rock going down people going down so guys you shall lung caner I think we

should call it a wrap it's gone half midnight I'm going to do a world tour yeah I could do a world tour begin with what Las Vegas then go to only only the key places only the places that count [Laughter] now I mean why not well tour why not why not of course of course I think it's I think it's this is it when the time comes for now inshallah any issues reach out to me people by the way Facebook Messenger is

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