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Blasphemy in Pakistan and the Case of Asia Bibi -Mufti Abu Layth

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oh we take a look at this Asya BBK so right so people there is a bleep storm that has erupted in in the in Pakistan not even the Indian subcontinent it's just Pakistan people and let me give you the backdrop of what's happened

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a lady by the name of Ashiya Bibi who is from Punjab from a place I believe she's from the surrounding villages of is it called Nana class Sahib or I believe it's the same place where Guru Nanak was from I believe I could be mistaken but she's from Pakistan and she's a Christian and allegedly the she has

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blaspheme in the this is the claim against her and some of the the movies have gone mad in and they've in just crying for her to be killed and this this is this kind of crazy outburst an outbreak that is taking place in Pakistan right now right yep so none karna Sahib and is that I believe that is the same place I could be mistaken that that is I thought Waco Ronan across

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from nevertheless right so this incident it's sparked fresh kind of rouse and protests and mini riots and vandalism and things like vigilante hunts and all of these things because recently the Supreme Court of Pakistan

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acquitted hacia baby from any blasphemy charge and said that there is no evidence that can stand to prove her to be guilty that the evidence was simply inadequate that was the ruling of the Supreme Court of Pakistan and she was free to go this was after she served an eight-year sentence in remand were awaiting this kind of trial so she's been so she has been sentenced previously by certain courts and then she appealed and then the other Court found her guilty and

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then then it was appealed against and eventually it's reached the the ultimate court in Pakistan known as the Supreme Court and they ruled that she's actually innocent and the fact that they said this some of the movies completely lost a plot they they made public speeches people like you've got you've got Harding Hussain rizvi you've got is absol Audrey I believe I may I may be mixing up his name but you've got some of these people from tarik ella bache in

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Pakistan and other movies as well they took to the streets they they made public speeches where they declared the three judges of the Supreme Court to be careful they declared them to be watchable uttal that means they must be killed must be by commandment of God not just these movies they became the mouthpiece for God for a few moments and

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they declared these judges and that they said that there's no way the Supreme Court could have done this without the knowledge of the army so the the Chief of Army Staff General budge wah him as well he's a kaffir they said Imran Khan is a kaffir he's a he's a Jew so they they make they they pushed him into the the Israelites the keys at you and these four are watchable uttal

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so not only do they want these for dead but it appears God God wants these four people dead obviously the fact that God can do it but obviously in this situation can't he wants these movies to to do it for him so considering that one of them is disabled that's not the best person for God to deliver his message to I mean it's you know if God wanted

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really this job to be done I mean is he gonna really tell somebody that can't really get up and go and I mean because he's disabled so it's not really the best conduit for God to make contact with to say hey I need you to get up and go and kill so that's a bit of a bit of a divine comedy going on there so this is this is the situation now these guys made public speeches saying that these people are washable

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pattern and that the government should be toppled I mean I can't believe the audacity honestly I can't believe how these people can get away with that that is sedition that is I mean and these people are politically motivated calling to topple estate incitement to violence incitement to extremism justifying vigilante murders in public rallying people to murder people in public I mean how are these people still just

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roaming free I don't what on earth is getting on these people are absolutely the huar edge of this day and age this horrid ism of the past was a it was a mental illness that these people have okay he was it was not a a sect it was a mentality and then they've they've gone into certain speeches and Imran Khan Ali actually think in all honesty I think I shade his speech his speech was really soft it was incredible I thought I

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thought it was too soft I was kind of slightly disheartened at how soft it was but I can understand the dilemma he's in because naturally these people are saying that oh why don't you come and kill us come and arrest us we're gonna we have we're ready to die we're ready to become martyrs and and this could just plunge the whole of Pakistan into a civil war so I can understand his dilemma but he was incredibly soft he'd you know that they they should have been immediately arrested all of these people

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and they should face they should be imprisoned for that nonsense calling declaring people yg will utter that God has made it an obligation to murder them how Wow honestly and this so this is what's been going on recently so now so and they've now asked but there's been some discussions afterwards and now they've said that there's going to be some kind of appeal that they can do to the Supreme Court the Supreme Court has

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asked bring your evidence now let's just pause that thing and talk about for a moment what what are the laws by the way the laws in Pakistan these blasphemy law in all honesty are not Islamic per se as in they don't come from the Quran and Sunnah there is nothing in the Quran or in the established Sunnah that teaches you that you can kill somebody for

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insulting the Prophet there is nothing now there are I want to clarify certain things that I'm not saying I'm not saying that scholars haven't said that so scholars have said that and I say that at the forefront was the the Maliki school and this is known so it's not something I'm gonna shy away from and say that well I want to be very transparent here the Maliki meth lab was in and I'm talking about in the past I'm

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talking about in the medieval ages was one of the most harshest schools of islamic law when it came to blasphemy so they the Maliki mother but I am a Maliki so I don't vary away of the rulings I'm much more aware than these so-called hanafis that claim that oh we understand and we're taking this from the Maliki method they claim to be taking this from the Maliki mother right so the Maliki might have had this ruling now really this was what falls

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under kind of like a siesta to Sharia a kind of and you could say an Islamist sized a political ruling that is that is laid out for certain you could say as a deterrent in the past it was laid out for whatever reasons that you can imagine there were multiple reasons to to serve as a deterrent to kind of to extract people that they thought were kind of spies spying on the Muslim Muslim communities for the enemy states

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it was also too naturally it was too silent any kind of criticisms that people didn't want it was to do that as well and quite frankly why other people didn't challenge it because it did because why because they saw it as it doesn't bother us this is in the past okay in the medieval ages this is not from the time of the Prophet this is not from the Quran or the Sunnah but it was a ruling with in fact I accept it was a

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ruling within faith but there were many rulings within film there was the rulings of slavery they all accepted slavery in the past they all accepted these things let's take a look at the Malik is today look at countries like Morocco which represents a lot of the Moroccan law when it comes to the actual Islamic law in Morocco is still deeply rooted in Maliki faith it is actually clearly Maliki feck they actually have a the Majlis aligned they have their alma disel a Malala day

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the supreme Elmi council that comes up and contributes to Islamic law within Morocco on things like family law or on inheritance matters or on divorce and things like this blasphemy right now even in Morocco they will recognize things like blasphemy to fall under breaching the peace now this is not a separate law and in Morocco it does not carry under Maliki today Maliki rulings it does not carry capital punishment

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they do not murder people for insulting the Prophet they do not do that and that is the entire Maliki fokaha they are they this is the contribution so when these people try to quote molecule a man they haven't got a clue what they're talking about right so I just wanted to clarify that the other thing is that the Pakistan is a Hanafy country it is based on Hanafy thick the Hanafy thick from the offset from the time of imam abu hanifa said there were no blasphemy laws very

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clearly there were no blasphemy laws in and they are none in the hanafi madhhab the Hanafi books of law do not carry any they do not carry blasphemy kind of punishments like capital punishment like kill the person and do stuff like this yes it could fall under breaching the peace so I accept that and that could fall under in any country if you breach the peace and you start creating certain a certain amount of turmoil or certain matter balance and general discord amongst the public that can carry a

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sentence that does exist in Hana Fifi okay does exist in all phix exists in secular law as well but we're talking about blasphemy law okay so I just wanted to touch up on this point that that Pakistan is based on Hanafy v Hanif 'if it does not have this law that you kill somebody for blaspheming Pakistan introduced this right some people in Pakistan introduced this and they reinforced it in our recent past okay this is not something from long before

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in Hanoi FIFA and things like this and all of these movies today trying to say you should kill Oscar BB or so on so forth or not speaking in line with their own method which by the way they believe it is haram to leave the hanafi madhhab so even a B Dean writes in his photo book liya Hill it is not halal to give the fatwa by any other method except ours and you have people like curly and all these scholars say that any opinion which is not the opinion of our people

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is either abrogated or it has a and interpretation and that is very clear the hanafis are some of the most they are the most strictest meth lab you have they are the strictest mother people when it comes to blindly following the method and it is haram for they declare it for hanafis to leave their mother and to follow another method and the irony people like musty talk they have an entire book dedicated to why that lead Kiesha Hesiod that why it's Haram to

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leave tuck lead leave the matter and yet on this issue Mufti thought they will say oh it's okay we've left the method because the government said it so it's okay but then the government said oh she's not the girl I mean the court which is what the law of the government they've said o us here B B's and guilty and they and they say well oh no well you know what we're gonna hang her and we're gonna do this and and by the way when the law say something else so the law in Pakistan says that well you can't say three the locks as one sorry you can't like if a person says three two

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locks that will not be counted that's the law in Pakistan yet Mufti Totti and all these people they don't accept it and and I just listened to yesterday a speech uploaded on YouTube by mosquito t saying the reason we accept this blasphemy law is because the government has instead today and whenever the even though it's against our method but we go with this because our because the law of the land has stipulated so we accept it as though he's saying oh we don't want it but it's which is not saying by the

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way he's saying we do want it but so this is just to clarify yet on all the other issues that the law of Pakistan Islamically in ready there are Islamic rulings like on palak you can't give the lock like this you can't do this you go they reject it they say we don't care they say that's you know that's nothing to do with we're just gonna follow Hannah v-fib so that's to make this clear okay now I want to just touch up on some of the evidences that these people have been using so these people have and then I

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want to come back to come back to the case of it right so about what she actually said in fact let's go to what she's actually said first and then we'll take a look at the evidences now here's the thing what I've read and I've listened to some of the interviews online her family's interview and the other people and I've read online you see what seems to have happened is about eight years ago she was picked on in her village and this seems very plausible this seems very

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plausible the hacia baby was picked on for drinking water from from the village well because they said you ain't a Muslim so you have polluted and contaminated our water now by the way this this belief of non muslims contaminating water or making things nature's making things impure or in order to believe making things now Park does not exist in Islam in Islam as a

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human being you are always pure you do not make things impure that is a Hindu custom okay that they have certain low castes and the low caste the untouchable the uh truth they can't kind of you know if they if they touch a glass you're not allowed to drink from the glass hence you see it in India a lot of the people whenever they drink water they don't actually even they don't even touch the glass with their lips and stuff they actually just pour it in because they're so used to that that the whole society has been built around people they're not allowed to share

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stuff like that because certain people are impure and so on this does not exist in Islam yet they said to her that she is they said she's Marathi and you know whatever you know from the true rock home and this and that and she's non-muslim and she's a kaffir and so on and so forth and therefore she has polluted the water now this led to a fight between her and these are the ladies and this is very plausible and this is the what I've read of the

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details and I've heard in interviews now what's happened is this fight then later on was continued in which those ladies said to her so it was back forth back forth you know you this this this you impure infidel kaffir bla bla bla bla bla you bla bla bla bla bla it's back forth back forth and then when this argument has resumed they've told her I tell you what here's a solution why don't you become Muslim embrace

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Islam and we'll call it quits okay so everything's it's cool you can drink the water you can do all this embrace Islam so she said she said that why should I embrace Islam what has Muhammad done for me this is what I've this is what I've come across in terms of the interview they then said oh my god how dare you insult the Prophet of

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Islam so they beat the hell out of her they dragged her they attacked her home then this matter was ignored for I I believe it was five days nothing happened then they told the local movies the local this because it began on Saturday and then he went all the way to Friday on Friday the local movies gave some footballs and speeches and incited the masses rallied you know gave they walk rise like kaffir insulted our prophet right did all of these things

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they then gathered a mob rallied a mob took the the mob to her house dragged her out beat her up beat up her daughters I think they roughed up the husband as well they they said she's insulted our prophet so then they said let's kill her and so they brought some guns to kill her but then some person stopped them in the village and said look don't kill her just take her to the police call the police and let them

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arrest her so the police were called and the police actually rescue her then from this mob because they come in and she's being beaten slapped dragged her clothes were ripped her children they kept her daughter they a daughter was crying for water they didn't give her water didn't do these kind of things beat her up the police come extract her and say look don't worry we got this they take her away now what follows is this there's a few versions some of these people turn up and they all are witnesses the problem is that all of the testimonies

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are drastically different about what's happened about what she said about how many people were present I mean like such an example is one person said they were 100 people there when this incident took place of blasphemy another person said yeah there were about five people I mean that's how drastically different and these are people claiming to be in the actual witnesses so they've witnessed the event then what she said they've added things like somebody said oh she said this about somebody saying no no she said

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this right I'm drastically different I mean totally different stories of eyewitness accounts alleged eyewitness accounts so what happened is the police originally kind of kept her she just said look yes yes I'm sorry I'm sorry now allegedly she owned up to saying to blaspheming this is the the version she said I was disrespectful and I'm sorry now later on in court she said I was only saying that so I could say I was sorry I just said yeah it was my bad I'm sorry but I

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didn't mean it was my bad as in I actually said those things I was just being beaten up so I said these so anyway this has then eventually now reached the Supreme Court who've taken a look at the evidences and said are you having a joke I mean now you having a laugh this these stories are so irreconcilable that they've dismissed the case and she's been acquitted acquitted but this is eight years later so that's the whole kind of backdrop to this whole case I want to say that this case has really demonstrated how we as

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Muslims are so insecure Islam which came as a mercy for the world we have become so blood thirsty Islam came to protect the rights of people we like people right now these people these movies right now that are having these fits and saying that we need to execute hang hacia be behind us here baby for God's sake let's just stop for a moment if she

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said look if she said what has Muhammad done for me this is allegedly this is what some of the the accounts state that this is what she said but in all honesty she's asking a question like what to her as a non-muslim what has his lamb done for her it's done nothing and who is that a folder of who is at fault we the Muslims are at fault why is Islam today just so mutated we it is our fault

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why has Islam fail the people it is our fault people are quoting hadith look there is a hadith where the Prophet speaks about towards telling of over time where people will insult their own parents the Companions asked that we are a soul Allah that will people insult their own parents and the Prophet said or does a person insult his own parents and the Prophet said but when you insult somebody else's parents you are just inviting them to retaliate which in turn

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will make them insult your parents which means you are the one in essence who insulted your own parents I mean you didn't actually do it but you set it into motion so when these people blaspheme if the if first of all that's not even blasphemy but even if they do like let's say there are people in in the world and I'm sure there's many who do insult our prophet who do insult Islam who do insult God whose fault is it is it God's fault is God at fault no

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we are at fault because we have set the whole thing in motion they don't know anything about Islam except what we portray to them so like people don't know anything about the Prophet Muhammad sallallaahu listen except what Muslims have told them we tell people oh yeah our prophet said this our prophet did this our prophet did that then people think well I don't want to be a bloody Muslim so today all these people and another thing is I feel in some ways these

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movies are doing this to kind of in some twisted way to stick it to the West I feel that they kind of that HA in our country we will you know this is what we will do which is so stupid it is so stupid and I want to take a look at some of these these hadith by the way this I was watching a somebody sent me a link to to a hadith somebody sent me a link

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sorry to a Q&A done by some mallanna I don't know who he was but he was being asked that how can you justify murdering somebody for blasphemy and he quote a hadith in sahih bukhari okay now the hadith that he quotes is to do with capital Ashraf now I want to highlight something apart from the this certain is Nadi questions to do with the chain but I want to ignore them for for now I want to go on the fact let's just take this story of captive myself there

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is an incident in Sahil Bihari with the Prophet sent Commission's a whether it's two or three people in essence but these two primary people he Commission's to deal with captive not Ashraf and they go and they kill kappab not a chef now the question was why did this happen so they trying to say that the reason the Prophet killed capital Ashraf was because Cabramatta have insulted the Prophet this is what the molvi said and

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this is what they use so whenever you hear these people be very weary okay be very weary because kabooms not a sheriff was not just your regular kind of person he he was a very powerful figure that had a huge not only following and support power and influence and he was using his power and influence let's take a look at what the Hanafi great scholar but Rudy Nalini who these hanafis are supposed to be following what does he have to say

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about this he highlights in his book on the toll carry a commentary on sale Bukhari under the hadith that he highlights under this hadith of capital a chef also under the hadith of when the Jewish people were insulting the Prophet so there's a hadith a famous hadith that the Prophet was walking with Aisha and a Jewish person comes past and instead of saying as salaamu alaik he says a samurai like that death be on to you and he said in a kind of like a sniggering

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manner and being funny about it and the Prophet knew what he said and the Prophet just said what I like and he and he walked off and Aisha says to the Prophet do you know what he just said and the Prophet said I do know what he said this is a famous hadith but the routine or any commenting sorry in his commentary on this hadith highlights that this demonstrates that it is not permissible not permissible to kill somebody for insulting the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wasallam because that is the hanafi madhhab

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remember in fact that is the method of the coffin of imam abu hanifa of ibrahim a mockery of sophie an authority of all these great imams that was they met him and that is still the matter in the Hanafi fake books and he writes that and he says that this hadith is a clear de lille and imam bukhari seems to be on the meth hub of abu hanifa and the KU Fein on this issue hence he titled this this chapter that if a Vimy if a person living

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amongst Muslims attempts or presents or all manifests certain Swizzle insults against the Prophet and under that he has this hadith in which the Prophet does not take that Jewish person to account right now now he mentions now listen to this line he says that as two people saying that this was because cabindish refused to insult the Prophet he says al Joab Shahada kuleana lam

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yahkum bima Jarrah disappear disobey him well in a Meccano own an alley he what and he says well yet my own namond you Hari buna who now listen to this this is the most important thing what you say to whom our world bazaar and even our bus and Abba Eban abhi might nada Yasha Quraish Marley octal the Mali dimensions

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miley octal member nickim sovereign vocal allahu baku freaka after i Iike allah rasool allah allah allah allah allah allah equally him let me akuna minal edema volcano mushrikeen nihari boon allaha wa rasuluh he says that they did not kill these people like horribly ashraf because of insulting the Prophet but because they participated actively in the war against the Prophet with the people you hurry bounnam that they were participating in war against the Muslims

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and the prophet and he highlights that there were many people ie highlights there were many people who insulted the Prophet and they swore to the Prophet and they even harmed the Prophet in he goes with the incident although personally I don't believe that to be true but all these people do that the Jewish lady who poisoned the Prophet he say he gives that as an example that the Prophet did not retaliate and she actually poisoned the fact that those people who can beat silk they insult God

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who is greater than the Prophet they insult God by saying God is a statue or God is these Oh God can't do that Oh God for example God has a son as the Christians say yet you are not allowed to say well oh my god you've blasphemed and Allah doesn't say that in the Quran to say that these people who commit shirk kill them or take them to task he doesn't say that and that is God that is people attributed insults to God Allah says that they both done they insult to him is so huge that the mountains could

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collapse in the Quran Allah says yet yet Allah says tolerated have agreements with them live in peace if possible Allah says this in the Quran he doesn't say anybody who insults me kill them and that is about God himself and yet they're saying oh well yeah okay that's fine but anybody who switched to the Prophet we're going to kill him even though the Prophet throughout his lifetime Allah commands the Prophet

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farfel unhung forgive them was fine move on like let them be like like turn like be gentle to these people this is what Allah guides the Prophet with he instructs the Prophet the beach and the Prophet obviously throughout his lifetime throughout his message was going to face a lot of insults he was gonna face attacks he was gonna face assault he was gonna face a lot of harm throughout his journey

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the famous story of like the Jewish lady that would often try to insult the Prophet and these kind of stories we've heard since we were children and yet when the Prophet would look out for her that was the true embodiment of the hadith that the prophet salallahu alayhi wasalam said in a hadith that yeah you're nice innama and our metal murder all people not Muslims oh people I have been sent as a guiding

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mercy and the verse of the Quran in surah al-anbiya wa ma arsalnaka illa rahmatan lil al-amin we have sent you as a mercy for the world for everybody which sent you as a mercy for the Muslim for the kaffir for the mushrik for the atheist for those who insult you for those who love you for those for everybody so to say that the Prophet is not a man what kind of a mercy is that

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and you know every you know these hadith every single hadith that says that the Prophet said whosoever insults me kill him Mansa benefactor are all fabricated there isn't a single sahih hadith there isn't a single Sahib then there's another famous story by the way of there's a story that you've probably heard of asma bint Marwan or some people spell spelling as asthma with an iron salt some people spell E as asthma with a leaf seen but either way they spell it

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both ways but a smart been to Marwan alma shreeka that she used to insult the Prophet and the Prophet commanded that she was killed this is a fabricated hadith fabricated hadith okay do not follow these these kind of rewire our trance meeting by people like Kelby who everybody about hurting Buhari mom everybody rejects as a transmitter BAE Hattie said that this is mah this consensus we don't accept the narrations of al qalbi these are the kind of stories that these people have

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circulated they these are false narrations there was no incident of this asma bint Marwan this does not exist and there's another famous story that goes around the the hadith that it comes often in the tafseer under the verse philau arabic allow me noona hata you hug him ooh caffee machete Robina home that by by allah date will not believe until they do not accept you as an arbitrator amongst them in their disputes there's a

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story that apparently allegedly two people had an issue so they went to the prophet and the Prophet settled and then they said well oh let me go - lets go Ruth on ila Omar in Abu Bakr so they went to a burqa and then they were happy and they said let's go to Omar let's go to Omar now they went to omar and umar radiyaallahu unsaid what's going on and they said we went to the prophet and he said is that so he said yeah he said okay mechanical man had Raja alaikum he said why didn't just sit here until I come and he went him

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got his sword came out and killed them and then the Prophet this reached the prophet and the Prophet said I can't believe Homer would do something like that and then the verse of the Quran came down to support Omar this is a lie people this is a lie there is no sahih hadith like this at all this story even even a Cathy rings this and he highlights that this is muscle and it is life it is life and then he tries to bring he says yeah there's another by the way there's another rewire from Mujahid which

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is once again muscle it is not a connected Senate it is not something sorry it is not a hadith that is acceptable so I'm clarifying that there are no sahir these but these stories we've allowed them to become so common that they have now come back and stung us and because these stories we've been hearing them since we're children people have been saying yeah but Omar did this really along and out of the love for the messenger of allah and you see they use

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emotions like love manipulatively they use them they use them wrongly to say well oh this is for the love of the Prophet no it isn't no it isn't for the love of the Prophet the Prophet never ever preached bloodshed the Quran says that if you kill one person it is as though you have killed the entire humanity that you have wiped out humanity that's how grave it is according to God

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this is how grave of a crime the enormity of this crime in a hadith the Prophet said that I will always have hope for you in the afterlife so long as you do not commit murder that is the actual hadith says so long as you do not have blood on your hands that's the actual honey today these people have become so bloodthirsty these you get these people saying oh this kind of this whole mission hanged Ausiello hanged

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what kind of an impression of Islam is this lets they are not right they are not right let's just say for a moment if they were right let's say which they're not but I just want to bring to a point there was in the time of the Prophet there were two incidents that come to mind one where certain people had perpetrated certain crimes and they ought to have been taken to task and the Prophet said that people and he said to

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a Shea's wife that look people are so new to Islam what will people say he they that what will they say and in another narration he says that if the people will end up saying that look Muhammad kills his own companions like is that what you want this message to end up us because this is what people will say that look and and on the other issue that when he was to do it something virtuous like redesigning the

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katha by the way originally was that wasn't gonna cause harm but the Prophet said you know this is gonna cause such an impact that look let it be so based on this these people even if they firmly believe themselves to be true which they they are not there isn't there is no truth to what they're saying but even then right the the damage that this has done to Islam people are leaving Islam

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in the hundreds and thousands throughout the globe I can tell you seriously people are leaving Islam because they're becoming so disheartened is this all that there is about Islam is this all that is left just people so bloodthirsty now what's so disappointing is they they seem to be kind of vindicating themselves by saying oh this is out of honour for the Prophet and and we are all united on this so you

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will get the Braille V's the do Bundy's the al-hadith and you know the irony this you know it's it makes me laugh I watched a I watched I mean I saw several interviews and clips and listened to things online there's a multi-part ik Masoud there was a Musti Tati there was other people what's so funny is that musty Tati who is a respectable figure and I respect him in general he was highlighting that okay there shouldn't be any vigilante

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killings but when Mumtaz Qadri and this was uploaded only yesterday on YouTube he said but when Mumtaz Qadri killed the governor of Pakistan for questioning the blasphemy laws he killed him because of his love for the Prophet and therefore they can't really be any retaliation because his intentions were good Wow honestly I was so wowed by what he just said even worse was this Mufti

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Tarek Masoud or I might be mixing up his surname he said and I did share it on Facebook that if you see somebody who is blasphemous to the Prophet you don't even need to report them he said I'm taking it upon myself you just killed him there and then and he said that and that there is no blame on you like that you are ordained Islamically to just kill them Wow let me just brain in a reality check here people do Bundy's themselves are

48:43

deemed bloody gustaf they themselves are deemed blasphemous they themselves are accused of blasphemy the Dubin da Kabir like Maulana a charlatan sob the stuff he said about the prophets of Allah I live Salim about having knowledge like an animal or what difference is his knowledge and that of an animal what the aura of a madman or things like this what that's not blasphemous and what do the Braille be same Pakistan they say that the biggest co-stars are these people are the open these so they say that these people are

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kaffir the open desert cafe or June Imani phobic Arthur and whosoever doesn't accept he too is a kafir this is what they say and what do the so if some in that case this move T Tariq if somebody just kills him for being blasphemous because he supports the Deobandi a Kabir or somebody just kills his family and and by the way the annual

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hadith consider the railways to be apostates because of the ship they do the grave worshipping and asking other people so they consider them to be mushriks and murdered right as one of the senior al hadith scholars are there was a post on Facebook by chef Kosh if speaking about how when he spoke to a senior hadith scholar I need any names him in Pakistan who who said yes we believe that Braille weaves are apostates and then he was asked for why don't you open me say this

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he said because they outnumber us so well wait a minute so then they mushrik so they can kill them and and all of these consider Wahabis to be careful anyway because they say the wahhabis believe in a God that lives in a space and stuff like this and and the Wahhabis are cafe so they're just all kaffir everyone is just Royal Rumble just kill anybody what kind of nonsense is this in the name of God that oh he's Caffe leezak they already have the old lady gustar to each other they all this

51:17

is just so stupid so stupid I can't believe that you know it's it's nice - it's that stupid that he you think that this you know you couldn't make this stuff up you could think that no way this couldn't like you've got the Bundys going on about yeah we should kill the Gustav Heye the do Bundy's the gustas themselves like I don't know K and you've got brill he's going on about like and and I think this is just some stupid kind of competition rivalry to

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show oh we to honor the prophet more than you we will call for the death of so-and-so as well and I think oh it's what and you see the problem is amongst all of these this has really stretched the divide between the regular Muslims like the regular ngon movies that the masses in countries like Pakistan the middle classes the upper cloud even but the regular middle class is the regular kind of people it's created such a

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divide between them and the religious kind and this divide is just getting growing farther and farther apart and the hatred that is becoming entrenched in the hearts of the of unfortunately Muslims towards the clergy and towards then by extension Islam is so detrimental and and it's almost losing my voice here it's a so sad to really

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see that honestly I so I had to really speak about this oh god it's not really a laughing matter but it's so disappointing that these people what they've done to the Dean seriously they no longer represent and there are some very good movies out there there are some very sincere people I accept that but all of these that are

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going online there are social media this is seriously it is nothing but drama and these people what's worse is what they the damage this is causing Islam and Muslims and how its distancing just the international community including Muslims from Islam it is truly in my understanding a betrayal to Allah and His Messenger and this team okay so

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that's that's my my two cents on that

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@misc{abulayth-o9fXU8cFmWA,
  author = {Mufti Abu Layth},
  title = {{Blasphemy in Pakistan and the Case of Asia Bibi -Mufti Abu Layth}},
  year = {2018},
  month = {11},
  date = {2018-11-10},
  howpublished = {\url{https://muftiabulayth.org/r/o9fxu8cfmwa/}},
  url = {https://muftiabulayth.org/r/o9fxu8cfmwa/},
  organization = {Mufti Abu Layth Archive},
  urldate = {2026-11-01},
  note = {Auto-transcribed, may contain errors}
}