Monday Nights with Mufti Abu Layth: Session 134

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bothering the awesome fabulous people of Facebook ROP zindagi mahouka what's going on in taking the lives of these amazing people what all this what are our thoughts what are some questions those of you just tuning in like you know Presta like you know this one and press the share you know the share this on this facade and fittin is - Cesario that we spread this oh yeah

so some people saying ah they missed me I missed you too i raha bill fight waita we've got a quote about the Olaf I straight away if I can get back verifying my zindagi continues oh ma ha ha ha somebody on Facebook is struggling people with

loyalty and disloyalty and verify hi hi hi in the words of but for us the Barker Nicki or became a state a for us Najjar named Hobart kqk Alya this is the this this one not nice you know this one so we've got some tragic love stories going on between Allen

Facebook oh they they may not be love story yeah why am i assuming it's not like me to be a some to be just judgmental in this scenario i io to allow people to expand on their own circumstances Allah Allah sometimes you see every if you think about it people everything it's in your mind it's how you see things you give things value you give things you devalue

other things you you associate emotions with certain experiences with certain things with certain people you everything is in the mind Allah as the famous Arabic poet says I'm Tanika German severan what he can towel animal Akbar you know you claim to be this small entity this why why I'm doing that I've got no idea yeah

Shari Kelly it could so much meaning yeah no law saying no no say but you claim to be this small entity yet within you is this great cosmos people Allah and that reminds us of the words of the legend of the or to language meat that they need who says in a line of his in a poem famous poem of his okay do GPA but nahi man hassle that this is not

restricted that they st. you that you ain't the one doing it dude he Pierre book naman hassle he's addressing an idol here but we know that when they used to use the term idols they were referred like an actual statue but they would refer to obviously goddesses of beauty some doctor oh yeah to women obviously in they nowadays in political correctness we have to say they were referring to they non-binary they could have been it could have been non-binary doesn't even have to be anima it could

be in anima it could have been a statue could have been a he she they it but in their time they were referring to women so he says to G he been a he a but man Hassan Sesay Homme neige pooja who da cardia ba ma he says it's whosoever we devoted ourselves to in worship it became God look at the just just getting to the depth of what me toxaemia Saab is saying no

this this Wow that's a way to begin people that's a way to begin with me that he Mirza did you memorize jazz area now I didn't memorize just need to come kiba's oj you know if i did something useful in my life that would have been calm ki baat so many keys nahi yeh mera Torres in the guinea Allah as Joe Neely assess that I

didn't even speak about what was ever important that what just wasn't my style [Laughter] what else is going on what else we've got people tuning in click like click share people spread let the fitting and facade you know I came across somebody forwarded to me a sound clip an audio note presumably something being transmitted or transmitted might as well be because it's all it's it's like an

infection but something that may I don't know whether it's viral or being shared across what's up so it's a voice know and somebody warning against me la la so I played it it's just a show and if the person doesn't even say I was waiting for something juicy something yeah coach ma's it da you know something with a bit of masala and the person just says oh I have to warn against this guy called Abu layth because Abu layth is a

great fitna and Abu layth is he's you know he's far away from Islam and he's on Facebook and he's on social media and he's teaching people and so I have to warn against him so I'm thinking all right get on with it could tell us something bigger me good so you know with your getting impatient but you you want to say with respect so you're like punky just like kindly bark just bark it out for us please

so I'm thinking could you want kids oh say you know say something but nothing just oh this person he's a fitna you know we should warn against him don't ever listen to no no don't ever listen to him so I was like what a disappointment and that was it that was it I was like yeah come on I'm worthy of a bit more of a refutation than that

these people are making my standards go low you know this is this one not nice why do you put dooba dooba says why do you put on chain and earring I thought it is haram for the man to just put on doors well I mean maybe if the man just put on the earring and the earring in the chain and not put on anything else

then it'd be the Haram like well I'm here with the earring and the chain and I've got nothing else on but in this case it's perfectly fine my dear friend don't worry your your your kind soul it's okay

there's a question here what do you think of the statement of abnormal Auto be a lot old model adds lemon lishala always I think is it meant to be a more billets or a Berlitz other that don't sound right but uh no idea of not come across that statement but if it's more than that then it means like those problematic philosophical issues that that are really difficult to comprehend and although that means muscles I doubt

it you know eight hundred years ago or nine hundred they were worried about muscles I just doubt it so chef a cerrar is a lion big lion yes that one big lion you know big lion my friend my beloved share a Syrah speaking of Shaffers rrg so share the Syrah somebody sent me a clip of not a clipper they sent me a whole I don't know

whether it's an interview or is it a discussion but it's with chef ostrov and dill dill burn the same so they were who saying who runs the five pillars the Muslim version of failed abortive Muslim version of the email so they're having some kind and I'm just you know more than anything I'm so hungry I'm just so amused by by the kind of amorous

relationship going on here between these two it's like yeah forget everything else what's going on here how are these two one you know nutcase his book the Hadean we've got to conquer the world global Caliphate Osama bin Laden my share the other a Braille V it's like Oh Cara

drama you seem getting right so but they seem to have kindled a spark nice this one night this one oh ma no no ma I never said ma I said oh ma my connection very much Oh much the OMA is is meeting each itself so it's so they've got some kind of a discussion which honestly with all due respect this

the monotonous speaking style of my beloved sheikh hasan it's so fantastic if you wanna fall asleep it's like a monotonous hypnotic trance level so yeah where anyway somebody kindly sent me if you forward it to this point they're talking about you so I said alright then speak of the devil and he shall appear

so so I had a listen and they're basically just speaking about debates do you feel they ought to be room for debate and sure sir are is saying right that he told me that he can have a better debate with an atheist then he can with me and he can have a civil dialogue with an atheist but yet I can't be civil with him I thought a weap are you playing deja vu with us yeah because if you recall I was the one that

actually pleaded with you to have a dialog and you refused to have a dialog and I've got it on camera the whole thing was recording I was begging you that look please let's just have a diet let's have a conversation I know we will have the indian-style debate I talk for the ten minutes you talk for the ten minutes I said look let's just have a conversation no no I I totally don't get that and by the way off-camera when he switched his camera our camera was still on but his camera was off he became really cool and chilled out and started

talking and so and now he was saying well you know he told me that I don't have the ability to have a dialogue ha ha d cat humper attack mother ya habibi so a dialogue of course a dialogue would be awesome I'm all about dialogues the problem is these guys are not trained to have dialogues they don't know how to have a conversation I mean in front of a nun like he said oh I've

had a dialogue with a non-muslim he hasn't even they just turn a debate style he's just Gandhi and spoke and the other guy spoke and because it doesn't matter really because all the the people watching are just his crowd so he doesn't really care but obviously if he's gonna have a conversation with me he's worried that he has to come out looking strong like he has to otherwise you know he's gonna be humiliated or embarrassed or yes so anyway uh I think

I'm always here to talk but it's gotta be a dialogue and the problem is these people can't have dialogues they don't know how to they just have to shout have to I have to win I have to win this point and it's like relax yourself if you're confident you should be able to just say yeah quiz me I'm confident I know what I believe in so if you want to exert a belief on other people then you should be confident in saying yeah sure ask me about this whatever you like now right

what else is going on people that reminds me well we've had a very pleasant meter with with video vids and hair assault on those of you that remember I had a dialogue with Hari Sultan of via on YouTube via Google Hangouts and that was in order to and it went on for several hours well how does hold on is in the UK he's visiting Europe and so he's in the UK so he reached out to me and I said well definitely pop down yeah come down

don't worry bad and so he came down video veyts as well first time I met many events although I was in touch with him but we not actually met yet and we had a nor some evening as always not live and unrestricted people so basically I've been compromised now

joking I'm joking so he was there and he did a bit of recording as well first he was just off camera just chitchat jokes humour things like this I think it was a great evening it was it was really awesome to me to chat and there were some important things that were discussed as well to do with Muslims non-muslims X Muslims how do we think somebody said what's the deal with you and Vince I don't know what's the deal what is the deal I mean

he came down we had an awesome discussion dialogue I think maybe about 40% of it was they was recording so they recorded they made the videos and they go into edit e and then they'll release it I'm sure but the rest of it was obviously off cam as it is always that kind of humor is just way too much people I can't if I put that kind of humor out they they know everybody will be like though everybody would just

become like from the motor team so yeah so we can't obviously true we can't expose ourselves but yeah so but there was some really interesting points that were discussed amongst them I'd like to share some of the the points the highlights and this was on camera so it was recording there was a thing about well what do I feel what is my feeling or attitude towards ex-muslims and I said look I think that ex-muslims

is it's an inevitable phenomenon it's something that you know whether people like it or don't like it it it's there it's part and parcel of the world in which we live and it's growing in fact just today somebody forwarded I haven't got it on this phone because I'm I've got one of my devices up here for YouTube life those of you on YouTube by the way if you want to ask questions you can just pop on to Facebook and ask him there now there was this a billboard that's gone up in America I believe today and it's part of

a new X Muslim campaign and I think it's their first major promotional campaign and it was it's got it's this huge billboard with I think there's a bunch of people on me and they seem to be kind of Hurdle together and laughing or whatever and and it says godless fearless ex-muslims or something like that I might have miss quoted it because I don't have it in front of me and so this is part of the coming out campaign right

so and I think there's going to be a lot more of these now I was asked what do I think about this and I said look to me Mike these things don't bother me personally at all in a negative way I mean if people want to be Muslim if they don't want to be Muslim to me that is the personal choice I don't believe that Islam is obsessed with their with their faith so the way I see the Quran is

quite you know it's it's it's it's very secure with itself addresses people Musharraf Aleut minmin Chafee luck for it says like graphic Dean but to be in a rush to minify it addresses people as in this is it if you want it take it if you don't it's up to you if people don't want to be Muslim to me we should never force them to be Muslim that would be going against the the core message the integrity of Islam so and as far as what

should our attitudes be towards X Muslims I feel that our attitude should be and I said this there as well and I've said it before should be one of communication should be one of having bridges it should be one a human connection look we've got to understand that people that take these decisions they take them because of something okay something has happened so with some of these people there's been suffering with some of these people they've had

religion or maybe some not good interpretations of religion imposed on them and they became fed up to some of these people they've had they faced what they felt was like a theological dilemma that it doesn't make sense to them and they've asked often they do ask certain mallanna's and people like this who fail to answer them so they get so now they think well that doesn't really make sense to me so I'm gonna leave like it doesn't and they

feel compelled to kind of like abandon or live a lie and often there are answers and I said look I feel I'm very stable very secure with my own Iman I don't feel that I'm not insecure by anybody asking me anything about Islam look I mean I may have the answer to your questions I may not but to me Islam is a faith that is that is based on reason and I do I advocate for the primacy of reason and I don't feel that Islam would ever fall short in providing

an answer that said I do feel that some people's interpretations may fall short but that's their interpretation I don't feel it's Islam as a whole and this is where we sometimes create a problem as Muslims because we narrow and constrict our interpretation to be the only interpretation of Islam of that particular issue then when that interpretation fails we face a diet we

face a crisis so that is what I feel is in my understanding the you know a response so yeah so I said that and I now maintain that and then some people have said so this followed on to another question that Harris of thon had asked me and I'd like to share it here as well he said look many people when they be comics Muslim they get persecuted so the response to this is that we need to

normalize apostasy or ex-muslim Ness in order for people to accept it and so I encourage people to to kind of come out that was one part one of this statement which is his strategy his thinking and part two he said looked in order to normalize that the the the freedom to question faith and the freedom to blaspheme that some ex Muslims have

encouraged blaspheming so it normalizes it so we had a little discussion on this and I I said that look I disagree I do agree that human beings have freedom of speech okay I recognized that there is a caveat there is you know propriety issues they like obviously you looking at your context you will speak with sensibilities and sensitivities I I understand that but that aside I do feel that there is freedom of speech and if non-muslim so if people wish to satirize

Islam or Maki or make fun of it I don't feel that I wouldn't like it as a person because I'm a Muslim naturally you know I won't like it but I feel that they have the freedom to do so I don't feel that Islam would say oh my God why did you satirize me kill them kill the Kafar I don't believe that that's the approach of Islam I do feel that they have that freedom to do so although it's not a sensible thing I would feel that a critique is constructive it's better you know if you want a critique Islam find that positive if you just want to take

the mick out of Islam you know I feel that you it's not that you have that freedom but it's it's kind of it's a very way of going about things and I and I mentioned that look if people blaspheme openly and you just encourage blaspheming like let's all insult the Prophet Muhammad sallallaahu Salaam let's say if they're this kind of a campaign see all that will happen is you will just obviously you're going to

offend millions and millions of people around the world now many of them are suffering from their own issues because Muslims currently in this day and age are on the back for Muslims are in a very kind of you know that they are not receiving in there on the back end of of what's being done on to them so many countries they're being you know that they're impoverished they've got poverty issues they've got other issues internal crises civil war you know you name it around the world Muslims by and large are going through a pretty rough time

now these circumstances create a very disheveled mindset like you're not going to get you know what a person is like let's say Kashmir what's going on in Kashmir right now you've got your complete above you know they've blocked off all communications torture beating harassment killings you know you could look at Burma you could look at the Rohingya crisis you could look at Yemen right now what's going on you could look at other parts the Middle East Iraq Syria Palestine obviously a lot is going

on now my point of saying this is these people are not right now in a very healthy state of mind which is understandable that when people are going through stuff they're not in the most you know they're not in at their optimum to to have oh oh I understand this is your freedom then they're not at that state you basically speaking to people who by circumstances are a mob state of mind so by doing things like blaspheming you're going to enrage a mob who will

then do things in retaliation now then see like they may attack you they may lynch you they may do something and which is wrong to do that they they they should attack you they shouldn't do these things but people will because that's the current state of mind now if if you're going to provoke them in that state and they're not the most apprehensive of the kind of reactions and they you know hurt you or they do something and then that's going to be a confirmation bias for all X Muslims that

ha we told you so none was a Muslims don't have any sense they just like animals they just like this they just like that so I just feel that's a very vicious circle that just you know it just spirals down and down so I would really speak against and advise against passionately avidly against just trying to blaspheme for the sake of normalizing dissent because I think that it's it's really counterproductive so that was my you know my peace my advice that I said

to hardest salt on and generally I say to X Muslims everywhere although I do support the right the freedoms I do believe in freedoms okay so Allah Akbar speaking of our assault on a Louis Island we've got harissa thought in the house Alice and Alice Adeline marhaban so we're just going over some of the points Harris that I thought are definitely worth sharing so that was one point I was just speaking of that I do believe in the rights for freedom but that said in order to normalize this end I don't feel it's a good idea to

blaspheme because of just the current state of mind and the reactions so that's an important thing I think we had some very fascinating theological discussions as well on things like reality what is truth what can we apply truth claims to I thought that was a very fascinating discussion whether it doesn't you know these discussions don't mean that the just because I say I think that the discussion is fascinating it doesn't mean the other person has to be convinced hardest is saying Salam aleikum walekum as Salam it doesn't mean that the other person is

convinced it just means that I thought it's a very interesting discussion and I did provide because this there veedu Vince had asked me at one point that look yes you say that religion provides meaning to people which it does but does that you know but that doesn't make it true what's - you know we're more concerned with the truth rather than just feeling good or having meaning or having satisfaction and I thought that's a very good point but I did address that you see things like the terms like truth

when applied to religion as it is in in a question sense that is religion true I said is actually I feel in many ways an improper question because it becomes difficult to assess religion because when we ask is something true as in true or false we have to be able to falsify that whatever is in question so things like is God for example does God exist is it's not really a falsifiable question it's you know we don't know nobody really knows nobody can say God does

exist nobody can say God doesn't exist as in with certainty as improve with proof so I feel the question that is this true that is that is not it's an improper questioning okay it's not it doesn't belong to that realm and I feel that that we did get into some technicalities and we got into certain things about reality and it was quite fascinating I spoke of things like look when we look at reality what is even reality because

when we think about it you know how that reality if we speak objectively for trying to be as objective as possible it isn't what it seems to us that it is and I think we kind of almost got lost in at one point in this point on sound where I spoke about because I said I said if you ask the question is music true it would just sound absurd what does that even mean is music true and in a similar way it's because it doesn't it's not a it's an improper question so I thought that was very good one and I think we kind of got lost on that point but just in case

you guys ever hear what I was trying to say with things like sound and things like music is that you see they don't have an actual existence like that that things like musical sound of vibrations in the and pressure that is atmospheric pressure it's in the atmosphere but it's how our aryl and auditory modalities receive it that we've read it as sound so that was the the the kind of point

that I was trying to to make it's like saying that you see because people confuse the pressure must be categorically sound but must it or is it that our auditory devices are designed to pick up pressure and interpreted as sound so is the pressure in the vibration in and of itself sound or is that the the end result subject to interpretation an example is like neurotransmitters in the brain are they

ideas like when we have ideas neurotransmitters fire but the neurotransmitters and the activity the neural activity in and of itself is the idea that exists in our mind it's not like gee you could fire the same neurons in somebody else's brain but you couldn't produce that idea that these that these things there is this obviously that there's a huge overlap with them but it's are they the same thing is the question this is a deeper question and I thought that that's and I think we when we were discussing it I

think we were kind of missing each other on the point me and we do vids on that but that's what was the the summary of it and of course and by the way Harris is in the house here this does not mean by the way people that when when I say this is a really good discussion I think I've got some good points is that the other person has to be convinced and not at all and I think we clearly disagree on things but that's not a problem and likewise much love right back at you Harris I feel that look the important thing is that we can discuss look you

can say in front of me a person can sit in front of me ask me anything look I you know I don't have infallible knowledge but I'm confident that I will at least try to answer if I can't answer I will try and look into the answer but I feel confident about the faith and you may feel confident another person that the faith doesn't make sense and isn't true but we can still have a humane discourse you know I'm not like kill the infidel and this is the only way forward

people it's the only way forward and I shared an anecdote by the way speaking of things like apostasy rulings I mentioned that in Muslim Spain in the time of the rahman ii who was the the caliph there was an incident and you can google this and read up on it and I cover it in my history on Al Andalus course that there was an incident where there were a string of Christian martyrdom efforts where Christians wanted to become martyrs so what they would do is they would just go up to a Royal Guard and for no reason

unprovoked they would just stand there calmly and just insult the Prophet and then they would ask to be arrested and asked to be executed now one Christian was a monk was arrested and and I think he may have been executed and it triggered a whole string of these kind of events so there were just people randomly turning up and they would just calmly know they would just turn up to a Royal Guard and they would just blaspheme or they would turn up to a local judge they were blaspheme and just asked to be

executed so the Calif because of royal guards reported this dream he didn't understand that it didn't make any sense that a person would want to be killed so he asked some of the key leading scholars they used to have as a state they had a leading Sharia Council of the leading judges and they were Maliki and they asked them that look what's this about and the age they just said immediately suspend the blasphemy punishments because this doesn't make any sense it's counterproductive but these people are coming to be executed I

mean this was a very long time ago but I'm just giving you an example okay this was and it's up to a man the second by the way it's in his reign that the Vikings attack they reach córdoba córdoba so the incident when the Vikings come it's during his reign which is an interesting story in and of itself but coming back to this point so that was something worth noting and I feel that and I think there's a point where all humans you see there's a point where we

reach a kind of brink where we don't have some answers and I think that's an important realization as well so there was a part of the discussion video vids and I in Harris hold on we were discussing and there was a point of look well you know if God had done this it doesn't really make any sense he could have done a better job he could he could have done this better or we could have explained this better and and and and I think these criticisms aside I think people have valid points that could have answers and do have answers but this aside you see just building to

the conclusion if we can just keep going and it says well look this doesn't make any sense therefore ago there isn't a god and I feel that fine fine let's roll with that however with that in mind you see that two doesn't make any sense like the fact that everything is just so random but that we not only our existence you see it's not just being but the intelligibility of being that being inherently is intelligible

this isn't this in and of itself is such a while striking factor that being being in and of itself has intelligible I don't just mean that we are intelligent but that things were to be understood in the intelligibility of being to just be totally random and have no one sir is also equally kind of like that also that totally doesn't make sense either so it's I understand from one angle we're

saying look this doesn't make any sense so no there wasn't a god fine but then the angle that looked but there is no God and nothing and everything is random cohesion of coherence of marker and all this has just emerged and there was nothing anyway and nothing is nothing and no or equally makes knows like it's equally absurd and I feel that that's in an interesting kind of stalemate scenario that's all so people that was a bit of a summary and there was another point as well which is worth mentioning there was a interesting point where video vids had

mentioned that loci there were certain things that didn't settle well with him when he was a Muslim like the virgin birth and I did mention this that I've got a very detailed video on YouTube where I respond to Sharia sarkar thee about the virgin birth and mentioned that the Quran actually no way explicitly mentions a virgin birth for Jesus and I do mention some of the scholars like Maulana Abdul Karim Allah thirty and others who felt that there was no virgin birth of Jesus he's chef you've got United to LA was eat Abadi and you've

got a few several of the scholars who were of that understanding who felt that there was no virgin birth that this was something if one could say that the Quran if one could say that you can infer that like by reading I between the lines reading this I can guess that but Allah never once ever said in the Quran that that this was a virgin birth for me read the verse that she says that how can I have a child and I've not yet been

touched did not mean that she remained like that just as when Allah says when the angel says to the wife of Abraham and she says how can I have a child and I've reached this age it doesn't mean that she had all of a sudden and none there was no intervention of a male just as with Zechariah when the same thing when he says well how can I have a child and my wife is barren and the angel says well Allah has decreed it's also three women are given glad tidings in the Quran about having a child when he

seemed when it was like it doesn't mean the two of them it's death nobody claims that there was no that it was there was no male intervention in there they all feel that they was male intervention it's only with miry they feel this because of what's from the Christian heritage and we've got to understand that the Christians did not say this because they felt it was a miracle the reason they felt that and it was not in jesus's lifetime it was after his lifetime almost a century after that this virgin birth concept became popular and that was because they feel that it's

the male semen that carries the original sin so they wanted Jesus to be born sinless so it's not to do with a miracle it's not for them to do with the miracle for them it's that so the original sin cannot be transmitted to Jesus and Mary was born with the immaculate conception so she was born free of sin and then Jesus didn't have male semen according to Christian theology so he could be safe from the original sin this is why the Christians went down that role not

because of what we might think like some Muslims think oh they said this because of they wanted him to be the Son of God that's not what they actually write in the books so I did mention and that much people like Maulana Abdul Karim la3 and other people India tafseer orbital luthfi mention that Mary because everybody except Mary was married to Joseph that they say that Joseph just wasn't he wasn't he just wasn't inclined intimately it's not that he had anything he had nothing wrong with him but he

just wasn't so sexual as a person and this is why she says that how can I have a child when I've not yet been touched but Abdul Maulana Abdul Karim Allah 30 and he was over at Hadees background salaphi background and he writes in his top seed as does his teacher who has a whole book dedicated to this called oh you know some some fee will additively maryam that they speak about that and it's the same thing that mallanna Allah mataman name at the another scholars write about as well

that it was that this kind of him being inclined intimately and sexually towards her after that is what if you want to call it a miracle or if we mean within natural sources that's what it was it wasn't the fact that oh you know she was there was no male intervention this is what these anima have said and so my point of saying this is that there was diversity and is within this position people want to believe in a virgin birth they can it makes no difference to the Islamic discourse Jesus aleihsalaam

is who he is with or without you know most prophets no other prophet had this kind of virgin birth but he's still a prophet so you know it doesn't detract from the status of Jesus in any way right so I hope that makes some sense right let's somebody said brought the almighty can do anything yes he can but then in that case in that case what you see why take the natural why does she have to go through a pregnancy why why not just this the baby here's the baby

why does she need to get pregnant and and go away and why does she need that because the almighty can do anything so why does he need to make her have a natural way which is and and so and it doesn't make much sense that if you ask what was the reason of not having male intervention like what is the reason that that Jesus is born without what what's the purpose of this miracle because it makes no there's no sense to it what's the purpose he has no objective okay for Christians so the original sin of Adam doesn't get trend what about for

Muslims what's the purpose of this it doesn't and so the reason is that it's just that this you see when you hear this it will come as a shock and your first reaction will be to kind of react negatively towards this but if you think about it it'll actually make sense what I'm saying nevertheless I'm not saying you need to believe that I'm just saying it's an opinion of many ala ma within Allison none and there you go right so somebody said what if our interpretation turns out to fail on the

day of judgement exactly okay I really think you see I think people this is another problem we have a very narrow image or an understanding a perception of God we think of God as some kind of I don't know like our image of him is almost like somebody with the personality of of a teenager like all you know very impatient easily angered moody non-understanding doesn't have

like we can get it but God doesn't fully it's like yeah I'm for some enjoying it obviously we'll get yeah we're going to get this interpretation duh but god [Music] that's a tough one God might not get it it's like what is your perception of God like why do you think solo of God why do you think that your hand.you intellect can grasp this but God is gonna struggle

like God's gonna be like you know Occam's razor right so I think we really need to raise our understanding to think that look if ever in life we can understand something God can most certainly understand it right so we need to stop this you know oh you know if I turn up with the wrong interpretation God's gonna be like well since you know who told you to aim so

high can you imagine that as a response who told James oh I know he know those interpretations are out of your league right so right so somebody says there's no mention of the father of Jesus here but there's no mention of the father of Moses there's no mention of the father not mentioning something doesn't mean it does not exist anyway let's move on you can watch my detailed video on that if

you like right so what else what's your take on exorcisms exorcisms are basically are just in people's minds they do not exist people what I mean by that is exorcisms or demonic possessions that a jinn has come in someone has the jinn has taken over this person and all the Jim does by taking over this person is make him make these kind of like like

kind of handicapped features that's the best that gene can do it's like this is what the jinn does it comes in a person makes them look all kind of handicapped and then that's all and then it just no sorry if ruins their relationship he always wants to ruin and they always obsessed if they obsessed with the women now they they're like oh I'm obsessed with that woman it's like why would they be obsessed with women like they are

entirely separate Kingdom they're an entirely separate domain they're not even we're not talking about just species it's like aegeon if you looked at viruses or you looked at bacteria or you looked at I mean would it make sense for the bacteria or the virus to say oh I'm in love with that these are totally different entities that nothing to do with human beings once again just

projection right so right right right okay some people are saying that some prophets have had their names mentioned the father's names mentioned in the Quran look some prophets have had their father's names mentioned in the Quran you've got yaku but his heart it's my eel you've got ibrahim you've

got some prophets have had their father's name but not all of them I mean most of them probably haven't there's you know who's not ELISA Lam's dad just because you don't know no Holly slums dad's name doesn't mean you didn't have a dad it's how dumb can Muslims get like this is the this is I can't even believe I'm altering that question we don't

mention oh doesn't mention that name oh it's just not fair this isn't fair as Muslims we are just disproportionately represented by like just you know like mentally people it's just unfair like we're not

it's they're slowing us down too much like we need to kind of like cut loose like to say you guys I like the white you're slowing us all down here it's like we're carrying an entire psych ward unit with us a full working brain

[Laughter] although he could have to be fake in that must be some divine wisdom as well [Laughter] gods like he leave it he just relax you sit down don't worry don't worry don't worry these other people they've got these ah [Music] right so what's going on people what's going on a sloth from the Goonies yes sir all the I's opinion on yeah huge ma'juj possibly

being some reason I'd like to see that please send me that I'd like to see I've not I've not heard yes here here sir cause he's saying yeah juju might do da some B's this is where intelligent people make the religion look dumb this is when an intelligent person comes and says don't worry about these and they totally mess it up as a good friend of mine Shaolin would say you know for an intelligent guy so this is the thing

yeah jujin ma'juj I have answered before that several ala man including a sardine is rissalah and other people have mentioned in my understanding was simply about certain forces that would appear and send them the the world as it was known at a certain stage into disarray they've interpreted that to mean like the way colonialization colonialism kind of just changed the world from what you knew it and to be fair I I'm kind of I've read the article and I've read that

interpretation it makes sense to me so yeah I mean people don't need to agree with it yep he said a friend said Daniel Steve said he said a friend said it did he say an intelligent friend said it what else is going on people what else is going on what else in training is training in self-defense that involves strikes to the face head allowed eg boxing Muay Thai yes of course that's allowed you can look people if you're doing

sports it's fine you know we know what sports is not seen as like attacking someone and beating someone up even though there is physicality in both of them but they are they are recognized by their context so it's fine you can [Music] somebody asked what happened to the profits Salameh Holly Salem's father either I don't know what what happened to his father meaning as in he passed away is that what you mean not sure what that

what that means your view on near-death experience research by Bruce Grayson I've got to check out his research I have in my last dialogue with how this old barn actually I did I was checking if I had the book around here but I haven't but I did share a book on consciousness beyond death and that was a an interesting an interesting book if you want to go through that Oh somebody is asking right oh the question is did

the prophets father pass as an infidel no I don't believe that no not at all you see the Quran has a verse for my akuna mina hudson about a thorough sulla and the belief of mainstream sunnis which is the hadees and the motto read these and people like that is that look you have people of a Fatah Fatah does not mean Fatah Petra is like people of nature and factorize people where it means this is with the tan that's what the Fatah and Fatah Fatah is of a an epoch an era of an age and it's when

there is no profit so things like this and that then there's no liability like that I mean we don't believe generally speaking I don't and neither do many Muslims that the appearance of the Prophet are doomed or anything like this who don't believe that right so somebody said it's not a big deal if somebody doesn't hold the view that Jesus was born through normal means it's just I don't find the interpretation convincing sure but nizam

afford that's a good point but the first question would be you see you're starting with a default position your position is already affirming something which doesn't exist so you're saying things like okay there's a virgin birth I believe in it by default the question is then you're looking at well hmm why should I not believe in it well I mean firstly the first question would be because these things don't happen generally although that said I I do understand that in other kind of creatures and things like this but that's not what we're

discussing right now the asexual births and that and things like the reproduction does occur in some creatures and but right now we're looking at within humans thus a second most important question you ask yourself is what is the purpose of a miracle what is the purpose and here you will find what you're looking for that there's no purpose to this like oh it's a miracle what's the purpose of it oh no it's just

just if anything it's it's just it's just gonna create trouble if you're gonna get a woman pregnant without a man that's just gonna be bad news for the woman because the Jews would have stormed married to death so what is the purpose of this miracle because people say the purpose of a miracle is that is to prove God but No Mary never once said to the Jewish people that I gave birth as a virgin birth she never said it once it's not once mentioned in the Gospels that Jesus was born without a father jesus never

taught this in his own lifetime as far as we know we don't have any records not Christian records or anything of Jesus ever saying that the Jews around him would have thought oh wow that's awesome but they didn't because nobody ever said this so the question is what is the purpose of a miracle and what was the purpose of that miracle then and then you may say well look but if Allah says in the Quran but he hasn't said it you're inferring it right so take a look at the verse the verse actually you see the verse is to do with

the birth of Jesus nobody takes them literally nobody read them about where it mentions how God would say that oh otherwise you'd believe God blew into the private part of of Mary nobody believes that they that's the actual verse you know a sonnet was your Marie Malatya sonnets Foggia - a naffy we blew into it the the vagina now that nobody believes that literally they would just say this

is metaphor of so my point is if you if you don't believe literally anyway in the actual wording why are you so obsessed on the inference which isn't even the actual wording that's my point hope that makes sense right okay let's look at some other questions a lot of Jesus questions coming up right what else is going on people what else is going on right so what else people

talk to me talk to me let's Elizabeth is asking how do you recommend somebody chooses a mother mother be simply the way that you will set about your foundations to pray and things like this it's not obligatory but it's the only way that makes sense it's like saying I want to learn you know I want to learn law you have to begin with the law of a particular region a particular

country to say I want to learn all law simultaneously makes no sense so methods are just they are just schools that have locked down the living tradition in the interpretation so you have popularly the format helps the Hanafi method the Maliki which is known as the school of Medina because it was in Medina and inherited the practice of the Prophet and then you've got the chef a mother and the humbly go on will let them in they were always like the low class kind of they're like they like getting a free ride like they haven't

actually paid so you know many of the scholars didn't even really consider them a method they're like okay so these are the four schools I would simply advise the school of Medina the Maliki method why so not only because it is the dawn method all right but also because is you see it inherited what was the living tradition of Medina and it

teaches us that this Deen is built upon welfare muscle ha and it's built upon the tradition and it gives primacy also to the voice of reason now the Hanafi method does also give primacy to the voice of reason or it did so traditionally but it doesn't go as far out when it comes to wealthy like the benefits and and things making always that they have to kind of meet the objectives whereas the school of Modena does so this is why I would and it's one of those schools

that still has some Liberty and freedoms the other schools have become almost the Hanafi mother has become 100 percent institutionalized today to be a Hanafy it's it's almost it's just a prisoner it's so harsh so extremely control freak and it is the method of Pakistan and places like this so check control freak mentality it would be a nightmare but I mean people obviously can choose it but so yeah so that's why I would advise the

school of Medina have you seen the pictures of imam ahmed even humble no since he lived 1200 years ago that's a bit like that you know there was that meme where it said we had a photograph of the world's first camera and he said this was the world's first camera and you can see this big thing and he said somebody'd written well well who took the picture then it's obviously you gotta you got to think about these things right so all right yes I do have

some resources I've got a basic fundamentals course called the ash Maui AIDS on YouTube it's in six lectures it is quite old but hopefully you'll still cover I've got the foundations of Islam which is in 20 lectures by all the er the Muslim Spanish scholar which is in 20 lectures these are both audio I've got an audio lecture called the school of Medina in the 21st century it's about two hours long why it's important its relevance its significance so that's worth going through and I also have a video on prayer how to do the prayer so it's performed in the Masjid

and I'm going through it Imam Malik transmits four hadith on the job did he believe in the job you see that the hadith that you're talking about are not very clear on the entity of the gern so just because there's a hadith about a dream a dream does not necessarily I'm just because Imam Malik is addressing a concept doesn't mean that that that whether he believed in that to be real or was that part of the folklore that people were discussing we don't know I mean I would argue for the latter that it was just part of the

folklore you're thinking of the open these and which translation of thoughts of zero is most accurate it's really difficult to say because I don't actually read any English translation sort of see any more for a very I haven't actually apart from when I used to study I went through Abdullah use of ailee's and I thought it was fine but nowadays critics will find see people will find problems with anything you see that's the the issue so thoughts

on Imam Omar Soliman saying jinn possession is proved by verse in the Quran it isn't proved by any single verse in the I mean what verse in the Quran you see when people say these things they need to bring clear conclusive proofs not just oh this verse implies something I think is talking about demonic possession see demonic possession is stupid if you think about it what what is it that if you believe let's say you believe in the Satan Shaitaan now Shaitaan himself doesn't have the power to make you move a single finger he can only just give you negative thoughts

that's his capacity and he's the ultimate he's the daddy of them all how can these other jinns possess you and make you do things and commit murderer and do all of this and and even kill you how can they do that that goes against the verse of the Quran where Allah quotes the Shaitaan saying that I no power over them besides just whispering hurrah people we're back with life I gotta gotta share this though one moment I

think I know what it is sorry about that people disconnected I'm just sharing this again I think I figured out what's what's happened right lo siento lo siento right my apologies people right just sharing this sorry about that folks you know what it is it's my [Music]

it's not the internet it's not the internet I get the internet fixed and then this happens right I actually had the I had my whole internet broadband thing replaced so I'm back with BT so it's not the internet I think what it is is that it's I think it's my daughter Zozo I think Zara what she's done is I think she's downloaded loads of these game programs so it's just taking up so

much space so time to time may just I think that's what's happened but anyway mmm lo siento bienvenidos welcome welcome right let's take a look at a few questions well you guys have been posting I'm back it's it's Laura that's what she's done because what it is is that cuz I've got an iPad Pro when it's the extra-large one so she's got an iPad and but she doesn't like her own life at because it's just normal size she likes this one

ah all right item kelwick is in the house and people share had them doing great work trying to help a lot of the unfortunate people in Yemen those of you that do have an opportunity you check chef Adam's page out some of the efforts the humanitarian projects it really is heartbreaking to see what's going on but you know mal ah make things easy for

each and all right people of right well let me see I thought well I was sitting here let me see if this works right people I was sitting here and I thought let me check something and I think I've actually just deleted a bunch of unnecessary random

videos that my little one had been recording on there and it just immediately freed up a few gigabytes worth of so I thought well you know what what the hell since I haven't spoken on what I said I will and just sharing it here

r.i.p 'pl ever i thought you know what oh my god almost built whoa that would have been that would have been crises right well what are these people I was going to just sign off and I thought well just as I thought that through divine intervention I guess the problem got resolved so I thought what the hell I thought I haven't spoken about the hums r-ucifee shoe and neither about the doctor Musharraf issue so why not if it's working let's tune back in

see what's going on oh those of you into your gadgets look what look what I got people now I'm not how me they're all I'm not into I'm back i I don't smoke myself and I'm not into things like she shell things like I just thought I can't actually believe it or not I can't physically just cannot smoke despite having tried on certain

occasions I just couldn't do it big see that's divine intervention and so I would just like if I smoked I would just cough cough cough that's all I would do I just I couldn't but I don't vape or anything like this I'm not into that but hey look what I came across here people this was a gadget I'm so much into my gadgets right now this is to do this it's vaping but vitamins it's actually

mentis I was like no way and I was like seriously so I had to buy one just to see what it doesn't vibrate now okay you sicko why would it vibrate for God's sake what well we know what fro D the yeah he Bolton he's like he comes back for a refund because yeah for vibrating carpathia they like a dull college [Laughter] where'd you put it

so you've got the so and it's meant to be it's called spark I think spark with a cue but it's vitamin E and you breathe in vitamins and they've got these vitamins that are meant to be kind of they dissolve and you know you take them in but I thought what a gadget ice we I'm so I'm such a sucker for gadgets like if I see something like a gadget I'll be like he's not become like one though mmm good you look like a little kid I'm like oh I

need to get that I buy so many things that just gadgets honestly I just if I see him I'm like oh like a junkie so yeah so this was all me I thought what a cool gadget people so you got that oh it's stylish style people that's the old traditional you know the old you know the Chaudhry Saab Chaudhry Saab

oh sorry they do it like this it's nothing they used to put that in there and they're breathing on that thing oh no it worked I think kind of lights up as you kind of breathe in no way Joe 3 Saab let me put that away right so that's just a gadget you know I should do I should actually sell this merch I should kind of white and this kind of stuff on Monday nights and totally are

determined ritalin breathing Ritalin so so what else is bothering the awesome funk Frau D Emily Zakariya island remember to click like people and share is the hadith the hadith about each they had and yes I I believe that sorry it's just encouraging people to look into certain rulings and things like that why

did Allah allow marriage between the children of Adam what was God's problem why did God allow me is that what you're asking like why did God allow this for God's sake you know [Laughter] look people there were other hominins around it wasn't they were other there would have been other Homo sapiens Adam aleihsalaam would have been the one with the cognitive revolution there's nothing to say that his it's that his children

were all siblings I think I'm having one of those handicapped moments there's nothing to say that his children married these siblings why would they marry this there would be other Homo sapiens and remember in the Quran it doesn't mention anywhere about how ah okay I'm just saying does it mention anywhere about how are they mentions his partner but what's to say Adam Ali Salaam there weren't because there would have been multiple women on earth that would have been homo sapien so what's to say that

they were these other children were from different totally oh they weren't just other Homo sapiens anyway so there's nothing to say that it's just our preconceived knowledge that we have okay cool alright what else is going on what's your thoughts on Medina University I don't really have thoughts on them usually I tried not think I'm out harness I can get a move on

get move on all right from Aram zakariya saying not all human are from Aram Oh human beings today I would be the children of Adam okay so but it doesn't mean that they weren't other hominins they were other hominins they were a hominin is like humans they were other humans but whether they made it or not most likely you probably would have made it so the Out of Africa thing that you see is a select few that make it and everybody today on earth is from them

right let's get to shall we get to the Hamza Yusuf what is going on people let's let's get to the ship hums the use of controversy so bismillah those of you that know share Hamza Yusuf share Hamza Yusuf has been involved in a bit of a controversy again but to be fair in his

defense it's not one of those kinds it could be worse it could be worse you see could be worse that it could be more scandalous and it could be even worse that it could it could have licked us but it it's his controversy no now Sheikh Hamza Yusuf is somebody who I have great admiration for I do I have great respect for sure Hamza Yusuf he is you see he is the kind of the Pioneers from amongst the the founding pioneers

really of the islamic renaissance in the West so those of us in the mid late 90s became inspired to learn about Islam most of us or many of us if I use that it would be more accurate many amongst us did so after being inspired by share Hamza Yusuf so he forever will hold that position as far as I'm concerned too for me anyway that's it it doesn't mean he's infallible just as nobody's claiming that he's infallible and so somebody's

saying I hope he isn't another Turkey no normally this is what I'm saying it could have been worse it could have been that kind of a scandal but it's not it's mom she comes he said Roboto shut um Korea what an angelic put you know like an in jelly appearance and it such a soothing voice gosh shall only at the end you try to put these scandals on Chef Ramsay's but share comes in yourself he hasn't been in any of those kind of scandals but he has landed himself in some strange some

strange other scandalous events really where he has said things that sometimes I don't know what I don't know what share Hamza Yusuf was thinking maybe you're why he said some of the things he said so in the past there was this whole right just to pause here let's we're gonna get into the whole what this event was but just to give the what the perception is so there's this perception and I'm not saying whether it's true or not I mean I'm not the best judge what

I'm just gonna share my thoughts on the Sheikh Hamza Yusuf is he's kind of speaking from an angle of snobbery or white privilege and very and that too privileged with a capital P here in his sense because he's come from a privileged background so you've got the class privilege and then the race privilege on top of that and there's this whole kind of snobbery and condescending perspective on other Muslims this is the the frame and that is kind of captured unfortunately but that that many people

are viewing that has captured share thumbs Yousuf now okay so he has made at time certain remarks that have triggered huge kind of reactions one of them those of you the world that remember the black lives matter incident we share Hamza Yusuf was giving some interview and I think it was one of the it's not ignite vents or was it the race or something it was that one of the American major conferences and and in it he speaks about he says well look you know a lot of the the violence is black on black

and and stuff like this any triggered an outrage that will water on earth and and he was saying that you know that there isn't no discrimination the cops don't call get black people but it's being presented like that they talk you just as other you know it's it's quite equal if you look at the data this is what he was saying in that interview and this is over you know a year ago and and it triggered a huge outrage and then now what's happened is there's been leakage leakage is never good is it leakage

never brings you know it's never followed by anything positive it's like yeah part gay it's leaked it's always there's always a drama of biblical proportions that follows that sentence that there's been a leakage anyway so this time there's been a leakage of some footage that's never a pleasant word to follow that leakage of footage it's like

the bottom these teenagers ruthless isn't it you got it you know if somebody says oh my god we've got leaked footage of someone it brings the strikes the fear of God in you if somebody was to say this leaked footage of you you're like yeah what what have they got it's true it's true we're all in that we're all in that boat you know we would all of a sudden would be on the subtle I would be praying up a

hundred even the prayer mat would be like what the hell's going on why is this person set me out after like 25 years not leaked footage right so right so there's been leaked footage of chef Hamza Yusuf ra-ra raela event in Turkey you see it's all Islamic is that a real

event and he's speaking about and I think it was following the failed coup the kind of abortive coup that took place against Aragon in in Turkey that was that was unsuccessful so it was after that that share Hamza Yusuf is at this Arella and he's he's speaking down against military coup against coos which I totally agree with I mean these coos are usually always notorious but then he carried follows in that trail speaking against rebellion and then he says he starts speaking about Syria and he says

well you know look at he says Syria as well how's the rebellion you know how's the how's the uprising going for you how's that working out for you and he starts kind of like laughing or or smirking I think and he says well how's that working out for you you got obviously sublease has triggered an outrage because people obviously feel that y'see sniggering and smirking saying that how's that working out for you all these people have died all these things have happened why would share comes Yusef say that and

and then some people say it's that you know and there were several articles written so many people speaking about it [Music] people some I read this article I forgot the I forgot the name of the author it wasn't allowed to use a social media article but it was actually very I was surprised that his analysis was was like quite Wow quite breathtaking and he speaks about how the rise of Hamza Yusuf and who's the other one Joe Bradford he speaks about is it Joe Bradford or a different I think he speaks about Joe

Bradford and also Jack you've got losing my mind at this this time on I but he speaks about them saying that look the rise of white Imams he himself I think is white as well and why the kind of social atmosphere that gave rise to them and the importance and then he obviously contrasts it with today it's you know they losing all of that but why they're not in touch with reality in his article he's be I can't remember the

person's name now but he says that look like Sheikh Hamza use of his being flown around the world in business class and staying in 5-star hotels and and there's a lot of this by the way online about share comes are you surf and the UAE government and things like this so what are my thoughts oh because people are saying that look he's a puppet he always speaks in the defense of governments oh right somebody has put that in it the name of the person who wrote that article is Omer Lee that's correct yeah I don't know too much about this person's online you know

just in case you say oh I don't know who this person all murli's but I read an article written by him so but the article the analysis was very interesting I was like wow some of it was a bit I don't make sense to me about Yazeed and Hussein and rowdy Aloha and all that kind of well I think why he brought that into it but anyway but that part was quite fascinating now a lot of people are saying that look chef under Youssef is a puppy for the government of you of the UAE and and many other kind of regimes these kind of oligarchs around the Muslim world they feel that people like cher hums Youssef are just

sucking up to them and they not you know they can't really relate to the regular Muslim on the ground that these people speak from this these kind of ivory towers with from a position of privilege and that to luxurious wealth and race racial kind of hierarchy as well these are the things that are being said another thing is in that clip share Hamza Yusuf mentions a hadith in term a--they now and he mentions that men a harness a harness salt on Ahana Allah

the whosoever disrespects and not just disrespect but insults denigrates degrades a ruler this is how he translates it assault on then Allah decrees him and humiliates him now this triggered a huge controversy and many people spoke out including people like chef sohave web wrote something on it other people wrote on it some people criticized I think the chef mummy said he criticized Hamza Yusuf for his Arabic

and grammar getting the the grammar wrong and instead of saying Ahana hoo-ha yahuwah which doesn't really make any sense and so people kind of really there was in this rage against share Hamza Yusuf so my thoughts on of these people what do I feel yeah what are our thoughts on this so first of all let's take a look at this hadith okay man a harness or pon Allah is okay so the original hadith so first of all

chair comes to Yusuf I don't know whether he was abbreviating the hadith but the actual hadith reads man Ahana Sultan Allah Ahana whosoever denigrates or degrades the sovereignty of Allah Allah degrades him not the sultanas in a sultan the ruler so that's actually a totally that would be a false hadith because there would be no such these like that because just to begin with just telling you straight me and these are tips by the

way for you guys in the future too when you hear something you know that that can't be authentic that you see if you look at it from a historical angle the term sultan didn't exist back then like in the prophet's time the word so that meant authority but it wasn't used for rulers like the way we have today a sultan this is a salt on so for example in in india they had Sultan's or the Turks they had these Sultan's this was not back then a term that the Arabs used they didn't used to refer to themselves as salt ants so a hadith could never be

using that term for a ruler because it would just be completely out of sync it wouldn't make any sense so these are kind of tips and pointers that you guys can use yourselves in the future right so this actually read sultan allah the authority of allah so whosoever degrades allah and his sovereignty then allah will degrade them this is what the hadith read and the hadith has problems with it anyway but that with that meaning it can kind of stand that meaning in a problematic meaning but if you

meant by Soltan as in a king then this term didn't exist in the prophets lifetime to mean king it's something that in many centuries even the abbasids didn't use it it came centuries after so maybe during the latter part of the the Abbasid time people did start to rise that start to call themselves zoton but what I'm trying to say it's hundreds of years after the Prophet so the hadith was definitely wrong and it's not true that whosoever degrades a ruler Allah will

degrade them that is not true okay that the rulers don't have that kind of sovereignty that kind of infallibility in Islam they don't you know so they know but that said I'm not speaking I'm not saying people should try to cause chaos and you know have a an uprise think I'm not trying to say that that would be disastrous but rulers are not this kind of angelic we're never allowed to insult them and things like this that's not true at all okay so that's it now it could have been

that Hamza Yusuf didn't think that when he was talking it was a private gathering it could have been even though it was in the rila which is a course and maybe he didn't realize it was being recorded it could have been I don't know that said it was a course so he I'm sure he would have known that you know because if it was an absolute private gathering then I would you know to some extent you see because I feel private private gatherings are Bill Amana Lima jealous bill Amana that as you say hadith that the gatherings are that they

have a privacy to them if they absolute private gatherings as in like you're just chilling out with some mates and chatting now you because there would be a context there would be a way that you two talk to each other or you three or whatever maybe you're very chilled you know another person wouldn't understand maybe there'd be a lot of swearing that's I can't say who's gatherings would be like my private a fraction of my private gatherings would would be like on a nuclear scale so I feel that look right

so if it was an absolute private gathering I would have huge issues because I feel that there is a privacy and there is a kind of a right to say you know that you can say things in your own safe space that people shouldn't really have to you know be spying on you and leaked it and stuff like that and I gotta save myself good stop which on a birthday it's like so it's like I always say that my camera man I gotta keep him sweet the amount of

stuff he would have on me the cameras still rolling and we're talking so we got always keep him sweet whatever happens I can upset anybody but not him cuz he's got like the world of footage on me right so yes so but this wasn't that this gathering of Hamza Yusuf was to be fair it was a course but it may have still been private but it was a it had some kind of a formal structure so I

think that is a bit of a you know middle ground the other thing is it may have been that when Hamza Yusuf was saying to people because when he says oh so how's the rebellion working out for you how's that going I think he could have been addressing the people who were responsible for the rebellion as opposed to the kela citizens it could have been I mean we don't know his is intention or his context he has share comes use of has released a

lengthy video sorry sorry a lengthy when I say lengthy I mean it's only is something like I think 15 minutes long but lengthy relatively is in just an explanation a detailed explanation saying look it had a context and apologize if I hurt people's feelings and you know he said he didn't mean it like that and things like this so I can understand that sometimes people they do say things and they're being sarcastic and maybe they don't expect it to get

out and then it's like oh yeah it'll leak okay that's it I think that Sheikh Hamza Yusuf can come across in some of the things he says as low with a persona of snobbery I think he can come across like that I mean I you see I won't lie I'm a I'm a huge fan of Chef Ramsay serve so to me he can do that and I will

while I I will easily forgive him it's like okay you know I'm a fan of of Chef Ramsay serve because of him being that kind of like the founding father amongst that cohort for the islamic renaissance and somebody who inspired me as well personally to to actually go and study so i will always forever have a soft spot for sure Hamza Yusuf but I can't see that I can't see I'm not gonna lie I

can see that he can come across with an angle of kind of snobbery maybe he's not doing it intentionally maybe he's I I would like to believe he isn't but he just doesn't know to say I hope he does kind of quit all fixes it because I have heard from people that look you know Sheikh Hamza Yusuf isn't very he's a social he's not very like a social person he doesn't really he gives off an incredibly cool vibe on his talks and lectures but in person I think he's a bit of a recluse and a bit of an introvert he's not actually he gives off

a very cool Californian kind of hip vibe and you know that surfer vibe and but I don't think is anything like that in person from what I've heard from people I have met him only once but from people who've known him you know who are near and dear to him or word they've kind of told me that he's not he is quite an introvert and people who've gone on courses with him have mentioned how he doesn't mix with people he doesn't really you know he won't meet them he'll stay on a separate floor and you're not allowed to kind of really approach him like that and he doesn't like sit with

them at lunch times and things like this so you know maybe it's that social thing he doesn't I don't know but I do feel that I can see how some people would be hurt I can see that like the the black lives matter thing I can see how that would hurt black especially black Americans who are facing the struggle every day and it's hard because look I'm not saying everything he's saying is I'm not saying people who say these things are necessarily wrong in everything they

say some things me it's like if we look at you see like let's take a look at the UK and there's a horrific rise in knife crime and it may well be that knife crime but if you if you it may be I'm not saying it is that a lot of the people involved may be from ethnic backgrounds but then there's a greater context to took the kind of lack of opportunities and things like how there hasn't been how they I mean resources available as there are

in certain areas there's been a lack of funding there's been a lack of certain the actualization of potential we can't ignore that I mean in America you can't ignore I think that the obviously I'm not an expert on American kind of civics and things like this and what's going on in but you I'm sure it's obviously true that there's a lot more drugs and things like this in certain ghettoized areas and there's a lot of crime there but surely they are deprived of a lot of opportunities as well and and you know for people for such a period of time going through so much suffering it's not easy for them to just not be in that and

then when somebody that is white and privileged and then speaks from that I'm saying like what the hell's wrong like obviously it's gonna hurt these things will hurt people even if there's some truth in I'm not saying I'm not right now speaking about the truth claim whether it is or not but even if there was it's gonna hurt and it's not the thing to say so I I definitely agree with the people in the sense that these things shouldn't have been said like that that kind of sniggering like hey how's that working out for you

hey now going so well now is it and so obviously I think that would you can imagine I we've got a good friend of ours oom who maybe live with us today or sama not bin Laden but who's Syrian and one of our one of our inner circle and I can imagine how hurt he was and people who it's personal to you know that it's not their fault and the truth of things like rebellions is that you see it's a

really sticky situation because if you see the lifestyle that these people have that the kind of oppressive shadow that is that kind of hangs over them you see it's easy to say things in hindsight because everything is clear in the rearview mirror looking back it's easy to say well that didn't work out you know well that was a clear mistake but at the time it's not easy to know what's going to be a mistake or what's not and when people fight for freedoms

they think look maybe this is my you know this is our time let's rise if it works you know everybody will be there to say love's awesome but if it doesn't and that's such a and I've personally lived in Damascus for for under two years for one year and a half or something at one time and then I've spent several months at other times and this is way before in the in the late 90s and early 2000s and it was an amazing place but it had that overarching shadow that oppressive

shadow were yet to always praise the ruler everybody had to praise it and I've got to say it was claustrophobic and suffocating because of that but that said like I look now at the horrible position that the people are in in Syria and I'm sure that that obviously that kind of oligarch rule was still much better than this I recognized that but I won't lie that when I was there and I was much younger I was even thinking why don't these people just have an uprising

this was my sentiment as a young version of me thinking what's wrong with people why they so you know why don't they just rise and and now the now mean looks back and thinks like you know how tragic this was and I don't know whether it's obviously this is with me age but obviously those people wouldn't have known and it's not that all the citizens rose remember there was it was an uprising but not everybody was fighting or rising they would they suffer as a consequence it's a very difficult call to make I think and it's

such a fine line that it's now or never on which way do you go I honestly I I it's it's horrific to think to be in that position because I saw the younger me you know in the in the early 2000s in Damascus experience and it was there were amazing people but there was this just a heavy burden some shadow of the state and I remember thinking what's wrong we haven't these people got the whole needs to rise up how and they got the testicular forty you know I don't

think this is what I was thinking and that was the naive me obviously and and now I think back and I think bloody hell that could have easily like imagine I was one of the people from the that could have easily been me because that would have been my sentiment and it's you know and it's true they people like Imam Malik when he was asked about rising against the the abbasids because the Abbasids took over from the Umayyads in his lifetime and there were certain uprisings even against them that were

unfortunately crushed imam malik said that look he said that these people he said that it just leads to bloodshed and that is the unfortunate truth that said you see it leaves you in a very difficult predicament should you just kind of fold your arms and just forever be quiet because you know don't you on one hand want your children to have be free and it's it's such a horrible predicament you know may Allah save us

honestly I I I create what those people are went through and what they're going through now and maybe the hundreds of thousands if not millions that have either died or been tragically affected so may Allah make things easy for them with regards to share Homs our use of statements I recognize that they do come off with that snobbery that kind of angle and but I don't know I can't judge his intentions maybe he didn't mean it like that but in public things I guess he should be it's easy it is easy to say

you know I'm not you see I'm not very watchful with my words I say things sometimes in all kinds of people would say the same thing to me then you know you should watch your words which I guess is true but you know because I remember a while I remember a while back there was a remember when there was that cook that song had gone viral about happy that kind of happy what's the name of the the singer you know if you're happy and what's the but anyway I've forgotten his name now somebody will

probably type in the home but there was this song that was viral and the Muslims had done the whole thing as well they've made a you know Muslim and happy kind of I'm happy clip oh that's it Pharrell that's it Pharrell had done the the happy song so at the time chef I'm the Youssef was speaking about it and and I think Sheikh Hamza Yusuf in some ways has become a bit kind of grumpy more grumpy or with all day each other so he and speaking about that's it Pharrell Williams and he was speaking about there's some car accident and these people were playing this song and they

crashed and they died and she comes the use of them said well you're not so happy now are you hilarious I was like I mean something like that I would understand saying it but not on camera chef you've got to get this the camera bad this one is not in front of camera off camera on

screen off screen we gotta learn yeah so this that's my thoughts on it I do personally will always have a soft spot and do have a soft spot on the share so he could he's made an apology video now he could make that and I'll just be like it's it's all right here don't worry bah but to other people I think he's hurt them that said as well I do think sometimes we are in a day and age as well weights really people are really cutthroat as well you know people have become very unforgiving on you do

something and off saloon Genta you know people just don't yeah I accept I do think chef Hamza Yusuf is kind of unfortunately maybe becoming a bit grumpy and all like that and I hope I hope not but yeah but anyway that's my thoughts on the whole Hamza Yusuf controversy so if it's of any help or whatever you never know maybe share comes the Yousef will watch it and think [Music] [Laughter]

let's move on to the second the masala segment people doctor Musharraf Hussein doctor Musharraf Hussein controversy yeah this controversy after controversy so there's been a controversy to do with the translation of the Quran by doctor Musharraf Hussein called the majestic Korriban now so what is going on with

all of these people right now so this one has had all the lot of the key players of the bravery community get all riled up and they've taken him to task mean an inquisition and they've cutthroat people cutthroat so what happened was the backdrop and then we'll get into it so basically doctor Musharraf who is a Braille V Pakistani scholar I'm not sure if he's British

born but it's British raised anyway and he lives in Nottingham in the UK now he teaches or used to teach Jamil cara mia' in Nottingham but he's had his own research and he's a graduate from a less hard and he's always been kind of progressive and forward-thinking and ahead of his teenage and his community the bravery community so he's released a translation of the Quran the brewery's have been they've been totally infuriated by it and they've said that this is absolute blasphemy I mean but

with them if a person sneezes that's blasphemy but so this has been absolute blasphemous and they've brought a dave tasked an important meeting a Cobra an urgent meeting of the highest order people with the great people like chef sab Shammi and all these other ulema have been invited to it and they've had to pass a verdict Allah Allah dr.

Michelle Roth was saying the verdict not nice as you can imagine you know if you ever cool to to a hearing by movies it never ends well there's never a good ending to that so get the hint don't okay there are no good endings it only ends terrible or ends worse it's like you get to pick that's the that's the thing so and they've pointed out several

verses of the Koran that they felt he translated blasphemously and I'll go through some of them now and there's a whole video I believe it's on YouTube by the way because they did a recording of this when they gave the verdict alright so see first of all I want to say that I feel I'm just bringing this up there's two things two points to get out of the way one is I feel Muslims are incredibly vindictive anyway the religious law they

I mean they will only find faults in everything oh sure sure Imam chaudhary willie this name had that he's in the house and all other people imam kasi see we I've come to realize Imam Willie this name is related see this is how you you bring them in you find out where how you're related all right good to see you online

right so the thing is that the religious community unfortunately they very kind of prejudiced incredibly judgmental so if you do something they will only find faults in it take an example of anything and usually it's there was the in a few years back the study Quran kind of whole controversy and people made such a big deal and this and that and in all honesty I don't see what look if somebody translates something that doesn't quite who cares just ignoring and just carry on

I personally that's my view but there was this big deal oh you've got a boycott II it's Haram to read it like this but have you read the translations of the other lab that allow use of highly and all of these and you know that was the worldwide translation of the Quran at one point Abdullah Yusuf at ease when I was doing my health of the Quran you know many years ago in I think it was 99 approaching 2000 I actually went completely through almost Abdullah Yusuf Ali translation helped me immensely but uh I don't know nowadays

people will find fault in everything so that's point number one especially the religious law okay point number two is that I've partially to blame here I feel is also dr. Musharraf for saying this is my perspective that why do you resort to these people as authorities you see these people can only pass a verdict on you if you see them as authoritative and you hang around and you are part and parcel of

that kind of atmosphere like it when you're going because these people don't actually wield any like any authority when they say oh I'm quote like it's like if I rang them if a person calls you oh I'm gonna hold a committee and pass judgment on you you'll be like well who the hell are you do I look bothered but if you play along and you go to these things in you partake and you this is part of the problem these people don't have any authority

why are you empowering them so this so in a way you're responsible because you yourself are saying yeah yeah pass judgment on me like who do they think they are to start off with so so I would like to say that I think you know dr. Musharraf or sane is partially culpable he has you know there's some culpability with him because okay one is the translation and things like that but you going you're agreeing you're doing things like Toba like I do Toba oh I've recognized my

mistake I do tauba tauba tauba tauba I see when you do that you play into the egos of these people apparently he agreed on the video they read out that he agreed to for the cancellation of all his his the publication of his tafseer and he would call for the withdrawal of his stuff see a book why would you agree to something like this why would you even attend this kind of a personal hearing these kind of kangaroo courts so exactly to me why do you so then you

can't go about saying look I've been silent and patient and I've been putting up with this what do you mean you've been putting up with this who the hell is he self-inflicted so this is an important point to make nobody has any authority over you let them say whatever the hell why are you even entertaining it and this is a message to other people out there don't let these people bully you they can believe whatever the hell they want they have no right to bully you about your beliefs

okay so right now right-oh wanted to come there was some there were some errors that doctor Musharraf himself highlighted so he corrected his translation and there were some of them which to be huh this was

his original translation he said in surah Tauba ha he translated so don't be nasty with the orphan why would you translate it like that anyway what the hell is that about you know then he changed that to what it should be as in don't be harsh with the orphan so one two of these when I was reading them I was thinking yeah doctor with my

feet I mean she cast smoke already this was not nice nice so and he translated another one so these were kind of like dumb translations so where it said in surah yousuf where ya Upali Salam is saying oh do you think like I'm an old

man you taking me he translated this you may think me an old fool bill creative license knee right so I think and other things like where is said about you know some things by the way didn't make any sense like this some verses you know like Vallarta Coonan Amina Helene and do not be from those who are ignorant and so

and here translated as so don't be amongst those who have doubts and they said a stuff for Allah that's like you saying as though God is saying it to the Prophet saying so so here to amend that to listener listener as in listener don't be among those who have doubts but just to give you an example check this out you see like if you look at that Marcin Hannes translation this is the truth from your Lord I'll help America Follette akuna minal moon terrine this one so be not be you

not one of those who who doubt he translators soul so be not you one of one of those who have dealt Pickthall translated as it is the truth from your Lord so be not thou of those who waver the sahi international translation translated it as so never be amongst the doubters abdullah yusuf ali translated it as so be not at all in doubt most exactly translated it as so never be amongst those who doubt abdel halim translated it as so do not be one of those who doubt apple Alamo duty

translated it as then be not amongst the doubters most of our pub translated it as so do not ever be one of those who doubt I mean yeah yeah what's the problem with saying so but this was just you know the height and bravery sensitivity so they made such a big deal that he changed that translation from so to listener I think those kind of things were useless but some of them I do think

like where he said so don't be an old fool and or take me as an old fool or don't be nasty with the offense and instead of cooler or lower had instead of saying he is Allah one he said he is a lot the unique niche you know these people made a big fuss about but so the point is that look yes some of those could have been better translated I accept that and I think he has corrected them but you know you're gonna get this kind of vindictive hate you should not play into it if you do play into it you are partially

responsible that's what I would say these people have no authority these kangaroo courts mean nothing people did they make takfeer of him I think they did make takfeer of him but he did Toba they said he did Tobler in front of them he attended because he actually attended this hearing and heard them pass verdict he then did Toba and signed some kind of an agreement which I'm thinking what kind of games are these at least spiced up the games a little you turn up and

there's a whip so these these things these movies Milana sobs and their games yeah these sacred games you know sacred games one must be careful you know what so people with that let's put it let's call it a night hell of an evening right wherever you are people much love remember menial tasks take very good

care of yourselves and shall remember remember people to always engage in learning but also engage in the lighter and funnier side of life remember to laugh people it's one of the most important things that you can experience in this lifetime shall I stay happy stay blessed over and out well Salam alaikum warahmatullah