Unreliable hadith on camel urine as medicine | Mufti Abu Layth

you know there is a part of this is i was going to you know under the microscope because i'm going to be showing a lot of um there was a clip there was a clip also of uh muhammad hijab but i won't be going through that today but what i'll do is uh i'll cover that next week but it's where he's doing a lecture sorry we it's got a clip on youtube recent one about camel urine and how although you don't need to drink it

but um which i i guess is a step in the right direction away from urine any step away from urine is usually a good step but then he's saying um you know don't you don't dare criticize it the hadith like you know this may have some blessed wisdom in it that you are unaware of which really is quite nonsensical let me see if i can find that here so so this is the clip

camel urine as medicine now this in all honesty is uh camel urine is not medicine and neither did the prophet ever instruct people in a real sense ever uh to drink camel urine now i will cover this in more detail next week but what i'll do is i'll do a hadith analysis so the hadith is transmitted by anasem bukhari and it's actually this bihari brings both narrations and this and these two of these one does

not even mention that and i have highlighted that this hadith is not reliable uh secondly if those people who took it as an understanding they may have understood that the prophet they may have interpreted this if first of all the chain is problematic and i'll highlight that next week and how this is actually because even the other one that buhari brings from the same narrator does not even mention this part it mentions milk but doesn't mention that and how if you those people who think

well maybe it's a point of consideration that this was taken as said as a um to rebuke these people not as it was not instructive it was almost like cursing them that said in a sense like you know why don't you go drink urine you know in that sense because these were the people you see you have to remember that these people that came the prophet saw malice in them and they were not from medina

and they come and they take you see the arabs had a custom that what they call kera that if somebody from out of town came to you your property as a guest you had to give them three days of um of this biafra they called it terra of hospitality and the first day had to be uh you had to kind of go be over and beyond but the other two days you can just be casual so the first day because they're gonna be most tired and everything from their journey so you have to

as a tribal law of hospitality go over and beyond in serving them but the next two days you can just be casual with them and they have up to three days of stay with you so these were part of the tribal laws the unwritten laws that um the the arabs had and the prophets al-salam uh partook in this and many people they all and there's a hadith explaining it as well so they take up accommodation hospitality with this old couple and the prophet saw and they came to the prophet as well kind of oh moaning and complaining and the prophet saw that there was

that this this was a rowdy bunch and he saw malice with them so some people may have transmitted this if as interpreted this as the prophet rebuking them but this part this hadith is not really this part is not reliable anyway but still if you were to take it maybe in this sense that the prophet was kind of like curse not cursing them but kind of rebuking them because what they go on to do is hurried beyond measure that old couple what they do is not only they

do they slaughter their livestock they then cut off the hands and feet of this old couple torture them and blind them with heated rods that's what they do i mean to an old couple that serve them hospitality and this is why they are then caught and they are served the same punishment under tribal law so this and these are the people that they attribute this hadith to that the prophet said to them why don't you drink camel's urine this is not a medicine

that's absurd but i will go through the chain in in next week's session inshallah but it was interesting to see that okay well what muhammad hijab has done is he's moved a step away by trying to say well you know okay you don't need to do this but this was a one-off medication but you see this is the problem where muhammad hijab is kind of stuck because muhammad hijab can't really at this stage turn his back on the selfies

because you see i don't think he feels confident enough to do it because if he turned his back on the selfies who would his audience be you have to remember this who would he be preaching to and selfies are a huge audience there are a lucrative audience they are a you know and he comes from that background anyway so but since he's started to become a bit more academic or a bit more let's say he's trying to learn

more and then adopt philosophy now the selfie is hate philosophy so he's kind of found himself in a real weird kind of pickle by trying to say well quote a lot of philosophy and the selafia are people who hate that the other thing is he's try to quote a lot of um in like appear very intellectual by quoting science and things like this now the problem with this is you see when you quote scientific stuff to prove absurdities it will more often than not come back and sting you

and bite you in the rear end so even on this he quotes something very you know in a fleeting manner saying that did you know camel urine contains this particular ingredient which is used in certain medications you see now the problem here is when you do stuff like that what's to happen is this because i know for a fact that look muhammad hijab is not going to have a plethora of research in in in the medical world and that's not he's not there's no way i mean he's

let alone expertise he's not involved with the medical world and he's not involved in medical research and he's not going to be from that field so he's saying something of that field that he's just come across and because saudi what the saudis have done is because the these you know these um camel urine drinking bedouins are so obsessed with the camel urine that they've actually injected a bit of money into their universities to offer free research to people like do a

phd on proving the benefits of camel urine so people have kind of done some theses because obviously they're gonna but they they this kind of research does not make it medically accepted so is it in a renowned medical journal or is it just a phd or a master's thesis that somebody in the university of king saud has done in you know in riyadh or something or you know malik or whatever it is in these universities in saudi arabia that doesn't mean anything you see so what these people are doing

is quoting something medical now all it's going to take is some person who does know they are clued up with webmd and other kind of medical journals and that's their forte that they are going to bring this up smash it smithereens and thereby destroy the perception of the prophet that you're presenting see and that's the problem and this has happened on so many occasions you know this has happened with it can you know this is what muhammad hijab or aira used to do this you know now i think hamza tortoise has stopped doing this but he used to do

this a lot quote you know like this is the medical thing for it but unless you are actively studying medical research it's really difficult going out on a limb and trying to prove a controversial point through it because what's going to happen is it somebody's just going to come back and smash you with it and that's what happened with many of his things you know people came back saying oh well you actually cocked up here and you cocked up the quoting this and you cocked up here quoting this embryological fact and you you messed up here quote