Mufti's Meetup [March! ha marchando wey! 😆]

home let me just once again just see uh oh here it is all right cop peed people people people there you go let me share that out there all right all right all right so what is going on let's see who is awake in this ungodly hour

huh senores what's going down so somebody said i'm so [ __ ] you're doing it you're doing it he said i'm so sad why are you so sad you need to cheer up man cheer up i was you know what it is i was just doing a little workout at home god it's you know what it is it's depressing but the good news is the gyms are just

opening on mondays so woof i cannot wait um it's just so unmotivating doing it at home honestly but anyway i was doing a little workout and i was thinking yeah cello i've got to go chill out now freshen up shower up why not watch some more tv series and then i thought yeah what is going on you know with me my people out there it's been quite a while haven't spoken to them so why not what the hell let's just go

live man so who do we have here already manak mufti i've learned a lot from you bless you brother shukran manak shukran i love the style look at the style of the the icon right there that's obviously a cartoon a bit emoji of manak you're doing it man i keep doing it i love the style right khoyas from malaysia uh ahazan

but let me get back to the gym get back into beast mode man this is like i feel honestly i it's depressing because you just ah you know it's just not the same and you can't work out the same way and alhamdulillah we can see the shore we can see the light at the end of the tunnel so mithi is hippo pink milk pink see there's a person nas who has his priorities in order anisa allah

are you gonna do open panels what what what would an open panel be like share share your thoughts with me let's see who have we got here on the live stream let me just whilst you guys are arrive vampire greetings people welcome to the dark side right so we've got right here all right the barman you're doing it you're doing it let me just

look at that i'm not working on my school it's cool why not yeah why not why not i'm just lying now anyways as as i often say what's life if not lived that's it you wanna you wanna always say hell yeah i lived it so that's good man what do you work as if you don't mind us asking i'm crying kiri here you're doing it is that you bar man you're doing it you're doing it so what's going on man what's preoccupying your precious thoughts

i just want to say what's up sugar man i appreciate it ma i appreciate you and appreciate you tuning in and just reaching out and sharing your your considerate just greetings with us so shukran for that batman we'll catch up then take care of yourself we'll speak soon salaam what's

going down look at that see this this this is going in reverse with the benjamin button effect [Laughter] all right what's going on ahmed how you keeping i'm good mufti how are you i mean for me obviously i go to school so lockdown hasn't been affecting me that much but for me as a as a movie critic lockdown hasn't been affecting me either but it has affected me with the gyms i won't lie you know

with this kuch kuch taklifu i was like this one personally you know i was like this is this needs to end now that's enough god damn it let us back in the gyms man and yeah alhamdulillah that's uh it's coming to an end are your schools are your schools opening up now um right now it's easter holiday so school yeah yeah after after the break yeah um the thing about the gym was i've always wanted to go to the gym but right right now i'm 16 right so i wanted to go to the gym when i was like 14 but my mom obviously a pakistani mom she said

you know you won't get tall enough so you didn't allow me that's it that's it man somebody said look mufti needs his own gym at home uh i actually believe it or not have a gym um in my garage but the problem is is it's so unmotivating honestly it's it's ridiculously unmotivating it's hard to explain but it just doesn't work the same way you know this plus obviously you're restricted in the amount of machines you can have you know you have certain things that you can do and and the weights but it's not you know and you can't quite hit the muscles in the same way you need different angles and

but yeah that's that so but okay so any new tacky i mean i've just been studying more arabic just doing that um yeah people ahmad s going to be a future imam and scholar within the uk you mark my words that's what's going on we're gonna see that because the thing is obviously islam for me is a massive part of my life it's it's take it takes up many hours of my day shortly but the issue is a person's got to have you know money is always good to have a

source of income so professionally i want to be inshallah a doctor so okay that's fair how does how does one balance something like islam and then medicine at the same time i think taking that as a broader question is you see it's not just medicine i think i think if you take it kind of zoom out and you look at it as occupation or work or career and having a work-life balance is incredibly important i would first of all say if you are somebody which you are and you definitely

should be um somebody who's going to be taking up dean studies uh seriously and passionately as as in you're in it for the long game you know you you're in for the long run so in that sense i would always advise such people to be financially independent like never lean on the dean like okay never make the dean your main source of income i mean you may in the future do courses and teach things and sure you know you may get invited to give talks and people may pay you but

and that's fine but that's not your main source of income never because it cripples your free speech it cripples your thoughts uh now i would personally advise always being enterprising entrepreneurial but but being a doctor sure i mean that's very um that can that can also be very entrepreneurial depends how you look at it but it's also a very dignified and noble profession to be in um i'm sure i'm sure it will work out pretty well and they will complement each other and i know some of the depends what kind of a doctor you're going to be in but some of them whilst you're training uh have some you know ridiculous hours i

don't know if you what did you go through that book um uh what was that oh damn what was that guy was it adam k or something the guy who wrote about um it's uh it's actually quite funny i went through the audio book of it let me see was that his name was it adam k yeah this is going to hurt have you ever been through that okay that that's actually very funny because he's a doctor but when he's writing this book he's he's not a doctor anymore i think he's i don't know whether he's been struck off or he's retired but uh he he tells you the whole thing and it's really it's really interesting this person you mentioned

maybe he's american the thing about becoming a doctor in america no no no i'm pretty sure he's british oh right but i'll say it anyway basically the thing about becoming a doctor in america is it's completely absurd for someone who's foreign right so let's say i've spent 14 years studying to become let's say a neurosurgeon if i want to go to america i have to first do the same exam that you know 20 year olds are doing and then on top of that i have to do i think two years of 80 hour work weeks even if i'm a fully fledged neurosurgeon out of curiosity why out of curiosity

why would you think why america why not the uk you know it's true but i'm sure you can make a good amount of money within the uk as well it's not as paid as america but it's you know you just have to think out of the box and i think entrepreneurially there's many ways you know it's not just you being a doctor you see you can think you see what i tell people i tell people close to me is that you see when you are something that's just you're a cog so you are a doctor for example or you are something else that

a person who has a particular vocation or a profession now you could just instead of being that you could open a company in this case a actual clinic where you have hire other doctors and you you see because the thing is it's not you see it's it's very short-sighted to think you're gonna do all the running you could have other people do the work and you just enjoy the money it's not i mean you can do some work it's it's just most people don't want to go through the headache of setting things up but if you are prepared to do that you can just kind of rest back a bit and people are happy to do the work so you could just have to

so you're you're still in the same field but you're just you know and and you can expand and you can bring particular things in that are unique and you can set up different enterprises in different cities and and there's so much even within the medical you know there's um but i don't want to go into a business kind of talk yeah business pitch but there's so much i mean even whether you want to uh medical i know it's not actually linked but it brings a a false sense of a false sense of confidence to the aesthetic world you know in in in you know the whole kind of cosmetic industry and stuff like that as

well and and there's i mean if money is the thing there is ridiculous money to be made you know but you're very young yet you don't need to worry too much about that in years to come you pick my brains then and i'll tell you what to do i think way too far ahead you know like i i've kind of decided that once i've got their money inshallah i want to go back to pakistan and over there obviously land is ridiculously cheap you get a mansion over there for something here which would be a tiny house and over there you know i have other shock i i like january i like i want to have a you know

i'm sure you can have plenty of dogs over here you don't need to leave houses are so expensive [Music] sure it depends it depends on what your you know it's the same as any country you will find capital cities or large cities things are expensive smaller cities they're not as much and but yeah yes i think you're thinking way too ahead of you know you know when i was 16 i was like [Music] i mean you're thinking like i probably started to think once i hit 30 so i i think you know you're way ahead of yourself which is great which is great but there's a lot don't worry an

investment there's a lot as well there's loads you know if you're thinking pakistan um obviously you're way too young i understand but think places like gowada okay that's going to blow up massively in the years to come you can mark my words on that that's a huge investment huge but uh yeah okay cool well ahmed well loads of people waiting it's been a pleasure speaking to you you are ahead of your time and ahead of your generation and i'm sure you're going to make muslims very proud in the future man so take care of yourself and we'll speak soon so people look at that see young people

like that i honestly if i was not if when i was 16 i was so lost i didn't have a clue about what the hell is going on in the world and i i cannot believe ahmed is 16 i mean he is far more mature than most 30 year olds i know you know it's like wow that is uh that is definitely all right so let's get some and you can see land is expensive it always is terran it always is but here's an idea by anonymous robbing banks is always an option you know when they say

why did you rob the bank well i was in it for the money that's uh the typical let's get somebody on who have we got here all right yasser [Music] i'm good where are you joining us from i'm from montreal canada montreal canada you're doing it man canadians honestly canadians are doing it i have to say you know i i was just going to say you know we just had ahmed on speaking about

certain systems and i think you know if there's a part of the world that definitely the only thing is i i think it's freezing as well in canada otherwise i think that it has a because it has the health system from the uk yet it's so huge it has all these other facilities it's just i think it's definitely got to be one of the most uh amazing places and you've got i have so many people that come on from canada yeah but i don't think so from montreal and i think i'm the first one from the french parts of canada

i see the french thing coming up now the uh i miss the apologize see this is this is this is what people find it must be that accent they find very attractive they like you like i'm sorry mademoiselle excuse excuse me [Laughter] so yes sir man talk to us tell us uh what's preoccupying your thoughts or share share something you'd like to say yeah sure so i i actually i came here for two things basically first one is i have a question for you so i was thinking about this the other day

and it's about the concept of okay in islam and i'm not sure if i'm grasping it right okay because um i read about it and there's a distinction between the aura and i was wondering what's sinful there like is it sinful to show the aura i mean the mukha of course or it's sinful to see it so i'm having a hard time understanding these concepts

all right okay so right so that's um that's a good question see first of all these things just to uh kind of lay the foundation these things are what not haram in and of themselves okay so there are things in islam which are haram uh like stealing or doing things obviously causing harm murder stuff like this these are haram okay and then you have things which are muharramat as well

in the sharia but so in and of themselves they are not haram but they are made haram because these things lead to other harms so for example that the whole thing of exposing yourself or being naked in and of itself is not a haram action it wouldn't be something that because in essence what is it that you're doing you're not actually doing anything but it's just the actions that the consequences that may happen even if you don't intend them to happen but that may happen in that particular environment

hence it's not haram to be you know walking around naked at home for example but it's that what happens and especially even today in many parts of the world these things unfortunately lead to you know very tragic uh events so that's why this haram isn't more about punishing you it's more about the strictness to safeguard so there's a difference in the makasid of this okay just to be clear from the offset whereas stealing is haram so the objective is it's saying it as a

punishment it's not saying it as a you know as a safeguard here this is more out of kind of care and safeguarding it's kind of put there then the scholars disagree that okay well and this is mainly they say for women but they say for men as well obviously what parts need to be covered what parts don't need to be covered and they massively disagree amongst themselves the malikia tend to give this nice this kind of simpler

the aura which is that which needs to be covered at its core like this is the essential this is the must and then there's the mukhafa the extended aura which you know you should as well but it's it's it's kind of more you could get away with it as in you know it's not the the emphasis it's not like the the exclamation marks after it ain't the it's like yes you should cover it but it's not the other is like then they disagree the scholars uh what is that although they agree on essentials so they agree that the private part

uh that they must be covered and beyond that there's a disagreement on okay on men so they will say some will say you know maybe it's the just the groin area some will say it's that and slightly surrounding it and some will say no it's that and between the you know up to the navel that kind of pelvic area and some will say it includes the thighs for the men and that's become a common thing that you hear sometimes they say between the navel to the knee you know there's a common um it's not actually a strong hadith but it's they have this kind of hadith which they've popularized

now with women similarly there's a there's a difference of opinion that what do you they all agree on the kind of the the private parts and then they start to kind of disagree amongst themselves similar not obviously with with women they there's there's more they're going to say about covering but they will disagree so even with the malikia they will say things like um and some of the the other methods as well they say like okay up to the knees they kind of the so they bring the thighs into what should be covered and the kind of pelvic area

and the midsection but then oddly some of them don't even include the breasts in the uh which is you know you think well oh okay you think okay these guys were ahead of their time and then and some say well you know they might include the breasts but then they won't include like the the arms the neck the the the lower part of the legs and and basically there's nothing if we're going to be honest there's nothing in the quran that is so clearly defining these matters

what it seems to be is there is a stress in the quran sunnah about being modest especially in the company of others the rest has kind of been patched together so they've taken some hadith rulings they've taken uh you know the what do people generally consider um and and even i've got a whole video discussing things like they're here for women was this part of the older not part of the older so yeah so that's so my my actual response would be that you know if you're going if you just

want a a very traditional fifi ruling just go with what's in the books they're just going to say well the maliki books will say you know what's from her knee to the midsection and then some may say the back as well back her back and some may not include it and and the rest they'll kind of consider and what they mean by that is what a woman casually lounges around in at home and stuff in fact they even write that as some of the examples so that's fine otherwise that's the the confetti perspective what i would say

is really this is what the earth defines you know yeah so you believe that it's it's not static it's like it's constantly moving depending on where you live and on the times yeah so i feel that the concept of modesty is kind of the but it's it's kind of it's the way it how it fits does vary with region and your age as well as in not your actual biological age but the day and age so by the earth the convention so so somebody today um dressed modestly

um you know may not appear so modest in victorian times you know like if you're in victorian england whereas today somebody let's say a woman wearing a long skirt but she might have like her ankles or a bit of a lower leg showing and you know she might have like part of her arms showing and a bit but she's stressed very modestly not we would say oh that's very modest in in this part of the world but obviously you go back 150 years in england and that may not be as modest so i would feel that this modesty is defined by orlada because really that

is you have to remember it goes back to the ruling the ruling was it's not haram in and of itself it's only haram because of your social ramifications and if those ramifications today don't apply like you don't need to be wearing a burka to be for example safe in this part of the world like it doesn't you know you don't need to go to that extent i mean you you can do that but you don't need to so because if we go back to the makasid each time the maksa of this covering up was not a haram of itself it was a safeguarding issue

so if we keep that in mind um i feel the orf walada defines it okay makes more sense thank you i have another question this is not a question but a suggestion okay i wanna suggest something okay i'm gonna try to translate a saying that we have in french we say that words leave but writings remain i don't know if you have it in english you have so much like so much good content that is challenging to the traditional understanding of islam i was wondering why yeah exactly that's the question why don't you write a book yeah i i need to you know i need to honestly

i insha allah it's on my list to do i ideally appreciate it definitely and do message me as well on instagram and i'll always look out for your profile inshallah and sure yeah i'll translate it to to to french if you want for free insha'allah i promise look at that it do and see it's this love it's this love that drowns us yeah sir shukran for joining us it's been a pleasure my pleasure

people that was yasir from montreal canada i've read the french part we've got a 72 the man the man a72 the man people are a72 you do in it can you hear me i can indeed loud and clear how are you doing where are you joining us from tell the the viewers i'm from uh southern california look at that socal all right the california

the times always work out because i do it's always so late where i swear it's like it's like my my body clock seems to operate on that time zone yeah it it always works like you're on and on and i'm high from school it's so easy it's great that's why you know that's and for me it's like the vampire life i'm telling you yeah but you know you're rocking it man i appreciate it man all right look at that just drinking a gallon of blood right there vampire life yeah gotta stay hydrated

so talk to us man share a thought or what would you like to share with us today well first i'd like to thank you you know these people they're always criticizing you you know you're below it you know they're they're always criticizing you you know they've gone to criticizing us the fans look at that man they say you're blind blindly following and and i don't know what they i put you guys up to it yeah you're i think you're a tough skin you know it's um it's uh

worn off on us doing it now i appreciate that because it's good to see that and it's good to see people that one they of obviously it's great to see the love and support but it's good to also see the resilience in people you know that they it's about time people they take ownership uh of this theme because it's your dean as much as it's anybody else's and you know it's it's it's long gone

that people should be able to kind of uh just monopolize it and you know try and scare you away from it unless you do exactly what the cult does yeah yeah it's uh no more tech leader i i think that's epic man that's epic cool so what else is going on man abraham i i had a question no the prophet sallallahu alaihi saw them he's obviously he's preaching towards people not just muslims and they they have some documents right what type of what type of writings what type of

um works uh would he be engaging with uh like with the sabians or you know or like uh not necessarily the jews because or maybe the jews i'm not sure because they seem to have very strange beliefs you know like uzair is the son of god and uh you know where are these coming from what documents or sources is is he interacting with the the prophets allah himself or people after him the prophet yes the prophets okay so so right and obviously you know there's

not a lot of information exactly exactly it's like it's i think that's a great um that's a it's a great question the response will always be speculative because you know we we have to speculate we have to kind of infer from our data we don't the prophet hasn't told us or people around the prophet haven't given us you know they're not trying to tell us the exact socio-political backdrop so we have to kind of guess it um i feel that you see the prophet

salallahu alaihi highlighted this before that once you understand how arabia worked and there were the three divisions of arabia you you have to i i definitely feel that those because the prophet was in the middle the uh arabia patria but this this was like the kind of forgotten arabia the neglected arabia yeah um the southern kingdoms they were mostly christian uh sometimes they had a jewish reign over them but they um they were also at times part of the axamite kingdom within

abyssinia there was that they had their own even though they were christian they had their own flavor to them they weren't uh these would be like the nabataeans or no they would be the northern kingdom oh okay these are talking about southern right now southern so they would have certain statues and certain um you know they had a very like their writing was very uh like hieroglyphics it was a bit like that it was it was slightly a step developed but from hieroglyphics but it was still very shapes and you know it's not like cursive handwriting and it was called uh al-khat al-hamiyah

or muslim now they must have had substantially some unquestionably a degree of influence over arabia but it was the northern kingdoms that were the inheritors of the nabataeans that would have had the cultural currency and they were that's what you see they also connected with and were partly melted into the byzantine christian greeks so they spoke greek the the western part would have spoken greek but they would have had this kind of like a semitic language as well like an

arabic-ish um i mean it would have been arabic but maybe not exactly but they probably understood each other you understand um and the eastern part would have also had an arabic presence but the inheritance of the nabataeans but they also had an alliance with the persians the uh you know you would have had the sassanid empire and stuff so and this side on the east which would be modern-day iraq is where the cultural capital of things like poetry and the dawns of the arabic jailia were from

it was there was a city called hira and this hera was a huge it was like huge for the it would be today like the way people say london you know new york paris they say these kind of uh milan these kind of fashion capitals of the world that's how here i was it was seen as like huge by the arabs as in they always kind of it rocked it was like yeah so you know these major poets nabira and all these people that's where they would have lived they weren't in the arabian peninsula so these places definitely

had a huge influence now the scripture and the religions would have mainly been christianity but naturally it would have been influenced based on culture so like let me give an example like let's say today you have christianity in latin america right but the christianity of like mexico is still a very different christianity to like you know the deep south the bible belt in america for example oh yeah like the veneration of uh yeah you know there's that stuff but there's also a lot of culture like the way they

celebrate the day of the dead they celebrate all their you know they have all these uh you know their own kind of goddesses as well you know the the the the one spirit of death and but they're still kind of weirdly christian right so what i'm saying is that i'm assuming this is my this is speculation but i'm assuming in the past even though people were christian they still had their own little flavor depending where they were so like those who lived closer like the the lakhmids or the manadera who were under the protect they were protector of the sassanids the persians

they may have had certain persian traits to them but they were still christian you understand okay it's kind of like the hellenization of some of the jews yeah yeah yeah yeah so this is so i think these things were going on in the background it's definitely the case that when a lot of the early makkan quran is addressing some of it is addressing jews and christians and this is because they came down to visit or they were being brought down by the uh makkans to debate the prophet oh yeah and they were coming down from those capitals and because the prophet you see when he

emerges with is that why he makes this uh abrahamic claim so you know that i'm an extension of the judeo-christians so the judeo-christians weren't really strong in that part of arabia so they would have brought them in to debate him definitely that's definite but that's i don't know if that really answers a lot but yeah you know what this gives some i i think the problem is it's just like the the nature of the question it's addressing something that you know it's so old and there's not a lot of sources uh you know this type of stuff

so there's no like good hard answer you know yeah yeah yeah there we just had um uh taran saying made iconography came from south arabia it could be because you see a lot of that middle arabian kind of region was influenced heavily by uh southern arabia but i know that they by the prophet's lifetime there was this uh trend to try to northernize it you see you know it's a bit like how it's a bit like how because american

um products have more sway in the world so let's say american tv series american movies american you know there's just more swagger with the american thing hence you will find now uh in let's say schools primary schools and nurseries within the uk because children are growing up now watching so much tv some of them start have like american pronunciations to certain words because that yeah because they yeah because they see hear it all the time like they're watching netflix all the time like kids are and that's how they hear the word

so it becomes normal to them so they'll pronounce certain words i've even seen my daughter can't remember from but some words they will pronounce them how they've seen on them on all the tv shows so there's this kind of americanization of language which which is fine but as an example you see this in in places all the time so i feel in the prophet's time there was this northernization attempt to to bring that culture in yeah you know i think that when thinking about these things is very uh i have to keep reminding myself that oh you know the culture like um what was his name

uh dr uh javadi hashmi who you had on oh yes yes of course in his lectures when he's kind of contextualizing uh the prophets uh you know you can't forget about the cultural context but it's it's very hard to like quantify that you know how much they affect how much they affect yeah like their sources their interpretations 100 man you know that's something i wish we could really know i really do yeah now do you recommend anything to read to watch or something like that just for

general contextualization yeah you know what i would advise actually you could check out um because i tell you who's done good work on stuff like this um you it's actually usually academic professors you're not gonna find many religious people have done it because you know for religious people it's like ground zero is islam and everything prior to islam they've kind of just put it in the blind spot like they're not interested so you know there's this assumption that everybody was a jahil

islam came and everything started but it's not true like that and so you could watch some lectures on youtube by like fred donner uh he he he's great and if you like it you could try his book uh he he has more than one but you i was going to say also there's a book it's very um detailed very detailed uh but i i found it incredibly fascinating it's called i did a book review of it on it's on youtube called arab arabs a 3 000 year history or something and i said it's got such a boring title but the

book i i went through the whole thing on i bought the book as well but i went through the whole thing on audible because i kind of really like listening to stuff um and but then sometimes it would get that book will give you so much insight to all of these you know the kingdoms and yeah yeah but definitely do check your industry very good well check it out abraham and shukran for joining us it's been epic talking to you take care of yourself thank you mufti keep on the good fight shaka man take care man you doing it you're doing it people all right who do we have here what's going on

all right people people people we've got here ziyad muhammad muhammad that this is my sleep may i sleep after for you afterwards i'm good man how how are you it's a pleasure to to have you with us on this meet up all the way from

south africa i've been watching all of these guys videos and like your previous brother said it's a tough skin but it's been bugging me so much i've been coming to continuously just yeah in a polite way to say look we all won why can't you just have a discussion in the movie behind closed doors or in the open you know but i mean uh that's never you're there because we have to yeah we can't engage everyone but this is two things that

i just want your like your opinion of course of course look i i always think right why did allah choose the word that's the first word yeah so read right so i mean that's a message for the entire human kind and i i i play such big emphasis on this to say that look i respect all the scholars i listen to people and i take the good and the bear and leave the bed and of course i'll steer into my own yard and day of gamut but read reading for yourself understanding logic reason all the things that you preach i

i think that the institutionalization of the religion is so prevalent and the hierarchy and the clergy it it bugs me to such an extent that it just unifies everyone right that's that's one then to jump on i know what's your thoughts on that i know what you think of the order yeah no i totally agree with you man it's it's it it is very uh suffocating it's unfortunate um but you know we are in a new day and age you see we are in a very i feel unprecedented time not in the

obviously everybody's in their you know their day and age but we are really significantly unprecedented in the sense that you see it is virtually impossible in this day and age to suppress information and knowledge whereas 100 years ago you see the common person couldn't raise even you see the common person could not really take uh confidently take ownership of their own dean because they they didn't have the information and they didn't you see if they asked a question and they were

just shut down they have nowhere to go today information in fact we are drowning in information there is that much information out there i mean it's unfathomable you know it's yeah so now so that grip that the institutions had and the clergy or the these people you know the kind of gatekeepers of dean had has long gone it's it's kind of washed away that's exactly what i'm saying so it just because i know this time time and you give everyone a chance jumping

jumping from the first revelation right i i'll jump to the last thing that look i don't know what your opinion on the the last summon of the beast so it's so interesting to me too so i noticed one or two variations or three variations of it and that's where the three main sects maybe come from you know the shia and you know or in the quranic group type of sex but if you look at the sermon in in totality yes i mean if the business one just focused on just a few points he focused on justice he focused on being kept your brother

he focused on the family unit he focused on passing on the message you know i mean and that holistically is basically being good being pious you you have innate right in what's wrong so i mean you you'll feel what you're doing is right and what's wrong it's it's broken if you just look at the you know this verse of the quran that allah is telling you what he commands you with okay that that

that it is simply justice and compassion that is exactly and then it just extends to saying you know like do remember that you have rights to help people around you but that's just a you see really everything this whole message of islam just sums is summed up in this verse that as far as the dunya is concerned okay not the sense but the dunya it summed up that justice and allah doesn't explain you understand what justice is he

doesn't say by the way justice is people know what justice is and and just compassion kindness to people because really that that is it yeah yeah so like i said like the ribeye issue i was a bank i'm a banker and i'm still a banker for over many years and i don't believe in islamic banking like it doesn't make sense at all and how i take the bar issue is it was excessive uh um excessive interest that was the problem it wasn't the the fact of borrowing money so you know like the muslin hits my my

understanding for being in the industry studying and so on so like you said in many of your i mean your lectures and so on the misunderstanding and the the the damnation of people is it gets to me it's such a level and you can't actually engage many people on it at all because they stuck in such a way that you know in our small locality of of of allodium in south africa that we live in right i'll give you guys this is a small small actually real example you know they have these things called it's here it's ish and now you pronounce it like the

mass gathering yeah thing and uh like the sunni or you'll call it will actually say everyone one day they actually burned this so so they actually set fire to it so so there's so much division and it bugs me so much i mean it's a shame that people think we disagree with people on religion look i i disagree with people on religion i'm sure you do i'm sure everybody does to some extent yeah but you see to disagree over god and whether what how god

manifests or how god shows himself or what even god says or what is the meaning of what he says it should never be something that leads to hatred never like yes there could be a dislike you see a dislike is fine you could say oh you know these people are fools these people are idiots these people are [ __ ] even you know you could say but to start to hate is such a it's it is hard work on the heart

yeah because it is seriously it's very taxing on the soul and i feel that this this it's a shocking that people of religion do that it is you know i i read something i've quoted it before that recently where somebody said that he was an atheist he said if god does exist then he's worstly ever been represented by people of religion you know that the worst representation of him has been by people of religion but yeah i totally agreed so yeah shukran for that i think that's been great talking to you learn a lot from what you're saying and

allah bless you and your family and keep you safe i look forward to meet you from uh the next meet up in china inshallah take care of yourself likewise a pleasure salaam alaikum people that was the ad all the way from south africa people doing it do in upright who do we have here we've got hamad hamad has been here a little while hamad assalam alaikum

how are you doing and tell the viewers where are you joining us from from minnesota from the minnesota minnesota oh minnesota of course yeah it's just the way you guys pronounce it say that again you're looking for islam mike is is it hard to hear it by mike it's your voice is coming through but it's just coming through with such a it's kind of compressed in a way um hello uh yeah yeah it's good it's good yeah okay cool yeah how's so you for i look forward to ramadan this year once again at your home

yeah i mean alhamdulillah you know ramadan is ramadan and let's see i i'm thinking each ramadan you know we i try to have a little focus on something and see it through i don't think the taraweeh and stuff like that is really going to go down in the same way in the uk i don't know about america i think there's still going to be a lot of rules and regulations regarding kovid but uh not like people are gonna say musty not like you used to go anyway [Laughter] so i might as well pretend to be pious

what the hell but yeah why not alhamdulillah you know it's a uh what about yourself how how's the feel over there so it's okay it's okay it's coming it's becoming better now you know we're coming back to a little bit better all right afraid so cool all right that's that's good hamata what else is preoccupying your precious thoughts is this something [ __ ] i just want to ask you one question sure like i i like i agree i'm kind of leaning towards the view that adam was on earth but can you just explain this descending part

so um you're talking about we uh come live why don't you go down some of you will be an enemy for others yeah but uh you see ebitda um doesn't necessarily mean go down as in go downtown so even when moses is speaking to bani israel he says then go let's go down to a town and you know when they say oh we don't want this and they're kind of complaining and whining the israelites you see it's a bit like in english where people say oh let's go down to

you know like a certain city or city center or um they call it i mean you guys actually i think call it downtown yeah here yeah here we don't really say that as much but that's thing of going down to let's go down to uh it's commonly used it doesn't have to i mean it's used in the quran as well like the moses example i'm sure there's more examples as well but that just came straight to my mind so yeah it doesn't actually mean that they came from a heaven although people think that they as well people do believe that as well as a story yeah

because to me it would make sense that he was you see adam is uh it's because it's very clear adam is of the earth because even those people who say he lived in some heaven somewhere they say he was made from the earth from the earth material yes so they say so god took this earth material away and then they made him god made him but even then they're confused because the word in the quran which is used arjanna they admit is not the jannah of akhirah it's not that jannah paradise so they say well what is it then

so they so they say maybe there was another worldly kind of a paradise in this world that was made because nobody believes that adam was in the jannah of the afterlife nobody believes that uh generally speaking i don't i've never heard anybody really believe that what they say is that no that jannah of the afterlife has never been witnessed by anyone as the hadith states that you know

so they say that god created like another world somewhere so god created earth and he also had another world somewhere else like let's say another planet or a galaxy or i don't know and then god took the things from this earth and he created adam over there but then when he he kind of dis obeyed he sent him back to oh sorry not sent him back he sent him here yeah i mean it just seems a bit sci-fi but yeah you know it's uh i mean people do believe that don't get me wrong but uh to me it just makes more sense

that he was organic and of the earth yeah and he was almost in a kind of he was in a garden uh no it doesn't have to be a garden borough region that was obviously provided him fruits and stuff like that and um and i feel that what happened is consciousness got triggered and that was why he becomes embarrassed of his nakedness because you see embar to be embarrassed is linked with self-awareness yeah and like to feel shame

yeah like like a person feels ashamed to be naked in front of someone this shame is quite a social construct it's a social phenomenon so people don't feel ashamed usually when they're on their own they feel shame in the presence of others so it's quite a social phenomenon and and so and it's linked to uh a greater self-awareness and also like consciousness so this is why it would make sense to me that adam his consciousness was

triggered on that level and and that was why he felt ashamed of being naked as did eve so it mentions the verse says in the quran they began to cover themselves with with almost like leaves and things and feeling embarrassed all of a sudden now it's not that people before you see didn't wear a kind of clothe a kind of cloth a covering they did so neanderthals had a kind of covering they were but covering for pre preadymites let's say so the um

you know whether it was neanderthals or whether it was homo sapiens but not pre-cognitive revolution or it was earlier whether it's homo gaster or homo erectus or whoever high you know against this these home hominins that had covering like neanderthals definitely had covering it was more strategic to do with cold and heat it was about protecting themselves from the cold it wasn't about being ashamed okay so they weren't probably covering their private parts but they were probably had like uh like a kind of like probably took the hide of animals

and wore it to keep warm it makes sense you understand so it's not that so it's when he had a greater awareness he became embarrassed of his private parts now this is something most likely neanderthals wouldn't have had animals don't have like they don't feel embarrassed of their private parts and things so although they may feel embarrassed of some things but not that so yeah that's my understanding obviously i've got a video explaining as well that is speculation but i feel that you know like with the um the stoned ape theory as some psychologists suggest that i feel that it may have been psychedelics that

edged up they kind of they they kind of gave edge to consciousness and then the final blow was what the fruit that adam consumed um that was like the final it just there was a neural explosion revolution as you see right yeah yeah yeah that's my thoughts obviously that's speculation but i'm just you know i'm just guessing as everybody else is guessing why not well so cool well hamad it's been epic shukran for sharing your thoughts with us i do class one more exact this is

a quick question okay okay uh what is like what what type what forms are the sunnah of allah what kind of forms are there right okay that's a very good question like when you say when because when allah says in the quran now it's difficult because we can only play back retrospectively reverse engineer so allah is saying for the things that have been done in his way now what does that mean exactly because when we're saying well well what we do know

is that god has made creation and we know that when creation began one of the first things that emerges are like the forces of physics and the forces of these things seem to have been stable right through creation i mean because after the big bang you know within fractions of a second these are the things that emerge and then the forces kind of split off and become and they've been since pretty much creation has been these things have been but we also realize that what i would assume what i would say but this you know i'm not saying it's restricted to this i'm saying that this is the way which

god has set out uh creation with with the capital see the laws of creation and and and there may be laws that you know we don't understand yet you know so for example uh let's say the the strong nuclear force is what holds together atoms now before we discovered that it doesn't mean we didn't understand that things still stayed together we still understood that you know just because i'm holding this they don't kind of break up just holding it but we just didn't understand the nature of the force until we studied it

so yeah cool it's been epic shukran as always a pleasure to have such fresh intellectual minds on meet up man take care of yourself salaam alaikum people hamad do we do in it all the way from minnesota all right who do we have here people who do we have binyamin

[Music] i don't know he just went oh no here he is i'm good where are you joining us from i'm from brampton it's a suburb outside of toronto in canada all right canadians are doing it honestly for coming on and and you know joining us share your share something with us how can we how can we also help and and be a part

of your journey as well yeah muffy i wanted to uh to talk about something you quickly mentioned on a monday night um you're talking about art and uh you mentioned how you felt to some degree muslims kind of missed out on certain types of art and as an artist myself i kind of really resonated with that and i just wanted to get your perspective on it more because i have some of my own theories i think some of it has to do with you know kind of iconic classism which is really present in many forms of islam but i also think

a big portion of it has to do with colonization because if you just take india for example and you look at kind of art history muslim art history in india you see this kind of flourishing of very very profound and very realistic um miniatures uh miniature paintings and it's it's starting to take a trajectory was being set towards a lot of stuff using in the west as well in fact a lot of mobile artists were copying um works by uh european artists and you can see you see this amazing flourishing but then once you know the east indian company you know they did what they did it kind

of all dies out and you know muslims start becoming really reactionary and then you kind of that whole kind of tradition tradition until really recently it really dies out so i just want to get your thoughts on what do you think it's you know other than colonization what do you think it's um holding muslim back from those kind of more it is you see i feel that there were certain things on which muslims kind of i mean i'm not saying entirely but they kind of missed the boat um and one was

definitely i feel art and the other i definitely feel music uh that doesn't mean that muslims didn't contribute to art and they didn't contribute to music they definitely did it yeah but they but they kind of lost out on a huge stake so what happened is muslims kind of went into uh islamic patterns and the whole kind of uh you know fr uh or is it kind of fractal uh design illumination stuff yeah and you know calligraphy and they went in and they developed that massively but they lost you know they missed out on the boat when it came to

other arts like whether it's going to be you know different types of um you know frescoes or different types of just just general imagery and stuff like this they missed that boat altogether and that was and same thing with music it was because of the understanding that kind of prevailed that this stuff is haram in islam now it's not haram but this this kind of ascetic understanding prevailed that we you see anything that is

um linked with desire is um you know it's it must be from the devil it's a bit like how christians um have this thing of dancing is from the devil and it's the worst possible oh my god they danced you know it's i've forgotten that joke with what's it says he says you know i can't remember he's kind of recanting his sins and he says well we did this and and he says and then they i said we you know we committed adultery says we had sex while standing up or something and then

the priest says what and he says well he says oh sorry i thought you said then you began dancing for god's sake i would have [Laughter] he said then it would have been really bad you know it's like it would have been the devil's work but so it's uh you see so the way christians had it in certain ways they also had a repressive kind of massively repressive outlooks as well and to be fair for the most part in muslim culture there was a lot more freedoms than they were in christendom uh a lot more but on this thing yeah on art they kind of fell behind

and they they kind of compensated in their own way by calligraphy and by designing you know the the islamic actions right now yeah so that kind of design is very islamic yeah exactly that the shapes and the way the designs are done so they kind of substituted art with this this this is the art they went into and yeah and i do feel that it's a shame because you know art there's a world bar you know as i started to learn more about art and you know the the famous works of people from the renaissance and coming right up and there's just a whole world there you

know like today these things are worth ridiculous amounts of money you know i mean i mean i'm not trying this isn't about money but if you want to associate value like look how people value it i mean the what was it the uh salvatore mundi which was mundi which was bought by i think was in mbs mohammed bin salman yeah yeah of course it's a da vinci and he bought it by uh he bought it for over 300 something million yeah right now i'm not saying that this isn't about money but it's it just speaks the value the world gives this

today now leonardo da vinci i mean is so many hundreds of years old yes fair enough but there's no arabic or muslim representation like that there's no there may be an art there may be an odd kind of one-off kind of thing but there isn't a world that exists there's small they're small pockets of like realism you see in different muslim contexts you see it a little bit in iran um a lot in india for a few hundred years then it dies yeah yeah but the thing about representational art is that the reason it's so powerful is because it opens up windows okay similar to

how psychedelics open up windows yeah and i feel that these things i actually feel that a lot of the you know if you look at uh like south american art or people who have a culture of shamans and things like this i feel that a lot of their art is inspired by their psychedelic troops of because the patterns that it's you know the aztec designs they are definitely the patterns you see when you're tripping i mean that's that's exactly what you see hell yeah even even some psilocybin will do that i mean you will see that these exact

colors you will see the exact patterns and that's just wait you know that that's not a coincidence that's a i could say that as a fact that they're taking that from their trips but you know the other abilities synesthesia the ability to to to all of a sudden see sound yeah what the sound look like you know these things and that's another thing that muslims unfortunately have missed the the boat on this whole psychedelics but but maybe you see to be fair the whole world kind of in the last few hundred years missed the boat on that apart from these kind of remote cultures like

in south america and certain kind of shamanistic cultures but now in the last few decades people are trying to catch that boat they're trying to get on and they're appreciating wow okay this is a whole world i have a buddy his um his wife she's connected to a bunch of shamans in uh in peru and he went in march and he's trying to make me go with him so maybe next time i'll tell you how my experiences definitely i mean ayahuasca i take it you're going for and yeah yeah i i mean that's a very uh you know it's a very kind of purgative um experience because it is a very

cleansing process as well and i think it helps people with um you know if people have had maybe if they've had trauma but also people sometimes who suffer from addictions yeah it can kind of clean there's a very deep cleaning effect cleansing effect but it is a very strong powerful kind of obviously it's not you see i don't describe things like dmt as being fun i don't think these things would be i wouldn't put them under the category of fun or recreation or these are very they are overwhelming they are otherworldly i mean it's something which

it's definitely you a person would bring back with them in this world the experience but i wouldn't describe it in any way as being fun but i would describe it as potentially life-changing right so i think it's yeah yeah so and it's a shame that the the religions are so out of date yeah it's also uh you know if you it goes to a lot of the films you face you know you you if you give people these doors they're not as easy to control and a lot of these institutions that's why they they're really hesitant to it because a lot of it does have to do with control so why why would they you know encourage

people to try psilocybin and you know have their own experiences even even like the the you see this in a very you know a very distinct way between the early sufis and the later institutionalists right 100 the early like like she she um she wouldn't even like meet with male students she would have some female students and and that's it and she was very very iconoclastic and the same way with many other these early sufi i feel that you know a lot of these early people who truly walk the path that they were walking the path of psychedelics as well i

definitely feel that hundred percent and and you see those sufis exist in a time where sufism didn't actually exist right so sufism is a an ins has was institutionalized in the tariqah hundreds and hundreds of years later really i mean these these people i mean some maybe but many of the you know they speak of these people janae then all these people just

these people precede the the the emergence of thorough right they in their day and age were just seen as like these kind of mystics that just became you know they were just like in their own world and um yeah and i'm not saying people i'm not saying people need to become that but i feel that you know it's a bit like uh you know joe rogan he he he had this um it was actually on one of his instagram um thing and i just i i read it and i thought just i'm sure i've quoted it before but the same thing applies to to this topic of psychedelics as well

it's that he said that you know in 2021 a person people are prepared to put a person in a cage because he will harmlessly in his home inhale a plant you know like let's look how dumb that sounds i mean can you believe this is the free world of 2021 it's like living in sing yeah and the same thing could be said about you know you because they're prepared to eat a plant you're prepared to eat a you know a mushroom it's like what the hell is wrong with people i mean it's like what does he have to do with anybody else

so yeah and i feel that it's you know i feel the future generations will look back at us and laugh uncontrollably in hysterics that how how totalitarian this world still was that we live in today yeah that's that's a great point but i feel that definitely binyamin you need to uh i feel that everybody really um you know with obviously i i'll put look the path is obviously it comes with being sensible just like anything you know that goes without saying and i think people who

you see people who approach the path i see them as of two kinds one is people who are just in it for fun recreational to me that they're not really people of the path these are just people who would make maybe just be curious or they may be hahaha i want a good time partying people they're more in it for a party but then there's people who want to understand the nature of reality they want to understand what consciousness is they want to really delve into a deeper you know they want to go into the fabric of of what exists they want to be in the

presence of god that doesn't happen in the masjids you know so to those people they they have to then set upon you know this is the this is the muslin it's the path so yeah but i inshallah in i feel in time to come much more will you know people will start to open up more and more to this kind of stuff and societies and generations and but even you know religions with the things you were saying before about art

yeah um about music you know i it saddens me that we haven't really tapped into music as they because you know music is so powerful powerful beyond message i don't think there's anything more powerful than music well i'm an artist a visual artist but you know sometimes when i hear a beautiful piece by bach or something or even sometimes heavy metal no it's it's you know because for example my art is something very temporal and is something very limited it's visual yeah but the music is completely

psychological should i tell uh i've shared this before and it ties into what we were just saying you see it's been long said in by by shamans worldwide that to get that what connects with consciousness is sound and i feel that you know it is seriously i i i found myself in recent times powerfully drawn towards just instrumental music right yeah i've you know and i've never really i mean i've historically appreciated music

and liked it but i've not been obsessed with music i've not been somebody that can't go without music or you know okay if i'm driving or if i'm at the gym or you know stuff like this i don't mind but i've not been like wow i need music i need music but in recent times i found myself so drawn to instrumental music yeah and it's so powerful i it strikes seriously at the soul and i say that in yeah and i feel that this is a shame that uh because in the muslim tradition this did exist because you had the traditional maristans the hospitals and part of the

therapy if you look back in in the ancient you know if you go about 800 years in muslim books on tib and they speak about the the hospitals or what they call the maristan as well like being the ill person they one of the treatments was music they used to say that we used to treat them with music it would help yeah i mean the ottoman exactly exactly there's a he recently passed away a brilliant musician from turkey i can't say his name but uh his ban is in turkish it's kind of hard to pronounce which oh there was a there's a turkish guy i just came across in

the last couple of months he has this i don't i don't know his name i think his first name might be mustafa i can't pronounce i don't know how to read the turkish you know they write the script with yeah but he has this yes this track that um it's an instrumental called uh the girl in the woods she is your destiny it is so powerful honestly it is it is powerful i find it powerful beyond measure it's it's a small it's like a three minute kind of instrumental but it's so wow honestly you know if i i'm i'm not sure how to do it here yeah i haven't fiddled around otherwise i'd play

live just to show people but yeah yeah definitely you got it you got it for instrumentals i've quoted before there's this there's this guy effie also cross i i listen to some of his they they are um [Music] i find them he has this one uh as long as god will love us um and he has this one um if if you fall i will carry you these are all instrumentals by the way um um and it's really uh yeah and these are they really i mean they

pierce the soul i mean these kind of things they are like uh this was the other one i mean you'll see the pictures to them but they i mean you guys can't probably see it there but uh it really it's a very slow you see the thing with these is they are like slow instrumentals like they'll be sentimental and yeah incredibly sentimental it kind of like i don't know if you can hear that yeah this is you know when when you got to be on your own and you're like

right yeah and you have to you have to that's yeah so and that and the other guy i i think the other guy is actually quite a passionate christian actually i think so because a lot of his titles are kind of uh given christian um but his is i've i you know i can i can listen to them doing anything honestly like [Music] [Applause] but it is it is instrumental yeah it's

very epic very kind of like honestly really you know and i feel that it it's a shame that this culture doesn't exist it's almost seen as bad you know nina's like people say stuff for a lot of haram and stuff and i feel what a shame i remember when i was in when i was in high school for a short amount of time i was um this was when i started you know discovering islam taking it seriously i started to you know you come across opinion music hot on so i stopped listening to music for like a year i remember like i would it was really

it's like when i think of that time it's like a nightmare i would just think of certain pieces like from beethoven and i would just long to listen to it then it's actually when i i watched your video on music that kind of finally let me re-experience you know this no i i went through i went through that as well uh i went through that phase that music is haram and and i did stop i stopped all music i started i remember you know there was a time when i i mean i was probably like what 21 or something but there was a time when so it's like a lifetime ago but i actually remember to the extent that uh i was traveling

let's say in that particular time i was studying in pakistan and i was traveling and we're going and and if it was a small like let's say a van with uh just a small amount of people i would insist can you switch the music off please right yeah you know because it's hard and i remember like on certain occasions stressing it like you know i i've i've kind of been there you know when these people uh these kind of selfies and yeah i i know what it's like i've been through it it's not like yeah i've been in that mindset as well yeah exactly sometimes they think oh i've you know this person doesn't know he's just uh i've been through that you know i've been through that phase in life and it's you know as sad as it is okay

it's interesting to experience especially when you're young and then you mature out of it hopefully without causing any significant harm right um yeah but benjamin it's been amazing talking to you it's been really enjoyable yeah a quick recommendation i highly recommend you should listen to um the b minor mass by bach oh by bob okay

i think it's one of the most absolutely fantastic things ever created by man so check it out i will do take care of yourself people people that was what an interesting discussion honestly you know it's not every day you meet people that have such interests and i think i'm very weird like that i find myself very weird you know i'm a very weird person i think i i have like very peculiar interests that don't then i think i would be i i don't know how well

i could i mean i could gel well with people in you know great to have conversations and stuff but i i think it's difficult finding similar like-minded people because my interests or likes are so kind of weirdly peculiar you know like i actually like learning and i like learning about the dean and i actually like that and i and then there's things like i like this i like you know i may like going to the gym i may like i don't know it's like a i feel it's an so um you know like uh

i don't know it's it's a mess who do we have on here people we've had i think some people have been waiting quite a while my bad people my part let's see up safety up safety up us give me a second i need to change my headphones no i problem i know i problem are you doing it safe man you're rocking it with that here i gotta say thank you honestly i i always wanted like kind

of curly hair and it's like i i had hair that was so straight right oh yeah i got lucky with curly hair so yeah when i was about when i was about i think 20 19 20. i perm my hair proper curled it because it used to be really long i still have really long hair so proper cold and then it remained kind of like curly and permed for about maybe one and a half years or something but then it just went like all good things it just went down right so safe talk to us where are you joining us from

oh i'm from new york city from nyc on the big apple big apple that's it all right so talk to us safe man share something with us yeah well i want to say thank you for your videos it helped me a lot with the quran and uh i really like the your understanding of evolution when you mentioned khalifa and the root word comes from like and i thought that was very good inside uh it's unorthodox so right yeah because yeah because i mean

historically because obviously they didn't know what he was coming after so they wouldn't have you see because it's i don't think that it's not because they wouldn't have uh you know stop arrived at that conclusion or that the word didn't mean that to them it did you know like it's not you know la miata do it they did but you see to them they assumed adam was the first so why then call him khalifa do you understand because it would mean something which comes at the end of but they didn't know that there was a long line of hominins they wouldn't have known that back then

so to them they may have then just assumed well okay maybe he is uh you know from one angle he's coming after jinns because they assume that jinns came first another angle is they may have assumed okay god has then kind of put him there to take care of and this understanding starts kind of creeping yeah right so yeah so i just i just i find it odd how they didn't see the root words like you kind of notice it i know i think that even though they're like closest to the arab

arab yeah now i think i think that they i says legend as it must he was born with gerald here i think they did see that but the issue was that they didn't see the context so it didn't add up because you see khalifa can come from for example it can come from this uh you know mahalaf or khalif what comes at the end of something is the khalifa which is the more closer meaning but it can come from like to put you to take care of something now you see

even though to come after is the first understanding that comes to your mind and both kind of fit both fit that you know in one way humans are the kind of stewards of the earth as well but the other way it wouldn't have made sense to them that what has like we don't get it like what has adam come after do you understand so yeah because the understanding wasn't there they probably just went with the other one you understand or maybe he's just there to take care of

so so i think it basically i think uh the understanding was auto-correcting so okay so what what would you do for words that are uh you know mentioned once or twice in the quran and it's very hard to kind of analyze it with other verses right those words are used like maybe right those words are like used very in figures like maybe five or seven top and

when i read it when i read those uh verses like al kurudu and el hinzir it's very hard for me to accept that those are animals because you know i don't believe in a god who turned jews into yeah yeah right absolutely but you know and according to the context i would attribute negative like negative words to the two words right but i don't know the meaning i don't know the real meaning right i mean okay so what what do you mean what what is the question on it like as in

so my question is like okay so i know like muslims don't eat pork right jose are you okay yeah yeah i'll tell you what just give me a second i'm gonna save you i'm gonna bring you back on here okay just give me a second okay guys give me one second i'm coming i'm just kidding alfred

people los siento lo siento sorry where where did he go where did he go safe safe safe where are you there you are all right all right sorry sorry yep you were saying sorry about uh do you mean are these metaphorical no well i don't my question is like according to the context right i think there was like a group of jews that were making fun of muhammad or rejecting i don't know they're just like rejecting him right and god says you know uh and i misguide them and i made them into pigs and apes or whatever right uh if you

remember i think it's chapter 5 verse 16. so according to not about not about the prophet not the prophet but it's saying about the israelites in the past so it speaks about those who for example god had in the time of like not in the time of moses but it just says the israelites of the power were given a particular covenant and sometimes they were they were given a task and they kind of tried to pull one over god in saying you know when they were allowed for example to fish and there's a verse in the quran but the point is when they

went completely off and kind of disregarded god it says now does that mean they were literally transformed sorry right yeah so in my understanding i i would reject that kind of interpretation where they physically of course yes of course and in my best understanding and like in in i think best way possible like to translate these two words which they're used very uh they're not used a lot uh you just say okay it's something negative right it doesn't

have to be animals because god says you know every everything between the heaven and earth you know submits to god the believers or whatever except for that display within legends or iblees um no so my point is my conclusion is i don't believe that eating pork is haram and uh my first premise is uh all food was permissible to the children of israel before the torah was revealed right that's right so by this reason you know that ibrahim noah joseph everybody before that they came before the children of israel eat pork or they were allowed to eat forks right

sure and then after that when god sent down the torah god told us a few prohibitions on the jews because they broke the sabbath and picked they were just like you know the fat or the goat or whatever and at the back and i don't know i don't know if you remember the list yeah yeah i mean so there was that that we chewed the curd and they were allowed to eat certain you know that which had

yeah so those animals which uh ruminate their kind of food right and but if you look at the torah you'll see like oh shrimp is haram for them and all that but i don't believe in that because i think that's just meant i believe that the quran was sent out to kind of solve all their disputes so for me to believe pork is haram because oh also god says like the muslims can eat their food and marry women talk about the jews and the christians right and when god never mentioned pork for them and i can eat their food doesn't that make it a contradiction if we prohibit okra and not them

you know what i mean so okay i mean that's uh so that's a good question right now because there's a bunch of questions there that are kind of like tied together one is we are one is that um there would have been a time or there would have been people unquestionably who to whom pork was not haram and i'm pretty sure that must have been the case you know like so i doubt it from the time of adam ali salaam things were haram like that and i although i don't know

where the pork tahrin began were there some profits for example that also told the people poke was haram it could have been but we just don't know i don't know nobody really knows because we don't have that message but we do know the israelites definitely for them they got that message that pork is haram now most likely when pork was made haram it was made haram for a particular reason yeah so it was made haram because most likely because of the kind of food poisoning it was causing and things like this this is most likely this is speculation but most likely the reason

even till today um pork is often the one of the few meats that still if slightly undercooked can cause dangerous food poisoning unlike the other meats so obviously beef is is relatively very safe but a chicken obviously needs to be cooked but not the way so if you just even youtube certain things not religious things you could just youtube about uh sausages not being cooked properly if they still have some pink in them and how this could lead to a particular type of food poisoning that's still today even in the modern world now

uh so i do feel that this taharim was mild to do with harm that paul was causing then there's a secondary aspect then there's a secondary aspect the secondary aspect is that okay now that it's been done in religion it also can take on a ritualistic nature a ritualistic nature now the ritualistic nature is not the primary focus it's not the primary reason but it can serve a secondary step in this ruling so pork um the prohibition of pork for example had this ritual element to it also

ties in with an identity element this identity element has then become a worldwide global factor that oddly unifies because it is symbolic of identity today so so for example today circumcision circumcision and pork or abstinence from pork are symbolic immediately of jews or muslims worldwide now i feel that that is still a very powerful marker uh and one therefore that i would fully endorse that you know that pork

still i would go with it being haram even though i understand that if cooked well today it may not carry those harms and it may not carry these things but i still think that even identity and a sense of belonging are incredibly in fact i believe are increasingly more valuable in the modern world where people are questioning identities and existential identities so yeah i have two things to say yeah yeah that's okay but like for me when i read lahm and khaziran right so first of all it just means

a meat part right so for me i think it's better if we translated any meat that is you know disgusting or that it looks bad you know that makes more sense if you think about it because you know the the hanziri and uh we turned them into apes and yeah at this point the angels are gonna be like

i don't know if he was part of your plan but he's got something that makes a bit more sense [Laughter] i mean like they say you use your and also like when you said identity didn't god tell adam like the best clothing is taqwa and not uh you know yellow clothing or something like that he could have given a uh clothing for us but he said the best clothing spiety or something like that so i feel like the sense of identity is just being like you know a good boy or a good woman uh you know do the good just speaking no no no no no no because like what

you see this i'm not sure okay it's you see because the problem is there's so much that has to be some questions are very simple but the answers to really give a thorough unders or some to give some meaningful impact there's so much that has to be said which is a problem because then it becomes a handicap kind of perspective because the question is so simple but there's some you see identity i'm not talking about just simple obvious biological markers in the sense that this is a boy this is a girl i'm talking about we you know as the world

opens up to more and more comfort and luxury it frees up more time to think yeah now as the mind starts to wander it finds itself all of a sudden in a labyrinth of existential angst it's not like how you know if you just had to work hard for a living like you just had to go to the farm and just work work work work you wouldn't have these you wouldn't even be worried about these questions of identity or because you are still at a survival mode your mind has not been granted the luxury to philosophize

as this world enters has entered an age of amenities we now find ourselves with these philosophical conundrums and they are terrifying for people you know they are terrifying so i do find that there is a human need this i feel i feel that psychologically speaking there is a human need for the sacred i definitely feel that whatever that the sacred is but there is a fundamental need

so if you look at atheists and you look at people who are outright militant atheists now that the decades have gone by and atheism you know first it was sharply you know it's like out there fighting all the you know they were out they bang bang bang the age of hitchens and these people but now that it seems to have stabilized you know if you listen to these uh dialogues that they have they now speak of the the vacuum in their lives because there isn't the sacred so they try to come up with substitutes because the human

psyche seems to have a longing for the sacred so i feel that we do have certain things in islam that are the sacred and they have already been provided so that's one that that you know it fills a void it is a commandment that exists in scripture it also provides a unifying global identity marker you see muslims wherever they are in the world they do not eat pork now you may say well it's a bit meaningless and that makes that may be true but identity is very powerful you see i can't explain

the power of identity in just a few words you'd have to look into psychology and the incredible kind of studies that have been done on what at the problems with identity and how they lead to crises in life and and your crisis might be something else like you might be struggling with all these things but it ties into your own identity crisis that is going on and i don't me you see when i say identity crisis you see the problem is these things are also hijacked by modern day oh my god an entity crisis wearing a t-shirt i didn't regret this no i don't mean it like that i mean i mean it at a deeper deeper spiritual level okay they're at the

psyche at the level of the psyche so to me these markers are incredibly powerful i would say you know if if religion was made up if religion was to be made up the person that came up with these things was an infinitely incredible genius because he hit the mark like you don't understand how powerful because to come up with an icon that is actually quite easily refrainable like you can easily abstain because you don't have an instinctual need for it

so no human beings don't no no not you human beings don't you see human beings don't have an instinctual need for a craving for pork you may have had a cultured socialized craving whereas you see you have an instinctual need for for sex you have an instinctual need for certain things but you don't have it for pork you have it for food but not pork so it's actually a very easy such so within reach yet so powerful in the emblem that it serves within identity i think at this stage of life you probably don't appreciate these things

but when you walk a certain amount you know you walk down the road of life and meet people and see things and see struggles you see you understand like how da vinci said that the greatest form of that simplicity is the highest form of sophistication that actually the most complex things are those that could be put out so simply and this is one of those things that i i don't believe it's man-made but i would say for atheists who feel that religion was just man-made this was one of the most genius things

from their perspective that somebody has ever pulled off that they've managed to unite people and create a sense of belonging that is global based on such simple markers that are easily actionable whereas saying something like you see if i said to you you have to do something which is actually hard that is not a unifying global fact like if i said don't commit adultery right that can never be an identity marker never it's impossible for that to be an identity marker because you see one it clashes with the human instinct to human societies even if they embrace

that as a morality slogan they will never embrace it as an identity marker it just doesn't human beings you see anthropology doesn't work that way it's not enough to create an apparent identity where as food is surprisingly uh and the abstinence from food is even easier of a marker because you see it's a passive step so eat these things like pork i know you see you're looking at it from the aspect of oh well you know okay uh you know i it i can cook it well today it won't poison me but right i see in it elements of

immense sophistication that are so simply executed that people worldwide like a muslim you you you know york you where you're seated new york there's a muslim in australia there's a muslim today let's say in south africa muslim in china i'm here in you know in the uk somebody in india somebody in pakistan somebody in uh russia right all sharing you know like like there is an aspect that for example if you came in in touch with each other you would have certain factors that immediately unite you and you would say yes of

course islam but you would also see practical elements you see this is why the prophet said in the hadith that he who faces the pibla yes now that's it now you see okay that is fine you know that's a belief aspect but then he said well there be a hatana and he you know he kind of abided by our dietary rules for that muslim because thereby what the prophet could have said was a uniform but he didn't he could have given a different social aspect but he gave one of dietary regulation because it's easy wherever

you are like you can keep your culture you can have food the way you want to have food but there's a simple thing that bonds you and binds you with others worldwide i actually think it is quite um you know it's intricately amazing and well sophisticated but i do see i understand your question um but i would still endorse this ruling i i would still say that uh even if people could say that pork today if we cook it well you know it won't be poisonous it won't be this i would still see the power in abstaining from it whether it's from the ritual side

whether it's from the identity side or whether it's simply from in in in the in the sacred in the need the need for of the psyche for the sacred which to be fair there are other sacred in islam as well that's not like i'm just saying no no i get that yeah and the sacred is also a prohibition you see because the haram which is the sanctuary is also the haram you know masjid al-haram why because and like you see in china the forbidden temple because the forbidden also has this

the the sacred to it but yeah i think these are we get distracted and these decisions that's a nice perspective actually but i appreciate you uh saying that because it's given us this opportunity to discuss this safe it's been awesome having you thank you discussing this with you man you take care of yourself keep rocking it with that hair man oh yeah thank you yeah oh no i want to drop my dog because someone uh made a shout out yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah get second let me grab them what

well that does mean you know look it's like oh yeah yeah no i took it from hana lulu because i like a lot so yeah yeah like people people claim people claim that that's taken from arabic alam they say that the people first said that here are pearls look look it's like pearls and when they got there some people said look here are pearls i don't know whether that's true but i heard that years ago but all right safe take care of yourself man and send me a message on instagram and i'll look out for your profile oh you actually look at those

okay i do like you i actually shows what wrong life i have it's a pleasure it's a pleasure right take care of yourself people saved the very interesting discussion i mean it's you know it's it's good to have sometimes very challenging questions because really that is where that is where we excel and i feel that is where islam truly excels you know in in that it can it can it doesn't shy

away from challenges it doesn't shy away from questions that are challenging now people may have heard that and they may not have agreed with uh the way my my angle of my response to why i so they may agree that poke is haram like i said but why do i still feel the ruling is very valuable today but still look this is a contribution isn't it like you may you may just say no i just feel it's because of this reason but i i feel that's the power of this theme that it it is confident and secure

to be asked anything you know like ask away well let's see who we've got waiting damn some people have been waiting habib hamza all right what is going on assalamu alaikum we can't see the camera the camera can't be on musty today happy

well you know i am i am happy but look we've got loads of people with their cameras on so i'm gonna have to give them a chance because they're waiting but it's been epic speaking to you uh take care of yourself habib will speak soon right so people since we've got so many the whole studio is full we've got like so many people on here and more can't get in and they're all bachari are waiting there with their cameras

uh i'm good i'm good how are you doing samia remind us where are you joining us from uh from canada uh toronto area canada is rocking people look at that man the amount of people the amount of chilled out people you have in canada this is like there must be like a whole vibe you know like i i feel like canada it's very different from other places where like muslims are settled in the west where they they feel like they're almost more in touch with the canadian culture than someone maybe from the uk or from the us who

is a muslim as well yeah yeah go ahead go ahead no i was gonna say that's actually an interesting um point because i do feel that people who are from canada even from america i feel that they are much more comfortable in their skin than like let's say british muslims or you know british yeah definitely british muslims um yeah because some british ethnic non-muslims are still more comfortable in their skin than the muslims are and i

feel that because the muslims here have one the the background was very as in not their own but their parents who migrated their background was one it was very rural and it wasn't kind of um modernized before they came to the uk so they kind of they kind of harnessed that rural mentality in little pockets of communities but secondly they then kept a very strong link culturally between that uh mindset and the homeland so what it did as an adverse effect is it

kind of that the children that grew up then they they kind of grew up a bit neither here neither their kind of thing not really belonging anywhere yeah so you guys definitely imam what what's the ethnicity if you don't mind me asking uh palestinian do in it samia do in it alright yeah sami is much more slick actually yeah yeah it's hell yeah i like flowers i like it i like it sami that's a slick name you know that's

actually a very arab name like yeah they see muslims don't really have it but i i think they should it's it's a really cool name and sami you're doing it man you're doing it so talk to us man sami share some something with us so so it's actually related to what we were talking about earlier um so what what like sort of piece of advice would you give to like the newer generation of muslim like of western muslims who are trying to identify themselves as muslims but also want to be rooted within their own local culture instead of just sort of being the that

outsider muslim immigrant kind of person yeah yeah right so definitely i mean i feel that look islam look see somebody wants to name their kid after you sami it's right here sammy it was at that moment that history was made right i you see islam is for all times and all places now everybody says this but not everybody many people are not true to it though they say it but then they twist its meaning that look islam did not come to

like i don't know like ariba size the world to make everybody into seventh century arabs then there would be no point of humanity you know it's not like if islam reaches the eskimos you know in in in the snow and the ice it's not gonna tell them okay start wearing a lungi and a thobe and slippers and flip-flops and walk around you know doing that that's like that's not what islam came for to turn everybody into what arabs look like i mean there's nothing wrong with arabia and the arabian peninsula and the culture what i'm trying to say is that allah says in the quran

that in your diversity is a sign of the divine allah himself says that in the quran you know that look at the way your tongues are different the way you you know your colors are different and by colors it's not just your actual you know always not just your the skin color i mean that's obviously a color but it's how colorful your lives are like as well the whole biaticum everything is different you know it's not how colorfully different you you are as a people so obviously to think that this is only

speaking about the color of the skin i think is is so reductive allah is speaking about how colorful you are as a because allah says so that you may come together to know one another so in this sense i feel it is amazing that muslims can be so different and yet still you know like i was just speaking a bit earlier on about being connected with a bond that we you know we bind by faith and yet we're so different you know uh people we can eat different foods we can do different things we you know can look entirely different dress entirely different have different

languages yet we still feel a sense of belonging you know and i feel that that is something really if in my assessment it is unique to just the muslims worldwide to have a community a global community that feels a sense of belonging that is so huge in number and so diverse ethnically i don't feel that i don't feel that that is shared by any other group worldwide the only way it's shared is either they are a very small ethnic group

that have kind of spread out so like jewish people or sikh people or but they're still actually one ethnicity or they're not so large in number because it just doesn't happen like this they don't feel there isn't that like even if you take christianity there isn't that like let's say you take a christian from south america and take a christian chinese yeah you know yes i mean i don't feel that they will feel necessarily a bond like uh generally speaking they're not going to oh oh masha'allah you're christian you know it's not whereas you still find

that with muslims everywhere you know it's like oh marshall this person's a muslim and they feel an immediate affinity um and i think that something you know almost um it is one of the hallmark kind of uh achievements of islam to have established that but yeah so i i definitely uh apart from just celebrating that but i feel that we should keep our diverse identities you know we should be comfortable in our skin uh wherever we are um and it may take time though because you know people

see the problem is that it's difficult because people you know these migrant communities are still relatively new you know they're just a few decades old in the west and it's hard because people are you know they still feel very you know the the eye effect that people are watching me and people are yeah the big thing i fear here is that people will lose the like lose their connection to the dean and it will sort of be become permanently severed from them and then sort of because you see this with like like other migrant communities like

within their own like their their cultural identities where they like to take like the italians in america or the irish and america 100 years ago they might have been their own distinct group of immigrants but given 100 years now they're indistinguishable from the regular white person who came who came from like that is 300 300 years ago you see that is the fear that people have now i i just recently i mean okay i was speaking to um uh i mentioned it on my live

to uh sheikh nadwy is great from the uk but with him there there was a guest and you see this was one of the questions he put to me he said that look what's the uh are you still one second oh god oh god oh right sorry i thought you're talking to me i was like okay no problem no problem sami you tell us when right so uh i thought do you have to go it's not a problem if you need to leave i'll just carry on answering and i'll take your thing off one second yeah go ahead and do that okay sure so um

right so that's sami people but the question that he's asked is very interesting and i was asked this and and the person you know great person keen supporter but very traditional you know and he's he was older than me and and he very respectful uh and he said you know he asked this question he said i fear that you see i i agree with you in all these things but i fear that the way you are completely non-traditional in your dress and things like this that you see if the younger generation will start doing this which to be fair they already are

but he said like if they start doing this then the generation after them i feel that the whole of the tradition would disappear and i think that's a that's a good question that that's a very good question i'm and i've said before first of all i'm not against clothing of any tradition i'm just against the mandating of it and thinking that that is islamic okay but that's just a little footnote i want to put there but the the main thing is you see i feel that yes you are worried and insecure i get that and and i

understand it but i would like to double down and tell you that believe me you have nothing to worry about iman and islam are much more powerful than that they will bind the souls of people together that you see you what you are just worried about is the apparent the superficial the veneer islam you know it cuts much deeper than that that iman the power of faith

even if you know people feel that in 50 years time from today our offspring okay apart from color how else will you tell them apart in society that we feel that if this message is relayed we will tell them apart through ethics through morality through what they stand for humanity and through their faith that you see it doesn't mean like just because you don't we're a thobe does not mean you do not have a love for the quran it does not mean you do not have a love for for the deen it does not mean that you do not have a connection

and this is my reply that i understand this question i i deeply do but i um this is why i'm saying i'm that confident to say that and i would double down in saying that look believe me you have if you do pass the message of islam in the loving way that it is not in this horrible tormenting scary kind of cultural way you pass it as it is that you have nothing to worry about that this the roots of this message go so deep into the soul that it will shine you you

do not need to think that just because your great grandchildren will not wear a shawarkamis or a thobe or a heart or you know that they somehow will reject islam that is not these two do not follow they are separate entities so i hope that makes some sense guys let's um all right um jesus would have forgave a night somebody's saying can i please uh bring on go on then muhammad you're doing it

go on let's get you on the show it is bloody hell it's almost uh muhammad how's everything good it's good where are you joining us from mohammed lou i'm actually in new jersey but you know born in brooklyn so don't worry about the hat man brooklyn you're doing it i gotta say everything about america just sounds cool doesn't it it's like brooklyn it just sounds so cool man yeah you gotta come out here you know what i'm saying whenever you come out here just let me know we're gonna take care of you i'm sick i'm seeing that whole is stallone in

some of his movies linked to brooklyn because i'm seeing that stallone vibe right there man there's still this just alone man i can't you gotta keep that under the table you can't you know you do it is it is it there was somebody here i think you must have had him on your team he was spamming saying bring you on bring on bring lu on i was thinking you know what you must be the messiah i must take one

i told him i was thinking like i'm gonna we're gonna miss the boat here people this is it the messiah is here it's time guys everybody's forgiven so talk to us share something with us what's going on yes so you know um i actually watched a video of yours my brother actually watches you quite a bit he loves your content so thank you for what you do um and i saw one of your clips where you were talking about how um you know shorting is halal or and i just want to bring that back up because there's a hadith and i've kind of looked into this myself i'm not a multi obviously but i just want to

you know i did my own due diligence of course and you know i saw that like it talks about selling something you can't own right and so whenever you do a short sale you know you're actually borrowing from the exchange and you're technically selling it and then it sounds like you're familiar so i was looking for the validity of the actual hadith and just in the in the clip where i'm speaking about shorting i'm actually mentioning i'm kind of speaking negatively about it uh i'm not speaking about how uh elon musk hates those people short and gives the example you know you couldn't sell a house that you don't own you couldn't sell a car that you don't own you know how the hell do these people get away with it

because and and i give in that clip i'm speaking about the whole gamestop versus uh the wall street uh thing and and i mentioned this in there as well now so there's two things i mean as far as the uh morality aspect is concerned i do kind of agree that uh what these hedge funders do i feel is kind of immoral it's cruel and in that aspect i would kind of agree in it being haram because it devastates lives um you know devastate like like they could just destroy a company

i mean like this like the way they tried to destroy tesla it's just you know it's just cruel like you know you get these powerful wall street kind of guys who you know and they will just you know because of whatever reason they will kind of gang up on a company and they'll just short short short short and and then it kind of creates this avalanche effect that people are like oh my god oh my god something they must know something quick sell sell and it's like the company just and you know people commit suicide people i mean and you don't you know it's not obviously you understand why they're doing it because it's like you could you know your whole life just plummets within minutes

and um it's sad and i do agree that that kind of stuff being haram although i'm not linking it to this hadith i'm not linking it to the fact that you don't own it this this i feel is a very superficial way of looking at it uh i'm linking it to more the aspect of the immoral harm that it's causing on people like people who've worked hard to build up a company that is because they don't short these your corner shut up i mean they're shorting like huge huge companies you know

multi-million uh dollar companies that are huge now i'm not trying to say these multi-million dollar companies are angels or saints i mean i'm sure they've got their own track record of kind of uh atrocities but what i'm saying is i don't agree with that wolf like you know unleashing these wolves onto people and just because they happen to be these wall streeters they can do that they wield an immense amount of power by just tweeting something now so i would agree with you that doing things like that i would agree or haram based on the immoral unethical harm

that it causes and it does on it's not uncommon that it takes lives because people kill themselves and that's not i'm not saying it's common that everybody but it's not uncommon either like if you look into people taking lives these it happens now that said do i feel just short selling is haram like if you went on to you know you just decide to short sell whether it's cryptocurrency or whether it's you know you just went on to your thing and you cryptocurrency that's where it is i mean that's why that's the main reason like why i look at it definitely not on the hedge fund level of course not but uh i'm

i have a finance background i work for like a finance company and like you know i i trade myself so i definitely like look at it and it would be very good for me myself there was the active participle not the past not as in the uh i mean otherwise that would be a more colorful lifestyle yeah no i i definitely like right now even right now like i take positions here and there but the thing is it's only long position so buying low and then trying to sell high later right and then you know obviously there's other opportunities where i could short technically but i want to do the right thing and i want to definitely like that's why i brought it up but i know you're about to add to a second point there so i'm gonna let you

continue sorry no shukran no so what i was going to say uh is that you see this on a regular scale i don't feel these things are haram i don't feel that the hadith that you don't own something doesn't mean that you can't set like today like drop shipping for example if you set up an account like i encourage people look they should be entrepreneurial you could just kind of you know there's many kind of drop shipping sites you could just get the things make an instagram page you could start selling things you can make different sites and you get them drop shipped now you don't actually own them but you are selling them i don't feel any of these things are haram

uh you see the problem with selling something that you don't own was more about the disputes it caused later on but today you operate within a framework that it's fine now that said coming back to this where you are short shorting companies you're shorting um stocks or whether it's crypto or other things now on a low level where it's done like this i actually feel this shorting or longing this is actually part of the game even these bigger companies don't mind i mean i'm sure you one could say they don't you know oh they don't want it but really it serves

into a bigger because the way things go up down it creates an interest it keeps things you know it keeps the market engaged this is not the i don't feel that is haram at all but yeah at a attic you know at the level that those hedge funders were doing it at to destroy companies like they would you know they could just pick on a company and destroy it potentially um now that is there's a there's an unquestionable level of cruelty that is going on the obviously they're making money in the process but they know that they are being very cruel in the process as well that's not the same as you kind of

trading as a broker or you know you're working for some uh some company and you're kind of making some profit by doing this and then you say this by this kind of like buy and sell that is going on in the greater scheme of things actually serves the very company because you kind of keep an interest alive in that company because the company is still on the list of what of what people want to buy and sell with so you know not every loss is necessarily a loss for the company right and just to confirm that in that instance technically what you're saying is that hadees doesn't play into this framework and it's because of the context is that is that what i'm understanding

yes so uh the hadith is actually in a context where it would create disputes and problems which to be famed the most part today this is why i don't feel that hadith necessarily applies today because we're in most of the most of the world today you would have operating frameworks so when you are buying and selling there's already commercial laws that dictate the terms like you know you have so many days to a cooling off period you have this you have 28 days you have 14 days if it's a you know virtual kind of transaction you have this you have that these laws are already in place so you

have a safety net to fall on that's why that hadith wouldn't apply that hadith was there because they were not safety nets so you could you you make a deal today uh and then you now rely on the money but i renege and i say well i'm not giving it to you i'm not giving you the product and you've kind of uh oh you've spent the money because you were expecting me to fulfill my word and now you've got a problem and you've got no laws to protect you so the hadith were there as laws to safeguard you to say well no you know make sure you have it in hand and then sell it

you understand but today in most parts of the world that has moved on and they were look and even historically they were they were hadith for example this hadith of uthman i believe in his time buying and selling land which was in sham um and selling it before he's even gandhi so you know he couldn't have gone there and taken ownership of it because he was still in medina so so it's not that they weren't doing this but it was more about the disputes so today i would say that hadith in in many parts of the world does not apply really because of all the laws that are already there and the protection

so if you for example bought something from me online and you've signed it and whatever the the cooling period has gone i am now mandated to deliver and you can take legal action against me if i just renege and i say well i'm going to give it to you tough i need to give it to you and there's laws that would enforce that so the hadith was for a time when there were no laws that said the shorting thing that you mentioned i agree that's to do with uh i i feel that would still be haram at that level at that huge level but not at a normal level

that normal you know you other people mean whatever us kind of people trading this normal uh level that actually serves the market right yeah that's more like a manipulation like you know i mean like they're probably setting the market addicted yeah i know exactly what you're saying because you see i see things like the market as a living organism and a living organism it has like it also needs bacteria it needs viruses to kind of improve its immune system it needs you see it's it's part it's like the pros and cons of a living organism it needs that so it needs fatigue

it needs these things so this kind of buy cell buy cell long short long shot in the bigger scheme of things they serve the market because you see not every not every loss in trade is necessarily a loss because you can offset losses you understand as a company you can offset losses you can and that serves in your own interest these greater companies than offset having to pay certain taxes based on losses now it's not so there's a there's a complexity to all of this it's not as simple as every loss is a loss a loss can actually be a profit you know in in certain higher thinking ways once the

accountants but uh yeah so so i don't think any of this is haram but yeah if you were doing it in a way that you were gonna just destroy people then i feel you have a moral responsibility to think about that and if you choose not to then that is haram got you yeah okay and then sure you know i just want to get that one last part you said osmano was selling lens in shams yeah so i i'll have to double check that uh but what's coming to my mind is the narration of uthman just in case it was another companion but there is a narration where one of the companions

is sold a piece of land and it is distant so he's in madina but the land is in sham and then after a while somebody else says to him look i tell you what will you sell it to me instead sorry not instead will you just sell it to me i want it and he sells it but then this evidence is used for those people who say that you can historical scholars who said you can sell things even if you don't own them they use this ether as an example it's coming to my mind as earthman but just in case it's another companion i'll double check it but there is a narration of a companion trading like that definitely i'll watch out for the next monday for sure and super chat

you got this whole cool vibe going on about you man honestly i love it message me on instagram and i'll i'll keep it uh you know i'll keep a lookout for your profile any tips by the way and you you want to send them to me send them on instagram thank you so much people that was muhammad law that's what i'm saying man people you know what there is so much talent amongst muslims and i feel it's a shame when our talent is restricted by just religiosity you know people say and they kind of like restrict the talent

people it is getting late i believe it or not still have an episode of a series to watch [Laughter] i want to eat some food as well yeah so hmm well somebody fascinating it's early muhammad ali is doing it he was he was indeed doing it i tell you what let's say some quick salams uh we'll have to keep it a bit brief because it's gone it's almost two and a half hours shad man let's bring shadman

i'm good man i'm good how are you keeping shout man i'm gonna handle uh yeah i was waiting for a bit i just i've got like a bio test tomorrow so i just oh wow yeah wow yeah cause i see anything come on man we gotta gotta get one on there well i hope the test goes well hope the test kills we it's uh living life walking the path that's it man

that's it but so cool chad man i'll just try and get on squeeze on some other people but it's yeah for sure uh just take take care um if i just got one question if you don't mind kill one quick answer if this is my problem i can't say no i'm joking i say that then i take him off so just quick question so uh you know how the jews have been so in in in medina right they were like three like jesus quick question you know the complex issue you know this new force within within physics that they've discovered

sorry carry on yeah okay so you know how they they committed treason right under the prophet sallam he he wanted basically like there had to be justice served on them right so the jews asked the prophet sallam to like ask for for sabbath to judge upon him there and then saban wanted to use the torah to basically judge upon them and scholars generally did it like deuteronomy 20. deuteronomy 20 13 14 where it says like you know execute the ones that were uh execute the fighting men and take the woman and children as captives right so sad moab basically did that and the prophet saw replied by saying um you know this has been a just judgment or one or a godly judgment so i just want to ask you uh so imam

probably will bring the narrations that 900 jews will have executed uh ibnis hawk uh our beloved ibnezhak would bring around like 600 you know what i mean and different reports so we'll see different thing uh different things so how many jews do you think were like executed um in bani kurita and we know this was like a treacherous tribe so like no no first of all i'm not sure about the narration that the prophet said this is the judgment godly judgment i've not come across what i've generally come across the understanding uh is that he says um they say because they say we want him to judge

uh not you not the prophet we want him and then he judges and gives that uh gives that understanding so and his understanding is like very you know very harsh and and the prophet leaves them to it because they asked for it now it was treason and in that day and age they did used to see capital punishment for treason now i don't write so i don't believe that the numbers were how they were demonstrated later on just because of if you try to tie everything in because there's all these varied narrations like oh whatever happened just happened between assad and maghrib

and they say that they also buried them and then came back and you think well how how is this even happening right sorry i have to do a shout out for rhys all right sugar and sugar and for the love and support you really didn't have to but shook and much love now look so it just doesn't add up how could have they done all of this between you know uh because they're going there and the prophet says look don't you know uh the famous hadith i had to come don't ever don't pray until we reach bani and then and and so it's before asar now and then

the narrations say they leave by maghrib time and they've also buried the bodies and you think well how many bodies were these that they were burying that's only how long is it between us in a reasonably static climate with like arabia it's you know even if one says it's two hours uh that's still not such a long amount of time to do all of this stuff and bury like you know hundreds of bodies and come back so in my understanding that i feel that there were certain people that did you know bear the brunt of their treason it would have most likely been the chieftains the chiefs of the tribe yeah the ones who are responsible the kind of movers and shakers of the

tribe so they would have probably been the ones that were punished um that's in my understanding i do think that if you look later on the historians the historians are people like al-qurazi he is muhammad muhammad i believe muhammad al-qarathi but his is actually from the offspring of bani koresa now i feel that some of these people may have kind of to they may have kind of i don't i don't know i'm not saying him necessarily but people along the way may have exaggerated these narrations

especially when that eva in the opposite time arises of this kind of anti-semitic anti-jewish sentiments kind of bubble um i because there definitely is a period i i feel that i've spoken of it in the past i feel there's more than one period but there were these kind of like this um punctuated equilibrium this kind of relationship that we've had with the people of the book especially jews which has generally been stable and positive but it's been punctuated at times and in those occasions i feel one of them must have been around

early abbasid period and it's the time when a lot of translation is happening i think because the jewish people may have been those that were able to translate and they were given a lot of importance uh by the caliphs and they were given a lot of money and positions of power now this may have caused a lot of resentment amongst the clergy who were also rivaling the royal courts to have that special position and that special favor so it begins by this kind of spurting this kind of hatred against jews and look our tradition they betrayed the prophet and blah blah blah and i feel it's in

those kind of times that to scare them and to raise these sentiments it's these things are amplified the prophet killed so many jews now yeah if you look at the famous statement of imam ahmad he said that three things have no [ __ ] in islam that these things were really just very weak and was one and this comes under the magazine yeah so i definitely feel that this was um i feel there was some kind of like foundational truth to it that there was this treason that took place and there was a punishment that sounds very reasonable but i

i feel that it would have just been the chieftains that were held uh responsible unlike this thing of let's just kill all the men and do this it just doesn't sound it doesn't fit in as they just wouldn't have even logistically it would have you know that it just wouldn't fit in that they did all of this and then came back and did this in medina and did that and it just doesn't add up but yeah you might get full hadith analysis one day like let's let's let's

uh with his very quick question oh my god if that was quick i don't know people i can just do a very quick uh let me do a very quick uh greet right who do we have here mahmoud abdullah i'm good man look at all these stylish people coming on you look at the vibes going on man this is it this is reminding us look how that we're all look how old we're getting in life huh moving on all these youngins coming on

these like mushroom top hairstyles where are you joining us from uh louisville kentucky in the us kentucky people kentucky fried chicken man yeah i'm just uh i'm gonna go ahead and let you go but it was nice talking to you i'm just gonna finish up my camo urine right you gotta stay healthy that's the way yeah exactly one cup a day one cup a day okay i'll see you take care of yourself man it's a pleasure having you salaam alaikum look at that people much more doing it is doing it right

i'm chilling man where are you joining us from you sir i'm from i'm from new brunswick canada canada new brunswick hey i'll ask you a literally like a 30 second question i just want to listen though what do you what do you think about um about vaping yeah sure i don't think it's haram you don't think it's haram at all no no not at all all right that's good because i'm like i was like i'm like i'm like i kind of vape now so like i i thought it was kind of haram's like i felt kind of guilty and stuff no man god is much more merciful and magnificent than making vaping haram uh now vaping is

and in fact it's even i mean it's you know statistically much more safe to the body as well than regular cigarettes and stuff so yeah man keep vaping yourself good don't worry about it you're gonna have yourself i'll go get a fat hat you're doing it you're doing it look at cool kids man cool kids honestly this is this is what it is it's good to see people all right we've got uh mirza afraid

how are you yes [Applause] if two persons um say if they shoot a video and say to each other look i accept you as a spouse okay then share it with people is it a valid marriage because the video is actually better than a document okay yeah yeah that would be valid so for example if a person uh so according to maliki

that you see to do the actual marriage so okay according to everybody the real marriage is just the acceptance two people accepting each other that's the actual nikka now which they call in arabic ijab while kabul just accepting now according to the malikiah can be done in private without anyone however then you should announce it to people that we've done this so according to maliki according to the others they say that witnesses should be always present for the ijab but according to the malikia because

the prophet's own weddings like when the prophet married many of the wives nobody else was present so so what he did was he announced it after he kind of got married he said i've married such and such so if you did a video of let's say you uh i don't know is a video and say hey you know we've got married me and whatever it is and you know we're now married can you make dua for us whatever and you share this video publicly that would suffice islamically as a nikah it would suffice here yeah thank you mufti i really appreciate that sorry i've got a feeling there's going

to be a quick wedding going on and mirza you're going to be sharing this video i'm looking for a spouse for a long time but i couldn't find how's my hair stuck you're rocking it mine look at that ladies look at that can you see that the frizzy hair right there single ladies out there look at that you can hit him up you can connect with him look at that his lovely mother was there in the background giving her words see right there you've got a family people you've got a family all right that's awesome well mirza you take care of yourself enjoy yourself and salaam to your

dear mother as well inshallah may allah bless you take care of yourself people that was mirza rocking it all right well we're going to have some video circulating now where mirza is going to be there with that frizzy his thing all right people come rodin where are you joining us from man uh perth australia all right perth australia you're rocking it man you're rocking it

you're doing it you're doing it man right do you want to quickly i don't know share something i know we are pressed for time though so i do apologize but still since you've got these awesome earphones on and i'm a fan of earphones i mean what can i say you look like a gamer are you into gaming yes i am you know what you're gonna you gotta teach me some stuff you know because i gotta go into gaming after ramadan right so you gotta insta me send me some insta tips what kind of gaming are you into right now nothing [Laughter] but i'm thinking you know what i need to

go into gaming and just live stream a game every now and then so i'm thinking how difficult can call of duty be come on i just gotta go around shooting people yeah how difficult is that it's like it's the american dream isn't it so the americans will understand uh are you are using computer or console i'll use a p i've bought a pc a gaming pc yeah oh yeah so uh shoot me too high with the mouse just aim for people's heads that's it what do you like playing i like uh strategy games all right see now you're making me sound very dumb now like i feel like i feel like damn like can we

can we go back and i can i come out i like sophisticated i like playing chess i like playing right okay what's that what's a strategy game what's a good strategy game uh you can try the total war series so they have um uh the medieval period they have the roman period they have the uh european 17th century period okay wow okay they also have the shogun the japanese they also have that you're doing it man you're doing it where are you from ethnically if you don't mind me asking well i'm mixed are you really mixed all right because i was getting mixed vibes actually i was getting are you what pop

arrow hell the united colors of bennett and right here you're doing it you you are a an emblem for the united nations [Laughter] ah that's amazing man shy i would love that you know if i had so much different diversity uh in terms of relatives and that would just be amazing man we envy

you yeah yeah so that's that's real cool man do you speak many languages no only english and malay malay but you can learn i grew up in malaysia and i tried to learn arabic yeah yeah you're rocking you know what you could pass as an arab as well mind you the past is that you could pass as a regular they see this is what i'm saying you just you've got you can blend in you're doing it you're doing it for joining us today it's been good right do uh send me a message on instagram i'll look out for your profile and inshallah stay in touch take care of

yourself keep gaming man keep gaming can i can i ask a few questions oh you're still here oh yeah no no yeah uh we are rushed but go on they're very quick though uh so with your psychology degree and what's your view on asperger's because i have asperger's all right okay oh do you okay yes make things easy for you right okay a view in terms of what what angle what do you mean because um it's a testbed of religion and like social i have issue with yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah [ __ ]

i was just about to say damn does that you know the jokes i was coming out with you probably won't get i mean they they probably are all right so okay first of all i apologize for the joking that i was doing because they i don't know if you were getting them but uh yeah i mean uh sorry the question being how do we underst what was the question no so no people probably view religion and social gatherings and stuff like that like normal but uh for like autistic you you view them differently like you don't really feel comfortable in like big gatherings and stuff yeah like fighting prayers um distills me i can't really sit there with the whole big crowd

yeah yeah don't don't i don't believe you have to go if you you know if you anything that disturbs you like that you you don't have to participate you don't need to force yourself to to kind of be uncomfortable and stuff like that and it's not just uncomfortable it's anxieties and it causes anxiety so you don't need to force yourself in those positions look there is a lot of the ease in this theme this thing has been made easy and i would advise that you know that that is there for you what when things if things can be made easy you can take it you don't need to take it but if you want to take it you can

allah is more understanding than people so yeah don't let people make things difficult for you don't let them yeah inshallah allah bless your journey may allah make things easy for you you know despite or in spite of the challenges you've got in asperger's i can tell man look just even this very short interaction with you that you've come an amazing way and you can tell that you're incredibly uh accomplished in your own achievements so you yeah you got to be rocking it i'm sure man i had to i had to prepare myself for like three hours uh before going on

so i thought mashallah that's you know but look each person has a journey yeah and you yes there are these difficulties okay and these challenges but each step of the way just think of it that allah is rewarding you okay and you you know you may have had to prepare yourself for hours here you may have had to and you may have to do this for other things

but and other people you may think well look such and such person doesn't have to do that but allah says maybe a great powerful soul in you that can do that and allah rewards you every second of that where he doesn't reward these other people so inshallah i mean may allah make things easy but hang in there i'm sure just just your wonderful smile tells us man shahid that you you yet you're doing well inshallah you're doing well i don't really okay

you take care of yourself shahid hang in there thank you send me a message man any time i can help you i'm at your service okay you take care salaam ali thank you people that was shahid from perth it just goes to show you see every person is has this struggled you know it's like how plato said that be kind for everyone you meet is fighting a battle people this has gone quite a while uh only one two little uh one two guests i'll just say salaam to the quranic islam quranic islam we are rush for time but

how are you doing how are you doing i'm good i'm good where are you joining us from quranic islam well from the villain sorry that just went slightly off i kind of missed it the middle east middle east oh middle east middle east our middle eastern correspondent our middle east our correspondent joins us from the middle east

quranic islam we are a bit rushed today man yeah you guys your love your it's just really talking to you guys is amazing and and i get carried away you know i need to be more disciplined to to squeeze in more people i get no no it's beautiful the type of people you get in here so i really like i uh thank you thank you that's it's a testimony to you to all the viewers well quranic islam you take care of yourself have

people we gotta start wrapping this up we've got um we've got imme immediately it you're doing it what's going on [Laughter] here

that's an iconic statement phrase from imran khan the prime minister of pakistan he says before he begins any speech that okay first of all there's no need to panic or worry [Laughter] i'm good man how you keeping how you keeping yeah i haven't shaved i need to go shave man this is you don't need to shave yeah you've got that you've got that new york swagger look going on well you had a lot of people from new york today i know what's going on man people i watched uh

naif patel and uh and he said that no one calls you in new york so there you go see there you go it it beats that doesn't it people saying you see people they want to make out that look nobody's hearing this ah this is nothing and the irony is that these people need to talk about me just to have people to listen to them i mean that is a sad state of affairs i mean i take it as an accolade really i take it as a it's it's something i can wear as a badge of honor but it's it's so sad now that i said that i

expect to check in the mail of course now we're going to go to paypal and as they said that i gotta that's your paper yeah okay okay i have a quick question for you actually there's so many people here from the west and uh it just came to my mind that uh you know a big thing over here was the northeast versus southeast for the kidla

and uh you know chef knew keller he wrote a book about it poured in a storm and he really argues that it has to be like northeast uh shaham the yusuf said it makes more sense to him southeast do you think it's a big deal do you think you know with my common sense which isn't going to be very common and neither is it going to be sensical i would have assumed southeast is the general thing uh that's just you know like from a i suppose people might say from a flat map perspective that's what comes to mind isn't it you just think well america and arabia and you think like well southeast

um but i understand the globe you know how it doesn't necessarily work that way when you put it on a kind of sphere so i would personally would have just if it was up to me i would have just gone with the obvious um which i would have thought to me would have just been southeast but that said i don't think it's a big deal i don't think you know i know in america in some places they point the other way totally isn't it it don't they no i haven't seen that have you i'm sure i've been i thought i was told that some people go the other way around don't they no they don't go this way that's in you know on a flat map it's going to be

this way as in east uh oh i suppose what oh no no what are the other are the other people going west south it's southeast versus northeast northeast right somebody had told me some americans were doing it west but uh but even if even if they were um the i don't think these things are the the end of the world i can understand though they would cause confusion if people in one area are all doing like on this road we've got two masks and one let's spread that i would just hope

that people would have common sense to just kind of come to some middle ground and say okay let's just do it this way you know what's the big deal yeah they go uh let's go both of you are we're pointing to allah you know years ago when i used to teach in a school right so i think i've mentioned this before and there were these there was the sunshine group that i used to teach

right and it's just like coloring and stuff but uh so this one and obviously some of them had uh difficulties like uh social difficulties and so uh i mean they weren't physically disabled or any but they had obviously difficulties and certain maybe learning disabilities so this one time this fight kind of broke out between two of them and they were just like 11 year olds yeah or 12 year olds like that they were just the the lower in the years so one of them says something to the other's mom and he goes you know your mom and he goes your mom so i'm just seeing this erupts in slow motion yeah so they come together

and they they come together and he's looking that way he goes what'd you say to my mom here what'd you say to and that one's looking that way he goes well what are you gonna do about it what are you gonna do they're not looking at it they're just gonna look at you stop laughing oh my god what was like in stitches because they're just like they're looking in opposite directions they're just going like that he's like

so that's what you've going on got going on with the qiblas it's like is that where you start where you oh we had we had a must have been flushing that uh used to face one way and then they the new imam came and he switched it to the other way so they called him the thing oh wow ah well amy we gotta you know what i better wrap it up man it's been a pleasure as always we gotta catch up stay in touch man keep sending your memes take care much love much love people we gotta wrap it up a bunch of people saying

uh uh kill one then one final one anayat what the hell what the hell man assalamu alaikum anaya there's so much you've got a lot of people trying to say um i just wanted to like how's everything how are you good where where are we speaking from tonight uh i'm actually um so lou's on the second floor i'm actually on the first floor

look at the swagger this is it look at the hot people oh no this is a this is a little something i got from luke you gave it to me as a birthday gift you know i wanted to ask about um this is pertaining to cryptocurrency of course there's something new called staking where you know you deposit your crypto and they give you a certain percentage back in crypto right but you're not you're not you're not lending the crypto of course they're they're getting these the the crypto that you deposit you they would run uh a node which is like a device that kind of creates more crypto in a sense okay so i just wanted to know is this halal

or is this like land is it because because they are giving you a percentage back but yeah definitely i feel like it's i feel it i also felt that what they're doing because finance does this a lot as well you've got all the you know you can farm it as well and stuff and but the uh you see i also felt that what they're doing is they're kind of locking you in and thereby stabilizing the coin hopefully by like because there's also because when people buy things they also sell them sometimes quite quickly and if you stake it there's also that angle i i thought as well that they you know because some of them like if you uh let's say uh sxp or whatever like if you go to

they make this like a six month they will ask like you know if you stake it for six months then you know this then you'll get it back but we'll also give you this in the meanwhile you know in the interim uh so you can get a card for example from swipe and and these other things yeah yeah i've heard of i've heard it i actually got mine because i stayed whatever so um i don't think that's haram you don't lose anything your coins are there the only risk is that they're saying well you see in six months time that queen could have devalued yeah it can develop yeah it can develop but this is why they're getting people to stake it because the more coins out there

the people are having to buy newer ones and it's kind of like providing more in circulation and giving more value to it whereas if you'd like you buy let's say a thousand coins today and you sell them tomorrow it's your coins are going back whereas if yours are staked they're buying more from what's available as well i i thought that would have thought that element contributes as well but no i don't think it's haram at all it does have that little risk of it losing value obviously this question came up um you know speaking to my boy um he's one of my close friends and uh he actually he actually works he's the one saying he's saying let go of your beard is that him or is that another friend of

yours busy he's working on it okay he actually works for crypto he works for storm x it's a cryptocurrency company wow okay so gulalay was telling me and uh he was saying that you know there you go the staking itself is not you know haram but yeah you know he actually works for the company stomach so i don't know if i should believe gulate or not you know so there's some bias there because he works for the company you know i see i see but i don't think i i just think that you have a uh i don't know somebody asked or is you doing it my linkies stay stinky i don't know what that means or is is that one of your boys no i don't i

don't know i don't know right so but uh but shukran for much love for the support nonetheless right now so i think look like in all business there is a risk assessment and and it's i feel you are treated as an adult to make that call you know like i could go out today i mean i could just be selling something on ebay and i say you know what i'll tell you what i'm gonna buy this yeah what the hell right so these those of you that don't know people it's not a this isn't the blade you get the so you could just buy anything you know you could get these things and just say look let's

uh and and it doesn't sell you know i don't get no and that's a loss so you could it's a it's a business call that you're making look let me stake it i think it's going to go up anyway and in the interim i'll make these profits it's a risk you could lose the value but it's your call i don't think it's haram i think it does require your personal kind of responsibility you know you you have to kind of bite the bullet it's your last if you lose but if you gain it's your you know it's your profit so but i don't think it's haram in any sense anaya all right you're doing it man send me an insta message on instagram you guys are rocking it mine i like the way you know

like guys thinking and out there and entrepreneurially and i think that you know you this is the future for the muslim generation they need to be enterprising they need to be out there and aya take care of yourself man thank you so much one last request please bring back lou we need lu on here i see well he's gone now next time we'll bring him on it man you're doing it take care of yourself look at that man see awesome young muslim people out there with talent this is the future people i'm telling you the future

is bright people it's been awesome it's been epic it's been emotional guys we got to wrap this up he said oh my god three hours people take very good care of yourselves have an awesome day wherever you are if you do want to reach out to me instagram is usually a better place and if you haven't already liked and subscribed to my youtube

what on earth are you waiting for get on there man take it up i'll say salaam to you as well man i'm sorry i can't talk now since we're signing off but it's been epic sorry i know i just realized you're waiting there where were you joining from anyway where were you i do apologize but was there something you wanted to quickly say i mean you're more than welcome what the hell you know since you're since you're there you're live you're being streamed go for it what the hell yeah

go for it no like uh i can ask my actual question next wednesday but um you would i think you said i've got an actual question i was just about to hit the space bar and remove you i just wanted to say uh thank you because um after i found your channel like it's been easier for me to just understand the deen without like all these movies kind of screaming at me and things like that and i appreciate that i'm glad and i'm i'm happy that it's been helpful to you and also that it's you know it's given you that kind of courage to connect to the dean of course but yeah

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