Early version. Transcripts and tags are labelled by accuracy tier. A position is shown only after two independent reviews have found it in his own words.
Mufti Abu Layth ArchiveBeta

Recordings › Monday Nights with Mufti Abu Layth

Monday Nights with Mufti Abu Layth: Session 101

salaah namaz prayer salaat namaaz as-salah al-salah salawat hajj haj hadj aqidah aqeedah aqida creed aqeeda aqaid hadeeth ahadith ahaadeeth hadis hadees ahaadith saheeh sahih hadith saheeh hadith sound hadith authentic tafsir exegesis tafasir tafaseer commentary ruku' rukoo imaam imams prayer leader ka'bah ka'ba kaabah maaliki malikite malikiyyah maliki school fatwah fatawa fatwaa fataawa legal opinion muftis halaal permitted haraam forbidden sunna sunnat sunan prophetic practice dalil daleel adillah adilla proof mutawaatir tawatur mass-transmitted saheeh muslim imam muslim muslim ibn al-hajjaj kufr kuffar kaafir kufar kaafirun disbelief iman imaan eemaan eeman kalam ilm al-kalam kalaam djinn jinnat jinni sihr sihar jadu jadoo kala jadu sorcery shaytan shaitan shaytaan iblis iblees shayateen shayatin satan jahannam jahanam jahannum quraan al-quran aya ayat ayaat aayah aayat wahy wahi wahee sahabah sahaba sahabi sahabiyyah sahabiyat makkah makka mekka madinah al-madinah madeenah yathrib shiah shiite shi'i twelver ithna ashari salafism wahhabi wahabi wahhabism 'alim aalim ulama ulema ulamaa shaikh sheik shuyukh shaykhs da'wah dawat da'ee invitation umma ummat deobandis deoband zina zinaa zinah fornication in sha allah inshallah in shaa allah insha allah inshaa allah alhamdulilah al-hamdu lillah alhumdulillah alhamdulillaah subhan allah subhaanallah subhanallaah as-salamu alaykum assalamu alaikum assalamualaikum salaams salam alaykum wa alaykum as-salam greeting duaa duas duaas supplication al-din ad-deen ad-din rahmah rahma rahmat

video · 2:12:12 · 11,000 views · 20 Nov 2018 · Open on YouTube

Press play to load from YouTube. Nothing loads until you do.

Transcript

machineauto-transcribed, may contain errors · source: youtube auto · click a time to seek · dotted terms open the glossary
0:02

we take like a far oh wait nobody's here the joys of speaking to yourself just share this one mentor shirt from this phone look at that it's all right mom you know

0:42

when your phone start freezing is that the time that the that the network or the company is trying to tell you that you need to buy the new model let me just see one momentum momentum right now alright so I'm sharing that

1:38

Arai so in alhamdulillah wa kafa salat wa salam o allah rasool allah mustafa ala a DIN ladina Toba a member who da master da Bobby Arthur Almudena testify were bad people for Salam la allakum an asylum become marhaban one Ying lighter bienvenidos a todos people and of course a Gotham saga ton of rice and I'm from Scotland doing it what is the topic there are a few topics as always people

2:16

there are a few topics on tonight I will be looking at also how we address stories from the Quran that's one thing I'd like to look at I'd like to also look at and take some of the questions that people are saying I'd like to highlight a recent very friendly discussion dialogue now that I was involved in also people I'd like to say a few words on the village wars and update shared the gossip everybody loves a bit of gossip on what's going down

2:55

with so why not somebody's gotta do the devil's work right so that's something we'll share a bit about a little later on on the on the village wars between a slob and what's his name the man the Bundys from up north so what's the latest on that it's always it's good to kind of take a some popcorn time to time right so what's going on more of is online all right you've an asylum become

3:32

its liquor night on multi Abu layth multi Ebola is Monday session Almo lead its Almo lead isn't it all right Osama is in the house people now right Rush Rhees homicide become people as you're tuning in click like click share need not go through the protocol with you guys - for your allegiance for the deviation there you go click like click share that's a let the world know of your rebellious state

4:10

that's what I'm talking about that's what I'm talking about so what else is going down people last week we had mom always live right so somebody said rash saying happy mo lead arrived Momo is in the house Saima Mohsin and Khalil half a G awry well people are tuning in last week was the centenary as the hundredth show people so we did it live from the ark it was actually it was it was it was great fun actually I thoroughly enjoyed it I

4:49

must say and I thought to myself you know what this is actually quiet fun we might do maybe maybe we might do once a month live from the ark so that would be it'd be fun it'd be interesting and it's good to meet people you know it's good to sometimes you see people like this March they just said Salaam alaikum now some of some of you guys Facebook faces for all I know your computer algorithms you have no reality but you know and I have an actual show and you

5:28

turn up it's like what the hell but it was great last week meeting a lot of the the guys some people coming from around the Midlands different places Coventry and not sure where they came from but they turned up so shukran shukran as always it was you know blessed it was a pleasure mucho gusto right so sha la right Dante everything now I'm real well that mad autonomous

6:09

Aravena be him welcome be machete mad humphy attacking me alright the casita Buddha can you start at 9:00 p.m. I suppose no the actual live sessions that as in these are live as well but the one I did turning up at the arc that was about 8:30 or something like that it began right that would be awesome right so people what's going on luxurious Luton yes Salaam Luton the only thing I was gonna say the only

6:46

thing good about Luton well what he's using the airport from this that's it's like a smooth drive down and that's it that's the right Ozma Ozma had turned up right alongside him with marhaban but she was the only woman in the live so yep you do need more women to turn up I think sometimes it's it's the timings that we host these things that and then to be fair I only gave like I think two days notice or something and still I mean a lot of people turned up I didn't

7:24

expect people to turn up like that and yeah so of course men and women all welcome but I think also women ain't sometimes so used to going to Islamic events like this or maybe they just go to the very strict kind of I don't know I don't know what people nevertheless Hussein Elza me say Salaam let's to be I'm not a but I've done homra right right that's why I don't want to be the only one there well

8:02

people I'm sure you won't be right so nevertheless let's get back to some of your questions what's been going on what is the latest what's the latest you know the latest latest the cast story a cast earlier that kind what's the latest going down well the UK is in a bit of a mess as everybody's aware of and I just can't understand why on earth the government doesn't just offer another god damn second referendum get this thing on the table get the UK back in the EU that's I just can't

8:40

understand that so that's uh obviously some crazy stuff going on what else people what else now those of you that didn't know it was John Elia has wrought a John Elia the legendary poet it was his death anniversary so there was a lot of things going on online about his poems and stuff like that I think it was probably on the eighth so just over a week ago legend one of the most I think he's the most popular poet

9:17

on social media probably arguably that's what I think so somebody saying what happened to the moustache the moustache is right there I I don't put the dry wax on it right so yeah so John Elia sahi I'll tell you a bit about him actually just a few words since we've tuned in a bit of history about the the poet he's somebody who is one of my favorites he migrated he was born I think around

9:56

was it 1931 or something like that in in India and then he migrated probably a decade after the partition in he was from a place called Roja in India very renowned City stroke town for its other be kind of contribution for its language for what it's produced and he did then travel to Pakistan ten years after the partition and he lived there too in Karachi and he was incredibly well

10:33

not only in things like Arabic in Farsi in Hebrew apparently in Sanskrit learning Sanskrit learning he studied all of these things and and something I didn't know about his name which I upon research came to discover that Ilya I thought was a Christian because Ilya in Arabic right right Ilya in Arabic it refers to Jerusalem so I thought that he was from a Christian background now as

11:10

it appears he's not Elia I don't know this but apparently the Shia referred to ali as Elia that they claimed that Ali rodella Hantz claimed that his name in the biblical scriptures was referred to as Elia so the Shia tradition have a story that when Ali was approached by some of the I think they whether they were Jews or Christians and he said you find my name in your scriptures as Elia so Joanie Leah's whole family his dad

11:46

who was a major poet Shafiq Hassan Elia he had that type that title Elia his other brothers Muhammad Ali is Amrohi all these people Hadi and John which is John I don't know this either until just researching it that is apparently the name of the slave or one of the slaves of Hussein so Husain Radi Allahu on the grandson of the Prophet enroute to Karbala one of his slaves I think an African slave his name was John

12:25

so John Elia so like in that sense like that John the slave of Ali like that and that that was his name anyway Johnny yeah and another intriguing thing I didn't really know that I was quite surprised by is that John Elia studied in do Bund this is what I've read online no way is like but he studied in the oven apparently now in the 50s or prior to the 50s or around that time when the opened perhaps wasn't

13:03

what it's become today perhaps it was much more open-minded at that point right so he studied in the upland and he then later on obviously traveled to Karachi and but he was very influenced by the thoughts and communism and stuff like this Marxism and and I think we sometimes see communism as just because of the Western propaganda we just see the the negative side of it but in essence what we we keep forgetting is that Marxism was in essence a cry for

13:40

equality so a lot of people today when they think call me call me bloody communists they don't understand that this socialism the socialist movements they were in essence a cry for equality and a lot of the civil rights movements sorry not civil rights but like part of civil rights as in employment rights and these kind of rights only emerged in the West as a reaction to communism because otherwise communism would spread because that was what it was stressing and so this poet John Elia was also heavily

14:18

kind of drawn in by that ideology but I don't think he had much generally believed much he was from a Shia background but he seems to he was from the family of the Prophet claims to be say it but he didn't I don't think he claimed to believe in God so later on he was definitely either agnostic or an atheist so but his poetry is amazing and and some of the stark realities he touches up on and since it was his death he has a very famous line where he says

14:53

Johnny Garage maribor's et Yanni kid didn't mercury ottoman that he says that Johnny like deer like is today my death anniversary does that mean on this date I died and it really is a strange line to read you know later especially I suppose since the person's dead it is a you know it has wow like striking effect and he was very stock kind of probably

15:32

if I did have something I wouldn't have minded sharing some things but I don't see no I think I've put him out somewhere else otherwise I thought if I did have his one two things I would have read a rustle or two of his out but yeah Johnny Leah nevertheless let's take some questions than people what's going on politics politics they ruin everything somebody's asking for my views on a yawn hissy um I don't I mean I'm not sure

16:11

what what that means I mean what does my views on a an have C mean I I don't know too much about her to be honest I've seen her on some of the kind of atheist shows or sometimes the ex faith kind of shows or sometimes I've seen her presence as in on these things I haven't watched much I I've seen her on one two of the programs on YouTube historically when people like Hitchens

16:50

and Sam Harris and they used to do certain shows I think she was on one and on that she tell often was just speaking about things like FGM female genital mutilation and she was speaking about the kind of atrocities I think in Somalia or places like this so I don't really know too much about our I know she I think she tried to get into politics in no way you wherever she was and then I think there was some issue and then she did get in but I haven't really followed or kept track of her or anything so I don't

17:28

really know what to say about her I think you see in my understanding some of the and I could be wrong about her so I don't want to say this is about her but some of these people they are just reactions to the Muslim kind of to the Muslim phenomenon like some Muslims sometimes we become nut cases and do stupid stuff and then people hate it and they react and then they hate the faith because you know that because we're doing stupid stuff so I don't like

18:07

people doing FGM mutilating you know the genitals of girls and stuff like this is stupid I mean it's not it's beyond stupid it's it's a monstrosity now why the Muslim was why the Muslim communities were not up in arms why nobody frankly let's just be honest Muslims don't really care in the Muslim world anyway not Muslims but the Muslim world doesn't care about this kind of stuff you know like when I say that like I'm sure the majority of the Muslims do not practice FGM right so just to get

18:46

that very clear that that it's not an Islamic concept per se although some Muslim countries do practice it I think part of Somalia probably did and I know some countries in Africa do and I think some of them happen to be Muslim and non-muslims who share that kind of horrific heritage if you like and then some other Muslim countries like Malaysia and Indonesia they practice FGM now you see the question with this is that although most Muslims when asked about what in

19:25

Arabic they call her father like female circumcision they most Muslims reject it and say it has no basis in the Quran or so not yet they didn't make a fuss about this stuff they just don't seem to care like as in we're not doing it they would say we're not doing it you know if this country does it we don't really care I think that I really I think that is the problem you see because those people who are doing

20:04

it are using the Muslims who are doing it are using Islam to justify it so they're saying they believe this a hadith they believe that this was a practice of Islam they believe the shaffer a meth lab encourages this to happen hence the Malaysians and the Indonesians who are chef a practicing so people or - they ought to have a responsibility to condemn it they ought to send delegations and deal with this but they don't so the only countries that deal with the other Western countries and then people just hate on the Western

20:41

it's a vicious kind of circle so yeah so that's that what's going on I've met people doing Dawa well good for you John Fisher good for you right so right people let me share a interesting visit I had I undertook yesterday so we were invited by we why you coming fast well

21:15

you coming fast right so we we are invited I was invited to visit a Scheffel hadith in Leicester yesterday a great very respectable person great o'clock great character shake nice Phil Phil are you mole onna in Treece Falacci it's a senior shekel hadith he teaches Buhari in one of the senior mattresses in Leicester and he's been doing so for many years he's considered senior to a lot of the the deal Bundy's scholars

21:53

especially in Leicester so I was invited to his house yesterday with a few of the scholars there and it was it was an awesome evening I have to say he was incredibly and it was by courtesy of his son chef Elise and it was an amazing evening really because quite often the way I am many people because of my views like let's say certain deal Bundy's or certain they could be bravely whoever they will not want to you know they'll

22:31

be like no this guy you know devil devil devil you know they don't want to engage so he was very respectful he was very courteous very generous obviously inviting us giving us all this time having a dialogue being very respectful and dignified throughout the entire dialogue it was predominantly not - and we spoke on so many issues things to do with ethics things to do with revelation how it's perceived things to do with at the age of our share of the allahö on

23:10

her on marriages and women's rights and it was really fascinating actually and I enjoyed even though he didn't really agree much with my points of view despite me giving even at the end it's like well but that said at least he was up for a dialogue you understand so he he was at least up for a dialogue he was at least prepared to listen and engage the things that we these concerns and I

23:48

just found that amazing in itself I believe that maybe sherry Otto hock was due to attend but he couldn't that would have been an interesting dynamic head of he attended that would have been interesting but maybe another time with chef real the hawk has it so I have to say you know I was saying this those of you that know sherry al-haq sherry Ethel hawk I think is definitely you know if you take the

24:26

the day open the you could even take the Braille fees as well braille reason dear Bundy's now generally he was probably one of the first and foremost scholars in the UK to be incredibly well-spoken I hope you have to you know credit where credit is due I mean he was ahead of his time in the 90s he was one of the first people to not only start his lectures in English but in good I mean real good English he was eloquent he was I mean I

25:05

suppose I'm using the terms was because I'm referring to a time when you either had speeches in or two or you had one or two American scholars like Sheikh Hamza Yusuf or chef nor emerging at that time and then you had people like chef asa Lynn in London and everybody else was just blood but you know they spoke within just an accent shockingly even the British you know you still get that unfortunately you get the British born scholars and they still have the kind of twang twang I don't know how that I don't know how that happens but it does but sherry al-haq was way ahead of his

25:43

time and he was amazingly spoken and he was doing things like recording cassettes and putting them out there and having hundreds of cassettes and topics and bihari tough seed and introducing these notions and he was so ahead of things and then I know he got into his little the the whole controversy and the drama and all of that but put that aside you see and then he refused to adapt with the time and this is an interesting

26:20

lesson to take from here he refused to accept social media and he just pretty much just withered away and you know and all these other people roles and and now although chef Rioja does try to make one or two social media clips but it's it doesn't amount to anything because the the you know there's so many things now but what I'm trying to say is that the lesson you can take from this is that it is important to always be with the time and to adapt with the time so when a new

27:00

when the society changes and all of a sudden like when social media emerged to refuse to embark upon social media he almost one could argue lost everything that that he was you know had at that time because he was at the heights he was like the number one probably scholar in the UK and now probably hardly anybody you know he doesn't have that kind of but yeah that was just my thoughts for the chevreul hot funds and obviously with my fans as well much love to the ship right so what else is going

27:38

on people what else is going on there are people on YouTube don't support Abu layth what is the difference between the two groups John Fisher who's John Fisher is that like a spam name or is that next Christian I grew up thinking of God his father off and say father when I pray someone told me that is blasphemous as a Muslim giving God a form I'll be allowed to say father like if you said father because of your Christian heritage generally Muslims wouldn't say father generally speaking so

28:18

I wouldn't advise Muslims who don't for example are just born and raised as Muslims I wouldn't advise them to start adopting terms that are Christian terms in saying our Father who art in heaven but if you come from that background and at times you refer to God as father there's no real harm in that because it was your background and obviously your soul you're still so used to the rhetoric and you don't obviously everybody knows what you mean by father

28:54

and it is most certain that the ancient prophets and the ancient people did refer to God as father it's most certain that they did I'm and hence they would refer the Jewish people would refer to themselves as the children of God and even today people still do use the term that we are all the children of God in the Quran it says Allah quotes the Jews saying you know that natinal abdullah he was a battle that we are the beloved and people of God and the children of God so

29:30

I think there's no there's no there's no real there's no issue from that baggage perspective so if you say you know you're making dua you're praying and you say our Father please I don't think this that this that's a big deal or anything like that I don't think you've committed blasphemy or you've left the fold of Islam or anything absurd like that that said I wouldn't advise Muslims who don't have that baggage to start adopting Christian or Hindu terms or you know different religious terms I wouldn't advise that as a religious practice but if they came from that background and

30:08

they said it you know if somebody came from a certain then I think there's no you know there's no real you know it's not a major thing but I'm sure it's understandable Jews don't call themselves the children of God this is not in the Tanakh okay John John Fisher has spoken what can you tell me what can you tell me what Jesus was last time I checked Jesus was a Jew

30:47

wasn't he and so when he was saying oh the Father in heaven who the hell was he talking to the Jews so if they never used this term and they never understood what on earth he was on about so they this is where you call mmm this is what you call too many brain cells unused right so somebody said he was a Muslim as in Jesus was a Muslim Shosh unless you mean by that as in he was a prophet

31:27

of God is that what you mean they said son of God to mean a righteous man of course that's what I mean son of God the sons of God and these things are meant like they don't they didn't believe even the Christians didn't believe that Jesus is the actual son of God like as in the actual like God had you know they don't believe that God had some kind of sex with Mary or something like this they don't this is that's dumb thinking Christians don't believe the huh that's just like some Muslims spread sometimes things like this that's not

32:05

true right so right so Jesus was considered to be from The Goon Oh was he okay thanks right Jesus was definitely Jewish my friend so mmm but you got you have to remember that the tribes of Israel were many tribes coming from the 12 tribes and at that time the kingdom of Judea and the whole thing how it was split and the different so it was a huge thing it wasn't a small they weren't a small people they were several I mean

32:43

huge quantities right what do you think about mallanna hardened rizvi I think mallanna hardened Rizvi sahib has needs some special psychiatric help is someone as articulate as cheryl Hawk still a rigid do Bundy I don't really know any do Bundy's after share free auto hawk there are public speakers that were articulate I mean they can obviously they speak English and I'm sure many of them speak it fine to a considerable

33:21

level mostly open these and even most really even British born and raised still carry accents and a bit of that but but trying to them I don't know how they get that considering they've lived in the UK but then they somehow managed to hold on to it firmly like the faith right so do we accept motivated hadith if it goes against the Quran there is no such thing as motivated hadith in its true definition I have a clip of that on

33:59

YouTube or I quote imam shot to be and explaining these things the quran is always given precedence okay over i had isolated narrations of hadith do we accept motivator hadith if they go against the three principles of against the reason against Iran against Islamic principles well there is no such thing as a motivator hadith this is a this is a concept it's a myth we see there's two major myths circulating in the Islamic Sciences it is the myth of each map that is the myth of the Suleiman the aha

34:39

they've got the myth right so the ha have they missed which is the myth of each ma and the Mohideen have the myth which is the myth of motivated hadith there is no such thing as motivated hadith and it's absurd and I would tell you too because the conditions they give they refuse to accept those commissions and so motor water would mean the condition they give is that every chain has exponential growth so for example let's just say and they don't know what number to give it but they often quote the number five so the way this is gonna

35:17

work is there's a person at the top of the chain he say some so in this being a hadith let's say now because it could go back to a companion as well technically but let's let's treat this just solely as a hadith so the prophet sallallaahu I leave Salamis said something five companions have heard from him okay now from each one of these five people has to hear okay so you've got five and then from each one of those five you've got five five five so there's twenty five already at this layer then from those twenty five at least five have to hear from each layer of twenty five so you

35:57

can do the maths yourself and this is how the hadith and that's just in three levels after the Prophet it's reached that stop there isn't a single hadith on earth that is like that not a single hadith so what they do is they then keep this definition of exponential growth but they say that we're not they don't use that when it comes to claiming and what about if they say oh what we've got we've got five different companions from the Prophet and from them we've got isolated chains

36:35

coming down so five five five five five we're gonna call this motor water as well but in our definition that's not the motor water which is nonsense because this one that you're claiming is still susceptible to error and then the funny thing is check this out the motor water hadith that they claim a motor water most of them many of them are by

37:05

they're not even sorry you couldn't I mean you couldn't make this stuff up if you tried so do you think you know it's like see you at thee and all these other people claim they bring books with here are 200 hadith which are most of us here and the majority of them are not even see they're not even deemed acceptable let alone certain knowledge that's that's like the biggest joke there is and this is why even a handsome rip this to shreds that it's such a joke and the funny thing is that really toois tour was nothing to do with hadith it was a

37:44

discussion of theology that how do we come to know things to be certain this really crept in slightly with her t birth daddy but then it really comes in with eveness Allah and I've mentioned this before that Ignis Allah may Allah have mercy on him the damage he did to Islam you know some people they do damage by doing a service so he did a great service to hadith but with his service boy he really I mean he really did some damage to this Ummah him and

38:22

then after him even a Hodja so these two the tag team of Ignace Allah Nippon Hodja may Allah have mercy on them they were great scholars but they put Islam in the intensive care unit because the damage they did by pushing this belief of the way everything became about you see everything it was like this Schaffer it was like this chef ization of the understanding of the Deen everything became super rigid hadith centered and

39:01

they changed hadith dogmatism comes from them I mean I'm sure people before them had it as well but these guys concretize this whole thing and people after them just all accepted it so everything suffered and hence they started saying stupid stuff you know even the Salah started saying stuff like oh if you get Sahih Muslim inside sahi hain any hadith in Sahin is now we consider it to be on the same level as the Quran it is kata he's trying to say things like this and then even I had your said yep I rubber stamp that and then people for some

39:40

reason became so intimidated they started to say yeah yeah and then in the last century the Salafis you know whatever was missing the Salafis kind of filled that there so just as this thought was kind of like decaying away the seller fees were like hold your horses we got this and they just really put the nails in the coffin and this Dean has really been its it comatose its in a coma because of the the surface of the skull is like even a Hydra and ignis Allah who are great scholars don't get

40:19

me wrong they were great scholars but they their ideas were they weren't they were pious I'm not I mean I'm sure in the wrong way they were righteous but they regardless of being righteous they were dogmatists like fanatic dogmatists when it came to how you handle scripture and they think just spread like a virus and then I suppose it's people to be blamed why did people accept their views and these are the same people by the way from the Hodja who said the Satanic Verses are acceptable you know some why because

40:57

they were so hell-bent on proving this dogmatism that they didn't even care about what they were handling so right people what else what else let's take some questions people have can they be yeah pain in hadith they can never be yaqeen but they can be good enough knowledge so I'm just trying to what is going on what is going on people

41:32

no you're trying to login and keeps going back to all these I got a post this password and that password all these passwords on my phone there's like double triple layer security on these people right so all right let me just obviously there needs to be security all right so let me just get to the

42:09

questions right okay I'm just getting in there is there no chat moderation right people keep it to the questions they ought to be the admin or to be online obviously I can't check whilst I'm online myself but somebody saying dodgy moves no why don't you obviously you got out otherwise otherwise all my wives will be killing each other not it's a joke it's a joke people it's a joke hmm right okay if not

42:49

burst once said was asked about the verse it is Allah who created the seven heavens and the earth and the likes of them he replied seven Earth's in every earth is a prophet like your prophet and Adam like your Adam Abraham like your Abraham how should we understand this if muhammad salallahu alaihe salam is the seal of prophets right so now people write this hadith all the multi verses are them I don't know you know all these different universes out there there may

43:29

be multi multi versus I don't know I mean some theories are inclined towards that is it possible that there are is life and prophets out there I feel it is possible if there is life then it's scible that there will be profits out there that is possible right so the question is if there's profits out there could they have a profit that comes of course I mean they would have profits how does that line with the profits in our galaxy in our universe well it

44:07

doesn't align at all it's nothing to do with this I mean we are here we are sapiens we have our system we have our rules our things it's nothing to do with that's just a hypothetical discussion that if there were universes would God have come let's I mean first of all if they were universe is point one multiverses okay perhaps we don't know if on these multi universes in these multiverses is there life perhaps we

44:43

don't know if there is life okay given that in those because there is in this one would God have communicated with them most likely if he had communicated would have he sent messengers most likely we don't know if he did send messengers would they have to be in the same timeline as our messengers and would they have to be communicating with us on no it's nothing to do with us this is all hypothesis hypothesis is all very hypothetical kind of stuff has no real

45:21

relevance to the real world in which we live right so let next question the atheist or on can you speak about this in the next episode I'll have to check out that link I don't know what that is can we eat chips from a non halal chippy some Mahon asks isn't it the non-halal chips that always taste the best [Laughter] joke joke joking [Music]

46:00

[Laughter] why is it Muslims weren't given a sense of humor it's like I don't know like especially the religious people it's like the moment people become religious the first thing they lose is their sense of humor become like so you must now you must take the pledge and from here forth you must act like a like an emo just be depressed mmm just gonna die and burn we're just gonna

46:36

die and burn we're just gonna die in bits like a broad I'm toning down your you know you you're bringing too much spirit to the table here so we need to tone that down right so what else are we looking at what's this yes of course we can eat chips from a chippy regardless of whether they're Muslim or not and the question here is let me add to the question the question

47:09

here is what if they use the same oil to bar to bar a stuff stuff same oil god forbid don't they know better but they ought to have a separate halal oil so basically what people are asking about is that there is cross contamination so they're putting I don't know I don't

47:47

know let's say a sausage and I don't know whether they use the same oil for sausage people with chip shop knowledge would know better but I'm assuming they fry other things in there that are not challah non halal meat also is contaminated I take it this is the question so in this oil if things are kind of you know I don't know if they frying something there's a chance a small amount of things may be in the oil and when you put chips in there and things like this even if they did like I know there was a question about I think McDonald's and they said well the oil we

48:25

fry this in we also fry some other things in there and we don't use separate oil or something like this and then there was some question that means we can't eat fries from McDonald's or or from KFC and stuff like this and the answer people the answer letter puesta the answer is I was one saying that imagine a person just once I tell you this your life I'm just gonna tell you these words your life is gonna be made

49:05

and these are and then he just dies it reminds me of that clip from that old man from Pakistan which is on YouTube it's like one of those meme Clips where he's pretending to have a heart attack with the news report eyes like he's doing so much drama as the cameraman moves he girls right so the question the answer to this is people it's okay even

49:42

if they did use the oil at times for other things in my understanding and I save my understanding and you know some of these people say I stuff for a lot he's saying in his understanding a little wanted sorry stupid AVI they say he's understanding all the konasana mmm I need one of those filters you know those faces to come on when I do that so

50:17

now I say my understanding because I'm trying to be honest with you I'm trying to be transparent right because ultimately everybody is just presenting their understanding of the Quran and Sunnah okay they just saying so when you get these Salafi shares saying you know this is what - cool it's just their understanding it doesn't necessarily mean that the sumner says that in fact on most things it doesn't say that you know when they say well these kind of wacko stuff it's just their

50:55

understanding I'm just being honest I just like - I find that a sense of academic integrity to say look in my understanding and and they people they were criticizing me why does he say in my understanding he ought to say Allah says look alone sorry am i acting like

51:30

an inbred right well wait well my parents cousins they weren't they weren't al hamdulillah I left it I'll have to verify it now dad sure you weren't cousins right so the the answer is that look these things don't matter why let me get to it look things like

52:09

grease or contamination like this if we in the Quran are told that you can eat from the homes of annual Kitab you can eat their meat you can go to their homes and eat their food and in the time of the Prophet including the Prophet and the companions they eight meals prepared by by al-khattab by Jewish people oh by whoever but they ate me they ate and Christians Jews and Christians companions did eat from Christians and the profit from definitely from these narrations about

52:49

Jewish invites but Muslims in whole accept that there is no problem in eating me in eating meals prepared by Christians so let me get this right if you went to a Christian house a thousand years ago and he prepared a meal for you right it is how do you think they were washing their utensils how do you think they were using their oils and the things that they were using the grease that they used to use to cook food with how do you think they were you think really that they had separate utensils

53:29

just because they invited their their Muslim neighbor never of course they didn't that's stupid you think they were using different kind of Oh oh we're gonna have a different kind of like an oil extractor greasing agent we're gonna use something different because it was Muslims no they were just using the same utensils and if you let's say you've cooked a stew or something you've cooked something you've cooked pork or in a particular pot just washing it the way they did it was certain that it would leave certain flavorings or it

54:08

would leave a certain amount of grease it would have left these things and Muslims were allowed to eat from their homes so when they cooked beef for Muslims or cooked chicken for Muslims they were using the same utensils and the core I never said over by the way you're allowed to eat but make sure they have a separate utensil that never happened so it's common sense and if you read from the time of the Prophet their utensils used to flavor things hence there's a hadith in Abu Dawood that the Prophet of the utensils for water was a copper

54:47

utensil and it would leave a flavor in the water so and so hence from here the Malek here they take they use this as an evidence to say that water when it's flavored slightly by things like let's say you heat it in a particular place or you do it gets that it has that kind of I'm using the term flavor but not in a in a good way but it takes on a little taste and from the container the vessel or wherever its found that is okay they say it doesn't contaminate the water you can still use that water and one of the the Leal's they use is the fact that the

55:26

prophet's own one of his vessels for water was made from so far and that it would leave a taste so so i mean this is my this is how i've highlighted that look it's impossible that you do and that you become obsessive in saying well you know when you cooked my meal did you use the same butter was it the same you know was the utensil I mean did you remove every speck of grease or did it contaminate it and and so if that wasn't

56:05

you know the case then it is definitely hello to consume the food and the meat of the Christians it is generally I mean if they are Christian Studies it is deemed halal that doesn't mean necessarily places like McDonald's and or stuff like this because I don't think in general these are Christian places but if they were let's say they were or wherever if the if you're in a place where there were predominantly Christians actual Christians then fine that they I'm not saying that's what you

56:44

should rely on but it isn't Haram according to the Quran okay and and in fact it's interesting because audio back orignal RB who was the Maliki legend and the great scholar of Muslim Spain over 900 years ago he would write that and he gave the fatwa and that the Christians don't need to slaughter food the way we slaughter food because in his day and age some of the Christians just started to kind of like snap the neck of chickens as horrible as that sounds as horrible as it sounds it doesn't look

57:24

that horrible when it's a really tasty burger not ok vegans relax relax I'm just saying horrible as it sounds ah but the burger sure as hell tastes so good it's right so anyway so the Christians in in medieval Europe when called the evocative not horribly the maliki when Spain was Muslim and he was

58:03

from Muslim Spain and he was a judge and a great scholar of hadith and master of hadith so in his time the Christians began to just snap the next they never used to because in the early days they would slaughter as well and in some place any place I'm sure they did and the Jews would slaughter and they still do and Muslims would slaughter but the Christians in Europe in his time started to just like later on if they would just snap the the neck of the chickens so he was asked can we still eat their meat or they were just all for example they were just one chop and take the neck off the

58:39

chicken he said that as long as so long as it is halal in their Dean we can eat it and that was a controversial fatwa of body of work cryptography but it was an interesting futur because put the fatwa side what I'm more intrigued in is the way he's thinking you see because he's thinking that at the end of the day Allah has said you know you can eat from these people if they understanding develops with the day and age and they

59:16

accept that the church accepts that then who are we to question their faith that was his point and I found it very interesting so I would I just thought I'd share that did the Prophet find protect the pictures of Jesus in the Kaaba you know I I heard this some way I want to check it up I I'm not sure I whether that's a weak very weak narration I've got a look into I did come across one or two generations that when the Prophet were had the idols removed from the

59:55

Kaaba there was the Madonna you know the statue of Mary holding the baby Jesus and that the Prophet didn't destroy that Idol that people say out of kind of not out of belief but out of kind of a respect for just not being an idol but for the concept of what it was trying to represent I've read this somewhere it sounded where I won't lie sounds very odd and I did think to myself I'm going to check out the actual

1:00:30

chains and things like these but as with life I got distracted so I didn't get round to it so perhaps right so I will look into that in Charlotte right so what else is going on people what else what's this shall we take a look at this so named an ELISA Lam and the story of the throne of bill theis right so people people people people the throne of bill peace the Queen of Sheba all right

1:01:08

people are so what is all of this about and why am I even speaking about these stories so I want us I want to use part of this story the throne of the Queen of Sheba and I want to really touch a greater discourse and that is how do we handle stories in the Quran how do we engage is a better word with stories in the Quranic then they say why does mostly

1:01:47

swear as a joke people is a joke all right so come believe somebody from Facebook is trying to bloody call me while some on Facebook life god damn it why do we have to have a disproportionate number of retards in this why why do non-muslims get all the clever people o normal people and we get

1:02:25

a disproportionate number of challenged anyway so right sorry let me return to where I was how do we engage with the stories in the Quran because I think there's many ways to engage with stories okay now storytelling is one of the greatest of human arts really it is solely a human trait and it is something we have been doing since the cognitive

1:03:01

revolution right so human beings have this unique gift to be able to tell stories and bring to life lessons through those stories and and also relates actual stories and accounts as well and this has been the means for information for you know for so long for millennia and now right ok so there's certain ways when we approach the Quran and this loads of stories in the Quran stories about Moses store about prophets especially a

1:03:38

Adam about Jesus about Abraham about Solomon Solomon aleihsalaam about da hood about all these amazing beautiful intense sometimes stories in the Quran and how do we engage with them so at one layer there is the level of where we're intrigued and that's good so we read it as a story so people read oh that allies telling you know like Napa so I like hacen el us us the best of things to be relayed and the story of Joseph and his suffering and how he

1:04:17

rises to power and and and that's an amazing story as it as a as a narrative for example then we can extract lessons from this that's amazing as well that's and these are all definitely things which I advise and promote so we could read the story of Joseph of Yusuf Ali Salaam and we could learn about suffering about consequences about how Allah has a greater plan how things unfold all of these things and we can learn about that and that's things we should do the other then comes the layer that some of these stories have been mentioned in ways at

1:04:57

times that suggest suggest I'm using the word here suggest they don't usually explicitly say so but they tend to suggest a very supernatural thing to them how do we go about what do we do once we read these super suggested we infer so it can imply and we can infer yes so we infer from it's almost supernatural powers and events and how do we respond to that how do we engage

1:05:35

that one way of engaging it is to say well oh well that means these people all had super powers like in myths for example mythologies like we could take the story of the Greek the ancient Greek kind of people of Zeus Zeus for example and I was relaying a story the other the other day about Prometheus and how Prometheus is the person who fashions man he creates man and he's tasked to do that and he has this affinity with man and and then the

1:06:14

gods get upset with you no they don't they feel kind of like they've been done over by prometheus so they take away fire from man and Prometheus he goes and he steals fire and gives it back to mine he redeems is it for them and then he is punished and he's punished in a very painful kind of way where something comes and eats at his liver every day and this carries on for an eternity until he is then saved by by pot man I believe if it's Haraka Haraka lease or whoever it is that comes and saves him now this is a story it's it's a kind of

1:06:52

myth okay and man I was saying this the other day that man is then you see because man is kind of lonely he sent Pandora the woman and Pandora brings with her a box so it's really interesting those of you that have heard the term Pandora's box for like a box of evil so the Zeus and the gods had kind of pulled her they're instructed that basically man is done over so he's given this Pandora brings this box and he's told not to open it but then what does man do he opens it you see very there's

1:07:30

a lot of parallels with I suppose the story of Adam and the Garden of Eden and not to eat the fruit and not to open Pandora's box and but he does open it and when man opens the box out of it comes wrath and disease and illness and ill fate and all these things emerge from Pandora's box and and at the end but the flipside is right at the bottom of the box is hope and that too emerges and and man then has hope but the point is that it's it's an interesting story with parallels in

1:08:09

other religions as well obviously I mean this is from the Greek mythology Greek myths but you have my point is how do you approach these stories now this story if I told you you would just approach it as a myth you'd say yeah in this story these people have superpowers they do all these things but you're not taking it to be real like maybe you can learn lessons from it but you're not taking it as a kind of like oh this is real same thing with Hinduism if he looked in Hindu stories so for example speaking of the first man but there's a story in the I think it's in the Puranas or it's in

1:08:47

the old the Hindu kind of Vedic stories about how how Vishnu I believe that the first man they call Manu that's in Hindu method in do tradition the first man is referred to as manu and then from him come mankind and Vishnu the law or the God appears to him as a fish a kind of struggling fish so Manu helps this fish and he puts him takes him out of his thing and puts him in a larger amount of water and then this phase she feeds him and the fish starts to grow and thus

1:09:25

Vishnu growing growing then man who has a good heart and he realizes look he's struggling let me put him in a greater amount of water and then he starts to struggle there and he grows and grows and then eventually becomes so big that he puts him in an ocean and he's so big for the ocean that Manu is then told to build a he's told to build out of because he's been so kind he's told to build a boat and he builds a boat and and then a flood comes that drowns the world all people have once again a stark resemblance to the story of Noah in the

1:10:02

Bible and the Quran so then the whole point was that here because of his kindness to Vishnu he is then guided and he's on this boat and he's saved and then from him come mankind now when you the story of manuel vishnu or these things or of prometheus we take them as stories we don't think that these were we you know if we don't we're not trying to be realistic with that the issue is when we read certain stories in the quran that don't state but imply a supernatural prowess or power or

1:10:41

capacity or capabilities how should we be so some muslims just say no these are supernatural powers and these people had supernatural powers so jesus for example would speak as a baby normal people can't do that but it's okay Jesus can speak as a baby because he has special powers he's a you know like a special powerful person so he can do things so what they do is they accept reality but then they just add for this part they will suspend reality and say I know in the real world people can't do this but

1:11:21

here they did because God made him do it so this is how many Muslims approach these things the problem with this approach of them taking a very supernatural is it doesn't correlate with reality and he has huge problems once you zoom out because once you zoom out then people everything can fall to pieces so you know because if you're gonna say well these things can't happen and they say yeah but I know they can't happen but God did them yeah so well hmm

1:11:58

so that means my god fine so why does anything have to make sense then because God could you know it's like the Trinity you could say well I know normally three doesn't equal one but God here made three equal one you know you're saying God made a baby talk like grown-ups and you're saying God made a mind fly and do all these things and you're saying this so god I knew except it doesn't normally happen so but you know God made it happen here so God made the three

1:12:35

Trinity B he made himself be three I know it's against reason but you yourself are not accepting reason so you see this becomes the problem that you see if we take the supernatural the mythological thing as a real then reason has to be ditched if reason is ditched then we have no right to discredit for example the mythologies of Hinduism or Greek mythology's we have no right because God did you know so God did

1:13:15

these things so in that case how can we say you know Prometheus didn't create man and he didn't owe fish new wasn't the fish because we'd say yeah I know that doesn't normally happen but hey God did it you know so what I'm trying to say is reason is either all in or or it's out it doesn't happen like you can't say you know what I'll follow reason 90% of the time that doesn't make any sense right so what I'm trying to say is that align the universe

1:13:51

has set laws these laws have to be they have to be they have to be defined Allah says well ant I did a little metal lighter Tila you'll never find the laws of God the laws of nature to deviate and change that they work gravity always works you see if somebody said I know gravity works I won't stand at the edge of a cliff and jump off I wouldn't do that I wouldn't do that to my child I wouldn't do that for myself but yeah on one occasion God allowed one man to defy gravity for example not that that well

1:14:29

God allowed a group of men to defy gravity but normally he doesn't this logic it comes it doesn't just shoot you in one foot it completely buries you because you can then no longer find any fault with any ethology so now that so no so I'm right so now I'm coming back to the stories I'm not saying the stories were mythical I'm not saying that I do believe that these were actually real people I believe all these people were real I do believe that there was an Adam there was an Abraham there was a Noah I believe in all these people the question

1:15:08

is what were the sewers exactly saying so we have to visit it with this in mind if we want to take something real away from me if we want to just read it as a story to extract other lessons and just read it like a narrative then fine but if we want to get real we've got to do a bit of sometimes like it's like we're approaching a scene as a detective I mean this is I'm giving an example okay so imagine a detective comes to a scene and he has a clear open shot case like he has a person and they say look here's the person and you know there's been a

1:15:47

homicide it's been a murderer and this person was clearly holding the gun when we got there and it's a clear open shot case but the problem is there is no motive and in fact it's too convenient the whole thing is way too convenient and it's at these places that detectives will say well you know it's - hmm this is more like it's got I know it immediately makes sense but when we zoom out it doesn't make sense because this person for example that's the worst way to do it he could have done it in hundred other ways and got away with it why would he do it in such a stupid way

1:16:27

and still stand there and do this it doesn't make sense so this in a similar way that kind of thinking cap has to be applied with these surahs that yes we can just read them like this and say superpowers supernatural stuff doesn't matter but when we zoom out there's a problem it doesn't make sense like that okay so let's take a look at for example the story of the throne of the Queen of Sheba so all the belong in the shaitaan now now in this story it's actually very

1:17:06

interesting I won't go through the whole story thing but I'll focus on the verses to do with the throne of the queen of sheba now the quran doesn't mention her name but muslim sources generally say her name was Bill teased a lot of them but she was the queen of sheba but one of the things that is interesting is how the quran portrays her as a woman of immense power beneath whom the administration and the ministers are old men now the Quran does not rebuke her in any sense for that power this is an interesting lesson to be taken from that story

1:17:45

so when hood hood says you know in the budget to embrace and timely comb that I found a woman that owned them she owned these people they were her subjects what idiots mean coonley she and she's been given everything wallah her harsh on javi and above all what stood out for me was her majestic throne so this is an amazing kind of an account of a woman with great immense power being told to Solomon now Solomon aleihsalaam held one

1:18:25

of the most powerful kingdoms in his time on earth and it was so powerful that and if you just look at the gold that the kind of gold reserves that he had and gold that was reaching him and stuff like this and even to today they don't know they have certain traces of from the region of ophea and they don't know where this region was and there's been a gold hunt trying to discover it because he was receiving a lot of gold from that region so hood hood and just to kind of touch up here it's interesting this isn't my point but I know a lot of people have asked me who

1:19:02

was hood hood or what was hot now in this verse of the Quran it mentions that Solomon Ali Salaam he says what a the tire of Atalla moly he say he one day missus this tail and tail can mean a kind of bird or a watch it can mean something like this because the collective noun that's being used for column Ali Allah are all hood hood I'm can Amin al ha it be now people say it was a bird so he had this little kind of bird that would fly around and he's talking about this bird the interesting

1:19:42

thing is the verb that is used and then says can Amin al aha a beam high beam is used for human beings only it is not used for animals like the plural that is used like in like muslimeen mummy mean like caffeine for example this in or the own in the nominative case is not used for animals it is only used for humans and it says I'm Kahneman Allah I mean is he from the people that are absent where is he and then he says that look that was the

1:20:19

banana either Bansha didn't that he says I will punish him all as banana who only at en me be so born in Mubeen says I will I'm gonna punish I'm gonna slaughter this person and this is him using the word here slaughter is what led a lot of Muslims into thinking it's a bird as well this as well as the word pipe it reinforced for them that slaughtered right so but that was just his figurative statement that this person had a responsibility now great

1:20:59

legends like Maulana Abdul Karim al elahh Theory who was from India in his stuff seed sorry from the indo-pak region in his stuff see sorry I'm just putting this on in his stuff Cyril orbital was all in line with certain atom of a Syrian as well say that this was actually a branch that I ear was a branch of people that Solomon ELISA Lam had under his command that were equivalent to modern-day intelligentsia hence he called them

1:21:36

birds like Falcon like eagles they were his people that would bring him information about other kingdoms now he says that that's his stuff Sienna stuff see it is something that does make sense given the kind of constant verbs that are used referring to human beings so for example when salt when hood hood comes from Mecca the raita by eating all had to be malim to hit me he what you can be mean Sabah my neighbor in your team now he says that look he comes back and he says that he stays slightly at a distance and he says - sorry man a least and I'm look I've come

1:22:16

with some information about the people of Sheba if this was a bird the problem when we zoom out is we're saying a bird has cognition we're saying a bird has intelligence we're saying a bird has not just animal intelligence but it has the intelligence to analyze to assess to synthesize information to relay information to recognize what kingdoms mean to recognize these kind of concepts that that if you zoom out is a problem because animals are not Micallef they don't have these kind of capacities so

1:22:55

you see this is one of the this is what I'm saying with the zoom in zoom out problem if you take this to be a bird but if as Maulana Abdul Karim ls3 said that this was a person hood hood and this was his intelligence his intelligence here so the person was responsible and hence as such an important figure was missing and hence Solomon al-islam was incredibly angry and that's any stuff see he then goes on to relay what he saw and I saw budget - haha Oh My yes you do Nana shams him in do nila that these people were bowing down to the Sun that they were

1:23:33

prostrating to the Sun was a yin 1108 oh no my love the ho man is severely for homeless and that he says the Shaitaan has misled them and they have turned away from God once again a saying an animal has these kind of psychological trucks that are human constructs these things don't exist okay so and you see we could zoom in and just pretend it's a mythology well you know God I know animals don't have human social construct but God made this bird happy hmm and then you zoom out and you say well

1:24:11

hmm so what's your problem with the elephant God in Hinduism why is that all of a sudden so counter reason you know if they said well God made him happy you said you know no but that doesn't make any sense really and a bird doing all this does make sense so you see when you zoom out you have a problem when you zoom in you're just so immersed it doesn't matter you're just reading it as a narrative so he then goes on to say he describes now listen once again what does Solomon ELISA Lam address him paulus a month or as a doctor I'm

1:24:49

contaminant as again once again Cathy being the plural only used for humans he says I will see whether you are truthful or you are telling ale you are from though the people who lie people who lie birds are not from people and then is a bird once again a bird knows how to lie he understands human concept as theory of mind it recognizes I'm deceiving somebody it recognizes these things right so it's problematic saying this is a bird nevertheless

1:25:26

Solomon Ali Salaam writes to the Queen of Sheba he writes to her sensor and then she kind of consults with her people saying what do you think and they say that you know we can fight him or whatever you whatever you wish and it's interesting she mentioned scarlet Annelle maluca dada hello' Kharitonov Sidhu ha Raja aloo eyes Italia Villa Gesell aquella follow I always found this incredibly interesting that she says that look Kings whenever they come to a because she asks them what do you think we should do and they say Natalie Batson

1:26:03

you know we are people of power and strength like bring it on let him come and she says that whenever it came she says whenever Kings enter a town all they do is ruin it and spread corruption it's really fascinating because from this verse we can the like opens a separate tangential on a tangent a discussion on political philosophy that what gives human beings the right to rule over another human being we did

1:26:40

this concept of kingship even come from who said that one person has the right to be a king who why how do we become where did that come from why do we have to accept it that you know he's a human we're a human how does the in Elma Luke a that the hello aria tan off sir do her you know Kings if they enter it town they only spread facade what could their liquor your father but yet this has been you know the three things that have set

1:27:18

man on this journey of ultimate unification has been God King and money and you know and then the thing is that we did this even come from that one human one day felt I have the right to sub subjugate and you guys on my subjects some person just assumed that one day and it became a human legacy I find that so fascinating the way this verse kind of touches up on this notion and then it goes on about she kind of liaises with Solomon Ali Salaam and then she eventually she decides to kind of

1:27:57

come to him bring a delegation and come to Solomon ELISA now the interesting thing is then comes the verse Carla this is Solomon Alesana yeah au helm Ella hey you come here tini BR she had cobbler India Tunis Muslim that who will bring her thrown to me before they reach us so they've set off from where they are they it's gonna take a good while before they come obviously back then so who can bring me the throne because hood hood had praised

1:28:36

he said it yet mean cool Alisha she's been given everything and after saying everything he said well haha he said god damn that throne that is something you see now so what kind of the pinnacle what the almost a landmark of Her Majesty was this amazing throne that she had just as in the time of the British and the East India Company we see the Peacock Throne of the Mughal dynasty in India became like an emblem

1:29:13

it became symbolic of the great majesty of the moguls and hence they wanted the Peacock Throne this was something that they were like we want we've heard so much about this throng we want the Peacock Throne I suppose and then there's the game of Thrones with its kind of thrown in me but the point is that Thrones sometimes are so powerful like this people want them now the question with this verse is color every terminal jinn the Ifrit from the jinn and I'm gonna come to the TVs said

1:29:52

I'm an RT Kabir cobbler ant economy mcCormick before you stand from your maqam I will bring it well in the alayhi laka William me indeed I have the capacity to get that done what is Solomon at least I'm talking about where a crossroad people one group of people that have zoomed in their reading who can bring me her actual throne and they're reading that a Jin as in mystical demons like all like

1:30:27

these characters that we can't see the jinn have said to Solomon aleihsalaam that one of them who is called efreet which is like a powerful person or powerful gene I suppose by this narrative by this group he's saying I will bring it before you stand up this is out one see that in my understanding doesn't make much sense and I'll tell you why in a moment because we are zooming out and taking a look Maulana Abdul Karim on a theory in his stuff seed and other people have said in order

1:31:04

to both are highlights that gene here was referring to a group of people does this not the jinn and how do we know this because let's take a look at the verse of the Quran where Allah speaks of a Shaitaan kanima Nalgene for facet on Emery Rabi yet Imam no we could to be all these people will highlight the majority of the Muslims surprisingly actually I don't agree with them on that but look they themselves accept the majority of the Muslims do not believe

1:31:42

they say that Shaitaan was from the jinn they say that he was something created and jinn here just meant a group that you can go to any tuffsy read the verse of the ayah can Amin al jinn that Shaitaan was from the jinn for first economy Robbie because gene just means the UNT's the veiled the kind of the thing that is veiled the the kind of like a a selective something that isn't seen so and then this the jinn which are a creation because they are also veiled from from us being able to see them as

1:32:22

in what are these things they're in a total different realm now most of them are Assyrian say that verse they does not mean Shaitaan was from that gym they just mean he was from something that we didn't couldn't see we didn't have access to that's what they mean and that's actually most of them for sinning and they say that surprisingly that the majority of Muslims accept that so here AB mawlana shaykh abdul kareem la3 writes in instead of seen all returned with our that there was three groups of people that the army of solomon were divided in

1:32:59

three he had his intelligence here which were a unique it's a bit like how governments today have so you know they will have so in America they will have their CIA for foreign things and then he had his manual army which were the intz he just referred to them and in Smith's man and people say well but even today we refer to things as manpower that is the manpower he has brought the manpower and he says and then he had a unique like a skill like a group a department that that were

1:33:38

kind of supreme they also dealt with internal matters but they were supreme an example today to say if I if I was speaking about America would be like the FBI and you would have the normal police I'd have the FBI and you'd have foreign like CIA so this three division that you have an amusing America just because it's so popular as an example but otherwise all governments pretty much have this in the UK in the UK whether it's going to be the mi6 for example I suppose mi5 looking internally but you do also have the National Crime Agency looking internally now and then you have the regular police force manpower in

1:34:16

this way in a similar kind not the same but a similar kind of division Solomon had splitted had split sorry his his his kind of man power over all forces and hence he had one of the most powerful kingdoms on earth in his time this is how it's explained in the tafseer of orbital Roscoe now to me that does make sense and I'll explain so a powerful person from this division says I will bring you now what does bring you the throng mean was Suleiman a Liesl I'm asking them to go get her

1:34:53

throng see we zoom in that's fine go get her throng we zoom out that's a huge problem why it's theft this is theft we are assuming that Solomon Ali Salam is stealing that the throne of another Kingdom he's just saying because there is no war between these people he we're assuming he's saying to his people go steal her throne and that's okay for a prophet to instruct people to steal

1:35:29

Thrones just to impress her because the reason he's gonna bring the throne is just to impress her we're gonna see that in a moment so he's gonna steal it without her permission that's you see you zoom out that's a problem you zoom in it's like well okay we're just reading it as a story now what was he saying and who can bring me her throne as in who can bring me like onto it who can make you know you've praised her throne so much make bring a throne for me like that get it done who can get it

1:36:05

done and this person who is very capable says I can make us wrong like hers before you get up from this gathering maqam every day what's transmitted in scriptures is that Solomon would generally sit after sunrise after a little while till noon and that was his mom it was a royal mom a royal sitting now he would sit there and he would deal with people and the person said before in a day before you get up I will get this I will make you a throne like hers but then listen call Elodie and AH who

1:36:43

Elmo mean al-kitab a person who had the in the science or the knowledge of the kid he said Anna Atika be cobbling your today la Couture folk before in a glance I will get it done for you Fallon Mara are almost occur and I'm that then when Solomon sorry Paula hard I mean Foley Robbie Lia blue Anushka remark for he said surely this capacity God has tested me with that will I be grateful despite having all this power

1:37:22

and then he says woman chakra for in the Maya cherlene FC woman care for affair in Nairobi honey I'm kidding and he says indeed whosoever is grateful Allah is you know he says that he's grateful for he only does good to himself and whoever disbelieves and that Allah is surely rich and generous and that's an interesting thing but I'll just say come to that in a moment who was this person that said to Solomon I will get the throne some people many more fuss arena I've said this was a person who had knowledge from Allah

1:37:59

lawful Mahfouz and mystical powers and he created it in a blink and he created this and zoom in it's justice it's a narrative is paranormal you Zuma that's a problem because these things don't happen like that now what's an alternative narrative that actually makes sense and once again in the tafseer all reversed all share Abdul Karim Allah none to carry military he writes that this was a person who kept he had detailed descriptions this kitab of key features of key of landmark whether they were events or landmark

1:38:39

kind of icons he had these things and he said I've actually got a descriptive detailed description of this massive throne the way like the peacock throne was described in so much detail with all its fine I think qualities to the British in a similar way this had been described and he has it written he's saying I can I can make you from that so meaning it will be spot on not just this person saying you know he can make it from his knowledge like he's heard about it but I have a detailed descriptive and people say there were

1:39:19

drawings of it and things like this and so I can make it like for like and this thing of before you return to this coupling yesterday like a thoughtful before you look at this matter again what is a figurative speech of before you look at this matter again not that before you blink as in literally because once again that's problematic when you zoom out because things like that don't happen so he does create this throne now Solomon Ali's lamb is incredibly impressed with this loan then he says

1:39:57

look Olynyk he rule aha are shahe number attached at the enter kunam an takuna mean and levena liya that this is an amazing ayah because you can understand in so many different ways Nakuru many people understood here that this means and you can take that understanding it means disguisey because they believed this person went and stole her throne and i've said before it doesn't befit prophets to steal Thrones okay to me that's a blasphemous allegation but nevertheless a lot of Muslims went with

1:40:34

it they believed that Solomon had her stole throne her throne stolen and it was brought back so he said disguisey nikiro that's one way of looking at it the other way of looking at it is he had it like for like made but then he said top it even further make it even more glorious and he said make it so you know what it's already amazing take it up a notch

1:41:10

to that extent that by doing so lucky ruler ha that even her she will be literally when she thinks looks at this throne so she will knock him and test and kill our shall be more our Billy had a lodge that she looking at this throne thinks damn and I thought mine was good you see Nikki rule aha and I like that that way of reading it other people took it in the other way that he meant

1:41:49

disguise it but I mean both the verb can mean both things so it's okay now the interesting thing is look fella my dad when when the Queen of Sheba arrives on bilities arise assuming her name is bill please she arrives kayla is he/she you see when you arrive at a royal palace in the past you had to come into a waiting area you arrive and then you are received like you're kind of like brought in and the fascinating thing is we see if LM Majid it is said to her

1:42:27

Solomon doesn't say it is said to her that you know take like take a seat and then she's asked is your throne also like this a hika that out of cookie you know like that you see some Muslims understood from this that he's saying oh is this like your throne by the way and she's saying yeah it's kind of like it that to me is a bit of a a kind of dull understanding see the other understanding is it said in a in a diplomatic but there's a hint of kind of like you know this is just the waiting

1:43:06

room this isn't even the way the king since that's inside this is a this is just where the guests sit and is your throne by the way is your throne like this and she says no more or less but it's more or less like that because you see the hope was she saw that damn and one of my best landmark icons is my throne and they have one which tops that and it's just in the waiting area

1:43:46

Wow you understand and and so she responds and know who you know it's it's like this moralist she doesn't say it is it because even she feels like damn you know because she doesn't want to say it's below it oh he's exactly like it she just says mmm perhaps what routine arelma mean table her vicuna muslimeen and then she's invited to enter the palace of solomon fella who'd Felisa and it's so majestic that when she steps in

1:44:26

she thinks it's water phenomena Auto has a but to Luger well Keesha fat ansara so she lifts up her dress to kind of because she thinks she's stepping into water and he says announcer Homer Adam I mean kawaii he says it's just glass but it's not water and then she eventually becomes Muslim and the story said states that generally I'm as far as I'm aware that she marries Solomon but that that has another interesting point in it by the way that you know people say oh my god how did she reveal her lower legs and oh my god and what's this about and

1:45:05

then the Morpher serene have had to kind of do acrobats to to justify that story look it is what it is and you know and the whole point is that this is in the Quran it's stating that obviously if it was an obscenity then it wouldn't be stated in the Quran and it wouldn't be happening in front of prophets but the point is that this whole story the reason I mentioned this story is just to kind of highlight that we when we approach the Quran we have different

1:45:44

ways we can either take things as mythology as kind of like myths that paranormal events all we can zoom out and take a holistic picture and I would advise that we do take a holistic picture another good example that is given often is oh sorry another story that often comes up is Jesus in the cradle now that when America comes to the people bringing Jesus with her this is the verse of the Koran and many people assume that at this point Jesus is a little baby

1:46:23

they're assuming this they assume that the people are accusing her of adultery although in the Quran it doesn't mention any way that her people ever accused Mary of adultery that doesn't say later people did like hundreds of years later they did but in Mary's time when she arrives with Jesus they didn't now the question is when CH Mary alaihe salam arrives with jesus how old is jesus now one good thing would you see if we're just zooming in we can just read it as a story like oh and and it doesn't state but it implies that maybe he's a baby she's saying she

1:47:01

brought him to carries what does that mean Tammy Lou who you know like bring that Tammy Lou can mean carry on like horseback or on a donkey or on something it can like in the quranic comes that when the people come to you to the Profi l'attaque mila home so that you can carry them it doesn't mean that's a verse of the quran it doesn't mean that the Prophet would carry these people it meant that you take them on the camels so it can mean that or it can mean physically carrying now many Muslims have gone with the fact that this here was Jesus as a baby but what they didn't do is look at the Christian sources

1:47:40

because look Jesus is an incredible figure of the past to other communities whose also speak about him now about Jesus Ali Salaam we know that when Jesus is born he doesn't I mean I know they take him to Jerusalem for the quick within the 40 days the ritual but then Jesus according to certain narrations he's taken to Egypt because of King Herod Herod the Great he was kind of butchering all babies under a baby boys under a certain age so they take Jesus away to Egypt and then he returns after

1:48:20

a few years the Bible does the Bible speak of Jesus coming to Jerusalem now most likely Jesus would have once he returned to - to - to Judea all the Middle East he would have visited Jerusalem often especially since it was a pilgrimage to do so at least three times in a year the Passover and so on but all Jewish males once they were of a certain age would visit now the interesting thing is the Gospel of Luke actually does have a narration of when

1:48:57

Jesus is around twelve years old what's interesting is that he is brought to Jerusalem and then when Mary is she has brought him she in the Gospel of Luke when she is heading back they've realized in the journey just into the journey that Jesus is missing so she searches for Jesus she comes back and searches for three days it says and eventually Mary is incredibly stressed out with not being able to find Jesus as you can imagine her baby I mean she's lost him she eventually finds him in the

1:49:35

temple she finds him in the Temple of Jerusalem debating the elders you see now that's really interesting it's fascinating because you see in the verse of the Quran they when Mary approaches these people they say to her what have you brought you know your father was a decent man your mother was a decent man what kind of child is this which many Muslims wrongly assumed or speaking about adultery now once again

1:50:15

I do this is why I do like this stuff CEO of Maulana Abdul Karim Allah 3 he highlights this very same point he highlights that this was actually Jesus as stated in the Gospel of Luke he had been there for a few days and he had been trying to debate some of these elders in their understanding and naturally they were annoyed they didn't like I mean they didn't even like grown men debating them let alone a bloody child to them thinking that their attitude was this just a bloody child this is why should we listen to you they

1:50:52

wouldn't listen to men so when she says that look you know like whoa don't blame me like speak to him like what has he said and they say you know kafir neukölln woman cannot film a disobey yeah how can we speak was just in a cradle he was in a cradle just a little boy you want us to speak to a little boy now we are the high priests of the temple of jerusalem to me that interpretation fits with the reality fits with you see when we zoom out is still fits the problem with the other

1:51:31

one is we can read it and then jesus said to them look in me Abdullah I am the servant of God you know that he has blessed me he has made me kind to my mother he has made me better remember why Allah dirty now the thing is this question that why is well why root to my mother you know why am I here why why stress this point because Mary most likely would have been a bit upset as well because one he was missing for three days according to the Gospel of Luke and so she would have been

1:52:10

incredibly terrified I mean she would've been really relieved to have found Jesus Ali Salim but she would have been very terrified as well and and also a bit upset that what we you know why did you disappear and him responding in this way and then saying that Allah has told me poor too that we should pray and to give in arms to give charity and you see this this message once again telling it to the high priests who were all about just making money you know because the high priests were making they were rinsing the people they weren't really

1:52:47

about giving charity and stuff so to me this narrative makes a lot more sense rather than saying oh look he was a child he spoke to them he did this because when we zoom out we know that look the Jews generally did not believe in Jesus from a child and they don't even believe in him when he was a grown up now if they had seen a speaking baby surely that would have affected some of the Jewish people surely they would have thought this is a sign they would have believed truly they would have done something I mean babies don't speak like that not like adults so to me that

1:53:26

doesn't add up then because we know they didn't accept Jesus we also know Mary was never accused of adultery in her lifetime because if she was she would have been killed there was no way on earth they would have ever let Mary go because she and her being a woman was even more defenseless they would have just killed her the Jews I mean they you know they attempted to kill Jesus and you know in in their version they killed him in their version and the point is they had that power so to think that oh along comes a woman and they think this woman and then and miri wasn't from some prestigious family with all these kind of defense

1:54:05

she was very defenseless if they thought she'd commit adultery they would have just stoned her to death and killed her but that doesn't happen in reality so when we zoom out it doesn't add up it's too it's too convenient this story you know it doesn't add up when you step back you know that hmm neither did was there any miracles neither were there any accounts of this kind of stuff and not knowing what the general Christians who who transmitted in their version of authenticity I know that there's questions with the authenticity but what that's my point so

1:54:42

I hope this gives shed some light people on why and how I believe we should engage with narratives in the Quran that when we step back it should still fit it shouldn't be something that only when we're so sumed in it doesn't matter you know oh yeah this flying people Solomon is flying on a magic carpet this is what a lot of people believe they believe that Solomon had like a magic carpet and or some people believe he had a cloud and he's just fly on this cloud and used to go around the world on a cloud or on a magic carpet and this kind of stuff and you know all Jesus speaking as a baby you're doing these but when you

1:55:21

zoom out none of these things add up so the other narratives all add up and they are in out of seer the problem is that many people don't push them why because they themselves they too caught up in this kind of mythological perspective that they've had since they were children and they not created a not people of critical reasoning see this is the problem you know we don't have we lack scholars who have who have critical

1:55:57

reasoning we don't have that so cool about Maryam Ali Salaam I do believe Maryam in my understanding was a prophet of God whatever that means but I do believe that Maryam alias Salam is a incredibly venerated figure and she was a prophet of God right soul right Abdullah magia right moving on let's take some quick questions and bring this to an end of the Lama hate is saying is kissing wife in public hello

1:56:34

Abdullah he hasn't even said it's his wife kissing wife as in wife with a capital W as in like the communal wife [Laughter] oh I thought you were wife I thought you just the wife in community so kissing be nothing nothing Matty right I'm sure of the llama he'll smash they see somebody

1:57:13

so eager is he watching my thing in public thinking control name you know this has been a debate by the way so that scholars because you know in the Gulf countries they when they meet each other they kiss like they kind of kiss the cheeks like ma-ma kind of thing so Oh they sometimes kiss the forehead with

1:57:50

women so many people in the harem like in Mehcad this they will like let's say they've met like let's say it's the it could in many cases their wives or sometimes other muharram they will kiss them the men will kiss the women like on the cheek thing or on the forehead and this has become an issue that so people have debated oh my god is this Haram or what's going in the house of God oh

1:58:18

sorry wrong religion I mean in the house of God sorry wrong religion so this has become a a debate that oh my god are we allowed to kiss the wife in in public and these Arabs are doing it in the harem and personally stuff like that I think is no problem stuff like that okay you know that kind of that's just I think that I think anything kind of what's the word hmm anything that's not in any way some kind

1:58:56

of like seen by any I don't think by Islamic standards that you know that kind of introductory what the Arabs do in some Europeans do that kind of case or a kiss on the forehead or stuff I don't think that in any way seen really are so sexual it's not seen as sensual that's Oh since you are it's just seen as affectionate or kind of welcoming obviously if you know if this if there's like some deep French stuff going on this is gonna be a problem

1:59:33

this one big problem dubious if all of that is going on he says not was there anything sensual I was this was just me this was welcoming you know the welcoming healthy sorry nice obviously that would be rather shocking especially since they meet like that with all people and as he's moving along and then there's a guy standing the end they do that with the guys as well and

2:00:11

then there's like huh yeah yeah oh yeah you know this it turns from the brotherly love you know the agape turns into the eros so confusing you know so people masoom wants to know what is the French stuff this what is this what is this French have why is it called French by the way what is this French the French fries in a pond the French toast well my friend don't worry you know when you get mad at this one this

2:00:50

one if you're still in doubt I'm sure you can visit one of the local party subs isn't that usually where you get your first French kiss from the body shop it's like it's like I'm joking people people joke joke India I'm joking no joke yes so right so people that's that oh I almost forgot there's some village Wars

2:01:28

going on between the the which car I saw have you met you naughty naughty you want me to send you the 30 subs number looks like brother masoom isn't that masoom after all right so there right so people what's all this going on with share what's his name a small she'd and smile so they've got people the weights are going down

2:02:08

let me give my quick two sets I've got to you know everybody's gossiping and and gossiping is it nice you know well I'm not gossiping I'm just telling what's what's going on so this person from up north called molvi Osman has made a video calling out a sorority which was quite hilarious but they've taken it down now I don't know if other people have it up so this video said you know I spoke a bit about this last week in by the way in this archaic

2:02:46

English which is so funny because I really wonder do these people think that people actually speak like that OSR are oh let me take you down memory lane oh yes man so so he said oh oh my oh my John oh dear oh goodness gracious so a Sarah had done a response to that so in Assad's response he had said he

2:03:26

did like a really lengthy response which boy I've never seen anybody evade the question too so much akram he spoke about everything except the actual thing it was so funny oh my god and 1sr takes so many pauses oh my god it takes like and we will think I'll good speedling oh yeah we've got to put it on like 1.5 speed on

2:04:06

YouTube to move it up good should have thought about our yeah so he's like he really takes so long and then he dodges the whole thing and what's so hilarious is he he keeps referring back to me he goes oh and none of you called out this Mufti from Beanery town bro I just live like probably 20 minutes away from you I live in Birmingham yeah this Mufti from Karachi berming from Karachi vanora town

2:04:45

I'm not from Karachi vanora town bro I'm from Birmingham because I debated I debated well that's all mmm doesn't have full that kind of accent but this is a little twang but he goes I debated this guy and so basically what he was saying is why are you guys picking on me he said this guy said this and he said miracles are like these this is how I actually was a liar so hilarious I was boring to watch but it was

2:05:24

incredibly hilarious that part that he was and then what was funny was he/she has wrought through molvi acid under the bus so malaviya said earlier on this year got into a big became like a proper avid passionate hater of mine and he went back and forth and you can watch my youtube video responses to when he's we were referring to him as Madhava mercury because he kept using the word mercury which he it was an English word he was trying to say

2:06:03

the word mercury so anyway when I refer to an hour were given that the title of Anthony Gonzalez from Amar Akbar Anthony Wright so at that time apparently Mulvey acid aka Anthony Gonzalez he was taking help and assistance from Asura to refute me so this was meant to be a secret but I saw it just threw him under the bus in this he said and there's a UK scholar I will not say his name he's a very famous do Bundy scholar I won't say

2:06:42

why his name is because I'm meant to keep it private but he's part of this group he's part of this group and earlier on this year he had a course at sofa which in Birmingham and then he went on to refute this Mufti from by Nuria and he would phone me and ask me for advice nice this one nice I like it so obviously so this has caused a bit of some friction now between Mulvey Yossef

2:07:20

mercury and the other group who are actually his close friends the Islam production lot so interesting so now and then right at the end he said okay I take up the debate but what we're gonna do we're gonna meet we're gonna have pre debate and then we're gonna have a debate in January but before we debate we're gonna write down everything in Arabic about the brain viola MA and we're gonna send it to Damascus so it's like basically saying some people are gonna write to me let's just say and they're gonna tell me about an issue in

2:07:58

China to do with some Chinese people and some cultural issue so and I'm gonna judge about about what's happening in China which I've got no idea by the way so yeah so chef Assad said okay we want I want you to write it this down and we're gonna send it to some all of mine Damascus and then he went on to say I've got a lot of Arab scholar teachers and you know you know something interesting these aren't interesting you know this one

2:08:33

see what's interesting is a cerrar a while back publicly so it's public this public yeah this is our public relationship you know this Irish style otherwise Assad Assad is my my John yeah so publicly a cerrar had had attacked chef yaku be and he cast all the chef Thiago be followers and he said these Yahoo be followers only are so basically they blind followers who are this sees

2:09:11

that are just wowed by an Arab just because he's an Arab he comes here and people are like all you know both board over and they're all kind of like wow we're not worthy we're not worthy just because he's an Arab you know and so they become kind of blinded by these Arabs so it's got a very any sense several talks on these Estrada's but what's interesting you see mullahs are what in this response to the the Deobandi movies he himself says oh but

2:09:47

I've got not one no I've got 15 Arab teachers he says my teacher my teachers are Arabs and he starts naming you know like Norwood chef Noureddine Hightower and I think for for and I don't know which other Messiah he names he names like several he goes these are all great shoe who are like my shoe by the way and that's a bit of an irony like I'm having the deja vu you know the arrow the blinded by the earth so this

2:10:24

one inconsistent you is I'm not nice so that's that was like kind of a bit I thought oh hi like that I thought why not let's you know it's good to do a little review on certain you know some masala going on the salt bay so likewise by the way if there's ever any interesting masala going on in the ill me religious circles reach out to me people I'll do a little a section a little or discuss it you know multi masala that section right people is oh

2:11:02

my god is at the time right I'm gonna folks gonna leave you to it right muchas gracias it's been a pleasure you guys are too kind too generous may Allah forever keep you guys smiling and laughing that's the that's the awesomest the awesomest of those people right so insha'Allah till next week have an awesome time right subhanAllah who were to Isla am I or say foon now may Allah be exalted and above that which they described to him well of the salatu was-salam ala are a little moon that the best of salutations and

2:11:41

blessings upon the Messenger of Allah who was born in this season we are in that season of when the Messenger of Allah was born are ill the one who said Al Madina - hey de l'homme lo can be adamant that medina and its way people the school of medina is better for them if but only they knew inshaallah with that people have an awesome evening an awesome night wherever you are in Sherlock Salaam alaikum wa rahmatu like - Eyal our butter cat

Something wrong here?

Tell us what is wrong and it will be checked against the recording. Nothing changes until a person has reviewed it.

Sending a note needs JavaScript, which is off or unavailable in this browser. Nothing has been sent.

No name, email address or account is asked for or stored, and the inbox does not store your IP address. For rate limiting it keeps an unreadable fingerprint of your connection for 48 hours, and our database provider's own logs record connections as every website's do. Only your note, its kind, the page and the moment in the recording are kept, for review.

Cite this recording

Stable id, transcript version and tier are part of the citation. Every change to a transcript is logged.

Mufti Abu Layth Archive, auto-transcribed, may contain errors. https://muftiabulayth.org/r/ls5plxkhe6c/ (accessed 1 November 2026)

APA 7
Mufti Abu Layth. (2018, November 20). Monday Nights with Mufti Abu Layth: Session 101 [Video, auto-transcribed, may contain errors]. Mufti Abu Layth Archive. Retrieved November 1, 2026, from https://muftiabulayth.org/r/ls5plxkhe6c/
Chicago author-date
Mufti Abu Layth. 2018. "Monday Nights with Mufti Abu Layth: Session 101." Video, auto-transcribed, may contain errors. Mufti Abu Layth Archive. Recorded November 20, 2018. Accessed November 1, 2026. https://muftiabulayth.org/r/ls5plxkhe6c/
BibTeX
@misc{abulayth-ls5PlxKhE6c,
  author = {Mufti Abu Layth},
  title = {{Monday Nights with Mufti Abu Layth: Session 101}},
  year = {2018},
  month = {11},
  date = {2018-11-20},
  howpublished = {\url{https://muftiabulayth.org/r/ls5plxkhe6c/}},
  url = {https://muftiabulayth.org/r/ls5plxkhe6c/},
  organization = {Mufti Abu Layth Archive},
  urldate = {2026-11-01},
  note = {Auto-transcribed, may contain errors}
}