Truth & Scripture | Mufti Abu Layth

quran is literally false but metaphorically true i don't um categorically no that's not the case the quran is true um to say it's literally not true i don't know what would give you that suggestion maybe like a false reading of the quran maybe like a misinterpretation of the quran might appear to certain people not to be true but the quran is categorically true maybe some people haven't understood some verses and that's why it appears like that to them the quran see people you have to understand

something and i said this in a discussion once um with um i believe it's with a few uh ex-muslims i believe it was with abdullah gwandal and also with i think vedu vids and um i'm not sure if we discussed that when i discussed it with haris sultan that you see when you say true what do you mean by true and i'm sorry but you don't get a monopoly on that definition what do you mean by true

when a person says this is true what do they mean what what how do you define true and and then when i said this some of the people they they got rattled oh what's that supposed to mean it means exactly what i'm asking what does true mean objectively true scientific empirically true philosophically true rationally true logically true perceptibly true

symbolically true metaphorically true literally true what what is truth now you may say well truth is simple but that's because your mind is just so simple that it doesn't perceive that if i told you i'm wearing a blue shirt is that true objectively it's not true because color doesn't exist it's just simply an interpretation by your visual faculty the visual cortex is simply reading a certain reflection of light and a wavelength in a certain way that there's no absolute categorical truth to that sure this and

there's an inter-subjective truth that we've arrived at it's not absolute it's not categorical but it's intersubjective it does the job it's good enough do people die is that a truth yeah it's true from a particular world cellular death does consciousness die

does it how do you arrive at that being true you know we so when people reduce it to and a binary like that it's really just indicative of a a restrictive mindset you've got the questions wrong or you've not understood the questions yourself say well is scripture true of course it's true well what is truth you're saying well what kind of truth are you measuring it empirically like with the test tube is this what you're doing this is not a science book the quran is scripture

it's expression it's art it's the way art is kind of received scripture is received like that it's an ex experiencing sure it has um it has a message in there it teaches about certain things it teaches about god teaches about people well you know you could say well you could say well okay did these people exist that's a question that's a historical question now you're speaking my historical truth yes we would say these people existed now how you could say well there's no historical record of abraham having existed fine but that doesn't deny that

he existed so at most you could say that the you know there is no you could say well history hasn't preserved ibrahim alaihissalam since he was four thousand years ago well there's no surprise there we're not expecting history to have preserved him it's an oral tradition you should read the book the edge of memory that speaks about the oral tradition coming down from from at least the law from the younger dryers almost from at least 10 000 years you have the aboriginal research that is done in the various um various kind of subcultures ethnographic research that is done in the edge of memory they speak of

oral traditions of memories being passed down often as narrative sometimes just descriptively for anything between five to ten thousand years and in some cases allegedly more how does that even happen how do you explain that you see you you're just kind of dumbfounded you don't know how to answer it the aboriginal cultures when they would explain that they used to be land there and then now we know there was landi and they would explain exactly although they would have a mythological version to explain what happened but it was the the kind of younger dryers the mini ice

age that rose and and it sunk but that's like over ten thousand years ago how did they have that story still so i think sometimes we have to we have to humble ourselves in i get it that way we're passionate to know the truth i get that but we have to humble ourselves you see we we are not even a blip on this radar so it's yeah

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