Ash'ari creed does see the Quran as created | Mufti Abu Layth

you talk about reason and the quran being created so much it's a valid question bro sunnis believe that the quran was created um believe that now but i've mentioned this before you see what they do is they're embarrassed of it so they hide the wording and replace it with words that the common public wouldn't understand so they don't use the word in fact if you read the asha'a text they will say

we don't we refrain from saying al-quran the quran is using this word because of the stigma associated with it but what we will say we will divide the quran into kalam nafsi and kalam love thee and kalam nafsi is not the arabic quran they're very clear so al-baqar al-baqarahini he clearly says that the arabic quran is mahluk it is but they don't use the word mach they use the word replace it with the word madath as in generated see but this is it because it got stigma

so they moved away from the wording and even a lot of ashari's don't know this today you know this they did such a good job [Laughter] even ashadis today are so dumb sometimes and you know the salafi dawa is so wide so manipulative that many people don't realize like they've already fallen victim to it so even ashadis today don't realize that you know that how the set so for example the bukhari is so widespread that people without even realizing it big up bukhari so much

like even hanafi's who historically never rated bukhari sahil bukhari to be there because most of the is opposed to sahil bukhari and imam so but later hanafi's because the the kind of discourse got so drowned in this discussion they even without realizing it bought into it so similarly because the salafi thing is so widespread the because salafis only talk so you'll notice that even sunnis now

start using their rhetoric so sunnis will say you know this thing like for example because the selfies they their whole thing is essentially about imam ahmad this is what is because imam ahmed this is where it's alleged that it begins you know this anthropomorphism because really the anthropomorphists of this ummah were the humbles okay they were people that believed god had body parts and he was this big body in the sky and this kind of morphed body and they claimed that this is what imam ahmed believed

and to be honest they may be true it may be true he may have actually believed it i think later sunnis were just embarrassed so they they kind of refused to acknowledge that maybe imam ahmad believed it but they say the humblings definitely did so okay maybe he didn't believe it i don't know but it to me it's not impossible that he believed it but uh fair enough he may not have but the humbles are the ones that came up with this you know this whole thing about god and body parts and stuff like that