What happens when Mufti interacts with people who aren't skilled in debate? | Mufti Abu Layth

mufti can you bring mahad on mind trap [Laughter] you know there's this person he came on and you know something let me tell you something when i did my previous meet up this mahad came on but i didn't know who he was and i never got around to speaking to him so what happened is when i shut everybody off and i said all right i'm going sorry guys you know that's enough we'll catch up next week much love uh there were still two or three people left in the in the studio room waiting so now that i've ended the live uh i thought i'd click on them and say

oh sorry man i didn't get around to it so i was doing that so i click on one apologize have a brief catch up then goodbye click on the next one good you know same thing goodbye and then there was mahat and so i click on him and and i say oh you know sorry man i couldn't get right and he is like oh you know it's me mahad by the way so i was like mahad who so i don't know who he didn't have his name there's my so he's like oh i've commented on facebook and then i remember of course of course the one i was speaking about learning knowledge to the from the cradle to the grave

um so then he says he starts having this argument with me you know oh you know i want to question you on your beliefs and blah blah blah and it turns into a debate and i said to him that time you know i wish we were still alive because as soon as it turned into a little argument i kind of was like all right let me wait there let me flex [Laughter] let me do that flex there you go all right so i was like let me show you nam nanna that's not how you debate this is how you debate

and then i had to go in with the whoa i had to do all the all the the killer moves the kung fu moves and it was so hilarious what dissecting you know what i'm gonna be honest people it's too easy and in a way it's not fair i get that because i don't mean to kind of uh just have my own trumpet blown here

i don't know why you guys are you know one you people you even naughty nutties i don't mean to kind of sing my own praise but i'm just all it is is i just love honesty [Laughter] if i'm to be honest i'm too well trained in this you know in the art of argumentation and debate and it's not anybody can be trained in it look it's not uh you have to think about it look i've been arguing and debate not arguing debating for at least two decades

yeah so if you take a skill take a skill like if you'd been drawing and learning how to draw uh and you'd been doing that for two decades you would be pretty good at it by now you ought to be especially if you're passionate as well about it so you can imagine along the way you've refined the hell out of these arguments so it is a very handicapped argument debate for me to debate just like common people even though mahat knew a certain amount but it's very easy to dissect them

um you know it's like it's like a child you know literally i mean his name is rightfully given to him so i'm happy to do it but it's kind of like a bit cruel uh you know people are like because some people oh movies oh musty [Music] but that's because you know i have to sometimes but i'm happy for him to come on the lives and i will um you know

complete any gaps that are left there but cool uh yeah and you know i would be happy to debate uh sheikh hassan but if he would have a dialogue and the problem is not our beloved is not a person that knows how to have a dialogue he is you see this is one of the problems with scholars the eagles are so over inflated [Laughter] they're not used to anybody questioning them so it's too hard to handle for them you know

to have a dialogue where you question me who the hell do you think you must present your question now you must be quiet give me 10 minutes to answer that's how these people are only used to handling these they can't have a dialogue so yeah right so speaking of our below it let's uh there was and i'm gonna come back to this but we have so the graduate one graduate from a mufti from birmingham uh a graduate from karachi very difficult to even have a conversation you don't notice

how i'll below it yeah he won't say must be [Music] it's not my place to say this some have said that is a that is signs of trauma [Laughter] where you struggle to say the name even this

this this one we're going to come back to the below it later on people we're going to come back so what is going down