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Monday Nights with Mufti Abu Layth: Session 104

salah salaah namaz prayer salaat namaaz as-salah al-salah salawat haj pilgrimage hadj fiqh fiqah fikh hadeeth ahadith ahaadeeth hadis ahaadith saheeh sahih hadith saheeh hadith sound hadith authentic tafsir exegesis tafasir tafaseer sirah seerah seera seerat prophetic biography malik ibn anas malik bin anas imam maalik imam malik ibn anas al-ghazali imam al-ghazali imaam prayer leader masjed masaajid masajid mosque shari'ah shariat sharee'ah maaliki malikite malikiyyah maliki school hanafite hanafiyyah hanafi school shafi'i shafei shafiite shafi'i school 'urf fatwah fatawa fatwaa fataawa legal opinion muftis hukm ahkam hukum hukam ahkaam halaal permitted lawful haraam forbidden riba ribaa sood usury da'if dhaeef zaeef da'eef da'if hadith saheeh muslim imam muslim muslim ibn al-hajjaj iman imaan eemaan eeman sihr sihar jadu jadoo kala jadu sorcery akhirah akhira aakhirah akhirat afterlife janna jannat paradise jahannam jahanam jahannum al-mahdi imam mahdi mehdi koran quraan al-quran sura soorah suwar soora chapter ayah aya ayat ayaat aayah aayat sahabah sahabi sahabiyyah sahabiyat madinah madina al-madinah madeenah yathrib ahl al-sunnah ahl as-sunnah ahlus sunnah ahl al-sunna sunnis shiah shiite shi'i twelver ithna ashari salafism wahabi wahhabism sufi sufism soofi 'alim aalim ulama ulema ulamaa shaykh shaikh sheik shuyukh shaykhs ummah umma ummat takfir takfiri takfeeri nikah nikkah nikaah nikah nama nikahnama walee awliya awliyah guardian talaq talaaq triple talaq talak mehram maharim mahaarim niqaab burqa burka purdah parda face veil insha'allah in shaa allah insha allah inshaa allah alhamdulilah al-hamdu lillah alhumdulillah alhamdulillaah bismillah ir-rahman ir-rahim bismillahir rahmanir rahim bismillahi bismillah al-rahman al-rahim as-salamu alaykum assalamu alaikum assalamualaikum salaams salam alaykum wa alaykum as-salam greeting al-din ad-deen ad-din rahmah rahma rahmat

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avoir in alhamdulillah wa kafa or salat wa salam o allah rasool allah most of our body latina Baba omame who da who mastered will be a sorry a little Medina to our bad for Salaam allahi al elcome aluminum become amar haben running light bienvenidos a todos but fair Rowley and forgiving people swagatam right can his son is asking can you see me what games are you playing

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ibrahim from Coventry of ROVs are in the house an asylum become well more heaven marhaban marhaban what's going on people what's going on I take it you can all hear me I did plug this in after going life the detached microphone so I hope it's it's ok usually I plug it in before so I'm not sure is Pakistan an Islamic country yes or no Allah is it yes or no yes no what is in Islam what does the term Islamic country

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actually mean how did you learn Arabic nam la ya la whom in suffer yellow human suffering I'll me but it's an awesome journey to learn the Arabic language if you can see me I'll put some clothes on in that case we'll pretend we can't [Laughter] write so do you have a patreon account no that's actually something I'm considering I'm considering to set up

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ever I people so what's going on what's going on what's been happening in these past few days as as always this this there's some where are your drinks at my drinks are right here people my drinks are right here you know sitting down without drinks is so I don't know what it is sometimes I just get so even when I sleep I have to have some drinks besides

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besides my bed so I have to wake up we destroying them psyching off and go back to sleep [Laughter] what's life what's life people so what else has been going on what's your diet it's ah it's not good enough I'm trying to improve it these days I wonder who your partitions are gonna be what does that mean your partitions

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no idea no loss a mere mono no loss a nobody could Arabic grammar books there's so many Arabic grammar books how did I learn Arabic I initially learn Arabic through Arabic I initially learnt through just books I study doctor sort these Quranic Arabic which I do recommend to people it's an amazing I found it an amazing book and I probably finished that maybe when I was about 17 actually so many a lifetime away a

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lifetime ago that's what it was and I pretty much just studied that on my own and I did have some interim lessons with people and and then I signed up at a local college and did some evening classes and and then wherever I could pretty much go for certain of course as I did that but that was all probably within the course of a year and then I set off on the road to Damascus Elad damash so that must have been in maybe late 1997 whoa

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maybe yeah late 97 approaching 98 yeah that that kind of time and so I set off to the on the road to Damascus and then I spent a while there but even in Damascus even though I did study in Institute's including Damascus University and mahidol fat no sorry only just why am I saying my other foot mahidol fat although I did visit and try to but they were too strict with their they wanted like 8 year programs and mahidol ammonia I went

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to which was in Missouri back in that day and age I mean I don't know what Damascus is like right now unfortunately but uh but in all honesty I and then probably was there for about maybe one to two years and then travel to Pakistan but most of my Arabic learning Walt I when I got to Damascus I already knew the basics of Arabic I really knew how to navigate I really it was just the I wasn't familiar with the conversational style so I wasn't it's like when people would say something I would think all that makes sense so that's how you say

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it wasn't that I was a stranger to the grammar or to the it's just how you put it together I wasn't so familiar I could try and think of it on the spot but I wasn't sure is that how people use it so the usage came to me through conversation and I just really talked my way through learning Arabic then I must have I talked and talked and talked so much right so I really I would spend these vampire sessions when I was there

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soon I mean when I was there with him probably for the first few months I was mahidol Amenia I did the summer course day and then I left that and started doing after the summer course was about three month course and then we finished that and then I signed up at Damascus University for their kind of Arabic course and I was just 18 at the time so this anyway I mean that that was all beneficial I think it was amazing I did private lessons private Fiat private this that but a lot of my practice came that there

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was these these guys we got to know good good people I wonder what really has become off them or where they are now there was some North African kind of brothers at the time one from Tunis and one from Algeria and they were going through certain difficulties of their own and they they kind of neighbored us as in they lived close to us we would go to the same Masjid and things so we got on with them well they were going through some financial difficulties and we said to them there was two three of us at the time and we had this whole kind of house to ourselves so we said to

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them look if you guys are struggling why don't you guys move in with us and they they kind of needed that opportunity I guess but one of them me and him would just have these vampire dialogue sessions we we would just chat and chat and chat and debate and argue and everything but I mean in a friendly way and we would spend the whole like this would start at something like midnight or 11:00 and it would go right through till like Saba puja and so that's really

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where I must have that took my Arabic from from here to top the because we would only speak for ha clear Arabic and so that was it really boosted my Arabic for months on end that's how I used to speak speak speak speak debate and you know when you're debating you have to get your point across so you're like la la la and so you're trying to prove your point and so you're very eager to express

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yourself and so that really helped me a lot back then so that that was my beginning after that I pretty much really knew hour a week I think you and then I suppose like any language you always go on to improve your expression but I think that was language is like you reach a certain plateau a certain level after which you've you've kind of you've got it it doesn't after that you never really forget it maybe at times you might not speak it so much and then you you might

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just go into a place and everybody saw now because I don't speak Arabic that much although I read a lot in our week but I'm just saying so when I travel let's say I travel to an Arab country within like one day by the second day it will be totally full fluent again and I'll just be speaking speaking speaking and even sometimes answering the wrong person in Arabic and and then you'll probably be dreaming in our bacon but but that's how language is work you see so but in this day and age there's so much there's social media there's apps there's if for my Spanish I use several

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apps now and I use I try to watch things in Spanish and I try to pick up on that but yeah so well those of you joining our week I hope that of some inspiration you can go out there and if all else fails just get yourself an Arab wife not not not I'm not promoting not nothing wrong with that but I'm just saying if all else fails that will always succeed

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so I just need to take that advice on Spanish I guess so I laughed it I'll have to take some unchartered adventures in Latin America and then come back either either dead by the cartel or having an awesome incredible experience oh right so women traveling without muharram Allah answer this one answer this one please this one no this one this this one women

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can travel without a Muharram watch my video on it I've gone through the whole detail a detailed analysis of all the honey this is entirely a misunderstanding people of course when we can travel the whole thing was to do with safety in the past Sheree is saying oh I thought that was that's I do not want an Arab wife I want an Arab husband Allah maybe we say if well if says some Arab people on here Arab guys right hola that's it se us might happen might happen might happen and we can just

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maybe just do a bit of matchmaking right here so your thoughts on the peace conference all right this is interesting what memory techniques do you use okay I suppose I'll answer that because they still link to what we're speaking about right so memory techniques I think before I used to use a lot of these kind of things I don't know I don't I don't know maybe it's just maybe it's old age now you know speaking about this on a tangential note I bumped into yesterday not bumped into I met up yesterday with some very old friends speaking about

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like 1997 and back then and some of these guys from I mean I'm still in Birmingham but born and raised and more so in a different end in hands Worth and which is in Birmingham but a different end on the other end and so I met up with some of some friends yesterday that I did go to part of college with or maybe school it all chilled out with back in those days and wow I gotta say it's it's like it was its chatting to these trying to these guys about stuff about people still from it felt like a

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different life I've gotta say felt like a lifetime away like like was it even real or was it just surreal more it's amazing really just so but it was good to see that some of them had really taken an interest in in the Dean and stuff and started studying to some extent and it's fascinating and just catching up so that's all some amazing stuff I thought I'll mention that but back then I was really using I think I was using a lot of memorization ice to memorize stuff like Matt back then I

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don't so much anymore I don't know why but back then I was really with the whole Arabic and I should have memorized Arabic grandma asset and books like to memorize them I used to I I did do a lot of that back then so now with my Spanish I don't really do any of that but maybe I should but maybe I should share Hamza use have got betrayed quickly even voice even the smallest support for UAE and

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Saudi Arabia and the Shelby you will go nuts you know this whole thing I want to speak about this whole UAE was it called healthful food all which is the they translated it as the Alliance alliance of virtues conference it's a peace conference Mizzy said I grew up in Hunter with no way that's what we're talking about right so now right this conference I think this was was it the sixth conference or something like this

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and and it's pretty much whole state I mean it's it's supported or and set up by or not set up really but facilitated by the UA government but it's it's pretty much hosted by chef abdullah bin bei as far as i'm aware I could be one band share Hamza Yusuf is I think the the VP the vice president of the whole forum and things like this and and a lot of people went to this recently some of the scholars and and other people and and people are going nuts about this online

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now what's my thoughts about all of this I think personally that look people are just being personally this is what I think I think people are just being stupid look it's a conference for peace I get the fact that people are saying this is an irony they're saying that why is the UAE supporting Saudi Arabia and in its war against Yemen which I totally agree with but what if they do happen to

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do something good as well why why can't people just take the good what's the big deal and they saying well oh but also supporting that they are doing wrong likes I'm I clearly say but all these people online that are hating expressing hate on share Hamza Yusuf share Abdullah bin BAE and other people that went from I saw chef Adam kelwick who's an amazing amount from Liverpool does great groundwork grassroot level at a grassroot level that our humanitarian charity work I saw him getting really

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kind of attacked online by people and really if you look at those people that are hating on these who are they just look at them the and and they keep bringing this up o the Yemen they were against or UAE are against Yemen and and I agree that's a valid point but all these people that are bringing up this point they never condemn Saudi Arabia never and Saudi are the biggest culprits in leading that goddamn war Emin right they never condemn Saudi Arabia the other thing is all these people that are kind of hating on chef

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Hamza Yusuf or chef Ben Bayer or chef Adam kelwick or there was dr. umar Lucario these kind of people that well I mean I recognize I'm sure they must be other many other people they right but that were hating on them online for being at this conference these people are all if you look at them just go into their profiles they're all extremists they are all pretty much either extremists or extremism sympathizers they are people like Hezbollah Reid who are an extremist cancerous organization right I am so I don't know how the UK

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allows them to operate right but they are a cancer in a humble like dying cancer but they are a cancer and it's people like that it's people basically who are calling to global global rule Dominion we need to rule the world we want to rule the world we who the hell is we right so it's people with this kind of power hungry complex about global Dominion that are hating and people like Chef Ramsay you serve so right now his boot daddy do you hate Saudi Arabia but I was speaking about a lot of the people who were

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criticizing but even they do not go on a campaign against Saudi Arabia so his birth daddy are not on a campaign hating against Saudi Arabia they although they hate every single government in the world because according to his patottie every government in the world are kaffir they are hoots their false gods right so they believe that Muslim countries ought to topple their governments have a goddamn civil war and then rule in the name of whatever their version of Islam is and nobody even knows what their version of Islam so these people are

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massively extremists if you go to their web sites all the hadith they use are the same hadith that are used by Isis you just go to the websites his daddy you can see so it's not just about his what they read whoever these people were you just see online that they were hating on share Hamza user for having this Peace Conference hating on most of them not all but most of them are just either they are usually non violent extremists they are people that are kind of right-wing fascist Muslims who may not express violence themselves but deep

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down have a soft spot for violent people in the Muslim world now that's why I couldn't really care less what these people say these people themselves are a goddamn cancer and alhamdulillah as as time moves on we're finding that more and more especially younger Muslims are just fed up they fed up with religion anyway as a whole and then they're pretty much fed up with these kind of people and they can't relate to them so this is why so that's a good thing al hamdulillah so you find that younger people don't really want anything to do with political Islam

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because there is no such thing as political Islam ok Islam did not come for politics in fact there's a really let me give you a let me give you a relate to you an answer that I heard from a Lama Javed Hamid Esau I thought this was a nice or a clip of his on recently on YouTube where he's asked a question and somebody said to him well if a prophet let's say the Prophet was to come hypothetically in the 21st

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century like now what do you think the difference would be right so they they like do you think the Sharia would be different do you think they would be trying to set up a government do you think they would be activating in sorry participating in the UN would they be what what do you think the role of this prophet would be if let's say as a hypothetical question if the profit was to come in our day in age as opposed to 1400 years ago now he

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gave an amazing response he said that you see all you have to do he said this is hypothetical of course but all you have to do is look at the history of profits he said look at the Quran look at the Sira but look at the profits before us look at the Bible he said look at the Old Testament he said profits have come so many countless they never came to set up

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governments they never came to rule they may have been an exception between one or two of them that ended up ruling like Dawood David and Solomon but they generally by and large profits never came to rule look at Moses Jesus Abraham Noah these prophets never came to set up a politics they never came to participate on right--let's let's clear up the international relations they never came for that ever they always came to just remind people

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that look this world is not the end of it all that after death there is continuity that ultimately although we cannot see it and we although we do not we cannot physically perceive but there is a creator to this cosmos that's the message they simply came with everything else was secondary or tertiary and I thought that that was an amazing response and it's true because if you're gonna say even the laws that the

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prophets bought they all brought different laws which contradict each other like so here alcohol is allowed here it's not allowed here this is allowed here that ain't allowed here this meat is Haram here that meat is halal here this is these kind of things were never the reason why prophets were sent because in all honesty man it would be capable of making law man is not incapable of making law humans just look at these societies we have arguably arguably today one of the the arguments against religion today's what does religion have

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to offer for me because Muslims have fallen victim to this propaganda of political Muslim fascists extremists with this whole it's all about the laws it's all about the laws that today they look stupid when they say to people oh when people ask them what what has why should what what's Islam got for me what do they say laws are you having a laugh what kind of laws what laws do you think do you seriously what the thick books like these fake books I could open these fit books and read these laws to you you yourself will be shocked to death about

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some of the laws that the scholars have made up along the way in day and age you wouldn't you see is that not part of the Sharia is is fit not part of the Sharia is the Sharia not fit what else is people don't you know what's amazing these people say Sherea Sherea Sherea ask them what is Sharia nobody sees nobody knows what Sharia is ask them what is Sharia like tell me detailed but don't just say oh it's the Quran because the Sharia is not the Quran the Quran is the Quran right so what is the Sharia

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when you say Shelly yeah we want Sheree how we want Sharia what is Sharia it's thick that's what it is right so it's fit meets the books of jurisprudence of law have you ever read these books of law you'll be so surprised that over 98 to 99 percent or at least I would say like at 98 percent of them if not more are just man-made stuff they just like one scholar saying look I think this sounds to me let's go with this I think this sounds let me you know what I took there was a scholar who shared something

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let me read it out to you since I'm on this topic right just to give you an example of how these things there's a scholar by the name of share cache if Han and he was sharing a an example from chef Eric this is chef effec checks and by the way HT love this fatwa or at least this scholar Takeda no honey did in his books nevertheless but forget forget them right here's a question this is part this isn't a thick book okay

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Sharia book because Cherie eyes thick which means basically thick means anything beginning with purification so who do the five pillars of Islam then all the transactions more omelet of marriage divorce dietary laws a penal justice cold punishments renting buying selling so pretty much all of these books that you can see you can't really see many of them here but all of these books are all Sharia books are all fitt so I could pick them up go to the section on buying selling renting doing all of this right so inheritance

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criminal justice code things like this so that they have all of these in there so here from the chef for a meth lab sure cash if Khan had shade from Australia he achieved something on this is from the Harsha of boo Jeremy upon copy and also a Lama I will tell you be a chef a yes well great great major scholars from several hundreds of years ago I mean you've got right okay but Jade me from about two hundred years with the other one from almost four hundred years ago so what can you check this out this is

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from sherry aria so what can you see of a woman now check this out watch a meal another Milo Kahneman aga-aahh Oh Mahalo Helen message so he's saying okay you can't see a woman even if you're gonna try to you could make her out from behind some curtain or something like this you shouldn't be Maharaja be here look what is exempt what you can see pictures of women on look check this out be he Maharaja be hero here to surah FINA will Meera so if it's a mirror image you can see it

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right of a woman 1 min Wilma and if it's a reflection from water you can look at a fillet a harem well Omaha Chihuahua so this is not Haram to see even if she's naked and even if it's with desire this is from the fatwa book of the Sharia book of share a llama I'll go Jeremy in his commentary right now the hacia right also sure he'll tell you be as well before him said a similar thing maharaja bahia to surah film are all film men are and what is exempt is

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looking at women that can be naked whether it's in a picture of them so somebody's drawn a picture of them and this is from 400 years ago by the way all from Oh in a mirror fillet aroma a chihuahua okay this is an example to show you Sharia what is Sharia like right now I know by me quoting that but why all of a sudden the Shafi madam overnight the subscription is gonna go sky rocky right

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so so all of us on this fatwa we're gonna all be following the Shaffer you met them now Imam Shafi in his grave is gonna be turning like what the hell just happened how come I got like a spikings followers overnight how come they only follow me on one must allow it isn't even my must Allah

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but my point of saying this is nobody really knows what they mean when they say I want Sharia so it's always good to ask people because you'll confuse the hell out of them you know when people say these things like somebody had asked is Pakistan and Islamic country what does that mean so they will say a country that rules by Islam she said well what does that mean can you explain to me and then I can answer so they will say yes a country that rules are going to the Sharia say oh so what is the Sharia so they will

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say well they will say well it's you know rules according to the Quran and so she said well hmm what can you name me a book that has the Sharia in it and this is what you have then thick books and there's no such thing as one Sharia this the different methods the Maliki meth herb the chef's a method the Hanafy method the humbly meth-head and before them there were hundreds of methods and then these methods all disagree massively massively disagree from one person saying all this is halal to

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another look like I just quoted there and by the way I never said I endorse it I just quote here from the chef a method from Allah McHale you be and these other people saying that well you know looking at naked women if it's a reflection it's not Hara now you've got one scholar saying something like that you've got another scholar saying it's all Haram you've got another scholar on a different issue let's say what you can eat the Maliki methods saying well everything is pretty much halal apart from Pig everything else is not Haram whether every single creature from the sea every amphibian is allowed every bird in the sky is halal every creature on earth except pig is

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not Haram that's like the Maliki method and then you can have the hanafi method saying almost everything is Haram to eat with the exception of a few docile creatures so like what does the Sharia I mean what does it mean just interpretations of scholars they've just into one group interpreted one thing it became popular another group interpreted another thing it became popular right so Mufti Saab you're about to be refuted by the entire planet of scholars no this thing on Kalu B I've not said it I'm giving an example of

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people so anybody trying to refute me I don't repeat me I've not said it I'm giving an example of is this Sharia people saying we want Sharia is this Sharia for example now what determines Sharia that's what I'm asking I'm not saying this is a fatwa I mean it is a fatwa in the chef's a method but I'm not saying go do this you know did not you trip me up so as you can see this this

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business of religion is an old business in which people have ruined everything religion really just came for that connection between man and God that's it this was all secondary tertiary you know quaternary I mean this this stuff had nothing really in essence to do with the deemed as in a sacred at a sacred level all prophets that came before had different Shelia's they had different kind of rulings different things haram halal it it was never the important

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thing they were simply social remedies for people right so what else is going on don't forget Simran Simran Simran why Simran Simran is aka Abu Ibrahim The Exorcist why has he made a new video has he what did i just miss well have you ever done an IQ test I didn't like you test so many years ago I must have been a teenager at the time I just remember it was high I can't remember what it was obviously above average I've reached the

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chal tiny abbas we can't be average you've got to be above average how can we take a balanced approach to the verse where Allah says I have perfected for you your religion no Allah you see it says yo Mac mulch Allah come Dina come what mom - I'll a calamity were a little Akuma is llama Dina the verse of the Quran that today we have completed this theme this theme is complete in that sense with its fundamentals that that is always being the case as to will human

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beings have new rulings well of course because they'll have new issues so somebody could say what is the issue of buying and selling online well you couldn't ask somebody from the seller 1400 years ago about I'm buying online obviously they had no idea what that would have meant so you couldn't so rulings would always change with the day and age hence all my ribbon Abdel Aziz the great Calif wool ruler of his day and age in 100 history he said that talent nasi kebaya mccottry my ass to me

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no more ramen or food or that there will always be new rulings in this Deen in accordance with the amount of issues that emerge howdy miss V is annoying people all right hot air is rishabh is in jail right people hardened rizvi is our Pakistani Allah Mossad all right the extremist nutcase who ordered a death

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warrant publicly and called for a civil war I mean how reckless is that you know he called for a civil war and openly declared the top like the Supreme Court judges in Pakistan to be a kaffir and watchable Patil that means anybody that can get hold of them and kill them should kill them like a public slaughter he called any chord for the the takfeer of the president of the Prime Minister of Pakistan Imran Khan calling him a cow field and he called for the public to topple the state and he now is hopefully

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serving he's gonna serve a nice juicy sentence under terrorism well I hope it comes served very tasty for him because okay if this is this religion if this seriously is this religion these are the kind of people that's what he actually did him and of zulqaad RIA whatever on openly called for peep code for the public slaughter of top the highest like the supreme court judges in a country

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Pakistan declaring them kaffir washable cotton so these people honestly and what he did is he's also set a kind of milestone we see in the past Brill V's have not been so associated as extremist groups but now they are see these brave is now you having an extremist Hawara CH kind of factor emerging amongst them like so in the past the Salafis Wahabis were definitely extremists some of them not all Wahabis are kind of like

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terrorist extremists like that but usually a lot of the kind of terrorist Muslim terrorists were inspired by a hobby kind of doctrine so in the past beginning with Mohammed ibn Abdul Wahab himself killing the people wanting to topple the state doing all that kind of stuff killing Muslims who came on Hajj and all that kind of stuff so later on other maja B's kind of they they draw inspiration from his teachings hence Isis are pretty much unanimously Wahhabi and salafi so they teach Muhammad if not the Hobbes books and they do all of that inspired by people I give entertain me and someone but that's

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not exclusive to them other people have been extremists as well so the you will get right okay so right now just had to block someone they good old block button so in Pakistan as well you had a lot of the terror the terrorist groups for example leshka debe which was a Salafi Allah Hadees Mujahideen group that was set up

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and they were then banned and prescribed by the government in recent years they had their bank accounts seized and everything they were movement you had the open the kind of extremist groups and factions emerge you had had Authority hardly Slammy injection um all these kind of the Taliban tarika Taliban in Pakistan all these kind of groups that conducted explosions bombing killing several innocent people some of them more than others in Pakistan as well as other countries killing them in

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India killing them in other places these but you you seldom had a brave II kind of Lashkar Jung V Lasker jeonggi was more about killing Shia and the Shia had an extremist one as well called what was this they had it was called CIPA Mohammed but they had a branch that I forgot what their branch was called which was the the kind of militant branch that went and killed people they so these were all so you had these people that do exist but the Braley's

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usually stayed out of these now what happened is in recent times with Mumtaz Qadri who was executed by the state of Pakistan for Tyrande terrorism laws for killing the Governor of Punjab with him and this new wave of really thought emerged that was a very extremist kind of thought and and it's shocking to find Sufis or these kind of people so extreme that they want to they become bloodthirsty and following on from that would you have this hardly more sane reason and people like that so anybody just to

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find these people you need to be a bit weary and some unfortunately some Imams in Britain had been supporting Cardin Hussein Rizvi supporting Mumtaz Qadri supporting these people who openly murder people in the name of God so yeah so I think so that's something where we'll be worried about cool what else is going on people what else is going on right just a week or two back there was this whole North Sentinel II Sentinelese

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thing going on in the news about a kind of evangelist preacher I forgot his name was it David all right right so he what he did is he got on a kind of like a canoe kind of thing he got on a small kind of boat and made his way across into the North Sentinel Sentinelese Islands where there is a very restricted people so these people let me just get his exact name because I was reading up on me

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right so that's it John Chow on the North Sentinel island so these people for those of you who are in a way this falls it's a remote island very far off that falls into the Indian Ocean it does for come under the jurisdiction of India but these are a remote people that have been isolated from the global community this Christian that John Chow tried to go there to spread the word of Christ Allah Christ is coming Jesus Christ and

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he's gonna write so he got there and they killed him these people have been isolated from the global community for approximately thirty two maybe forty thousand years they live there now they are just a very brief community probably spanning maybe under a thousand people now that's all but at one time they were might have much more many more in number right so looks like Christ couldn't help

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Paul John yep looks like the Sentinelese got to him before Jesus Christ could save him now he this guy went there young person too you know yes I want to spread the word of Christ but they and they obviously they are a very they do not they have put it like this they have a very strong immigration policy stronger than break see they they right so they do not want any immigrants and they have a language and a culture that is unique to them they do not allow

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people onto their Island the Indian government in the past few decades did attempt to make some communication and they sent somebody over and then that person just got killed as well and whoever tries to go there they shoot arrows at them and they just kind of shoot Spears and kill them so then the Indian government has just left them alone yep their immigration policy is much toughening Crump's and it's really amazing to kind of think that wow there are people who are who have been isolated on this planet for almost

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thirty to forty thousand years you know preceding almost the the last ice age and and they they just continue just between themselves it's that's like whoa serious leads but you have to remember something these people are from that age that the immune system wouldn't be able to really cope with modern human civilization so you see that trying to modernize them wouldn't really work

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because there are some neighboring islands that they have had some contact with in the past right now those in those islands you'll see that some of those islands did try to get modernized okay now what resulted was just as you'll find with Native Americans just people got exploited drug addictions poverty all of these kind of things nothing nothing really good came about

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it so so you see that this North the North Sentinel island it is part of the the kind of I think it's called the and in alleys kind of Island so there are some other islands not too far away that did get I don't know what the word is really modernized as in they try to integrate with the modern world India they made contact because they fall under the Indian jurisdiction and they did go to that part or the parts and but it nothing good came off it now you have to remember that these people in the North Sentinel island the immune system

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predates all of our bacterium viruses you cannot actually go to Island in fact I think it was the the king of Belgium or was either I don't know the prime minister of Belgium or somebody that tried to visit this island a while back and I think as he approached they just threw Spears and the usual so they just turned back I think he wanted like a royal tour you can go they but you have to remember something look man as in ancient man

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homo sapiens is once we embarked upon the agricultural age about nine to ten thousand years ago living very in close proximity to animals spread and gave rise to a high volume of disease okay because prior to that humans lived as hunter-gatherers they they were foragers they went they hunted they ate they actually had a much less working week than people today so on average people anthropologists say they probably had anything like a fifteen to sixteen hour working week that was all so they hunted

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kept the meat and then that meat they fed on it for whatever a few days hunted again but the rest of the time they were kind of just chillin obviously surviving lion attacks and tiger attacks and but they just get up and keep moving there were no society societies did not exist okay so societies and all of these things are part of the agricultural movement which is only about ten thousand years old which comes after the Ice Age now hunter-gatherers just moved around because they moved around it meant that it was very difficult for

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them to catch diseases and things like this so they were actually quite healthy and hence you get a lot of people today trying to speak about the Paleo diet which is based on the hunter-gatherer so because they didn't have any farming farming wasn't on the scene it didn't exist so they actually never used to eat many carbs so because these things did not really exist in that quantity so what they ate was they did have fat but they did have from let's say animals they did have a meat high-protein natural sugars from fruits and stuff like that but they didn't have

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high carb high carb kind of meals and things like this so when humans settle down with animals and things like these and start to domesticate animals so that they kind of caught from them a lot of diseases and this resulted in the mass you know mass death scale of humanity and so what you have is let's say the human immune system if we're going to base this let's say immune system is zero and all one let's us say to one because it picks up little germs and things like this now animals start living close to us so we get diseases

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from animals so now the immune system kind of has to fix itself get strong and rises above so it gets to two then the diseases they also catch up so the disease's want to kind of they want to survive so they mutate so they become like let's say immune systems of this virus level to immune system level two and then this keeps going so it wipes out so many people people become resilient to the viruses they then get a stronger immune system the virus mutates become stronger so now let's say we are on immune system 100 lets us say right

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now because humanity since the Agricultural age for thousands of years our forefathers and forefathers have been kind of developing antibodies and things like this against viruses so the virus level is also at 100 the virus level is not that one anymore because our immune system is at level 100 so now to these people on the Sentinelese the Sentinelese people or the North Sentinel island they haven't interacted with human beings like that they haven't interacted with those kind of animals like that they have an immune system

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that is still probably at level one two three whatever is they aren't used to the modern day viruses a simple virus would just wipe out the entire island because it would be so powerful compared to their low-level immune systems so this is why that john child this person who was trying to spread the word of Jesus Christ what he was also spreading at a nuclear level was mass disease and death because the slightest cold and flu and bacteria and viruses that he was

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carrying whether it was the phone I don't know chickenpox or measles or whatever he's kind of had inside him it would have wiped out the entire population of that island so these are so it's a good thing that they they said a cha-cha-cha I'll buy her Jesus Christ who liquor a cha-cha-cha with our spear so this is but it's amazing I am really fascinated that there are still people

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today that have had that pretty much like their ancestors thirty to forty thousand years ago Wow they speak or - of course there must be good - of course they don't speak or do they speak I don't know whatever they speak some dialect of the God knows you can check it out even the people of the and only those kind of islands don't actually understand them anymore they dialect or the language is that ancient right people what are some questions

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let's take a look I'm going to be looking at the facts around hid our Ali Salaam who was either a war all the stories around him I'll look at that shortly let's take some of these questions how about the crazy in breeding they're doing I don't know about the crazy inbreeding they're doing what is the value of Orff well are they slum or fall other men he had him really hot in Rizvi just don't try and troll if

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you do right right so them islands have been destroyed that Island isn't destroyed yet North Sentinel island right so what else people what are some questions sorry Sam a messing up bricks II honestly I do not know what's going on with the whole brexit thing I know recently that there was a huge hoo-ha about the government not disclosing the fact that the courts had ruled was it Parliament that ruled of the courts but there was an official legal ruling

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saying that the public have the right or the country has the right to retract article 50 or whatever it was for brixi but they didn't disclose that to the public so I was just watching this yesterday that there's a huge hoo-ha about this and Theresa maze just stuck but anyway anyway are Shia Muslims of course Shia are Muslims in fact you know yesterday when I met up with some of those friends from a few decades ago one of the brothers who was very young back then he was a friend of mine this

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was his younger brother he was very you just a little kid back then but now obviously grown up they they were Shia and they are Shia and he's actually been studying as well and it was really good having a kind of that intra a group dialogue you see my this whole thing on Shia Sunni we've got to understand people right people are not gonna change okay we've got to just realize that now if somebody wants to know something that's fine let's have a dialogue if they don't just I think just leave them

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alone don't kind of because look if you were born a Shia you're gonna pretty much stay as she are if you're born as Sunni you can pretty much stay assume me if you're born a Muslim it's the same thing I mean overall what I'm trying to say now yes if people out of curiosity want a dialogue we want a discussion that's all that's fine you can speak you can have a dialogue you can engage topics you can speak about them rationally you can get into a whole discussion on them but avoid hate promoting hate speech because what some of these people do in things

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like Hyde Park or speaker's corner they you see they just bring books and spread hate against groups that's what I'm against I'm not against having dialogue or even debating if people want to debate a topic in a decent humane way where at the end of it you can kind of hug it out and say it's all good then I think that's all fine you can debate it you can ask people do you seriously believe that do you believe this do you believe that and there's nothing wrong in that I think that the Shiar the she is the Shia are quite I mean I think it's

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interesting that they have a kind of split approach to things like a split almost in some things you find almost like a bipolar a polarized effect where on one hand a very rational which is amazing and but on the other hand they can be very irrational and very emotional highly emotional so I think well you know if they if people wanted a dialogue on certain things that's all good we can you know that that's the way forward I mean I don't know about it

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being the way forward but that's all good but we shouldn't be just trying to shame embarrass create hate that's what I'm saying because what what's the end game what are we gonna get out of that why does the bus mala not have an Aleph on the word ISM that is true the word bismillah doesn't and that's the way it's been written you know from time on on end I mean for you know since the beginning people Muslims have been writing bismillah like that just as there's certain things like a ramen they write there without the Elif as well so

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they they might put an extra but it's not they don't write the Alif and hence hence bismillah ar-rahman rahim they will say that the whole thing adds up to 786 786 but really if you put the Elif of rye man in me which you do pronounce or you see because the Elif abyss me like you don't pronounce it so one could argue that well it's not pronounced so bismillah but when you say a right man you don't say a ramen you say a right man so this like an Aleph is a and that's how it's written it's on the wasn't of

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falen okay so ramen okay you'll get well you'll get many kind of things on that pattern like it's the pattern of learn whether it's going to be things like Joanne option things like I mean I I know some grammarians have challenged if this is that it is the same apparent pattern but whether it's that same one for description or not but a lot of people have said yes it is as well so whether it's a shine hot burn all these

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kind of things now you will see that right man you pronounce it but you just don't write it so if you did go with the actual thing it ought to be 787 not 786 is morality a byproduct of evolution through empathy my food that is a very good question I do believe in it kind of is I believe that allah subhanaw taala has that morality it exists as a it's kind of foundations

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have emerged through evolution so you will see that there is a morality there is an empathy in mammals ok reptiles don't seem to display any empathic kind of behavior they don't seem to show demonstrate any affection even towards their young mammals due to all mammals tend to kind of display empathy they display a sense of care towards the young now people have argued that that caring between mother and child mother and offspring

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that that kind of relationship people anthropologists have argued that that may have been the foundation for morality later on now this is it's very interesting because as you see this in animals you see this in dogs in all kinds of and dogs are obviously they display a great level of empathy and people people obviously love dogs and it's a is fascinating because dogs are the oldest domesticated creature so we're talking perhaps is about fourteen thousand years ago so before the end of

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the Ice Age maybe 14 to 15 if a row around those figures that that many thousand years ago before the Ice Age had come to an end that man did domesticate the dog the dog is an offspring of the wolf dogs are wolves there is no you know people who speak about evolution just take a look at a wolf and take a look at a poodle or you know like like those I forgot the name of those those peeking kind of dogs all these very small but take a look at these dogs they are one us Allah they

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are wolves there is no dogs have emerged only through wolves the way they look different is a result of him and the way humans have allowed them to breed and the way humans have controlled the the breeding of dogs he has resulted in all these different kind of you know these different pedigrees and these different types of dogs that we have today is simply a result of human intervention the Chihuahua yes of course

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I mean all of these are wolves there is no two ways about that dogs are just wolves the soul 15,000 years ago they were simply wolves and these wolves started to get closer to civilization and some people that why they got closer some people say that they were scavenging so they went you know they would feed on the meat that the humans would kind of dump and stuff like this but they got closer and eventually they got kind of tamed and domesticated and then through this inbreeding that that humans allowed and controlled this is what you have you

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have dogs today and and dogs are deemed so low in fact I shared this quote of John Elia the other day which I found fascinating I love John Elia is an amazing poet but he said he said Wofford Arika Jabbar Artie here that when we come to the topic of loyalty Ashraf Suleman loketh good tokima solid he said that Ashraf or monocot which is a name for humans which means the most noble of creation right so it's it's like in order to when you say a shovel modulo heart

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everybody understands you're talking about human it's like saying in English I don't know like when we say the king of the jungle and we're talking about animals everybody understands you're talking about a lion so in order to when we say a shuffle monocot the most noble of creation it means a human being so he said that when it comes to the topic of loyalty the most noble of creation give the example of dogs [Laughter] that we couldn't find it in our own species to exemplify loyalty but yes

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I'll am Wofford re kobato d800 shuffle mallow cut katoki me salad this is the hole so I think anyway if you look at primates apes and things like this and the different monkeys and in fact this is really fascinating yeah you know you get me our topic I interested in you know this is I actually encourage you all to look into this that the different you know the the whole the great apes and the different kind of monkeys that we have chimps now

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people have said that obviously all primates are related human beings are not from monkeys by the way I mean people ought to know these but they say that there was a common kind of source that they kind of all originated from gorillas you have monkeys chimpanzees gorillas and you have orangutangs and you have humans but you see something that was considered just part of the chimpanzees they used to call them pygmy chimpanzees but now they've realized they're actually a different species is the bonobo the bonobo is incredibly

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interesting because somebody asked me a question the other week about is nature cruel and bonobos have a very day by default are not quite peaceful it's really fascinating they are actually studying bonobos is so amazing and I think those people that have studied them and written books on them there's an amazing book by dr.

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Fran's de Waal which is called the bonobo and the atheist and I'm going through that currently and it is fascinating about the morality that they have and the way they make peace all the time they are actually very they have matriarchal society so they have a matriarchy and not patriarchy so unlike and unlike chimps who can be very cruel at times so chimps will even kill infants they will do things they're not chimps you know people look at chimpanzees they are you know they look cute they are ruthless if you ask people

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that are primatologists they're very very ruthless but bonobos on the other hand are very peaceful and they take care of the young within their whole group and they're not actually they're not generally violent and they it's just really interesting in this whole and the way they live like I said they so even though bonobo males are physically greater than female bonobo monkeys but yet the females seem to rule which is astray an interesting phenomenon but yes so they have a lot of they have morality at this scale now

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human beings obviously we have a much more sophisticated morality but my point of saying this is I think that Allah has created in San with a kind of instinct a morality instinct which is a morality base it's a very rural base it's like our language base and a language instinct which is very rule so which ever like whichever society you born in your language instinct can evolve and mutate to pick up that language in a

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similar way I feel that morality wherever we are it kind of evolves to our day and age so that's my thoughts on morality I think it's definitely very fascinating how about the Saha us hobby cat dog what will happen to it in the hereafter god knows what will happen to it in the Hereafter I mean people say people have said that the dog will be in Jannah people have said things like this for people hello

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Adam are you familiar with the masked Arab oh no I'm not actually I don't know what the masked Arab is I don't know what that is can we as comforts continue to read the Bible yes of course you can continue to read the Bible you can take inspiration you can read anything look there is a hadith and even though some people may critique the chain and stuff but the meaning is correct that it's a teaching which says Kelly metal hickman volatile movement that the word of wisdom is the lost property of a

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believer anima what did I have ah who be her now where so ever he or she finds it they are more deserving of it so if you find wisdom in reading other certain books or certain scriptures then by all means you can do that you can take inspiration from there as well first Lu Kareem asks in the hadith about the barababa our scholars say the well was fit to bathe in although it was a filthy well how can this be correct as

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the well was small and water stagnant right first Lu hmm I'm told not to sit with a little bit ah what is this about masked arab is the ex-muslim channel oh I think I may have come across something but I've not really watched too much of it yes you should check out the master Arab mostly hydral s word right do you believe that surpassing the evolution due to cognitive revolution is good for humans surpassing the evolution due to

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cognitive revolution is good for you I'm not so sure what that question means masked Arab is an ex-muslim spreading anti-islamic videos on YouTube ok I'll check out some of them I mean you see I do watch some X Muslim videos and things like this it depends there's some ex-muslims I will watch the things people like this I mean now I'll watch different people's thing but it comes up on YouTube sometimes I watched a I watch kind of snippets I mean I may not watch the whole thing but Abdullah Samir is a

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popular kind of X Muslim mm-hmm there's a lot of videos and I do find him to be quite I find him to be quite sincere in what he's doing this there are others Abdullah kondal does I've seen some of these things there is another person I forgotten is his name now it's he he has its core something the is it called the prophet or something like it's called mmm I forgotten now I think it might be the apostate prophet or something like this

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I've I don't really that that guy's stuff I've seen a few of them we do vids a video vid stuff I find quite respectful to be fair that apostate prophet person I've watched a few of his things I don't watch his things anymore to be honest with you because I just found him very like the sole purpose I don't know if this is his purpose but what comes across is the sole purpose is to just offend Muslims like I just want to quote like it's way too venomous like it I don't like that vibe okay I don't mind people saying things that may be

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offensive I don't mind people saying things that may be offensive I feel we can you know I could we as Muslims shall be able to take it it's not about but then there's people who appear to be just full of hatred like they like just soaked in bitter kind of venom and everything they spew is pure hatred like I that kind of vibe I dislike that vibe utterly I I so I remember watching one or two clips by this person and then I just never again

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I thought that you know like this I just thought even if it wasn't against Islam even if somebody was doing that against Hinduism or against Christianity I would not watch it because I just you know I just don't like that kind of vibe I don't like people just full of hatred and full of venom and if somebody is gonna say something and even if it's offensive but they're not necessarily full of hatred they're not they're just trying to show something and maybe they might say something which might take the meek or they might have a laugh or they might that kind of stuff I'll listen to it I'll hear what they've got to say sad

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God you know I watched one clip of that sad God which was some show of his on the rogue on the Rogen show and it was utterly disappointing it was just a pure anti-muslim like and the stuff he was saying just nonsense so I was just disappointed I wouldn't really watch him I'm not really too interested but like I said people have been decent even if they're gonna say things which are offensive if I come across it I'll watch it to see what do they have to say and I'll try to because remember what's bothering them is bothering maybe thousands of people

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so it's always good to see and maybe because I feel as Muslims we should be secure enough to answer anything like I think if you have a question you should be able to ask it and I will try to answer if I can't answer I should be able to look into it to be able to answer because I feel that Islam does have an answer to whatever objection is being presented so and I'm confident about that so I'm not scared or intimidated in people in listening to people criticizing Islam I will listen to it but it's just as so long as

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they're not full of hatred and that's all so if they are full of hatred that mufasal' Islam hmm I don't really not really too interested in his because once again I watched a clip a while back we him and some I don't know who the other guy was some I think I don't know whether he was an imam or he was some he was a Muslim some religious person I think from America and they had this kind of shouting thing going on it came up on Facebook and somebody was sharing it and so I saw it and and it began like this like they're having a 2-way kind of dialogue so I don't know whether it was Instagram or Facebook or what but that

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person the American Muslim person say to him yeah so what's up I mean something like that and he says well Islam is a piece of crap and and that's how the dialogue began and then that guy says well I think you're a piece of crap I never insulted you why are you insulting me and so he says well you know blah blah blah blah blah blah and it goes back and forth and I was just like this is just nonsense I mean that's seriously not the way to have a dialogue but in all honesty III did feel like saying I mean not that I would want to speak to him because I I don't want to

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speak to people who are full of hatred but I would say that look in that case his whole this this person of us in in that clip that I saw he was saying to the other person why are you offending me and when I'm simply insulting a religion I'm not insulting you but my argument to that would be that look why what's wrong let me just ask what is wrong with insulting you like if I'm gonna be just simple like let's reduce this argument what is wrong with like I'm not hurting you physically what's

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wrong with insulting you like well why would you say that I don't have the right to insult you like actually swear at you why not so like what what grounds do you feel that you have in a kind of like indemnity in being protected from or nobody can violate your mental space by swearing why not so and you'd say well because it's because really you wouldn't have anything to say what could anybody possibly say I can understand them

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physically harming you but you would say well that's physical causing physical now here you might you see whatever argument you would use they would also use in maintaining the peace about religion you see so so I think like when some atheists or X Muslims they just attack religion in an insulting way and they feel that it's okay to insult religion but it's not okay to insult people personally then why wait is that you know God given sacrosanct right emerge from it doesn't emerge from

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anyway because we would you get you know we don't have no absolute categorical right that nobody can soldiers but this is just human courtesy that we believe that as human beings we should you know we shouldn't insult other people so I feel that look we generally generally speaking we should have respect for all religions generally speaking we don't need to believe in them we don't need to but just the thought that well a lot of people do adhere to it so let's have respect for it that said now you might debate certain

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topics and at times I understand that people I do feel that people have the right to kind of satirize and they do have the right to kind of make fun of concepts that they don't believe in and I know this may seem contradictory what I'm saying now but it's not because it's one of those things that's difficult to express but it's in in reality it can be it can be perceived so you can tell when somebody finds a concept ridiculous that they will laugh and joke at it but they will still respect the religion in essence like they will have that respect

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for the you know they're not trying to and it's difficult putting this in words sometimes this kind of this separation of so that's but that's what I'm saying I am all for free speech but I am against hate speech if that makes sense right so right anyway what else is going on people let me what is your opinion on that well that is my opinion on hate speech and freeze apparently Tommy endorses that Shia Imam which he io Imam towhee D oh he probably does endorse him

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I think cancel Windsor yeah doesn't make sense what I'm saying doesn't make sense right okay I see I can see the the difficulty what I'm trying to say is that at a generic level generically speaking that they should be respect for what people have like as in Allah like some kind of harm allowing people to exist in the way they are that said you can challenge concepts you can challenge you can ridicule that is true I feel that people do have the right to do that but it shouldn't just

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be outright like swearing at like I shouldn't just say look like if somebody wanted a ridicule Islam I feel they have the right to ridicule it if they're not a Muslim they have the right now I feel that they do have the right to say well oh this doesn't make any sense hahaha they can say stuff like that they can do that but just to non-stop swear at Islam to say like okay yeah I'm making a live video now Islam is so full of crap Islam is all full of la blah blah blah pppppp Islam is ppppp Islam is like this is wrong that's what I'm saying if that makes if I can simplify

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to that so we don't need to swear that's what I'm saying don't need to swear at religion but if you want to satirize or ridicule concepts within it if you're not a Muslim you have the right to do that I I feel you do and I feel that we as Muslims we should be secure enough to be able to answer any objections do I believe in miracles human beings are the greatest miracle honestly look at us I mean is it just this week was it that

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they've landed that the robots on Mars and they've started to measure the the tremors and things like this and and you could hear the the sound of the wind and things like this the movement on Mars amazing man this is human beings have done this wow-whee honestly it's you know when you think about it it's just they've operated on a grape they have so the fact we haven't wiped ourselves out yet is a miracle that is a miracle

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freedom of speech should not be the freedom to offend you see there's a difference I feel that freedom of speech does contain the right to offend I accept that but I feel that as a society we recognize what swearing is and it shouldn't be just swearing that's what I'm saying you do have the right to to kind of satirize ridicule concepts you don't make that don't make sense to you but you shouldn't be just you shouldn't be swearing that's what I'm saying because nonce like this kind of just swearing is

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stupid and it's it's it's just inflammatory that's what I'm saying right so when I read a hadith that says a tree attacks someone how am I supposed to deal with that there's no such thing as a tree attacking someone David Pitts that was is definitely a fabricated or a weak hadith there's no unrestricted free speech anywhere on earth I accept that so hey that is a valid statement okay and obviously and I don't think they should be unrestricted so people shouldn't be calling to racism they shouldn't be calling to hates you know inciting violence and things like this

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mostly Solomon spoke to a bird bird told him what bunch of things in a language is that supernatural please watch my clip on Solomon Ali Salaam him speaking first of all hood hood I don't believe hood was a bird I believe it was a person because if you read all that I actually go through in detail align the Quran uses the pronouns and uses the plural which is only used for human beings so it's not used for animals when he's speaking of hood hood so just to kind of thoughts on the gene-editing controversy in China I need to really

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read up more on that on the or find out more on the gene-editing generally when Allah says that Solomon Ali Salam alumna who month epithelial this kind of bird whispering and things like this this is as many of them of a serene like people like allama Abdul Karim Allah Serena stop seeing or what's almost none of the people say this is the same as people who it's a skill art that some humans possess in being able to communicate at a low level with animals like that like horse whispering like the way they train horses or the way people communicate

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with dogs or the way people communicate with certain birds so Solomon Ali Salim was given that as a gift to be able to kind of whisper that bird whispering that's what it didn't mean that he had conversations so when people do horse whispering or this they don't like so how was your day and have a full-on conversation so what do you think about breaks it that's not what it means it means that they can communicate at a low level and they understand and they have a connection that's what it means some would say an angel speaking to a man is not logical and beyond reason that's absolutely true

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but what does that mean an angel and a man and is this the kind of divine inspiration all these terms used in a way for human beings to understand things that to relate to things that they could normally relate to that's what I would say does it mean you see a lot of the imagery that comes comes later on and people use it for simple folk to kind of understand and make sense of so the ant as well I mentioned that the ant and Solomon ELISA Lam that there's two responses to that the main understanding as as I mentioned

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in the tough scene I go through this in much detail please watch my clip the main thing is he was shown this as a vision that the ants are even seeking like look how they empathy that because the ants are actually an incredible creature they're the only creatures to have domesticated species before human beings did so they undomesticated plants as well the domesticated plants and they domesticated bugs before human beings domesticated other creatures and domesticated agriculture so they kind of beat us to it so that's a

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fascinating thing in itself but he's shown that look if ants at this level are showing this structure and care because ants they work as a solid unit then he has a greater sense of responsibility over his kingdom that was the moral of the vision that he was shown of the ants all sahaba sinless no Sahaba are not sinless nobody claimed well they shouldn't be claiming that the Sahaba were infallible do i sha DS believe anything bad about ali radiya lon in hadith should be rejected I'm not sure what that means

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what is the NASA P Navi is a term that was used about people against the initial Shia all that people that were allegedly hated on said earlier the Ilan I'm I think in the past I maybe in the time of Muhammad and Ali and when they were fighting and other people it may have been may have had some kind of reality I think later on is just a slur that is used for people who weren't so Pro the final baits that kind of thing

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but I think it's a very politically a sectarian eyes sectarian Laden label so it's a label with a lot of sectarian energy that is then projected onto people right okay can we curse here's eat look some scholars said you could curse his heed people like imam ahmed and humble said that and other scholars said no you shouldn't do things like this imam abu hanifa and other people did not used to curse imam malik didn't curse Izzie's and things like this i would say look there's nothing good out

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of cursing it's not about personally if people people could do whatever the hell they want but I wouldn't bring up a generation on people a generation of people on hatred this Deen is not one built upon hatred it ought to be built upon compassion right so that's my so I'm not really down with this whole thing of trying to teach people to curse characters even if they were bad characters even if they were I mean first of all nobody ever is 100% bad and nobody ever is 100% good in that

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sense and so I mean and but we may think that somebody was messed up and we may have a very bad because of them fair enough I think we're entitled to hold our opinions but I don't think you should really bring people up and cultivate them I mean kind of inculcate them with these these with this venom and hatred of saying you should curse you should curse what kind of a religion is this and really that is one of the shortcomings really I think of the she I especially in my opinion I think this is

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something that some she alhamdulillah I think have picked up on but that this this this emotional side of these has given a really bad image to their whole existence to the Shia thing like this beating yourself cutting yourself whipping yourself cursing cursing it becomes a very it's a very dark and a very bad image that people have them so here musti's opinion on dr.

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Tyrell audrey generally dr. Tyrell Audrey I think he's done a lot of great things and obviously he's had controversies it said different things in the past and he's taken different I know he took a very academic approach at one point published a hell of a lot of books I don't think any Brill V scholar in recent times has rivaled him in maybe the number of books he published he did tuffsy then he got really academic he went into hadith he did this his work his project on Sahih Muslim I commend that I mean he worked he aged with Arab scholars he's probably one of the only Brill V

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scholars in recent times I know in the past the legend peeved kerim Shah served may Allah have mercy on him was a great symbol but that did things like that but in recent times we don't really see any Braille he's doing things like that and then he went off into other directions as well they speed kind of direction I think with miracles and things then I think he went into a political angle and did that and so I think this there's naturally like any person there's gonna be criticisms there I don't really have any strong opinion against him at all I would respect him I did visit his his place in Karachi and met the people

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there but so I have respect I mean it doesn't mean I agree with necessarily his views but yeah how many languages do you speak I don't speak enough man I don't speak enough he even spoke to the dead yeah this kind of stuff is weird let's get on to this Hitler speaking about miracles people so somebody had asked me about Haidar Ali Salaam and what is this whole thing about his or what are you sorry what do you make of a drum roll a two-room becoming a magic figure there's a whole tour own cult emerging people

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are becoming obsessed with this to rule I actually haven't watched it but right so on that thought people have asked me about Hitler those of you have heard about no not sometimes people say his er and from there in English Kaiser Kaiser does sound sleek though yeah you gotta say Kaiser Kaiser Soze that boy that was a Don movie usual suspects

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hep ik people epic right but right so I thought well let's lean in on this book well Heather the umbrella all had their fee I'm real hard this was written by Malala al-hadi great Hanafy scholar from few centuries back who wrote on the topic of hurdle now Hitler Ali Salaam who was ADA okay Hitler is this character that exists in Islamic literature and in Islamic belief

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and especially in Islamic folk belief right so first of all what's his name a lot of the people in the past the scholars tend to prefer the name how they're now his nowadays what seems to be more popular amongst people is hidden it can be said as Hitler it can be said as hid or it can be said as harder it can be I mean people have used any of these and many of these kind of names his this wasn't his actual name per se

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his name once again we're gonna come to whether what his actual name people have allegedly said so Mullaly little party fields in this book that his name was Ballia Ballia sounds a bit this he doesn't like a desi nickname Ballia his name was bull yeah I don't know why where on earth he got that from and his Cunha was apparently able a bus know where he got that one from but so who was this hidden hater Oh ha there means the one to do with

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green why they call him green is apparently because where he would sit that piece of land that piece of soil would turn green so this is what some people say some people say no because he would carry something that's green and and they've got different versions for why he was called her there now what is this whole story about what is this merchants and this is important because he is the the character the person that people say Allah is referring to in

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Surat al-kahf so if I open for us if we go to Surat al-kahf right how to be lemon Shaitaan or a team when we approach verse 60 in surah kahf Allah mentions what is called a masala Fatah who abre then I had a blow to morale by harini oh um dear Papa burn now this is a story of Moses begins at this stage in Surat al-kahf and then it's about Moses and his assistant his kind of companion

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this young man who in the hadith you'll see is you shebna moon Joshua and they set off on this journey fallible of a madman a Benny hey - Yahoo Tahoma Fatah Hadassah Villa who feel very sorry bah and they reached this place and they've they take some rest and they forget they have this fish and the fish kind of jumps out into the into the sea then they go off and and the whole point is that they are told that that was the place we were meant to go to where these two seas meet and here they meet it mentions for what you there abdomen a bird in an art Anatomy nineteen our

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alumni who militant our alma that they found a slave of us and this slave had been given certain knowledge and him and Moses go on this journey for father Allahu Musa Iturbi Ocala and and aluminum in my limiter rushed so he asks him can I go with you on this journey and he says to him that this servant says that look you won't be able to keep up with me and you won't be able to be patient enough to put up with me and Moses tells him no I will and and they set off on this journey and on this

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journey this this person had their or hidden I will call him hither I prefer hither hither he embarks on certain tasks and adventures amongst them they embark on a ship and he purposely damages the ship and then in another place he murders a child and then in another place he rectifies a broken wall Moses on each of these occasions objects heavily and each time is reprimanded for not being able to maintain his promise of staying silent

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and then Moses apologizes on each occasion and then eventually he is told some of the secrets and other says to him that or Martha Alto Annamarie that that's not something that I did out of my choice but this is what God had in and instructed or inspired me to do so now this the elaboration of this hadith we find in Sahil Bihari okay so and this is where we actually find the greater detail so this had the II think I'll be hard in this several hadith to do with Moses and Heather spanning several pages

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but this particular one in the book of tafseer where you have hadith 4 7 to 4 sorry after that beginning for 7 to 5 well it's all a masala Fatah hoola Abraham albariño and the Aqaba so moosa says that I will go he tells his Joshua that I will go so in this hadith it begins with side image obeyed saying to ignore bus that there's a person called knoefel bakr lean an awful big curly was somebody that would tell tales he was an

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orator he said that the Moses of Heather was a different Moses so he was saying this in a day and age society when Jame tells this to ignore bus it numbers objects and says katha by a dual law that he's lying I heard a wave niqab tell me that the Prophet said in a Musa pharmacotherapy bani israel fasulo a Yunus Arnim so musa one day stood and he preached and he said to people that somebody asked him if bani israel the israelite who is the most knowledgeable of people so he said I am because he was a prophet

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of God so at this stage that he is told by God that actually you these other people more knowledgeable than you why didn't you set off on this journey and he goes on this journey and for ojala alayhi in le ab dance Allah tells him I have a servant who is B majima al-bahrain at a particular location with the two seas unite he is more knowledgeable than you so so he sets about on this journey he's told to take a fish with him and carry it so they go on they set off one palapa who would be

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fatter who so he's you shall I burn and noon so Joshua I mentioned inside Buhari his companions name is Joshua hatela Atia Sakura until they reached this big boulder this big rock what the ARA osama they place their heads down they lay their heads phenomen they go to sleep now this is a really interesting point why because this is where a lot of I feel the scholars in the past for whatever reasons overlooked this the rest of everything that happens happens

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whilst they were asleep it was a vision right so this thing of them going to sleep here as it mentions and he alludes to in the Quran that they go to this place and then this Joshua sees that the fish takes a unique it takes a unique path into the sea as the verse of the quran mentions the he says look Fattah Hadassah bila who feel very sorry baa and then Moses says to him as they set off then they get up and they walk off and then later Moses says to him I'm hungry where's that fish and he says oh

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but the fish it jumped into the sea but it went in such a strange way it kind of emerged and and the reason it was doing this is all this was a vision they never emerged from the sleep.this the rest of everything that happens happens in a dream in a vision right so he goes and and they say oh really is that way that let's go back to that place and they can see that these fish the Mufasa Dean say that the water around it is like so as it's kind of taking its kind of unique path into the sea the water around it is making a

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formation the waters kind of standing up around it it's keeping itself it's from collapsing and it's really strange so they like wow what is this about and then they they find this person Heather and in certain stories that he would wherever he sits the land turns green and that's because this is all a vision it's happening within a vision hence you see that look all of a sudden you will find that they then as they carry on that all of a sudden they're up on a boat so many of

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the seller discussed how how was Heather on this boat puncturing creating a hole in this boat so it can drown so what he does is he he damages this boat so it will it will start to sink and because it's damaged the person that was about to kind of Rob the boat will let it be but the question that the seller asked is when he was damaging this boat the people on the boat they weren't blind I mean if you're on a boat and somebody is damaging it why did they let him do this so Abul alia from the cell earth and other people they said that's because he

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was invisible to them you see now this is the thing and then all of a sudden they no longer on this boat and then they're traveling and they see this buoy and he murders this buoy and moosa aleihsalaam says to me laqad you know Jetta shay a new car the war on earth have you done a curtal turn ifs and Zakia be ready enough that you murdered a an innocent soul so the prophet Moses is condemning what he's done and he say to him look you I told you you can't be patient and then they go and they find a wall all of a sudden

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they're at a town where this wall is dilapidating and and Heather fixes rectifies this wall and he fixes it and he asks Moses and then Moses say to him look why didn't you take these people of this village were rude to us they didn't even offer us because in that day and age there was like a global custom or especially in that regional custom that when you went past a village if there were strangers you would offer them food or water that was a custom but these people ignored Moses and Heather they completely blanked them and yet Heather fixes their wall and does work for them

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and so Moses say to him why didn't you at least charge them for this we should have taken something from them we worked we gave labour to them so and then at this stage Heather says that she had a pharaoh who he says had this is had a farrago be neewa Bannock this is it we now this it all ends here you go your way I go my way now the question is how were they shifting from all these paradigms and then he tells Moses that okay I'll tell you what I was doing that that child was gonna cause great harm and Allah was gonna replace that child

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with another child and that ship was gonna get robbed and these things and so on and so forth the ship that there was a king Kanna what are our home Malik who Yahoo the coolest Athena teen a husband that there was a king that was snatching every ship now the reason for this was that you see the reason for all of this was that there was a moral now that a lot of the scholars in the past took this as a literal kind of reading now when they took it as a literal reading they kind of got stuck because now they had to explain a lot of what was going

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on so they had to say first of all who was hit on so this became a question so now when they said okay who was gonna some of them said all first of all was he a prophet so this became the first kind of debate so many people said that oh and this once again you're gonna get a hell of a lot of debate and discussion going on here so you you're gonna have scholars that say okay he was a prophet for Taylor in Nabi then they say was he a prophet sent to the people or he wasn't sent to any people so they

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disagree once again you're gonna get people like ignore Josey coming from the cellar even a bus this transmission from him from what happened I'm gonna be they said he was a prophet sent to people that's what because he says my file to an Emory I didn't do this myself God commanded me to do this and God only commands prophets so even though Josey took this position Mohammed ablaze hark and so they had this understanding that he must have been a prophet then but he wasn't sent to a man no he says well let the allelic zaroon and no canon opinion so

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he was a prophet most people say that yet you have people like below we have it'll bother he's saying that most of the scholars say he was not a nabi and other people challenged him for saying that then some people said okay he wasn't a Nabi he was a wali he was a holy person and this is like a possible for shady in his result of the saw wolf he mentions that then you had another discussion is he somebody who lives right throughout the ages so you have people like him and no we saying that Jim who or majority of the scholars believe that he is still alive and

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amongst us so he's like living amongst us this soul who kind of travels amongst human beings Ignis Allah says who are you named Adam who Jamaa here a lord a man so he says that this is even though eveness allah says even though some had the theme denied this and so you get this this kind of understand some people said he will then combine with the Mahdi hadar the Mahdi and Jesus they will all get together he must Adele her on ajumma you have these kind of stories that emerged you had people like Abdul

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Razak kalakashi who was a Suffolk scholar from the 8th century who actually said Heather was not even a real person he was simply a symbol symbolism that Allah meant giving that this kind of an expansion in the universe was symbolized by this character of Heather and Ely and he mentions that Ilyas Ali Salam another prophet that is mentioned in the Quran that we don't know much about but there's a lot of stories around was about the kind of the kind of caving in so these were opposites so this was

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Abdul Razak shake up the radical Kashi from about 700 years ago so her worthy in his book said the hither Ali sallam has told us 300 hadith had that a man that he told him and the people in his time hadith that he actually heard from the Prophet Shaba this is so we went to this extent and then obviously some scholars said look like hospital Iraq he said look let's behave ourselves the Heather is not somebody who transmits

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hadith okay now so most people felt that look Heather was a prophet even Imam Ghazali went that way right so the whole thing then then they have all these interpretations why did he do these things why did he kill the boy why did God allow him to commit murder and they said well oh this was to save the family later on because the family were going to the family were going to later on really suffer at the hands of this child so God was gonna replace him so you have all of these kind of thing and some people obviously challenged this whole

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thing certain Muslims felt that Heather and aleeah's both are alive these two prophets still roam the earth and they meet every year ahead okay and that they have drank from the what they say Sheriff I mean I Neal hired from the elixir of life so they can't die this is one of the interpretations and some people feel that these two Haidar Ali Salam and Ilyas aleihsalaam meet every night they roam around the earth and they meet and then other people challenge these people said look that's not true a long time

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ago said there's no such Haditha Hitler Ali Salim is alive all these things are our faults even a taymiyah took that understanding other people I believe April Josie may have gone that way even akathisia they used the verse of the Quran that were magic Allen Ali beside him in public al hold we have never given any humans eternal life the Imam Buhari is allegedly of this opinion that no he died he died and they used the hadith as an example that the Prophet said all right a comely letter come Hadi do you see this night they will not be a single person on the planet today that a hundred years from today is still alive

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meaning that death comes over us all so they say mama hardly used that as a Delisle then people have all these stories that all know he did exist then they say well if he existed why didn't he meet the prophet and the companions so then people say he did they come up with these stories like in the most other of cavil Hakim you have stories Malala how he brings that he went and gave condolences to the companions and then people say oh he met the Prophet some people say he will live and eventually will fight the job then you have all these other stories of like people saying they saw Hidde like Ibrahim oberek saying especially a lot

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to do with the battlefield so every time there's this kind of like they they saw somebody even though Mubarak saying I met this person on the you know we approach my horse and he was like this and then I saw him on the on the battlefield and then I saw him here and this was hidden so basically what you have is anytime throughout history under certain ominous a kind of circumstance Constance's a a kind of all striking figure is met people in there folk belief felt that that was hidden the way the Christians kind of had this with st.

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George or with other people that they they they that they all we saw st. George are when we were in Jerusalem and we saw this and so every time Muslims are kind of going on certain battles or they better certain strange you know kind of figure that it's kind of acting like kind of almost ominously strange and odd and might say some words of wisdom and then you don't see him and they felt oh that must have been hidden Alesana so this whole issue arises why

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because Muslims felt that they needed to explain who this character was why even though the Quran doesn't mention him as Hader but inside Buhari you have this hadith right that he was called hither and then if he's an actual person if he's a person how could he do all these things over he must be a prophet well if he's a prophet was he sent to a people no he wasn't sent to a people but he was instructed so if he used to go around interfering in nature killing people and building things and drowning shapes or with hidden kind of greater good then

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does he still continue to do that and then people felt yes of course he's still alive and in fact he's still amongst us as Imam Noah we and eveness Allah and all these people and see you'll see and all these people felt and the truth is people look from a folklore perspective people of all religions have kind of believed in these kind of things it's nothing unique to that kind of Muslim folklore you will see people in Christianity believing that Saints are still kind of these ancient Saints still kind of roam amongst them in Hindu mythology you'll have about avatars kind

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of roaming around amongst people interfering with the divine laws of sure and stuff like this and but from a objective perspective there is no such thing as hid our ally Salaam like that okay the truth is that this was all a vision it was all in a dream and the reason musa alehsalaam was shown those that dream was not that vision was not really it was to reinforce his own mission you see because the three events

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that took place in that green were deeply connected to the life and mission of Moses alaysalam you see Moses are in this particular dream you will see that they they embark upon this ship and they damage this ship so something being very damaged okay but yet it has a greater good that will come out of this you see the Israelites the

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way they had been damaged the way Moses had to lead them out of the kind of calamity this was to reinforce his mission the candies Israelites actually make it these people who are constantly pestering and annoying the Prophet these people that have been damaged for generations now that that even though they've undergone this damage and they are trying to go back to this kingdom of God on earth they want they're trying to head back to Jerusalem that this will that this has some hidden hailing it the

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fact that neither murders this this child he didn't murder him in real life God would never allow anybody to murder a child that would be absurd because if you're gonna say well it was for a greater good then why not murder all the other children right that doesn't make any sense right because if you're gonna say well God murdered this child because the child was gonna grow up and turn them into a car field well what about all the other cafes on earth why doesn't God murder their children so what is what an absurd thing that would that belief would never you see in Moses

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in his life he had committed accidentally murder he had murdered a person in a fight so it got into a fight with and with one of the Egyptian pharaoh soldiers and he had hit him resulting in his death from which Moses had fled now this thing was always bothering Moses that you know I accidentally killed that person and this incident or in the vision where he was to witness that actually that did happen yes but there was a greater good that

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because of that you fled and because of you fleeing a great journey of prophecy prophethood and the salvation of the Israelites was began to unfold so this was to do with Moses witnessing this murder of this child in his vision not in reality and as to building this wall and Moses getting being like kind of frustrated why didn't you charge them this was because Moses was fed up with the behavior of these relights just because they were pestering him

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they even went when he goes to Mount Sinai he comes back they've built a golden calf what is this about you know viraja Musa Allah omigod Vanna Asifa that Moses comes back and he's angry for uncle al wah hah he threw the kind of tablets that he was so angry that what on earth is wrong with you people but Allah was showing in this vision that look yes these people the village villagers disrespected them they didn't host them well they didn't

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because Moses you see Moses dies before the Israelites reach Jerusalem they don't actually enter Moses does not end Jerusalem he dies before the Israelites actually make it across the Jordan River and into Jerusalem he never sees the fruits of his whole mission but God shows him in this vision that yes the wall right now is dilapidated but these orphans will grow up and beneath it is a treasure which will manifest in the

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great magnificent kingdom of David and Solomon serving and playing out to be one of the most powerful kingdoms on earth in its time that this was a manifestations of this all of these three incidents related deeply to the life and mission of Moses aleihsalaam so this is what hid our aleihsalaam was he was part of that vision he's not actually a real person and he's not actually somebody who roams around amongst us interfering in that sense

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unless you're using that term symbolically okay so symbolically I guess you could say things like that but in Muslim folklore many Muslims believe he is a person he's roaming around and he's doing all these things but that's not actually real I mean many Muslims might believe that but that's not actually true cool guys I hope that made some sense I hope it helped certain people inshallah whoa whoa people whoa that's taking us way way beyond people certain people's bedtimes all right folks with that I think we're

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gonna wrap it up I hope things somebody said many prophets have many allegations against them do inshallah let me know I will try to respond I I do feel that Muslims we have a duty to to respond and I feel that we should never be insecure about our faith but at the same time we should remove these cobwebs of folklore superstition and mythology I feel we should remove them and we should be confident about our faith but that does involve exploring certain aspects and answering them where that's necessary right so with that people hell yeah

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