Hadith Studies: Terminologies Part 1

hmm bismillah r-rahman r-rahim in the handling level or salat wa salam I love a Suleiman Mustafa well either be living on football for Salam Allahu alaikum warahmatullah wabarakatuh an asylum become ya Shabaab we had a thirst Allah decent who do who mean Kitab a behalfs if normal octane say Raja Deen mysamma

tell Cara tell Cara tell move today what an autopsy at Almonte now I'm going to explain we have began o soul hadith in the last lesson what I want to do what is the purpose we give a quick objective I want us to have some familiarity with the terminologies the technicalities the nomenclature of the hadith world so when people categorize hadith what are the words that they use why do they call it that what what is the definition of the

criteria for a hadith to meet a particular category and what are these categories that's what I want us to have some understanding of I want that to be a means to us studying hadith this I mean in this we're we where we are doing this this is not a means to an end although maybe you know in certain places or in other I'm not sure the circles people may be studying and then enhancing their knowledge upon hadith almost all are hadith and taking it layer upon layer upon layer and then maybe looking at original and doing all sorts and that in itself is a science

but for us this is a means and a relatively brief means to an end so we want to understand what are these categories getting off but also taking into consideration of many I'm not actually like a llama or you know in that on that scale well they're not heading in that direction so some things maybe a bit too overwhelming for them so let's do this in a palatable digestible way so we began previously the reason I'm telling you that what makes what that sheds light on this not being

text-dependent okay because we it is not necessary for us to be covering a particular book what is necessary is the notion the concept the the understanding so although we did take a look at some of the work or the previous lesson we took some understandings from a doctorate behind in his day serum hasta la hadith but we've handled we've benefitted from there we're going to now take a look at the definitions and categories from abnormal Octane's book I will just briefly introduce him and go through his book this is something it's

a lot more Swift it's it's written quite I say simply not simplistically so it's not simplistic text it's a simple text it's brief it's called a reminder death carrot al-muqtadir what table settlement ah he that it is almost a reminder for somebody at an elementary stage and it is a point to take heed from for those who are more of an advanced stage that's what he's cool once we've done this the aim is we can maybe look at another text that I've mentioned we where we can have a quick

quiz as well cover the text the poem have a quick quiz on what is the understanding of these words so hopefully by if we can cover this today the whole text even unlocking he says towards the end of it that he finished it with inside a team obviously in the 9th century history where he or the 8th century he passes away in 804 hitter II but during his time sir I think probably didn't equate to the Sartain in our sense but still tabarak on mr.

Arky ism with the same word with the same name if you like or the same noun we will hope to ensure life we can maybe complete this within two hours as well of our time tomorrow can tell you know maybe essien following the share in his footsteps by doing so obviously he'd probably be thinking what the hell if he found out he going over his book he'd probably be like anyway so any question for we now I don't mean so I'll I'll

leave them coffee no no right okay J it lets him lock pin anybody know anything about him I know doc knows something about him yeah Toby banana Gohan what do you know anything you know about good Muslim guy

he's a good guy he's one of the good guys I got almost a bit concerned when he said he wrote off a luminous prolific writer I almost got concerned we've heard some of your gerra in the past but okay so everyone rockin now he is Omer this is his name even I leave ahmed al ansari a chef i as you can see we are obviously trying to bring to life the literature of all of the heritage of islam not just the school of medina for anybody that

gets curious now why do they only stick to Maliki texts it's just usually because they're just so awesome but but sometimes we try to include everybody and give you know no anybody feeling left out so this is a an awesome text as well brief text but by this shaffer a scholar if normal Achtung goes by the lock up or went by the laptop say Roger Dean is Cunha Abu Hafs even and now he is also known as even an owwie but he's popular as alma locked in or even on Malakand the reason he actually had this name is that when his father

had died he and his and his mother remarried he was brought up by somebody who was known as Alma locked in and whether that was because of his profession or not I'm locking if somebody that does give instruction as in teaches it could be teaching and things like this but he became known as even on locking through his stepfather and he was from the great ulema of hadith and fake and Terri her Rachel legendary scholar of hadith Oslo home in Adeem ash bill and Alice so his acyl although he wasn't from

al-andalus but he's a region they you know they say he was of an under Lucy origin although he was born and passes away in al-qahirah in Cairo okay they say he authored almost or around three hundred texts upon Allah we you know we hardly get the time to I don't know if we could ever read as many texts in our life let alone both of them anyway some of his texts his major works equalities

evil Kemal es Maharaja a tooth care of he also for liudmila hadith la alarm before I do metal a cam that's a commentary a Bharatiya Pema I refer to my hubby who at the sort of minute a smile and Serb that's a more linguistic work very book a table a disease a book explaining some of the the slightly more difficult words within the Quran a totally Cheryl Jeremy I saw he his commentary on Sahil Bihari which has already been alluded

by Abby Bona Abu Abu Musa all right rivalry going on between Abu Musa Musa Musa okay Raja little mattered a little mean Hajj that's his commentary upon Adam in Hajj of no we obviously you can see sheriff ie contribution which we don't hold against him al-shara ulema vaca film in Hajj his turbo cotton oh yeah his book which is in print well mechanical hadith which is also in print he says is that this he he kind of summarized the text we're going through

now we will be going through he summarized from his mock nap he says he has a book called hiatus Orpheus I see her soul Salim and that's always an interesting topic what was specific to the professor Allison there is actually a huge scope for discussion and debate on what was actually specific to the professor are cinema what was general there some matters are discussed and debated topic author Cora a lot your mother have feet Ibaka tell mother hip sure osawa in the Muslim al al bukhari hadith a book the book those are Hadley the commentary of those

a hadith which Muslim has kind of increased upon Bihari in okay sure her al Fiat even American grammatical text now this book of his is is a very brief book they say traditionally can attack a fee are by Malala dirt in just sorry or by water hot just in four simple pages really reaches people through a mother B script showing that that's where it may have taken off really in the mother if it was in the burn homage of her word yashi

what yeah she is famous call from a word yes but the the books in which people right let's say things like the ijazat or they right things like this is you know my my collection of SME then ijazat and stuff like this different people have had different names for them of the time so some people quite popularly call them they will call them things like let's say thught and that's one name for them that you still see around today the thought of some of somebody under Lucy's used to

have a term called burn homage which contrary to maybe those who don't know then you see because borrow na me today is used in Arabic to mean a program and I must say traditionally I actually am interested like many years ago before learning this I thought Boren homage was and I Reba sized word that wasn't actually Arabic but it was taken from I thought it was more of a contemporary word that was taken from like program like the Cobra homage or / homage program or whatever this is what I

thought until I had a while back come to learn that that was actually what the Andalusia mused to use and we're talking like 700 years ago 800 years ago when they were writing their collections for ijazat and stuff like this anyway so so that's this book does have a commentary for those who seek it by Allah Muhammad SAW how we I'm sure maybe others have common have commentate you know as well but so how is is known as a told a little caret abnormal opt-in fee Elmen I

thought okay if anybody's interested now bismillah r-rahman r-rahim wa salaam a la mulana muhammadin wa ala ali was our pious element as lehman right he begins with the hotbar mentions : imam Scheffel Islam Cheryl Islam is not you know I mean many people were given that title by people it's not a

specific to any although anyone's color or so although it may have become a bit more popular with certain people at a later stage so he begins by saying Allahu Ahad alana marie he well ash guru who either allah he well suddenly Allah Ashraf will help Muhammad alayhi wasallam about so he begins by saying for hadith kiloton via alumina hadith after doing his hot bath now obviously we know from the hadith cool of the Emery in any matter that has some importance or significance if you do not begin it with bismillah

r-rahman r-rahim in other words by praising Allah power up top then it is something which is removed or cut or deprived from Rama and blessings okay so this is a test Qadhafi alumina hadith she's gettin a bloody hell move today at the beginner can be give away at us or be held at monta he Ekta Bob to Hermann L McNair he says I've taken it from the mcniel okay which I've mentioned before what a leafy that his book while Allah Arab whenever I be her the in Jabir D he will called Ali exam who Salathe

so he's saying that the hadith are really as far as we're concerned of three categories sahi Hanwha hassanein what life force ahia masala maminta envy is naadi do you have this text in front of you know masala maminta envy is naadi vomit any woman who'll mustafa ali mohammad sheikh hani feyza Hema okay says mass Salima what is sound from ton fils nadi he one matinee and from

you get from this category you get the category known as mata fakkin alley which is what does al-amin yeah I means they agreed upon which other the books the Hadees from the sahi hang from both of them as in the hadith which both of them have agreed upon so what's this definition again my Selim I mean the mean tightening fee is not even mutiny that which is sound from any harm or any criticism in its chain and in its

content but what what has he not actually elaborated on here what what what so what else is a condition for side he's summarized it to such extent that one that it's not actually it's quite a strange you know definition that it hasn't covered some key conditions it disa yes so exactly so I mean he's done not the should lose angle I suppose his implicit but really what were the five conditions was ah hey we did last lesson

it is all a sonnet bob of the narrator the precision okay but what else with the narrator yeah okay so the idle to just nurse the property of the narrator the righteousness then the asthma in Arabic shows the oddities and the last one yeah Noel and no defects so these

are the five what is the side what's the the poem ovolo Asahi Mohammed tussle is not who LM each other oh you are here we had known Bob autonomously he Muhammad on fear Bob t he were not Lee he so that's in a poem form but it says that the sahi what is it the solar sonnet there is no Eleanor Shizu and it is transmitted by people who are just and precise five

conditions to be fair the rest he starts to become reasonably comprehensive in their definitions the sahi for some reason he didn't give it a comprehensive definition aiya but never the important thing is that we know what are these al-hassan okay tell

me about Hasan anything okay so it's something that's a way of looking at it that's saying it's a weakness the other way of looking at it is that we're not saying there's a weakness in it but that it lacks the strength I mean it may be just the same thing but I'm just saying this there's another way of looking at

it that it's still good but it hasn't reached the level of Sahar where it should reach so they say that the narrators may have lacked may not be as precise as the sahih narrator so they're slightly weaker in the they're not weak this is what I'm saying maybe that's not the best way they're not as strong or as precise as you know for it to be totally solid Roxxon but at the same time they're not necessarily not weak either so okay he says mechanics Naidu who do

not will fill if they will expand what the is not the chain is weaker than the sigh or less he says less than the sahi in terms of its memory Internet of its memorization and its perfection and then he says he says that basically the sahi category does cover this meaning that these happy but it goes beyond so it's like it's got all the conditions of the sigh but the sahi has all of these conditions but the

sigh is more imprecision that's what it's that's what he's trying to say ok then he moves on to life mana mana wife what does life mean week oh yeah with the Arabic life right week something that is quick right give me a definition what are we talking about in hadith

sense what is the ok good good what you're saying is it's got a problem in it it's it doesn't meet the conditions of Sahad it doesn't some people he's actually said here Malaysia were hidden minima what is not one of the above to

you well on where I was there either I let the money he says and then this up to even eighty different categories of life I mean what is about to go into what it means is there's different ways of it being by if they they could be as Mahad just quickly said memory loss amnesia there could be other things you know they could and will go through certain things that could be you'll see some people lost their memory like you said some people lost their books in this day and age I suppose some people lost a hard drive that's truck or the USB the

phone got stolen it's so so anyway right so that could mean that damn they goes there because people in the past were transmitting from books as well they weren't just all walking around like just Don's pure tons of you know like they when they're transmitting hadith they were writing them down keeping them at home as well so they had like books and books of this is what I transmit then all of a sudden somebody might have come in you know stole their books or they might have lost their books or the house burnt down and then all of a sudden this person who was doing it before now

unfortunately is struggling so this is why and we'll take a look at those people anyway life is anything that isn't sahi or hassan and as how does the cycle break Aeneas a cool uma and roots bottle Hassan Castle for what the ievo our salmon castle rock salmon who thought that he says and anything which drops below the root ball Hassan is life and it is many a category involved in that okay now I'm Alma sneaked almost net whoa home a total asana do huallin

abyssal Ollie cinema right okay what what is most not mean we covered this in the previous lesson most not in this Stella all Overton okay okay yeah I mean

because really it's Allison and it's just saying a hadith whose the chain of which is connected back to Professor Larson some people have then debated that is can you call a life hadith a Muslim generally many people have as well so from you even see why later about how can my decima be he so I have a number they with the exception some people like I'll hack him and even hide your seem to say no the muslin should really be something which is sound many other

people have said well the chain is connected even though the chain is weak I suppose that's a debate that I mean is it still connected if it's weak because in essence those links don't exist but I mean at face value it's a connected chain as opposed to a missing link in it of an obvious missing link okay right well mato SIL Muhammad Allah is not whom are four and can oma often weigh some muscle and aid on what they do who are muscle so muta SIL is a connected chain

even if even if it goes up to the prof Salalah Sonam or whether it stops at the Sahabi but it is still the chain is connected the chain isn't interrupted okay now okay now a little more for what summer for yep something that goes to the processor al-islam so the same now who defy Elena be Salah I live cinema ha

certain motifs ill Encana Oh error that something which is connected back to the professor Allison chain goes back so if we let's say we're quoting a hadith yeah now he isn't had a hadith now if we say from Malik and even she have answered him an Abdullah and Allah obviously Abdullah here being at the life normal from our duel armor from Omar from The Messenger of Allah so Allah solemn that he said such and such and such that is

yeah so that would be you see a moose nut is a broad generic term meaning that that is actually connected it's going back it is mucosal that it is actually so this is why sometimes some of these terms there's a huge overlap in them there's nothing really you know sometimes significantly different usually it's going back to the prof Salalah silom the most nervous bummer for is when they're saying you see usually you'll see this term a lot more

used because when they say something is it depends on the angle that they're coming from when people say this is more for they usually are saying that for a reason methought means it's going back to proselyte so now if I say that same chain from Malik from it wasn't nothing but from even if you have from Serling from Abdullah from Omar and I stopped thee right okay the chain is still mutters a little a connected chain but it's not going back to the processor al-islam it's not more for when people

say oh and this has been transmitted myrfor and this has been transmitted myrfor and what are they trying to say from the Prophet Elisha why do you think they might say like that no if I say this and it's coming a hadith what cut what other feel hadith in myrfor I'm okay but why why do you think yeah you're right but why do you think people

might be writing like that in some texts they're saying oh and this comes in a hadith murph one or and and here it has been transmitted more for and exactly because some people some way have posited the question that this is it goes back to the Sahabi it doesn't go back to Prophet as even awesome Andalusia there has spoken the thing is when somebody says it like that like oh this has been transmitted motherfu and they're coming at it from an angle that they already anticipating

that some people are you're gonna probably question this assuming that I'm talking about a you know like ammo free wire but it's actually transmitted more for and as well because usually that hadith may have many variations which are more poof which are not multiple and they may be more popular even so this is why it's so it's the angle that people are coming from when somebody says it's muffle it doesn't necessarily mean that they're debating it saw here the hoping it sorry but usually when they're coming at you with oh this is more foo it's usually another question that they're trying to deal with that you might be

have an expectation that all that smoke off and they say no no this is actually transmitted more flan okay so now I'm no I suppose I suppose but I mean generally the assumption would be see when the opposite of the matos the mont cotta is the motto sill which is what we already said the chain being connected you see in that from that perspective a person would be

arguing about the chain like somebody's trying to argue the sayha of it so if somebody said were you reading in a text oh but that's that's marketed that text is I mean that hadith is meant kotti a person might respond by saying no it's actually transmitted motifs Ellen in this book he wouldn't respond by saying is transmitted Morpho on because that's not the answer to that question like that's always dealing with an entirely different question could a hadith technically a hadith that is more folk means it's being transmitted back to prophet so technically it could be monk

Otte that they could be look much before so let's say Imam Malik is transmitting but Imam like missus and we're gonna see our mother lives and stuff ladies where a person is missing earlier on in the chain but I'm quoting the rest of the chain correctly and I'm taking it back to the prophecy awesome so it is still more full but being more full doesn't necessitate you being sorry okay so it's more about what's your point in saying it so when somebody says oh this is this is Mongkut they attacking the chain so you would probably or the person would respond by saying oh but it's also a mother cell in this book it's connected in this book I mean you wouldn't respond

by saying it's Marta for in that book because that's not the it doesn't make much sense okay mo goof well we've done kind of more koop so what is more cool yep right now the interesting thing he says let's read his definition wahoo Lamar we you and his Sahaba to read one Allah I am Olin of Valen owned a home with us alone can Oman Qatar and where you stamina fear hating him pay hidden for you all were fit for learning Allah I bought methyl and one aqua okay now is interest so basically a mo goof

is a hadith more an earther that just goes back to the Sahabi it can be in his actions it can be in his statement it can be him saying something I'm doing something now the example is let's say they had the statement of Sigma Omar Fatah who table anta pseudo right what is the pseudo mean like from CA de so so

before you become a root like say it a leader so take knowledge before you reach that status now when you look at that moku that's an example that's from our model there's many statements from a more rowdy law and that then because they statements they're going to be more proof now it can have two angles to it okay it can be more goof but we're giving it hook more Rafa okay and now coke but we're not giving it hook more Rafa what do I mean by hookman

Rafa exactly now right now the thing is that this could be that assumption why are we having that assumption it could be that he begins by saying oh we used to do this in the time of the Prophet so although he hasn't said that the Prophet said this but there's an assumption you've made a leap this right that there's an assumption it could be that

he says that we used to be commanded to do this but he didn't say who commanded him we used to be forbidden from doing such and such but he doesn't say who is talking about or he says the Sunnah was such and such is it because Sunnah could also mean that the linguistics like it doesn't have to mean you know because at the end of the day yeah they were Arabs I mean they did used to speak and this was the day language remember for them you got

to remember as well for them these words were not like just for us technical words only you for when we're talking about Islamic rulings they had these words in everyday language as well well he could lay a calming SunNet on what imam wah as the poet says but the thing is so they had this it could be when they say and the son now was such answers so know who son of your people son of your tribe son of you son of the Prophet what are you talking about the assumption many will give is that it's the Sunnah of the Prophet

yet this is also one of the things that that people say well how else could he have known this unless he took it from the prophet Elijah all of these are things which are more off-hook more rougher but remember it's not categorical it can be challenged so a clear example give me a clear example that is challenged that was the one that he says he says Oh Myrna now that we

were commanded to do this that we used to place our hand above the other hand now then even the raw we says that I believe that they says he's think the actual wording is he says Lara for Allah and ulama VALIC alumna B he says I believe he intended by that the Prophet

how does that add strength to a statement so it's obvious so the person is saying I believe that he intended by a statement we were commanded I believe that we were that he was that we were commanded that I believe that he intended by that statement the Prophet so add strength that okay so this is a more full statement how wobble more cobble and in the opposing direction how

does he add weakness to it true it could have been any but that's the question but why does he add more why is there more of a question mark but now that he's actually said it I don't I believe that he would have meant by that yeah but this this is one of the later are we so it's not the first row is the other one saying I believe that he would have been meaningless in line Yuma I believe that that is intended with the Prophet

exactly and he's so early on so if he is saying that they are if la jeune ma that that is and he's using this a little much rule the term that is yeah like an unknown term like I believe that that's being taken back then to the prophet and he's so early on that would mean that when people use such words they don't always talk about the Prophet man otherwise why would he have to say that so even even Hodja says in that thing that this one statement of his kind of

almost put water on the whole thing really because it if it wasn't for that this area would have been sound as he may be still sound bites chain but is it a Marwari wire he says that this statement kind of jeopardized the conclusive 'ti of the statement of this hadith and that's in body anyway so moving away that's in argument whether pubs or saddle or river but coming back to here well mocked or warm up oof a letter very Poland or Fairland

now the mock to the thing is sometimes they say the mantra there is a bit more of an elaborate a generic term which I think he'll in a he is gonna cover it next anyway right that is talking about just something else we'll come to in a moment this much thought he's saying when it stops with who with the turbo so he doesn't stop with the Sahabi he stops with the turbo then he is mocked or four will mock talk okay and he can be these things can be colon or

felon what is the purpose of transmitting from the turbo in like that felon like that they used to do this what is the purpose of that exactly and also it is from the principles of the school of Medina it is from the principles of the school of Kufa that they consider also especially medina that they the kufur could the school of Kufa actually disagrees on this but that they considered the actions of the Tabor

in to be a Hodja as well because they believed that their religious type of actions were only taken from the Sahaba who were then taken from the Procellarum it is a debate I know generally that Abu Hanifah did not accept it his famous statement about them that he said home region one an origin and so you know they are men and we are men Allah Ta'ala [Laughter]

they are men and women oh what a statement that's what the mud one that's a Bollywood thing this is but but this that's because Imam Abu Hanifa himself is debated to have been from the tavern whether he is or not this there's huge debate about whether we actually did make that a very list perhaps maybe not all over whichever way you want to see it he definitely didn't in terms of learning whether he did in terms of Baraka or not is another debate that were they he saw as a hobby they all except he never learnt from Assad

because he only began to study at a later age himself but he was still early so in his time many of the turbo in was still in his time so he's kind of so to him that they're still contemporary people and when people are contemporary and they're round then it's all real isn't it it's not it loses sometimes that halo effect because you see the other the real humaneness of the other person so as he said home bridge Ireland when they said to him what about the statement of full on why don't you take it was attaboy he's at home Regina no

Richard was an terraces Cecotto federal Adair a suit says I just because I went quiet he says my adversaries were misled by my silence no I mean it could just be one person I mean there could be multiple people but it's some math hubs

give legitimacy to it like as in they see this as a Hodja within the Sharia surely obviously if you were if this was a cross math herb debate then it wouldn't carry with the other method help and that wouldn't be admissible in that debate them because it doesn't carry weight with them so with Imam Shafi'i and the chef I am a taboo question even the fatwa was a hobby to be a huge area they don't really accept it as a Sharia and they have some very valid points actually on the arguments what they consider is member Beto G they say it's something which is it gives sheds light

and guidance but it's not a conclusive shirai matter and and you can see where they're coming from so whereas the other methods will agree on the photo of the Sahabi being a Hodja for them except the chef Aryan but if you were to be having a discussion or a debate with the chef at a school there wouldn't be any point in bringing the file of the Sahaba I mean you could bring it as Mumbai with touji but there's no point bringing them as isolated evidences because they're not really according to them it doesn't hold that weight so okay Almonte cut there wha-hoo a mile a mere toe cell is not

allow a year--which hint can so what does that mean yeah the hadith is by necessity cut off at some point it is not at all connected there is a missing link in the chain some way right this yet not this year this will be in corner moto SIL is in contrast to Makkah they're so connected moto SIL monocot a broken oh yeah most not I suppose they would see

Muslims is a very generic term when they say something is Muslim back to the professor Alison I suppose in a way they're usually using it to kind of generally Allahu Alem but my understanding is they're trying to kind of show it as in motherfu as well rewire it's not usually the debate is the debate is this is the debate there's some people like like I mentioned al Hakim an even higher and some people they said that Muslims should only be used for terms which for a hadith which are sound so if you said that is a monetary wire that it would carry weight in saying that it's a more

foo and they say but the problem with that is some other people you know didn't agree with that definition so we you know it kind of I suppose because there isn't almost an ik a unanimous understanding but generally that's how they use I suppose even a Hydra obviously it's very popular in his presentation of things now I'm so morsel so what were older berry wine Lamia Kabir on all our soul a solemn women whom afiyah aerosol oh right okay talk

to me people what what's a muscle exactly so muscle is we are salah your salute is send to kind of let something flow to float in a way you just let it go and that's what the tab that he has done needs just let it go direct to the prophet salaallah solemn without mentioning the Sahabi

now sorry it does there's quite a few more our seal is the plural there's quite a few Morrissey right but then it wouldn't be morsel then you just be either monk a day or something you know it's got somebody missing in the chain now let's give you an example call a chef ie of burana Malik he's an opera nama in this s manic even as a gymnast I think what he meant to say is Malik Anjali Minister but anyway Malik even is a demon Islam

I'm sighs I'm your Messiah another soul allah salallahu alayhi wa sallam nah i'm they allow me bill heroin that in this type of transaction of meat was forbidden there was a river involved in if a person kind of had a transaction with is a live animal with meat and so on and this debate around that but anyway this had its I didn't say you'll be saying that the messenger Lhasa a lustrum did this side of him say have never reached the messenger Lhasa Allison side Imam say was obviously a great Tiberi though considered the greatest by you by

a modern humble obviously one of the the seven tons of Medina that were known as the focus of our seven you could say Magnificent Seven babies can think of Jackie Chan's movie so was that lucky seven anyway the lucky seven anyway so the thing is the what they call the fuss about either seven heavyweights heavyweights of Medina and from all of them the top the most heavy weight of

them all was I didn't almost sell you [Laughter] right so the thing is so cider and and he was also I mean he had he he learned from many Sahaba right who he kind of but what was another key feature of his when it's a feature I mean something about his life that gave him great access to hadith he was Abu Hurairah he was the son-in-law of Abu Huraira early lon so you can see that proximity

and that closeness to gain hadith and he's also one of the principal one of like I don't know if it's if we can say like the founding fathers but one of the key people that defines what becomes known as the school of Medina so Imam Malik often follows in like his footsteps he's obviously one of the focus of our anyway the seven you know heavyweights of Medina but this is but he's an intial one that always not always but quite often in my malik is quoting and it's always giving him preference so

that is a hadith is an example now if I'm a surfer he says that we don't accept any morsel rewire to be sorry because there's a person missing the ruling generally is that the morsel can be used either thought it'd be hard it'd be a year we must not an or morsel on min jihad in okra that if there was let's say you had a must net being transmitted and on the other angle you've got a morsel being transmitted

then if it's the same type of incident then this morsel can be used okay if you've got a muslin some waiter back here oh I suppose that may be obvious from some point according to the school of Medina the Maliki school and according to the Hanafi a morsel is a Hodja anyway they accept morsel in fact the chef the Hanafi ago to the extent to rate it in the sulphate box above amos net they go you think you've seen complexity they say you think you know

what confusion is oh wait till you see the stuff we're on surveying they sort of fit books rate a morsel above a movement so everybody is kind of like everybody's really perplexed how do you because they was they trying to say this isn't even acceptable it's gotta say forget acceptable it's above a muslim they general they're not not only do they accept it they accept it above in the assault fit books it may be a matter of debate among somewhere in there

sulfate books they say it's above a yeah there's always a reason honesty and it's not what you might think it's not the it's not the no beef that was going around everybody was just passing a cop around right but this girl one man Fahad go on right so look at this this is so why they say that is here's the logic it's actually quite interesting what they say is that when the turbo ie when

he goes direct to the processor latinum but then he's taken the burden of responsibility for you so you don't need to check it whereas if he gave you the chain like oh the person gives you the full chain then you need to authenticate these other responsibilities on you to verify that the hadeeth asahi but when he just says don't worry about the professor Allison him said so then he's taking the responsibility so now you can just relax and say look what the responsibilities all yours Wow

so that is actually the argument behind it so obviously the Maliki obviously don't agree with them on that point but they agree with them that morsel is acceptable because the Maliki RC from the point that Atterbury is obviously a great person and it's a matter of trust they're not saying it's above amis net obviously they don't make that leap of they lacked a bit of that confidence in going that far but but they said that is still acceptable Imam Shafi he accepts

now he rejects Merisi accept any kind of makes this has this caveat with his which is almost a bit of a contradiction because he says except them are our seal off side enormous Ayub because I had them verified and they were all sound right but the thing is well in a way you see you kind of defeat your principle by saying that because you saying well this person was okay because you had trust in him it's just as Malik knowing those of Medina saying that these people have said it so it's fine so you're either go with trust or you go with objectivity

you can't have it both ways I mean but according to the share a view the lens it wouldn't be a hadith if it's not connected so although it may be points of consideration but it's not huge Ashura and mr.

Cheney's unless it's a Muslim they want a muslin or a wire all according to the Mauna Kea the chain doesn't have to be connected at all like that but he has to but according to the Maliki method they do say I mean I think they slightly exaggerated the point of the turban saying that his thing is a Hodja they do say in the assault books

although how truly they mean that Allahu Alem but I mean they do say in the schoolbooks that his thing is a Hodja so it doesn't have to be in like a democratic thing like with numbers it can be what at the very least it's a precedent it's a legal precedent within the Sharia exactly for somebody to build on it and to use it right now okay here's another point what is that hmm let's say this asabi let's say this many

sob of whom perhaps did not hear all that I hadith from the Prophet Allison is that true yeah there's many there's going to be many Sahaba who learnt things through other Sahaba is that not true so when they say the proselytism said this but they probably never heard it directly either it so why is that not a morsel because I sahabi is still missing

true we wouldn't know but let's say we do know let's let's impose the hypothetical question because we know it would have occurred just through our logical understanding it would have been necessary for it to have occurred why then how do we bypass that dilemma but let's say for example of a Herrera all day long on his transmitting something but we know he came to the processor al-salam in the year 7 Haiti but he might be talking about an incident a bit

before so we know he may have heard this from someone but he's not saying who in that hadith this isn't still grouped as a morsel why the Sahaba have a category called that a Sahaba to kulu-manali the Sahaba are by the by the category all certified as just that Allah says in the Quran when addressing those who are the Companions of the Prophet wrote the allahu anhum wa radu on if allah is

pleased with them then who is anybody that comes after so they have the seal of approval from Allah main focus of I sama what from the heavens above I don't use above in a literal sense they're just for the from the heavens above they have the a seal of approval therefore we don't need to approve that even if a Sahabi is transmitting from a Sahabi that's missing it's still asahi and i'm considered a must net rewire so tell me

what was what question this is big I went to even see that's the standard I'm raising you guys to you that not only do I want you to guess the other way to guess the next question that's coming up but I mean going back to our morsel what question does this beg well we've just now Lent begs a question

[Music] right but what's the question the question raised there's the question that you're on it so what's the seat what's the question is it you're giving the answer to the question that should be coming you're thinking two steps ahead I'm training you to well I need you tone you down slightly okay this

thing begs the question which is math exactly so what's our problem with Morrison so what's your problem with Musel all right so what is the problem because if we're saying the sahaba column module and so I even miss a transmitting from the professor item so what if the Sahabi is dropped but the sahaba will duel anyway so what is the problem now the response okay but but let's say the Sahabi in the chain is missing because this turbo doesn't reach the profit so the Saab is missing but the problem doesn't matter which Sahabi

it was because sahaba will accept it anyway so what's the problem with accepting a chain with the sahabis missing no no that has happened in many cases the companions have heard from other companions so come on bat that's obvious obviously we're they living around the Profi then not all of them are there all the time and something's going on that that has occurred many a times that has occurred but the thing is coming back to

the morsel this question here now but there is a problem because we don't because Marcel hadith isn't considered by the Mossad they seem to be sorry it's not so why is it not Muslim why is it not connecting when we doesn't matter who like we could put any Sahabi name in there they all duel so what's the problem with the Sahaba expand what do

you play Marco Polo Marco I think what you may be saying for his right I think

what you may be saying is how do we know that he is actually transmitting from asabi what if he's transmitting from another tab for white it could be that he's heard from another tab a you heard from a Sahabi it's not necessary that he he's not saying by the way I heard this from his argument it's not mentioning his name it could be that he heard it from his contemporary somebody studying with him so because of that we don't have that certainty where the sahabi was in the time of the

Prophet so even if it was from another person it was from a person with the Prophet so it was a Sahabi so it bypasses that point ok so that's that was the question that was coming next the answer to which doc had already told just the question us wasn't too sure on where he provided the answer ok so right now WOM al model write the model is wasa coterminous Nadi if non-factor was salmon cutter and a Don Facundo model in

Qatar relax so what is the matter for those of you who understand Arabic yeah so it's it's it's basically broken its moon cut there but it's as a strong it's more strongly broken as in there's at least two links in the chain missing okay so if abu musa al Masri here was for example transmitting here we unabie

he but there were two people missing in the chain like let's say so the thing is no so you've got like not just one plate and they don't have to be in the same place by the way they don't have to be two people contacted they could be separate they could be together they could so that does happen does it have to stop at two what if there's three people missing would we still call him and he says factor factor yep so so among clutter hadith is what by

definition month a monk got a a broken chain monke kata is li is broken it fits on the least of its definition which is at least one link broken in the chain that's because the definition the word Mongkut it means broken by the very least of his definition he has to be broken in one place correct right so it could include more but by the very least it is usually just broken in one place a model is something that is broken in at

least two places he's not saying but he isn't mentioned here so that's it so but a morsel is not necessarily model it doesn't mean two people are missing yeah so model is something that is two people are missing okay so as an example let me give an example Imam Malik says in the motto Bulava jnana by Herrera has reached me below Vani reached me it has reached me Paulo these are known as the

ballarat not the blog the blog got the blood of imam malik so the Bala hurt of Imam Malik all the things that he says have reached me in that where he says he's reached me my mother goes straight to the prophecy I'll swim sometimes so it doesn't so it's in fact quite often when he's saying he's reached me saying reach me from the Prophet which reach me from this person so that's my Malik says that's rich he goes what's your reach forget that

it means the Kitab oh I mean my Malik's Hezbollah honey and look Manila Hakim he's reached me from Lokmanya Hakim what's your reach that's what I call network of reach so the thing is Bala that so Imam Malik says has reached me from Abu Huraira that the professionalism said little mum look the MOOC is suitable Marouf that a servant has his rights in food and clothing and so on but this hadith is model there's at least two people at least how do we know these two people missing in that train exactly could be

more but by the very least is two so from imam malik from a Sahabi they have to be - it has to be mother okay now in other than the Moto e Malik if this hadith is actually connected that it's from Malik from Mohammed even H learned from his father from Abu Hurairah okay so these are hadith do you end up being connected in other nations a look what is the suspended excellent my luck is warm I heard if I'm in Moop today is Nadi he well I hadn't factored

anything that has from the beginning of its chain it has one or more missing usually usually my luck is with just usually it's like there's no chain to it it's just a hadith it so he just says and we're before what are the popular model apart not the poetry model apart of Maharis so in Mambo Hari whenever he begins a chapter he has several a hadith just as as almost as like subheadings she says okay chapter of for example will do is like this and then you just

have a saying of let's say if not per se in the Prophet in this this this and then the hadith begin so these one or two that he begins that he puts in the beginning are known as mullah but they just suspended there's no chain to them so I mean how are you supposed to know whether they saw he or not that's the thing now the actual definition he gives you what if I'm a mob today is Nadi why hidden factor from the beginning of the chain one or more are missing but popularly when they found usually they just entirely

suspended but that's what he gives [Music] okay well none right wah-wah at a fee he beloved at a I'm care for learning unfallen in one with docile in Lamia Kunta the lease on one canal oh now I'm talk to me people

[Music] it is connected talk and means what in Arabic from from yeah like on the authority like this purse from this person from this person one who I'm home from him like that so when you're transmitting something say oh I'm I heard it from like that yes so we're gonna come to that now so when you see a chain most a hadith are probably transmitted or many let's say many a hadith are transmitted like this I'm fallin I'm fallin I'm fallin I'm fallin Annan abyssal autism what is the

problem with mana and that's why it's good by the way okay you can practice it man okay so what is the problem with my online what's the sorry what's the potential for problem with mana that's the problem how do you know that the person isn't blogging slightly oh all he

isn't missing people up because when he's is he lying like if now if Mars said you know doc said something and I just say doc said this leave him out have a light I haven't lied I'm saying the truth but I've just decided to leave a person in between out of the you know out of the chain of transmission why might people want to do that

elevate their own and also more importantly elevate the chain and the hadith because it might be that I will learn at friend heal Missouri falls short on some of the some of the conditions God will be hit right of some of the conditions of property or something so if I was to go direct but the problem is I haven't heard this direct but if I was to just leave him I haven't lied but I've gone direct to the source quoting him implying to the

listener that I have heard it from him but I'm just going on and on so but generally mana and the perception what is the common you know when you look at it the common understanding is it Matos ill-omen kata it is not the self it is connected generally by perception unless you have fear of third lease now this is that lease whoa macaroon obviously something which you shouldn't be letting know who you him on the car well Maiasaura be holy a colorful and waffle fish you

uh-huh now okay so he's just given that the definition of it here the thing is the least actually comes from the word to cover something up dallisa that you kind of like you're putting you're trying to make something I don't know trying to cover up on camouflage some reflect a defect that is present now

when you first learn about it you might think what the hell is that even allowed like is that how can you do because it sounds like obviously this there's ulterior motives oh it sounds like but yet there have been some very big Don had Athene and scholars and people of new transmit have been from the model listen any coming to your mind no they say about sophiana thorry used to do it at least and a few I mean there's like so many this books written on model II scene but the thing is that the lease is of two

categories generally I mean it might be of more sorry it's broadly speaking that's eveness allah says so they're saying he's trying to imply to the lease

but i think some people have questioned that has he missed amount or not all but this but you're right but he the Imam Hari if he is doing that he's doing a sly an ultra sly one in the sense that you know like he's saying this person said without even saying from him in the normal way like he's his beginning by saying colorful an hadith and I had that an address and on him on him from him from him from him that and that hadith is obviously the one on music now and that's because that is the only soundest and the reason why he may have done that he's perhaps he wanted to demonstrate the impermissible t of music and that was probably the only one he could find

as strong enough to squeeze into the sahi because he had tight rules for his ID but the problem was he was hearing it from somebody who was maybe not so he does a but isn't that quite sneaky it sounds totally different it is to the lease and the word dodgy are like but the thing is that is it to the lease jeopardizes a chain because this is why if a person is known like if he's from the model listen or they've got now they've got databases in books of who the motherless because they were caught out so the

model dc9 books and known as model ici so if a model lease even though he may be a price person transmit something as a man I'm fallin I'm fallin it straight away Atika okay I stand corrected Leila's corrected me right it's there's two categories of the lease of a chatty