Debate Review - Shaykh Asrar Rashid V Qadiani - Accomplishments? & Aftermath?

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Y Allah keep you blessed. May he keep you enveloped in his love and grace. You know, there's many of you aware of this debate that has taken place online, but many clips forwarded to me and socials have been bombarded or momentarily hijacked with these cutouts and edits and yeah, what do we gain from these debates?

You know, for years, many people, including me, I've highlighted that there's nothing to gain from these debates. Nothing. At best, if you want to have a dialogue with someone, have a dialogue. Sure, you know, it's always great to talk. It's great to converse, to exchange thoughts and ideas.

Um that said there is nothing um right so there is nothing to gain from these debates. Imam Malik was once asked by the caiff that I want you to debate you know these people I want you to debate Abu Ysef Ali Abu Ysef of the esteemed Anafia this and [clears throat] Imam Malik said what do you think this

is and sometimes you see Abu Ysef would accompany Harun Rashid on the Hajj on some is naturally is the can one visit the holy lands without visiting the blessed and sacred land of Medina. You know, may Allah bless our messenger and through him bless us.

sallallahu alaihi wasallam and to the school of Medina the Maliki Madha Medina is the greatest spot and most virtuous on earth more blessed than Makkah itself that's been the view of the school of Medina of Imam Malik of the Malikis us we've always believed that now when Haruna Rashid would come to Medina he often going to accompany, you know, bring Abu Ysef Al Kadi and he tried to get him to, you know, to rage bait or to [laughter]

to to entangle Imam Malik in a debate. Sometimes they had a few exchanges, but I Malik didn't really like that. Sometimes you get pulled into them, you see. But so there's a couple of times when he made some comments like huh the Abu Ysef Ali made some exchanges that oh the people of Medina don't even know the adan [laughter] and Imam Malik said to him that this adan that we have because the adan of

the people of Medina was slightly different to the adan of the Iraq It's all fine. It was all taught by the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam. But the one in Medina is the one we cling to. The Medina is Medina you know and this is where the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam lived and was buried. And this is where as Immalik said in response, he said, "Look, all I know is the children on mass in the thousands have taken from their fathers, who have taken from the companions of the prophet who heard the adan day and night, five times a day in

this blessed city." He said, he said, "Maybe there's an adan the prophet gave one day when he traveled or the companions traveled to Iraq, but that's not the adan of the people of Medina." And so sometimes he would get embroiled, you know, Abu Ysef would pull him into some of these debates and and he would do these gotcha moments on Imam Malik.

So this one time he he starts like I said about the adan and sometimes because on several years he did come to Medina. On one occasion he tried to say about the measurements you know that you know back in the days they had uh in the Islamic days they had their own measurements. So they had these things known as mud and a mud was approximately the you know if you two handspans together the the quantity that you would get that kind of a bowl scale was known as a mud and then four of these or some people say five was known as a now the

prophet would do wudoo from a mud. Now that gives you an idea how much water or how little the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam used to use. Now the mud then appears in several measurements of that when you give in charity or when you do this or how much grain or how you know these kind of things. Um a mud is a scale that is then used and they debated it. So it's a bit like you know there was some differences between the Iraqi mud and the hijazi mud.

So on one occasion, Abusef tried to say, well um um what is going on here? Right people uh please refrain from any I don't know what discussions are going on in there but whatever it is yeah don't pay attention right so our Ysef on one occasion tried to say to

Imam Malik oh you don't even know the people of Medina don't even know what a mud is they get the measurement wrong so I im Malik told the people around him in the masid, go home and bring your mud. Go home each one of you there. Let's say there was about 15 20 people sitting around him. He said, "I want you all to go home. Bring a mut." So they brought their scale. He said, "Who did you inherit that from?" He said, "My father." So who did he get it from?

His father. Who was he? You know this turb. This great turb you lived in Medina. Who did you get it from? My great-grandfather. Who was he? This sahhabi. Who did you get it from? My grandfather. Who was he? This sahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahabi who my great-grandfather this sahhabi Imam Malik looked at Abu Ysef and he said the defense rests there's no there's nothing to debate here and when Harun Rashid tried to provoke him he said that this is not is not like that you get some animals to fight each

other you know people do dog fighting, they do these other. You get, you know, sometimes people think, oh, [laughter] you think, oh, you know, what if we got four wolves and one tiger and what would it be like? You know, these kind of things intrigue humans. This is not ilm is not like that. And and all it leads to is often [clears throat] and you know on one occasion [snorts] somebody came to Imam Malik and he said that he said I want you to debate me

and Imam Malik said well what what's to come of that like first Imam Malik said I'm not interested he said no you must said quiet. The guy said, "Well, you claim to be on the huck, don't you?" Imam Malik said that I do. He said, "Well, okay, debate me." And Imam Malik said, "Well, what would that prove?" He said, "Well, that would prove if you beat me, you're on the huck.

If I beat you, I'm on the huck." Imam Malik said, "Okay, so let's say in this debate you beat me, then you're on the huck." And then somebody comes and beats you, then he's on the huck. And he said, "Is what ignorance is this? Is this how the huck works that you beat each other in a match and whoever keeps winning, the huck keeps jumping?" See, these were men with wisdom.

You know, they spent and dedicated their lifetimes to this of and this and I get it that a dialogue has its place. Dialogues are fine but the challenge look we have to let's be fair let's object imagine for a moment like we remove our as many biases as possible we have damaged this thing Allah travesty

we yeah Allah You know how will we how will a person face Allah and his messenger we have embarrassed humiliated this theme many you know years ago I had said that many of these people pushing these opinions within a decade they'll start changing people pushed so hard ridiculously and abusively towards our

dean. This age of Aisha as being a little girl, they push that with a kind of bravado, an [clears throat] unapologetic bravado, trying to force upon telling Muslims that you can't question this. This is in Bkari

telling people our beloved prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam married a little girl. Nothing [clears throat] but blasphemy, arrogance, stupidity and lies against our prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam. Do not marry a little girl. All of the research shows Aisha was anything between 17 to 20 when she married the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam. the other hadith in Bkari, the all the all of them, the age of her sister, the you look at even her own incident about when uh verses were revealed about those people who placed

her amongst the first to be born in Islam that uh sorry those people who placed her as when Islam came the first to embrace Islam not to be born but the first who embraced Islam right now even her the re the the breaking of her previous engagement. Why? Because the the to be mother-in-law feared she would convert their son.

What would a four-year-old convert your son? Yet with unapologetic bravado and ego people threw the honor of our prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam under the bus. Now look at reform UK. Look at all this Islamophobic right-wing.

It's the first thing they keep trying to push in the face of Muslims. And it's not even true. These people claim to love the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam. They wouldn't push that about their dad or their granddad. Even if they believed it to be true, they wouldn't push it. Yet they, you know, unabashedly just like they unapologetically allowed, not only allowed, they pushed and pushed this about the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam.

And now some of them want to change their mind. Now they feel oh well there's a difference of opinion you know when you had no absolute disregard for the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam what did the sayith talk to people in a way that is in accordance with their intellect do you wish that Allah and his messenger are denied.

Is that not a so what what does this achieve? Nothing. This debate between Asar and thisi. It just adds piles on to the travesty and tragedy of Islam.

I want to say before anything that look she has now many of you may be aware that many almost a decade ago eight years ago I had a what I attempted to have a dialogue. It was like a back and forth with Shehar on a very similar topic on the topic of Jesus and the second coming. That was eight years ago.

But since then, me and Shehar Sab have spoken on a number of occasions. We've had very good relations. You know, we've had very good kind of a bond. Uh I have a lot of respect for Sheh Ass. And I feel some of the things he's been doing some of them have seemed like I don't know maybe people around him are pushing them towards them but some of the things I have the utmost respect for

he for example this the encouraging the study of Arabi he called over some she and did a whole circle tried to embibe this this knowledge of Arabi with a tradition. I loved that. Uh I was invited to it. I couldn't make it at that time but I had other commitments but the uh we had in the UK and in Birmingham especially we had which is still we see the effects of it a bin strikes and um local issues.

Shehazar rose to the forefront and he went around himself collecting rubbish mobilizing the local people. I salute him for that. May Allah bless him abundantly for that. So that's true character. No in that there was no ego. There's no, you know, that action going around leading people that we as Muslims need to be ambassadors of cleanliness.

Our areas, some Muslim areas are filthy, embarrassing, humiliating. You know, some of these areas, beautiful people living there. Sparkbrook, beautiful people. She Asar lives around there. You know, many amazing people. I, you know, run owned a restaurant in that area. The amazing people, but the areas humiliating rubbish, the the litter, people just fly tipping, chucking everything.

Sheh Assad led with character there. I salute him and I encourage. I tried to actually ask my local masid at the time. Very disappointed in them. They were a big masid local here in Washed. I asked through a friend of mine that I will do it. We will go around allow your car park where people can bring the black bags and I will get my friends to do it.

I will get people we will do it. Uh help you know you arrange it with the local. We have a recycling center not far from us. No, they weren't interested. Only interested when their political party labor at the time, which is nothing but traitors to the Muslims and many Britons, right? Only interested to do a stunt, not interested in and shame on them.

Shame on all the other people that backed out. But so credit where credit is due. There was sheh Asar that exposed the ch of right now. I in sentiment agree with Shikh Assad for exposing that kind of and I admire you know his even though I feel that it was difficult for him to prove from his brilli position that kind of an an attack against Chuf because the brilli

thing is riddled with all of this but I admire for doing uh it took courage to speak out against other brilliage that so that look credit where credit is due and you know and and along the way there's been other times where sometimes people have called upon um Muslims And Shehar has been one of those voices that

has stood up and uh responded. I think in the political thing he got somewhat involved or tried to help some people at some point. You know, all of these things are very admirable. I've heard, you know, Shehar dedicates his um many days of his week to teaching uh here in Birmingham.

admire that look but this thing here what is the need to do these debates this was a travesty and a tragedy sheh you know this this debate with the kadani it was firstly there's no reason for us to be having a debate with kadanis kadanis look let's just pause this for a moment I was chatting to my mate me and Alama fama nav right so I I said you know it's shocking

that in our lifetimes kadanis have been given a seat at at the heavyweight table the heavyweight league kadanis sitting at this table you know what the h what on >> [clears throat] >> Who could have envvisaged an era where these, you know, these little boys would sit at the big men table at where real men sit.

And this has been done by two people mainly. one uh brother Adnan Rashid who had a debate with in Canada with um the Kadanis very big mistake why in that debate they embarrassed him it was on the second coming of Jesus now okay in all fairness he Adnan Rashid did a follow-up debate where he brought on um that uh what's his name MTRS and they had some and he

did fairly well in that debate or that was like an online thing uh with the Kadanis but the first one he went in very confidently humiliated like whether I mean I don't know I don't think he realized what hit him but then I guess with brother Nan he's going to say well I'm not a scholar of Islam and so that's, you know, his well his kind of get out card.

Well, he's going to say, well, you know, ultimately I'm not a scholar of Islam. I'm more somebody deals with comparative uh faith and I deal with history. And in fairness, when he came to speak about the Miraadyani himself, he humiliated the Kadanis. So, in that one, he did well. He humiliated them. And but what was the purpose of this whole engagement?

The first thing on which they he he suffered a defeat was the same topic that she went in to get humiliated on. Look, why are you debating the discussion of Jesus with Kadanis? What do they have to do with the discussion of Jesus? What does this prove? Do you know that Miraadyani himself believed that Jesus just like most Muslims he believed Jesus went up with his body and soul to the heavens.

Now I know the Kadani followers disagree with the with the uh leader on that and they said he didn't but he himself believed that Jesus was risen to the heavens with his body. So and what does that prove? What does that prove? nothing. If a person believes that or doesn't believe that, what does that prove?

So when you're going to debate them on a topic that is inconclusive in Islam, now this discussion of whether Jesus went up with his body and soul, firstly it's shocking that this has nothing to do with anything. And you're going to see that even molana Ahmed Razahan Brilli Sab himself says this is a non-issue that we as Muslims disagree on.

So any debating this is futile. That is the the the founder of the Brilvi movement molana Ahmed Raan Brilvi in his fatawaris and I'll show you that in a moment. Right? Now look, even if you believe in the second coming of Jesus or you don't believe in the second coming of Jesus, let's say you believe in the second coming of Jesus, right? Most Muslims do believe in the second coming of Jesus.

Why are you debating this with the Kadani? What what does that prove? So they are saying well look many Muslims did not believe there were several Muslims did not believe in the second coming of Jesus. Hazam highlights this. Imam Malik writes it's transmitted from him in the which Aljud who is the one of the you know the daddies of the madhab the dons of the Maliki Mab in his magnamopus which is one of the most relied upon books of in the Madhab especially the authoritative texts Alan today printed in 22 volumes brings that

of Malik that Jesus died on earth Now you could say fine we disagree with that. He says Jesus died on earth. Imam Malik said this in this Hazar is having this debate saying no person on in Islam has ever made this claim before say Ahmed who's like over just 100 years agound and something.

What are we talking about? Imam Malik said that Hazam discusses this in his book on a thousand years ago. He discusses this that the Muslims have disagreed on this matter. He says what Muslims agree on is that Jesus Isaam was not successfully crucified and killed on the cross.

He says they disagree. Was he risen with his body and soul or just his soul? And they disagree. He says, "Will he return before the day of judgment or no?" They disagreed. Some said yes, some said no. He writes in his he writes that that the and he's referring to the Sunni they disagreed.

He says even though he disagrees with that point but he highlights he says some say this coming of Jesus is just a metaphor. It's not it's symbolic. It means towards the end of time a Christlike consciousness will take over the earth. meaning that kind of uh you know this kind of uh love and and all of this Christlike consciousness will take over the earth the spiritual uh Isa meaning that not meaning physical he says some did say this he disagrees with it but he says some did say why are

is are people acting like nobody in Islam has discussed this and then what does it prove if a kadani says it what does it prove prove how does [clears throat] it prove their messiah? What? See when you debate these things molana Ahmed Rahani Mab writes in his fatawaris he says that these kadiani they have [clears throat] gone against cataclysmically against so many things in Islam.

Then they pick at these small things which they have some which these topics which have in it. They debate the Sunnis and because the issue is inconclusive, it looks like they've got an upper hand. So why would a person take this bait? Now look, a simple question with Kadani is there. There's no point even proving anything from the Quran because look saying look prove it to me from the Quran or the Sunnah or Sah firstly this belief of Jesus coming back is not in

the Quran everybody knows that it's not in the Quran just have a fair open honest discussion like imagine she Assad was to have this discussion now and he was to say look fine we believe this that based on this that let's say Jesus went up with his body and soul. Um, we believe Jesus is going to come back based on the interpretation of some verses. However, you've interpreted these verses differently.

Some people and what? And what? How do we move on? How do we get to something more important to talk about? So, you interpret it differently. And what? And to be fair now that debate he catches out sheh Assassar on many things. Now she Hasra was he was prepared in the rope style learning of prepaid but this [laughter] this Kadani you know it's like he did these kind of like he was very prepared

and I think she Hasar underestimated how prepared he was and then to be honest if he just this is Why sometimes I worry about people these like these kind of scholars like sheh they must not have a good circle of friends around them because if they did those people would have already told you about this kind of argument.

They would have already told you that this is wait a minute that this argument already can only go these ways. they would have already highlighted all of these issues to you. So I don't know like how does that work then like so maybe there's just yesmen and they're not giving you a very critical response. So when you say to them, how's my arguments?

How's this? How's that? They ought to tell you actually this is not conclusive. This is not, you know, somebody could easily question this, question that. Now shear has obviously gone into this debate. He's accepted the bait, taken the bait, and then these Kadanis on top of that, they corner him. They set him up because they get him to agree that we're only going to discuss the and of Isa the life and death of Jesus.

We're not even going to discuss the second coming, right? We're only going to discuss the life and death of Jesus. That issue which molana Ahmed Razahan Br him himself specifically writes is a non-issue. And he says this is an issue that he says that you know that that you cannot even say somebody's misguided based on this masah let alone calling them a so they choose on purpose such a masah that the bris themselves say is a non-issue.

You can't even call somebody misguided based on this because our own imams disagree in it. They lock him into that and then they, you know, they catch him out on all of and he's accepting this bait. I don't know why he's taking the bait. [clears throat] He he's he's kind of going along with it. Then they catch him out. They ask him to prove, you know, and then he's locking in with this mutawi.

They are they are using the evidences. Mutawi does mean that you know now shear is is trying to argue no muti cannot mean this muti cannol of the 20th century the the known ashul Islam in in the 20th century from Tunisia. The sheh Islam of not only Tunis of the Malik the grand of the Malak has a 30 volume in that he writes on this tawi can only mean this he says that there's no other

real understanding of it means to give death now there's nothing look this is something Muslims have said kadanis are not exclusive you know if a kadani comes tomorrow and says, "Oh, uh, let's say Kadani comes tomorrow and he says, "Oh, um, I believe um, you know, let's say he says something like something obvious, the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam used to live in Medina.

Say ah, so I must be right. The prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam used to live in Medina. Say I know. Say, no, no, the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam lived in Mina. Or let's say he takes a masala which we're going to say something like uh that Muslims disagreed upon but they accept predominantly. Now just because he claims it that doesn't mean anything. Muslims have already said that.

There's nothing special about saying it. Muslims have said that all the time. Some have challenged some have agreed. What what's the point of these discussions? So now they so they corner into this. The whole debate is spent on this. Then they catch out Asra on some Arabic mistakes. Now they catch him out on certain things.

I don't know why but made those mistakes. Now this thing where they catch, you know, shear uses the wrong verse. Now look, okay, maybe in a debate he's obviously somebody has messaged him or maybe he's it's I don't know because that verse they got it right. He got it wrong about now this they're saying this is from which is the second form and the one you're we're speaking about is the fifth form in Arabic.

So you've got the thing wrong now because she ass doubled down like imagine he said oh sorry you know in my bad right let's go back to what we're talking about in the midst of things sorry that just you know like let's say I don't think he has ADHD but let's say I have ADHD so I have like always 20 different tabs open in my mind let's say a person he says well oh you know what my bad that jumped in my head yes sorry of course of let's go back there would have been no big deal but because he doubled down and said oh no well you know carries and it's the same thing

with a different nuance then this is then kind of locking down and going oh you know oh you've you've got you made a mistake which obviously he has made that mistake and then he's constantly going on about certain things Alia it doesn't mean anything.

Now all that's happened is many Kadanis have used this discussion to say that they are somehow correct. Oh look we won one. How? Oh because you know shear like if you look at that debate unfortunately look Hasar did not do well in that debate.

that that's unfortunately the reality of that discussion did not do well. I I don't know if she can ever recover from that dis debate because you know it's like it's one thing to it's like my my mate said to me he said he said in a discussion we were having he said it's one thing to get beaten by a chal but it's one it's another thing to get beaten by a kadyani that's like it's like that's like a kadani chal because these kadyani That's all they are.

Like why are you giving these Kadanis the time a day, right? There's nothing to discuss here. Let them be. Look, straight off the bat, one thing Shehazar said very well at the end of the debate is that we are against all persecution of kadianis. People should just leave them alone. People should never uh try to harm them and do these things. 100% support that.

Right? That is something that he um Shehazar made a very good point. You know, Muslims were not thirsty for their blood. We're not this this is just like a propaganda against the rest of the Muslims. Some Muslims might be I'm not denying none of those incidents have happened by the way and they're very unfortunate. They're very unfortunate when any time some kind of bloodthirsty mob go and do something.

But Muslims should not be doing these things. And inshallah for the most part Muslims are not like that but and they should not be either. That said that look the these people to say look a person can try to prove anything using the Quran. Let's say let's say a person let's say these kadanis for example hypothetically let's say they there's a a 3.0 or a 2.0 and they callis [laughter] let's say these kuedis come up with a

new theory and their theory is bear with me run with me on this one let's say these kuedis uh they [laughter] nice little ring to that isn't there kuedi right so these kuis let's say they come up with a theory of a superior donkey man, alien donkey man species.

This is their theory that in the past this alien superior donkey man or these donkey men came to earth and they colonized earth and then they have shapeshifted and they've become they're still here and some have gone back to wherever they came from and like David Ike's lizard people these are donkey men people now this is theory and let's say they said some of these donkey men had inspired some of their leaders is now just run with this theory for a moment.

[snorts] So the now these this donkey man race let's say they said to you I'm going to prove this from the Quran and from our Islamic tradition. So what they do is that let's say they find all the verses in the Quran talking about donkeys. They say, "Yeah, but you know, look at this verse." You know, but anker here doesn't have to mean the most is this.

What if you took it to mean this meaning uh or the most denied? What if they're going to say the most denied voices or sounds is the sound of the donkey? Because the donkey was really an alien who was speaking the truth. That's why his voice is denied. And so let's say they're going to say that now and and adding to this, let's say they bring other verses about donkeys and and they say, "Oh, this goes to show like Allah says about donkeys, you know, so you can ride them and what if this meant about riding to in space

and um and and and they start building on this theory. And just to add to it, you know, in a lot of Islamic literature like let's say when the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam is speaking the Arabs when they spoke about people they would say often about like today we might say let's say black and white they would sometimes use uh the red and the black uh when they would say you know like as a um phrase when when we say oh you know come to all you know that such and such person came to people of all color.

The Arabs used to use this phrase to every black and red because obviously people around them usually it's warmer climates. You weren't usually white in the European sense white. You were usually a bit tanned and a bit red. So now Ahmmer means the red man. But Hamar is the same uh root for the word donkey.

So what if they said well didn't mean the red man it meant the donkey man to every dark man meaning man and every donkey man meaning Ahmed now how do you disprove that how do you disprove it cuz look you can say well that's nonsense but they say but I believe in it like what what do you want a person to do a person can use the Quran to believe anything that does not make it an evidence.

For them to say, well, we believe in Kadani because he came, you know, we're going to use this verse of the Quran to prove him. Doesn't mean anything. That's not the discussion cuz a person could use the Quran to justify terrorists. ISIS use the Quran to justify murdering people. people will use misuse the Quran to justify their things that doesn't just that doesn't prove anything you know I heard

[laughter] I heard uh some you know some this mulvi he was [laughter] satarizing and he said about the evidence that the kadanis use for their messiah you know he was uh crosseyed here like he was [laughter] that in itself is an argument that he could never have been a prophet of God because it would be an irony that how could God send a crosseyed person to guide you to the straight path that that would be the ultimate

is taking the you know it's a pake that's taking the mick that's like you need to get away desperately ely urgently and to help you get away I send somebody with a limp and he like do they understand the urgency so why would Allah send somebody to guide you to the straight path that is going to be like that cross-ite that you know he goes okay this is the he goes that is the huck this way [laughter] that is it just cannot happen

because prophets were never sent in a way that would be an oxymoron or that they would be ridiculed like that over their looks. Never. They were always sent with you know with absolute they had not only impeccable character but looks as well because people generally gravitate towards that towards this N which is not just which is in the S but also in the surah that they were had a beauty about them

in character but in looks as well they had a beauty because people are naturally you know it's like the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam this is a hadith that he said seek risk that from the and uh people dispute the chain but it's meaning he said seek risk from the beautiful faces that people you'll find they have they have a certain uh attraction to them Now and in Bkari there's a hadith of Abu Sufyan that when um one of the Roman the

Byzantine people is asking him he's not a Muslim at that time and he doesn't like the prophet but the person asks him that oh we hear there's this person uh in your Arabia who's risen and he claims and is he any of these things like is he a poor person like in that sense poor you see so it Doesn't mean you have to be like a multi-millionaire or rich but from the absolute you know like people who are disheveled and homeless and prophets were not like that.

They they came from humble origins but they were not poor in that sense poor like destitute because he says that he says no he says oh was he from the children of kings and he says no and then the emperor responds why he says because then I thought he would be somebody just claiming fame or chasing after a legacy of his fathers or doing like there's reasons why prophets are not like certain things they are sent from the noble tribes so when the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam came he was from not just Quraysh he was from Bunni Hash because the society had to accept him as

well and that would have just been another obstacle so he was from a noble tri so similarly you know this like being crosseyed you know like and then calling people towards a straight path that's taking the mick you know you couldn't [laughter] you If you go aa our messiah is here and then he turns up and he go then [laughter] everybody would be like yeah or if he's looking he's looking that way [laughter] this it would make a mockery of things and you know one of the mulies was

quoting saying kadani use as the evidence ka kana [laughter] kana you know kana in udu is like a crosseyed and that the crosseyed one from the prophets [laughter] will that's the so coming back to um right so coming back to all of this it's not about look prove it from the Quran because that's irrelevant the point is that they have to prove not

just just prove like why is a prophet as in I don't mean by why is he in the sense that he's going to say well God spoke to me as in the what did his mission amount to okay now and personally they don't even need to do that we're not really interested you know if a person if they want to believe in him that's up to them in all fairness in in my assessment of things was suffered unfortunately from mental health issues.

I feel that the Bachara had psychosis and possibly schizophrenia and it's not you see surprising to me what the things he said. What's more surprising is and are his followers that have bought into it. So he himself and I could be wrong but my assessment is that he uh had psychosis and was highly delusional and most likely suffered from schizophrenia as well.

Heard voices and the voices told him to do things and he believed these voices to be the voices of angels. Um and he's not alone in schizophrenia, psychotic schizophrenia like that. There's many people who've had that mental health condition and obviously it's very horrible as a mental health condition and you know whoever suffers from psychosis and schizophrenia may Allah make things easy for them and make things easy for their family.

But many of these people then claim you know if you go to visit a psych ward there'll be at least three four people claiming to there'll probably be about yeah three four people claiming to be Jesus and at least one claiming to be God. So in fact one of my uh friends was once telling me about a psych ward when he was there uh and I mean not there as a patient but but as a clinician I believe but he was saying that one of them was you see he was saying that he's Jesus now and then another guy was like well I'm the antichrist then they were uh you

know at loggerheads with each other he was like I'm Jesus he was like I'm the Antichrist. Oh, no. I'm the devil. Sorry. I'm the I'm the devil. Oh, and the Antichrist. Yeah, I think it was the devil and the antichrist. And then the third one, he got he he obviously they're all in a psychiatric. They were all mental, unfortunately, Vitali. And so, and then the third one said, "Well, he's God." He goes, "Well, I'm God, so I'm telling both of you, you need to back off." Then both of them would listen to the God one because they [laughter]

you know, you know, it's people are, you know, that's their world, isn't it? So, in their world, it kind of made sense to them. Well, okay. Well, he's God then. And you know and so look what I'm trying to say is that people suffer from things like schizophrenia and it's a very serious condition shouldn't be really taken lightly but and psychosis you know sometimes the psychosis they have like this psychotic schizophrenia so and that's almost very certain what was happening with Maharani and his followers ch it's up to them they want to believe him believe him you

know like doesn't really bother us. But this debate now what now? You know, you go in then you if you debate a non-issue like the coming of Jesus, what has that got to do? You know, Muslims have believed in that Jesus will not be coming back. So, and even and this hayat or mammoth is even more irrelevant. So, I'll just add here a this was some uh molana from Pakistan.

Chef Quran.

>> [clears throat] >> I think Uh, that sound effect was part of the video.

It wasn't me, just to be clear. This is whoever sent me this video. You see, he's highlighting that this [clears throat] he's showing how these things are um they can appear profane

and blasphemous to the prophets. like he quotes there about people saying about why Jesus will come back because he was unsuccessful like he failed and he's highlighting that look when you say these things they are seen as disrespectful like if you say he says like look I if I say now she Assar was unsuccessful and failed in this debate against lost this debate he says is that not obviously that's hurtful now so his point is that look these things uh let's let's carry on.

So he says well and to say that the prophets failed is utterly utterly unacceptable. He says look to have had this debate on hayat of Isa that is the topic.

And now he says look let's look at fatawa of molana ahmed rahan volume 15 [clears throat] and page 612. And by the way this art this is called um do I have it here somewhere? There it is. Oh, I can't zoom into it. It's called

Okay. So uh let me add that. So there is an article by molana ahmed rahani in his 15th volume where he's discussing about the kadanis. So he says look that this topic that they the kadanis tried to trigger among some Sunnis about

whether Jesus was uh whether Jesus died on this earth or whether he um you know whether he was risen to the heavens with his body and soul or just with his soul uh later on as in his body stayed on earth and died a natural death. He says this is between the Muslims. He says this. He says that forget let alone that you can

he says that look let alone calling somebody a kafir you cannot even say somebody's misguided based on this masala. So this is who this is Molana Ahmed. [laughter] He says look you're picking such a topic

which has no real strength in like it's neither it's a non-issue according to Muslims according to your own according to molana this is an utter non-issue that you can't even say they misguided you're picking that and then going up against a kadani with it then obviously He says, you know, because then that guy is going to have plenty of, you know, he's going to have like a leg to stand on.

Now, he's going to look like he's some kind of a a warrior all of a sudden. Like, this guy's some heavyweight. He isn't. But you've chosen a topic that you cannot win. And and this topic means nothing. Like, what is the purpose of this topic? So he says look I don't really want to talk so much about these people have asked me and so I've done this.

So this was the whole these debates look they one they get us nowhere two as Immalik said look what what does this prove that oh so like when the person said to Imam Malik as I said in the beginning that oh well if you beat me then you're on the h you know then you are upon the truth and he says okay let's say he says he says let's say I beat you and I'm upon the truth or let's say you beat me you're upon the truth another guy comes and beats you now he's upon the truth He says, "Is this how is it is the haka some kind of a joke that he just keeps like playing musical cheers like whoever

is you know might is rightus in Socrates you know the thrimic theory that whoever might is always right." No, this is look this is naivity. Sure having a dialogue I understand firstly there is no reason to be having a dialogue with these kadanis. I don't see any reason. What is there to pro? Look, we we're not we're not interested in Miradani.

Bachara had, you know, psychotic schizophrenia. You know, he suffered from severe mental health. The voices in his head, he thought they were angels and he thought that God was speaking to him. And clearly he wasn't. You know, it's it's it's, you know, the it's it's an unfortunate unfortunate uh mental health tragedy. So but but the people around him I'm [laughter] you know what can what can uh you know there's a uh there's a there's a person um in the

past he was known as being super stingy you know always you know there's a you say puka like you know like reja puka you know this guy's like he's so not only stingy he's like so covetous of anywhere he can get food, he's on it. He's like so like always drooling at the concept of food. So they mention so he's very popular in Arabic uh in our kind of books of generally history and stuff.

And so, uh, Ashab, he this one time he's walking and he's from Medina, by the way. And so, he's walking and he's super proper juice and proper uh, and so this one time he's walking and these kids, you know how kids like start sometimes, especially you might go to some countries, they might start ch, oh, give me something. Have you got any maybe some money or maybe something that he's like, "Oh, get away.

Get away. Scram. Get away. Get away." And then they're not leaving him and he's trying to walk off and they so to to to kind of misdirect them. He says, "Oh, do you know such and such house?" He goes, he's giving a free davat. He's giving like free food today. So the kids go, "Why?" He goes, "Yeah, yeah, they've got loads of, you know, like desserts, haloi. They've got loads of this over there that that the house over there." So the kids leave him and they start running towards that house.

So then uh Ashab he he he after two three seconds he starts running after that house and somebody stops him and they go you know some guy that was he goes wh why are you running he goes you never know what if they are giving free food [laughter] it's like the level of delusion is something else you know it's like I mean that's something he said in on the spot to get them and then he's thinking What if they are maybe

those that's the situation with the Kadani followers you know their level of delusion is another level you know that remember that B number movie back in the days this is this is like that you see so um the followers obviously outdid the leader in the level of mass psychosis that they adopted they were like hm Hm. [clears throat] You think you've got psychosis?

Wait till we show you the level that we have. Right. So these are going to come for you. Oh devils, right? These [laughter] look I say I speak about peace and love, right? Love, love, love low. Even Miraadyani Sab had low. Remember he the love he had with the what was her name something bigum you know the one he had low nothing wrong being a romantic at heart

is always you know this is a person should have romance in the heart yeah he try to you know uh one is in his romance what he's trying to do But he accidentally tried to do over the um instead. This one not nice. You know, this this wasn't good. You see him trying to go to his he should have kept it to his little love stories.

And um but look, yeah, I mean look, we're not interested in Makadani. He came, he lived, he died. He's not some kind of a threat to the Muslims. Like come on, realistically, you know, like

that way. It's not this is not a threat. Look, leave them alone. Let them be singlehandedly because our own Muslims have allowed them a seat at this heavyweight league. Why? Why are they in this division all of a sudden? You know, what are they? Look at them now jumping up and down with glee and celebrations as if they've proven their whole faith now just because catching out Asar's grammar and his Arabic and catching out.

Now, now they're acting like, "Oh, the lion of Sunnah we've defeated." Behave yourselves. [laughter] You know it's like this is what happens is this is what happens when you know travels you know it's like somebody said years ago when I was in Pakistan and they said um you know they if you get uh if you get a destitute person and you buy him a pajaro [laughter] a jeep that he's going to at least run over three four people at least that's and that's what seems seems to be

unfortunately the situation let's circle back um these kind of things like I said they bring no good and a person should realize and you know my thoughts this is not I don't say this in a way to um take digs at shehar my bond withhas in the recent years is very positive I uh have spoken to him on a few occasions just on Eid.

I sent him some wellw wishes and um you know he reciprocated look and she hazard has done some very noble things very admirable things like I mentioned leading when it came to city stuff and in Birmingham and when he rose on the litter and rubbish crisis and led by example. Allah bless him infinitely for that. You see he did some amazing things but this is not you know this debating thing and that too with these people it's not look sheh has had some debates

over the time one withhabek that didn't really go so well for the one where he debated him on ribba and hanafi and I think he didn't he underestimated then since that he's had some debates um he he's with Um what is it? Abd Rahman Hassan from the Copies that was kind of okayish.

um you know since then there was this the these whole things remember on moolid there were certain debates um with the Shia once again I don't know whether really anything good came of that debate with the Shia but some people say okay fair enough he held his ground but this chuff chuff thing um he didn't have a debate what would have been good is if he had had a dialogue with the chof chuff be rather than cuz look you You have to understand each person has a kind of you know there's this word like a robe in order

to this word is used a lot in the desi diaspora like a robe like a person has an aura to them yeah and in Arabic the term is ha even though is also an Arabic word but the actual word is a ha so this robe she has a robe to him many people do they have a different kind of aura.

Now, She As Hasar's aura, his kind of robe is that one more about like he tries to like he lands with a group of people. They have this kind of very uh there's a bit of that uh trying to dominate and do a bit of that almost and I don't mean this in a bad way, but a bit of that almost badmashi style, you know, they land like that kind of a bit of that kind of gangster aura.

Now this does not mean in a bad way because sometimes that aura is is a slick aura to have. Nobody can deny that you know sometimes that aura has a presence. The sheh uh ass when he lands like that you know he lands with these kind of this crowd with him and they they have a that aura and this is the aura that they are presenting that they carry that aura.

Now people have a different aura. Now each aura has its positives that has a positive it has a strength to it. Let's replace the word positive with strength. It has a strength to it. Nobody can deny that strength. Um but different people like you take sheh sakib shami he has a very different aura to you know very one about this kind of very enlightened like light.

He doesn't have that kind of um you know but like this kind of gangster aura at all. He has a very like he has a presence very nani. It's kind of like light and and almost this very regal like a royal presence almost you know like he has this prestige to him.

different people like take somebody like Mai Hassan he's a Muslim not a but he's a Muslim he has an intellectual intimidation about him he has an aura a robe an intellectual intimidation that when he talks he he's very sharp very on the spot now a person like that that hasn't intellectual intimidation.

They can go into debates because they have that intimidation and intellectual intimidation about them. So they they can off the cuff very sharp, very witty, very Now she that's not his aura. He does have an aura. He has a presence. He has a robe to him. But it's more that kind of robe, you know, like the way they landed at Chu I mean that chu chu be thing the way they in the part and it's it's been like this you know like they right from the beginning early days when they would land and um have that

presence and they would challenge people uh I think one of the early ones was Mort Zahan and a few like this this has come along this is now that is a there is a strength to that aura I'm not denying this is why he has that presence about him his aura is not one of intellectual off-the-cuff intimidation. That's not the aura, you know, like Mati Hassan, he doesn't have the that kind of the landing aura.

He has an intellectual aura, intellectual intimidation. So doing this debates debates debates it really doesn't like even this diab debates you know I think maybe she assar did okay in the I mean in the first ones it was just nothing it was just silly back and forth I think recently they had another one I didn't really watch it but I saw some clips of it that they he put forward somebody else instead but he was present in the debate these things.

What is the purpose of these? Because it definitely isn't an intellectual dialogue. For an intellectual dialogue, a person just has to be fit. It not be rigid with a set of dogma. Look, in a conversation, a person can just say, "Okay, fine. Let's okay, if we want to look at a dialogue, let's look at it from an intellectual perspective and let's take it apart.

let's just have a conversation where you present something I can talk to you I present something you can talk to me that's if you want to do that even then very little is produced like look this um Quranist uh brother when he turned up on my show and he said he wanted to have this and I said look I'll only do a dialogue and he wanted to do a dialogue now I said look very little comes from these things but TK I'll have a dialogue with you.

Now, he came on my show, we had a dialogue. Did anything come from that? Okay. I think unfortunately he did very he did not do well. Um and then he just got very upset with me, you know, he got very upset and then they, you know, he now all of a sudden any brotherly kind of thing disappeared.

You know that love disappeared now because now it became about ego. It became look I'm I don't mean by this people whether they have a big ego or not nobody likes being embarrassed. Nobody likes losing. You have to accept that nobody likes losing. This is why Imam Malik's point was that okay if you beat me and I lose and what is that going to make you happy? Does that make you somehow truthful? So nobody likes losing.

It's it is humiliating. So at best like okay fine you will win. Now this will just be entertainment. Haha I humiliated them. I did this I did that. You know the guy got embarrassed like that Quranist he came on. Now when I started asking him questions he got embarrassed. Now he may not like the thought of that but the truth is it was embarrassing.

Now fine okay in that case I did well. But what happened? Any brotherly bond we had has now disappeared. Now they completely hate me. They dislike me. They dis like because that's the nature of these things. People, it is an delusion to think people are seeking some kind of truth.

They're seeking entertainment, right? That's all they're seeking, entertainment. And winning like getting the upper hand doesn't prove anything. That's another thing that obviously these Gatanis should never get an upper hand in any of but they chose look these dialogues are stupid choosing discussions of like oh Jesus and this it doesn't prove their thing they I hope this has been of some help.

Um it really does bring us back to questioning what are we doing? What are we doing? You know what's that? What is that? Sorry. You know this, you know, it says I suddenly my glance fell upon my reflection

that I I for a moment recognized like I I felt my reflection was familiar that where are we? What is our legacy? I want us to focus on this and I I'll wrap on this. But this is the takeaway.

I want us to take this away. What is our legacy? What are we doing? If my life just becomes about me refuting other people then what do I have to show for me that you know it's like the poet said that that bring what you've done that you know there's no point saying that oh my fathers or my ancestors or the like the point is that bring what you've done and in this case obviously it's not about fathers or ancestors but it's about reacting

So every time somebody we've just become a people of clickbait and we've traumatized our own ummah in the English language that look we're just reacting we're not seeing any good what are the what is the theories that we are bringing to people let's work on theories you know I was having this conversation with someone um recently and we

shall we say in our cigar evenings you know about talking about well what are some theories in the last years that I had been working on and remember [clears throat] theories don't just come to us they take time they they can take ages, years, and I was just reflecting and in that conversation over the last um the last several years, I was

highlighting, you know, we were going over this thing of merging, synthesizing, of trying to understand reality, cosmology, reality with a capital R. that understanding things like taking from the the well, the spring of Sheh Mahin Arabi, his map of reality,

merging that with psychology, bringing it up to up to speed with our language today with Lan, this thing of that the the barak being the deep unconscious being that the imaginary order being the symbolic order being the theat being the real of merging that giving us an understanding

the theory and we were just going through some of them the taking the holographic principle from physics and mapping that onto Arab's uh the unconscious being the Bzak and this world is a hologram a holographic entity that appears from the Bzak and the Bzak being a space that is not that is inverted then so we in this world we have this kind of 3D as Ari says this world is a maj and madar of the bah.

So the barak being the boundary and this being the bulk as in physics and the imaginary and the symbolic seeping through like almost like Wi-Fi signals or things. This theory for example, a theory that I worked on was uh that I that dawned on me was that meaning is a fund irreducible fundamental of reality and that that is in my interpretation whatn meant by

that were born when Allah mirrored to the first being which was not a meaning but beingness with a capital B that when Allah mirrored his glory to it the were created to me that was meaning with a capital M and therefore meaning would be an irreducible fundamental of reality that that that is a theory you know that that's something that took me ages this theory of

of this world being a simulation created by the divine that we tying into the holographic principle that if we are um if we are in a simulation then many things all of a sudden would make sense and remember what we are being projected from this reality is being projected from the ba And and there's this other theory here of the barak and being inversed that

here you see space moves in three directions and time appears to us in one. But in physics in the block universe everything time is not it's everything has happened. It doesn't it doesn't really move in that direction that we think it moves in. Past, present and future are all coexistent. Now based on that it dawned on me that the bzak would be inversed where space would be one but time would appear to be in three directions.

And this is why in dreams we see things before they've happened or we get intuition before things have happened because in the bak sense everything is already time is not how it is here. It's the future has in many ways happened. This really made me think about the theory of retrocausality. What if the future is causing the past and working in that way like Wheeler said, you know, what collapses the wave function?

And I looked at this from Islamic perspectives. And so this is a a theory, you know, you've got um you know Dr. Rupert Sheldre's his theory of morphic resonance that how they are memory fields and bofields and all these fields exist that there is a theory that I um I kind of you know I had a dialectic I it appeared to me once again these are theories I don't know whether they're true that what if all of

time is con it is concurrent and not consecutive because if it's a simulation it could be infinitely complex in how it's interwoven. What if all lives run concurrently but they just appear and then the hadith would make sense that well you know when a person dies the has been established or at least in that person's perspective because what if all life runs concurrently.

So everybody, let's say in your let's say in my world now I'm uh 47 but and my father is in his 70s but what if right now in his thing he's only 47 and I'm so young and what if in my grandfather's he's 47 and my father is young maybe I'm just born in that what if these realities run concurrently and that would better explain the morphic resonance field of shared memories and heritability traits which DNA struggles to explain by the way but

it is common sense you know Dr. Rupert Sheldrake highlighted that if you read a person's because we have the human genome project decoded that if you read for example you take something like height DNA alone could only be like something like a 5% predictor of a person's height but you could just look at his family and predict his height and you would have almost 90% accuracy. some cases you'd be wrong but you'd have massive success that he highlights these morphic resonance fields now but there is still a question that the morphic resonance fields he feels are just there but that made me think

what if everything was concurrent happening at the same time then the shared morphic fields would make much more sense now look these are theories I'm not saying that But these are theories that okay that I think over at times you know maybe when I'm reflecting maybe when I'm in a deep state like a different level of consciousness and I share these theories with people and you know we don't like none of these are like is they none of these have a problem Islamically and then I think about the Islamic evidence for them and

but my point is what are we doing with our time. You know what are we doing? Like are we presenting something? Are we only just reacting to other people? Are we just refuting people? Is this all we're doing? What is what can come out of that?

Now if we are going to at least work on some things ourself like if we're part of an intellectual tradition then let's present intellectual theories you know if we're part of a different tradition let's present that if we're part of but right um so that's uh can Right.

Right. Allah Allah. Those of you let's wrap this up. It is uh now we are on the blessed Friday. Allah. And look I want to also add here that life is a journey. It is a journey. And I I feel some of the best part the most amazing it's that quote that I share often it's the you know the the the wise the wisdoms of the where it says the boy asked the um the panda what matters most

the journey or the destination and he says nei he says it's the company that. So life is a journey and what matters is the company and in the company the dialectic the dialogues the to and frs the learning the to converse to speak it is the greatest pleasure you know lan we're going to go off topic where he speaks about that is the ultimate kind of uh he's speaking about desire and obviously being paramount the intercourse desire But he's saying the

ultimate is is to converse. And then we'll end up going off topic. Right? So the point is that we we're on this journey. We will along the way change our thoughts, change our certain views will change along the way.

our nuances, iterations, we will re-examine thoughts and ideas that we had over time. We will change ideas. You know, it's as Young said, you know, what if people don't have ideas? Ideas have people. This was another theory. You know, there was another theory I was recently um really reflecting on. It dawned on me.

I'll share it with you is you know uh Carlo Ralli who's a physicist he has this theory on quantum relation mechanics or quantum relational mechanics and QRM and he speaks about and but this is building from that so just as a small you know springboard he is highlighting that we in this world are in relation to other objects and as in quantum fields an object is in relation to another object otherwise it doesn't exist.

Now he extrapolates that to our world in saying we and people and things too only exist because of other people in relation and and that may sound absurd at first because you think well oh is this just the age-old you know if I don't see him I don't you know if a tree falls and nobody hears it or sees it did it even fall but it's actually more complex because what you see do we exist if we don't exist in relation to other entities, especially conscious entities and other entities.

Like, let's say you're looking at me now, but let's say you were some alien species that saw air as a solid. Would I be distinguishable? would if you saw like like look we can't see heat but using thermal you know infrared and thermal we can we can kind of see uh heat but generally we can't animals see things differently we can't see so well in the dark

um what if things appear different what if people could see or they saw differently would We would we even exist in this way? You'd say, well, we do look we exist in this way, but we exist in this way because we understand and perceive ourselves to exist in this way. If we were, are we separate from the heat that leaves our body? Are we separate from the air that we consume?

Are we separate from the floor on which we stand? And you might say, "Yeah, but are we? And is it not a matter of perspective?" So Carlo Ralli he's presented this theory. Now I was reflecting on that about Hari and it made me think you see because about whatn Arabi had taught that and I want you to bear with me slightly on this right that you know when we experience emotions like let's say you watch a video about some gratitude or

kindness or something empath you know with requiring empathy you have an emotional experience. Let's say you feel a sense of love all of a sudden or gratitude or rage or kindness. Um let's say a mother feeling a deep love of motherhood towards the baby.

Did she have that experience when the baby was not even there? When the baby wasn't even born or the baby didn't even exist? No. Did you have that act of kindness or love or rage without the object or the phenomenon, the recipient phenomenon of that emotion or experience? No, you cannot feel an act of kindness, compassion, love, rage, anger, warmth, anything without there being an object that is a recipient that receives that.

Even if it's in your mind, you cannot have a feeling of even kindness without even a a mental image of somebody or something to be kind to. Now hold that thought because you're the same person. Let's say I'm now the same person but 5 minutes later I go into this emotional you know frenzy which I which makes me so emotional I start crying.

I see some thing that moves me so much. But I was the same person 5 minutes ago but I didn't have that experience 5 minutes ago. So, am I this person? Am I that person? Now, what if, now hold on to that thought. Let's build on what Carl Young said. What if people don't have ideas, ideas have people?

What if these experiences we are not having them, they are having us? Now what if in another realm overlapping this which we can't see just the way as we can't see heat we can't see temperature we can't even see the air we can't see what if these experiences are the divine manifestations of Allah's names which are having us in that moment and as they having us we become engulfed enveloped in that experience >> [clears throat] >> So we become we experience

that divine rahma as it is being or that divine kum generosity or kindness or we experience even wrath and rage and even experience power or knowledge. We experience these things. It is not so much within us but we are being had by that divine manifestation of that divine name of Allah that experience is enveloping us and we are then feeling this and this is

why when Allah says had you fed the hungry person you would have found me there you know had you visited that sick person you would have found me there because the experience which was the divine manifestation in that realm of Allah's name would have enveloped you and you would have been immersed because these experiences it made me realize that from one lens

If you go away look at this quantum relational mechanics you see we if you look through a different lens like like I said like looking through infrared or looking through a different lens what if we could see it what if we could from let's say a certain lens let's say everything you can just see expressions of Allah's names in reality and they are enveloping entities, people, beings.

So yeah, I I thought about that. Honestly, it dawned on me and and even this as an idea, it had me. I didn't have it. You see, because we are naive to think that ideas are just neurons firing in our head. All of us have very similar neurons firing in our brains. Why do we not all have the same level of ideas?

You see, so this theory really had me thinking that wow, I thought about and it was a springboard from Carlo Ralli's quantum relation mechanics. And then I started thinking about emotions um and how they are almost transhuman. They are almost above, you know, more than human.

And then I started to think well are you the same person before or when not having the emotion. And then it made me think that these emotions are almost sacred and sometimes violated, which made me think about Harab's theory that the world is really a manifestation of Allah's names. And I I thought, wait a minute, what if these names, these experiences which we feel as emotions are experiences that are manifestations of Allah's names that are having us and not us having them.

I thought I'd share that um with you. So yeah, so this is sometimes What my mind wonders when wondering. Huh? Allah. You know when the when you enter that deep state of pensive consciousness with a cigar.

Allah. Allah. Allah bless you all. May Allah keep you all smiling. May he envelop you in his mercy. May you forever be positively trapped in Allah's love and be a mirror of that to mankind. You see what is the what is the purpose of experiencing these things if not to mirror them back onto people?

Love, kindness, compassion, wealth, gratitude, you know, forgiveness. all of these things. May Allah bless you all. If you did want to reach out to me, you're more than welcome to reach out on Instagram. If you haven't already, if you haven't liked subscribed to my channel, then do so.

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