Mufti's Meetup [New Year's day! 🤟😊]

let me share the in is this the invite or i think so i think so i don't know what i've just shared there let's hope it is the invite one moment let me check again all right happy new year happy new year share the invite this is going out people to all of you it do and it you do in it happy 2021 ma diogeo all right so first of all

i've got no idea if you can all hear me i take it you can hear me so let me just put up the alright people alright happy new year there you go my princesses miss princess do you want to say happy new year happy new year happy new year alright people alright there you go 20 21.

let's go back to the comments sound is perfect it's coming through all right so what an incredible year it's been huh what an incredible bad yeah is that so it's been a bad year no year is a bad year you always learn and you always have new experiences new memories don't you think so we had nominations also all right that's what we're talking about people is it thursday night with muffy now right so it has been we are in 2021 misenter

2021 so we're talking about i'm still a covert patient recovering we love the fake coffee oh fake coughing brother so all right let's show you bring on some of you people onto the live stream right i've shared the link in the comments i'll share it again there you go people somewhere

what's going on let me add some people i'm a tribe it's like toast time that's good how are you keeping good good it's uh obviously it's new year i mean i'm not doing much my mom's in pakistan right now so okay well it's just me and my dad here right now you can't hear us also but yeah so all

right well happy new year and i hope insha'allah this year may allah uh shower us with infinite blessings i mean i have a mock exams in one month well with the lock down i don't know if that's gonna is that gonna still go ahead yeah they made school start later i was gonna start on the fifth now it's time 11th so they move the exams back hmm don't worry you'll fly through it man you'll fly through that's the spirit you know what i'm saying what is the examine it's gcse so it's like

10 different something gcses your flights what are gcses man yes i was wondering about if i could ask you a question girl one girlfriend what's the question i was actually um i was wondering about your um your idea on miracles i just i have a hard time understanding it because i find it [Laughter] um i would just don't you think that if

like in the like if allah says like in his hand is the entire dominion wouldn't it make sense that he would be able to you know he would be able to change the laws and you say the you say there's sunnah but every time that i've said where is that it kind of talks about you know the reward and the punishment he gives to prophets rather than the natural laws yeah so you see this obviously i want to justice to this question right here um i have got a detailed video on how to approach stories in the quran

and i think it's titled the uh what is the queen of sheba um but so people can watch that for a detailed response but you see the question is this that what is the purpose you see you've got your question is valid but you've got the whole topic on its head because the real question is what is the purpose of a miracle i can propose a purpose what is the purpose okay so you would have to understand what you obviously do understand the whole dynamic right so god sends a prophet like he goes to the nation and

he proves god right yeah and if they deny him then they get punished right this is sure but what's the purpose of the miracle the purpose of the miracle is so that the punishment is on that nation thank you then the only reason for that denying it wouldn't be because of some logical misunderstanding some people think of arrogance the ocean ocean or the sea splitting can happen within the geo within normal realms it doesn't need to be supernatural sure it doesn't have to be supernatural

but yeah the uh the argument to say that it wouldn't be supernatural like allah says he showed him nine signs and then foreign talks about this as being the biggest crime right stop but but you're kind of off topic there because you were supposed to explain what the purpose of doing a miracle was the purpose of the miracle is so that the nation can have god prove to them to such an extent it's called it's right now so let's let's take that so it's a proof for the sign of god so let's take

let's take moses now you said throwing the stick but moses was never sent to convert the magicians was he ever sent for them he was sent to the pharaoh no he was not sent for quran isn't it yeah but he was not sent to preach to firaoun he was just asking them to let bani go with him [Music] he asks that let me go with bani israel and feron is not letting him letting them leave he's not there to convert pharaoh

because pharaoh is not from his people no but as a prophet of god he would show he was he was sent to banisha who was sent to the world and was he sent to the coptics as well and was he sent to the other how come he never preaches to the cops or to the egyptian people he's only preaching to bani israel i'm not sure about that but if you how would you then respond to the ielts no because according to the aca who say that again

yeah so giving him guidance he's saying that i will guide you no so you see when he's gone there he now obviously depending what interpretation you take he has to he's trying to get the israelites out now if you take the traditional biblical version uh then he's going there pleading with the pharaoh to allow the israelites to leave for seven days yeah this is what he's doing and according to the biblical according to the versions pharaoh agrees then he changes his mind afterwards now he's not there whilst he is there there's an interaction going

on but you know what are you what is all this about what is this worshiping the god and he's mentioning this but he's never sent to convert the pharaoh that's not his mission his mission is simply to take the israelites back to the holy land i'm i mean i'm not sure if i agree because the island because that is the general understanding is every prophet was only sent to his people apart from the prophet muhammad so if you're saying that moses was an exception he was sent to the whole world it's not working it's not musa islam that's the exception it's the progeny of ibrahim al-islam

that's the exception because ibrahim al-islam he was sent to a specific nation first when he was younger and then when he was older he was told to set up the the mosque in makkah and the mosque in palestine as a symbol of god and as monotheism on earth and that was and that's when god's second uh you can call it plan for humanity i mean but that's you see this is all speculation isn't it it's not clear in the quran is it clear in the quran because there's no you see you're speculating that abra you see we accept that ibrahim alaihissalam

was one of the early monotheists yeah that kind of preaches monotheism but does he go around to people preaching to them and does he go around all you you have an understanding with his own people he has this clash and he leaves them then he kind of wanders throughout the earth and does things now then there's speculation that was he preaching to people there's no historical record that he would go to people and preach to people as in try to convert these people and that people i i'm not neither does the bible refer to that the quran doesn't refer to it either so i'm not sure you can you can say look i i guess

he did this but there's nothing showing you that he actually did that the reason for that inference would simply be the allah and it said that he's gonna make the prophethood now specifically

so you're saying there's no other prophets that were not from after ibrahim that were not from his progeny after ibrahim al-islam the prophets to my knowledge were all from his progeny there's so many who we did not tell you about it would make no sense that for four thousand if abraham was four thousand years ago that since then god only favored the semitic people the semites he never favored the south americans he never favored the chinese he never favored the indians he never favored none of these people buddha may have been a prophet

uh for all we know uh confucius may have been a prophet socrates may have been a prophet we don't know this so to say only the children of ibrahim al-islam who were the semites the chosen people of god i think that's a very biased view to take that god only favors ibrahim's offspring but that's a favor mankind in general but that's from the ayah i don't remember the exact arabic where it was we have chosen the family of ibrahim and imran and other men no but this is you see when we're not saying that allah hasn't shown certain favors to them but he says look there's

people we haven't talked about them it doesn't matter allah says you know there's ah there's others there's many others but we didn't tell you their stories it doesn't mean god didn't favor them and this is relative like when allah is saying we favored ibrahim but he says to bani israel so upon israel more favored than the ummah of muhammad or is that just relative speech like when you're saying in that context like when allah says to musa do not be the first to disbelieve

obviously that doesn't mean no person on in humanity has never disbelieved before it just means that relative like if i say okay who's going to be the first in class i mean now i don't mean since humanity began who's going to be the first in class so but you've gone completely off topic about the miracles yeah what was the purpose of a miracle now if you say the purpose was only was to prove god that doesn't really seem to make any sense because according to every miracle you show nobody ever really believes in god then when they see these miracles so what is the purpose of these

and if if you say that god has done them to some people but he will never repeat them again like why won't he repeat them now okay so that that would be because there's there's two sides so you have to hear both right so okay one moment

yeah so yeah yeah so there would be two sides right so you're basically saying that why don't we get any miracles right no i'm not saying that you see you still not established a reason for a miracle because you're saying the reason is to believe in god but then that's a poor reason if it never works like show me one time it's actually worked then because you're saying every time the miracles were shown people disbelieved so it's really just a signal to say now i can punish you which doesn't make any sense either because it's like saying well how is it faith if do you see where i'm coming from like

it's because this is the it's the it's the sunnah of god right so i'll try and explain it no just you just need to answer that simply by saying look what is the purpose right so god he's set this entire world right now just straight to the straight to the point yeah what is the purpose there's some specific nations which he said no don't get straight straight to the point what is the purpose of a miracle we don't need a backdrop we all know we're all muslims we all know how how this works tell me what is the purpose of a miracle the purpose of the miracle is for god to prove upon the nation that the only reason that you are denying me

is because of arrogance and stubbornness now that that doesn't that that's the purpose of america so let me get this right the purpose of a miracle is to show the people you've failed okay now this is where the bible this is where the back drops we don't need a backdrop we don't need a backdrop we just need a purpose just explain is there a reason why god is uh showing a miracle we just need a reason one simple reason it's to establish the the court of god on earth for a certain people with justice so they can so that they know but

no you see you're just saying words that are like sound nice but carry no meaning like to say look it's established the majesty of the lord and over his dominion and so on and so forth what does that mean what does that mean the purpose of a miracle is no people have ever believed in it so either god doesn't know that or he knows that so he does so his purpose is either failing every single time or his purpose is i want to do it and i want people to disbelieve in it you didn't let me say the last sentence is so that they can become an example for the rest of humanity so

no so you see look if you're going to say an example they're only going to be a story that's all that they're going to be isn't it so it's going to be a story it's not going to be physical proof so when you say an example it's only a story so i say to you hey do you know 2 000 years ago this happened one day so you're going to naturally say well um i don't really believe that it happened i'm not i'm 50 um if because it's just a story isn't it it's not physical proof it's you know it's because if those people saw the actual proof and didn't believe why would people later on by hearing the story believe that first of all i i'm not sure if

not everyone disbelieved in it i'm sure some people did believe in the miracles such as what what miracles the magicians right now there's a difference of opinion on what happens there first of all moses was not even sent to those magicians to believe to start off with so that the miracle for them is useless you could say the miracle was for bani israel to say the miracle was for non-bani israel who are not even his people right it goes against the purpose of what you said the reason the real was to prove to the people that the prophet is sent to there's no point

the prophet you know there being a miracle in arabia and some people in beijing start believing you know the whole purpose of a miracle is god is going to say well hey people i'm gonna suspend my own laws and do something so unbelievable uh and why am i doing it again oh yes so nobody believes in it but that's that's discount the premise that you'll argue that's discounting that musa islam was sent to pharaoh because in surah nazi to me it's clear that okay so look put that aside whether he was sent to the pharaoh or not right uh he was sent to bani israel that's generally the only

every prophet was only sent to his people now you may say he also via his mission also preached to the pharaoh but that whether he preaches to the pharaoh or not is not the the purpose here the purpose is what is the point of a miracle because the pharaoh doesn't accept it no the bani israel don't accept it uh you know every like you can switch from prophets okay what what is the what is the mish what is the miracle of the prophet muhammad sallallahu alaihi okay so the miracle of the prophet muhammad would simply be the quran no no no that's not supernatural

you need to show something supernatural how is that not supernatural how is it well it's not it's within the cosmos isn't it within the laws of nature what what is the supernatural element is it possible for a human being who's lived in a people um for 40 years never touched poetry and then for 23 years straight he says verses which are philosophical and his philosophy doesn't change in 23 years okay so if that's if that's the case then why did it not strike the arabs it did

strike the arabs do not know no for 13 years around the prophet the people didn't embrace islam and that was the most uh poetic surahs of the quran they weren't so mesmerized to become muslims it was only the low a few people that embraced islam and it's only after the prophet migrates to a city that is built upon migration that they embrace islam but and the surahs change they're no longer these rhythmic surahs so the surahs which for 13 years the prophet is saying and according to you that is the miracle that if anybody

hears it they automatically recognize this is uh you know this no human can ever come up with this is this what you're saying that no human can ever come up with this look i as a muslim have no problem saying these things but look when you're going to be objective like if i asked you now what is it that's so miraculous about the about the quran now you yourself would say well i don't know but it's been written in books that it's miraculous now you see saying things like that what i'm saying is it just it's it's look as a muslim i'm not gonna be against that saying that the quranic

arabic is amazing but let's be real if somebody came and tomorrow said to you yeah but this chinese thing is miraculous how are you now you don't speak chinese so you can't really evaluate it and they say no no no you know this amazing chinese work that we've got here that is 3000 years old if somebody came to you and said the vedas the rig vedas are so miraculous in the in their sanskrit now well we don't speak sanskrit so we can't really assess it so if you're saying well the miracle of the quran is the arabic and look i speak arabic uh but it's true i i won't be able to exactly no i i feel most people who speak arabic

today can't really highlight the miraculous nature of the quran quranic arabic we can just say it's amazing but we're going to say well okay maybe our arabic isn't that good enough to understand it on that level so then who who gets so it's only a select few people and most of mankind can never understand this miracle so i think what you're saying look it sounds nice that's that's one side i'm not against it sounding nice but you know when you're gonna go out there and preach to people you gotta preach objectively so god is

everybody's god he's not just the god of the arabs and to say that look well there's something you know this is such a supernatural miracle people are going to ask you to qualify how do you qualify the the quranic text being a supernatural miracle you're going to say well i don't even i for one don't even understand arabic so i'm just blindly following what other people have said and you could say well look i do understand arabic and i can say the quran is amazing it is but i can't demonstrate a supernatural element to it and well i could say well that's maybe because i lack in such high eloquent high arabic of the

ancients but then so does everybody on the globe today you know nobody really understands it to that let's say that high arabic of the ancients we don't so i i feel that the argument it's it's not a universal argument you know one side of the coin i i didn't just say that or it just sounds nice it's also the aspect of what the contents of the book like i can i know i can understand perhaps 70 of the arabic in the quran i'm still learning but the contents of the book a philosophical question will take a thousand years to answer by humans the quran answers in one second in one

sentence like what the argument of god man was in misguidance he didn't he was talking about amazing the concept of god did not exist before the concept of god did exist but for a person like me and then explain the explain the thing that you say you know that was so supernaturally explained in the quran that men could not come up with for a thousand years it's not about supernatural it's about clarity and the like what like what okay so god will say a simple thing see look let me let me tell you something look listen i i don't like to have this conversation you know why because this conversation

is gonna make it look like i'm talking down to the whole topic no no it is but the truth is you're talking where of your depth because what you're saying you know you can't provide a single example i know as a fact you can't provide a single example right because there's nothing you can say i know look but this is i don't want to be that person that pins that down because you're obviously saying magnificent things about the quran and i like it obviously as a muslim but they're not scientific they're not objective statements that one can make they're just subjective like i i feel this is amazing

i feel this is wow it creates such a feeling and emotion and i'm with you but to say that that is a supernatural miracle why because it tackles philosophies that mankind has never come up with i i i i could ask you and even if you took a year you won't be able to come up with something because any single concept that you come up with they've already discussed it before islam it's been discussed it's nothing that you know the quran did not come up with new concepts it just came and it preached a message of connecting creation with its creator and it was i do believe that it's it's kind of

it was it's scripture is an art form okay it was a recitation and i feel the miracle is a subjective one that it's the experience it creates in people but it's not an objective one like you're claiming that you know you can put it out there and you can measure it and you can say well this is uh supernatural now you know but i don't you know what i think this topic inshallah will leave it to that because it makes me because i'm gonna you know what you're gonna say doesn't stand up but i have to chop it down and i don't like doing that because you're obviously speaking of the quran and it makes me speak like as if i'm speaking against it which i'm

not but i'm just saying that your arguments are nice they're good you know they're sentimental and i like that uh you know you've got that emotion you're obviously young and you've got it and it's good but it's not you know if you're gonna go around saying that look this is a supernatural miracle the the book the only problem is people are gonna embarrass you by they're gonna embarrass islam because they're gonna say well first of all explain that supernatural miracle nobody can do it then the only excuse is well our arabic isn't that high then what's the purpose of it if nobody seems to understand this miracle aspect and it's only first of all most of mankind don't speak arabic

secondly those who speak arabic still don't get it the miracle aspect uh maybe one two people might claim to know it but then how is such a universal miracle for only one two people so i would say that look allah does communicate the miracles do work but they work within god's own created laws he has created them and he helps people through them as he helps them today as he helped them in the past he's not a different god that favored those israelites and the jews of 3000 years ago and doesn't care about the people of today you know to me god is one for each and

all so that makes a lot more sense let's inshallah wrap that up but happy new year man take care stay blessed whoa people what is going down i've got quite a few people waiting here let me bring on some others i'm still recuperating from this covid it's been one hell of a ride i tell you man this it's been horrible you know i mean i uh sunday night i was feeling a lot better and then you know monday i was feeling good and tuesday i

fevered up again and a headache again and i was thinking no please please not again and and then wednesday still had a bit of a headache and and it got a bit better than towards the evening but yeah so feeling uh a lot a lot better now so alhamdulillah let me bring on some people [Applause]

right tried adding that no he went straight off uh we've got zazz i am perfectly all right uh last grace how are you uh uh how's it going

let's see what happens so something you'd like to share with us i've been waiting in uh to be in here for like uh i think past two three meetups but i couldn't get a chance so this is uh [Laughter] so what's going on how can we help what shares share your thoughts or questions or comments i wanted um your word on on on all this online toxicity that is going on with all these ex-muslims and islamophobes

coming on together attacking islam and then you know um then you know uh that whole episode with armen wherein he tried to um you know go out of his domain and and tickle the whole hindutva mob that basically cheers them all along and then uh seeing how it actually backfired and now uh there are lots of ex-muslims who are now turned on against uh people like abdullah sameer and and others out there um do you think that um it's it's just that you know uh there's

this feedback loop going on there wherein these ex-muslims are you know um providing uh to these uh hindu two fanatics what they like to hear and then they're you know um you know providing a feedback by sort of uh i mean it's interesting because i um you see i do feel that some of these people are genuine in their cause um i mean i don't know if all are but i do feel some definitely are genuine but then it's interesting that some of them they they do play to certain religions it's like

how uh apus was kind of teaming up with uh christian fanatics like david woods just to go against muslims which is quite bizarre when you think about it because christianity is i i would say it's much more bizarre than you know if you can pick holes let's say with islam as as ex-muslims are trying to do you'd find you know many greater holes to pick with christianity so it seems to be a bias that they're very some of them are just very anti-muslim and then that rage has

blinded them from so they have you know like the enemy of my enemy is my friend that kind of thing well anybody who hates muslims they seem to get on with so you're right so some of them start to get a lot of uh right wing hindu fascist supporters that support them just because they also bash on muslims um so yeah that is weird but i have seen some of them then criticize those people as well and get a lot of hate for it and people actually some people get surprised why are you criticizing for example hinduism or this you know you're an

ex-muslim you ought to just criticize islam but um yeah if that's what you mean i i definitely agree there is i feel a bias with a lot of them a prejudice yeah but you know do you think there could be uh some other deeper reasons to it for example uh if you look at generally this uh ex-muslim crowd they seem to be from some countries wherein there are quite authoritarian regimes for example people from iran for example let's say so do you think that this kind of authoritarianism wherein

um where in certain hardline aspects of religious thought are imposed on people and then they get disenfranchised with religion and then you know uh these things happen yeah i mean there is a lot obviously islam is misrepresented there's a lot of you know there's that kind of mob mentality mullah mentality whoa all right we lost uh oh no he's back so yep so i do feel that's a you there you look all right i think we've lost him okay cool i think we lost him so

not to worry it's a good uh question um yep right well that's a good question i do agree that i think there are a lot of these biases and a lot of these things and uh but and in many on many occasions muslims uh misrepresent islam and they have this very mob mentality which scares away many others so i do agree there is a lot of that um all right what's going on islam has just more let's see more negative results in the world

i'm not sure what that exactly means um don't know what he's talking about abu leith don't know why he's talking about amateur i don't know what that question even means right so happy new year you do in it golden banana caveman you're doing it um let's see let's bring on some other people right uh you're doing it you doing it you do and it much love much love

so let's see who we got here sid sid is in the house assalamu alaikum how are you doing salaam i'm good how you doing how's it going how are you doing happy new year what's going down man what are you doing awake at this ungodly hour i was actually watching fast and furious and then uh

yeah alhamdulillah it's been a very interesting couple of weeks man alhamdulillah i'm kind of recovering well now but it's it's been interesting had me out for the count you know i'm not gonna lie i was kind of i was out [Laughter] it's all fun and games that's proper neanderthal mode i was like [Music] how you been keeping yeah i'm not all good all good can't complain i was gonna i was gonna ask you about um there's a lot of aspects in islam which

are stuck in classical islam okay and it's gonna take uh somebody like yourself to actually um bring us out of the dark ages because um i was in pakistan recently and um when i when i listen to you i go back and i listened to her in some of the mosques in the hotels and everything it's it's literally like going into the dark ages and i can understand it for like for example for pakistan and the subcontinent for it to be like that

but for for for the west it's completely completely out of sync like you can't you can't bring like scholars from the uh from the subcontinent madrasas bring them here and then um [Music] and then expect them to connect with the youth because the the youth have basically not got a clue you know this uh some of them who uh are going towards the likes of um um the extremists uh side that either they're even they were extremists

or they are completely lost and i think the the the problem is all our scholars are stuck in classical islam and they haven't not revised islam but they haven't actually looked at islam and said how do we apply islam to the to them to the modern day even like the um scholars from places like dewsbury and um blackburn and other madras madrasas around around the uk that they're still they're not connecting with the youth and and i and i feel that this is how islam

eventually is gonna is gonna fade out it's not it's not being made relevant and relatable to people and and i think you've hit it on the head um you know this it's not so much about it being classical it's about the time islam is for each time and each place it's not to impose a 500 year ago time and place on today's time and place it's for 2020 2021 it's for now

but if we're going to just only be you know following something that's out of sync it's not had its update and i don't mean islam's update because islam at its core is just a it's a simple message of reconnecting of having god in your life but there's a whole fic how to practice islam what to do these things have always been changed with the day and age but the problem is the books we've got today the flick books they too were of their day and age like five six hundred years ago five hundred years ago they were reflecting they were current they were

up to date but we've still got them and they are out of date today and and the movies that you have today they are a lot of them one we don't have rightly placed talent so people who go into studying islam are usually unfortunately society's rejects so that's another problem because the you know it's it's true because what we're doing is we're getting the the kind of sunshine group you know the kind of bottom sets and how we're saying i know it's like imagine we turn them into doctors let's just say we did that

like we got that group of people and put them into medicine you're going to have like let's just let's do that they'd be practicing medicine from 1400 years ago like they'd be doing lobotomy they'd be like no trust me i just gotta take out this piece of his brain it'd be orangy trust me so and then you know the the hatred that unfortunately that is then kind of riled up in the name of religion it's it's a very passionate hatred because you know it's it's one of the most powerful things you can do is tell somebody they've got a license to speak on behalf of god

you know who's gang of mine i mean god's gang you know it's like that's just like next level of power bringing that to the table and and then you've just got even like even like the younger islands like did you did you watch that video i sent you the other night that one now i'm joking

that one i didn't watch no no no [Laughter] this is and it's like you've got their modern day they're fairly modern day scholars and that you're still carrying on the arguments of what their what their forefathers would be arguing over yeah and it's not and you'd think in this country that actually be a bit more civilized but they're just as backwards

as um as people that that that they learnt from and i i i feel that this is how islam is going is going to fade out because the scholars of today like for example i'm more more in touch with islam because of you than the other 25 30 years of studying in other places because everything i was taught before didn't really resonate it didn't really make make sense on one hand they tell you that god is merciful but then on the other

hand they tell you if you're not a muslim if you don't believe in god you're going to you're going to hell but then that doesn't make sense because if god is most merciful and he's always looking for excuses to forgive us how can you say that oh only muslims are going to heaven because heaven's going to be a very empty place if only muslims are going and then you look at the muslims and only at the muslims

are gonna say saved definitely not us guys [Laughter] we're going to be in the bottom set we're going to be in the in the bottom section of the hell it's like scissor fry these people first but it's you know it's true and and this uh this this thing of um you know we are god saved special children just us us and our little gang this is so out of date and you know i want to say something it's so

interesting that you know in the past society was at a stage like humanity was at a stage where it needed competition to thrive so so religion also understood that so we had this understanding of the other so you could you could kind of thrive by competition now what's happened is we are in a very interesting day and age today it's more a you see we have become a global community today humanity can only thrive by cooperation

like take things like nuclear weapons as an example uh take the fact the global economy and the way travel has been kind of like uh structured the way bureaucracy today you can only thrive by cooperating not by trying to wipe out the other that that the day and age has changed so whereas if you went a thousand years ago maybe civilizations to rise needed to compete against and that was the the kind of almost the law of evolution in society that people were kind of trying to out i mean today they're still trying to out

compete in economics and stuff but we need there is a crucial component of coexistence today because it just takes you see somebody pressing one switch and the world could be screwed up the entire globe could could for for all i mean the power of these kind of bombs today is unfathomable what it would do and there's hundreds of them and they would have a chain reaction i mean it's it's estimated that if a certain number of atom bombs went off today it could slightly alter the earth's axis

you know just and by the kind of commotion it would create which is enough for that's it we are in a day and age when now you see it we understand why people in the past had this messiah vision this oh somebody's gonna come our team is gonna win we're gonna overcome them let's do but today we need to be more cooperative we need to work with that vision doesn't work today and i was just discussing this with someone a little while back and i was just thinking that whoa it's such an you know an important factor that we're

not taking into consideration that the whole stage has changed but yeah i i uh i actually think like you because um i swung to a friend of mine and um he he reverted to islam and then and then he left and um i i wasn't actually in in contact with him at the time but um he basically ended up in the wrong hands and they basically said to him he has to um change his entire life literally overnight and i said to him i said um i said i wouldn't have done that i

i would call you to carry on as you are and sl and and and slowly try and implement things into your life because islam was perfected over 23 years you know so you can't expect somebody in this day and age to completely completely give up their whole lifestyle and and and become a saint so people that are born into islam uh aren't saints you know they do everything wrong under the sun so you're somebody who's coming into islam and you're expected to suddenly become a saint and i said to him i said i take my hat off like you said i take my hat off to anybody who ex

accepts islam in this day and age for what it is i said because if i was a if i wasn't born into islam i'm not sure islam i've even said that i've said that look let's just be honest i'm really wowed by people who do embrace islam and and i know people have criticized me sometimes i've said that you know we should stop this obsession with that because to me it's like look if we become better human beings that will speak volumes you know it will like i give you an example this like let's take the uk scenario right now yeah with just this whole brexit thing and the lorries

the whole build up the sikh community went and gave lunger to the drivers they they had uh you know hundreds and hundreds of meals prepared these drivers were stranded and they and they fed them now to be honest that's a very simple concept it's not something it's not genius einstein you know einsteinian idea but it hit the hearts of millions you know what that that two three days of it served so much as an inspiration for people

and it's interesting that we had we have that in our thing you know the first thing the prophet said when people went to medina and said how should we build relations the prophet said why do you feed people you know this will it will bring the hearts closer and spread peace so my point of saying that was that ultimately it's these acts of kindness that are the true dawah it's not like saying to people oh you know god is gonna send you you know if you don't accept this you're gonna burn in hell you're going to do this you're going to

that that day and age is finished you know people very few people will be attracted to something just by you saying oh look i'm going to scare you into it you know if you don't embrace it watch what happens to you when you die and then you know that day and age it's not that platform and then i say when even when these people do make people embrace all they do is to feed on them three months later you know you're a deviant cafe now they chuck them out of islam and with them they chuck out a whole a troop of other muslims so you think well you know what's that

yeah i said to this friend of mine i said listen at the end of the day on the day of judgment they'll have to answer for you uh embracing islam and then leaving islam because and and i said because they went the totally wrong wrong way about it i said the totally um half the stuff they're asking you to do they probably don't even do themselves and um and it's just it's just completely wrong it's 100 i mean i 100 agree it's crazy and it's unfortunate actually i feel really for people who embrace islam even and even muslims who

are born muslims but suddenly embrace the practice you know the pressure that people put on them it's just unfair that they say you know you better do this you better stop this today you better stop that today you better stop this you you're otherwise a deviant otherwise you're not you know you haven't truly embraced you haven't done this and and people do all sorts you know because they they'll um people who have converted sometimes abandon their family people who you know they do all sorts of things by being emotionally blackmailed and they and they live on to regret those ideas but yeah i mean

may allah make this year inshallah a source of blessing for us i mean i think we've had quite a bit of a roller coaster ride in 2020 so we deserve the yeah i said it to a friend of mine earlier same different year but let's hope it comes sugar coated at least or wrapped up in well sid it's been epic talking to you take care of yourself yeah speak soon welcome i'll see you soon all right people was sid always a pleasure

to catch up right we've got i i have shared the link if you want to come on in in the chats there is let me see whoever got here uh all right let me bring on we've got amir i was concerned there yeah i mean i i was concerned as well at one point i thought i just thought is this gonna ever end you know it has this it's funny you know when you look back

at it's not that long uh what is what is 10 days what you know what is two weeks but when you're going through it you know hour by hour minute by minute and it just does not let go of you and and you think you know i'll wake up tomorrow i'll be okay but no and then next day no next day you know and you it starts to break you down mentally you start to think um you start to kind of that's it yeah yeah i i had in march actually so like uh it was pretty scary that i didn't think it was covered though so i think that helped me a little yeah i think i had it then as well you

know i do think that but it just uh it wasn't that bad then but yeah i don't know if this is a new variant or if the new variant is a myth i don't know but this whatever it was i mean this was it was a nasty piece of work yeah how are you doing okay where are you joining us from ahmed i'm from california so socal alright soccer doing it man always a cool cool cool area so share your thoughts or i don't know your comments or questions with us so i have two questions one is pretty quick and then the other one's like kind of somewhat serious i guess so the first

one i was wondering if you could explain what a gungu delhi means i always see those videos you see well kanguteli is uh is a character that's um you know it's it's basically somebody who's a bit of a clown and he over uh estimates his his own worth it's a character but the reason i had kind of given it to uh is because i had said that you know you have uh one because obviously it suits his personality for being the clown he is and over

estimating his worth but two because you had a baba fariduddin and you have like uh who are actual kind of you have these saint figures ganja shakka and you have those and i said well i can't remember i think somebody once said oh baba deen and i said he he has no resemblance to that gandesha but maybe you know something like so it from there we we crowned him this title

if you watch this happy new year how can he see it i'm actually a fan of both of your guys's work believe it or not i take away from both of you oh that's good he's in my he's in my beloved category my beloved so what else is going on so what's the more uh that was the serious question so what's the lifetime people so i was actually wondering um because of everything like going on with kovid like uh it just got me thinking like in terms of um at least in america one issue is happening is that like when they're burying people or some people they're not actually

letting them uh be buried because of covet like they're cremating them things of that nature so i was just wondering like what's the islamic perspective on like what actually happens after you die because i've heard so much stuff in sunday school that like all for like days you can like until they bury the body that you're still aware of what's going on uh all kinds of like kind of weird stuff so i was just wondering like from your perspective and your studies what do we know actually happens and what do we not know like in terms of birth and all those things you see what we understand is that when a person passes away and they have moved on from this dimension so we do believe that life continues

but it's not in this realm as we know it okay so even though the body may still be there but that is no longer it's a bit like i suppose if you want to understand let's say if this world is like a simulation you're kind of out of this now into something else um so the point is some people feel that there's a bit like almost a venn diagram is there this overlap that you are kind of in the other dimension but you're kind of like this ghost floating in that body i don't really i don't think that is the case um but that's how you are i think you're

actually just moved on into another dimension and that body is simply a body it's a shell now um in islam the general we obviously as you as you're aware that we bury now that is that that is the sunnah that is the trend that is what we have been taught now if somebody cremated the body it is it's generally considered not to be from the sunnah of islam to create to burn the body but rather to bury it put it back into

the earth as allah says you know that we have taken you from this earth and we will place you back in the earth so it's a kind of understanding that we know from dust to dust um but that said people could argue well once you burn them you know you put the ashes back into the ground and stuff um and you know they could argue that look well you know the insects and everything just eat it up anyway so what's the difference now the gen my understanding is there's nothing explicit addressing cremation like this somebody

could use the hadith that none punish with fire except the lord of fire but then this is not a punishment you know when people are competing they're not punishing the person so that i don't feel is a befitting example people might use the argument oh well god has sent fire to punish people in the past in some stories in the quran and stuff but once again one could argue that look this is not that scenario you're not doing it as a punishment and the person is already dead so

um what i would simply state is that it is not from the sunnah of islam to cremate okay the sunnah of islam is to bury we bury and that also gives us a sense of a kind of anchor point for generations that come after they kind of come there and this here lies the relics of so and so and you know it gives that kind of uh emotional attachment as well a reminder for those who went after but if a person was cremated let's say they were that has no bearing on that person's uh

existential reality it doesn't mean he's getting punished or something no and in fact there's a very famous hadith that the person asks his children to cremate him and he says because he's worried and scatter is ashes far and wide and and in that hadith he's he's a person who has salvation you know he's saved and he's blissful uh and allah forgives him for everything in that particular hadith scenario so it doesn't have a bearing on that person but it is not from the sunnah i would argue of islam now people would say it is haram

um i mean once again i to me i i don't know whether i would say it's haram but i would definitely agree that it is discouraged and not from the sunnah of islam if there was a medical reason to do it i don't think covid is a strong enough reason really now that we know a lot more about coving maybe when it first began and people were like oh my god how you know is it like ebola is it like what is it is it just a death sentence is it now we know that it's not a death sentence but at that point people are worried so they want to cremate the bodies fair enough if there's a medical reason to do it

i feel that's extenuating circumstances otherwise um it is discouraged and it goes against the sunnah of islam but it doesn't have any bearing on the deceased so it doesn't a deceased person will now go to hell because he wants his body all right people there you go that was some interesting and uh

serious and and light-hearted questions as well my brother kali avraha what does this say mufti milad gang i embraced islam i embraced islam but really was sunni ideology and i was so depressed i i feel sorry for you i hope that inshallah you've now found some peace of mind you know it's not islam islam is beautiful the teachings of islam are are really something to

just give you that gift of god in your life the theme should never be an impediment it should always be a strength in your life if the deen is an impediment you need to question what's going on i was just thinking you know when i was going through this whole covid thing i can't remember you know somebody asked me and i i responded and you that you know it's amazing in islam just think about it this notion we have that alhamdulillah you know it is it is you know if you just for a moment pause and just think about that that you know that even

beginning with this phrase you know lil alhamda allah be praised upon every state you know it's it is a kind of strength that we derive from it to keep going and you know the you people ask me oh you know you're ill many of you may have been ill or maybe many of your loved ones and and and i genuinely say oh you know it's an interesting experience it's interesting you know obviously you know it wasn't pleasant but it was interesting and it's this this this thing that we carry with us that you know alhamdulillah

you know we always we fall back on god and i think that is something that no matter what atheists say you know they can say whatever they want but you know this is something that unquestionably they that any person you know who is truthful would would only state that it is an enviable position to have that we this this source of strength this narrative even if to them it it's meaningless like it's not true to them

to us we do believe in it but it really it is unquestionable that it is a a nourishment of of of figure to really keep going and energy so yeah so i i would say that if the dean is something that is really in making you suffer you need to question that interpretation right let's bring on some guests we've got here what's going on who have we got here we've got shah dahman

in toronto canada you're doing it man the toronto cruise [Laughter] people get really agitated when i do that they go all the devil so i do it even more how how are you keeping chat man yeah i'm doing fine i hope you're fine with your covet situation you know uh i actually my dad's sister as a matter of fact she also caught it like like last week right and then i haven't i didn't i had an uncle as well that actually caught it as well so you know the times are obviously difficult you know it's it's not easy it's not easy i hope you're well you know um i appreciate your concern

right well share a thought or a comment or a question with us since since we've got you here is there something you'd like to share or yeah or just your new year's resolution [Laughter] you know well yeah uh a new year's resolution would definitely be to like read more often you know um get down to a bit more yeah get some books done you know um but yeah that's the main thing i mean i have two questions if you don't mind me and uh asking um it would be awesome i'm sure

exactly and then we have transmissions from like the early self like we have tran like there's a the like you know surah 17 verse 85 where it speaks about when it says right this is a creation of god that which mankind has been given the knowledge of right so i just want to know when the quran says that this we we blew into from our spirit and then we have like in the kitaba cafe from like a shia book you you'll find the the the transmission from jaffras

where he says that the the the creation of god that was something which islam was born off of right the the spirit this creation right so i wanna know what what are your thoughts on on uh the spirit when the quran speaks about this that we blew into maryam from our and my other question would be uh yeah that was my first question if you could just quickly clarify on that that'll be yeah yeah yeah so uh oh were you about to say the second question oh no go for a gopro you could answer this i'll ask you the second question right after all right sure so i mean you see in my understanding that when uh allah is saying things like

we breathe or when he's saying we yes they ask you about the ruach that this is from the what depends how you want to translate it whether it's the command or the affair of my lord now the way i understand it is referring to consciousness now when it's speaking uh about maryam alaihissalam here this in the way i've understood that

is that is more figurative speech about trying to say that um that this it's it's giving it that whole um you know this kind of about the the special status of jesus it's it's symbolic for that so it's not so not everywhere the word ru is being used is it referring to consciousness or the soul as people would say the soul i would refer to as consciousness okay and uh yeah i just wanna know and it is very complicated like so when it is because even today consciousness

is something that still you know we don't understand what consciousness yeah you know yeah no yeah it's it's very interesting um the second question i have is you know when the quran says when it says indeed jesus the son of mary is the messiah and the messenger of god right i don't i'm into understand and stuff you know christianity judaism islam that's my main thing you know so i don't understand the purpose like what does the term meaning like in in our like islam tradition because if you take a look at the

jewish understanding of messiahs that the jews expected a messiah the yahudis expected a messiah to come to rebuild the kingdom of david right and to i guess guide guide the the the guy the bani israel right um and in the the the nasara interpretation is that it's supposed to be a suffering messiah as you see in isaiah 53 and psalms 22. isaiah 53 by the way you're doing it yeah jeremiah the book of you're doing it i like it you know so you know in isaiah by the way isaiah 53 is also a forbidden passage in in israel that the rabbis the jewish

rabbis have covered that up completely because it is supposed to be a mashiach prophecy but so they believe it's a suffering messiah a masada would come to die first that that's a christian understanding so i want to know what what is the what is this muslim understanding of the word so it's very similar to the original meaning as well which is in the bible what it's to do with in essence is to wipe over and that was the the kind of baptism what jesus received from saint john from yahya they say he was kind of anointed um and wiped over so this messiah to do masa

it comes from that's what it simply means but the anointed one they're referring to a pre a prior prophecy that the anointed one shall come you know the one that has been baptized so they had this kind of concept that the anointed one the one who's been chosen if you want um they understood it as that but linguistically it just meant the anointed the person who'd been kind of wiped over and uh he'd been kind of baptized so what when the quran when it says the uh so is the massage supposed to have any role like in you know in the islam tradition

because we know that the jews they obviously in their tanakh they don't have any uh prophecy of like some sort of second coming of a messiah right they believe that it would like come straight up right and if you take a look at the this is what i mean when you speak about the jalan stuff like that right i honestly i am aligned with you when it speaks about how the the word the gel is referring to any sort of deceiver and it's very interesting the jal could be some sort of it's been in second thessalonians which is like a a pseudopigraphic sort of uh letter of paul this this where this antichrist comes from there and this i'm guessing the islamic interpretation interpretation did come from the second thessalonians from the pauline epistles so i i know it

merely more or less is not some sort of islamic understanding so one this is so the the messiah is is he supposed to have some sort of like particular role because we know if we do i know you don't believe in second do you mean do you mean when you came when jesus was with the when he yeah when he was looking or like or in a second yeah so what was the purpose of like uh of like a messiah to come after like you know in islamic interpretation like because you know the jews they expected or to come to come after to come after the second coming the second coming yeah exactly okay what those who believe in the second coming why do they believe in the

second coming is that the like what is that of the messiah is that the question yeah because that's the thing for me right i believe that those who believe that in in a second coming they believe that jesus will come to kind of you see like they believe in a messianic vision that they will be this great uh armageddon this great battle of good versus evil and and good will kind of conquer the whole world we will have eternal peace and there will be the kingdom of god established on earth so to establish the kingdom of god on earth they believe jesus who spoke of the kingdom of god will come back

and he will establish it also from the christian perspective they they believe that jesus told them that i'm coming like when he really believed in him yeah they believe that the three days yeah yeah the sign of jonah prophecy yeah yeah so they believe that well jesus that he will come back the way you know the obviously in their lifetime i suppose the fact that he disappeared uh if people you know it made kind of sense to them that he will show up again suddenly you know he's got a master plan and he'll turn up and and then obviously

after them it just became a a vision for the future but yes no so that's that's it for muslims who do believe that's the the that's the uh why they believe in it or the the rationale behind it and and the quran it makes it quite clear right inimitable figure that allah gave him death right it makes it yeah i i know it is a quite clear one yeah i mean there's nothing in the quran that speaks of the second coming if anything it's inclined towards the not being a second coming if anything but

people would i suppose people i don't know how they try and they can interpret they can interpret but there's nothing in the quran that i would feel objectively inclines that way in fact inclines the other way so the verse like when allah says to jesus that look you know did you tell them to do this to worship and he says that look i don't even know about this he says all i know is that you you know i was with them on earth and then you took me from them and and now i'm just coming to find out about this so but if that was the case that jesus

had come back and then he would have known that the christians obviously worship him and he ought to know this why is he acting so surprised on the day of judgment saying like i don't even know about this so if anything the quran seems to argue the other way but it just doesn't tackle the issue head-on it doesn't speak of a second coming but yeah but those who do believe in it this is what they believe yeah yeah yes yes thank you perfect awesome epic man it's been great catching up with you take care of yourself so much you too thank you alaikum alfred people

well that was interesting let's see who have we got here i've got quite a few people i have shared the link um all right there's uh i see some people are commenting about having some guests on let's see who are they commenting about i've shared the link again

uh who is that doctor who some comment but anyway i've shared the link again right let's see who have we got here all right so go on then [Music] how are you my friend i'm good i'm good where are you joining us from oh from luton

for a moment um because i've seen a couple of videos about more led what's your

sorry i just saw this coming i don't know what that what that means right so mole it uh my kind of understanding is that look if people wanna people who do it you shouldn't really say anything to them just let them do it people who don't want to do it you shouldn't say anything to them yeah just let people be that's my understanding on because i've i've seen a couple of down my videos and he was saying about molly that is uh it's bigger and this and that yeah i mean from okay objectively speaking it is biddah yeah it's definitely not from the you know

the quran and sunnah it's not i mean there's no point pretending it is but that said you know if it helps people you know they wanna you know it makes things easy for them it kind of gives them an opportunity to say something nice learn something then i think yeah sure you know if it helps people and they want to do it do it those who don't want to do it don't do it oh because what's it called um do you so is it permissible do you think it's allowed i i don't think it's forbidden or anything but it's not you see when you say is it

i would say it's prob it's ruling depends what you mean by it now like if you mean the whole procession and the celebrations and stuff that people do but it depends do you not think like generally is considered discouraged yeah so its ruling would be discouraged but if it become the norm in a place where already you know it's now it's already the norm everybody already does it then fine you know you just kind of go with it and because everybody does it anyway and and they're just benefiting from it and they're not um

you know doing anything so as long as they're not doing something so disruptive but if people weren't doing it let's say a place where nobody really does it yeah i wouldn't personally i wouldn't say you introduce it i would just say just let people be so that's my kind of my approach to molly there's a kind of hands-off approach that look people who do it that's fine you know let them do it people who don't do it that's fine um it's technical ruling would be would be makaroo that it would be discouraged here because just

in the sense that it's not an authentic um behavior within islam but it's been so normalized that you know it's not sinful or anything if you yeah yeah okay because like i think uh if you agree and we all agree right when the prophet was born yeah right where everyone is happy he said like of course of course of course so if if you should you should what's it called you should express your happiness do you not think sure i mean this is where i'm saying that look it's not a

i i'm i'm not against molded um i feel that it depends how people wanna what do people wanna do you know like what do they wanna do they wanna do a demonstration in the streets yeah i mean i'm not i don't i personally i would say well it you know it depends on how much disruption these things cause if it causes no disruption you know if you want to go to a park and you want to have a festival let's say let's have a fear at a park i'd say that's good you know fine you know alhamdulillah people want to do that if you want to

shut off the main streets i think that's an inconvenience to people because people have to use these roads you know you can't no like no like no no yeah so if people wanna just at home recite the quran and do stuff it's all good you know there's nothing um i'm not saying you know i say that's fine that's that's good you know and goodness is good but the ruling is different if you want to get technical you see if you just people just ask me a

simple level i say look if you do it do it if you don't do it don't do it that's what i say then if you say no i want to get technical what does the shariah say yeah you know what does the quran was say you want to be very and technical would probably class this as it would class as an innovation and it would put it under a discouraged category because it's not from the pure understanding of islam but you know that's if you want to go there you don't need to go there you can just stay where you were and say look i do it alhamdulillah you do it you know i don't do it okay don't do it

i would say there's no need to argue over it or fight over it yeah you know it's that's ridiculous yeah cool that's the mole thing was there anything else quickly and then i was your opinion when i appeared on the beard yeah do you mean what kind of a beard should we keep no beard i mean the watery piercer beer b subs yeah i mean you know the whole thing about bees and

i think look there are some people who are very good and very pious and very special but i think there's a lot of corruption and abuse that does go on in the name of this thing there's a lot that goes on and i would argue that it it it outweighs the the kind of the genuine kind of people out there so i don't know i don't think there's i think this there's a lot of corruption

that's what i feel you know this whole beef sub thing you'll notice that the beef salt thing is hereditary yeah it's always now that i'm a beer my son is definitely appeared and his son is definitely a peer and his son is definitely you know and it just works like this so we've got let's say got five generations of just saints you know it's like and and people you know they they take people's money they take people's yeah they do a lot of stuff you know it's not just money they they do a lot of stuff yeah some like they even i do like magic and stuff

i mean i'm not so convinced they successfully do that but yeah they probably try but but they do a lot of exploitation a lot of the scammers and stuff yeah definitely a hell of a lot of candles in fact it was just uh two weeks ago there was uh in the news i think it's been two weeks uh it was sentenced in um stoke-on-trent in the uk so ap saab was sentenced to i think they gave him i can't remember you know i think they gave him something ridiculous like 14 years or something but they gave him like a lengthy sentence yeah and his and his wife got sentenced

as well and his i think his daughter and um and there were a whole crew i think a dozen people got sentenced but the piece up got the heavy sentence and it was i'm pretty sure it was over 10 years i can't remember whether it was 11 or 14 but they gave him like a heavy sentence and it was all over this that he was he was saying that no i was you know i do spiritual stuff and this is why i've taken all this money and it was over money and that's what it was over and and they they were just saying it as exploitation and they made a kind of example out of him yeah yeah because i think he's i can't

remember the exact details but i'm pretty sure he was he was very old as it was but they still gave him a very heavy sentence to kind of teach people that look you know we're going to clamp down on stuff like this yeah so yeah okay i was wondering okay that's done right so i was wondering right and what's your like recently christmas happened right so like say if you have a christmas dinner presents or like halloween i mean i my things i've got videos on this and i've got a few uh writings as well on facebook uh i believe that these things don't

carry that okay so halloween definitely doesn't carry any pagan thing today with most people especially in the uk it doesn't um so that's fine and christmas does have more of a christian thing to it but look if people did it i don't think it's haram i don't think it's you know people are just doing it just for a bit of fun they're just doing it because they get time off work they're just doing it because you know they just want a bit of whatever that that kind of family get together and the 25th of december is not christian anyway you know let's be honest it's not really

you know if anything you could argue it's built on mithras yeah you know was born on 25th of december and the whole thing really it was nothing to do with christ so just because they've taken it on then today people are not that christian christian in the uk like people understand so i i don't feel it's haram i don't feel i'm not saying you should do it but i'm saying if people do it i don't think it's it's it's necessarily a problem i think like you know what's the big deal i know some people get really wound up oh my god you've imitated the kuffar you yeah that's what people say they say

oh yeah but to me that you know your iman is much stronger than that and in in honesty i've said this before look there's a lot of islamic practices that are islamic today but that were pagan yeah you know like akiha is a good example uh some of the practices of hajj were definitely you know as many of the self believed were from pagan arabia they weren't from arguably the black stone was part of an idol that was worshiped it's not look just because these things lost that meaning and islam kind of took it with a new meaning a fresh meaning

it didn't associate the pagan thing with it so i would feel similar it's not a problem they don't copy us i celebrate eden stuff so why yeah it's not about playing copycat it's not about making gangs but it's just look if people do it i don't feel it's a big deal uh i don't feel you become a cafe or you compromise your iman it's been good catching up with you take care have a blessed year man i'll be watching so i've been watching your videos for a long long time you know when i really yeah you're such a funny guy like

i appreciate it do you remember to subscribe then and like and share my stuff all right people that was there some interesting questions let's take on um some other guests who have we got here we've got ziyad muhammad alright

[Laughter] speaking to you i've been watching all the videos recently as well and uh very enlightened so i just have one or two questions that you know for clarification in terms of searching for searching for knowledge and one is when looking at the quran and if you interpreting it via the fear of different scholars alternatively looking at it from a literal meaning

how do you go about doing that because of course i mean allah made the quran easy for us to read so it's easy if it's easy for us where do you say this is metaphorical and this is literal for example like in sriracha it says that you can be doing i mean i'm not exactly quoting the verse the phrase by phrase but where you you you you think you're doing well good but you're not so unless you get my question so i think you're asking that like when i let's say we read the quran how do we know which

part is metaphoric which part is symbolic which part is literal how do we know this stuff yeah well i mean they say right okay so this is a number of things yes there is many aspects of the quran that are just very straightforward for people to understand what's being said and there are some aspects that allah does mention that look there is an ibarra there is you know there's a higher uh dimension to certain verses but maybe everybody gets some part of it but those who

are kind of higher more highly able will get more out of it than others um you know uh people of inside people of basir are people of uh people of you know of of of alcohol and stuff like this so there are certain verses that are aimed at more highly able let's say minds now obviously there's there's two things here there's one the common person reading the quran now they would generally on certain things refer to guidance you know there will be certain verses maybe

they don't understand them they will look up or they will listen to what maybe some should have said they will uh you know some of us sit in maybe read it after read some commentary on it now as to the scholars who've who've kind of spent many years of their lives studying the quran so they would have gone over several tafasir right throughout their lives they would have understood stuff so i mean me as an example if you're asking me i obviously memorized the quran many probably about two decades ago when i memorized

the quran i initially memorized it with meaning and tafsir so i originally when i was doing the um of the quran so whatever my daily portion was i used to first of all check all the difficult words through i used to use um i had uh a simple book simple dictionaries quranic dictionaries which i would check up the words and then i had like certain more detailed ones like the mothra data i would check up these words then i would read the english to make sure i've understood it correctly i i had dr abdullah yusuf ali's translation so i would read his

commentary then i used to have access to uh certain tafasia so i used to read ibn kathir uh i had rohlmani so i had access to these four that i was going through whilst i was doing hiv alongside with let's say dr youssef ali's his own the laser valley's translation and commentary then once i'd done that i for us for a number of years every year would go over the quran with a fresh tough seed so i went over most of kortubi i went

over um in one of the years in one of the years i went over nahas nahasis of the quran tafsir i went over i used different tafasir to to kind of go over the entire quran whenever i would be going over for a number of years so that kind of for me gave me a kind of foundation of the quran now what i had from there was as life continues and you go over things there may be certain aspects you might revisit so let's say evolution

now i started to in recent years examine all of this and look into it and i started to look into well what what are the verses that people say clash and let me look at them and now i'm kind of like i'm exploring maybe many tafasir at the same time i'm using my understanding of the shariah which by this state that was just the tough thing obviously when we were studying we studied the sharia we said we studied we studied uh you know hadith we studied the books of hadith we studied uh things like i studied the makassar of the shariah i studied

um a bunch of things that we had to go through each year taking them from a foundational to an intermediate to an advanced level so with that understanding and my current it's a bit like you know you know like psychology will say what is your understanding of the the psychology questions what is the self okay now we might say well islamically it's part of consciousness and raw and whatever but okay to them they're not gonna accept the soul and stuff yet so what is the self so one of the the

theories like the bundle theory it will explain that the self is a number of things taking place that the self is your memory your perception current perception uh it's things like sensation all of these things with a constant feedback loop so you're you're you're kind of feeding back and observing currently and feeding back so you know when i go to get a drink i know that i like this particular drink that is my memory of the self feeding back in which is being reinforced with my behavior and it's feeding back and it's

and sometimes it's creating newer understandings for the self like now i don't mind this you know i'm so in a similar way just taking that model is the the kind of itch the heart that a scholar does with with islam with the tafseer with with things you you're constantly there's this feedback loop but you're exploring so i am exploring several things i will look into certain things um and i think that's also one of the amazing aspects of the quran that it does give you you know if you look at it it's it gives it quenches each person's

thirst who comes to do it with the thirst they carry so i might be looking at it with this understanding of consciousness and this and that and it will quench that for me but you might not be looking at it for that you might come to it just wanting you know just reading on the stories and it quenches that so yeah so that's my but i do believe that it um reason plays a key role in i was just gonna say i was just gonna say that so from the talks that you've given i mean reasoning is something that said in the quran allah says for many reasons for many reason

and uh just coming to the second i mean i respect a lot i find this myself not the non-judgmentalness that you have i come from a very diverse family where there's christians and his hindus my mom's family and so on and so on so i understand their religions a lot and i respect that a lot and uh what i find that hurts me a lot in our religion our country in our town famous town in south africa collodium and if you wonder you should come visit but anyway here our doors always open but um is it is the sec secretariatism

yeah i hate it islam is submission to allah that's number one so i i don't conform to any sect and like for example like you maliki i find it contradictory my view another scholar but right but i i just say islam is one message and all of these things take us away so instead of judging people on what they're doing to worship allah right judge them i mean maybe stop them from doing something that you may be deemed wrong or stop thinking about so so the the last question i'd like to ask you or your thoughts on is

you have like a quranic group the shia group in the swing group right that's predominantly in the entire world and uh i i went through some video of your lectures on bukhari and then i agree with you on a lot of things being sensationalized and being naive and you know maybe being even fabricated as well i only believe there's maybe two islamic colonies and but it's it's it's such a difficult concept for example in my own family unit to just to discuss it with your wife or your kids or how to bring that up with them so to discuss yeah

in terms of my life goes to a very let me pray we call it publicly i know what you'll call it what do you mean okay yeah so you mean like to discuss the sectarian aspect yeah so i'm trying to bring up my family from open mind uh allah judges you alone and all of them are us scholars of great great great uh importance islam but there's no such thing as being a shafi or an affair maliki in my view you're muslim and that's it and that's what you should follow which is the solution i i 100 agree with you and i think that you're

right and it's interesting you mentioned you know south africa surprisingly has some of the most hardcore uh the abundance they're more ha they're more the urban the more hardcore than actual dioband in india and you know port elizabeth i believe is with the modulus uh you know what's his name um what's his name yeah the

he's the the absolute raving you know mad uh kind of the ubuntu scholar that sits there and he runs this thing called the majlis and they're just not cases and and and it's surprising that muslims are such a small percentage of south africa and you think well why this level of sectarianism it's it's more extreme than even with the school originates you know back in india so i i totally agree with you that look ultimately people will always disagree you know people have asked me about look the shia thing about other things i've said look

you got to understand something people are here to stay you know they're not going to go away like the the shia school is not going to disappear the quranic school is not going to disappear or the like they're here to stay so we need to kind of just ex just accept that fact we don't need to agree on concepts but we [Music] we can disagree what's the big deal you know like i i disagree with so many people i'm sure everybody does anyway what's the big deal you know they believe something we believe something hey you know we have so much which we do believe in common as well but we obviously ignore that but

yeah i totally reflect your sentiments yeah this has been great chatting to you now you've been great from your sickness and like i said in the borders south africa some interesting questions once again on sectarianism uh right so who have we got here people what is going on uh zebra is waiting to come on go on let's

at azerbaijas uh your thing is on mute i'm islam hope you're doing good i'm good happy new year to to you and the whole of canada you guys are doing it you're doing it thank you we still have new year's eve going on here just gonna have dinner with my family and then in two hours about but yeah uh wish the best for you uh happy new years everybody um may you all be blessed with unlimited happiness

next year all your prayers come true um it's really nice to see you when are you coming to canada see let's see as they open up the borders why not you know it's when i think about it it's just it's like yesterday 2020 just began and i remember getting this planner and i put all these things up thinking you know okay i'm gonna do this i'm gonna this this month i'm gonna take this week out and do this and and i was speaking last year to i mean now i say last year year before 2019 to a bunch of friends saying you know what how about we go to the us for a couple of days or we do this a week here we travel

but then 2020 just hits us with a series a series of surprises so inshallah this year will be much more blessed for your kind words as always thank you nice to see you i'm going to go take care of you love you inshaallah likewise take it that's all the way from canada alright people i've shared the link in the comments if you do want to tune in there you go i've shared it again just click on it it'll bring you right through who have we got here waiting

in the array in the studio we've got a shawn [Music] shawn assalamu alaikum so i'm going to muff this up how are you i'm good where are you joining us from sean uh i'm from ontario canada and uh canada are you doing it you're doing it uh as well all right sean slick name this shawn is it shawn or is that just the title name

um if if you're writing it in actually be like so what would you like to share with us today my question is regarding your viewpoints regarding i guess the classical doctrine of jihad in islam so one of your one of your guests uh previously jawad

hashmi he has a lecture series on jihad classical and contemporary sort of reform misunderstandings with one of your other uh previous guests khalil and dhani so in that basically his his understanding and i've heard this other places is that the classical understanding of jihad has been like an abrogationist has followed an abrogationist hermeneutic where basically they're saying the later verses that sort of made offensive jihad uh allowed and maybe even mandated pretty much repealed the previous previous sort of guidelines that might

have like a uh what is it just add vellum sort of characteristic where you know you're not you're not supposed to initiate aggression where there are chronic persons that sort of align with that but then but i think classical scholars i'm not sure if it's if it's if it's true in in its entirety but some people sort of characterize that as being as being the case um what what do you see from this from the classical scholarship

with regards to the just if i've understood the question correctly that you're saying well the common or the prevalent understanding today is this uh that a lot of this offensive jihad is mansoor is abrogated is this what you're no no it's what i what my understanding is that the way um most people understand the classical scholars is that the verses in the quran like verses most probably i guess associated with tawba 95 929 that basically as as the life of the

prophet progressed and and that community as that community gained power um basically what they say is that verses of the quran were revealed to mandate offensive jihad or at least allow that and that the earlier peaceful or defensive verses did not did not apply so um yeah um is do you see that as a fair representation of the classical understanding of jihad that that basically offensive jihad is uh is a thing and it's it's one way we can look at it is that you see we can look at

history as it played out and we can kind of maybe uh retroaddictively we can kind of maybe extract this is their understanding of what they were you know what they believed that's one way so if we look at the prophet's lifetime there isn't really an offensive jihad that takes place even if you look at it's really the prophet hearing that there's been that certain armies have been um they've been set into motion and and then they

go and set out preemptively at a particular point where they meet that army but there isn't i'm not sure what jihad you would look at from the prophet's actual magazine that you would say are is a clear um you know an offensive jihad that the prophet has gone out and done now what however that said you could then say that well what about the companions after in the rashidun what about some of them like in omar's time or

in othman's time there's definitely some kind of uh offensive jihad taking place so so i would argue that you know if we look at just the prophet's life we can't it's not clear like you can see that there's definitely the verses in the quran seem to begin with that allah has now granted permission it's now being granted permission those who are oppressed may fight back and then there are certain birthdays that are like kind of you know um that you know

uh inside them to kind of rally rally a war cry and go out and taste the you know and let them find hilda let the the non-muslims the disbelievers who come against you let them find this kind of firmness uh in you and so on and now those verses could be interpreted either way i feel you could interpret them as it's still an ex a continuation of people being uh attacked and bullied and now you have to be this firm resilient community to say no nobody can you know we won't stand up for this anymore

or you could interpret it to say well you know this is an offensive you've got this uh you know you've got this tool now i do believe that look at sharia generally does believe that it has the capacity to do offensive jihad i think that that and i would see it that the sharia sees it like any modern state would see a military capacity that we could uh that if they felt that there was a need to do a military expedition and if they justified it they could do it

that it has that capacity that's that's how i understand it see my sort of intuition i'm not i don't claim to be like a scholar of this um of the history or of the of the you know the sacred sources around this but you know even when you talk about the companion say for example um basically um you know with regard to the the military campaigns um that that occurred um they were basically uh basically i mean that involved two sort of

belligerent and aggressive superpowers of the era right who posed a real military threat um and who were sort of colonial powers in like the the northern regions of wasan and and and basically i mean it's hard it's hard to say um you know to what extent the campaigns were maybe preemptive or and foresaw threats whereas uh you know if we follow the doctrine that some people basically um associate um with

uh you know a particular viewpoint of of uh of what islam is is basically that what what what muslims are asked to do is basically just subjugate uh any um you know non-muslim polity under muslim rule right so basically either you know you convert to islam or you pay jizya now if that was the case my understanding is that that wasn't the case that was never the like so even avocado arbi for example

in his out of the telepathy he will write and he's from like 900 years ago so he would write that it's only a recommendation a statutory recommendation upon the dollar the state to once a year have a kind of military expert expedition and he describes it as a recommendation um not as something which is a sunnah or an obligation in the career so they clearly do they you know they didn't have this vision of this you know we're going around converting everybody to islam or forcing them to pay us the jizya that that definitely wasn't the the there was an early

expansion that takes place so islam where it spreads within the fourth century of islam it pretty much stays that much until now almost i mean it has some growth here and there but not ex you know not something so overwhelmingly different where islam kind of spread within the first 100 years of islam it kind of it's still more or less that today it's it's slightly different but not massively different yeah and my understanding is that uh in the early era there were no and i don't know the full history of this and how long this went on but i

think at least until uh imam malik's time i've heard that people would avoid attacking abyssinia because there was a hadith of the prophet uh with regards to not attacking them until they until they attack you is that is that understand correct are you you know about i'm not sure there doesn't seem to be much of an interest that the um early islam conquests had

and they seem to not really go venture down south they need to just head towards and it's i suppose it's more the day and age has superpowers and it's what the superpowers project but abyssinia by that time was not a dominant uh kingdom anymore as far as i'm aware it was not really something it was seen as having treaties with byzantines so it was still part like under the byzantine kind of maybe protectorate program but it wasn't ace like a superpower so maybe that's why you didn't interest

maybe they did it out of respect like you're saying i'm not sure about that but they you're right they don't head into words that way and when i said it's not spread sorry there's a lot of feedback coming back what it spread through in the first hundred years i meant geographically not in terms of population obviously the population didn't embrace islam until a couple of hundreds of years later but geographically i meant where the the kind of dominion expanded to but cool sean shall law will uh quite a few people

queueing up here will ra if that's if that's good it's been a pleasure uh having you on hearing your thoughts so shukran for that and i will try and look into that question yeah i'd appreciate if you could at some point do like an in-depth video on that and classical understandings to my extent as far as i know you haven't done anything have you done anything on this topic sort of like an in-depth video and looking at like the seed of like surat alba and stuff like that and how i don't relate to it i've answered the question but not an in-depth kind of thing on i haven't but inshallah maybe i'll i'll try and uh do something cool sean take very good

care of yourself people some interesting questions there on jihad our fries been going on a while let's get one two of you the let's see who's who's here in the studio people how are you i'm good i'm good how are you feeling little

how about yourself good so uh let me feel a little more better so i live in new jersey so uh you know you know they must be right yes yes yes regards to you love and blessings oh he sends his blessings i would love for him to come on and have a discussion with him that would be really amazing but

[Laughter] maybe you you're not still 100 okay because [Laughter] but yeah yeah these guys i did you know i say to these people that look let's have a uh let's have a mind trap thing i bring you guys on and we can just talk you know you can ask me questions i can ask you questions and we'll i think it would be it'd be good you know it'd be um

but people they they say no this one this is the devil's deception yeah and surprisingly uh there's another news uh i was i mean i'm from a very uh diverse religious background my in-law he is a tabli my sister she is uh from the al-huda dr farat hashmi i don't know if you know yes i've heard of doctor but then my mama is he's a quranist and he doesn't believe on this hadi's thing that it's it's not dependent on

and it's not the part of the dean it's the history basically so i'm all all confused by uh all of these uh uh opinions and thoughts and i'm just trying to understand my being properly but there are various thoughts and uh my sister she is very much concerned that maybe i'll not go towards the crownist approach and then the other one they say no you don't go there and then you don't go there so and then i was speaking to a mufti a few days back and i sent your video to that mufti because he was claiming that uh you know you cannot if you reject hadees

then that means you're rejecting quran so i had that video and uh on where you uh recorded a video on a transmission a proper transmission and uh so that's what i sent it to that mufti and he goes you know the pleasure we get from this misguidance where are we going to find that same pleasure in guidance

no look you see this there's a misunderstanding that people have people have this ultra black and white perspective and if you look at the the true self they they were much more dynamic they did not they did they were pillars and representations of hadith imam ali because one of the greatest muhaddiths that ever lived i mean he's you know classified as yet he will teach you to reject sahih so he says that and it's his famous teaching

the look that this one-on-one invention will snatch the deen from in front of you that we go with the living tradition he would say that what is a thousand from a thousand lived and practiced now imam abu hanifa his mother the same thing it doesn't it doesn't mean that these people were anti-hadith but they were hadith relativists hadith they weren't had these dogmatists so they understood that look many hadith come to us they're strange you know we don't know just because people were making hadith up sometimes people were miss

they weren't making them up they were mistransmitting them sometimes they may just change the word sometimes they may appropriate it to their own understanding now it's not enough to say that look you are a trustworthy person so this must 100 be what happened because even trustworthy people can misrelay things you know they're not it doesn't in fact imam bukhari will have many discussions on people you know that that reward that he doesn't accept and they disagree on reward he will say this person is acceptable another person will say it's not

acceptable another person will say you know you could say smiling your ways some people say he used to fabricate hadith now this so there is as a there are levels of each tihar taking place so i would say that look we have the living tradition we already have things like film we already have things where islam has been documented you don't like hadith or just hadith is a database

we go to you will find interesting hadith in there you will find some that are irrational absurd and you know there's no way they're from the prophet so that's fine you don't need to force yourself to accept it just because it's in a hadith book that does not mean you reject hadith so there's a difference between rejecting hadith with the capital h as in i don't accept any hadith and saying i sift through them to see if they are valid matanan and islam you know so both the mutton has to make sense and

then we'll look at these nod can we call this as an historical uh record rather than saying it that this is the part of our deen i mean it is a historical record you're right there's a um the way i see is it's like a database we've got a database and you don't use the database to you know to to learn islam you learn about islam through already because islam is already being written about you know you don't need to go to abu dhabi and learn it you don't need to go to sahih muslim however these things are

there to maybe you know if people want to research they want to go into something well what what do we have in our reservoir and in the reservoir there's going to be some things that are sound some things that are not and you could sift through them and think well hmm that's interesting that's not what i would say is that if something does not gel with the foundations of islam that is already problematic that is you know so the way we accept something is it does not clash with reason and this is by the way the mahathir have said this i'm not inventing this you know

all these people have written this it does not clash with reason it does not go against the quran and it does not approve an islamic principle but yeah yeah but one more question of the uh which was actually kind of a confusing for me too and somewhat logical as well uh but can we understand quran from quran and uh uh we don't need to rely on a history or the mass transition and is this within itself is a complete source to understand our deen

i mean sure i look i accept that it's not see i suppose there's so many ramifications to that question um you see i i do accept that there are several things within the quran that without history we wouldn't have no like we wouldn't have a clearer picture of what's going on um and really we only learned that through the whole historical context and you know like let's say it's talking about a particular battle now what battle is it talking about what's going on what were the circumstances that the quran won't go into exact

details but we might know through history that okay this is what happened this is what it was um there will be sorry to cut you but mostly do we need need to know that history where referring or that part can be rather or maybe when we say that we depend on our history it's basically our own comprehension that we're to understand those ayats properly and then we rely on those uh historical uh probably records or those sonar the mass transmission sure i mean what i would say is that you

see what it depends what you're trying to take from the quran okay so it depends what a person you know a person could just say look i'm i just recite it i just do this and you know i'm not trying to do much then i think that's fine the if you were trying to do research into a certain aspect of the quran trying to expand on its understanding uh i feel you you would be kind of forced to especially on several parts on look into other contexts to build up

that understanding of what's what exactly is being said here so because the quran by its nature is is kind of free-floating you know it's not like it mentions something but that's it and then it'll just go on to something else and these little stories or little things are just floating around they're free-falling now it's the greater context that gives it some and i i suppose if you don't want to do that if a person says look i don't want to you know i don't want to read anything else i just can read the quran fine i don't think there's any there's nothing against that

saying that you know you you can't just read the quran of course you can just read the quran on the same token i feel that look there is this plethora this great rich resource that muslim scholars have worked very hard to kind of preserve over the centuries uh which is a whole you know it's it's it's it's a reservoir of things in there like so we've got descriptions of the how to practice fatah hd we've got hadith documentation syrah

and i would say that this reservoir we don't need to drain it like as in just get rid of it um i i would say i'm very grateful and it provides valuable insight um but yeah we need to sift through it we need to kind of you know see that sometimes some things will you know they'll come across meaningless and you know we need to question that uh and and this this methodology of questioning it also comes to us from the reservoir like people like imam malik people like abu hanifah teach you that look we don't just blindly we're not hadith

dogmatists that is from that same reservoir they are teaching you that it's not so me as a person i would definitely say that you know we we don't just drain this reservoir and get rid of it just for the sake that look it's got several things in there that are messed up i would say it's fine to kind of sift through it but if a person felt that look no i'm you know i'm in my life i'm only going to read the quran and there's nothing obviously the quran is the backbone of islam you know it's not that's not a wrong it's not a bad thing you know that's obviously the person is

saying they're going to read the quran if they can do it successfully you know hats off to them more power to them you know if a person says look i'm coping fine you know i don't have a a problem i uh you know it's like ibn hasan he never accepted kriya's analogy in sharia and you know imam shatavi speaks about him in his and he says he says look say whatever you want about the man but he at least produced an entire corpus of the shariah without

having the need to resort to kriyas like so you know he at least did it you know so if he can do it more power to him you know okay i do as far as analogy is concerned i think it's a valid tool to have in the sharia app so i will use it but if somebody says look i can get by just fine without using it and if somebody says look i don't need uh hadith or fear or whatever or maybe occasionally i might just delve in here and there but for the most part i can get by you know i'm just gonna i can get by by just reading the quran and doing things i can

do it listen people may object but let's say they can however they manage to kind of derive some understanding and they managed to delve you know bring out principles and do something and get by fine you know more power to them it's not you know at the end of the day still our book is the quran it's not like it's not at the end of the day they're not saying you know disrespecting the quran they're just saying i want to solely rely on the quran the general orthodox view is we do embrace the sunnah as well that is the orthodox view yeah because i was uh listening to one of your uh uh arguments

with uh the turkish guy uh the turkish person yeah yeah i don't know his full name uh [Music] that was a very very interesting conversation between you and him the question that was raised in my mind listening to that conversation that what evidential proof we have uh about the sunnah that before the before the prophet salallahu those five prayers and the hajj was performed the same way that it is performed right now what is the

evidential proof and this is pretty legit and is this the same there are variations in that you see the way i would see it is more from a rational perspective that you see to me it's it's very rational and real that if revelation was being taught by the prophet he would be also answering their general questions like that is a very you know it's like let's say i'm doing a meet up now and people are asking me stuff now it's that's because whenever somebody is

doing something people will ask him and they'll ask him much more than the actual thing so that's a very reasonable thing to start with so it's very in fact the opposite would be irrational to think that there was revelation and nobody asked questions so it's very so from reason we would understand that there would be more teachings than what the uh than just the quran that from a rational viewpoint you would understand you see me anyway i that makes perfect sense to me that they would be so when you begin with that concept

you then have like when we look at what we already have collected like we have felt so the first is the the living tradition the practice of islam now it is true i do feel that if a person tried to dismiss the entire tradition i feel they would have an incredibly difficult job trying to build up a tradition by just basing it 100 on the quran because just by the very nature of the quran that it kind of free floats it doesn't kind of anchor into a particular geographical location or even a

particular time or a particular it doesn't really give much away about itself so but if somebody managed to do it by twisting this and let's say the extracting principles and you know coming up with every time you know i've looked at these verses and i've come up with a rule and this rule is this and now i apply this rule over here and i and then basically what they're doing is just inventing a fill which okay fine this is why i said you know more power to them but we already have ferc i don't feel we need to reinvent everything i feel that okay we may need to just filter through some things

and bring it up to sync like you know up to date i don't feel we need to wipe the whole board and say i know let's start fit from scratch there is one thing uh which i was trying to understand help me if i'm not making any sense here but uh see you know that the history there are lots of deceptions in history and lots of things are concocted there are contaminations and there are variations of different thoughts and they're also generating more secretarianism based on various uh you know and all coming from the history right

so we don't have a uh like if we even rely on a history we have more the chance that's how i see to to contaminate our understanding towards the word of allah for example what i read is that malik has total around 300 to 500 ahadis and they were the closest to prophet muhammad sallam but now there is another uh what's that's compiled by dr zakir naik uh where he tried to compile all the all the ahadis together and and there come up to

be total sixty thousand and out of those sixty thousand there are fourteen thousand that are uh sahih and uh that forty six thousand there are uh a little less than say so i don't know i mean and they're calling it as a word of allah so okay now you see now this is the thing this is what i'm saying that what i'm saying in the beginning right you see you don't need like i feel that what you've got is an extreme action and then this is an extreme reaction to that action i don't feel either one is moderate like i feel that they like if somebody

is to say that let's say they're dogmatists they have a very puritanistic perspective on faith and they apply that to the like selfies do to hadith now that is an extreme perspective that is not how when we look at our own legacy that they actually teach us how to do it some of them may have done it like this but a lot of the the key people didn't used to advocate that method so okay they're doing this so if you're saying the what we do is we do a complete 180 spin and we say let's just jettison everything throw it in the bin

right because there's some falsehood in it right like okay but i feel that's an extreme reaction to an incident like you're saying well you know they i agree that look hadith definitely have many truths in them you can't like we can historically know this and we know that many there are several hadith that are are false so one way is to say well every single hadith is that's an extreme and i feel the other way is an extreme reaction to that to say well let's treat every single hadith like it's false and

just throw every single thing in the bin because history has been contaminated um i feel that both are like i feel that's an extreme puritanist kind of approach and i feel this is just to me it's a cop-out i feel we can do it um so but fine if to some people they can't do it and they feel that you know the only way i can cope in islam is by not having any of this um i like to me it wouldn't really make sense because i think that we've got

plenty of fatawa to show that scholars have coped uh despite this you know resource and reservoir so i don't but still if you know if it makes life easier for someone and that's the only way they can cope fine like i don't see but i don't think to me that the whole thing we need to drain the swamp so to speak as in everything is contaminated and you know it's radioactive and i don't think so i think there's still a lot of good things we can still extract uh from our resources but cool i thought i think

you know it's we've got quite a few people i'll try and get some on it's been a pleasure speaking to you take very good care of yourself and have a blessed year inshallah our people some interesting discussions we've been going on quite a while let's uh just try and do a few quick uh let's try and get a quick word in with some people we've got faisal here waiting for faisal assalamu alaikum alaikum is

[Music] well share your thoughts or whether you have a question or a comment with us oh man i have so much i've been following you know so i've got like a million questions i'd like to ask and one thing is um you guys were talking earlier about um you know the quran and miracles and maybe i can give a sort of moderate perspective i have on so i agree with you that you know miracles in islam don't make sense in the traditional you know meaning of the word right in

terms of the quran being a miraculous sort of text i think maybe one way you can look at it is for example you have a range of ancient texts that we can pull from like whether it's socrates and ours or it's like the ancient egyptians text you know book of the dead or it's like torah bible whatever right i think every single ancient book you look at you can find explicit mistakes in them that you can you know spot explicitly and you can prove the mistakes in them and quran seems to be the only sort of medieval or ancient text that it's not possible to do it right even though people obviously there's a big discourse on it

like the deeper you go into trying to disprove it it kind of almost fights back right and proves to be right in many different ways and i feel like some type of miracle 100 and i've said in the past that you see the quran is a miracle in the sense of what it mobilized you see the quran what it did was it mobilized an entire people it served as the backbone it to the reciter it created an experiential feeling uh that that inexplicable kind of

sentiment which carried that person forward it it it's miracle in that sense is is i feel undeniable uh what islam islam has really just been carried the backbone to islam has been the quran the the very concept of the book has mobilized an entire nation i absolutely agree with that but what all i was saying earlier on was that look you see there's two ways to go about this one is as we are speaking now as muslims we're saying you know this is look at what this book has done is mobilized and um

look at civilization the whole thing is served as the backbone it created that this kind of this award if these emotions of iman in people and it hits the reciter the listener the way it hits them the kind of key fear that it creates within them is is no short of a miracle and that is absolutely sound and i was saying that but that is still a subjective uh kind of experience and i accept that it's subjective but i'm saying to me subjectively it is no short you know it's no less than a miracle it

is a a miracle you know other books other things won't hit me that way but it is true somebody could make a claim that something hits them that way they could say i mean i you know somebody could say that look i've you know something has done and now we could argue that well you know let's say somebody said beethoven hits them a particular way now that music but beethoven wouldn't have mobilized the nation and achieved all these achievements but what i all i was simply saying is that and i didn't really you see the problem i i didn't like to

break down the other person's argument because it kind of put me almost it's like pitting me against the quran which i'm obviously in that position and this is why i wanted to uh i think there were some comments as well but this is why i wanted to just stop that discourse because i felt that look i don't i'm in a position where i'm uncomfortable being in this position because i'm trying to show something but it's making me sound like i'm speaking against the quran and i don't want to be sounding like that so but all i was simply saying is that you see yes to us we can say it's a miracle but we have to be

uh we we have like if we're being objectively fair we can't on a level plane say that this will be a miracle to let's say a chinese person because to them they they will probably say well first of all don't understand arabic secondly i don't understand what your you know what is this miracle and so and even if we say well what if they learned arabic they might say wow it's amazing it's you know it's got a nice rhythm to it but i don't see the miracle like somebody could there's many atheists arabs there were sort of um more objective ways of defining

what the miracle was for example for example there's the uh sort of historical accuracy that uh with the story of joseph and calling the pharaoh firaoun as opposed to um uh king right uh malik and there's that sort of historical accuracy that's now being proven correct right yeah things like that could be absolutely i agree with you that there's that one could say uh i personally you know personally to me one of the greatest miracles of the quran is the fact that on so many occasions it could have blatantly said something

which today would have been factually inaccurate but it stopped even where it entertained the myth it stopped short of saying it so so for example now people may not you see the examples i choose which are miraculous to me may not resonate with people but to me so for example yeah like even the virgin birth but even evolution even how whenever humanity is mentioned uh an offspring adam is never mentioned but when adam is mentioned he's mentioned separately how there's so many things where it would have been

so easy just to say it like because everybody back then would have just accepted it but the quran still stopped sure from saying it and i feel like even when it came to this thing like you think about it to me rule is consciousness now it could have just given this understanding it's a ghost you know it's this this spirit that floats around inside you it could have just said it like people would have accepted it i mean that was a widespread thing back then but it didn't and this the fact that from in that era you see to me it's the absence

of these fallacies that is the miracle and 100 and i agree with you know you could say these little things uh they add flavor to that like well you know yusuf ali salaam he's addressing which most likely with the hixos kind of kings back then um he's not addressing him as pharaoh now this is a certain thing that could be substantiated or maybe some other little things like that in the quran little stories where we can get an indication and say well oh that's interesting uh how could have it known this and i feel these things add flavor

absolutely to that miracle but i was just trying to be fair in saying well you see you couldn't say to someone that isn't a muslim look well because this is said this this is the undeniable truth that there is a god uh and because to to the non-muslim they could say well well well okay that's nice but you know it doesn't it it's not a you know it it it's not a absolute kind of it doesn't completely determine something for them it's still there's that subjectivity so i can't build a comprehensive argument with

just that i i do agree with that yeah that was my point in saying it i wasn't uh and and this is why it's uncomfortable addressing it because you're kind of fighting the devil's advocate corner and you're thinking well you know almost against and i'm not and i do you know in miracles i've said in the past that i kind of feel that there is divine intervention but i feel that there is uh i've given the example of the copenhagen interpretation for quantum physics i i've i've said that that is a very good analogy that you see when you observe the

subatomic world it collapses and miracles in a similar way i feel that divine intervention happens but not observed and if you observe it it can't happen it's it's the way the world just works and it's a kind of analogy i mean we don't understand why the subatomic world works like that if you watch it it just doesn't work uh it works differently if you don't watch it works differently and they call you know so the observer collapses is it almost like the sort of uh gazillion occasionalism then how he says you know every moment is kind of recreated in this kind of

story that we that we see and then maybe god kind of intervenes momentarily in some of those moments but i uh to me it's a bit different like i would feel that the divine intervention that this strata this kind of like layers two things but they still fall within the realms of this world and its laws but they may be highly unlikely but it still happens but it's not going to be something outside the strata altogether so so for example somebody could survive a plane crash now it's highly unlikely that it was possible but it's not

a scientific impossibility so it wouldn't be like and it's not about resting it upon science it's not about giving science that you know science is something divine but the quran itself tells us look you want to learn about god look in the creation around you learn allah says that you want to see how creation began sir look uh observe nature why is god telling us to observe something unless there is a constant because otherwise it would be useless if that nature kept changing then god telling us to observe would be silly

so yeah that was my uh i think this is a false dichotomy of religion versus science you know it's the way the classical scholars of islam understood that these things are complementary there's nothing you know it's not faith versus reason or faith versus science it should be that faith is really compatible and built upon our understanding of science is just the observation of the world around us that's all and that was the classical definition was hikmah they would call it jicama wisdom but yeah the modern scientific

method was developed by hassan ibn health and hayden yeah yeah exactly and and you know even though it's been popularized with francis bacon and stuff but muslim were using these kind of methods and spoke of them but yeah faisal much love shukran for tuning in i appreciate your your words and questions take care thank you thank you right all right salaam alaikum alright people well we got to start wrapping this up so it's we've been going on way too long here i'll tell you what let's get one two people in i'm sorry if i can't get uh all of you in here i'll tell you why

let's get a quick first of all we've got emmy here i take it let's add emi they come happy new year um [Laughter] what about yourself doing good i i wasn't expecting to be honest no i'm backstage but i'm just chatting with some people well i thought i'll just bring you on

say happy new year and do the greeting take the ashervat from you glad you're feeling better and uh hope you have a great prosperous 2021 inshallah we can uh we can meet soon again absolutely uh existential angst okay i think a meeting is due with you to go over definitely in the right direction you know what i mean don't worry about it man i'm here in this pit of inferno

i could i could do with some company down here you know it says on the gates i suffer we suffer i'd be a pleasure inshallah we definitely do that catch up and um either in person more that would be even better if not then virtually we'll do a catch-up man imran take care of yourself have an awesome happy new year wherever you are don't party too hard man i know you guys chilling all right see you man allah

oh what happened here we just one person off next person on hassan ali younis it do and he came straight on they look at that must have been divine intervention machado do you like to share a quick thought or a question or a comment uh with us i don't have any questions

but recently there was a guy that made a video that is a person i didn't like there was a guy that made a video about you recently called um did you see that video on bukhari gate no i saw somebody i think one two people watched it and they kind of sent me a link um i did ask that did he really tackle any of the questions and they told me now he didn't really tackle him and he just said something about well uh my questions need to be questioned yeah which

you know i thought well okay but the questions are sound questions you see my question is very simple in stating that look you've made a claim you need to prove the claim you see you don't need to prove why you have a right to question something you have a right to question anything like it's the claimant who's making a claim like a person says look sahil is 100 sahih this is my belief this i profess this claim now it has the right to be interrogated you can't say to the person wait a minute why can you interrogate me

you you know why why can you interrogate no but that's because we have the right to question any claim and then i've presented certain questions i've presented questions on saying well what about the problems with the manuscripts what about the problem with uh ferrari for example how do you get around that what about the problem of the variance variations and then what about the problematic hadith so these are the main kind of things that i've rested my questions on bihari gate on so i'm happy if somebody can answer it i'm more than happy i i know they can't answer those some of those questions because

nobody in history has answered them like the thing of thought of robbery just can't be done it's not something you can i can just invent today the time has gone so i would like to see how we could answer it somebody said he was uh in the comments i did i didn't see him in the comments but somebody said he was there i did share the link but he didn't come on so yeah i asked him to come on but i don't know sure not a problem well cool hassan shukran for sharing that with us was there anything else when when's your merchandise coming out

inshallah soon soon very soon now now that 2021 is here it's got to come out very soon so watch this space on youtube there's going to be some merch and nothing nothing a merch coming out very soon right hassan take very good care of yourself and remember to subscribe and share spread the the love and the fit and the facade alright people right let's have uh i think like that a quick um we've got an a72 the man we've got the man on here people should we bring on the man are we ready to have the man on here

assalamu alaikum so what what's what's your name and where are you joining us from oh my ibrahim uh i'm from southern california

we're still from 2020 we have five hours to go right here so it's awesome so in many ways i'm talking to you from the future so what would you like to share some thoughts thank you for your emphasis on reason you know this is a this was like the most revolutionary idea i mean i'm only 17 so i mean there's a lot of revolution going on right yeah no if you hadn't said that i would never have guessed you know you look very mature

yeah so so i had a question on um so it was interesting how like i discovered your channel so the first i i saw like david wood videos and i was like bro this guy is insane he this is incorrect but you know i didn't have the the tools to really like you know um uh refute him in my mind at least so you know you go to read response but then freed responds he's like oh go go read akida you know and then like and there's some insane stuff that i found in the akita of like the selfie stick uh so and then

and then i came to you and i was like wow finally i'm on it i'm on it so i had a question regarding the bible and how the bible kind of uh yeah david wood how um the bible kind of refers to god as like the father or um you know in this like uh sometimes the analogy is given like he's a husband to the jewish people you know this idea and then in in the quran you know this it's

god allah is not given in this interpretation you know uh so could you give some thoughts on that like did god because yeah go ahead yeah i think like what it is is that at different eras like there were certain um kind of ideas that were floating and it gelled well with a certain people so you have to remember that you see for the israelites at that time this thing of uh the father yeah um especially

yahweh another name that's given which was kind of incorporated from the middle eastern um deities that were already there from the house of el and and these names are all adopted and you get this kind of thing that look you are the children of israel and and then by extension you're the children of god you know not i'm not a physical the jews didn't think they were basically the children of god but it's that specialness and this kind of bond but then you kind of see with time uh how the father thing is kind of then taken out of uh it kind

of goes out of hand with jesus you know yeah exactly and hence you see in in in islam which follows that that metaphor is kind of avoided altogether uh even though one could say in some parts of the quran you know allah does say that you know are you if you if you claim to be up now you know the children of god uh you know and his to the israelites because they still had that kind of concept then okay why don't you you know claim such-and-such or desire death or desire this or desire that but to the muslims it's not used you

know of course not said like you are abundant um but uh that's my my understanding is it's because that kind of what had happened in christianity was avoided just not to yeah to add more applications if i may add on to this does this kind of add on to your idea of free will so i went to like a video from like four years ago and you were talking about how there's alternate realities you know that are going parallel to ours um so and um was i thinking so does god like

is he kind of pragmatic in this is he like a little bit reactionary so there's like a univ an alternate universe that's going on where jesus like the christian faith is completely different okay and and just you're saying i say i say this in an older misunderstood but my understanding was that you were saying there are alternate realities uh to to this reality hmm but by but what um am i when i'm expanding do i expand in that video on what those realities are when i'm saying

i'm not sure uh i was going to ask you like like do you think that all possible realities are manifest or like reality our little universe is with going on with yeah well for example like me picking up this card there could be different like maybe i could have burned the card right so are all the realities manifest right okay i

i personally i don't think that that is the case i don't think that there is a a kind of play of multiple dimensions or parallel universes um you know in sync with each other so so i'm sitting here and i'm in another there's another me over there maybe every decision i got left here that person goes right and you know maybe whatever something like this or um i don't think that's what's happening you rejected entirely uh yeah that said is it possible that there are

um is this concept entirely do i feel it clashes with islam i don't think it would necessarily be 100 in contra like i don't feel that if somebody did believe that that they were no longer that's incompatible with islam um i don't think so i think you could find certain verses or certain things that you could kind of draw like that hadith that you know there are multiple that hadith that there are multiple worlds and in each world there is an adam like your adam and anor

like so one could derive but people have said the hadith sahih whatever but one could say well there's uh you know there's a verse of the quran which that hadith is allegedly an explanation of where you know where allah has created women they created seven heavens and from the earth like of it as well and then here people said well there were seven earths then because what is that reverse referring to another people might understand this to mean something else but it's a bit vague but uh this hadith is allegedly an explanation of that

in saying well there are many earths and each earth then has an adam like your adam and so on so i feel if people i don't feel that the belief it's incompatible entirely with this i don't like if you're a muslim and you believe that i don't think now your islam is invalid i think you could still find interpretations to fit it but i don't personally think that there's you know many me's over there like doing different things and stuff um no i don't i don't believe that although it's a different discussion is there intelligent life out there

that's a different discussion um and i feel you know it's like some ulama they may have belonged to different sects but had argued that this reincarnation right yeah and they'd use the quran to show it of course it's like a fringe type of uh yeah but my point was that you see by using several verses they could substantiate that saying oh well look this verse means this this verse so sometimes you can many beliefs can be kind of fitted onto the quran like it can kind of reflect many things um

but yeah so that's but i think i'll have to watch the video again but i think when i'm speaking of reality i don't know exactly which video you're referring to but uh i i think on many things i explained that reality isn't what we perceive it to be oh so i i don't know it could be a different clip but i i have explained that on a few clips where i've said that for example reality uh there is no such thing as color there is no such thing as uh you know like a lot of things they exist in our

mind okay and we are kind of perceiving them you know it's that same thing that well if you know if a tree falls and nobody make a sound right you know the the the same philosophical question and i've said that well allah doesn't address us in the quran with objective reality he addresses us with this inter-subjective reality that we have because if he addressed us with reality at its core we would just disbelieve because it wouldn't resonate with us like we wouldn't be able to identify with it so yeah cool i i mean maybe

that's i maybe the video that you're saying i'm speaking about something else i'll have to listen to it but but ibrahim it's been epic man shukran for tuning in i appreciate it uh for all the love and support take very good care of yourself have a a happy new year inshallah all right that's it i'll take care manilla speak soon

arrive well people's people's peoples listen uh and okay after let's have a quick bring him on it's getting late here after him your mute your thing can you hear me yep i can i can assalamu alaikum how are you um i am joining actually i'm in toronto right now i'm based in new york um so yeah

i don't know maybe a thought or a comment or if yes i'll be i'll be quick i'll be quick going on quite quite a while so i have to kind of wrap it up absolutely i i really appreciate um all that you're doing uh for our community um and taking the time out of your day every month to do this for us so i appreciate that um so i noticed you know you're very uh well into uh the poetry scene the creative space me myself i'm a musician and uh i um i i find inspiration through your thoughts and your whatever you have to

say um and i was just wondering is there anything in the um quran or sunnah that i can um basically um use to get inspiration to you know create music or just and any advice that you give to any creatives out there that may be based in um you know some stuff i know it's a kind of an awkward question but i can't access any other blogs so yeah because i you see i i would feel that things like music or even art

or these kind of you know these fields they to me would be an expression of something within yeah i don't feel that music music is definitely not hard on um and i feel that if anything you see music is simply the rhythm in in in many ways it's mathematical mathematical rhythm but it's a rhythm and the fact if anything the quran is not music but it does have a rhythm to it

and that rhythm is designed in a way it's propulsive it is the purpose it's why the quran was a quran it was a recited recited text it wasn't like the previous texts that were just something like a message it was to be recited because of how it moves people and and i feel that that notion in itself is very inspirational to take into other forms even to take him to music or to take into art or if people are into poetry or whatever

they they create it's you see it is if anything what a person can understand is that allah has given us a very limited spotlight on this globe okay and he's kind of put us there and he has breathed a magic into us which makes us these kind of conscious beings that we are

and that spotlight is finite it's not you know it's not going to be there forever on us and in that time we can maybe not only capture a bit of that light but beam it back and maybe others that will come after us and and to me that is one of the greatest things you can do and people will do that in different ways you know not everybody will be a philosopher not everybody will be a musician not everybody will be a poet not everybody will be an artist not everybody but we don't meet and everybody doesn't need

it's what resonates with you and comes from the heart will touch the heart so you know you don't need to fake your field but what you what what gels with you you can kind of beam that back out at people inshallah and i feel that that is the greatest islam is not here to impede our skills or our abilities and we should never be kind of dismayed by people who tell us oh this is haram this is this this is this it isn't uh you know okay to you know they've got their interpretation but we shouldn't be

kind of dismayed by that the as far as music is concerned it is something that you know at the very core of the cosmos it is ultimately if according to one theory it is almost like the vibration of strings you know there's a vibration in the core of the cosmos and we can understand that to mean as allah says that look that everything it kind of hums his praise but you just you know a lot of kahuna just be home you won't understand it you can't fathom it but it's happening all around you

in the cosmos so yeah that's my message if um hopefully it resonates inshaallah thank you so much you're very welcome after you take care over there have a good year hopefully you know in the next few days you can take those deep breaths again for those breaths inshallah take care man all right take care people it's been absolutely epic um i was just reading was that like with em right okay one last one and this is a wrap uh we can't take

long here we've got somebody um oh he's disappeared that's a sign we've got omar bashi go on then the last one and then we gotta wrap this up how are you i'm good where are you joining us from i'm joining you from cardiff oh you're doing it you're doing it i'm originally from iraq actually but i've been living here for a while um yeah i've came to actually by a way of a friend um who um encouraged me to watch stuff and i agree with a lot of things and what i like

really about what you do is um you encourage reasoning with the um with with um iman and and i think that's some i feel like it's discouraging nowadays but um it's it's really important um even down from um i don't feel familiar with the poet very long poem called the nunes of course of course of course i love that poem and um and in it he really emphasized the critical thinking and and so on um actually a couple questions one of them um in terms of earlier talking about the miracles of the quran

um what's your thoughts and because for me as an arab and arabic is my mother tongue and i really study um pre-islamic arabic a lot like poetry um and stuff like that wow um what's your thoughts on the miraculous nature of the quran very look at that comment right there you look what a handsome young man you're doing it any single people and he's got a poster of wanted dead or alive right behind him yes all right so okay the arab of the quran yes

yeah as in because like there's a lot of stories in arabic and um for example of the quran how the arab word is like perfect and that's for me was the miraculous side of things um what's your thoughts on that uh wait just to be clear when you're saying arab of the quran you mean the arab is the miracle or is that i don't fully understand the it's perfectly in arab you know like how in poetry sometimes there's a problem with the poem right linguistic issues in arab sometimes whether it be

and stuff like that and then or linguistically in the actual sentence yeah no i i agree that the quran is is very amazingly i mean it's so sublimely kind of balanced out um it has a rhythm to it and the arab unquestionably uh is um i'm just trying to think that from the angle of um you see it doesn't adopt any lagen per se like that like the and you know for the poet they often say there's a

a kind of license here jews that the poet has that poetic license that he can just give a kasra or give a stretch wherever he needs it the quran doesn't do that and that is true yeah the quran generally doesn't do things like this um because there's a there's a story of uh imam and he was at the khalifa of his time in his metrolis and he recited something from the quran and there was a bedouin man and he accidentally recited something wrong a word and the bedouin one is not the half of he's not memorizing of the

never memorize the quran but he could point out where he was wrong just purely based on what he was saying linguistically did not make sense um so that's just one thing i want to mention um i'm just trying to read here just um yeah so that's that's the one thing i want to ask you about i mean i agree the only thing could be that i don't know if we could prove the miracle nature by just saying as an objective form by saying look it's got uh because of it's the voweling because one people might say well obviously the quran

is 1400 years old so people back then would have spoken that high arabic so it would be expected that the arabic would match but um some people could this is a little uh i don't obviously agree with some of the bossaryn they used to overdo it but some of the bossarin did find arab issues with some of the rewards of the quran so abu uthman al-mazini was one of the uh the kind of

bossarin he they criticized nafio for saying he was a jahil with arabic and he because he's not a true arab that's why his is they they faulted his get out with the arab they also faulted a few other in fact you can get a book called um i've got it's not even a big book it's called something like an art or something like this and they will uh with they faulted the grammar of some of the uh so it's not all the herat but it's

some that they would say well so for example there's the verse um you know um the the verse about le cutly oh lady him no what is it uh but it's done as in one of the rewyatt as

something like that where you basically well what what happens is you get the you you split a modaf and put the object in the middle right yeah and so the bossarin are dead against that right they say that you that shouldn't be allowed in but in one of the it is like that okay so i can't remember whether it's which is it might be hamza's or it might be uh it is but they so they fault that hira and they say that this is uh a false arabic like they've got it wrong now so i think

you know they they have been at some some grammarians have gone against some of the iraq but but it's not every era but some of the variant readings they have tried to critique them they've tried to say that nafit was a non-arab he was an argent what did he know about arabic and um yeah stuff like that but i agree with you for generally speaking like the way we have the quran the popular hatsan asim yeah they didn't generally um i'm not generally aware of them critiquing the uh robin in this reward i have i have another question for you actually

um and that is kind of my mom always encourages me to pray and have a go before not praying five times a day and so on um and my my kind of faith base for it is um obviously during the prophet time um the sahaba used to pray um mixed like male and female and nowadays is separate so it kind of puts it in my head off well how do you know if such a fundamental thing of prayer has been changed how do you know the rest is accurate and what you saw what's your thought on that of the prayer being different than what it was during the prophet time

you mean the actions were different as in they would you know how if you go to the mosque uh men and women are separated in the during the prayer but during the prophet's time he would and they would actually pray in the same room yeah but uh what would the question be so what's your thoughts on the nature of the change of the prayer what happened between um the change of the prayer from being mixed to being separate uh separated and how would that how would you say you think the change of the prayer right okay i

so i don't think the the you know the the salah in its actions phenomenologically i don't think it's really much different from how the prophet prayed maybe some variants have some itch they had in one two little things like did the prophet move the finger like this did he move it like this but i don't think in the the phenomenological entity of salah it really differed much from how we pray today to how the prophet prayed but i feel that uh the things like there was a naturalness to the salah that may be different i think they would have probably been

much more natural with the prayer the the fact that the the prophet didn't try to create these artificial barriers between men and women he didn't try to and he could have but he didn't um this is really all part of kind of the puritanism that kind of creeps in later on people you know the institutionalization the uh but also this puritanist aspect like you know oh people are rule filthy full of desires you know let's uh you know this kind of well if the prophet was here today he would have done it you know that's

built on that argument that okay we know he didn't do it but he doesn't know like obviously he had better people around him we today are the filth of the filth and so this is the reasoning they use but i obviously disagree with it it's a very puritanist aspect but it's you know it's weird because it's difficult because i've i'm part of a generation that's been brought up in a particular way and you know um and in many ways that's how we've only known certain things and we've um i don't mean this with the

with the barry but i mean like like certain communities for example they um like this let's say gender interactions now several people like now several communities or uh maybe younger generations today they brought up very naturally you know always they'll have always kind of like let's say female friends and male friends and you know and and it's very comes very natural and and that naturalness of the society was definitely there in the time of the prophet as well but many people have been brought up in a different

kind of world and and you know they've only they've they it's not that they've never had let's say they will have female friends and they will but they'll still be part of a certain maybe it's a generation as well yeah that you know they see things a bit differently so i wonder how it is for people who are like entirely just natural to all of these and um but as far as the salah thing is concerned i totally agree with you that it is and these are artificial barriers and they shouldn't really um they shouldn't be there in that sense

and and but now how do you go undoing this this is another problem that's what i'm saying we've got generations of people that see something how do you just undo it people because i i do believe like it's um kind of um we're going through kind of like a um reformation period for islam at the moment um and um brazilian speaks about that in details um okay and and it's and it is to do with the changing you know globalization the internet and so on um and the change in the nature of um the religion i suppose um but

actually another question is what's your thoughts on jesus death in the quran then um because you kind of say um actually i'm not 100 sure what's your thoughts on it but my friend was telling me you have peculiar thought on it and i would like to hear from you because no i i've said that that my understanding of uh jesus in the quran is that the quran highlights that they didn't successfully crucify jesus yes but i feel that they did that it was jesus they put on the cross but if because it was such a rush job

he didn't die so they didn't kill him and when it says that they didn't crucify him it means successfully crucify him right okay so that's um and and to be fair even the christian kind of uh narrative shows that they they you know it was a rush job and they tried to puncture his lungs to check is he dead or not because you know he's only been there a couple of hours whereas normally people are left there for days yeah so that's my understanding so i suppose uh and where allah

so some people think somebody got you know like transformed into jesus a roman and they hung the roman instead and i i don't make no sense it doesn't i mean so i feel that that's what happened they assumed he was dead and they kind of put him away but he wasn't dead and then he does disappear now where does he go right um this is the the question i mean even christians uh you know nobody seems to to know where jesus goes so that is a question mark but then i

would say look in many ways you know there's many things about prophets that were just a certain point in or historical people that are just unknown even jesus before he comes to jerusalem is pretty much unknown about him yeah so yeah nothing known about um like it's not a lot known about um where he was born or so on uh or even even if they say about where he's born but his upbringing it's all missing yeah yeah and and one last question um wrap this actually just came to mind um the quran statement about the

um and and what's the not comet but the shooting stars if you will um and it says it is to repel jinhua eavesdropping um on the heavens and obviously nowadays we know that it's just um pretty much space junk burning through the atmosphere you see i've said i have got a video explaining that by the way right so it's not um so so we in it depends which verse we're referring to because i know it's mentioned in a few but i've explained those verses so when allah

says that i've said here this is not speaking about like amazing but it's speaking about that people use it to kind of like they say so a person takes a guess and it's that people use the stars to kind of guess stuff yeah and yeah and it's regimen but it's lichey athene it can in the

hands of the wrong people it can cause a lot of superstition so that's how i've explained that verse that rejuvenation that it is there's another verse was um which is on a similar note um yeah there is um i can't i can't think of it over my head but i have explained and but i've given another there's another one as well with somebody you see i am explaining that

but i suppose if you watch the actual verse i'll go into in detail but where i do explain that look there are certain times the quran may personify certain um like it may personify uh let's say harm as a negative force or certain things like so for example the winds or these things that you may get just it may it may kind of ascribe a personification to it yeah but it doesn't mean that it's real so it may describe something

as a look a negative force this is a like a storm like the way we might see a storm as something evil but really it's not evil it's just it's nature but to us it's evil because of the harms that we associate with it and the quran may pick up on some of that language and and deploy at times so so it doesn't mean that it's it's actual um that these things are actually evil but it's just referring to it in a certain language obviously because the force may bring harm at certain times yeah

yeah omar thank you so much my mind for so long thank you very much thank you very much as well thank you very much for what you do um it's fantastic it's a relief [Laughter] chakra and i appreciate your kindness guys let's wrap this up we've gone on way too long right i think i need to get myself a drink or something guys take care of yourselves wherever you are have an awesome uh new year may allah bless this year for everyone i mean there's nothing wrong by the way

in saying you know happy new year and things like this these are not things of religion these are just social customs and etiquettes and conventions we have according to us the calendar in the general practice of the world it begins on this year we measure our years linearly i mean obviously really this is the globe turning in a certain way and we understand that but that's in our in our lives this is how we structure our lives you know we have seven days in a week we do this we do that that's there's nothing wrong in having that and in seeing something to take

to task uh a particular thing if we set that that's fine that people say well it's a new year so i'm going to have a new year's resolution i'm going to have this i'm going to try and do this in this year i'm going to do that there's nothing uh wrong in that it does not clash with islam it's absolutely fine obviously the way they had it the way the arabs had it in the past according to their calendar they would have done a very similar thing uh we've got we generally go by this calendar so we do it here so there's no harm in that and in setting new year's resolutions as well it is an

opportunity to kind of evaluate oneself look this has been a tough year for many people you know the world has not gone in in accordance with our plans but you know we've all made it through this year and it just goes to show that you know sometimes life will throw that kind of you know people say life will throw a curveball at you or whatever it is that it does not go according to plan um that things will sometimes come out of nowhere they will turn life upside down you know people

businesses have shut down uh people have been in lockdown been in isolation at home away from friends away from family not able to travel the hajj has been cancelled there's been you know many people have put off weddings they've put off all kinds of things they've had many plans and aspirations and they've had to uh maybe postpone them or adjust them but that that is the lesson that look no matter what happens that life still in its way goes on life with a capital l

and and here we are you know we've been through this very interesting year and and i i tell people you know it's it's up to you how you do things but i tell people that don't don't be negative you know this describe things as interesting as opposed to describing them as very always been you know oh my god it's been a very horrible pessimistic year or it's been such a sad year or it's been no it's okay but it's been interesting has it not that how humanity has tried to kind of

to kind of paddle through a pandemic which is unprecedented it's been interesting we've got through it and you know as we began this show by saying you know alhamdulillah that you know praise be to allah in every situation that we've seen this as well you know when you think about it look how far away it was in many ways you know when the the australian wildfires began last year and you know and almost world war three was about to begin with iran and so on and look it's been one hell of a journey you know

and even if you know in the words of musa in the quran [Laughter] that we've been tired in this journey of ours but it's been a journey people and such is faith so in all conditions do remember to be grateful there's many things to be grateful about you're still smiling you're still laughing no matter what condition you're in and it's not over till it's over so take very good care of yourselves i'll see you all very soon miss battery on sitos my patreons those of you on patreon i will be doing

catching up our private sessions in these coming days i've been kind of killed in these past two weeks two three weeks but i'm looking forward to catching up with all of you guys those of you that do want to show your extra love and support you can head over to patreon and express it there other than that do share this live do you like to subscribe click the notification bell and take very good care of yourselves

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