Own Your Destiny | Meaning With MALM #21
salat salaah namaz salaat namaaz as-salah al-salah salawat haj pilgrimage hadj aqidah aqeedah aqida aqeeda aqaid hadeeth ahadith ahaadeeth hadis ahaadith saheeh sahih hadith saheeh hadith sound hadith authentic tafsir tafseer exegesis tafasir tafaseer malik ibn anas malik bin anas imam maalik imam malik ibn anas imam bukhari sahih bukhari saheeh al-bukhari saheeh bukhari imam al-bukhari al-ghazali imam al-ghazali magrib salat al-maghrib maghrib prayer sunset prayer jumu'ah juma jumma jumah salat al-jumuah friday prayer takbir takbeer takbirat takbeerat imaam prayer leader qiblah kiblah kibla direction of prayer ka'bah ka'ba kaabah maaliki malikite malikiyyah maliki school hanafite hanafiyyah hanafi school shafi'i shafei shafiite shafi'i school fatwah fatawa fatwaa fataawa legal opinion hukm ahkam hukum hukam ahkaam halaal permitted lawful haraam forbidden sunna sunnat sunan prophetic practice ikhtilaaf khilaf scholarly disagreement riba ribaa sood usury kufr kuffar kafir kaafir kaafirun disbelief imaan eemaan eeman ilm al-kalam kalaam akhirah akhira aakhirah akhirat hereafter jahannam jahanam jahannum al-mahdi imam mahdi mehdi koran quraan al-quran sura soorah surat suwar soora aya ayat ayaat aayah aayat wahy wahi wahee sahabah sahabiyyah sahabiyat khalifah khalifa khulafa khilafah khilafat caliphate khilafa khulafa al-rashidun khulafa ar-rashidun rightly guided caliphs rashideen khulafa-e-rashideen makka mekka ahl al-sunnah ahl as-sunnah ahlus sunnah ahl al-sunna sunnis salafism wahhabi wahabi wahhabism sufis soofi tasawwuf tasawuf tasawwof tariqa tareeqah turuq tareeqa sufi order 'alim aalim ulema ulamaa shaikh sheik shuyukh shaykhs ummah umma ummat fitan strife trial madrasah madrassa madaris madrassah religious school nikkah nikaah nikah nama nikahnama wali walee awliya awliyah talaq talaaq triple talaq talak hijaab hejab hijabi in sha allah inshallah insha'allah in shaa allah inshaa allah alhamdulilah al-hamdu lillah alhumdulillah alhamdulillaah hamdulillah ma sha allah mashallah masha'allah mashaa allah bismillah ir-rahman ir-rahim bismillahir rahmanir rahim bismillahi bismillah al-rahman al-rahim as-salamu alaykum assalamualaikum salaams salam alaykum wa alaykum as-salam greeting shukr shukar shukur duaa duas duaas supplication adab aadaab adaab etiquette amanah amana amaanah amanat deen al-din ad-deen ad-din ibadah ibada ibaadah ibadat rahmah rahmat ajr sawab thawab thawaab sawaablive stream · 4:28:03 · 4,500 views · 13 Jan 2022 · Open on YouTube
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right so i take it they should be sound now bismillah let me just take a look people ah so can you all hear me you can hopefully you can now just adjust this uh right so somebody said we're here bismillah in alhamdulillah
foreign you guys are tuning in clicking like clicking share one must take a the necessary sip all right so i'll let you guys um do your thing spread the love whilst you're doing that um i'm going to just bring up today's
topic let me just bring it up here there it is with the file now what is today's date again there is yes all right so allah so what i want to take a look at today oh the dates wrong on that but you can ignore that so it is the 13th now
own your own destiny people own your own destiny quranic guidance i want to share some history lessons with us and that is on mole ismael and who was he and what was the army of bukhari well what is the army of bukhari and there's another fascinating topic i thought well we have to take a look at that as well why not the glaze of attention people and what do we mean by that
so some interesting things to take a look at now that i've said that got that out the way let me take a look at who's with us tonight [Music] esta noche what do we have people and who do we have let's see who's with us so
so uh mufti for real now i'm a theologian theologic theology student okay theology student from aleman from germany is it possible to learn from you in the uk see nowadays everything is online you're learning from me right now you will be learning in this tonight's episode uh you'll be learning through all my videos
this is a learning stream people this is a learning stream if you mean something like a consecutive course or constructive in that sense then i haven't set up anything like that i have got some lessons on youtube in maliki filk i've got a few courses on maliki first i've got but they are old i accept that so the ashmore which is in six lectures it's quite old the foundations of islam i call the yard in 20 lectures which is quite old um
i have some other i have some hadith classes on youtube which are a few good few years old as well i'm just trying to think so those are mainly the courses i've got a history course on a landlord which is quite old so all of these things are quite old but they're there i have got some other courses which are equally old but not uploaded and i do mean to upload them it's just that i just yeah get distracted but i will
um one is on arabic and i have got some videos already on youtube on quranic arabic from that course i think only a few um but i have the resale of ibn bizet al qaeda in expansive detail which i've not i think i've only uploaded a few classes from that so but i've got a lot of those classes left i was thinking maybe doing something at some point but i don't know i don't know if i do maybe i was just thinking of doing it restricted and just having it well
recorded and uploaded to youtube i don't know let's see yes there's always a lot going on but you can always learn from other people by the way don't feel that you can't there's uh so much that people are uh teaching alhamdulillah right so sending love from cape town all the way from cape town people allahu akbar right scorpio you do and
regular folk the community people this is this is what it is so it is interesting what constitutes what brings together a set of people uh as a collective it's interesting i have to say because today it's so different with this i wonder what it will be like in the metaverse
[Music] all right so simone jamila peace and greetings to all likewise peace and greetings um how are you i am well i'm fantastically light so allah be praised
somebody's haruna rashid started using duolingo to learn arabic that's amazing man i shared a on my insta story those of you that are not already following me on instagram you should do that's the best way to put it really you should do i do share i'm quite active with my stories on there and i do share things occasionally on my actual feed as well like some short video or something but on my stories i'm always sharing i'm sharing humor often funny stuff and
but then occasionally i'll share something valuable i mean i think humor is valuable but i'll share like a lesson or a tip or something and i said the other day that look people really need if you're not already studying arabic then it's not about putting it on your list to do it's about beginning it now immediately and i said just start with 15 minutes a day of arabic and i said that look just use some apps download these apps there's so many it's not about this isn't about a
personal favorite i'm just saying them arbitrarily so duolingo is one that came straight to mind this so many this um you get programs rosetta stone you'll get i'm not sure there's this one busu or something busu b-u-s-u-u i think but um but there's a bunch of them if you just look for arabic teaching apps they come right up and i'm just trying to think i have some i've had so many in the past i've had them for spanish and different things
but they do arabic as well now if you want to enroll on a course enroll on a course and if you you know if you want to enroll on a course with whether it's going to be a share whether it's going to be something online whether it's going to be with a college sure if you are up to that then do it if you're not then here's just a very simple mechanism of using your phone 15 minutes a day getting on with it so yeah so that's where we are people that's where we are
it's very straightforward okay yolanda i appreciate your kind supportive words looking forward to the arabic course yeah the arabic course is already complete so i don't know i mean i have several lessons of it
but i have to upload it the problem is it's one of these that back in the day when i uh delivered the course the platforms were still medieval so i used this back then this platform whiz iq we used to um use back then this is going maybe eight years ago or something so we have the course but we have it you see they allowed us obviously we could download it but only as an executable file not as a video file
so which is weird as hell but back then this is how they did it so the only way i can upload it now is i have to play it and kind of like screen record it almost like i have to cast the screen to a so it just makes it that bit more um weird and awkward to do so yeah but i'll get round to it so course on astronomy allah astronomy is epic that's just coming to understand
the constellations the stars out there i'm not talking about things like astrology which is different like horoscopes salaam alaikum from connecticut usa swakas the albus you do in it you're doing it right can we have more can you do more debates no i cannot
no answer is no so right so what is going on all right okay
ashikara people epic person right there may allah bless him i mean right so right john ely i don't know i do have a little poem somewhere i did print one out you know when i sometimes i see these poems and i think let me print one out and i'll read this
right so first and foremost we'll we'll get to that let's this is what we're looking at today so allah your destiny awaits you people and i want us to understand this
and what you know and uh and another awesome quote on the side you can see there to that really ties in gels and harmonizes with what we're going to be taking a look at today that wherever you go go with all your heart allah this hadith is something which we'll take a look at today's world and i feel it ties in depending on your perspective with today's session and this concept of
your destiny awaits you and we'll speak a little bit about that nora are you familiar with the tv show we are lady parts and if so what do you think i don't think i am we are lady parts no but i will check it out or i'll try to check it out so what is going on and shukran for the super chat nora um
so let me just take a sip before we begin a very simple question right there but an important one abdul-based will you be getting stuff i think you mean to say siddhi iqbal on mind trap it's been a while hell yeah let's get see the iqbal cherished iqbal on mind trap i'm going to try to hopefully we can have a mind trap not with chelsea well but we've got a mind trap hopefully tomorrow if all goes well with uh
tomorrow on with with us all right looking at two great mystic poets of islam i believe we're looking at mawlana jalaluddin and also i believe them too so we'll find out more tomorrow when we get us on the podcast
norris it's about a punk rock group made up of muslim women right i think i have seen a trailer to it a while back a while back i haven't really watched it but yeah all right so does the name iqbal have an arabic origin of course it does it's an arabic word iqbal comes from the root verb um
i guess it means like an approaching or yeah an approaching i guess but it tends to be it's it's root words it's a derivative from the term qabila yakbal um that's on the fourth form akba yuk below but from the root form to accept okay and where you get nouns like kubul accepting also the term qibla comes from that same root so yeah that's but the name iqbal
tends to be quite a dizzy name even though the word is arabic so it's fascinating how names work out so even though they could be arabic and but certain regions will gel well with a particular name in fact i tell you what let's take a minute and just say some words on that because i remember discussing it with a few people that it's interesting that let's say busy people now we have a
a subconscious proclivity to certain uh templates in arabic um over others so for example which is a template and is used for for nouns and adjectives in arabic so for example the name jamil or the name kareem or the name these kind of patterns of uh that you that you'll find they are
often preferred and then naturally those that end with ata marbuuta are are kept for the feminine okay so that's a common thing in in desi kind of muslims so the name wasim as we've had ustad was seen as saleem from the ottomans i guess well
who used to somebody may left a comment that saleem from the ottomans would would have an earring i'm sure he did um saleem was also jahangir by the way akbar's son from the mughals and so now saleem so these all of these names that you are seeing um aziz on this pattern raheem naim right these kind of these names will
be preferred over file over the template so hence people will say this is will use the name saleem they won't use the name salim arabs will tend to use salim over salim so this is will use the name samir because of the template but won't use the name samir faril whereas arabs would use samir and not samir so it's interesting
one could also argue that maybe that this pattern may be of closer origin to the the kind of hindi sanskriti kind of roots that maybe or i don't know about sanskriti but at least the indus roots may have a closer affiliation to these patterns like sameer is actually a hindi name so it makes sense and people did this a lot by the way so what they would do and this and this is reasonably uh or it's commonly found within the
urdu language as well that what they did is when they had words in hindi they would appropriate them with similar sounding words of arabic farsi origin so like like in names for example like that like samir which is a hindi name i think it means like a breeze or something i learned that from a salman khan movie many years ago but so in in arabic so they would just use this name because it's an arabic name to mean the same another good one
is like uh it's you see so in hindi they have a name verkas they have the word vikas and so this is common as well and it is used as a name so this is most likely why this is have used the name wakas because otherwise wakas doesn't generally have a a kind meaning to it i know it's from saadib nabi wakas but that's because it was from his father before islam
i mean the name's not anti-islamic but it's a heart i think it means something like about uh about breaking necks or like breaking but like it's a very it's like a tyrant name it's not something generally it's like somebody's trying to show that i'm a tyrant like i you know like it's it's like saying somebody who sheds blood and the butcher you know like like these kind of names like a person wouldn't generally name themselves or their kids the butcher so but that was from pre-islam that's from his father's kunya but
muslims generally in this part of the world when it comes to the indo-pak have kept those names because it has a similarity to other hindi or indus names that or words that they are familiar with and there's a lot of these even in culture it's fascinating actually you know too um so let me give you another example like uh um so the uh the ganges and the uh the jamuna river they i'm pretty sure they would refer to as the yemna and from the term yumna and
or some would say yumna as opposed to jamna and that's like the arabic word for the right hand side and you get this in so many things like let's say the ancient hindus had this thing of jati which is the caste system and because the ja and the are often kind of confused so um so the muslims use the term zatti from the arabic zod which is for either that that uh which means the essence
the that or the essence or themselves like we say that like himself or that to her herself so they use this to substitute that word and there's a lot of this and it's fascinating that how people because you also see as a sign of confidence that people have in the kind of culture and and stuff and also by extension you see it in faith matters so and i've always found that fascinating that muslims had that they felt it's not about you see putting aside judgment of right or wrong
but that they had the confidence to do something like that so for example um in in the indus or the hindi or the hindu tradition they would refer to the krishna they got as kali kamlivala now now people are not quite sure what that exactly meant some people say it's to do with his eyes some people say because krishna was very dark skinned some people say it was to do with a kind
of flower or something now what happened is muslims appropriated that so now in urdu when you say kalikum live the one of the black kamali everybody thinks you're talking about the prophet salallahu because they said that this is the term they're going to call the prophet by and now many muslims i'm telling you i've all heard of this in the kawali and in the songs and and they have no idea that it's actually its origin was to do with karishna um and even if you go on youtube and you type it in for krishna you'll see the
songs about krishna and kali kamliwalla but the muslims appropriated it and they said kamli here meant blanket that he kept like a black the prophet had a short and some people said it meant like a mark like like a birthmark and some people meant said it meant the eyes of the prophet because they were like jet black the the kind of the blackness of them so but whatever the meaning it's fascinating that this culture appropriated all these things and to the extent that they monopolized them
that it became today just so common knowledge that when they say this we're talking about the prophet although the term originally comes from a hindu deity but yet people will still question i'm just saying that and people are entitled to their opinions but let's say now in in the west when people say things like hmm now that we live in this part of the world and we're born and raised here this culture is our culture there's no harm in appropriating things there's no harm in for example holidays in partaking in holidays if we don't see the religious significance but we just see as a
holiday but people will be very disturbed by this thinking that we can't you know this is kufar to have anything from another faith within our faith but yet they'll probably have all these kawali or they'll be listening to these words and their parents will be listening to these words and saying them and everybody is fine and does not realize and i'm not criticizing these words i'm just trying to show the dichotomy that we have it's fascinating so okay somebody said uh song by nisra by many kawalis
manikawali yeah right okay i missed a super chat seema shukran much love for the super chat um could you explain about older women removing the outer garments how should that be interpreted in modern times younger women should wear a coat abaya um
all right i'm no that's not what it means um basically the general understanding is that women you see now this is another fascinating discussion um is that the verses that speak of hijab and i've got a detailed video on surah noor if you watch that i go through this and i explain it that you see the verses that speak of hijab and things like this will mention that those women who are and they will say those who are
in their menopause they have no need to observe hijab now that's fascinating because because it's like because it's a verse of the quran but then there's people are not quite sure what to do with it because because they're thinking i don't know like is this because the menopause is not actually i mean people women could enter into their menopause let's say in their 40 by mid 40s or something now many scholars are then left not knowing how to
where to stand with that so some will say well yes i mean the hijab then does not apply to them and others will say no i think they still should or maybe they should be maybe kawaii does not mean menopause it means then women who are like senile old or so i think there is you see the concept of hijab is always a very touchy topic and it's a very it is also it has modern nuances to it
that are inextricable you can't really have the discussion of hijab today without understanding um the dynamics of power relations without understanding anthropology without understanding psychology social psychology and without understanding modern history i think you could you could have a discussion but it would be a very um [Music] mal nourished discussion it would not be healthy it would not be complete it
would be incomplete at best so you'd have to take into equation the whole dynamism of what's happened in the last 200 years so even the word hijab has only has only emerged to represent this genre in the last 100 years or something it's not it's actually a it's an old arabic word so the word hijab is in the quran but does not mean hijab in the quran what you think today what people think what they use the word hijab to mean today in modern standard arabic is
not what the word meant in quranic arabic so today the word hijab means like a head covering which is which in quranic arabic is called not hijab and then um today by extension hijab means is is used as a kind of like a veiling of for modesty which in the past quranic arabic it may have been the word satar was used so this word hijab which when it's used in the quran means a barrier
so the in the past the in classical arabic the the kind of prime minister of the king of the caliph was called a hajjib because he was like the barrier between people to the king the the eyebrows in arabic are called the hajib because the kind of the barrier for like when sweat or whatever would pour down so hijab in the classical arabic sense in the quranic arabic means a barrier it doesn't mean it has nothing to do with clothes but the word to do with clothes are more satar or
these kind of words but in the last 100 approximate years the word hijab has been adopted as a reply to colonialism so this is when i said you have to understand modern history because colonialism and then the question why was it adopted you have to understand here anthropology and sociology and psychologize what's going on in the minds of people what catalyzes identity formation so you have to have a grasp of that and then you have to understand as part of psychology the the kind of the why the kind of
um neuroses that people are grappling with when they are forming and structuring this concept of hijab so they are grappling with um with faith but they're grappling with faith juxtaposed to a new phenomenon of modernity and um and and this sense of being overpowered by might so technological advancements economical advancements you're dealing with like there is a lot going on here
and there's the essence of the scholars their roles for example the power dynamics the power relations in in sustaining themselves and i don't mean this in a greedy way but just in an evolutionary way you see it is um the survival instinct so one must treat institutions in instead anything that's institutionalized must be treated from an evolutionary psychology perspective as an organism and you come to understand the the yearning of the organism to
survive and and the mimetic process that it has to undergo to do that so part of that is responding to modernity and colonialism with a with something you have to whatever it is and and the shift from the internal to the outward in an attempt to hold on to something you see because the faith is being challenged so a lot of these things are like very and and i think when people look at these discussions
they don't see all this that's going on they think oh it's just this verse but it's all going on it's even going on in their heads they probably just don't know it so there's a lot and then obviously who does hijab who doesn't do hijab the slippery slope what people feel i um you know i don't know what to say so it's it's tricky i think
there's just so much to unpack yeah i hope that makes sense you have to understand as well that in an attempt to you see in the face of existential crisis you you often find when it comes to religion you know with a capital r like especially institutionalized religions you will find in the face of existential crises a a deep dig into fundamentalism in order to survive and by fundamentalism i mean they will try to grapple with certain things and this often gives rise to
puritanist movements and so this is what we saw in the 19th century across the board with christianity with islam you saw it with some elements of judaism but you will see that people dug deeper into this whenever this happens when and this is like a hegelian dialectic at play so there's like push-pull factors and you saw it again in the 70s with you know with certain as as the the the threat the existential threat rose again there was a deep dive once again into fundamentalism and you had like in the
late 70s the rise of the ayatollah you had the kaaba being hijacked by johann claiming to be the mahdi you had uh several religious political movements rise on the back of you had the mujahideen era obviously funded by the cia but you had the rise of the mujahideen era this is all happening in as push-pull factors may allah make things easy and may allah give us a deeper understanding of how complex human beings are and our societies are right did i miss a sometimes i get i get
so carried away all right sugar and gold globe much love for the super chat let me see where we're at all right shukran shukran wrestle franco shukran yar much love mufti much love from australia i would love to know if you can give insight into the validity of mutaha from the sunni point of view today i don't know if i could really go into that today but i will briefly say i have got um i believe some videos on it on youtube if you watch them
um there there has been research done um there's a very good book by a contemporary maliki sunni uh scholar of from morocco um and it's an amazing book a very detailed study and he he has some lectures on
youtube which you can watch as well they are in arabic he has one debate with the salafi scholar as well um and it's it's definitely although the debate is kind of okay because as debates go they're not often healthy but it's still a good overview so he is showing from sunni thought that muta is actually not haram and that has been the opinion of certain other scholars in the past including um the great maliki legend of the 20th century ibn ashur one of my indirect
teachers through and so that's also his opinion that it's not it's based on need and not something that is categorically haram um and it was also the opinion of hypnotamia's granddad much of the hypnotemia and it has been the opinion of several sunni authorities in very early islam beginning with the companions of the prophet sallallahu alaihi sallam like ibn abbas and some people challenge whether it was if not but whether even abbas left the view or not uh but it was the view of other imran ibn hussein
and a few other companions and then some of the and but then it becomes a political issue um some people had claimed it was imam malik's view hence the hanafiya continued to in all their books write that it was imam malik's view up until even in the hidayah they say um you know al-muta is haram khilafani
i've always been intrigued what made them like they must have been you know like people say oh they just didn't know the mother of imam malik i find that a hard sell you know because i feel that there must have been certain voices that had reached them that were maliki that must have echoed that for them to believe it it i mean they say you know it's it could just be ignorance it could be but i um i don't know i find it
much more than that because i can see this um this discussion in the background so that's where it is i hope that's a bit of an and people so today the majority of muslims sorry sunni muslims majority of sunni muslims consider it haram and there is a minority that considered not haram and i would say look it's one of those things that if you follow those ulama that says haram then it's haram if you don't you don't i don't think this is not something to fight over this is not something to
and there's no need to be so you know people one of the things is people get very um emotional with their arguments like they will say well if it's halal would you let your mother do it i mean this is an absurd um and it's an argument from the heights of insecurity not everything that is in islam is about your mother or your sister or your father don't make it about you it's about islam and it's about what the
scholars of islam may disagree like um the quran is in 30 volumes he was deemed the sheikh islam of the 20th century i mean he's not a small figure he's somebody loved by everyone even the selfies or the you could you can't name a sect except or a denomination except they have to respect him i mean and that's rare in islam that you get scholars that everybody kind of still admires it's it's i'm telling you it's very very especially in recent times so you could get great scholars
so but one denomination will hail him and another one will say oh no he was a jahil so you could and some people would say he was this you know this person was that and so not every so you could take that you could take the world today pick a scholar and somebody will call him a jahil and somebody will call himself islam but he is one of those figures that everybody for the most part they've respect regardless of them not agreeing with him like he has this position of oh it's a bit like dahlowee you know from the indian subcontinent it
doesn't matter if you're braille we do the early hadees or whatever everybody writes shaoli ladder you know it's like how did that happen but it did so you get that sometimes you get people who everybody just has this respect for even if they don't agree with them so he is like then he's a huge figure you know it's not just a so and i'm not saying people could say look he and maybe you got it wrong and that's fine you don't have to believe it it's not your view this is a view and
you have the other view so if you subscribe to the view that it's something is haram then you should not be doing that because you believe it's haram okay and people say well you know by saying by showing ichthyolaf you could lead people astray but if in islam is a mercy the schools of felk all disagree you know what do you want to do throw away the methods of islam even on this so for example even on suffer from the hanafi mata what was his opinion you know one could argue it's still very similar what about the ruling in islam that you could marry a woman
by deceiving her that you're not that you just in your mind are thinking this is a temporary thing but you're not telling her so once you've married her and after the weekend or after whatever you decide to just say talat the the math herbs the sunni schools for the most part consider that halal and to me that would be haram and to other ulama that would be haram because you're deceiving you're conning a person and you you and you're obviously shattering the trust and faith so that ought to be that is
but yet ibn abdulbar imam nowi all these people write on it they say nothing wrong that's hala it's not they'll say that you know they may they may say um you know it's not we don't like it some of them might say okay we don't like it but it's not haram they'll make it clear that it's not haram if not has a whole section on it so this thing which today people may call nikhil missile or some people call it whatever but this or the classical word for it this is in the classical fit books if you want to search it you see so sunni islam is made up of
loads of different schools of thought you have the hambalis the shafi's the malikis the hanafis and each of these schools has sub-schools so to say that oh we sh you know we don't want differences in islam you don't know islam unfortunately because islam celebrates i mean it's a beautiful diversity it's a strength of islam that people within it have so many opinions and yeah and that leads to a discussion on this is an interesting discussion
that is the truth one or is the truth multiple you see so so when we disagree so for example let's say this is a good case study and let's say mutha is it somebody could say something else is that salah valid or invalid or is so this is what they call each they had a person has to so is it that one person is right but the other person also gets rewarded because you know he tried his best so that's okay many people hold that view that the truth is only one
but many people also hold the view that there are multiplicity of truths according to god so they say if the this is if you even a quick google search will bring up the love so people like imam novi you'll get people that will write that the muhatari are on that method that there are multiplicity of truths according to god so they say and this is like imam razali's view this is
people present the other view for imam malik's view as well um you'll have even he clearly advocates that his multiplicity of truths he says that there is no one truth according to god that these things are all true now the problem with that is then it kind of collapsed and shall kearney has a huge discussion on it as well but it it gets complicated for people you see because people they don't know where to put that then because then they think oh my god is where does this stop because is it just multiplicity all the
way down then or is it just in these issues or and then you know then you'll get great scholars and mystics of islam like mahidin ibn arabi who one would argue is one would argue seems to be inclined that way because of how he interprets the quran it seems to be that he's inclined to us although he is very firm on his islam but he also has this understanding that there are these i suppose one would not say multiplicity of truths but one would say it is the same truth manifested in a different
manner so it gets confusing for people i get that so what i would say is that look you approaching these things you are one of two people you are either somebody that can handle academic depth or you you're not of that you're not that's not the kind of cloth you're cut from in which case and that may be most people i would say look just leave these discussions aside they don't matter for you okay you just follow what your local imam tells you
so whoever your local imam is whatever he says you just go according to that and that's fine and you don't need to worry about all these debates and discussions in islam but don't go around condemning people just practice your islam according to you but don't tell other people off because they also are following their local imams and these ulama who are also great ulama of islam you know abu hast you know the father of sunni school today of sunnah is ashadi school so that's his view imam ghazali huge imam you know a worker ibrahimovic huge imam you know
one of the legends of sunni islam today and these are huge people so what i would say is that don't criticize people have your faith and you just practice and you the main thing is your connection with god you see if islam is not making you a better human being then something is wrong something is missing you need to examine that you need to think that yeah what's going on here you know if islam is making you angry and bitter and then this is not the allah's kalam will
never make somebody angry and bitter and hateful and that's your nufs it's never the quran so you're not you know you need to wash that negativity out and re-read the kalam of allah may allah give us all to fear let's move on right now love you too fahad love you with all my heart uh how do you rate uh ibna tamiya's critique of using reason in faith in his some people described it as very
and much love uh sure that's a very profound question i wouldn't really do it justice in giving it an overview here obviously he wrote in many volumes you know he's he's writing his um his kind of refutation of um
of you see it's it's interesting because i i don't think ibna tamir was against reason he's very he gets portrayed as though he's against reason he was actually very pro reason but he had another side to him which gets more highlighted unfortunately that's my thoughts but but yeah get raza aslan on mind trap sure i mean if you're in touch with him have a word with him and it would be epic
yet it's a choice though there's nothing right or wrong it's beautiful it depends where in the world you live to absolutely absolutely much love for the super chat dearly appreciated let's take a look at today's some verses of the quran let me just bring this up because i know when i get talking i get carried away
people bismillah own your destiny this is such an important theme look everybody is fighting a difficult battle everybody in their own way one can never disparage
the path of another okay but amidst that path people may find you know may have to walk over thorns may have to jump over hurdles all kinds of struggles as the poet says that that anybody that he says that you know this if if you want to he's saying well if you want to come to my abode
then you see this this kind of stone riddled path then that's the path you have to take that there is no like what he's trying to say there is no moonlit pathway that leads you to this abode that there is struggle and often amidst the struggle people they because we can't see what's ahead it is natural to to waiver to to second you know to to to kind of
question that i don't think i can do it to doubt to fall victim to the naysayers this happens in light of that and anybody and everybody can find themselves at in such positions i want to take a look at three verses two first of all from ali imran from surah muhammad and also from surah hadid
that was that you have this verse and i want us to understand by extension the meanings we can also take as well now this may in its context be speaking about people with all kinds of struggle maybe back then maybe in some of the battles maybe in some of the other things in just day-to-day life but today this this comes to comfort us this verse
in every challenge that you are facing now check this out wala allah says that do not become weak don't become weak do not be sad you are you will prevail you will overcome you will gain the upper hand al-allah is the one on top
the one who prevails the one who makes it it is you but is there a condition does it come with a caveat allah says if only if you have the faith see if you have that if you decide that look all this is happening
but i might i'm going to own it i'm going to take control however that may be whatever your challenge is you know people have may allah make it easy for everyone but people have all kinds of challenges sometimes a person may have to may have to put themselves in such a position that or in such an equation what i would call the the tariq bin zyat method that we they just burn the ships
what a tragic thing to do as they embark on the iberian peninsula which is modern-day spain and portugal so feeling outnumbered feeling the the courage and the determination of his men waver he did the unthinkable he burnt the ships you think why on earth would you do that this is it's you set at this impending doom
it's a ticking time bomb we it is just a countdown to death that's all it is that's what the people are thinking and then he tells them that well there is a way out but it's through that that you see in front of you see you on the other side allah and this mentality this tardik means yad method at times in life metaphorically to burn the ships that
you set your eyes on a goal and you lock in you think that i'm gonna get this done doesn't matter and you see this same kind the same theme of the verse being repeated in surah muhammad verse 35 that and here that do not fall weak do not waver water
that you end up calling to a truce and this in surah muhammad sallallahu alaihi wasallam speaking about um the speaking about hodeia speaking about the fatah makkah and other incidents but by extension what about by extension in for us that calling to a truce when it comes to the challenges it doesn't have to just be that a person may sell themselves short in something they call to a truth whereas they could
have that they could have attained they could have reached for the heavens but they just compromised that you would have had that greatness you would have had the upper hand you would have had success and greatness of my you know of like of epic proportions
and this is such an amazing see after allah says that see a person they are in their struggle in life it could be something work related it could be health related it could be family related it could be setting out on a venture but a person they've taken that tariq binzhiad method and burnt the ships and it's kind of all out so what do i do now what does a person feel in in that situation they are being reminded don't
fall weak they're feeling weak but don't they're being told stay strong own your destiny but in those moments what do you find yourself you find yourself alone allah follows it by saying a lie is
what is the fear about god is with you you don't see anybody to the left or the right but god is with you come that go go with all your heart and it is in these circumstances that people achieve and allah says
allah will not allow for your actions for these efforts for these endeavors to go to waste allah won't allow it but the question is will you allow it you see you have to it begins in here you have to own your own destiny and then set that foot forward
allies with you and success will unfold before you but it is a leap of faith and this is why allah says in the verse if there is a caveat that you have faith that if you believe because this is a belief but it is the power of belief people allah it is the power of belief and you've got in in line with these verses
a verse from you've got you just pause that surah hadith once again in a very similar in a similar theme allah reminding you because a person you know you may be i might think you know what i'm feeling lonely but i think i'm reminded a lie saying he's with me so i muster the courage i set foot forward and i
embark on whatever it is that i'm about to do but sometimes when you get there as things start moving forward maybe you've quit everything and you've started one endeavor one startup one little business that you've risked everything on a relationship a health issue something that you've you've gone all out but once you get there then you're thinking yeah allah was i know i felt allah was with me there but what about now
this verse comes straight surah hadid and in a verse to do with iron i mean that is named after ayan wahuwa not just there allah is with you wherever wherever you go and be you think nobody watches these efforts of yours you think it goes in vain people may not see your struggle people may only see the glory they may not see the the kind of the sweat they may not see all the failure
that you had to go through to arrive at that allah it is enough to know that god sees it it brings it back into your consciousness because all of us feel that there is this sense of being watched and we'll speak a bit about this in a moment i want to speak about the the glance of attention and consciousness but here in these verses
so as a reminder that no matter what we're facing only okay and you know it doesn't mean this and this hadith i want to bring this here in it doesn't mean by the way
owning your destiny does not or it doesn't have to mean that it doesn't even have to signify glory it doesn't have to signify some kind of triumph it's internal it begins there you own it see in life upon occasion things may happen or things will happen to certain people that may not be good that may not be good for them all good
to them better still shall we say somebody could be afflicted with a terrible illness terrible disease somebody could lose someone they die somebody could fail miserably not every success is a triumphant success
you can still own your tragedy and there is a beauty in that you see because and this is the part that people miss people understand owning success owning you know triumph but they can equally own tragedy they can equally own the chapter of life that they are in that tiger it's happened it is what it is and in that there is a peace
there is a contentment and allah is with you see may allah grant ease to anybody that is suffering or facing any challenge but i feel these reminders are incredibly important i'll take a look at one two of the comments and then i want to share a bit of this hadith and i will
i'm just trying to read these right what is the school the omicron situation i don't got no idea right so shukran shukran uh lonzetta alama alright mark i will share the link shortly and people can come on as well um yeah so it's about owning that's the theme people yeah did i read the poem today i don't think i read it let me share the poem
i saw this poem and i thought wow this is by gulzar and it's it's written in a in somewhat of a kind of like an open style but still with um but with clearly draped in um a poetic manner he says that he's addressing not a person called but life means life in arabic as well and
that you can snatch my childhood you can rob me of my childhood but not of my child-like joyful heart you can't take that that not every word or statement requires an answer
not every love is one of ruin he says that it is true you see many people swerving whilst intoxicated but not every intoxication is from alcohol
the silent faces that you see have thousands of layers and masks over them that even in the laughing eyes there are deep profound wounds to be found that those who we find ourselves falling apart
falling out with it is often those people with whom we have a deep bond or a relationship with my
he says somebody made a dua to god in that dua they asked for their own death wow just the conjuring the image of someone in such despair that they pray to god for their death
god said i would grant you death i would give you your wish india but what reply do i give to that person who is praying that you have a long life allah the the profundity
wow he said not every human has a bad heart not every human is bad and he gives the metaphor of a an oil lamp he says some oil lamps the flame dies because of a lack of lack of oil in them it is not always the fault of the wind that people blame
really profound honestly you couldn't so
profound honestly wow you know i i read that the other day and i i thought i have to share this seriously i was reading it and it just i was overcome i was overwhelmed by the emotion that it just conveyed wow but yeah this poem i think it's it it's just goes by the first line that um
there is no death there is only the force allah death is but just a doorway that one passes through they they say that that's a poem that would say that one that it is a doorway a portal through which mankind passes
i normally ignore the poems this is where it's all at let's take a look at some let's look at some history shall we what save you yeah right i'll just bring that up
me he says that maybe there is a cure to death but life there is no cure to life what a guy huh but what i that was not that's just a bonus just came up i wasn't expecting that this is what i want to talk about people
what are we talking about what is this so you can take a look right there you've got you've got the you've got the map you've got a few now let me just
and on the left hand side we've got a picture of suleiman because he is also somebody that emerges in the story and then moles mile again and that's the city of macnas the flag of the sardine and a map of the kingdom under malay ismail and how far it managed to advance so what is this all about who were the army of bukhari what do they have to do with sahil bukhari and what has maule ismail got to do with
all of this and on what do the turks have to do with it interesting people interesting for this we have to time travel allah and people say i don't take them on journeys i don't i don't take them on trips i don't do a trip sitting sitting trip setting right so i'm taking you on a trip through time itself allahu akbar going back to the 17th century people
right so this is a fascinating era by the way this is the era which they call in europe the the kind of the rise of enlightenment people will say it's the era of descartes of spinoza of leibniz that's what's going on you could shift right to the east it's the the king it's the era of great opulence under the the mughals
it's when shah jahan has built the taj mahal allahu akbar for his his beloved and you've got all of that going on muslims are at the height you've got the in europe enlightenment is kind of once again is emerging its head they're hearing stories of the east they're hearing of these the great peacock throne indeed people and they're getting curious you're having some the kind of
uh the companies are being also set up that are setting off and trying to become independent um investment entities and we spoke about that in our podcast on money and you can watch that it's on youtube and what's happening in northwest africa is you have the kingdom of the sardine okay so just pause there all of this is going on let's backtrack a bit further another step
allah let's go slightly back into the 16th century there you have on the left hand side top left hand corner that is the great ottoman solomon the magnificent ottoman empire is at it's it's already reached its peak they are ruling over several parts they are eastern europe central asia middle east northeast africa and they want to expand their kingdom further
so they set their eyes on north west africa al-maghrib today often synonymous with morocco but that whole region not just modern-day morocco it would be modern-day tunis algeria morocco mauritania that whole the maghreb they set their eyes on it they're like
and you see people it's this you know in the past or not even just the past whenever we study histories there is not really a it's difficult understanding right and wrong rights and wrongs everything is just modeled up no one person often often is the epitome of good or the epitome of bad there's always mixed
emotions about them look how great the ottomans were one could say that what you know the op the kind of heights of success that they reached but truly to the other people may admire them but they don't want them ruling them it's like imagine you people want their autonomy they don't want to be controlled and especially by foreigners it doesn't matter even if they're muslim if i said to you that you know your
household from now on will meet here meet this person mr abdullah he from tomorrow will tell you how to run your house you'd be like what he said but don't worry he's muslim and be like that's irrelevant whether he's muslim or not people are not comfortable understandably so with being a next to a particular empire so anyway the ottomans
have invaded they they invade tunis they secure some territory they want to expand further west to go into morocco they they take control of parts of algeria some places in north uh in the maghrib start affiliating themselves with the ottomans so you get some places especially from the banilwatas dynasty some of them they stop in the jummah saying suleimani his name so whilst this is happening you have
somebody known as okay now he's from this ruling thing he says i've had enough this is not happening or turks and he said these turks are a fitnah they don't belong in this part of the world as in you see this is not about racism this is about they don't belong as rulers in this part of the world not as tourists he didn't have a problem with the turkish ethnicity
but he said that this is not this is not turkey or this is not their territory that what are they doing trying to rule north west africa so and you have to remember the sardine had a dynasty of their own so he sets up this he he rallies an army and they go and have a face-off with the turks solemn he sends his army and and something which soleiman was magnificent for was his his his naval uh endeavors and enterprises so his his navy was quite spectacular so they send the boats and they come and they kind of
embark on these ships and you've got these armies that have come to fight standoff against abu abdullah asadi and he proves to be an admirable adversary far beyond the expectation of the ottomans there's a great battle that takes place i believe why the 11 but he defeats they defeat the ottomans so the ottomans are like whoa ah who's this a new kid on the block so what happens is they do another attempt
if at first you don't succeed don't worry man they also they have the element of torque each side has tabaka but you see so they send these reinforcements they think you know what we're going to have a spectacular standoff showdown it's going down people and the ottomans were had huge resources you know that it was something which you couldn't really you couldn't question their power they come once again
he takes he kind of rallies a cry he has all these people these tribes that kind of always affiliate themselves with him true kind of rated as a warrior of his age he goes he not only faces them but they crush the ottomans and these guys take over they take back all of that that part of the maghrib they take it under their control the ottomans have to flee they have to they've got no choice they're out of the gone so right
now what to do man what to do huh so what happens is suleiman al-kanuni and solomon will see solomon the magnificent in his own right he he has spectacular you know efforts and and and accomplishments and feat that he has that he has achieved in his lifetime including even from the islamic perspective he had introduced um this is why they called him he had introduced
he had done ichthy hard with the hadood as well that the punishments changed with the day and age so he had changed them in accordance to hanover in his day and age obviously later on maybe the hanafi's disowned that element but so suleiman writes again saying look you have to accept me says that's enough behave right he he says look his reply check his reply out style he was a man of few words
he says he writes to uh whoever he's writing back he has to send the message back he says tell and he never used to call him the king and whatever and often he wouldn't even call him you know people would say suleiman or solemn he would call him sultana kareem is like a boat a small boat and he would call him sultan the the sultan of this of the boats that's what it called him he said in his message tell sultana that
i won't write a reply to him i will come to egypt and when there i will voice my reply to the sultan of the boats and he can see it in person cashtail you know the clash of the titans you know confidence super confidence on one hand you've got emanuel kanuni been battered have been chucked out still writing a letter saying you know what uh so you're going to
accept me as king confidence level uh and then he says write your reply why write your reply when i can come to egypt and take over egypt and tell you my reply in person this is this is the you know there's that scene in andaz where amir khan and salman khan are on the coach and they're blagging to each other they're saying says he says where'd you get that cap from
he's like i got it from paris oh i got it from that cha cha cha maybe pengu yebi pengu says i i black and he's a blagger as well so no but these guys were to be fair these were people of whether they had egos but they were people of accomplishment they weren't just kind of hearty so what happens is he was a wise man as well and he he thinks yeah not always might is right you know this one see it's not always strategic sometimes you try force and force doesn't always work
you need to be skillful yeah so he takes advice from people what say ye huh what say you to his counsel they say to him that yeah there's no point fighting him this guy's a legend in his own and it doesn't matter what army we take to that part of the world those people and those tribes are their people so even if we take 50 000 people you've got you know that they live in millions so we can't out fight them in that part of the world in morocco
he says that in such circumstances when you can't out fight the person you sneakily attack the man you have to resort to sneak attacks he says have him assassinated of course whenever in doubt assassinate so he says yeah point point point we should assassinate him so what he does is he sends 12 people 12 turks and he gives sets them a high price and
they like major they like assassins so they plot they turn up to his they eventually arrive to the sardine kingdom and they seek refuge asylum they say we are seeking refuge we we've fled the ottomans like we're kind of renegades and we've had obviously issues we've kind of defected and and we seek refuge from the king so abu abdullah he says uh cool he says bring him in so he brings them in and and these guys are people that have that charm to them you know that style and and
no sooner had he kind of met them he took a liking to them yeah they were kind of like yeah man you know guys guy kind of thing so he starts liking them and they come to him often and they kiss his hand always and they always do the awesome so he thinks yeah i like these guys so he gives them swords and he gives them weapons and you know gives them a horse and gives them you know he starts i'm a king after all you know take take take so what happens is because they start frequenting his chambers
one of the nights when they they go to kind of just just chill the guards are not there they assassinate abu abdullah obviously that they are assassins traders trained assassins they assassinate him and they not only assassinate him decapitate him bloody yell talk about getting graphic and then steal his head yes
right so and they take it back they sneak out under the darkness of the night and make their way back to constantin constantinople where solemn is and there they put present his head on a platter to suleiman who rewards them with thousands of gold pieces and then has his head hung on the constantinople tower as a sign of his own power and authority
see we often forget that the real reason to rule is to serve people allah but we become these demigods in and of ourselves this is the ego so whilst that's happening people they obviously realize abu abdullah has been assassinated they place his son in charge whose name is abdullah they call him
so what happens let me just bring up the charming fella right there as you can see the top left major one you know they had those huge turbines that was the kind of ottoman style he thinks now it will be a piece of cake to conquer the maghrib he sends his naval forces they go the navy land thousands of troops they are surprised to to find not i mean they're not surprised to find a a replacement they expected that but they're surprised to find that like
father like son abu muhammad al-halib was a legend of a leader and he was somebody that not only people rallied around but he was in his own right and these because you see the the the maghreb a lot of people there especially these people they had come from um kind of like barbara origins and and that kind of very rough desert kind of lifestyle and they were very rough and tough people so abu muhammad al-ghalib they not only stand their ground but they vanquish and
decimate the ottoman army and embarrassingly so what happens is the ottomans retreat with great shame they go back and at this point suleimano kanuni finally realizes that i need to own my destiny and realize that that is not going to happen i'm not going to conquer that so he finally lets go of this vision that let's conquer the maghrib so the maghrib is now
flourishing in its own way and this the sadden continue they have the kings and so this was with we had to go to the prequel to set the stage people setting the stage now you fast forward slight slightly there is a new king he emerges here his name is ismail is sharif
he's known to many as molar or mole they call him ismail that's how he's famous us he emerges as a young man in his mid-20s he becomes king very strategic person during his time europe have started making some attacks on northern maghrib so britain has taken over certain parts spain have taken over certain parts so cities like or towns like punjab
tangiers had been taken over ish had been taken over asila had been taken over a few different places have already been there under spanish and british control so he rises he thinks you know what we need to rise in strength so one of the things he does is he was very familiar with the town of macnas which is a neighboring town to fez it's a twin kind of city but he realizes that the people affairs don't seem to like him that much and he knew macnas pretty
well so he moves his capital to mcnas once again it's in the north you can see the northern threat from the europeans so he thinks i need to work on an army so he starts getting certain tribes and trying to rally a cry but he realizes it's not working here he finds his ins his inspiration in who people and you got it in the old enemies the turks the ottomans you see the ottomans were incredibly successful in their own way
he realizes the ottomans had something known as the what in english they call the janissaries or the janissaries and in arabic it's called the inkishariya they had a special military force that was dedicated to the sultan and this military it was made up of slaves and they had it for centuries in fact it becomes a nightmare for them but they had so their army were all slaves
that they had bought and that were just dedicated to the crown the crown is your your father the crown is your world the crown is your everything you live and die for the crown so he thinks i like it man i like it the philosophy you know so he says i like this he says i want an idea but how can i get one so what he does is he starts buying a bunch of slaves he gets slaves he gets different things he puts them together but they're not enough you know it's not like a solid
solid massive arm so he realizes okay hmm first of all he says that let me incentivize people to sell their slaves to me so people sell slaves he starts training them he starts setting up certain military academies and he himself obviously was from a long chain of kind of warriors and so he starts to kind of battle and he starts to he sets his eyes on the europeans first he thinks right we need to two things we need to secure our territory against the
ottomans and we need to get rid of the europeans so he marches and he gets into these bloody battles with the europeans and and he allies himself with france against the british and the spanish and he manages to successfully remove the spanish and the british so people are kind of liking him what he realized at the same time is that i can't have any uprisings from my own people who will take me over so i have to learn from my lessons okay this one own your destiny huh
so what he does is he de-weaponizes the maghrib he says people are not allowed to own weapons anymore unless you belong to the army which is his army he does make an exception for a few select tribes of the reef in the countryside where the uh the kind of arabs were and he does that for a reason because one they're so strongly loyal to him but two has to ward off the threat from neighboring territories so they always have weapons but the people of the maghrib he
demilitarizes them de-arms them you're not allowed to bear arms or have swords and stuff like this so he says that people have to give this up during this time he's also setting up just to give you a little flavor about him he's setting up his royalties he is one in addition to military having an eye for military accomplishments he also has an eye for the the finer sex shall we say he naturally takes as many wives as he can but he has a keen he's a connoisseur
one might say for the concubines and he has hundreds and hundreds some say a minimum 500 concubines he blesses his harem with he says yeah what kind of a king am i if i don't have a harem we have to deal with priorities first and they say from most of his concubines he has children so he had over a thousand children and he was somebody that he absolutely loved women in that sense one could say in that sense so if he had
an opportunity to add to his his collection it is no time to waste you know this one one must be very dutiful so so he like if people would often he like a good gift for him if you're going to see him would be to offer him a slave girl concubine you know this one is on i like it you know this thinking this guy so that's how he often was and what's interesting is in recent times some european
um there's been some european research i believe it was from vienna some viennese university i believe or a research team analyzed that how much truth was the looking at the dna structure that could it be possible that he actually birthed over a thousand children and they realized they did research and found it to be most likely uh true that he did so because some people were skeptical that this can't be true that he had over a thousand kids and how would you even know that they're your kids i mean
if you've got over a thousand then you might as well just say the whole country might as well just start calling me [Laughter] just just to be on the safe side everyone just call me a boo so here is mola ismail and you know he was very in addition to having so many women he was incredibly insecure about his women if he found out that any of his soldiers or men even looked
at any one of his any one of his right hand possesses possessions he would have them immediately executed he was like zero tolerance man this one insecurity okay so and on several occasions he he had this thing as well that he didn't want anybody making eye contact with him which was what is it wasn't that the yeah what's her name the yeah what's the the the singer
the one they made the documentary on her dad's got her under control what's her name bloody hell the didn't she have that uh the whole that you can't make eye contact let me see somebody's gonna no i can't believe it's anyway so yeah there's so many but i mean the the current you know the documentary which is restricted from britney spears wasn't it britney spears had this thing of you can't make eye contact none of her workers could make eye contact with her so anyway he had that same britney spear effect going on
but several centuries ago if any of his workers made eye contact with him especi i mean it's different if he had asked them to but if he was just walking and they were looking at him he was ridiculous he would either have them beaten so bad or he would on some occasion occasions he had them executed i mean i don't know what kind of a power trip this guy was on what kind of goddamn you know stuff and the thing is that you see the feelings around him are so mixed because on one hand
during his reign he rules morocco for perhaps the longest any king or dynast has ruled maghrib i said morocco but sorry maghrib and that's like i think 55 years he ruled and his rule is a time of prosperity for the state because as you can see the map here that that's pretty huge for as far as the maghrib goes because that is descending quite south into places like senegal it's taken mauritania it's taken other parts which
timbuktu and other things which were not really part of the maghrib he's expanded he's removed the europeans he's got rid of them and the public are seeing this he's building certain policies and he's doing things so on one hand he is seen as providing stability to a region so people do like that on the other he's seen as somebody who will shed blood over anything if if you got on the wrong side of him he is the archetype of that kind of um that
benevolent tyrant of a king that if he's on the good side he will just shower you with gifts and if he you look at him wrong or he's just not in the right mood he will immediately execute you and he would not miss an opportunity to embark on a new adventure this on a new sexual adventure so he was a man of definitely very very virile shall we say in his uh happy keen on spreading the dna and he was absolute people would that they say that absolutely addicted to sex
so now a powerful king in his might as you can imagine so yeah i mean in some ways one could say the motherbee version of tamur maybe mole is my now and you see what he did is he brought up because he wanted people to love him as well because he like all kings they want people to hold them in all not just because you have to but really so he really bolstered and promoted this angle that i'm from the bloodline of the prophet so he claims to be
from the the shari he claims to be sharif from the alawi uh um bloodline and this is the beginning of the alawi dynasty even though it's it's following on but he starts promoting this line that we're from the bloodline of the prophet and they say aloey because it's going back ultimately to say ali but it's not through hussain it's through hassan it's through hassan so and through muhammad naf zakiyah so
so there's mixed feelings about him now during this time to strengthen his kingdom he gets a one of the scholars one of the judges maliki judges i mean they're all maliki by the way one of them um is he gives him the fatwa or the opinion sorry the suggestion and i suppose fatwa as well
that look why don't you nationalize all slaves they say if the head is dead so basically and this this idea mole ismail likes it he says he says i like it yeah he makes a royal decree all slaves that belong to anyone
whoever they are now belong to the state meaning they belong to abuji which is ismail and the problem is here he's also he has this idea some people say people told him or he had it himself he says not just all slaves
all former slaves what they called hertani and the plural and sometimes people don't know what the word haratin means and they think it's because it's on the arabic scale of alin so people think it's like is the word for something meaning something but it's not it's just a pluralized form it's a plural of the word which hortani is actually a colloquial rendition of the word which means free and thani so a lot of
the moroccan dialect um and certain other arab dialects for instead of atha sometimes say so they might say something is kathir or something is instead of kathir so they would say somebody is her he's a free person but he's a second class he's like a second-class citizen so you used to be a slave or your parents were a slave so you're not a slave but you're a but you're a herethini you're herbert of a second grade be great hear a brief be great free person
so this horthani they would call hortani and the plural is so this former slaves who were not slaves anymore they were often people who were not always but may have especially in that part of the world may have been black so now and some weren't but especially in that part of the world a lot of the slaves may have been of black origin african origin whereas in the eastern part of the world they may have been of other mixed origins european origins as well and eastern european origin slavic and other things
so here they people that were known in society so let's say you've lived your whole life as a free person you are a free person even though even though your parents may have been slaves who were freed you now are forced into slavery you are effective immediately by fiat and royal decree deemed a slave and property of the state this was an abominable
of epic proportions utterly unacceptable utterly unacceptable haram and to the utmost an nth degree to literally do that to people turn them into slaves in an instant and he did and whether you like it or not no person could own a slave in morocco now that
has a nice side to it but he wasn't doing it from the nice side he wasn't doing it for liberty and freedoms he was doing it no person can own a slave because all slaves are now the property of the king so and any person who has had slavery in his lifetime or in his parents lifetime for example is now also a slave effective immediately property of the king this caused such a stir and
and it sent shivers down the spine of the shabal maharibe the maghrib people they were disgusted by this that how dare you just overnight people with families people would just declare them and remember this is he's doing this and this is not like a war scenario this is not like well you've come and you've been captured as this is normal people living just normal lives as muslims
in what is a muslim territory here several ulama rose in objection to him several amongst them amongst them sheikh muhammad miyara the great scholar that people read his commentary on on and other things he's the student of ibn aashir and another great scholarship um [Music]
you've got muhammad abdullah ibn jazees these were some at the forefront they were from fez they strongly protested and said this is utterly haram it says against the against the citizens and the subjects of what is a muslim territory this is against the quran this is against the teaching of islam
ismail however was like i'm sorry do i look bothered he was like i'm sorry did you think you were the authority uh the only authority here is me the king so he did he tried to justify first of all he engaged in some uh he had some kind of debate set up discussions oh by the way the the people were immediately taken in
there was no delay on if you were a slave or a second class freed person you were immediately a slave and brought to the kingdom you were brought to the king and you were admitted into a military academy and they started training you to become soldiers and he did he did do things like provide them a salary he did even upon graduation from the military provide he gave them a home and a wife and he made sure these things did happen but it was against their will i'm sure many people probably did it willfully and and as you can imagine
many didn't now so this is happening but when these people were rounded up the slaves mauler ismail turned up for the royal audience and he what he did is he brought a copy of sahil bukhari and he said to these people he had them kind of assemble like hundreds of them and thousands of them or thousands of them and he gave this speech and he said you and me
are all slaves humble talk you know when you have politicians this is politician speak he said you and me we are all abed we are all slaves slaves to allah and his messenger and he said and we are slaves to the messenger of allah in what he has said and instructed in this book sahil bukhari so he said all of you will pledge an allegiance based and you will pledge
your allegiance on this book so he didn't do an allegiance on the quran he did an allegiance on bukhari he said that you have to declare your oath to me on this book on the teachings of the prophet sallallahu alaihi which is in in sahih al-bukhari and that's what they had to do and what would happen is in when they would go out on military expeditions and armies would go he would have sahil bukhari all adorned and it would be in a kind of a carriage of its own that had decorations and it would be at the
vanguard of the army at the front of the army and this and it would bring kind of uh motivation to the army that this is sahih al-bukhari and this is why his army became known as the army of bukhari so if you have a search in arabic jaish-al-bukhari or jaish
it is about the army the military of um and he and they were very successful in their military campaigns so what he did is he had these slaves just devote themselves to him and he did reward them he gave them money he gave them made sure they were fed and looked after but they had to there was 100 loyalty to him they have no other life they are the property of him and yes so he he thrives and he's building more places and he's gaining more
wealth and acquisition and women and all kinds of things whilst this is happening the scholars really raised their voice against him and i mentioned that group of the malikiah and what mola ismail does is he has them engage with some other scholars in debate he he has them invited to the royal palace to debate him not debate to have a discussion and there's certain scholars there i believe there's a scholar abu abbas
who is very pro that you can it is legitimate for the sultan to enslave the haratin he says it's it's it's halal in islam so and he justifies it by saying look the country is in in danger and you know the europeans to the north the ottomans could attack from from the east um we lack soldiers we lack loyalty and these are people who have had slavery anyway in their history so here
he very clearly says look he says you have not got an ounce to stand on you don't have a shred this is you cannot enslave people and this goes on he's called he makes a few royal attendances and they're not budging now on one occasion molar ismail gets up to walk off so sheikh abdul salam ibn jazees grabs his he has this kind of cloak he grabs his cloak and he says to him sit
and listen to the words of your grandfather the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam because you see moala ismail is always trying to promote i'm from the bloodline of the prophet i'm the great great great great grandson of the prophet so he says sit and listen to the words of your grandfather the prophet sallallahu alaihi that this bukhari that you're going on about this bukhari that you are carrying at the front of the army this bukhari that you are doing this this your actions are absolutely against the sunnah of islam and against the teaching of the quran so
here mola ismail is utterly offended when he says that to him then he grabs his cloak and says listen to the words of your grandfather it's obviously insulted this is in his palace so he says that he says that you know what you've crossed the rubicon this is the line has been crossed he says to his his guards that i want you to make an example out of this guy they first of all they do things like beat him then mole ismail says i want you to persecute him he says
seize his property any wealth he has any assets sees it his family mo this sheikh uh abdul salam ibn jazi's family are declared homeless they seize his house his home they seize any kind even his books books because he was a great scholar they take his books they take everything and he's kept and what they would do is embarrass him uh by they would have him tied up and dragged behind some kind of animal and they would then ask people to donate in charity to free him so people would you know people with their hearts they would see that and the
injustice and they would give some money and then they would kind of eventually when they've received a certain amount they would not free him but take him off there and then put him back in the cell and they kept him in a cell for almost a year they tortured him and it is interesting you know this ties in with the theme of what we're speaking about that own your destiny not all destiny is you see owning your destiny is not necessarily about glory but it's about your legacy
his legacy was to stand for justice and he knew that this is a very it's it's a very dangerous path and you know there's no light at the end of this tunnel but sometimes for some reason people they take that stance and allah says in the quran
allah if allah had not enabled or allowed it that people would stand then in opposition to other people if it wasn't for this that people would resist and oppose that places of worship would be destroyed and it's interesting allah doesn't begin with masada it begins with churches monasteries and synagogues and temples and masjids would be destroyed youth karuphi is not like allah's name is glorified in all of them that's the verse of the quran i mean
that's not me saying it that's the verse of the quran so he stood his ground and he's persecuted and eventually moala ismail has him strangled to death almost a year later he gives the instruction that have him executed but strangle him he says to death and they do and they say that sheikh abdul salam is curses maul ismail his endeavor and
people say allahu alam that perhaps that and we've spoken of this in the past that that mind-heart coherence that when words leave your tongue but they leave it with that emotion allah says there is nothing there is no veil between that dua and god and although he sacrificed his life to say that these people are free people see he was living a a good life i mean a reasonably good he was a renowned prestigious kind of scholar in fez
but he sacrificed it for the freedom of others in saying this is wrong this is this is haram this is you know you can't just rob the freedom of people and enslave them it's not just about an action being haram you see because people do many harams but it's the the the ramifications of this action that you can just declare people slaves and and he knew what lies at the end of the tunnel and he is prepared to lay his life down
and he does and may allah bless his afterlife but he leaves a glowing lesson for people and in his wake he leaves people say the this his words this dua that he that the that this is justice that by the vicissitudes and twists of fate these these very slaves that become this military elite because uh mole ismail rules for 55 years the longest reigning monarch and
dynast of the maghrib and a powerful one and the military academy i think was like seven years or something so during this so many of these are produced and they become these elite and so powerful that within just say one or two kings after him in fact just one king after him as soon as he passes away these become de facto the rulers that they place the king and you know depose the king as they please and they remove they execute they
do as they they become this ridiculous source of power within the mahdi which it takes a good few generations for somebody to say what on earth is going on here and what's are so ironic is when moala ismail began this he looked at the turks and the ottomans and the inkishariya the janissaries who were slaves and they had been so for you know this military elite of slaves that lasted for three four hundred years but that was exactly what was happening in them the moment they rose to a
certain position they were dictating who the next sultan would be and nobody none of the sultans could dare question them i think is it till murad ii or something but it's still always i think mahmoud the second is it right it's so much later hundreds and hundreds of years later that they just about then with so much struggle get rid of the janissaries these incashadi this slave elite the slave military elite and that's exactly people say it happened here and his own family somali ismail's own family to come are then persecuted at the hands of
these and one of the people that they persecute when they rise to power after molay smith is that one uh sigil massey scholar the one that kind of official judge that was saying no justifying that it was right to turn them into slaves because the state is in need and so on he's one of the people that gets uh quite badly persecuted uh later in life by the harati this is just such a um it's i mean there's so much mixed emotion in this whole legacy of mola ismail
the army of bukhari the har rating the scholars that rose to to to oppose the oppression amongst them see the muhammad mayara siddhi uh you had to see all of these great legends rising opposing that and all this but at the same time it was a and um it was a dynasty that for once got rid of foreign invasion like the spanish and the british from tangiers and other places and got rid of the ottoman threat
and brought some stability to the region so so much mixed emotions going on with and set in force a new dynasty known as the alawi dynasty which is still today the the moroccan king is still from that uh dynasty the alois which continues till today so just such a nuanced and information rich part of history wow i just had to share that with you guys so i hope uh it's it's been interesting and there's so many lessons to just take away from that people
god bless you all let's take a look at some um questions yeah mola ismail it was evil yeah it is an incredible it is tragic but it's it's it's kind of so there's so many mixed emotions about it and it just goes to show in life they're you know there aren't really clear things are not black and white some people can do some good things some very heroic things they can be great
but at the same time monumentally evil it's just like wow what do you do with that where do you put it so yeah you know what would be interesting is to contrast that with aurangzeb because at the same time in the east origin is in power but we can maybe do that in another session and contrast it it'd be quite interesting fascinating century in time of human history
i see saracen shukran much love for the uh super chat must eat as the current king of morocco as well as the hashemite king hussein carried the title of calif i don't think they called himself caliph no i think the current king of morocco does use the title amir al-mu'min but i don't think they call him caliph i don't think he calls himself calif either i think he just this is called the king but um as far as i'm aware they do use i have heard them use the word amidal
and that is used in certain things always great hearing these historic stories musti shukran shukran the mongol horde yeah that's interesting although that's already been at this time ottoman sultan was the caliph sure sure all right let's take a look nice question i see you do and you do in it darth vader so what is going on
let's see where do you get these stories from i love these stories honestly to me uh it is that the power of stories is what makes us human beings there's just so much to it honestly so much yeah let's take a sip of coffee see the time whoa all right so people what is going on you missed super chat i missed some super chats let me follow up
with some super chats go back scroll hopefully hasn't disappeared [Music] right the civilian vic shukran much love for the super chat hello mufti excuse me for interrupting not at all not at all interrupt away i don't know how to stop my mother from worshiping her statue of death what she gives the offerings i try to remind her of god as much as i can but she keeps it statue of death is this uh in mexico is this mexico
uh is this um but there are certain cultures that do have a uh the kind of an uh a devotion to death and that too then embodied by statues or sometimes a lady lady death you know i know in some of the santa flacca i think as well in some of the i think mexican tradition as well but the santa muerta and they have um
different things they also have as well day of the dead dia de los muertos and death is kind of celebrated and in in some cultures and i believe there's also a in the east as well you find some cultures like that as well so which is which is fascinating in a way the fact that death is celebrated i do find that fascinating but coming to superstitions and statues and things i don't think that obviously that's not healthy when you say look
you don't know how to stop your mother i don't think you can just stop someone from doing something because these things have to be realized within a person has to realize that i want to stop doing this you can't force someone into a different belief and often people have been brought up in such a way that it's especially superstitions superstitions are the worst because they grip the brain and the
brain doesn't know how to handle it without superstitions you know they think yeah i might as well and yeah so if a person has spent their entire life in superstitions it's hard to say oh just don't believe you know like if a person believed for example let's say they believed all their life that something brings bad luck now you tell them look these things ain't real everything is in the hands of god now they might accept that as an idea
they may not be opposed to that you know kind of axiom let's say that everything is in the hands of god but they can't help but be be programmed or follow the program that they're conditioned by to toe the line when it comes to this superstition because it's hard for them to break it i don't think it's impossible i think people can break it but there has to be willpower they have to want to break it and this is how people honestly this is how islam
rapidly spread in the past you know people really are either misinformed massively ignorant or just belligerent when it comes to explaining how islam spread they like to say islam spread by the sword or by fear or by you know scaring people that if you don't do this will do this then tell me why didn't christianity spread in those places during colonialism why didn't he spread the same you might say well it did spread a bit
it did but why didn't everybody become christian or most of the muslim world was all under colonialism for i mean we're talking you know many parts of it for maybe one to two some places three centuries maybe yet people didn't change religion why not because this because you got it wrong it was not how people left their religions of old in the first place it was not by sword it's very difficult to make a person give up
their heart and mind it's very difficult they have to want to and i'll tell you how it happened with islam people had as they still do they had crazy superstitions and people relied on their superstitions for providence for risk for the crops to grow for it to rain for this to happen for that to happen and they saw yes they saw muslims come in yes they saw them as a force as well they did see that
so they saw yes there was an element one could say of identified superiority one could say that i'm not saying that the muslims necessarily saw themselves as superior but one could claim that maybe these people felt that muslims see themselves as superior to us they possibly may have felt that when they encountered muslims but it was the belief the success they were having in life and then the confidence that muslims showed
that la tahinu do not fall weak well attack don't you dare fall into grief and sadness at all times own what god has given you whatever circumstances you're in that mean everything is is goodness why that if something bad happens to him you know he he's he's patient to god and he's
he glorifies god if something good happens he's grateful to god and he praises god it's the mindset of belief were they doing wacko things getting hold of a black cat getting hold of this animal doing some kind of weird no in fact they seemed rather strange they didn't have odd ritual i mean they seem to bow down to to no statue they seem to just do something but they do it in this rhythm and union and and other than that they seem to be these very
s well-spirited ambitious confident happy you could say what's he so happy about seems ever so happy yeah people thought i want in on that what do you know that i don't know you worship one god god we can't even see okay let me try it
on you want to show the path the the way to your lord show it like this with wisdom show it by just being a source of positivity and and and just well-being the person thinks wow what the hell is this guy so happy about what's his secret i want in on that i'll have whatever he's having and this is how like wildfire the beam of positive iman spread
people tried it their lives started to improve why wouldn't it if you break away from superstition your well-being will radically improve you will start to feel it you know what if you if it improves you're more positive if you're more positive your immune system is better you're more healthier you live longer better things happen to you you're more optimistic you're more confident in life you attain more opportunities you see whatever you put out comes back with that frequency
it comes back so if you had tried it at that time if you and i had lived in that iran we saw these people thought what the hell these guys so cheerful about let's try what they do all of a sudden our lives would naturally improve so this and people it's it's a shame and i feel that sometimes this is done in it's done sometimes contemptuously that it's not that people can't think that this could be a reason but they
that won't be the reason i feel that there's an element of you know this partiality prejudice and contemptuous outlook on saying huh what could they have had that would have made them so positive but they were you know they they brought a positive stoicism and you still see it even today in the muslim world honestly you see it in the most poverty stricken of places when i was in pakistan i used to when i was studying i remember
on an occasion on there was a tragedy that uh my uncle who used to he was a a police inspector and he used to run a crime unit in karachi may allah bless his afterlife i mean and he he always had this this he had like a little team and there was one of these uh the officers that would often be with him always he'd come to the it'd come to our house and sometimes they would i would see him at the station the station the police station he was at by the way was right next door to the madrasa so i would always pop in and he had his own kind of little unit it's a crime unit and so
i would always pop in and i used to be so curious oh like i should be like oh okay can i sit here just watch what's going on here's the thing i'm insane like why would you want to spend a day in the police station watching what's going on i'd be like oh my god see people getting arrested and seeing so right and so precise to see this this officer with him uh all the time great guy very friendly may allah bless him however he is now and his family but uh there was an incident where they were involved in a car in a car in an accident so they were chasing some criminals
and there was like a car chase or they were in a car vehicle and they'd gone into this like what was a building and i don't know exactly how but the other people i don't know what they did whether it was something they knocked or whatever but the building wasn't built so well but a part of it they they structured it or they did something that a part of that wall collapsed on this on the vehicle so i don't know whether they had that set up before as a strategy or but this is what they did or there was an accident maybe one of the vehicles drove into something
but part of the building with the walls and other things and part of the roof collapsed on this vehicle my uncle was in it he got injured um had some stitches and uh but but he was okay his partner uh became paralyzed um you know waist down and he was first of all i think in some i don't know i think a coma or something and he came and but he was paralyzed and i remember going i was i was so you know just just horrible to to see and learn of what had happened and i i went to visit
him with my uncle and honestly i was really i was even more shocked by his attitude because i hadn't seen things like this in you know in this part of the world we don't see that because there's just a different mindset his attitude honestly and these were just regular people they're not like holy people or yeah they were regular police officers from karachi his thing was just he just said
he just said like oh you know you know look it happened you know allah will take care of us honestly i was just so just dumbfounded and just shocked beyond belief in in a good way but i just hadn't seen such a brave stoic faithful spirit in the face of tragedy before and i was wowed by it and i saw echoes of
that in society at large i used to see people that would be in the worst of situations and they would say you know the lord basically the lord watches over us you know the lord is my shepherd it's the same kind of thing so and this spirit exists and it really seeing that in people is so empowering just even seeing it so yeah
yeah like what a state of redhaw these people have they do wallahi and it's in its in a way when we see it embarrasses us that how we don't have that it made me very conscious that what i lacking and i thought wow you know yeah people let's move on um
i mean i mean ah i don't think you would see [Laughter] hindustani it is how can i be reading all this poetry and you're thinking [Laughter]
[Music] so what i'll do is i'll get the the link and we'll share this and we'll have some people coming on i don't think i shared any any kind of fun story today did i everything is very intense intense intensity you know there needs to be something a bit uh you know to light in the mood share something before we go on
so let's let me guys hmm speaking of strange outlooks on life ah
let me share an incident his wants and perspective speaking on perspectives huh you know we've spoken previously about um the poets frozdak anjarir the the duo these they couldn't stand each other and what's interesting though is when one of them dies the other one is so heartbroken it's amazing you see sometimes in life you may have an antagonist
but that antagonism is needed for there to be life you know those sometimes you need that restlessness to be alive and it's interesting we don't know how certain structures are held up in the kind of metaphorical substrate of things because it's with agonists and antagonists that time we just don't we don't know and yeah so anyway first up
let's take fresda as an example what a strange or a strange name um an incredibly colorful character shall we say speaking of turbulence and things going on everybody is aware of in the time of the sahaba there was the whole fitna of the khawarij and this is going after that into the tub in time so
what happens is several people in combating the hawari or dealing with them people you know people unfortunately were killed and stuff like this it is in this time that we meet our character from banita [Music] and what happens is from his relatives is a woman now this is the kind of the story came to mind i thought i might as well share it right so what happens is um
in his time one of his uh relatives this lady called noir she finds herself without any family because their family are killed by the khawarij there were these extremists and and she's getting by you know she's surviving there's other people helping her so she gets to a point where she thinks you know what i want to get married as one does and so she thinks right i need a like i want to set it up like you know i've got a few prospects and people will be coming and proposing so i should have
like a welly so she thinks let me set a wally who should i choose as a wally so she approaches frozdak and she says to us that look you know this is my situation you you know my situation family or father's died and all this has happened and would you care to be my willie so um first
frustrated he says a good deed and waste a moment of course at your service milady so he says yes of course he says i would be the willie so he says you know what we'll do let's let's formalize it so he gets a few people together and he says he says guys i just want you to know that i here um the legal guardian for noir and you know i'm going to in terms of her marriage and everything everybody yeah yeah noir is that do we have a yes she says of course of
course i conquer icon girl cool people all right that's all good we got it okay disperse this verse then what he does is he says he says to noah oh oh about the marriage thing she says oh look i i think you know there's a few guys are going to come a few suitors to to marry you know to propose he says oh about that there's no need he says i've already sorted it she said you sorted my marriage he says you know my middle name is efficacy efficiency is
my middle name he says i've already married you off says huh what to who he says to me [Laughter]
uh so she goes what he goes yeah i'm married as the guardian he says i looked for the best suitor and i thought yeah who could be a more fine suitor than me so i thought in your interest i married you to me [Laughter] so what happens is she says that what on earth is this nonsense you can't do that he says i can because you're the one who in front of everyone gave me the power of attorney to marry you off
and i looked for the fine suitor and lo and behold i was the best so i fulfilled my duty so and he deep down proper fancies this noir so she says look i'm not having this and he says well it's a bit late for that love because i've already you're in my neck so you start as a poet you start saying poetry about her but she's not having it she says that this poetry won't win me over he says some very nice flattering uh words of majestic words
that may melt the heart but it wasn't working for noir so during this time she says i've had enough i've i'm going to this is the time when abdullah ibn zubair the sahabi radhiallahu had most of the muslim world had pledged their allegiance to him he was based in mecca so in case you guys didn't know frazzler and jared by the way um who i believe spent their time in the nurtures region and stuff like that but they were affiliates of
zubaid abdullah the zubaida dynasty they weren't aligned with bani umayya they used to pledge their allegiance to abdullah ibn zubaid later on they make a shift but so she says nawar says i've had enough of this i'm going to makkah because it's not ever so far i mean it's far but it's not uh and she says i'm gonna go to abdullabness obey who's the caliph i'm gonna report this and seek his assistance so she sets off so
first what a name though the name is like a character you can make a cartoon out of this person or definitely a series he thinks yeah problem here this is one big problem he says you called the police on me i called the police on you he says i'm setting off to make as well i'm going to complain here they go mega confusion she's going to complain he's going to complain so he says i'm going to complain that
you're my wife and you're not this is insubordination insurrection so i'm not nice you know so so what happens they they both get to makkah abdullabness obeyed is busy obviously is the caliph so sometimes it can take a day or two before you you know get to meet the caliph he's obviously sorting out a lot of things so sh they think both of them think you know what before we get to him we need someone to put in a good word to him because abdullah in his way he was a
strong character a very strong man and you know somebody of he didn't have time to waste he wasn't one of these kind of uh you know sit around you're gonna joke with him and things like he was very serious you know men of steel and so they both think look when we get there what we're going to do is uh we're going to like let's put we need someone to put in a good word so when nawar gets there she looks and finds um
the wife of abdullah zubair she she finds her and she tells and so she she finds her and she kind of like spends the day with her explains to her look this is what's happened sees this he thinks oh he's got that close he's got to the wife he says yeah i need to get closer so he thinks let me look for his son so abdullah zubaid's son who's whose his name's hamza he says let me find hamza he finds hamza now remember he's a celebrity
he's a poet it's like today how you have singers and in fact it's even bigger than singers because poets back then one they were like celebrities as in how you look at singers or actors but also they were like the the propaganda machines so they were like uh media so basically like cnn bbc this was like poets because whatever they wrote a poem about everybody you know took it and spread it far and wide so for us that goes to hamza and he tells him yeah you know this this is hamza says don't worry i've
i'm going to put in a good word to my dad on the other hand the wife bento mandur i've forgotten the actual name but it is um what they call her i know it's uh ibn tu mandu ribnes uh ibn zaban okay so ibn mandur so she goes and and puts in a good word as well like they both go so the next day frisdak and his wife turn up to up to lebanon subway and they say and they start telling the incident so they're both sitting there
abdullah james obey listens to them and he says to us that that you be quiet and he asks noah that what's going on so she says look uh you know i don't want to marry him and and he says enough said she didn't want to there's no compulsion nobody should be forced to be in a relationship so when he says this for usd gets a bit wound up obviously he's celebrity even so he gets up and he and he says and these
their poetry was like this epic and they would just say epic poetry like that so he says as he gets up he says this poem he says he says he says he says as to his sons philip their good word intercession was of no use
and he says whereas the intercession of ibn manduri who's his wife got accepted and he says and it's true that the intes the the the the one who intercedes the intercessor the one who comes to put in a good word the shafia the what the shafi who comes to you wearing comes to you in clothes
meaning his son or anyone who comes to you in clothes is not like the one who comes interceding whilst naked like hinting at his wife like meaning that of it's obvious isn't it i told your son to put in a good word but where does he stand when she told your wife who's obviously somebody who's going to be naked with you so you're obviously going to listen to her this is this is his poem he says
so he says this abdullah zubair flies into a rage he grabs him they say he grabs frustr by the throat up against the wall and people have to come to say look leave him leave him leave him please please and they they have to intervene and they have to and he's got him by this but it does not let go he's like how dare you remember this is he's and he's a sahabi of the prophet sallallahu alaihi he's not a nobody you know this is
somebody huge one of the greatest people in islam he's you know on the uh when uthman's uh was his home was laid that was under siege the the companions some of them that would sit on guard on duty and othman told him eventually to go but was abdullah in his way like one of the the most outstanding companions i mean he's from he's a very young company his father was from the ashram and also a cousin of the prophet and he's one of the only companions they say one of the only people in islam who
uh had like such kind of warrior techniques like his father used to have they say zubaid was the one of the only few arabs that could whilst horseback fight with two swords i mean this is the kind of legacy he's coming from and you can imagine right so this person saying this to him that oh well it's obvious isn't it you're gonna take her word because she got your wife to come who comes naked to you so he was in a rage and he's like what the hell i'm not gonna let him go so people intercede and they they you know they say intervene and say please please please they break it up
and abdullah zubair says to nawar he says not only are you free of his nikah he says that if because of this nikah which was against your will you see because remember they've he's been with her he's kind of consummated the marriage and all this stuff they've been there so he said i'm going to treat that like rape basically because this this is not on and his attitude is not on and i will have him punished which is basically capital punishment like how dare he take a woman
against her will and you know and and be like this and have such a belligerent attitude so now obviously this is terrifying for people so some people so for us that's kind of held and nawar is happy that okay that talk has happened and everything but you know here is an interesting twist see sometimes some people this comes back to the theme on your destiny some people they are not happy with certain things
because it's not their choice regardless of the thing per se sometimes some people they don't mind something but it's the fact that they didn't get a choice in it that makes them detested i'll give you an example so in this case when abdullah zubaid says to her that she's you know you you are free from this he does he's not gonna be he's not your husband and you're free she thinks about it
and she thinks well you know what he's not actually a bad person like okay he's bad but he's not bad to me you see because nobody is entirely evil in that sense like he he says all this poetry he's always been charming me he's always been trying to spend money on me he's like always flat he's always so kind to me and whether okay he may be foul-mouthed to other people and he may do stuff but to me and he's it's not like i mean i'm sure in terms of stature and in terms of his people you know he's got dignity he's a celebrity at the end of the day he's got
an x amount of respect and so she kind of thinks about it and thinks you know what i don't mind him being married but here was the crux of the issue but it's my choice now see this is it comes back to own your destiny like sometimes the battle the thing is going on in the and in the heart it's not even the situation sometimes people don't mind the situation but it's that why did i not get a choice in it you see and so she says to abdullah zubaid you
know what she says look i've she comes back to him like by the end of the day and she says look i thought about it and i don't mind him actually as a husband i just felt that it was wrong the way it was done and now that you've kind of empowered me and now it's my choice my doing i'll choose him because he's been actually very kind of he has been to me good so so she actually choose and this obviously frozduck just about escapes
he just he was about to get executed these guys he's like whoa allah saved me again and he goes back to basra they moved to basra with nawar and you know they spent so many years um having an epic they do have an epic kind of bond for many years it does fizzle out towards the end he says so much poetry iconic poetry dedicated to noir the kind of romance for at least a few years was well known she has several children with uh fresda and as
like a decade later they have the ups and downs and eventually she goes on to seek a divorce from him and he he does divorce her they she gets a divorce but many years later but during her time with him most of it up until before the end she um she actually says that it was you know we had some very good days together like a lot of it was spent in a lot of joy and they had some crazy time because you see fresno
maybe not in the early years but later on he was a serial he became the serial womanizer and he would not um well if he saw someone he'd get like especially if he got infatuated with a woman he would just kind of like chase her and sometimes try to say all this poetry and try to seduce her and and he would try it on and sometimes if he thinks there's a bit of a thing he would just try like i mean physically try so as abominable as that is but this is what he would do for usda so there was an incident with nawar with there's a woman that she kind of
engaged a bit with frasdex of razdak soy as a green light and he starts kind of chasing her around town and she's she thinks look i'm i've had enough of him and he starts turning up to where she lives and and he's trying it on a bit physically and she's not having it but so she reports it to nawar and this this i mean that's a tragic incident but and i want to tell you it's so bizarre she tells noah this is what's happening with your husband so she says okay and what what did he say she so he's she says that he came to me and he was trying it on and he said
meet me at this place tomorrow in this location you know a romantic location romance will do the romance man because so nawaz says ah okay cool what to do is meet him there tomorrow i'm gonna be there as well but i'm gonna be in hiding so so they make this plan so what she does is she says turn up with this kind of nikop show him that it's you and then come into this place so she does she goes into that place but then she exits and noir is there with this nikop and she follows through into
this dark place and fresno is like over the moon that yes this is a total green light you know this is this is happening man what is love so he rushes in chases after it's dark and he just starts he starts and he starts the deed and so he starts the deed and and nawar is is with him at it and then when he when the deed is done when the deed is done she speaks
she says to him like something like god damn you and he he recognizes the voice he goes huh noir is it you because it's dark in the place so she says yeah who did you think it was you thought it's the other woman so he says this obviously he's a poet of the arabic language so he says this muscle what became a proverb proverbial he says [Laughter] he says he says ma because by this time their relationship had kind of deteriorated he
says he says he says you know as something that is halal he says um like it's so tasteless with you but as something that is haram wow it was so it was so amazing because he it what he's trying to say is i thought it was i thought it was the other girl and this was so epic and passionate and then it turns out to be you and i'm thinking haha this and this is the crazy story and the lifestyle of these were some wacko people in very in the very
first early century of islam but there's a lot of stories they've left and a lot of arabic poetry that is definitely worth reading people that's enough right let's put this link in and let's wrap this up and let me let me get to some early beauty sleep as well so people there you go i've shared the link let me just check it's gone in uh to the chat stream it has
a story sounds like pina colada's song i haven't heard of that song people there you go i've shared the link let me just take out as well rather whilst you guys are doing that i'll have to switch on the bluetooth i've shared the link um all right let me just open this up bring out the bluetooth devices where is this uh audio
just connect that let's see okay sha allah that should be done let me just check that's active i'm just gonna do a quick i have to do a sound test to make sure yep that's we
[Music] um got physics with mathematics academy love from kashmir may allah bless you guys kashmir heaven on earth may allah bless it i mean right so uh we've got some people guys so i've shared the link what i'll need you to do is switch on your dash as let's say dash cam switch on your your webcams
and i will get you on let me mm-hmm right who do we have here right device not connected guys you need to switch the the webcam got another webcam oh okay welcome right where are you joining us from oh i'm in london london
all right shukran shukran for joining us at this vampire hour i have to say so how are you doing and what's on your mind what would you like to share with this authority um question or or just yeah what's what would you like to say uh my question is like why did god create anything like why did he decide to create things
why did god decide to create anything as opposed to nothing nothing yeah that is i guess in some ways that question is heidegger's sledgehammer isn't it that why is there something as opposed to nothing this is what he begins his kind of treaties with because although that at the face of it may seem a simple question it's infinitely complex but why is there something as opposed to nothing
allah chose he chose for there to be something as opposed to be nothing in his infinite wisdom we can speculate we can say any guest can be as good as another um i would i would say that see it's not necessary in any way to for god to create something but it was maybe maybe it's to display
the the positive i say in a positive like the power of the power of will and then that manifested as humans because humans have to exercise that power and is it exercised responsibly or irresponsibly it all kind of plays out i and but none of this is necessary by any means but god chose it so i i don't know really what what what what would you like to say on that or is this
because that's just so so much i mean to and i've got no idea where if anything could ever suffice as an answer um when you when you say like god code uh do you think god like has free will like us so you can choose one thing or you can do something else is that what you mean
yeah god has will yeah of course um so if you say god will something to be so in arabic the term um they do say mashiach as well like so from the word sha allah like insha allah or masha allah comes from willing or wishing but another term as well that is used as allah god can be translated as will or want but yeah in essence chose for the to for something to be you know it's interesting because from the scientific perspective
mata why does matter exist because mata upon contact with antimatter self annihilates you yeah and just as you have any particle you have its you'll have its anti-particle okay so mata there is antimatter and when mata and antimatter meet they self-annihilate both of them cancel each other out so the question is
and that is that that's factual but the question is so how did mata preponderate like why did mata then go on to exist because it should have entirely after the big bang it should have all just evaporated again because of the antimatter making contact but for some reason a tiny proportion of mata proponderated so it kind of it created a an impairment a disimbalance which results in it succeeding and i feel in some ways it's poetic that you see
almost if we are to personify and i know this is great poetic license and dramatic license at play here but if we are to personify let's say mata and antimatter some have argued some elements of antimatter are much more powerful than ma than the mata correlates that at this anti-matter as let's say symbolically representing i mean this is a lot of dramatizing here but symbolically representing evil and mata in that place of good you have a
primordial play of this good versus evil since time immemorial where even though they're the immense power of this antimatter yet mata preponderates and goes on to flourish a a if looked at with the with aliens is a beautiful uh i don't know performance of of uh of existence i i don't know but i i think it's amazing when looked at in that way but yeah what are your thoughts on it for him
oh on the um on the free will um i wanted to say that if god like knows everything and he knows what he's gonna see [Music] because time is but an illusion it doesn't really exist in the way we think it exists so we obviously perceive it though so to us it's real from our perspective but it isn't actually real real so that's interesting
because i guess it would be a kind of timelessness then in which sense i guess everything is happening happened and to happen simultaneously um yeah i mean it's it's it's it's very perplexing but that's physics you know that's not see and i i tell you i love this about our day and age i love that this it is where the mystique
is uttered and manifested in the sciences see we've reached that era where they converge because people have said these things since time immemorial but they've been just kind of brushed off as just mystical talk but now it's been demonstrated in physics but this is the the or at least you know obviously it's it's it's the explanation amongst let's say a few explanations but this is a powerful scientific explanation now it's
not this is not mystical talk this is you know powerful scientific talk in saying well looking at how astrophysics works this seems to be an illusion so so all right so apart from trying to figure out the will of god for him what else preoccupies your your mind at this at this uh godly hour um well when you were talking about the uh harams i was wondering if
it's allowed in islam to have to have sex with most people at the same time to have watery to have sex to have to have sex with multiple people at the same time [Laughter] [Music] we need some therapy here
so i'm sure the sultans of the past didn't really care much about what people thought about i mean i don't think they were doing it in public public but in their private harams i'm sure they were so yeah but i i don't think it do you mean a strict scholarly ruling is that what you mean like what would the scholars say the ulama i love how even in the most intimate and the most kind of intima or plunging moments of heightened sexuality one still ponders i
wonder what the ulama would say [Laughter] in that deep moment of sensuality one thinks yad but what would maulana saab say yeah what what does he think about this right now i do i do love the the commitment and the devotion to our respected clergy may allah bless them um so you see the scholars as always would be divided i think most would say no and i think some would probably say it's it's macro and haram it depends on like it depends if they if they kind of all
within the same what do they call it now you know you're you know when you're quarantining what's your is it pod or what's your group your uh yeah i think is it a pod what's the what do they call it people you know when you're in quarantine and you have your your kind of uh a group that you're allowed to mingle with so so basically if it's that no i was just checking if somebody had your bubble that's it not pod your bubble oh yeah yeah so if it's your so so those lamar would
feel that if it's your sugar and clear if it's your bubble it's a yeah this is our bubble don't worry so for example co-wives and in their case they would say coke on cuban age co-concubines and so it's their bubble so they for example he writes about it in his how we little fatal he actually discusses this masala amongst other scholars do as well so i think they would put it towards the kind of discouraged but maybe not haram but i think the majority would probably
say haram still so i don't think so if in that moment of heightened sensuality you were wondering what is i wonder what maulana saab thinks about this thinks not well about it it's been epic i appreciate the the questions and you know just just pulling your concerns out there going from the will of god why the ultimate biggest why to one of the most courageous and daunting house
may allah bless your journey right for him shukran right people that was for him from london of rye some very interesting questions right there um it's good it's good i i like it man you know people they so who have we got here we've got tom tom potts with it am i reading that right tom potts yes hi how you doing i'm good tom how are you doing where are you joining us from tom based in sydney australia yes of course
all right welcome welcome man thank you for likewise likewise so what what what would you like to share with us any thoughts any what's on your mind tom yeah sure so other interesting scenarios what's on your mind in the land down under people what's going on over there land down under land where all the convicts got sent um yeah so i guess just full disclosure i'm actually a christian and um welcome yeah i've uh obviously australia is a multicultural
place and so i've had um quite a few um muslim friends and my particular church that i go to is the official name is the church of jesus christ of latter-day saints people call us mormons as a popular name you've probably got someone obnoxiously knocking on your door at like 7am on a saturday morning um and it's it's it's interesting um i'm i'm pretty interested in religion and uh i've read parts of the quran i haven't read any of the hadiths and to be honest i'm probably a lot
less well-versed on islam than say judaism or other branches of christianity but i think my question was i'm not sure how much of um sauron kirkegaard you've read uh have you read any of his i i've i've come across kierkegaard's um i mean he's obviously leading in existentialism and perhaps at the forefront of bringing this whole uh you know bringing it to the forefront in in what it is but yeah do what uh do you share with us yeah yeah so i guess probably where i'm going with it
is kirkegaard talks about obviously he was danish denmark was obviously a christian country at the time and he talks about that there's kind of like two uh forces at play at least in christianity and this is where i'm coming to he says that there's two centers uh sort of a thought there's athens and then there's jerusalem jerusalem is spirituality it is um you know your connection with the divine athens is rationality
and he talks about that there is a obviously a dichotomy at play in christianity where there's a melding of rationality and spirituality and his position is it has to be either one or the other and then that's where we get those sayings of you know the leap of faith where you abandon all rationality and you just devote your entire life to god yeah i just wanted to understand do you think that there is [Music] i was going to say i was going to say and this is why he also argues that to
have to rationalize your faith is a weakness of faith because this whole thing is that that demonstrates that only a person of weak faith would need to even justify or have proofs for his faith just going in line with that whole leap of faith but yes sorry i interrupted you you were saying oh yeah islam yeah i think i think there might be a bit of lag so i think i'm talking over you and then you're talking about me um i was just going to say do you think that there is a that same dichotomy at play in islam that there is
almost a battle between more rational muslims and then you i don't know how to say it any other way other than i guess more mystical followers because if you think about christianity i think um and i mean this ties into politics as well but the christian world was dominated by the catholic church for a thousand thousand plus years and it wasn't until um uh martin luther and the protestant um movement came about that there was that sort of separation
yeah or rationality and faith um do you think that that is that that is something that is going to be coming through islam as well as what happened with the christians or do you think sure i mean of course i mean yes of course in different ways but yes of course i mean these are um symptoms of the human condition so wherever you wherever there'll be humans there'll be these issues but even in christianity i i i agree with the with these two kind of um archetypal points as athens and
jerusalem but that said i don't feel that the church necessarily was i don't think that the like christianity playing out was in the sense gravitating just to these two but that these would have been maybe um a minority under all circumstances so the church for the most part i would feel wasn't i mean and this is gonna sound i suppose from i'm coming at this from as a psychologist now just like a a social
scientist you see i would feel that the church because it was institutionalized religion it was not about spirituality in the sense of jerusalem i would rather see agree with it as a different sense of constantinople it was kind of more about power with religion so yes it was it was important to them i don't i'm not doubting i'm not saying they were didn't believe in what they believed and they did but it wasn't about spirituality necessarily in fact i think it was more about the the
just that the having to suff i suppose it's a bit like evolution survival instinct of the faith as a living organism so the rationality was often not welcomed not often not always welcomed by the church institutionally neither was it the way of the ascetics you see i would see the jerusalem thing more as the ascetic saints and people a more hermitic kind of lifestyle that is devoid and not interested in power as
jesus himself would have been so i think so when we say these two i do like the two archetypes but i don't think for most of christianity it was between these two archetypes i think both of these archetypes were minorities um throughout christian history and i think in in the muslim case as well you find similar struggles but different i mean they're characterized by their own environments and landscapes so islamically we didn't have this cons i don't know about we didn't have but islamically there wasn't the papal
legacy did not really continue so islam chose a different part so it began as fertile territory they could have been i suppose a papal legacy in the sense as a caliph let's say so the caliph as it begins in early islam one would assume it holds i mean there's the statutory power kind of element but they are also the leaders of the faithful in religious matters so in the what they call the the rashidun caliph
and some could see maybe one or even after that up until the early episodes some caliphs even though they don't have that same kind of respect but they still try on some occasions to do things like let's leave let's lead the hajj annually for example many of them some won't but many of them will try and revive that time and time again let's go to the hajj haruna rasheed is doing it his sons are doing it they're trying to show people that we are also the authority on faith as well the caliph and i think that was actually what was behind one of the first earliest
inquisitions in islam which was the caliph moon and the inquisition of the quran being created one created was about showing his authority but shortly after that the the caliph just become kings and they're not interested in trying to be religious leaders so for the most of islamic history they weren't religious leaders they were just i mean they were obviously they still had the title but they weren't trying to be that and the scholars in islam were an independent entity so it gave it a very different nuance like there wasn't this battle between see whereas in christianity the
the church was the priesthood which was the power whereas in the muslim world you had the kings who were the k were the kings or caliphs or dinasts whatever they had an entire political structure the governors and whoever and then scholars were totally separate to them they weren't part of that elite i mean they were separate they become a class unto themselves so the power wasn't it was quite separate then so it gave it a totally different nuance so in islam there was never so people ask sometimes
will islam have its kind of uh martin luther and it's kind of protestant movement of trying to separate the state from uh religion but it never had that problem to start off with it had it i'm not saying he never had problems but never had that problem so if that was not really an issue for it to separate and within it they were coming to your point they were if i can call them schools or directions that were very rational very rational as in everything in fact very s so much as they were entirely
philosophical almost like avicenna ibn sina you had kindy you had all these people being very incredibly everything is about reason philosophy um two people who were just very spiritual and hermitic like hermits and mystical they were just more about that that's from early as well islam coming down but then also you see you had people who i think for the most part in islam they probably were somewhere in between wavering
so they so most sunni muslims claim in the books and they usually claim that this is a faith of reason and it is built upon reason uh so in the textbooks it says this in all the kind of uh in the major kind of creed books it will always say this faith is built on reason but then because of sectarian dynamics they they do have to they draw a line themselves they say oh but we always give supremacy to revelation and this then becomes a question that what does that exactly mean supremacy to
reasonable revelation and this we still find today people are kind of debating over so i agree with you that there's definitely there's been these nuances and they continue to to kind of um happen and and debate each other and and they have to i guess because it's it's just symptomatic of human beings there will be some human beings that will see things you know maybe a hundred percent rationally and some maybe eighty percent some people maybe emotionally some people maybe just mystically so yeah but all of these things do exist
they all exist within islam like as we speak and through time since the very beginning yeah i don't know if that i think i may have kind of just gone on and lost i think i think i need myself to learn a lot more about islam and i realize that i probably have a quite a superficial understanding but thank you for your time and i appreciate it very welcome i and i appreciate you joining us and watching and tuning in and i and i commend you and seriously i
uh congratulate you as well that you know in a day and age like this it's i think to have an open mind regardless of what a person's own stand their standing is whether what faith that you being a christian or whether a person is even if they don't believe in any faith but to have an open mind which is driven by curiosity i mean that is a gem in this day and age and i i really i i'm very grateful that you've come on here and just even just this interaction is in that sense priceless so thank you
and we look forward to seeing you on the lives people tom potts from australia all right so guys from down under you've got right there the land of kangaroos so let me see who have we got here darth vader darth i like it i like it how are you keeping what's going on yeah good man you see that name here but
i'm shocked you ain't seen star wars man you know as a kid i did i think the early ones but i i never for some reason i never gravitated towards that kind of cult watching of so i just i just didn't find it interesting i don't know why that's a good question i need to introspect that wide neither star wars nor star trek as a movie critic man seriously you need to watch the best movie ever made i think you know what i think i think i'm not so drawn to sci-fi
i think that's it but that kind of sci-fi you know like a small amount of sci-fi like let's say the terminator or stuff like this is is is fine but the whole thing like let's say spaceships and all this stuff i just didn't i don't know like i didn't find myself drawn to it and i would be drawn to other kind of movies but yeah so maybe that was it maybe it's the sci-fi genre yeah it's a cross between sufism politics and uh theater and i need to you you know you know it's uh it's george lucas isn't it the uh
the director so he was a uh from what i believe a good friend of sheikh abdulkadar sufi ian dallas who i believe influenced him and he was inspired by sheikh abdul qader ian dallas about the whole sufi murid relationship which i believe he then sets as the theme in in you know in in star wars so that's that whole kind of disciple thing is inspired from what i'm aware of by him
learning from ian dallas this whole sufi kind of tariqah because shaykh abdulkadar himself was into it so often he himself became a kind of sheriff that had murids and so and he was from those upper echelons of society shall we say the upper upper classes not not the likes of us clebs you know they they were a different elite class of people i guess yeah right so today's question right for you is going to be um basically i remember once watching a
video of yours and you mentioned something about noah um yeah his age being a thousand less 50 right and you said that there could be two counting systems i mean there could be multiple counting systems not just two but yeah yeah well given that well in the ground it mentions two numbers right so it can only be two specific counting systems right
no right okay i mean i'm not sure when you say two counting systems what are the two counting systems that we're referring to just so i know what we're talking about systems um well we take for granted that everyone counted to 10 for instance right so we call that base 10 right yeah because we currently use a base 10 um counting system the romans for instance used to use a base 5 accounting system right so i've been looking into this and i believe that there's so many people use i think
people some people had 13 they had i think 27 as a baseline the 60 as the sumerian kingdoms had as they they would often use it's called a sexagesimal kind of counting system and even certain research shows in places like i believe papua new guinea it's interesting how they cancel from the hands then it goes to the wrist then the elbow shoulder then it'll go to the ear then the nose is in the middle so it's an odd number that they have and then on the other side so it's if you it these are as diverse as human settlements so yeah
well if you apply the base five counting system to the number 1000 it gives you 125. if you minus 50 from that which is the base 10 number so you get that sorry you lost this go go step up what did you say we start from so basically i think that the in the verse and the grant i think it's alluding to do two different counting systems one was the one that was pre-arab accounting system which would have been base five which the romans were using so when the i guess when the bible was canonized it would have been about phase five counting system right okay so obviously
time during the profits time the arabs would have been using a base 10 accounting system so i think it might be alluding to the fact that you know clarifying the misconceptions that it wasn't 950 years that noah lived for he lived for basically a thousand as in a base five number which would be 125 minus 50 which is the base 10 number which gives you 75.
so so the thousand is what how are we getting the thousand so if you convert the 1000 from base five to base ten it gives you 125. right just explain just so we follow just so we follow it's not the outcome i i know the outcome already of what we're saying but just just to understand how you're beginning with 125 just so we understand that how are you beginning with 125 so i take so when you're saying base five yeah so basically all right what's this count your times so you're multiplying
five yep sorry carry on yeah oh you don't multiply five um right so we also going with this now um so the basically when you look at the quran when everybody looks at the ground they see things differently right so a mathematician that's looking at the ground will see things differently to someone who's a scientist who might see the quran they'll see certain verses differently so my background is more like accountancy mathematics so when i'm looking at that verse i see an equation i see a mathematical equation sure so when i take that mathematical
equation put it into algebra now the two factors i need to solve are the uh is it uh i can't know the words is it something like that x minus fifty y one thousand minus yeah minus fifty y sure right but we know what y is because that's
you know um that would be base 10. so we just need to know what x is what base is x in so if x is base 5 that would give you when you convert it so if you bring up a converter because you know this base thing just to understand how you're converting it so when you're saying 50 um which is let's say 50 y you said so that's base 10 so what are you saying in essence it's what five no 50 is 50 in basement 50 is 50 yeah 50 accounts for 50 years
that number is already a basic number okay so that that number remains intact now the other number the 1000 you're dividing that are you dividing no so you're converting it so the way that you can't just take a thousand and think you're going to divide it by five and get into base 10. so it works like for instance okay you got five fingers on your hand right so you're counting one two three four and when you get to number five that number changes to a one that has in one hand and zero fingers so 5 would be written at 10 right
so if you keep going up like that so the next number will be so 6 would be written as 11. okay okay yeah i get it yeah yeah yeah yeah so seven you know and then when you get to like 10 that would become 20 because you got two hands now right okay right so if you keep going up to 1000 yeah that's actually just 125.
okay well okay sounds very interesting sure okay so it's 125. i mean that sounds obviously yeah of course but the question here would be the question here would be that you see when you say a thousand sana
why is it saying a thousand sana why because the arabs wouldn't normally say that unless they meant a thousand so the question is like why is it being said to because i get what you're saying if people were doing that but people didn't do that in the prophet's time so the question was because this is the question that everybody's gonna ask this is the same question they were asking me for example why is it being mentioned because if people don't count like that then like people in that time wouldn't be converting 1000 when they say a thousand
they would just mean 1 000. so yeah no but you've answered your question it seems like it's that word has been used differently to signify a different accounting system yeah of course of course of course no but that isn't that the same isn't that what i just said in my video yeah but what you did was oh okay okay okay yeah you're sure i mean i'm not yeah so you see because that what i had said was this was talking about
allah to a people that would have had some heritage like the jewish people with their tradition and there is the anti-deluge uh numeric system which is pretty much lost on us um but we have the deluge post-deluge kind of numeric system so if you look up in fact you can get it on wikipedia or google it the the name of the the kings the anti-deluge kings and the reign and this you'll you'll get a list of these rulers from the sumerian kingdom and they would it would state ridiculous numbers to how long they ruled but
nobody even the sumerians did not mean that the sumerians we know also used and i'm not saying that's used in this verse but they also used a 60 baseline so they would multiply everything by 60. this is why we have today 60 seconds in a minute and 60 minutes in an hour and we have 360 degrees because it's taken from the sumerian kingdom where they had a baseline of 60. so so we know that that but that's the sumerian but the anti-deluge what was that like we were not exact that's like pre-flood like what what what did they have so we know that they must have had some
something about numbers because when the kings are being spoken of it's being spoken in crazily absurd numbers like that's no way on earth going to be realistic like this person had 50 000 years and this person ruled for this long and they themselves admit in other places no it was only this many years in between so you know that hmm so when they're using these numbers they obviously have some weird kind of system so the quran for because would have been anti-deluge before the flood it was echoing that in my uh
in what i was saying but what was the exact counting system i'm not sure obviously this is refuting the claims of the christians and the jews from the bible that he lived for 950 years so wouldn't the ground be clarifying that it's not 950 years in you know how you know 950 years it's actually this number means this and minus 50.
sure i mean i i i i didn't think of it in the sense that is it as a refutation but i suppose it could be it could be but one could ask you see the only problem there is one could say well if it came to refute it like apparently most people didn't get it because they would say that well because most people actually still believe it so if it came with the objective to refute then it didn't do a good job because most people still today then believe what it was trying to refute so i would probably say it didn't come to refute and the verse doesn't sound
like it's refuting anything i would say that it was just once again like the quran says that it has come look like affirming the prior scriptures and so in this sense when it's speaking about noha and and the flood and it's mentioning certain things it refers to the age as well because that it was a prominent factor in the judea kind of tradition but it highlights different words and does it on purpose in a way that affirms
the narrative but also shows that it's not quite because the quran could have said quite easily 950 years he could have said this for example that's very clear 950 but it says oh it was 1 000 minus except with the exception of and then uses two totally different words in arabic to say yeah so it says 1000 years we use a different word with the exception of 50 use a different word for years um so it shows that um
there seems to be layers to this but at the same time it seems to be only for those who are interested in exploring it for other people it doesn't matter like they could just read it that's not the point the point is the overall story and nor ali salaam struggle with people that's the main point of the story and whoever ponders over this maybe they will have certain things opening up on them as well so i think yeah that's that's where i'm at with it but yeah um shukran darth vader you're doing it yeah you're doing it thank you for your time uh no likewise one more thing you don't have to answer
it now you could do it some other time maybe sure um okay i'm not sure if you've been seeing what's been going on with uh fareed and dr hani i haven't no right okay so he's basically calling dr honey like he used to do with you um and dr haney's taking the bait um would you like to offer him some advice like privately if you because i think he needs it um
because i was gonna say i don't think you know i'm not in touch with any of them um with dr hani or but sure i mean if somebody wants my my my advice very openly is that look there is no hate in that kind of thing i know to be fair i i did it myself for so many you know for so long and so i can say in some ways that you know when you do something yourself and you do it with passion and you get kind of embroiled in all of this
and then you later step away and see you can speak with experience and you can speak with experience of mistakes as well and you can speak with experience of development as well because so i can say that look i was well embroiled in all this stuff and one of the things that i realized as i'd kind of taken that step away and just been more mindful is that that these things are you know what they are
they are entertainment and it's not a healthy entertainment and when you're on it it it has a kind of gravity to it that it sucks you in and you remain locked in its orbit and and i'm not saying anything because i've been there and we've all been there but oh you know many of us have been there but once you do free yourself from this orbit and you can see it from a distance you realize this is not what the faith is about this is not it's not actually even it's not healthy from from an iman perspective it doesn't even leave you
honestly like i can tell because i used to do it and i can tell that it it leaves a darkness or a dark an imprint of darkness on your soul and you but you just at the time because you're in the moment and the momentum you go with it and you you kind of just tolerate or you just you do it like you don't think about it but from a distance you feel the the the difference of weight if i can use that word of the soul and you think yeah this stuff is so taxing on on on that and and this is why even to
furry my advice would be not that he would be interested in my advice but people had said to me i think several months ago they had said something and you know would you want to engage or do i said look i think all of these things are meaningless and i said that look i honestly from where i find myself now on the plane of consciousness i said that i think we proactively as everybody is a collective need to break that cycle of toxicity and you know one of the most difficult things a person can do if they don't like someone is make dua for them and that's
because it's it's difficult it's crazy because the person thinks i i'm going to really wish that person well you know i don't but this once a person can arrive at that maqaaam they can say you know what allah bless them keep them happy you know beyond that there is an enlightenment that can only be experienced and cannot be expressed in words and it is it is what the people call that kind of volk it is only it is something else and that's my words really to them but if uh dr herni i i think i did actually send him a message
a few months ago i think on instagram but i don't think it was him i think it's his team and they just said it was i think it was just like an automated reply because i had sent a message people had told me would you get reach out to him and ask him to be a guest on minecraft so i did but he said he was busy and i and that's it respectfully said so and i said yeah appreciate that but yeah if he wants to be in touch sure i i think sometimes people have to walk their own path and they have to arrive at their own understanding but yeah in the end a lot of this movement is everyone thinks they're the gatekeeper
of islam and that they're going to bring others to islam and it's like you guys don't understand that allah brings whoever he wants to islam this isn't this like that foundational belief here you know something i'm going to i'm going to say something which i think before i would have struggled to accept is i feel in essence you know at heart you know there was a we spoke of movies there's a movie i can't remember what it was called i watched it ages ago but there was this quote in it with the rim it they're in prison and it's like one of those kind of crime
movies but the point is the person he says he says we all began as somebody's little angel wants you see in light of that quote i do believe most outright most people are in essence the the origin it is stemming from a place of love for the theme i do i think now i do recognize that initially i wouldn't have okay i'm gonna be honest i would never have accepted that before but i stand
corrected but along the way that love is misplaced you see like like the reason i said that quote is he says we all began as somebody's little angel like meaning you know with their parents as kids but along the way people you see this toxicity corrupts people it takes people obviously it puts you into this cycle of hatred of um you know just spewing against people you get a fan following people kind of pick you up you do it more you and and this becomes your thing you see it becomes your thing that you react you
but in essence i do believe a lot i believe all of these people honestly even like even farid even this isn't about him but let's say even salafis who before i'd spoken against different people examining now from this perspective i do feel that most if not all do start when it comes to the faith those who take it seriously do stem from a position of love but along the way there's distractions and then sometimes people derail themselves and they kind of go off that path but that that fuel in essence it does begin
with that so there is this yeah they're there you you've just basically described the tragedy of anakin skywalker have i [Laughter] oh that's epic man thank you for your time darth vader i appreciate it much love man take care of yourself people darth vader pleasant conversation masha allah may allah bless him so we've got life is now let me just see
um thanks for the information siraj okay siraj thank you i don't know when what the information was but shukran for spreading the information uh life is now vareva all right i like it i like it and speaking of life is now we've got life is now right here let's bring him up people let's beam him up scotty assalamu alaikum life is now okay alhamdulillah alhamdulillah allah bless you man how are you alhamdulillah i am so good abner
like can't be spoken of all right okay so it's it's really amazing that the uh the uh ayah that we talked about that you talked about earlier today and the lessons you know how much they ring uh in surah uh s
yeah and uh yeah i wanted to get your thoughts on how you do uh how do you think about this no there's so much i i think you know what one of the days i will actually go over that sure it's such a powerful it's something that i feel is so empowering and in fact you know in today in light of today's theme it really now that you say i thought i'm thinking you know what i should have gone over that surah because it's so putting
everything into perspective that alumni that the whole thing is speaking about struggles and about ease coming after struggles and about obviously it's addressing the prophet but by extension all of us and the struggles we face and people will have you know they even in this world they will have glory and they will have i i think it's it's absolutely empowering i love this bringing it up but what were your thoughts on it well it's it's very interesting um i i'm sure
you've heard of dr um of the at institute um by the way if you ever watch him watch him at like one and a half or two times speed uh and then otherwise people say that about me as well they say you know i watch move the 1.5 speed i'm like it's cool man you know what i do the same thing i'm not with myself but i do the same thing with other things when i'm watching i think yeah you know what let's speed it up a bit because i have got this many minutes and this is going to take this long so yeah you know [Music]
the the special matter is the thickness of the content you don't get it if you watch it too fast but in any case yeah yeah yeah it's really interesting because you know i uh i've been thinking a lot about this i don't i don't know if i feel like even within the hardship or whatever you were going through even within it not after it not necessarily after it but even within there is ease um you know you can have multiple dimensions of the ease let's say you know uh for example there's the uh i
don't know if you know any of these popular youtubers like jocko willank or whomever but uh you know he's got the mantra discipline equals freedom so in hardship discipline you know you get ease the freedom or you know the there's the uh the the pain of discipline weighs ounces whereas the pain of uh regret weighs uh tons you know sure so similar so that you've got the practical dimensions and you've got like uh or when somebody's in a flow state or a quote in the zone um when they're so engaged in the task and they're you know struggling
to let's say making a beautiful work of art and they're operating at peak you know neural efficiency and they're even in that state there's struggle like but there's a sense of timelessness and ease let's say in this in the struggle but those are i guess the more like material aspects of a struggle but even even in because my experience i work in a in a hospital and even my experience in the u.s medical system even in the struggle that doesn't have
this uh you know flow state even in then if you when you have actual thoraco there is a sense of lightning uh lightening of the load you know uh it's it's remarkable because i hadn't before you know things used to be so like like an uphill battle every time and there's only so much willpower you can muster to be working at 100 capacity the whole day licking alhamdulillah you know when you when you've got when allah is
with you you know it's it's like a it's like a self-perpetual motion machine or a self-perpetual engine that kind of just keeps feeding you and in that hardship you find the ease of maybe you know did i do everything the best i could did i do right by everybody did i when you struggle to make sure that you were perfectly just you were helpful or whatever dimensions of you know you're trying to organize your day by i think even i think that surah is like it like you said it kind of ties it all
kind of together in the assistant 100 100 yeah wow well i think that's that's amazing man and yeah exactly but the struggle never ends right because in a in a way allah says you know we eased your burden in the beginning uh but then the after if he says now stand up and exert yourself again so it's like a circle looping back that this yeah you're done with the struggle like in you can't rest on your laurels
and take it easy no such thing as retirement per se but you you just keep going and going and i suppose in many ways that you see there's always going to be struggles in life isn't there it doesn't it doesn't like like if we think about it look the and this is one of the you know this is the amazing nature seriously of the message and of the quran and the way it words it because right think about it look it doesn't matter where you are what part of the world what social class what anything you will always struggle will always
perpetuate the question is that it may characterize itself differently and manifest in different ways so first world struggles may be very different to third world struggles to you know different the middle class kind of problems may be slightly different to the working class problems slightly which may be different to the upper class problems but everybody is going through problems of their own they're not you know they they are it's it's it's just oh we obviously see things we we might see people we may think oh my god that person's gonna live in it
but everybody so this these verses by their nature address every single person with a certainty a constant that is certain in life which is the constant of struggle that their struggle equals growth in life you will need some kind of struggle whatever i mean it's necessary i mean i'm not saying we wanted we would i'm sure people would say you know i don't want any struggle but then you wouldn't develop because you'd be you wouldn't because if you think about it someone probably in your own life some of the greatest things may have been a result of going through some
turmoil you might think about your own life yeah well not just i mean how i'm just saying people how many times do they interview veterans and some of the most engaging moments of their lives are when they were in the thick of battle uh when they were like in it you know they were that those are the most memorable and the most like fond memories of i mean of course there's lots of elements of companionship and all of that involved too like yeah i and it's it's it's like it's like the i think part of it maybe has to do with
the dopamine circuit because what because the dopamine circuit is an approach circuit right you're when you're constantly at the approach when you're and not i mean there's a there's of course a there's release when you get to the goal licking it's not the same amount as when you're thinking about or getting to the goal you know it's it's like a constant okay what's next it's crazy you know because the you know when we study just we're only in many ways to scratching the surface but still it's it's fascinating strides that psychology has made and when we come to see how these things work in the brain the
rewarding system obviously dopamine is a crucial neurotransmitter that rewards you know it obviously will correlate i mean it does also deal with sensory motor action as well locomotion it does the but the rewarding system is immense and also the it's the kind of uh it's the pleasure uh neurotransmitter that's kind of doing its circuitry and it's involved in other things as well but the the point is that when we start reading some of how it works it's crazy it's like in fact i was going through
uh this this study on um human sexuality yeah so as one does when they're bored psychologically psychologically it was for him excellent questions uh very yeah much needed he was killing it he's he was like he's like yeah you know what i'm taking one for the team and i'm just going to say this out loud he actually other people think it he said it out loud no that's a point yeah so the thing is that now
studying um so this so these studies on human sexuality and it was looking at um it was looking at dimorphic and basically disparate behavior between uh male brain and the female brain and this there is actual difference in in activity with neural activity within the brain and there's different parts of the brain also there are similarities obviously but there's actually some crucial differences but and it was highlighting now check this this this is so bizarre it was saying that so the studies showed that if a
if um if a man looked at a picture of a woman that he found attractive and let's say it's he found her sexually kind of uh attractive and appealing it would trigger naturally you could assume that it would trigger dopamine in the brain however it wouldn't this is the this is the twist it says it wouldn't unless she was making some form of eye contact from the image so if she so so you've got this attractive woman now on this image that he finds sexually appealing
but if she's looking away dopamine is not released in the brain but if it seems as though she's making eye contact from the image he gets a release of dopamine now you think okay fair enough like he thinks there's some kind of contact and tk so the brain it seems to be making sense but then you see to compound and confound and confuse com populate the whole study you find that when he saw a woman like when when let's say the men in this study when they saw women that they did not find sexually attractive right okay no dopamine
release that's fine but if she looked away dope there was dopamine release from the unattractive women which is like what the hell is going on it's a little bit of zuma neurological zooming it's like i it's like what what on earth is going on in the brain it's like how does this thing operate man and so yeah it's just a mystery honestly um well but it's it's so fascinating to learn this stuff though um yeah so what you know it is so i was just seeing what the but yeah okay so there's a lot of that
so what else is that that was that was a good question that i i think you just uh assumed by it was like why can't we be developed by god without suffering i personally i mean of course i would love to i think suffering is integral and integral to the human experience because it's like so much of life is all about these contrasts right allah is who encompasses all these attributes like in our life if there is no sadness we can't actually appreciate or know act joy you know what doha said you can't appreciate that morning beauty
or the night without the other there's like at work you can't appreciate hard workers without without the lazy people absolutely and i'd like to just add to that you know especially in line with what we were just saying you know we spoke of dopamine and it's this kind of pleasure if we associating it with a kind of pleasure uh neurotransmitter and and sure that it does that amongst other things but you see to contrast it with serotonin you see because pleasure is not and it's often confused for happiness
you see serotonin is linked to happiness not to pleasure and it's interesting that the nature of these two as well you see dopamine is is excitatory it's an excitatory neurotransmitter in the brain whereas serotonin is mostly inhibitory it inhibits the the action of that region of those kind of axons so and serotonin is linked to your kind of well-being and people will get depressed for example if the serotonin levels aren't right and a sense of that kind of bonding and and you know being that peace
is linked with this so just just following on because from what we were saying and see so when people are saying suffering it's important to understand that yes at some level the you know whatever there is an indistinguishable level but beyond that there can be a difference between pain loss
trauma or tragedy let's say and suffering so these are things so let's say whether it's going to be pain whether it's going to be a tragedy whether it's going to be i don't know whatever these these are all to do with this so the surroundings and this is an input okay so this comes from without in so something happens to you something happens to someone some incident you actually hurt yourself this actual pain sensory pain
is being detected people often they think that is always a a synonym of suffering suffering is from in out it is the the meaning that you give to what's happened and then the output so yes there will be in the beginning there will be an indistinguishable amount so for example you hurt yourself like okay you know you've hurt your leg there's that there's that there is a momentary indistinguishable overlap accepted but beyond a point
there will be a choice even if you're negligent of it that the meaning you give to something will determine at times whether it is a suffering or not because somebody could say look somebody like we spoke of the story today of the maliki scholar uh jesus who stood against uh maule ismail and his and there was going to be immense suffering but he chose it now there was pain but to him that was his path one could say like almost like a christ-like path you know choosing that
thing it gives it a different meaning now the fact that the meaning changes to them yes there's pain but it's not suffering there's a kind of contentment but yeah i mean you know i just i just realized that i mean in the year of the sorrow i mean the prophet he go he goes through the death of khadija the death of you know abu talib tariff incident um and all these it's such a such a like a terrible year licking every time he has to get up in salah and sit and start with alhamdulillah which is praise and and mean it i mean i i'm
sometimes you know uh alhamdulillah most of my salazar i'm concentrating like he's the feeling he no but you know what i mean like he has to mean it because allah knows if he means it or not and if anyone's going to mean alhamdulillah it's him and he has to mean it at the lowest point of his life and and still come out of it without so so yeah there's so much tragedy that year liking there's no suffering it's it's that's a very good that's a very interesting point that you brought and i know
you know what i know it's getting very but you know on the final note i'd like to just wrap that on because of what you've just mentioned the because of the salah thing i i think it's really important to remind ourselves remind people that you know when it comes to our relationship with god don't think of it from a perspective of guilt or like right now let's just say because we mentioned the salah thing and we mentioned it even though we're joking but let's say being real as well uh
people in their salah how attentive are they are they even praying are they maybe they're missing certain prayers maybe they're praying none maybe some people are praying some maybe one maybe three maybe five whenever you as a person if you if you find it in you to stand in prayer don't see it as like oh you know i've got this long it's not don't see it like a debt like you're going to a an accountant to repay a debt like oh yeah i've got i borrowed this much is outstanding and this much is outstanding and this
see always as whenever you stand at that door allah is always pleased to hear from you it is never allah constantly says just just call on me i will be there to answer and i think sometimes with it's so pushed the guilt angle that it then kills the soul of that wanting angle the the thing that you have you know to feel good because a person feels a bit ashamed of themselves that i you know i haven't been really praying all this all these months or all these years you know
just praying one salah would feel odd it would never it never is even if it is this one or even don't it's allah is not an accountant he's not a you know he's not there to it's not like a bank manager or somebody that you owe this much or you or forever the doors of rahma are open but i just thought that you know because we said i i just thought that that's to to say this for whoever needs it yeah thank you it's been it's been epic shukran for grace in this yard i better sign out now because it's been it's been ages we'll speak soon likewise
not just take care take care of you people epic as always guys we've got to sign out we've had a super long session as always i just go on this is it i know that when i sit to start with you guys i'm just gonna go on and on and on but i love it honestly i do guys take care of yourselves do take some of these lessons if you can uh especially you know if you can take anything away i would say that today's point about owning your destiny that whatever it is and maybe even if this chapter of life
does not look like the sun is shining down on you you know it this chapter two shall pass you know there will be another chapter there will be plenty of sunshine and and whenever you can that that channel that phone that connection to god is lying there waiting is on standby even if it's 30 seconds in a day 60 seconds just being mindful just that gratitude that ah that i've got you know when you come
to think about it i've got so much that other people haven't got and just being aware of it is is is in and of itself sugar so take care of yourselves people if you're already if you haven't already liked and subscribed do so if you want to reach out to me the usual dream a little bit of the usual drill instagram is a good place yeah it just seems to be a place that i respond quite easily and do follow me on instagram if you want to join up with my discord server which is called mindscape you can go to patreon there's different
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