Determine Your Destiny | Meaning With MALM #38

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Allah Allah see determine your destiny it doesn't matter what's going on you got to make it happen that's that's that's the spirit people Allah Allah Allah people courage over complacency that's what I'm talking about and and a poem that comes straight to mind

Allah foreign that this is an incredibly fascinating mantra that exalt and hear exalt yourself in terms of effort in terms of courage in terms of determination willpower that exalts yourself

that before God is to decrease something foreign you rise to such an occasion to such excellence that God that it made that it that it exemplifies that the Divine decrees to ask you tell me how is it that you'd like this

to unfold this is a this is quite uh this is such a common phrase within Urdu that it is the courage and murder although it means man but it doesn't necessitate it doesn't necessarily mean just men it could mean men or women I mean nowadays what is a man

that's another question what is a man nowadays what is what is a woman what is a man so so does not restrict itself or confine itself to just males it could be anyone in this case but it's that you see by the might and courage of people does the help of God descend so as in God helps those who help themselves

determine your own Destiny people because in a way you never really know what the destiny is until it's happened so prior to that for all you know it's all up for craps so Allah Allah I thought this is um an unmissable poem this we have you know a mantra that you can keep to yourself and I saw this quote with this picture

it's never too late to be who you might have been there is just something about the playfulness with which a child's mind is immersed that is so forever inspiring it's Nietzsche it said that the ultimate maturity was to regain

the seriousness a child has during play and I guess this is a reminder that it's it's never too late no matter where what stage what age what phase of life we find ourselves in we're the only creatures of God that can wake up on any given day and from that point forward determine

their legacy nothing else just think of this this is the gift of consciousness any creature a cat dog lion a wolf fox Eagle Crow whale shark it is already it is forever set to be what it is okay but in Sun Allah see this this is uh something

special about inside in sunk in just one day decide you know what I've had enough I'm gonna fix my direction I'm gonna set my goal even whether it's something totally out there they're totally not like that let's say it's something totally fresh new maybe it is a deep uh buried desire maybe it isn't maybe they just got

inspired but only in Sun can do that it's never never never never too late and we can always you know I if a person has tried something and not been able to do it we've all done that we'll try again oh so we failed and so we'll fail again

yeah there is something formidable about the will of inside let me tell you something you know on this this courage yeah you know I've shared with you guys the Hadith before that ins the the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam says that if the final hour was to come upon you

and you are eating the morsel of food then let it be eat that more so and in a narration it says if the final hour was to come upon you and you are planting a plant it could be a flower it could be it says a plant something to Blossom to a tree

Israel then plant it now this Hadith there's a layer of it that is clearly showing the optimism but the prophet salallahu alaihi wasallam is teaching us but there's a layer deeper than that check this

the cosmos ceptibly is turning in on itself the celestial bodies are wavering and peering to collapse the oceans are rising with tsunamic Terror fires landscape decimated and amidst all of this in Sun seeing it

that if the hours of insane sees it looks it dead in the eye what is happening and then attempts to regrow it but cello it's looking at that destruction thinks it's on Allah he puts that plant in but let's see

it's not the insan is going to perish there is no way the insan can overcome that cataclysmic catastrophic destruction of the world before him or her but it's that might of will that says it's on I'm gonna re -grow replant I'm gonna recreate this despite

the destroy in the face of Destruction that is that this layer of the Hadith it blows your mind wow that is so profound a message for all of us that no matter how engulfed we are that look it face it

and plant what you have to do I'll take that step I mean if it's going down it's going down anyway it's the willpower that is is a force to be reckoned with in the face of cataclysmic or disasters this is the thing about insan that Allah says

and yet I know about this insan what you know not so wow I just wanted it share that it's profound it really ah it's something so it's never too late oh this was from I like this

it will live it this was really fascinating foreign it's fascinating what this see can mean so many different things that gosh man that if only he or it it could be speaking about a person it could be speaking about an idea it could be speaking about

a value a sentiment courage determination it could be speaking about God himself if only he or it or whatever it is was to remain in me Jesus [Laughter] and you see this is It's fascinating because the second line

which can mean it usually has a negative connotation in order to do it can mean I guess thoughtful but it's not it's usually like uh like doubt or or something these kind of negative uh ruminations and it's not a good thing usually and what the person is saying is that the way a person can't shake that off what if this or it or she or he or he was to remain in me like that it's

profound you know in with in in poetry we truly find wisdom so right let me take a look as well before I do I saw this I thought you know what let's let's bring this up um this is why ibnel farev um the great Mystic Islamic Mystic and he says

oh see there's something about this he says that my heart tells me but you will be the destruction of me and then counter-intuitively what you're You're Expecting may be the reply or his follow conclusion to be well maybe I should come to my senses or I should see differently or I rohithaka that you know may my soul be

offered as a sacrifice for you that you know whether you are aware of this or not it's fascinating and this it ties in you see that you had this this could be about a goal as well it doesn't just I mean it could be about from the most elevated it could be about the transcendental Divine but being ibrah the the Islamic Mystic but it could also be speaking about a goal

sometimes we we set ourselves on something and it consumes us that one may say that he's or she is working themselves to the ground foreign that whether you know it or not it is what it is Allah let's take a look at who we've got online with us people ah right

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translating the poem make yourself so able to such an extent that even before your destiny your fate is decided the Divine create creator has to ask you child what is it that you wish for sure it doesn't have to be a child though but yeah I like this poem this is going to be my Mantra Hamid it's never too late as we are always in the now

that's going to be my reply for whenever I turn up some weird people I like hey were you supposed to be here so I was supposed to be here now and I'm here now we are always in the now I mean Allah bless you shaken for the love and super and super sticker likewise azerati shukran shukran um

right we've got um Jack Barnes please make darf I have to go for brain surgery drocophilus is a horrible thing may Allah Jack Barnes grandeurik Swift and complete recovery I mean inshallah I mean um our thoughts and laws are with you

um from Bangladesh shukran and with also put in created in the best erected form not enough oh insan insan is created human beings are created in the erected form you know it's the minds have been corrupted now you can't you see the problem is if you even when you're speaking correctly and scientifically the mind it's too late

the corruption has reached the mind it's it's too late uh you know this it's a grammatical uh joke uh uh that with this some somebody in Arabic giving the khutba and he says uh you know fee is is a it means in but it's a preposition in Arabic and so whenever it precedes a word it comes

before a word it gives the word after it a Kasra so an e sound and it places it in the genitive case in English would say or in our Arabic you could say it's it's depending on whether it's kufi or basri terminology you're used to so the person on the member was saying

that the facade has appeared [Laughter] sounds so funny if you understand her because I mean you know if I guess if you like if you're familiar with because it's just not proper Arabic and it's it's like making a silly mistake and and the person one of the people in the audience goes he says

because that corruption has appeared on the land and on the uh and on the sea and he says and on the pulpits too [Laughter] it's appeared there as well with the facade grammatical corruption um see they see edits um much love for the Super Chat uh let's have a sip

uh-huh you've said God isn't limited but chooses chooses to observe natural law this is implicitly limiting him you've decided not to give him a capital H it's on not nice it also assumes we know all natural law oh it does indeed well you see people look

it's not that I say Allah himself has created the observable universe uh and non-observable sorry he created the entire uh universe he has created the laws within them they haven't created themselves so it's not God versus the laws of the universe it's God's creation and God's system so it's not God working around your

system it's God creating a system so it's so so once you understand that it's really very simple look it doesn't really matter how a person wants to go about it a person can say I don't really care um I don't you see you you will get to like I said you will get different camps of people you will get a group of people who to whom Islam is not necessarily about making sense

or let's say it is about making sense but it just mostly so like it mostly makes sense and right okay let me rephrase that so because then they're going to well because the answer to that could be see I'm answering myself as I'm doing it the answer to that could be well it makes sense to them still in the moment so okay let's backtrack rephrase that so right

there are people to whom let's let's put it this way there are people to whom uh Allah is trying to think of a you know I came on a totally tangential note I I've been speaking some very interesting guests this week and there was one uh or one guy I was speaking to just yesterday ahmadu from the U.S incredibly talented going on to doing his PhD in Harvard and

I was so so young I mean just 27 and I was so impressed with his ability to explain with Simplicity complex ideas and that that is something so that is such a gift honestly let's get back to the point now so okay let's put it like this foreign and understand it there will be different groups or different camps of people they will when we read verses like let's say

um any kind of verses that describe elements of reality so it could be describing geological systems it could be describing the cosmos the Earth it could be describing all of these things yeah so it could be describing in Sun humans there are and it could be describing stories on narratives which apparently let's say they seem to imply miraculous they do imply miraculous

um events so the question is that there will be two camps of people when they've when they when they're trying to digest this one camp that feels that these verses must because they imply something nature must work that way or it works that way then we know it doesn't normally work that way because we know the world however it's fine because this verse implied this therefore on that occasion it meant this

okay that's fine that's that group you know if you if you're that group it's fine you know if it helps you maybe this allows you to to to to to to kind of deeply appreciate the concept of the S the glory of God and you accept that so you look at certain verses you look at certain Hadith you look at and whenever you find these things perceptibly to be some clash between the voice of reason the world as we know

it as human beings know it through let's say science and observation it doesn't matter you will suspend all of this and say look well I know this doesn't normally happen and that would if somebody else said it I wouldn't have believed it but because it's here I will just accept it I don't know how it happened but it just happened so you could take anything like you could say well insan was created just out of just like this for example just creationism God said B and it was okay um so in that case we don't need dirt we don't need clay we don't need enzyme was born from it because B and it was although the Quran doesn't say that it it says be and it was but it also says

clay and it also says stages and it also says drop of sperm and it also says um but let's say now you you take that you say fine this happened um like you take the the story of Ibrahim and you say well he was thrown into the fire now even though the Quran doesn't say he was thrown in the fire it says they prepared a fire but we saved him from the fire so the question here is well you could say well okay but if they made the fire then surely they must have thrown him in the fire but the Quran doesn't say that explicitly he says they may prepared the

fire and we saved him from it so you say well okay in this case I'm going to believe that Abraham was thrown in the fire and God saved him from burning and God pulled him out fine if it helps you it helps you that's wonderful there's nothing wrong I mean nobody is going to come to you and say change your view if that helps you appreciate the Divinity you know of God if that the the kind of Supremacy and and the glory and and the kudara the power of God uh that's great you know more power to you okay

the only issue with that is you won't really be able to debate this with people because as far as the moment you step outside of Islam nobody will accept that naturally and you understand that anyway you know that by the way if I speak about this to anybody who's not Muslim they're obviously going to not believe in it because this doesn't happen that way combustion occurs at a certain uh point and heat you know it's a consequence of heat and heat Burns and it does this and so on and so forth so okay and you don't mind that you say well you know I understand anybody else they would have

been burnt but for Abraham God saved him and you believe that and that's fine you know that's your nobody's coming to you telling you to change your way okay but there's other people who will say that well in the Quran Allah tells us to go around the world and understand how the world works in fact Allah says oh they want an okay for Canada you want to know how creation began there's a verse of the Quran that they want to know how creation began Allah didn't say it began like this he says why don't you walk throughout the Earth and observe observe

your environment you'll come to learn how creation began which humans have been doing since you know since time we've been observing our environment and learning so you say well okay Allah told us to observe the environment but really that's not how it began because you really began it a different way but he told us to observe the environment so to these people they say look Allah told us to observe his laws in nature understand how he did things so when we come across these verses we will examine them what does it mean okay so let me give you an ex and to them they will say well actually you know

when we look at this verse it doesn't ever say he was thrown in the fire it says that they prepared the fire we told the fire to be cool now here the people are assuming cool why because he was thrown in but cool could also and it says and peaceful because going let's say you go with the story he's obviously he's placed the story has it he's tied and in front of him they build a fire and in front of him obviously it's still going to be torturing him from a distance because the heat is so excessive so at this stage

the fire is it says we made the fire to be cool and peaceful like non-toxic because actually in a fire what really kills people and uh in addition obviously the burning could kill people and does kill people but the smoke is often what results for many people in death now so this is why Allah says talking about the toxicity so Allah made saved Abraham from the toxicity and from the heat whilst he's tied up could this be as in Allah made the fire lose its ability to have fire heat and or

could it just be there was a wind for example that saved him a wind comes and it's blowing the smoke that way he's tied up here but this could be I mean there's nothing the story still works in all scenarios what we do know is Abraham gets away from there and you could say well you know if they never really threw him in the fire and you know what's the point of the story so well the point of the story was never really just about fire it was about him being saved Allah says about Noah that najena who we saved Noah from the flood didn't mean that he got thrown in the

flood and then he he was saved from from drowning it doesn't say that you know obviously trading we had to put him in the water and then take him out so he uses the same verb by the way for Noah as well so okay so these are the they both work they're not they're both it's the same reading of the Quran the Quran that what people don't understand this is one of the issues uh and it comes down to this a lot actually um and then I'll wrap this up people don't understand that the quranic stories are often elliptical there's a lot of ellipses in this narratives of the Quran

and that means that there's a lot of it's just it's a bit like in English like dot dot dot so the quranic stories are not stories like you can read a novel there's nothing like it's just like three verses it'll say this this this change the topic it'll just say and do you not remember when this happened and we saved him and Allah's merciful next topic then it'll come up again in another point two verses here then it'll come up again over there maybe four verses and then it'll change the topic it's not a story how you read a story it's not like that so it's just

very brief uh highlights of something that are being mentioned because the reason is it was never meant to be a story it was never meant to be a science lesson it was never meant to be biological or about biology or about it's just to tell you what was the purpose of Allah telling you that purpose was that always have trust in God so it works whether you believe this way or works this way and to seal this here's a very good example Allah says that we um there's a verse of the Quran that

um that Allah created a samawat he created the heavens above and he placed the moon as a light a lamp in the heavens so now you here's a scholar like Muhammad alamina um who's like a salafi inclined Hardline you know as in when I say Hardline not extremist but as as in somebody who was very always you'd say very traditional

respected by people who lean towards if we can I don't I don't really like using the terms like left and right but let's say there's an Islamic right people who are the far end of that would always respect him mauritanian amazing you know what it'll be an absolutely epic Quran now he said well okay right okay when we look at these verses this verse says that the Moon is not in our heaven in our Sama but it's in the samawat it's in

the other heavens that's what the verse of the Quran says yeah it says so in his time NASA landed on the moon so now people came to him and they said well check you know this is a problem that we thought the Quran says that the moon isn't here it's in the samawat as it says in the Quran so but the other verse is say you can't reach

the samawat but in sun has reached the Moon so what do we do what does this mean so he said well look there's two ways of looking at this one that it is in the samawat and the other verses say in Sun cannot reach the samawat okay

in which case there's a problem because we've reached the Moon he says all alternatively we've never sorry that disconnected there for a moment I don't know why he says or alternatively we've never truly understood the meaning of this verse this verse doesn't mean that that somehow what in that sense despite what all the scholars of the past have said because today technology

in science has proven to us that this is not what it means so here's a very traditional scholar saying look okay well you know it just means that maybe we've never truly grasped the meaning of this as in we as in he's speaking about himself maybe other people before didn't believe like him but so this is the way that we really ought to look at the Quran don't feel insecure don't feel threatened don't feel scared the problem is a lot of Muslims today that live in the west they are very insecure about their faith

they're very um they feel that they're on the constantly on the back foot and they don't let's be honest they that many of them are not well versed in how to prove your faith and I don't that's not their fault it's a very difficult job to be able to prove your faith so so they're always on the back foot and they somehow you see okay so atheists demonized atheists leaning in on science demonized Faith many scientists are atheists not all but many

they demonized Faith what many people of Faith did as a reaction is they started to demonize science this is a grave mistake it's actually playing into the Trap because if you demonize science you you just you're adopting yourself a Persona that you're stupid it's like demonizing the intellect which is once again what some people of Faith did they played right into that trap they started to demonize the intellect just absolutely stupid to demonize the

intellect can you imagine that they would be if you as a person stood up today and said Beware of the intellect I said not as in beware of I don't mean in the sense what the intact is capable of but don't the intellect is bad you people would think what on Earth are you this this is the only thing that distinguishes us from creatures so that's that's the kind of crossroad that you have in the different camps the argument is not look if if you're a person that

is fine with that you see there's something which atheists called God of the gaps they say that what certain people of Faith do is that normally they believe in everything like let's say you wouldn't put your phone on the top of a roof because you understand gravity you wouldn't stand at the edge of a tall building because you understand gravity you wouldn't do certain things because you recognize the laws of thermodynamics you wouldn't even if you don't know them but you reckon that like I know if I leave my coffee here it gets cold

even if okay maybe I haven't let's say some people don't understand that it's the second law of Thermodynamics and entropy but they understand that the cup of coffee if left gets cold so it's they do understand its practices in the real world they may not know the formulas and the scientific things and so if you're somebody that look it doesn't bother you that's fine you could be like that you don't need to but to other people don't criticize people who want to have a deeper understanding of their faith you will come across you see you will come across these descriptions you need

to be prepared like I tell people that Islam the wonderful thing about Islam is it stood the test of time don't be afraid that don't think it's going to crumble under your questions your questions are nothing sure if you hold a very dogmatic View then you know it's it's your choice it's your path but you will you made you know may Allah make it easy for you but you may cry find a very difficult time with your faith in life um especially if you come across it being your faith being questioned so you may find yourself with a deep

identity Faith crisis or your children God forbid will certainly find themselves in a very deep Faith crisis because if you taught the dean confessionally and dogmatically it's difficult it's difficult you know like you because then you have this coupled with that you have Hadith dogmatism and you know many great imams I'll speak today about the legend of Islam Imam Malik he was not a Hadith dogmatist so how these relativists you've rejected Hadith and he accepted Hadith and he said not he said there is a difference between Hadith and Sunnah said we embrace the Sunnah we questioned

the Hadith there's a difference so now we wholeheartedly embrace Hadith is not the Sunnah Hadith maybe may not be it's a whole different attitude you see you're going to come across these things you're going to find your otherwise you know there's a very famous Hadith since we spoke of Abraham very famous Hadith in sahi Muslim of the of the wazar of the of the lizard Gekko we spoke of Abraham and the fire Muslim that if you you should kill geckos you know these lizards that you get like in

Pakistan they call them chipkalis you know in India Pakistan these kind of geckos they're in the house and stuff like that says you should kill a gecko and if you kill it with one strike Allah will give you 100 Rewards but if you kill it in two strikes then Allah will give you 50 Rewards and I think it says it I think it says if you kill it in three you get even less but the one and two are definitely the if you kill it in one you get 100 rewards if you kill it in two you get 50.

now I mean sure you can believe that you know if that makes sure if that makes your Iman safe and helps you you could go around killing lizards but the Hadith also explains why you're killing the lizard it says you're killing the lizard because when Abraham was thrown into the fire the lizard went and blew into the fire to to make it burn faster for Abraham now to many people this is an insult

it's an insult to Islam it's an insult to the Ibrahim it's an insult to the prophet Muhammad sallam and it's to many people it's an insult to the faith that you would think our faith is like this that we're going to find geckos today first of all that we think that a gecko is somehow responsible for Ibrahim being burned and then what we're doing is going around today targeting lizards and for each lizard we if we can kill it one girl we get a hundred Rewards or we want to worst case try to kill it in two girls this this would be an affront for many

people you know because the Hadith of the Prophet said in everything of Life there is from the Sunnah every living thing it has a reward if you can be kind to it going around now I understand if things are poisonous geckos usually are not poisonous um they're not like the dangerous lizards they're just like the house kind of lizards that you find in certain countries but here the Hadith is insane because it's poisonous it's saying because it it's because the lizards try to get Ibrahim so we're going to get

them back now that that sounds very embarrassing sure you know if if you believe that that's fine you know that's your way you're allowed you know you believe that nobody's going to say anything to you if it helps you somehow have a greater recognition of Islam and somehow see that I don't know makes you value Islam more that you want to go around killing lizards you you do it most Muslims are not going to do that okay most

Muslims do not do that most Muslims in fact if you told them that they would reject it because because it doesn't make any sense that and they would refuse that this was ever something the prophet said even if it is inside Muslim they will say well you know Imam made a distinction between Hadith was Sunnah Imam Malik made that distinction sure if you want to believe it you believe it you know we don't so that you have to as well appreciate that there are there is no uniformity in Islam there is no just one way of doing things in Islam

there's multiple there's multiple Roots you know like Imam Malik said the path to God are many so yeah this these things are good to understand that there's a difference between dogmatism you can take that as your method you can take your principles of Islam based on Dogma other people will take them based on reason you know each to their own and may Allah bless everybody's journey I mean so yeah but don't be quick to condemn people uh especially those who are trying to do it

based on reason because they're trying to make see to them they obviously Islam is valuable that's why they're trying to see how it all fits together um all right alhamdulillah finally get to catch your mom live from the start shout out from Singapore shukran much appreciated um

Salam Mufti have you been following the work of Eckhart Tolle famously authored the book The Power of Now yeah the power of now I've come across um and just seen certain it's very powerful and I've watched quite a few lectures about this and a new Earth I haven't but um yeah there is there is a huge um there is a huge um

Renaissance of the path of Consciousness in our times and I tell you it is this path of consciousness that will take people back to God in time to come people will no mark my words this will be the thing of the age that it will be it will not be you know people think it's going to be dawa by preaching standing on a street and preaching sure you know if you want to do that you do that people are going to think it's going to

be by giving leaflets out people might think it's going to be no no I feel that in this age for a while now that we've been in this age for a little while and it's maturing day by day it will be through two things one is the path of Consciousness the path of the Roy okay mindfulness and the other see because it is and then it is inside

humanitarian collaborations humanitarian efforts humanitarian servitude it is will just be these two things that insan will do that people will do and you will see people flocking to it as time comes more and more increasingly in you will see numbers just rising and they will come to these things and then eventually from there they will find through these these will be that the

portals to God and then as people get comfortable they may start to learn more about the structured side of religions and things like this and of Islam and and one of the problems is that not many people from Islam are very involved in these things arguably on the humanitarian thing they are there is a certain amount certain amount I think Islamic uh projects charity projects charitable organizations are

involved in crises Crisis Support I'm not so sure how involved they are on regular humanitarian like non-urgent crises so if there's an earthquake the Charities are always there which is great and helping refugees helping war-torn people but I'm not sure about how much they are involved in regular like let's say they are they are involved but how much for example like let's say food banks for people that are not normal they're not like in the UK they're not war-torn

but they are just poor or let's say providing neighborhood assistance on certain things providing Refuge to women when they need it providing um these kind of issues which are more localized and non-uh you know catastrophic crises cases so we're not talking about war and famine and stuff like that so on this I think there are but probably less um and you but this is an area but on the other side of consciousness yeah there needs to be a lot more really

a lot more I think um there's a huge vacuum huge void for Islam to be present there because really it holds the answers to so many questions that people have this year did is it logically impossible to turn stick to snake I've answered that already but shukran much love for the super chat you can watch it I gave a very detailed reply I think the week a session before last

um and you can watch that I really uh went into it in a lot of detail on uh the tafsir where I speak about Moses and it's the quranic guidance so I think is it from it's not lost is it last week's session or the week before I think it's about where I cover the verses of the Quran and what is that in your right hand so check that out please uh Joseph Kane you're amazing you're an amazing person see it's amazing isn't it that you see just

seeing something just suddenly positive is the effect it has on an individual I have so much love for you pray Allah showers his mercy and blessings on you and your family I mean wow Joseph I'm really that's touched my heart man I may Allah bless you really uh um do I mean when I share the well when I share the link if you're about to come on and if you're not about to definitely get in touch with me on Instagram I felt that from I felt I felt it the heart frequency Allah

you know the resonance what comes from the heart affects the heart yes see now that that's amazing just just think about it like just seeing that message as soon as I've read it it gave a Vibrance and a frequency imagine that's what we're doing every day with people as we interact we're either just suddenly we're kind of upping the they've they've they're vibrant their frequencies their positivity oh we're bringing it down true

wow it's it's amazing it just goes to remind you how what the Deen is actually about I mean I mean much love for the Super Chat whoa okay Allah bless you you said not to be obsessed with punishments or have a negative view of God but why would Allah mention things like only wants us to have an image of him as a merciful god well shukran much love for the super chat um I I'll very I'll briefly uh go over reason being I've got a whole detailed

um explanation of this where I'm explaining the verse it's in the minimum where I'm discussing the verse if you are grateful I will increase you and I break down the whole understanding of how um how humans how not just humans animals operate as well under a framework of rewards and sanctions so regardless of whether a person or a creature an animal even is being sanctioned but the framework

under it you get the most productivity and you get the most the best so chimpanzees as well if you check if you watch my book review on the book A bonobon and atheist and when we speak about it and all the research and it shows how even how these tribes of uh or troops of chimpanzees live and operate and how they how the efficacy of the troop is is optimized by the presence of sanctions so if you come to understand

that as a something that is um invariably present at all uh stages and in all strata of nature then insan would be no exception because insan in is ultimately also a creature and arguably a much more um you know dangerous one so hope that answers uh your question

um no of course that goes back to the discussion earlier on um I'll write okay uh let me just please don't uh hijack the discussions

Mufti is humbled by the power of what many reasons why I left Christianity um Eckhart told teachings in a way the Quran can't that's ridiculous that's ridiculous look the Quran whether a person likes it or not the Quran has proven itself as an entity

that has mobilized Nations and redefined the course of human history whether you you want to acknowledge it or not you bring me a book onto that not in the no way near the same the the same demonstrable efficacy and the the results and what it did it was the kitab and this is not speaking about and and I've got other

I've spoken in other sessions giving more data breakdown of it's not about the the verses I mean that's a separate discussion but here it's not about that it's the guitar it's that there was a book that United the people and you may say well true and I agree that the Bible serves in somewhat of a similar way but it was never the same never the same as the Quran why because the Bible was not the Bible you see the Bible you're talking about

the Gospels and the gospels which were not a book to start off with they were just the good news that Jesus gave and the Bible as we have it is a collection of various books that that have been put together over centuries in a way that had a lot of revision and and sure they accept the whole book so the book concept of the Bible is similar to the al-kitab concept because it's it's the book here then well they're not

well they're saying well we're not so concerned about the detail it's the book overall but for that to develop it took so many centuries and it took lifetimes and generations and upon Generations the Quran was the and it was the only one out of the scriptures the Quran affirms the Bible in in the sense that scripture that went before it it affirms that but it was the only one that was Quran and which meant that in itself it was it was this thing to be read

as though it's being chanted and as it's being it's being this this chanting this reciting of it brings about a life with the people that express it it's something you could not there is no scripture like that it's not like just reading you know the Quran is not just like reading a textbook it is as much the utterance

that holds a magical power over the person that recites it so this is why I keep reminding Muslims as well that you see they they sometimes some people are missing this this magic as it were because they assume it's like a textbook it's not in many ways scripture is like art in how it evokes these profound emotions and feelings Within so I hope that helps

all right um what a legend of Islam see what does taqwa mean to you great question shukran much love for the um write much love for the Super Chat um right I'm just checking have I reached yep I have okay so um taqwa I think to me taqwa is more about a mindfulness of God

and by extension one would then be mindful of non-god which is creation so that's so it would begin by being mindful of God that's how I understand it um yeah so it's it's definitely not health or fear some people say fear I don't know why they say that it's not maybe they mean it as in they're using it in the way to watch out like someone says watch out and so maybe

watch out that kind of that they're using it from that angle but you don't use it like that in Arabic it's not um I think what happened is over time it's just because it's been a difficult the word is very conceptual so it seems to have just been um carried by people to mean to assume it meant fear God but it doesn't it's a health is a totally different word in Arabic which is used in the Quran um

see even that does not say about fearing God in the sense that that verse it reads and the one who feared his standing her standing and just answering what they did in the presence of God

so yeah so I I would feel just to add to that I did have Dr Joseph Lombard on one of the Mind traps a short while back and he gave the the verse he gave the Tran translation to what did he say to reverence to reverence I think he said I think he said that and I think that would probably definitely fit it well that would be uh yeah that would probably be a more apt translation but failing that for the

I I would feel it's closer to being mindful but with all the mindfulness of God okay all right let me go on to somebody says I missed uh Siva shukran much love for the Super Chat anniversary of meaning with MAO may Allah bless you for your dedications may Allah bless you uh see man keep you always smiling I mean uh has it been a year now has it it may have

yeah I think it has actually wow I didn't really um think about it but now that you say shukran for reminding me somebody said I missed a Super Chat um right I loved the Mind Trap of last week and the silk shrines conversation different of opinion with respect and knowledge shukran I appreciate that um

it's it's fascinating I really yeah I enjoyed the discussion we should have a few more uh mind traps coming up inshallah to look out for them it was interesting because what I was trying to explain was that I think these things are sometimes more profound than we assumed so there is I wasn't trying to say that going to people should go to shrines and do these things um I I was being clear that it's not religion proper as it were so it's not how Islam teaches that said I wouldn't agree to say these people are

mushrik or these people are committing in the silky sense because what they are doing I was just explaining that it's sometimes more complicated than people it's complex it's not easy to um to divorce these matters from the human psyche so it's not it's not easy there are complexities that's all I was just trying to acknowledge that was much love for the Super Chat may Allah bless you let's

move on to some verses of the Quran and what what we'll do is we'll take a look I want to speak a bit about Imam Malik today and then I will share the the invite and you guys can jump on have your say have your words share your thoughts your precious thoughts but first let's get to more importantly some verses of the Quran that can add meaning to our lives I want to actually go over I've done this before

but it really ties into this what we're looking at today this whole what guides us back to God which is under the fold of determining our destiny because it just reminds us but there were two verses uh before getting into that I thought I was actually bringing up Surah my own and these verses came to my mind and I thought you know we have to and they're both speaking about being amazed and the first one from Surah verse 73 that um

foreign are you amazed by what God has decreed do you find it strange as in amazed here is is asking in a sense of do you find it strange okay as in something so miraculous made May unfold

you may think wow you know do you do you really find it strange that here you have this is in the story the context of um of Ibrahim and it's speaking after the wife says that she um you know how can I become pregnant and this this is my husband who's so old of age now and so when I reached this age and

and in this they are told do you that because she says that that is that is something Aji strange indeed that something like that was to happen now but in many ways people such as destiny that you might think ajib at this stage of life I should achieve such and such or at this stage of life I will be able to turn this around Aji that

now after having been stuck in my ways for so long I will all of a sudden become independent and start this new project or I will start up on this business or somebody's gone through a separation they've gone through let's say a divorce and they're thinking after all these years how will I live my life now this is you know to be able to flourish or to even to attain some semblance of happiness at this stage

umbrella yeah you don't know what Allah has written for you that sometimes in in in the worst at rock bottom people find a hidden treasure that unlocks apps not just unlocks it transforms life making it the best it's ever been but it's the thought of it could sound so strange

Hachi you know this is something strange can it actually be in that in such a way and we're reminded in umbrella but do you you know do you find the will of God to be a stranger fear in a way you see this is it could be understood also as saying it's okay it's human to find it strange at times can this actually happen

and then Allah shows but we there's that will to keep moving forward and in light of that verse there's this verse from Surah this this because when when I brought that up about this statue seeing Oh that's strange be weird if it's like that foreign

a lot you know you have to love the style of the Quran that why you know that that that if you if you find something strange that they say you know if you find it strange then is this not strange

when we will become dust y will we still be but in a new kind of entity that we will continue to live they find that's that they say that how can this be it makes no sense once we become dust

did we not begin as dust you know it's fascinating I said this before that I was that now science teaches us that human beings began it's Cosmic dust Stars exploded supernovas and you know they were Celestial demise so many stars had to explode in the cosmos to release all these elements that were needed to

become human carbon and nitrogen and all these others hydrogen was from The Big Bang but all of these things had to come together for humans for life about humans to come about stars and all this Cosmic dust is that not a Jeep [Laughter] if that could happen then why do you doubt Consciousness and

the power that we will after we come to Decay here that that our Consciousness does not just stop with death here why is it so difficult and it's interesting even that with Cosmic dust Allah tells us in the Quran that insane

created in Sun from dust Allah didn't say Cosmic dust we might have ended up becoming arrogant about inside loss of dust let us be humble while

you know if you find it strange then that too is strange what they say that this is it all this unfathomable Wonder and yet this is it is that not strange these are things to sometimes ponder about when when we have a moment to pond

this is an absolutely beautiful Surah it really puts things into perspective [Music] and everybody knows it's in the last 10 surahs of the Quran some of the shortest surahs means a kind of um like it means like an assistance like an aid but especially to do with

um the home like household assistance household compassion but not here it means by household within the hump or around as in within the neighborhood Etc so do you not see the person who denies the Deen and here Dean could mean Islam but it could also mean

somebody who denies a reckoning because the Day of Reckoning as the as the pro as the uh phrase in Arabic proverbial kamata as you reckon as you judge as you do so shall you be judged foreign do you see a person who denies the Reckoning so it could mean just the way of life

the Deen is a religion that but it could mean they deny the whole accountability do you do you see people do you see the person do you see that guy that woman do you see them so you think well okay I see them what which which kind of guys which kind of girls which kind of people

that's the see because you say well I don't know the person who denies the the Reckoning the accountability the answering the attitude to God they are not mindful of God they've completely ignored they've denied almost but yeah a lot but that is in their hearts and mind how how do I see that do you see them I don't see that that's in their hearts and mind

what would their signs be who are the who are these people what do they assign or how can I see them Allah says I'll tell you sure you don't see their hearts and mind but you see the one who shuns an orphan the help the helpless the needy the the desperate you see the the one the man the woman that shunned them

what about the one who is a poor person there they are push them away I haven't got time to feed you I haven't got any money to give you I haven't got any food of course I've got food but do you you're insignificant let us tell you who they are earlier

this is who they are you want to know who they are this is who they are so at this stage Allah is going to condemn them ruin be to these people may they just be destroyed these people here comes the plot twist may they be destroyed may they be ruined me so what would we assume Allah is going to say you know ruin ruin in Arabic one way is

like whale a whale you know ruin ah like they say you know destruction or you know well whale so Allah is going to say to these people who denied Lil

no Allah says foreign and destruction be to those who pray it's like what do people of prayer have to do with this [Laughter] what these people are praying now why not you know most Saline

these people are praying so okay sure maybe they're not doing a good job maybe they are slightly forgetful about when the as in here does not mean they're not praying because they are called Muslim they are called you see if you never pray then I can't call you I can't call it's like saying uh destruction be to all the drivers who have never ever driven that doesn't make any sense

sure maybe they're lazy they're not so apt about their prayers and uh right maybe sure Allah sure maybe they're doing it now see now we're starting to okay they're lazy about their prayers but they but they're praying they are praying they're taking out their time ah we're getting more of an explanation foreign

is but an act of display the piety is so others can see them ah I'm fulan I'm such and such person I've you know I do well I do I've done so many umrahs I've done so many these things it's for people

nowadays you have in the massage it well on Juma you have in the massage that people when they give charity it's declared say such and such gave 100 pounds such and such K 50 pounds such and such gave 10 pounds such and such K5 pounds yeah it's declared it's announced it's oh did you not did you not hear that I gave this yet you should all hear that I gave this let everybody hear that I gave something to help otherwise what kind of help would it be

huh if a tree falls in the woods and nobody's there to see it did it actually fall but then it opens up to the final real reason about denying and the Reckoning and and their piety is an act of display well how would we know that they were genuine well they would not prevent the help the household items the every

day that we're not talking about astronomical huge thing somebody going so out of their way to give something a little thing here they they gave especially I guess in the olden days people did it more they gave a little bit of food they've cooked something gave it to their neighbor they've made something I'll give a little bit over there or hear somebody let me just give even appliances oh you don't have this here you can borrow this you know to cook well to cook or to do something now

look how important that is in defining your relationship to God so that a whole Surah is teaching us what the core the heart of the faith is this is why I said that in our age these two things one the path of Consciousness and the other about help this compassion for Humanity this man these are this yes and these are the

paths that that the portals to God again so I I want to share that because it's such a it's a Surah we all know and it's such an epic reminder so shukran I hope it's been of some help out um with some much much love for the super sticker may Allah bless you

um my son would be sorry mostly just getting the hang of using the super chats I'm loving to watch them to and from work may Allah bless you with some and shukran it's a pleasure and it's an honor to have you here online of right okay so whilst the um so okay right um let's speak a little bit about Imam Malik because I want to speak

um introduce him as a personality and we can then go on to taking some of you live the legend people of Imam Malik ibnas Allah let me just leave that up there and I'll just see I did you know why because there's so much to say I did think to myself you know I'll just make some little tiny bullet points so I don't forget um because about Imam Malik we have to

really do multiple sessions we can always come back to the Imam because there's just so much about him if I right so oh damn what have I just done Okay so let's start off with a brief introduction Imam Malik uh his name

okay now he is born in Medina in 92 or 93 history so that's about 80 to 83 years after the prophet salallahu alaihi wasallam he is of our of Arab origin as you'd imagine he's from a tribe known asbah he's called very famous tribe and the hemir are a well-known um Branch if you like of

[Music] they were involved in many uh dynastic kind of mini um maybe not Empires but small uh scale civilizations in southern Arabia pre-islam so there's a lot of history to the hemorrhoids and you can check that up and maybe we'll cover that in another day they have more from Katon um and we can I have got a a Mind Trap where I discussed the Arab lineage and and stuff and there is this huge thing on a side note what is and what is Adnan and hmm

maybe a lot of this is reshaped and reformed post-islam especially meant and so people called the katanina and they called the Adnan and that they are from Ismail Islam but then you get many people like right from the sahaba transmit you'll get these people saying no the qatan is from Ismail Islam they use this Hadith the prophet said

so they use this Imam bukhari goes with that you get what's his name um uh what's his name is on the tip of my tongue he goes with that a lot of these people seem to um but then as Islam progresses they seem to say no well actually the katanin was separate and these people were separate and there wasn't really any um foreign there isn't much archaeological evidence

to support the whole katani thing there was something that was found that said Katan and it wasn't really sure whether kathan was was describing a region a settlement or a people but anyway I digress let's get back to the topic IBN Malik and this is just his so Malik so his granddad is called Malik as well

is a companion of the Prophet who witnessed several um battles with the prophet as well so he was that close with the prophet upon his son Malik who's Imam Malik's granddad was from the turbine he was somebody that was played a or had a a presence in Medina amongst the Muslims he is one of the few people who prays over uthman when he is murdered so this is how so this is the kind of

lineage that we're dealing with that you've got wow these people have played such a role in Islam and Imam Malik's father anas he they say Imam Malik does transmit Hadith from him so he may have had some small presence in the Islamic tradition but not much his brother so Imam Malik's Uncle Abu Sohail is known for transmitting Hadith and Imam Malik does transmit from his uncle about swahil so this is the family his father Ernest

his wife Imam Malik's mother is Alia um she gives birth to right so his birth as well has some miraculous story to it as many superheroes do so many people transmit from Imam Malik him saying that oh they told me obviously like he says my you know my relatives and Elders told me that my mother was pregnant for three or four years with me now this is an interesting point because it goes back to once again this

discussion we'd had before about how do we approach Islam and science so Imam Malik he says well look this is what people said so you wouldn't really know any different because you would just know that look most people have a baby within let's say eight to nine months in the in this this is how you you'll know the average maybe some people have a you know they well to survive given their environment now okay many women claimed to be pregnant for

several years the gestation period now how do we explain this because we know that's impossible so once again we don't take this um see we don't take a dogmatic View well because these people said it must be true but at the same time we're not saying these people were lying because that's not what they you know they don't get anything out of lying about this and it's not that they were ignorant about time they don't understand what one year is or three years are so

research in recent times has shown and several Muslim researchers and medical researchers have found have researched what they call Phantom pregnancies and there's a great um Saudi medical researcher who's done a lot of work on this and he's done multiple conferences and he's been to these uh um remote uh almost bedouin-like settlements of Arabs and spoken to them where they still have these myths that they where some people feel that such and such woman has been pregnant

for two years or and it's interesting the kind of ethnographic studies that have now been conducted and they shed light so in a phantom pregnancy what happens is a woman that's my coming to Matt Walsh's what is a woman but a woman takes on the symptoms of pregnancy so she feels some sickness uh with irregularities of discharge and

um a cessation or a lack of menstrual cycles she develops a bloating a bloated a bloating in in that in the lower abdomen region and not just yeah the kind of lower gut around what would be the womb it gets bloated now the signs are that she's pregnant so people especially given an absence of uh pregnancy test checks and stuff like this so the women in the village or in the the nomadic settlement would say oh well she's pregnant you know she's

throwing up she hasn't had her period she's late therefore she's pregnant and what would happen is this is not a pregnancy now whatever it is there's an abnormality that has resulted in a bloatingness of around the the womb region which is tied in with why she's not having any menstruation and this has also resulted in an internal hormonal physiological uh presence which has made her sick has made her hormonal has made her so she thinks she's going through a pregnancy but it doesn't continue to it just has

some bloating that it is perceptible but it doesn't seem to grow beyond that it doesn't grow into like a full you know fetus pregnancy so people assume she is pregnant and she just stays like that for months and months and sometimes a year sometimes two years now given modern medicine and and technology and we would clearly know this woman is not pregnant and if she was to resort to medical assistance she would be given the aid that would then restore her to her the

homeostasis that she should should be at but now minus that and the social narrative that she is pregnant she assumes she's pregnant and what happens during this time sometimes some of these women actually become pregnant so now the pregnancy does start to develop so let's say in the second year or in the third year it now starts to grow more and more and more and then she has a baby so people around her don't count the pregnancy from the accounting from the beginning of the phantom pregnancy and they say well

um they say that um these I was just reading women actually give positive pregnancy tests hormonal issue or shukran so this is where you get in the past uh in some of the the books where people the scholars don't know in that long ago they're just going by science of the age it's like when Imam Malik is asked about uh postnatal bleedings or asked about menstrual cycles and asked about he just says look you just asked the women of

your region because you would be an extension of them ethnically and so on and you'd be similar to them so because they don't know they what are they going to say is it you know some people say 60 days it's 40 days it's he just says look just ask the women what is it and they'll give you an average so you just go with that so yeah so this was the birth of uh Imam Malik as a young child he um born and raised in Medina his family were religious but they had

some freedoms as they did they weren't um you know Draconian towards him so he grew up very um just chilled out and he wasn't actually that religious growing up as a kid Imam Malik he was very drawn to music and singing and so he as a young man as a young boy let's say so he wanted to become a singer and he would kind of sing and he would do stuff and he was just more interested in that so he

he did like many young boys then he wore an earring um this comes as a surprise to many people today they think because the I guess the Muslim culture changed over time so then as Islam spread out and the cultures changed many people stopped wearing like they wouldn't wear earrings and so they would think this is only only girls wear earrings but many of the Great imams in the early Islamic period especially in Arabia uh the great had the theme like Imam Malik like Sofia like all these people used to wear earrings used to wear his earrings into his Hadith DARS where he

would learn Hadith so they were people later on as they became older older men they stopped wearing them but they weren't it wasn't that the you see now the question is people see this is the question where people say oh my god well how could that be because it becomes as a shock because they think it's Haram for men to wear earrings and this is why Imam Malik's fatwa in the uh uh expanding on the other year is that when he says to make your young boys wear

Golden Earrings is makro he doesn't comment on the earring he says because gold shouldn't you know he says it's better to refrain from gold so he said that it's macro but not about the earring he doesn't say anything because if it's about the earring then you ought to say well wait a minute earrings are wrong like so for example if let's say owning a gun is let's say it's forbidden or it's illegal in let's say if we're using those terms and if a person says well what if I own the Golden Gun and the person ought to

say well guns all together are giving that example so when Imam Malik is asked that about people uh placing Golden Earrings on boys young boys very he says that well the he says that gold is not something that really he he's of the he goes with the general understanding that it's makaru he says that this is discouraged because they shouldn't really make them work old and he says even though the boys you know they're just young boys but the parents should know better but he doesn't criticize the earring because in his day and age most boys had

earrings um this is why also the Shia tradition show about the grandsons of the Prophet with earrings um in their reward when they speak of karbala and things like this that how the the earrings were dangling and things like that but I've got a very detailed video about that but it comes as a culture shock and I get that because people think oh my God how that's not the Islam that we're so perceptibly familiar with but that's very um you know Common because the seller for very early in Islam so their Islam

culture hadn't formed clearly or it was still developing it hadn't solidified so if you read about the salaf a lot of them for example had things like the men had ponytails or they had braids many of the men would braid their hair have like these kind of plaits um and and this as you can imagine even today if you saw a man in much of the Muslim world would be really frowned upon but arguably they say in sahil bukhari the prophet had plans not always but some in in the river in bukhari they

say he platted four main plats and tied them but the but today this is because it's not the common culture it comes as a culture shock so yeah so this was Imam Malik's upbringing he was very into music he was very into um singing he was not interested in Islam as much it doesn't mean he was against Islam he just wasn't drawn that way and he asked his mother his mother discouraged him from his mother you know it's alas your destiny determine your destiny his mother gave him that direction

and she said she said to him that look and look at the wisdom she didn't say to him to discourage him what the hell are you doing you know this is a uh you know this is wrong and she said to him that she said but look you look at the culture at Large so Imam Malik for people who don't know he was blonde Imam Malik was blonde with blue eyes he wasn't um like dark haired and dark-eyed he was white and he and so why was he white with blonde hair and blue eyes and this is obviously something coming in his

lineage and that's a different discussion how did that get there um is a discussion for you know a more Arab lineage because there were some Arabs that were like that now people might say well that origin somehow came with some whatever it was I don't know but there were certain Arabs like that and Imam Malik was amongst them he was uh he was known as you azarak he had blue eyes and he has ashkar had blonde hair and so his his mum said to him that look come on you'll never like it just won't fly your project won't take off because people

who's gonna come to watch you perform talk about letting him down slowly it's one ghost mom goes yeah who's gonna come to watch the Gora she goes look come on let's be real it's not you know nobody's gonna you're not gonna get the it's not gonna work you're blonde your blue-eyed you're this you know in in Arabia it's come on so he was a bit disheartened his mom had foresight though

she said to him look why don't you uh why don't you put your mind to some academic study sure you're gifted in music and stuff like this but what about and here Imam Malik thought okay then and little did he know that this choice of his was to immortalize him forever in Islamic history that his his thinking his understanding and interpretation of Islam was to go on

to shape Islamic civilizations to our very age I mean that well that choice right there between should I become a musician or should I [Laughter] it's never too late huh so his mum encouraged him and he listened his elder brother was quite academic islamically and his brother's name was nodbar and this is how Imam Malik would be known as he oh he's another's brother and because his brother was academic but Imam Malik was just more of a chill you

know into music into this his but when he did come onto he put his mind to it and his heart and he was really it Allah opened the path before him that it got to such an extent that his people around him his family his parents his brother everybody eventually came to be known through him that oh that's the father of Malik oh that's the brother of Malik oh that's the it's wow what you know we don't this is the thing you know that what how

is it that have this mindfulness foreign and Allah will from his gems he will teach you teach you things that you do not believe or can imagine that you will know so this journey began of Imam Malik he had some he had some great teachers

um he had teachers ibno Hormuz was one of the major teachers that would always emphasize to him this the way of the people of Medina it was a very famous statement of rabbit that that Mali could continue to utter throughout his life that a thousand from a thousand

is more beloved to me than this one-on-one foreign literature it's all one-on-one on one I heard from who heard from who heard from an elf a thousand people have picked it have learned it from a thousand people this was the living tradition in Medina this is

such a powerful concept that not only that perfectly um instantiates this this debate of Hadith versus Sunnah so these were um Imam Malik's his teachers some of his teachers he he lived in Medina he was a Trader as he grew up he got into trade he was incredibly successful um in trade people said he would um he was a merchant in cloth and things like that he would have Investments coming to Madina he would then trade them in Medina and he made a lot of

money from it so he was wealthy and he took to it to spend money as well he would buy himself expensive suits he would um he would spend money he was he was like very not only wealthy but he he enjoyed the wealth that Allah had given him and he and he took pride in that he wasn't shy about it so sometimes we do have a tradition in Islam where people are very they prefer to almost a a hermetic uh a hermetics or a Hermit kind of or an asceticism that

to abstain from the Dunya so there are there is a tradition like that in Islam but Imam Malik was not from that tradition he spent money he enjoyed money he uh was known to really he was all particular about his food as well he would always eat meat I don't think the vegans would have liked him for that matter always on a daily basis he would eat he said that that meat helps people maintain a strong posture

I guess protein is what he was talking about and he said well it would keep people strong and the faith would if they were people of Faith then people around them felt their presence and by feeling their presence the faith had a presence as in when they spoke of the Deen it had an awe to it so he was very and he was criticized a lot about this kind of stuff so he did uh he did speak about that let me just oh this I see this just moved yeah so he did

um he did do that that was um his his whole attitude and people used to criticize him that how can you you know it's not from this is Indulgence and but he he what he was who he was the legend Allah and he became so committed to the study of Hadith and ferk and learning that he became an Imam in his age in his lifetime he was so celebrated everybody people would come to they knew

who he was you know they say in Hajj he um people would follow like they would just see what is Malik doing and they would just imitate that to the extent they say once uh Imam Malik something um he was sitting in I think Mina and as he's sitting something he had this arida like a cloak and he got trapped under him under him so he stood up and he straightened his thing and people stood up

like they're thinking that they were thinking this is this is the religious act to do at this stage this is the way that they would copy him and when it came to matters of the faith in Hadith he was it was untouchable in Hadith his chain is considered by Imam bukhari to be the most strongest chain that exists in Hadith literature it's called the golden chains

um from the prophet so between Malik and the prophet there are two people so this is considered the golden chain which is not it's it's in the mothball but it's not the only as in Imam Malik uses other chains but that's in there as well and the Motta was one of the first one of the earliest compendiums of Hadith literature Imam Malik was not trying to compile Hadith as a collective but what he was doing is

putting together a selection okay it is the mother is arguably the most authentic book in Hadith from a hadithi perspective okay it is it naturally it predates a predate by some generations the very existence of Imam bukhar so let alone his book Imam bukhari's own acknowledgment Imam Malik's chain is it is nothing it is the most authentic chain in the

entire Hadith literature this is the position of Imam Malik why do people not put Imam Malik's book as number one because the malachiadu and some of the people to you and other people do consider them what thought to be the the most authentic book there is but why does why do the shafi's or the other people not the sheff dominated the Hadith literature why do they not consider why do the salafia not consider it why do

um and there may be many reasons amongst them that well some people felt well it's well it's it's only a small number of Hadith there's only about 1800 Hadith in there whereas the other books have whether it's going to be seven thousand six thousand four thousand ten thousand twelve thousand and so this is a small collection of Hadith therefore it's not of equal measure that may be a reason another reason is as well that Imam Malik speaks in the motto and you say well what's the problem with him speaking

doesn't Imam turmidi speaks in his termiti he says well such and such scholar acted according to this Hadith such and such didn't he says well such and such person is weak such and such person so that's fine you know it's not a uh I would I would sometimes speaks in his uh Imam bukhari sometimes speaks in his book so what's the problem with speaking well it's not speaking per se it's what's being spoke

Imam Malik brings the Hadith not always but he brings the happy and then he says we don't act according to this Hadith he says he says you know this Hadith we in our city and here I ask you what city in our city in this city in the one that counts

in the city of the prophet no other City matters it is just Medina full stop so he says we in our city do not act upon this Hadith this is a catastrophic meteor

in the face of the second wave mahadithin project this attitude so Imam Malik is the part of the first wave of where Hadith is being developed uh not developed it is is development is the Proto stage but now it's being compiled and written and and they are part and parcel of the Hadith project the first era a first wave the second wave is the mahati theme like all these people and these people so in the first wave

Imam Malik has said this Within the second wave it is all about the Hadith project to bring a Hadith and say well according in our city we don't practice this you know there is no action this Hadith is not to be actioned in our city Allah that's that's a collision of biblical proportions people for the Hadith dogmatists this is why but then you could say well

what makes this worse or more complicated is the person who's saying it see the person who's saying it is Allah you see now Imam Malik in the Islamic Legacy is a force of nature he is

and he is that the prophet said that there will be a time you shook that there is almost a time it's almost here it's not here but it's almost where people will start to rush to seek knowledge they will be you know like a a gold rush they will be an elmrush a knowledge Rush people will come from Far distances to seek knowledge in that time

in that age it is not in the prophet's time but in that age they will not find anyone more knowledgeable than the Alim of Madina shortly after the sahaba's time in the turbine time in the late turbine time this culture began where people started to travel to seek knowledge

and they say there was never in such an era they were either let's say just shortly before Imam Malik many people in Medina so there was never a scholar that people referred to as the designated scholar of Medina they were the for example for Imam Malik's teachers you know as the poet says

and so uh these they were these many ulama of Medina but in Malik's time which is the same time he's growing up but as he grows into an older man and they've all passed away and this era has fully blossomed people are traveling from Horizon people are coming from Uzbekistan people are coming from people are coming from andalus Muslim Spain to seek knowledge in that time there was only one scholar in Medina and

that was referred to as that was Imam Malik this is why many Allama said Sophia other people said we understood this Hadith to be embodied in Imam Malik see this is the status of Malik when it comes to understanding The Deen it's done an unparalleled dog untouchable when it comes to Hadith he's a mirror movie

[Laughter] what do you do with a guy like that when he says oh this Hadith who's transmitting it I'm transmitting it what Sana are you transmitting it with the golden chain nobody can beat this on Earth he says oh yeah that Hadith there is no action upon this Hadith in our city maybe in your city there is but in our city the city of the Prophet we don't act according to that

this was a nuclear fission fusion fission bomb in the face of the later Hadith dogmatist project therefore this is perhaps also one of the reasons that Imam Malik's muappa is not factored into when they say the six major books because the six major books project is a chef a project it's not it's done by people who belong to the chef who were for the most part had these dogmatists so it it was that loggerhead and and it you see it's difficult to criticize Imam

Malik he's he's very you know to criticize him you know well good luck it's difficult people there's other imams who are soft targets every other Imam has some apparent vulnerability was not as good in Hadith people criticized him Imam was not actually as well trained in Hadith people criticized him he wasn't as reliable Imam Ahmed was not as trained in the understanding in the fact of the Teen many scholars did not recognize him as much you name the imams many of them

had some weak spot Malik was one of the few Legends of Islam that unanimously everybody held him in all but they he just had this Authority about him and so and this is why his mother you see his mother is built on his what his school is built on the Medina the living tradition of Medina this is why we are not Hadith dogmatists not we who follow the tradition of Medina his school was known as the school of Medina we who follow the school of Medina are

not Hadith dogmatists Hadith relativists as in we embrace the Sunnah where the Hadith correlates with the Sunnah we embrace it where it doesn't we we don't Hadith is simply a historical it's just a historical data the Sunnah however is the teaching of the prophet sallallahu in the Deen Hadith is a written document Samsung now were documented some so now were never documented some non-sunna actions were documented you see so this is

this is where you appreciate wow the wealth that Imam Malik brings to the Islamic Legacy by documenting these things because if somebody today had tried this they would have been anathematized they would have been excommunicated deemed a car fare chucked out of Islam they would have all but Imam Malik good luck trying any of that so yeah so this was his and then his mother was built on muscle which is wealthy

so you see his mother of his fatawa this is why Imam Malik is his teacher was rabbit he's from the people of reason the voice of reason he would make exemptions he would say that even if there is a ruling that has come to us from Islam if the day and age had a welfare that dictated something we would derogate from and make an exception we would make an exemption and an exception from this ruling and you call that

in the molecule so this is why Imam Malik's fatawa I like that and his mother is a continuation of that so another cataclysmic Cosmic meteor in the face of dogmatism because Imam Malik's mother was then all about muscle not all about it but people disagree that even malikism always agree on things amongst themselves but this is what it was and we've got to speak about the mother on another day because it's

the only method of the the of Islam that had so much diversity throughout the globe from Spain to the Middle East to Central Africa I mean that's wow Nomad have did that no matter reached that kind of uh geographical diversity so yeah that's about his um his mother but coming back to him Imam Malik he as a person he spent his early portion of his life

learning knowledge like he says his life could have in hindsight been divided into three he spent the first third learning the second third learning and giving back and the last third primarily just giving back and yeah he was criticized by people for not being seen as someone who was very um immersed in worship so he would not I mean he would pray his and his daily prayers but he wouldn't pray many nothing you wouldn't see him praying

many nothing you wouldn't see him fasting voluntary fasts you wouldn't see this kind of worship uh from him so he was criticized about this a very famous incident but Imam Malik responds by saying look somebody says to him why don't I ever see you praying nafal why don't I ever you know you indulge in meat and you have expensive clothes and you you know what is this this is not Islam and Imam Malik's reply to him is actually very beautiful he says that he doesn't diss him he says look I respect what you do

you immerse yourself in worship but he says look we are all upon goodness you worship I teach people I discuss with people I have religious religious discussions I convey the living tradition I expand on ideas religious ideas with people he said look we we all he said it's not that what you are doing is better necessarily than what I'm engaged in

that let us be each to their own the paths to God are manifold and this is once you know there's an incident that Imam Malik was he was sitting there in his student was saying there and it was almost the Adan had gone and Imam and even wahab was uh he is an Egyptian student he's from the main the main Egyptian students from Imam Malik or Abdullah

these are the main um misery in students and they spend decades with Malik by the way at least two two they spend about two decades and IBN wahab spends three decades with him so even when the Adan goes off ibno wahab closes the book he was making notes and stuff he closes the book to get up to pray nothing and Imam Malik says to him Allah says easy there tiger oh tiger he says he says he's not stopping him but he says don't be mistaken in assuming that

what you're going to do is somehow better than what you were doing huh absolutely see those who know it can understand it that there is a there is something about the Legacy about being devoted to learning that don't don't don't don't us underestimate its value don't think somehow going towards nafal is some how more valuable in the eyes of God than this sure if you want to do it do it he's not stopping him

but yeah so this was his lifestyle he had such you know one thing about Imam Malik is he had this that this bewildering love for the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam that once he would not tolerate any disrespect towards the prophet and this isn't about a kind of intolerance this was his love he just felt that he felt once somebody cracked a joke about

um something about the prophet's cloak an Imam Malik's reprimanded him that look don't this to us too he said this is the most beloved of people like why are you doing that how could you think that that would be funny to us he declared in Islam that Medina because it's the resting place of the Prophet salallahu it is the most of the book it is the most virtuous place on Earth above Mecca that's and

such it is in the Maliki method we consider Medina to be more virtuous than Makkah the other methods disagree but the Maliki method beholds Medina to be the most virtuous place so and Imam Malik never left madinah ever he on one occasion he went for Hajj and that was it he said that I refuse to leave the city of the Prophet for anything even prayed he he had people working for him he had intermediaries that would bring goods and stock and and he would have it traded in Medina but he would never leave Medina

he was asked about that and he said that he said that it's not that I haven't considered it but he says that I always think that I want Medina to be my final resting place and what if death is to reach me somewhere else Allah see that's another kind of love that he had for the prophet and this is why his his mother was the most strict when it came to matters of loving the prophet it was not about a kind of barbarism or anything like this it was just it was a love that's what it was

Imam Malik himself never wore shoes in Medina you know in the streets of Martin he there he he would wear it around his let's say in his own building in his home and things like this but around the Masjid and those places he would take his shoes off no I don't mean in the mosque I mean the the streets surrounding the area that vicinity and so on because that slightly built a bit more by Imam Malik's time so in those outskirt places fine but as he got closer the vicinity and the streets and the areas he said that this is

certainly where the Prophet so he said that I find it just out of his love this is not an Islamic ruling he said that this that this is where the Prophet set foot so I find it just in myself unacceptable to wear shoes not that he he didn't he didn't object to people doing that he refused to ride any uh ride a horse or a you know a mule or a donkey or anything in those parts of Medina out of love for the prophet sallallahu you know this is why well when they

tried to torture him they tried to punish him so later on Imam Malik gets into some not trouble but that well there's a Revolution going on and Muhammad Naf zakiya's Revolution and we could speak about that another day and Imam Malik he's not fond of revolutions but he implicitly lends some support because people say well look

they say well is it permissible we want to we want to support the revolution but we have already pledged our allegiance to the Abbasi caliph at the time abujah and is it haram then and then people had said to them well were you happy when present when you pledged Your Allegiance and they said well we weren't really happy about it we were we were somewhat coerced we had no choice and they asked Imam Malik can you give a

ruling and Imam Malik he wasn't political he didn't want to get involved but he understood the quandary and their dilemma so he said look at he said the talaq of a person who is coerced is not a talaq make of that what you will and then he transmitted it as a Hadith which is a Hadith from who from IBN Abbas and who are the rulers ambassy doubles

and they said to Imam Malik you're not allowed to transmit you got to stop transmitting this Hadith but the divorce of a coerced person is not a divorce and Malik said but why not laughs he said if you ask me to not get involved in things sure but to not transmit the words of the prophet he said who do you think you are he said

to say Do not transmit the words of the prophet and on purpose Imam Malik transmitted this chain he used the chain going through to say that look for your greed you built this caliphate on the back of IBN Abbas and his teaching of the Prophet today you will sabotage for your greed let that be a lesson to you let you drop your head and hang your head in shame

and they what they did is they did they beat Imam Malik for that and one of the punishments they did is they made him sit on a donkey and ride that donkey in Medina and Imam Malik would never ride a beast or a donkey or a horse or a mule inside Martin in the inner part of Medina and they made him do it as in they tied him up and put him on this donkey and just as a kind of humiliation but but honor and humiliation is ultimately from

Allah foreign ERS that try to humiliate him they apologized later on they tried to apologize to him and say that ah you know Imam Malik said look I don't hold no grudges what's happened is how they whipped him publicly um they they beat him severely publicly

and he he he stood he took it they never and then he just kind of kept himself to him see the thing was Imam Malik didn't like the politics he didn't like the bureaucracy even regular things people get shocked that Imam Malik for the last 25 years of his life didn't even attend the local Masjid he did used to teach though at home but he just didn't now people say well why didn't he attend the Masjid why didn't he and then this disturbs them you see because they have a and say well maybe it's because he was sick

maybe but he could teach at home but he it seems that when he was asked about this in one of the narrations he just says that look he says I I don't want to see something that irritates me because then I I can't help but speak if I speak I'm going to create problems you know what tell y'all you guys live your life I'm gonna live my life and that's what it seems to be some people say maybe it was because he his health

was really bad after the beating and I doubt I mean it could be but then he used to teach at home he continues to teach up until his he dedicated so much time today so it's not like people say oh he couldn't control his he had incontinence couldn't control his urine if that was the case how was he teaching Hadith home for hours upon that was he would teach and you teach fatwa he would teach all these things right up until his his dying breath so to me it doesn't seem that but sure people could um could say that and he was uh one of the

things that he he had this Integrity about teaching and he did used to say and this it made me think as well you know I came across this recently and I thought yeah I have to start again you know Imam Maliki said that anybody who's who's learned something he said whatever happens never give up teaching it says no matter you know where and how you find yourself in life never

let go of the path of teaching yeah I came across this recently and well I came across it again recently and I thought I have to teach again ah there is something Sami yulum

Allah as the poet says that these are titles and these are words they don't increase them in any any kind of uh Value Inn you know we mention it because it gives us a it gives us a a pleasure an enjoyment but I I will continue more about uh Imam Malik but what we can see is there was this man who as a very young as a young boy he he

chose a path that determined his destiny and he struggled along the way as well he met like all of us we will meet our challenges but he gave us a lamp in the darkness because what he did is what we see why is it important is he showed us that you can understand the Deen in this way that there is this muscle how wealthy that there is this Hadith relativism that there is a difference between Hadith and Sunnah that there are that

there is that the Sharia hasid that this is how you can do he taught us that and the person he was his teachings can they can't just they can't just be ignored as in you can't just it's not easy to just say well ah it's just it's just Imam Malik he's a legend in Islam so we are very I find myself so it has been one of the joys of learning the legacy of Islam has been this affiliation to the school of Medina that I found myself honestly

in harmony with this school that whenever I had an certain a way of let's say without knowing what things would be or what what do I think Islam would say based on my understanding my understanding often my answer was in line with the school of Medina that there was such a Harmony so yeah and he would and it's fascinating that there were certain verses he would often repeat you would often repeat one was like husband Allah often found Imam Malik Allah is sufficient for us

you know we gotta rely on people let's relax why not honestly I sometimes we we are going to ask people for things let's ask Allah just ask God let's see what happens man and and there's another verse that he would often repeat that

we are at best all we have is conjecture and we lack certainty in this affair wow that we only but think that all we can bring to this table is but an assumption woman

we don't have yaquin in the matter that's huge man that's huge because let that be a reminder we in this day and age people they they get they freak out if somebody says well I think this is the answer I feel that this is oh no you should say they want I get it the people want certainty they wanted but this realm this whole existence is the one the ultimate certainty is just Allah we have to understand that whatever we

think is an answer is ultimately our understanding of what we think is the answer you see whatever we see and understand is limited by our understanding and if we're hearing it from someone it's limited by their understanding and if they heard it from someone it's limited by their understanding so it is ultimately

could often recite that when teaching people when giving them answers about the theme um and he left us a very rich tradition the school of Medina he left us his book or the mother it is more a collection of Hadith A small collection about 1800 Hadith his children he had three children I believe he had uh two boys one girl Muhammad Yahya and Fatima

and what many people may not know it was actually his daughter that that took the the lamp of his legacy and marched forward with it she continued to teach his classes and things after him she was the one that was the most bright and his son um I forget I I think I believe it was uh might have been Yahya or was it Muhammad but his sons were just one of his sons was just barely okay he was never

impressed with his sons he was he really was fascinated with his daughter as in he felt that he was so that she was so intelligent and she was so academically bright that she'd memorized all the Hadith and she would teach and often in his class she would be sitting in a different part of the house but they had sometimes a that not they had a um like a curtain and she would be doing some household stuff but if she heard some of the students sitting with Malik make a mistake in the Hadith think she would correct it from the other side she

would say what it was she would say that such and such made him was a person somebody made a mistake this is how it is Allah and his sons Imam Malik won he they were they weren't really they never took his place and one of them he was quite disappointed one of them um I think it was yeah it might have been Muhammad he wasn't interested at all in the Legacy and he would often come through walk through if the house whilst Imam Malik's class was going on he just had an earring on he would drag his cloth you know how back then you

went went to it was frowned upon to drag your kind of garment behind you the izzar he would often be doing that and he would have a falcon Falcon yeah falcon or Hulk and he would often be playing with he would really loved falconry and so he would be just playing with that and so he'd come through the house with just [Laughter] and then some of the people would be like oh that's that's Imam Malik's son Imam Ali could just be like hmm my Malik would just say to them that well

let's praise God who did not allow knowledge to be something that could simply be inherited see that's a really fast look how Imam Malik saw that he didn't see even though he he may have felt some disappointment but in that disappointment he saw the positive that wow that look at the value Allah left that this is something that one must struggle for to determine it to determine their own destiny it is not something that you could

simply inherit that is that is wow even in that he saw it as a a positive reminder so people let's wrap up with that on the legacy of the legend Imam Malik and what I'll do is I'll take a look at some comments and I'll share the the if you guys want to jump on we can wrap this up um

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been distracted in my own world so yeah what was going on activate Auto Tune I don't know if I haven't uh what that is but I've pressed it onto this hopefully it's doing something it's gone into one of the there are some there's another feature as well so this feature is for the

Scott headphones on this I'm hoping it's well right okay so um right I'm going to share the link in here um I think it's the airpods right okay so clear saying it's all fine shukran much appreciated right yeah so people I've blocked whoever was spamming about the dating sites saying nothing you're trying to corrupt the

speaking of sight I saw a um I haven't watched a but there was a small clip like a a short from a uh discussion a podcast uh Tilly Hussein's podcast with um forgotten the name of the guy I think it's is it Madi something and it was about a new Muslim intimacy platform rather and I it's called I think no strings

Nika and it's what it's saying is that basically to have a um an easy like a no a low commitment I guess that's it yes so basically not even a low commitment just intimacy and companionship so I so this is so this is now the new craze okay right now

I can't I um I don't know how successful things like that would be I'm sure many men would be on there but from a female perspective I don't know although the need is there clearly so I guess if the need is there then it comes down to the simple laws of supply and demand um

interesting that would be right what what in what time what day and age are we living in people but I did you know well years ago when I spoke about the concept of low commitment for people who who felt the need for them not that this is for everyone to do but I said that this low commitment thing that when I spoke saying that there is According to some Sunni Scholars the concept of motor and and I did speak about that arguing that look this

this does make sense obviously most people consider it haram and so if you consider it haram fine but these people don't consider it haram including ibna ashur the great Maliki legend of the 20th century so I had said well this would be a potential um Avenue for people as an answer to the Contemporary complexities that people are facing so it was deemed really um notorious and people were really upset I

don't know if they were upset but they were very condemning that I had said things like that but now it's interesting that as the day and age moves on more and more people are like whoa that but it would be I wonder how the pla is it all in it can't all be in secrecy so obviously people on it must know other people are on it I take it so they must be like you you yeah no no no this is uh this one I was just a tourism tourism

ah it's Gotta make for some uh interesting when a child this person's on here as well laughs well people [Music] Allah all right so what is going on I remember watching a video about robot so basically yep so yeah this had come up yeah oh that was his name Matty is he linked to the journey

or is he I don't know actually this would be interesting I don't really know anything about this person I don't know whether he's inclined to the tijani tariqa and is he in that way not that he has to be learned or anything to open up a an app it is just I get it's I can see the angle that sees this as denigrating on disparaging I can see that angle people say well it's just

it's destructive to the values of of relationships and stuff like that see that I can also see that people the the other argument that people would say well this is clearly a need that people have and what are they supposed to do and and you could see well okay you could see that as well although I would guess that look people who are just going to do things or do things anyway they don't really need a platform but I guess it may be more so a struggle for

ironically I think maybe maybe or counter-intuitively more so a struggle for certain women who may be of a certain that let's say they find themselves in certain I don't know in certain structures in life where they don't really want a full y commitment relationship and maybe they just want some companionship and some intimacy but they want to like women's let's say they're focusing they have already have their families family is not a sinner not as

in their husband and that would be hilarious you go look I've already got my husband here they've got let's say children or and they've got careers and they as you can imagine I think relationships overall it's not even a Muslim issue I think relationships are just really difficult in our current times as a conceptually speaking we don't know what to what's happening with them because everything is so centered around love love love love love love that and that's not that there's

anything wrong with that but it's that we're selling people we're selling people a impart in part we know what we are selling for more people is mythical in part at least because sure well first of all some people may never find that feeling feeling and because Society is so pushing this feeling that if you don't have this feeling of Cloud9 and the one and then it's not the one and many people may never feel that in their lives okay so that that well what about these people they will always feel lacking

so that's one issue the other issue is that well even if people do feel it like any feeling it will subside and then what then well now I'm out of this feeling what do I do now I need to and then Society tells them well if you don't still if you're not in love see so there's a difference with loving someone and being in love and sure maybe some people are and they manage to stay in love but I would I think it would be difficult to feel that that maybe that most of societies like that

I don't think most of society is in love in perpetuity like perpetually so so I just feel sorry for the pressure that these people face because then they're told oh then you need to wrap this up because you're living a lie and yes I just it's like damn you don't know what hmm like where is society but I hope that there's a a bit of everything you know there is that there is this that people do find let's say

somebody they find meaning with they find that love with if they can but if they don't at least they find meaning because they don't need to feel pressured and because ultimately what is love this is where the song comes on what is love ultimately what is it and if they find meaning that that's great and if they find pragmatism then that's great and if they find friendship than that great and if they find but it they they shouldn't be dictated to by the pressures of society

may Allah make it easy for each and all that tread that path what's the as the poet says that anybody oh there's no if you can come on this this kind of cobbled Rocky terrain of a path to reach this then most welcome but there is no only passageway to my about right people let's move on to getting some

seeing some guests that have come uh we've got once again spammed by let me block some of these uh look at this Allah we find meaning only with Mal Allah look this person gets it Allah I love maths I love you too [Laughter] there you go this is a nice comment look um being in love is an emotion while loving someone is dedication that's a very

mature statement I like that that it is it's it is the the kind of because it it's not the emotion it's it's something much greater it's a part of something much greater sure but don't these these things require a lot of maturity and the problem is this is the quandary again that you're not going to get to the maturity until you've at least got to a certain amount of an age or a certain amount of experience yeah so let's see who have we got here that has tuned in

alive what's this are we getting some no I've blocked right let me write uh-huh but just to say before I go and bring somebody on live this is me just exploring I'd seen a certain clip and just exploring a topic don't think oh I'm saying I'm it's just

interesting to explore that's all that okay what are these people saying and I wonder how these things would even unfold because the society including the Muslim Society so rapidly changing and the fact that people are now let's say more the kind of you know the more kind of tricked dogmatist types are opening up to some of these conversations is interesting because you think Macha is this a car crash in slow motion possibly is it something else well it's just it is what it is I guess

right okay we've got here uh honest Fareed anas Fareed let me bring up assalamu alaikum foreign uh I'm joining you from here Pakistan Paragould oh Pakistan I totally didn't assume that I thought hey I thought you'd talk from somewhere people thank you

everything yeah so what's going on something behind your precious mind what would you like to share with us today

Gigi um and I and when I when I started a notification popped up and I saw that oh Mufti has a testimony Ernest oh

I take it in maybe a connection connectivity issue we've lost him see that automatically but hopefully he'll be back and we can bring him back till then I've shared the link again if people want to jump on more than welcome um I've got ashiko Rahman assalamu alaikum

I'm good alhamdulillah now you're a familiar face I've seen you many times now uh now we remember as soon as we were like yeah this is we are done um Allah

what a name huh you know when people say what's your name say ashikan what's your name say lover well it's interesting I come to know about its meaning um understand its meaning a few years back all right okay the lover lover of the most merciful nashik of Rahman and and by extension in Sun by extension by loving Rahman you you're also loving the creation the makrook of

Rahman as well he can't just love the whole of humanity foreign

only through love the vastness of universe the vastness of the universe is available to us universe and Cosmos yeah through love like we experience it through love it is true it is I because of its um what you find is some of the most profound if we can call it an entity is something it's although I don't know whether we can call love an entity but one of the most profound Concepts or profound things let's just say a

thing will be that which is the most difficult to Define yeah like Consciousness like love you can't Define it like you ask somebody to give you a definition of love they don't know what to say it's like how do you explain it it's true um you're searching for it it's meaning it's meaning what's her name

let's get her on this live stream it's gonna be catastrophic she is searching for the past year what is what does love mean people what does it mean it's true you can't Define it you know you ask somebody to give you the definition of Love they say well uh is it affection so what is it just affection is it just no no it's is it um they will say is it a caring or is it caring no well no it's not caring because is it it's they could say well

it's an emotion sure but but anger is an emotion you know frustration uh worrying I mean what what well now it's uh it's you know it's something that you can't explain it you can't explain what love is and and yet in it's very instant we all recognize it yeah just like consciousness we all know what it means to be conscious to have that first person experience to be the thing that is having experiences to be the thing that is knowing

we all know that what it is but yet we can't float like something in itself you can't explain it you could just say well it's the thing that has conscious that has experienced a thing that has because and we all know it intimately but we can't explain we can't capture it you see it's it's like a fragrance you know John Elias is what is it is

[Music] he fills color into fragrance but a fascinating thing about that because he's speaking about his poetry he says well what does John Elia do all he does is just puts color into the fragrance because fragrance cannot be seen foreign and in this way you can now see it so he's saying that it's not that his his poetry is akin to that so yeah and his poetry is is all about tough love so

that's uh I had a picture of him which is very um interesting you'd like him um please start like this that uh foreign foreign

that I you that I didn't even found myself I didn't even become acquainted as income face to face with myself so often I didn't even meet myself so even for the last thing we call Life yeah and what and what hurts even more is that you too I I met so infrequently like it's the these poems of his where he's speaking about meeting and that they have very profound layers to them very it's talking about an existential you

it's talking about what do we actually that they they've really show the depth of people yeah so what so what else has is been preoccupying your thoughts not really much just listening poetry and doing some that's happening I I really admire your admiration for poetry and your love for it at this very young age I think that's

so that's happy I started uh poetry um in the year this year first from January and then I I found your videos that yeah you really uh interpreted I listened to you from the last two years but I got to know that you also a very uh fan of poetry with the Poetry love poetry man absolutely it makes it I feel you know this is this is a statement that says that a man who or a person it's not just restricted but this

particular thing is more addressing is saying men it says that a man who does not appreciate poetry does not truly substantially appreciate Beauty that there is a a link and Inseparable Bond and bind between that people who have if you find a person who doesn't really appreciate either they just never got to

in life but usually such people will not maybe they think they appreciate Beauty but it's not the same like they will not have a true grasp for the appreciation of Beauty in life that there is this mind between people who can are telling an indicator of people who have a grasp for appreciating uh true beauty in life one of the indications will be that they have uh an appreciation for people for poetry because there is this because all of

these things they can be reduced to even mathematical um structures as well because how we see beauty and how we see things in in an abstract way that there is looking at words in a metric uh structure but placed semantically in such a way that syntactically sorry in such a way that they that they kind of surprise you and they shine and they beam this kind of Radiance if you can't appreciate that with words it shows that even in the rest of the

world you will probably lack in your appreciation of beauty but yeah yeah I think poetry is the Pinnacle of expression so well said Well Done in Sun after all that Allah says taught him expression foreign foreign

yeah this is this is you know many people don't think about this I remember a place to be like where we actually be the being of you or a place or a becoming because imagine the other way is you take it as a meme uh a master meme so one is you take it as a man that this is to become or to be yeah and the being as in a becoming being like sorry or Sarah

uh he became such and such or how was it people may ask masir being the noun either of a place like you're saying well that's one way as well and like yes that it is with Allah that this place where you it is this being oh imagine you take the it to be a master this time this is a uh uh a valuable noun of being a verbal noun of being

itself that to Allah eventually is the ultimate being there's the idea of being that your ultimate sense that you hear are being there is a an entity this being with a capital b u b here there is this this this of you but the illallah but it will be back to Allah with Allah and of the real being the sense of being

with a capital B when you be that it will be back with Allah now this is It's just such a mystically profound way to look at this verse I remember thinking about that uh a little while back actually that I thought whoa okay this is wow and people often another way that they can see it as people translate it Allah it's like ultimate hallucination like they say oh the outcome is with God

they're saying the outcome of the is with God so that's one way but the other way is is you state of being your place of being with is with God or being itself as you in being is with god with God it's such a fabulous mind-boggling uh verse with it's it's kind of formosity when we think of it whoa okay so I heard about it from

lecture he just said this comes for the family and his meaning like he didn't really elaborate at all but when I thought about it's like they take they take it and it's slightly more low level understanding the outcome of um or the outcome of the Amala or the outcome of that out being is with God but the other way is to see it as well it's talking about you not just the outcome it's not an abstract thing so yeah that is really profound

who which demands your whole being seek a path which demands here holding yeah yeah it's something man because it is it is what what is what does it mean to be is a um you know being it is like in its and of itself it is a it is something that can be so filled like on one layer it can seem so simple and almost simplistic that what what is

that uh like be like love yeah but it's so difficult when you try to get into it to explain because to be what is that and you can say well well something what something what that's right because you speak here you would have to here you would entrap it encapsulate it within a sense of time but ironically being is also deeply rooted in in the now that it is

being but in many ways the ever existing now in either categorically always exists or never exists because every even time so this layers to this discussion that you could take it yeah wow for such a young for such a young guy and your thoughts your your mind it is it's so it's it's so much ahead of its age

[Music] one thing going off in the background from Dhaka some very profound um thoughts we could see there we've got a few of the people who've joined um I've got Omar Omar assalamu alaikum I'm glad I caught you before I have to head off so it's oh yes alarm see it's all it's it's it's testing it's all been written where are you joining us from Sydney Australia so wow all right now as

soon as you said it I heard the accent coming in I was like there it is right there the accent anyway I don't expect nothing like that but I just thought I'd put that in anyway I just wanna uh for a little while I hope the audio is clean yeah we can hear you yeah yeah that's great uh so regarding slavery we know that it was officially banned say in the 1900s or so islamically and um correct me if I'm wrong now just that that concept of slavery first of all being in the Quran and then and then like you know just the ruling

being in the Quran can it be banned on like you know what I mean like can the ruling be changed even when it's in within the Quran because the reason why I think about this is because I think about a lot now with regards to the multiple wives scenario you know and uh the polygamy and I just see it well what I know I saw that smile Omar as you said no no I see many tales I'm not many stories that are wrong I'm not trying to say I see it problematic but what I'm I do see the way that people are behaving with it you know and and the way that a lot of broken homes are becoming and and the way they use this I don't know side chick as their second wife or you know

you know that this the whole that's what I see around me anyway I don't know about anything no because no one happens in many places that look what you have is there is a sense people well what will happen is you see this is okay so this is the problem what will happen is that in many cases people do not let's say take responsibility as it were uh they and and I'm not people may have their own problems and everybody's sure this isn't about trying to say these are that fault picking but this is just as it is as we see it so people maybe let's

say not pulling their weight at home not doing things not taking care of someone not doing whatever they may generally have a lot of issues maybe they're up to so many like maybe they just do drugs maybe they drink alcohol maybe they do all these things and this isn't to judge them I'm just saying it descriptively they do all these maybe they're gambling maybe they're watching all these things maybe they're beating their wives maybe they and then what happens is they will say ah well okay I'm going to get a second wife or let's say they they do it they say oh um and they say well this is Islam

and and you see the the problem is that the problems right there steering Us open in the face because this clearly that there's an Evidence self-evident kind of hypocrisy that's leaping out because the people are thinking well let's be honest you're not really so bothered about um maybe in your heart of hearts you do value Islam but you're not so bothered about the manifestation of Islam and you're not so bothered about like you let's say in these cases people don't pray and I'm not judging them but I'm just describing the scenario and they don't um do these things when it comes to

Islam and they don't do generally good things and and now what what they're doing is they're justifying something which which they want to do anyway but okay now they're justifying it by Islam and so it naturally infuriates the other person because the the wife in this scenario would say well well I understand in many scenarios wives would you know may would not be happy with that scenario with that situation but in these in many of which happen to be most of the cases that you come across it's just absolutely it's like what the hell are you even on about you know what

what has Islam got to do with this and don't try to shove Islam in my face and so it just turns into this uh disaster and people and and it's no surprise that whatever they're doing also turns out to be a huge mess and you know because they just it's because the whole thing is from the get-go we set up with just I guess people are just doing what they want to do and fair enough people do what they want to do but when they justify one thing with Islam well okay that that's where and that too something that's going to be a slap in you know it's going to be like a big it's going to be hurtful

now I do also get the fact as well that look polygamy in Islam I do feel that there are certain cases where it does actually work out to help and does help sorry to cut you off I only know like a handful of people that it really does work and they're doing an amazing job and and the women that they help out and and their attentions but they're doing it amazingly and contrary to most of say over 95 with what I see anyway is like you said a lot of them are not pulling their weight at home and then they either blame the kids or the misses and then they go somewhere else and they go because I need yeah

100 I agree with you and let's roll it back I feel that what what we have you know a moment ago we spoke briefly I said this discussion about this kind of um Muslim hookup what date was it this kind of website you know where they're going to have these kind of things and it comes it's coming back to I guess it's somewhat tied into this discussion let's roll it back the problem is with Muslims specifically maybe this In some cultures it's the broader culture and in many places especially Muslim culture like I can speak about in the UK

I don't know how it is in Australia but I'm assuming it may be similar that Muslims unfortunately have bring they they have a lot of immaturity when it comes to relationships a lot now this may be because um here the boys let's say the men are often Molly coddled and they kind of they are they stay at home till they they live with their parents they never encourage to become independent men like they are encouraged to work but they're not encouraged you see it's not being mature isn't just getting a job being

mature is handling a bit of life as well and if you you we do have this culture here where people let's say the the guy comes home his mom you know bless Allah bless everybody's mothers that with the love they have let's say oh my son's home all my sons and and so and this kind of culture and what it happens is you now just have grown-up Boys still like so they they like man child so they they are a man biologically but they still at the mental capacity or in the emotional

capacity sorry not mental that I mean they do understand things they are intelligent but they they have an emotional capacity of a child like they'll throw a tantrum if something happens and they don't and then they don't know how to behave in relationships experience as well so yeah so now they'll tell the wife of you but and then and I'm not saying look sometimes it's it's both sides it's not just but I do see a slight inequality I see that this has maybe just been my exposure I have seen a lot of men it has affected more that they seem to like both sides

are slightly can have immaturity but I see sometimes it being slightly more from the men coming into the relationship and maybe the part of it is culture putting on them this expectation oh do you know this is what you should expect from your wife a b and c and then they're like well and then at the same time they're thinking should we be Eastern should we be Western should we be and they don't know what how to behave and they don't know who to copy so what they do is just metaphorical car crash after car crash it's like a disaster we shout they insult they humiliate they start becoming

controlling oh don't dress like this and you think well oh don't do this don't do it and you think I I don't want you you're not allowed to you know they become over kind of this this kind of jealousy kicks in this kind of insecurities kick in and you think well wait a minute like you need a certain amount of either you're an adult or you're not an adult like if you go this isn't like the woman is not a child he said well I don't want her going out and why what do you what do you think's wrong look I think at the very beginning of the marriage a lot of that happens because yeah we're still learning and maturity is kicking in which is not I think the issue I think the issue is

like as long as you're willing to build and learn together and and trying to you know take the next steps together and that's what I'm trying to say is that I don't see that happening and and I there's foreign or saying anything wrong but going back to the initial question of like would it ever be say banned or you know like just just Wall Street on this we'll come to that but whilst we're on this you see the problem don't you feel Omar is that once these things happen you know when you say look sure uh and I don't I don't know what the answer is here about this thing I'm not talking about the other question this thing because why aren't I mean what is the solution because the

solution is a life kind of solution so it's not going to just be in some words but when these things happen and you say well people can just learn from them the problem is we we it's really difficult to not frame the other person in our experience of them so if I have this experience with you that our history has now been tainted like I've got this history now even if I try to okay let's put it behind us but it's still there so what will happen it's not a clean slate it's not like

meeting a stranger yeah you see let's say these people for example did have a relationship this is why often you see when people do mature the newer relationships that they have are often very different right yeah and this is why and I find here in the UK um this is obviously I'm just throwing this as a kind of figure just to put it but probably we're looking at maybe late 30s Muslim men start to get that kind of emotional maturity if they're getting it maybe by 40 they're getting it the problem is by this time they've obviously got kids and got a family

that's already like like so much damage and yeah uh but now so now it's it's a bit like okay we don't know what to do with the situation but let's say this same man if by this stage was to enter let's say he's in his late 30s now into the relationship he would be very different with this person because now he's got all this experience he thinks well okay that's how I shouldn't do it that's how I you know that okay this is a known okay this was totally dumb of me to behave in this way okay I shouldn't react I shouldn't get angry so easily but the question comes back to well how does this how can we how can people be

learn these things with by mitigating keeping their damage and loss to a minimum and that I I guess is a life thing I don't I don't know how how do we do this like in every point in life it's not only a spouse it's every point in life if you remember like your childhood friends or high school friends or uni friends whatever it is like you have a certain way of perceiving them if you see them 10 years later it's a whole different but you know them in that way and it's not going to leave you and it's the same thing with the spouse is when you live with them you cause damage or they see you in a certain way or you approach things in a certain way they have that judgment about you that even if you change 10 years later they just know that that's that's you see but this

is this would be the problem now so let's let's go with this um just to kind of throw that angle in I'm not saying necessarily agree with it let's just because what we're doing is bringing the complexities so now let's say you are you you seem very young and how old are you if you don't mind me asking they always turn out 27 27. a lot see you could have said 20 we would have said just as dashing all right

but this complexity here now look let's say so 10 years ago okay nine years ago you were 18. now the person you were then to the person you are now is probably you know it's my it's like universe is a part yeah uh because these are like important years you know consequential years but even then let's say how you are now 27 when you'll be 37 you you'll have a very different mindset from from today now the issue is like when you said friends because we could take that complexity now you will have certain friends that

you will be friends with let's say when you were 17 18 and you think oh this is yeah this is a I want to be friends and at 27 you think okay that person's annoying I'm gonna cut that person I'm not going to be interested there yeah the problem so this similar thing is happening with relationships as well but obviously to cut it off here well okay what what does the person do here because here as well people have been annoyed with each other they've grown and maybe they've grown at different speeds maybe they've also grown in different directions so but

there's now kids and so let's say even if there's one kid so let's say 10 15 years later even just one child let's let alone two or three or five or whatever people have uh if they've been in a relationship let's say 10 years or 15 years or they will be oceans you know universes apart almost and but at the same time they will have some understanding of each other as well but they will but now the question might be that a person may think well hmm okay what now because what do you because they are in this kind of quandary that

people feel that I don't know like what what do we do so okay let's say non-muslim scenarios what happens because we can expect we can kind of bring it in from the scenario so in that scenario what would happen is I guess if they feel quite apart um they will just part ways and they would just say you know what let's just amicably you know what we feel that you know it's not this has been like they would feel that you know I'm not oh there's like a low-level kind of almost like a cosmic microwave noise going on in the background you're not

sure we're not arguing with each other but it is kind of become really sometimes there's an awkwardness sometimes there isn't why don't we just go our own way and we'll we've got kids and so what and we'll both take care of the kids and we'll both kind of co-parent and we'll uh do all of this and you find your path and I'll find mine now in many no I'm not saying every single non-muslim but especially in the west it's very normal for that to happen yeah now even if you're gonna look islamically in the past that would also be an option especially in the in the time of the prophet and the sahaba it was very normal for and both people could with ease move on including the

woman so you find in many of the The Seer and the sahaba's lives that as soon as a woman was divorced she often very easily just married again she would just go and okay she's married this person now oh this she's married that person now then it would just be like well okay we're moving on but now the problem okay we gotta throw the reality in and this with many Muslims is a no-go because the men often feel that they're too insecure to divorce a wife the wife often if she is divorced cannot remarry because she thinks well I'm just stuck with you know because I've got kids nobody's going to marry me and what will

my family say if I get divorced now and and the kids are often instrumentalized and weaponized against one another and so it's like a proper you know if I'm just be honest it's like a proper show like we've got like a whole we see I speak to so many people you'll hear their situations these people are being dragged through courts these people are being tracked and I'm not I we don't it's really there I don't know if there are solutions because this is a life it's like a turbia thing it's not a solution thing you know it's like there's there's just well okay what do people do here

um and you just think well I hope they can mitigate the damage that happens along the way because it's like damn okay and now I it is increasing that people are okay starting to part ways but even now let's be honest a woman that is divorced um especially if she has kids uh it's okay it does happen but it's very rare that she will go into a new relationship just like like a man would just um unless the man also has kids and has these very men usually do not just that that's another social thing they don't marry like men will usually think okay I

want to marry someone much younger than me or not much but relatively younger so if a guy let's say reaches his late 30s um he won't think often he won't like let's say for guys 40 you won't think well okay I'll look for a 40 year old he thinks okay I'll look for a woman who's 13. and this is just this is just how it is I'm not saying that's a good way but that's how it is and it's not that women don't know that or men don't know that they might not admit it but that's reality that's what's going on so that's another complexity in there that what happens there because it's wrong to also say well these women that are stuck should be

stuck because they should be stuck you know they should be allowed to and it's wrong to say even the men feeling in that situation should be stuck but then at the same time it's it's a soul image you know what it is it's like I guess it's like the whole thing is like a premature birth it's like so unstable and so volatile the whole thing it's it's like well how do people fix this I don't know how they can fix it it's I think the only answer I've had in my because I've thought about that a lot is because it's just either they get it and they try and work towards or they don't get it and they move on it's really that's what it comes down to and

because there's no as you said there's no one solution to this and yeah it's about the guy and and the gal to try and figure it out like and other than that there's not much you know there's already a Vibe you know and true and a lot of things that people you know you can do things like little tips of maybe moving out trying something fresh you know as in together new house new place you know new furniture and you could do like new new advice Adventures you could do a person could do things but you see but the thing with that is it requires a certain maturity of Minds that's what I'm saying get it if you don't

if if they don't have that maturity of mindset because that takes a very look let's have a commitment because people shouldn't as well just easily give up on a relationship they should just it shouldn't be I I've spoken to people who've contacted me and they've been married for like two weeks just I was about to mention one year but you said two weeks I've spoken to people I've spoken to people for just two weeks and I I I I don't I don't understand like I'll ask them that was this an arranged well like were you kind of pressured to be in this

marriage and they'll say no uh I say well I don't get it like and some of them okay they won't be romantic romantic kind of love love marriage but they'll be marriage is by choice like they'll be like yeah I was told about this guy as in that kind of a range not as in arranged like they weren't relatives they weren't stuff like they were like yeah you know this person was a friend of this person and I said yeah you know I kind of like him I had some conversations we spoke about things and and we got married and no I've realized that and it's literally okay I've I've literally spoken to uh two people where it's just been something like two weeks

three weeks I've spoken to this is like within the last year and I've spoken to several people where it's been within several people it's been within six months several like I mean they've just and and and I always ask that did you not speak to the people before I don't understand like what did you not know the person yeah you know there's also the other side of um like you said thank you sorry that I caught up there yeah you're black you're back give me one minute yep

okay cool yeah so I was saying that um the nominal seems like a lot of them are 10 years the boyfriend girlfriend everything's going great you know they live with each other most the time they're working together suddenly the term husband and wife has been placed on them it's like they can't last a year I don't know what happens you know you know what there is as well though it's interesting because I remember watching this psychology um uh this thing on relationships and it was explaining that sometimes the this this like you I guess you know how this there's a kind of like a biting Point like when I guess when a person's driving between the clutch and just to

get ready they say there's a biting point a kind of tension in a relationship between stability and and a fear of loss that that maintains a healthy appetite for the relationship so so you find often people are together like you said like they're in a relationship and they think yeah you know this is my partner this is my boyfriend this is my girlfriend this is this but in the back of their mind this this there's a little fear that what if he just stopped seeing me or what if he and it's kind of like a

mental carrot and stick and what it does is it it shows that it's like a sweet like attention it's not that in the in these cases that I was watching in this like it was a it was a little kind of info video it wasn't saying that they've got issues in these studies that they saw they're just normal relationships where they're happy whatever they're just normal but there's always this like kind of like like a little fear of what if this happens and and so I guess people slightly try a bit harder both people are trying slightly a bit harder at times for the relationship and they're

normal but then they'll have this and what happens when they marry in those and these were non-muslim studies because they've been together for years when they marry this this layer of complacency that steps in and well it's like oh well I'm married now and it's like well you know now he's not going anywhere yeah so so that so that tension that kind of biting Point disappears yeah and yeah so I I don't it's it's interesting because I don't know how it is we are in a new I think we as a human species especially in the

developed part of the world we are in a new age where because in you just go back a few let's say you go back 50 years the world was very different it dealt with like a pragmatism you know there was just a role people had rolled I'm gonna be this I'm gonna be a wife I'm gonna be a husband I'm gonna be this I'm gonna and whether they were right or wrong what people want to say but they knew their roles and they wouldn't Define it doesn't have to be you know you marry you love your husband you love your wife it doesn't it's not about whether you're in love with them you love them because that's what you're meant to do but now we're in this age where everything's kind of like well there are

no more uh defining points and and it's like well I don't know it's it's an experiment happening right now like we're watching it unfold relationships are like wow this is why they've become big money as well I mean it's a huge you know multi-billion dollar industry because it's the thing of the age isn't it love love love love love and yeah even the Hayden career path obviously I've been trying to choose their ways and yeah and then I get married to a 30 40 now you know so obviously yeah and this is a little bit different and this is the uh and coming to the thing on

polygamy this is where I to me I see all paths have some wisdom in them now but many parts are many of the times abused so it's just like that with anything I mean it's like that with medicine with drugs with you know certain things could be used to anesthetize they could be used as a as an important medicine or as a drug or to reduce pain or to but it could also be used as a street drug or it could be used as it's it's like that and I see this is where I see so I do see a wisdom as well in things like the

concept of polygamy now you may say well polygamy applied in the you know islamosphere as we see it is often just an extension of abuse and it's often just an extension of yeah and I I would agree with you that it is often just like whenever I've come across maybe not every time I think I've come across a few where they have uh you know they've just they've been kind of managing it but mostly where I hear of it I hear of it as like what you're saying that look somebody's just you know they're having rals they're doing all this and he's just like well here's my other kind of

wife and and they just that that and then that just becomes a thing to taunt um yeah and another thing I hear of as well in these cases is that the first wife uh in those cases that are that where people will the husband will not let her leave or to in a certain amount no obviously I mean yeah like they won't let her like they won't they'll say no you have to stay you have to stay and and this this is the thing that they're they have to there there has to be a maturity to what is happening I don't think the mechanism

is necessarily venomous or poisonous I feel that it can because you know in it is true that the society that we are gradually uh and increasingly moving towards is a society with a lot of single families and it is a society where um I think once once people pass a certain stage I don't know like a lot of them don't want to be in these kind of I think they've just had maybe bad experiences in the past or they just you'll get a lot of women as well that they especially let's say they've been through a horrible relationship and

they're divorced and they've got already kids and they want to prioritize their kids they don't want to prioritize another man and they don't want and they want to focus on their life their kids their career their own career they want to oh sorry the kids future their own career they don't and they and they one maybe they're not as trusting of men which is another problem of this age that yeah people are very poisoned towards men um and and some men do play a role in why they think that but that's a problem so they're not maybe very trusting and they're thinking well look I don't want another man but maybe I do want a man I do want companionship but I don't want

this whole a man in my life telling me what to do and stuff and so or even the full responsibilities full-time for example yeah you know yeah they don't want that and is the ones that are actually working and it's going great for them it is in those situations where you know the woman is happy with that and it's all working fine and as I said I don't get me wrong I think it's a beautiful thing honestly the way if it's done like with those examples if I didn't see examples like the ones I know then I would I would say what's the point like but those examples are the ones they're an example for the world how it just runs so well the guy's providing for everyone

it's so equal it's it's I'll tell you something as well that I have because I I have said look there has been a lot of immaturity from men but I tell you something on this note that I've seen a lot and I had uh this Mind Trap with Dr Imran Khan saying the very same thing that there's a lot of immaturity from women when it comes to these relationships that what you find you know polygamy is interesting because you think that you see polygamy the the woman you think okay well okay maybe women don't want to do it or whatever and certain things and that's fine that's that's up to them but it's ironic that several women that like

you mentioned in these cases do want to but the people putting them down are actually women in most of these cases they get we had this whole app discussing this they get a they get kind of shamed and they get this uh women naturally although these women not involved in that Dynamic of the relationship but maybe they feel in their life and insecurity in that maybe if my husband might do this tomorrow so somehow they feel by putting this down somehow I'm preventing you know somehow metaphysically I'm preventing it happening in my own home tomorrow so

they they will women will put women down and usually the biggest obstacle to women is women in in this case it's not actually men uh which is quite surprising uh on that and that's a whole another fact that's right yeah that's a good idea but yeah Omar I appreciate this this is a really it's a really fascinating discussion what do you do if you don't mind me asking um an appliance and air conditioning technician and I'm just on the road now so yeah sure okay now I could see you in the vehicle but it's been really interesting speaking to you sir yeah no I was going to say drop me a message on if you're on Instagram I'll

look out for your profile and um or something I'll contact you yeah some yeah yeah and yeah drop me a message and we'll stay connected it's been it's been good to speak with you very I must say a very mature mind in a very young at a very young stage of your life the wisdom of a 40 year old we're getting a lot less to you man sure anyway all right people people that was Omar from Down Under arrived from Australia very fascinating discussion um

we should get a Minecraft on this we should get some I think it'd be interesting to get some perspectives and yeah because I do think it is a bit of a it is a bit of a um I I don't the problem is we don't have Solutions but we have it's I guess nourish it's like a nourished growth is needed and that's going to just maybe that will just take generations and I don't know I don't know

um let's see what is cat called now what's this question about it I'll take that I'll take that um I have feelings I don't know what these comments they're having some conversation about something as the love increases as the love increases and faces more familiar it gets softer I agree it becomes different generalizing a whole yeah yeah yeah of course no generalizing but just being very

um these are some of the challenges it is interesting I do feel that it's it shouldn't people belittle what you know they see this sometimes as backwards I see it as actually Islam was ahead of its time it just recognized um truths if we want to call them truths of society that would be and this is another thing see somebody said but why can't women here's the question why can't women do open marriages like men are allowed to and

[Laughter] see this is this is a fascinating question because it's one of those things you're not allowed to say because the day and age is becoming but honest like look at if you look at even the scientific data across species don't just pick any species across species female species are monogamous now that doesn't mean that they wouldn't mind it doesn't mean they wouldn't mind you see that often you see women saying oh

no we're polygamous but I I I genuinely still don't believe it I don't believe that women are polygamous that they may be because of the culture or thinking or they may be uh sold the idea that um sure like I wouldn't mind like let's say for example they have a husband and they feel that oh Salman Khan is or Brad Pitt is a handsome actor I wouldn't mind sleeping with him let's say from a fantasy perspective and they're thinking that defines polygamy it doesn't that's not what polygamy is because that's just

a fantasy and that's just the thought of an escapism it's not a realized reality if a woman was to think I would live in relationships with multiple men like living with them women females across species are not designed that way and generally speaking the reason it's not a cross-species is because it would just be a disaster and that's why evolutionarily they've been wired that way and people don't I think the problem is you're not allowed to say it now because people feel oh you know oh that's like

you're telling you're not telling look men male species are wired that way they're programmed it's in the settings it's not now that doesn't mean that they have to all men have to all be polygamous it doesn't have okay they all are polygamous whether they admit it or not but whether they will be um living in polygamous relationships doesn't that that probably isn't the case in many of the relationships it's not like that but they are wired that way so and you would see that and

it's you know the several times I've got into these discussions with people and they'll say well no that's not true women think like that as well you think well well they don't I tell you as a fact they don't I don't maybe you might get the odd some person as an but I'm we can only speak by averages by gen Sorry by generally speaking across the population so for example let's say you take it to adapt certain ad absurdum and this is we often by the because it's by peripheralizing something you can see the boundaries very clearly

so let's say now this may sound absurd but you take it to a fantasy level now let's say a man was to be given this kind of hypothetical option that he was to be submerged in the amidst a hundred women sexually one man to be submerged in that as a hypothesis

to most men heterosexual men that would be and even if they weren't heterosexual and it was running in correlation with their example I think they would still agree with the with the hypothesis but in this example with heterosexual men they would see that as an absolute fantasy um and women would see that if it was the opposite one woman was to be submerged amidst a hundred men most women would see that as utterly bizarrely disgusting and abominable

they would see that as like completely as an utter violation see because you peripheralize the matter and then you can see clear borders and you work backwards in understanding the the kind of the concept so it's not about trying to tell people what they can or cannot it's just defining this is a reality it is whether we it's a reality in nature and the truth is it is a reality we are only a continuity of other species we're not you know humans are still in Helen we are still we are still just

creatures and to assume that we somehow radically defile the laws of nature [Laughter] and instinctual laws of nature nature it's it's a hubris of its own kind but yeah so that's that's interesting I would say now let me see who have I got um

so yeah okay but that's not too see I I say these things to demarcate psychological uh thought experiments but it's not to this is not I'm not I want to be clear I'm not justifying in any way the kind of and I agree with Omar who came on just from Australia now in most examples in Muslim practice are very dishonorable very saddening and are often

entrenched in abuse and that that is wrong that is Haram uh you cannot be abusing people like that you cannot be and misusing a lioness Messenger to to cover up your abuse okay so that's so that's I want to be very clear I don't want people to misunderstand but then as a concept I feel Islam was ahead of its time with having this as a concept so just we can appreciate a concept and we can appreciate it doesn't mean by appreciating the concept every use of it where people have done it is also validated in fact it might not be like a

gun is a fascinating tool incredibly fascinating tool and it has enabled hunting and it's enabled all kinds of things it's a powerful deterrent but yet there's countless Act of murder and brutality that have been conducted with this weapon so it doesn't mean that the concept and the beauty in the concept of the gun that that has been that has materialized and has appeared as a phenomenon as a human invention which is a reflection of pure human genius that that is instantiated in every time

somebody pulls a trigger on a gun in fact in most cases when people pull a trigger on a gun it's probably an abomination and a misuse of that you know masterful Ingenuity of engineering so I think just to be clear on that I don't I don't want people to miss construe my words right um on this topic Mahdi on Minecraft would be fun for myself for the Super Chat you know I a few people have said this now maybe I should reach out to him I don't I don't know anything about him I haven't even watched the discussion I should First Watch the discussion of him

with Delhi Hussein and see how that kills I want to understand it then I should and then sure you know we can we can reach now um people it's Haram it's Haram this is oh damn no wait a minute first of all send the requesting as a as a as a super chat then we're going to give them then we'll say Haram people especially

especially Maestro Maestro is an excellent example of how husbandry can we still call it is it called husbandry now right okay let's get some we've got some guests on here people we've got amine oh my God a four hours been yes Salam let's get ameen on assalamu alaikum it's good to see you again where are you joining us from Texas

all right people we've got I mean see I was trying to figure out also the ethnicity and there you go now I get it okay is it Mexicano or or is it a different origin no no no um I'm uh my my dad's originally uh I'm Chinese Chinese yeah I was thinking Mexican I completely I don't know how many other people thought all right all right all right

you speak Chinese Mandarin yeah I do yeah can you read it no I studied a little bit in undergrad but um just just a few words here and there you really need to get to get a good question I honestly I I you know what as soon as I finalize what I'm these kind of projects if I come to that and get these to a good level I have to start resume my study of Mandarin I think it's it's a it's just a reflection of human genius that you can people can read the script

the way and just they read it how we can it's just like wow if I could ever do that I'd be so proud of myself masha'allah I mean wow so Chinese Muslim yes I think the first time on uh on this show I'm on it I'm on it Allah bless you are you born and raised in Texas in Texas yeah okay I'm a native Texan cowboy boots and all in the and the hat and howdy

all right so somebody just said emotional damage is that where I miss is that where I completely got the ethnicity wrong I do have a Spanish background you know from my mom's side oh right okay is your mom my mom's like European European okay okay have people ever said Mexican to you um no I I get more you don't get the Latino thing ever never been missed out in Texas then I'm way off because if in Texas it's never been said then and

that's next to Mexico then my guessing is completely off yeah I mean like I was in uh I was in Saudi Arabia recently so oh no no I don't mean there I meant in America as the Latino Community ever Miss took you for a Latino I know I don't think so yeah okay wow okay I'm completely completely my my ball bearings must be all wrong so all right so talk to us I mean uh what what precious Lord preoccupy that so um yeah I just wanted to share with you like a experience I had recently so

humble I actually got to um attend the Hajj this year okay wow that's that's awesome because this year for the West especially they they came up with the whole new kind of uh Lottery system to to get in so I don't know if that happened to you as well yeah yeah I did yeah it did but you got chosen oh see see despite the odds people I mean Allah chose him there you go there you are in that how was your experience how was it yeah it was a it was a very it was a very powerful experience I just want to share with you like the back

backstory of how like I came to attend the Hajj so like last year I kind of had a plan to go attend the Hajj I wrote it down in like a to-do list for 2022 I was like let's go for Hajj so and then uh earlier this year like in around I'll say like February time I go like talk to some of the local Mufti like runs a travel agency and stuff and I'm like um uh what what are like the Hajj packages like do you have any openings and he's like no we're booked out since pre like covid you know people have been on waitlist so yeah yeah you're not going to get a spot sauce I was pretty bummed out and then

I was like it's but then he told me he said like but if Allah wants you to go to Hajj you will go to Hajj so I was like just make just like every once in a while just make I love that wow that you know what because that it's a spark isn't it it's a spark yeah yeah it's a powerful thing yeah yeah and then um and then I I learned about like oh they get they're changing the entire system and yeah and then that's how I basically got started and then humble got selected to go attend wow okay well look at that so from the

almost you know the if you're at the bottom of the pile if you like because there's so much of a waiting list you're right since covid era because they blocked off the the first Hajj and then you've got all this you know they've been kind of revamping doing things and so people have been waiting and and then all of a sudden they scrap the system and Allah brings your name to the Forefront see this is it sometimes you know a simple Dua even I mean because what is it you know in

Arabic what is a Dua like they say it's just a call that way the heart just calls out to God just calls out on its own doesn't have to be doing this or doing on its own uncontrollably it it improvisingly just it's on its own it just it just calls out that yeah yeah like this and then things happen when you think about it well I I was listening to this

um that this uh reminder which I listened to sometimes to just help me they just bring me in a Zone and and I and the reminder was saying this and and and the interesting thing is I've heard it I've heard it a number of occasions but a while back but there was a point where I was uh with someone and we were just talking and they were talking about things and and I thought oh you know I could do with something like that and I thought well oh maybe you know this is just I don't know how this will sound and I thought to myself oh maybe I should just ask that you know what if oh

I could do with something like this and you know how whatever it was and and yeah like but I thought oh but I can't ask the person and you know there's this side of me and and in that moment it came the thought came to me that look what do you mean ask person like ask like you can't ask Allah foreign we because this thing this reminder as well that I've heard and watched is where this person was saying in that he said that looks so often we we ask people and there's nothing wrong

it is a world of means I get it it could be something as simple as hey I need a lift or I need this could I borrow that or could I do this or could I do that it is you know it is everything is a suburb it is a cause a means But ultimately Allah is the one who creates the call he's the first he he causes the causes so in a way like sure I get it there's nothing wrong if people taking means adopting means asking people doing things but yeah what if we just ask Allah

just on our like let's just see like as a you know you're so powerful when I heard it it hit me I thought that wow and and then I remembered it on that occasion I just remembered that oh I was thinking I thought God I should ask you know what what's this and and things unfold man like look here's this is this thing of Hajj like you wanted to do it in your way this is nothing from a first person's perspective that is the unfolding truly of a miracle like check this out

you it is categorically categorically from a from from a worldly perspective impossible given the backlog given the bureaucracy given the kind of diplomatic structure of how uh visas operate and given your kind of taxider to Hajj and given these things work the administrative processes for you coming where you come in that position it was impossible for you to really do Hajj but you ask from your your story a mean story right you

last year thought in your heart yeah I would love to to Hajj and and this and this seed started to Blossom and and you thought yeah I would really love to do Hajj unbeknownst to you the the procedure was so insurmountable that it was literally a physical impossibility for it to happen but this crying out this determination this this wish in your heart from your perspective Allah did away with the entire system

and brought about a system we're now through the means available your name came first from your perspective it is no short nothing short of a miracle sure from another person's perspective it could just be luck oh this person just got lucky yo it was just but from your story Allah this is It's if this is how these are Miracles unfolding around us but wow I'm really glad you shared that with us yeah absolutely I mean like so I was like they did this right before the heart started like about three weeks

they introduced the lottery system so it was quite tight in terms of the planning um so like I was trying to like scour resources to to plan for the Hajj I looked at your you know your channel and things like that the only thing I found was should we boycott Dodge you know what I I should do something about the Hajj you're right I should do certain other videos you know what that's actually a good reminder I will try to I will I will do some stuff inshallah because you're right because now that you say I don't think I've got much material on the Hajj

um on the should we boycott Hajj I say no but yeah uh I say no we shouldn't boycott but you're right I don't really have much um you know also maybe there's a synchronicity of Events maybe you are you know the you are I'm not you are maybe you are an embodiment of a reminder that because I have found myself on a path as well of of this meaning of trying to find deeper meanings and of this of trying to understand or or in my life to allow spirituality to allow this kind

of the this this deeper Consciousness I've I've I find myself on this path now and Hajj is an incredibly profound experience like that and it it's life transforming for many people maybe not for others but it is for many people and I feel that yeah so maybe the timing maybe before if I did something it wouldn't have been right because maybe I wasn't on that frequency so yeah so shukra and I appreciate the reminder and I will I will inshallah let's do that let's do something

you take care and we'll speak soon stay in touch and drop me a message right people that was amine from Texas uh I completely botched up guessing his ethnicity so I wonder if people watching this assume the same I guess maybe I was partially primed because uh just trying to justify allow me allow me this indiscretion because it began by him saying well Tejas which is the Espanol way of saying it's Spanish way of saying Texas which

borders Mexico and for some reason I could see I assumed he I wonder if anybody else watching that thought oh yeah clearly he has uh Mexican um oh damn I just pressed the wrong button there for something um I don't know like some kind of like an uh Affinity in his appearance anyway let's move on to uh

let's move on and yes I'm really glad he shared um his story on the Hajj it was really really these things are inspiring and that is how I see this whole understanding of things like uh understand of God's help also miracles right who have I got here I've got uh right we've also got Mark I'll add Mark then so Waleed assalamu alaikum

all right how are you joining us from I'm good I'm joining you from UAE uh I love which one of the the holy UAE I just I was just speaking to I had a guest uh ustad Khalid here I met him earlier this week from here's from yeah so yeah yeah is it right yeah I'm close by I'm in Ajman yeah right okay yeah I have but I've only been once and I was just telling him that I've got now a

bunch of contacts and friends in the UAE in different imarat and I need to go again um just oh yeah just let us know when you when you plan to all right what's on your on your thoughts well uh there have been a lot of things on my thoughts uh one thing I wanted to talk to you about was um the issue of parents parents so yeah parents like like you were saying earlier that

um parents traditionally like they're especially from the subcontinent area they're very controlling over their kids and they expect a lot from them and this usually hinder is their ability to seek knowledge or like pursue their own goals um so I was wondering like to what extent are we obliged um to put up with that you know like uh we will have our own aspirations we want to like for example uh be a if someone wants to be a scholar nowadays um someone in these conditions it's almost impossible to do that

because it requires a lot of time and effort and patience you know what's something just reminded me somebody just sent a message there saying about saying about Salah and just remind can you give me two minutes just two minutes right here I'm just gonna take you off and I'll put you back on the lead so one second um right so people just give me one second I'll be right

all right Blood Hill so eyes Back Eyes back let me just add the lead Walid off on off one right yeah uh right yeah no you're absolutely right um um parental pressure yeah your ethnicity are you uh are you also did you see from India yeah are you okay okay well I was I almost thought Arab for a moment I was trying to see I'm hitting everybody's ethnicities although

because I was born and raised here in UA ESO maybe that's why and and you don't have much touch with my Arabic yeah the Arabic accent is clearly very strong obviously coming right through and and then yeah I'm getting everybody's uh ethnicities wrong today okay it happens right so you're right I think they see parents especially are can be exceptionally tough I think Muslim parents in general um are usually

somewhat are quite tough parents and this is can be slightly extra they can have like some more layers of that uh and so when it comes to so your question was that how do we reconcile that with what we want to do exactly yeah yeah how can we yeah yeah reconcile between having to pursue our own goals like seeking knowledge and also at the same time not um be negligent of their duties uh right okay so if you want

to seek knowledge as by that you mean to go away and study for several years and and they in this example in this scenario are not happy with that that's what is that what we're going with that scenario yes yeah sure right now that makes sense um you see look right okay this is a really interesting question it's really delicate one as well because we know the makam of parents one in Islam and in the Muslim Community the the concept of parents and then

Disobedience to parents is deemed as a blasphemy you know sacrilege and and in a way that that's a I I think that's a wonderful concept and it should be enshrined however what does Disobedience mean is the so here there is a difference between what we're talking about the the kind of the regional monat and the tachical of of where we're saying well okay Disobedience to parents I do I I think it's it's a great thing in Islam that this is this is a great taboo and

it's a sacrilege to do something like that and it's enshrined in Islam and it reminds you now the question is what constitutes Disobedience to parents so yeah when we apply this in the in real life what does that mean so disobedient to parents or obedience it's opposite you know the converse or the inverse is well obeying your parents does not mean that you if you as in it robs you of your free will what it means first of all as a child sure and it may vary as a child and as

an adult okay so there is an understanding that naturally as a child you are more you you are obviously subordinate to the rules of of the home so that makes sense so for example that's um like okay you can't play outside now you no you can't ride the bike no you can't do now these things obviously you're you're a child and so that's regardless of religion learning about the world yeah so you're still learning but as you become an adult now you honoring your parents is what the obedience means is the respect you

give them which is from your heart but also uh it's also manifested in how you interact like you speak respectfully to them it would mean that let's say you offer them assistance where needed in certain things where you can do it like let's say whether that's financial assistance they need in something or whether it's uh things whether it's physical assistance maybe they need help with something you can help them maybe you can arrange things for them let's say whatever is that kind of Common Sense without narrowing it but that common sense being there for them if when they need it now this doesn't mean maybe you can't always be there for them

but in your way whatever the means are you can let's say you try to help them because oftentimes they go usually they go overboard with that yeah this will always be yes exactly that's a good point actually in fact let's caveat that so when it says being there for them within reason okay so this doesn't mean so you always be there because then you would not have a life anymore exactly it doesn't because your parents would say you should live here now when you say no to I I'm not going to live there that's technically

disobeying your parents this does not fall under Disobedience to parents because you are your own person you must decide all matters to do with your life yourself sure you can take their input but you are not obligated to listen to them and this is where you get the famous Masala as well that you know if a parent says to his his child who's not a child who's an adult that divorce your wife must he obey and know he must not obey and this I think it's uh

has a whole resale on that that you see and quoting from all the four methods that it's not you don't uh sure if you were going to divorce her anyway or you were going to do that that's that's your obviously choice but it's not by the obligation you're not obligated by the mandating they don't have a right to mandate it and if they claim to mandate it it's it's uh it's irrelevant it does not become a mandate for you to divorce because this does happen in a lot of especially they see communities you'll get the parents who say divorce your wife you know she's no good no good so-and-so doesn't cook me

Roti properly Roti isn't perfectly round 360 Degrees you know only Leonardo da Vinci could could draw with his bill but this is how uh you know the the so obedience Disobedience to the parents first of all it's nothing to do with your life to be clear this isn't doesn't fall under that remit at all so all your choices in life are irrelevant they that this does not uh this is not impacted by obedience disobedience so for example if you want to become a doctor you want to go to university if you want

to apply for this job if you want to get married to that person if you want to go buy this car if you want to buy go buy that suit if you want whatever you're doing if it's your capacity and your parents said don't do it or they said do this one instead that is not in a religious uh imperative that's just them being your parents you can choose to listen you can choose to not listen it is so anything to do with your life there is no religious imperative on it you are only responsible for your own life and how you live it so that is just to us the way it speaks to us is like it's uh if

even if you disobey them in these things in these matters it's like it's a major sense that is a huge mistake because whereas what it is is you where you listen to them okay so where are we where does this apply that you listen to um so first of all in the Quran it doesn't address it generally um as obedience a star IT addresses it as um so you be kind to and compassionate to because it's not about that is more

about in the Quran about and Allah and is rasool you obey but obedience The Narrative with parents in the Quran is about essan I that you have this kindness to them and compassion uh and even if it and it says and you know don't be rude to them be kind to them spend on them give them money give them care so where is this this is about them so it's not about your life it's about them and it's more about your interaction

with them so your interaction even if you get angry because look as you grow old and even when you're young you're impatient but as you grow old as well maybe sometimes people you know maybe their parents can nag them and hug them and a person could oh but you must contain it okay don't like don't explode at them don't ever ever like you know let alone you know person did it in childhood God forbid at a stage now where you are more powerful let's say stronger than them and you are this that you should ever

explode in their face like in in that kind of like with anger and tell them to God forbid like this this would be like an absolute abomination in the sight of God that you you because these were your the parents that gave birth to you now true many parents as well especially this is the turbia is not one of Kamara bayani as it's mentioned in the Quran at the train it's more like a they take you drag you through jahannam and then alhamdulillah look whatever they did they did

that's the main point and you you got to this step now it's not about holding grudges and it's not about uh you know you you need to Now understand that what it's people did what they did with the best ability they had maybe they did a poor job maybe they did at least Allah has given you the reason to be able to see through it and understand it so you be kind you be compassionate you help them however you can within reason now when you help them and you assist them this will be within reason so by reason I mean like Common Sense what people will Define obviously otherwise there's always like you said there's always something else you can

help with as well like you say well and help me go get that cup and go get that plate and now sit here and fix this and go and paint that room and go and do well you'll be like yeah this this is not what is meant by that it means within reason true you should now as an adult you should be an independent separate entity but they they let they do their own things you do your thing but you can if you can assist you assist with things if you can't do try to be kind when you can always you know when in your

interactions do this is where that is or even if you're going to say da is to do it is nothing otherwise it's not it's like if your parents said to you do a handstand and if you don't do the handstand then you're somehow doing a Haram or they say stand on one leg stay standing on that leg no you don't need to stand on one leg it's not you see Islam is not irrational like that it's not saying it's speaking within Common Sense structures that you be kind to your parents and this is why it's better to use we often in our culture will use

obedience as the popular term you know foreign and this then changes the narrative a bit because parents then think oh I have every right I told you not to marry that person you disobeyed me by listening you know this this is not you if you're an adult if Allah gives you the right to to choose who you want to marry or choose where you want to go another person doesn't have the right to tell sure they can give you their opinion say look my opinion is you shouldn't do this Tiga it's your choice it's your mistake to make you know sometimes you have to make a mistake it's your mistake to me yeah

right so we learn English so with that setting I would say I just realized this stopped as well um but I would say that if you're pit let me just bring this up so when it comes to right I just gotta switch this on here it is connect right so if you wanted to study Islam and your parents said you can't study Islam then yes you can study Islam you don't need uh your parents um you don't need the permission to be

able to study Islam you don't need their permission to uh become a doctor you don't need their permission to go to university to go to I tried like uh going through like the history of the great imams of before and I never see this as an issue like them yeah it's not sure you know people will say that oh uh there are a Hadith where a person you know there are different varying Transmissions sometimes to do in Hajj sometimes to do with Jihad Visa uh

actual battles where people were told have you not got a parent at home go serve them but these are different issues because because look first of all these things are very dangerous in the sense that you see your let's say let's run with this Jihad example ignoring for a moment whether the chain is authentic or not but let's just take it as a given as if it is you see you there are not this is not something for you if you let's say you take this example that there was uh this hypothesis that

the prophet salallahu called for a Jihad now all the jihads in the prophet's lifetime were because armies had mobilized and they had moved to a certain point and the Muslims went there because they were otherwise there would have been an attack now support is needed for the cause so people went with the profit now let's take this hypothesis once again whether the incident's true or not but let's take it as if it is so if a person went to the Prophet this person and said look I'll come and the prophet said do you not have an elderly parent at home said yeah and said why do you that's your Jihad you know that's your thing and in another I know another narration

as well it's about Hajj that's your Hajj because the issue is that look these things took first of all let's take their Jihad one it was not something for you you were just offering us support to A A Cause which was the which was Islam so it wasn't a personal thing for you it wasn't you weren't going to this wasn't about you this was about some people needed help and therefore and not just some people the Muslims and here it's not just Muslims it's the prophet so it's his cause

see you come and and same thing it could be with something else let's say you bring it down to our day and age let's say there's a um a deployment let's say there's a a charitable effort or there's a uh a different opportunity going on that is it's always that person's call if it's not about you obviously something could be about you let's say you're going on business you're going to make some money this is about you you going on this project it's about the project it's not about you don't come back with anything I'm sure maybe you get paid for going but like some if they win maybe they give you something but

it's not about you so it's that person's call and it's just it's the right call to say well wait a minute we don't want people with us who have dependents at home because you could get killed here what are they supposed to do especially in that volatile time of the profit so who's supposed to take care of them they didn't have a welfare state they didn't have this kind of care structure so the care workers so the question is look you are the child the son who is taking care don't worry about the battlefield thing people we've got people doing that so in this narration that people promote

it makes absolute sense this is the right thing look you have got a greater project you're taking care of your elderly parent who nobody can take care of and even the Hajj scenario back then the Hajj scenario was about the two key things about Azad it was a struggle you know people had to because if you don't have the camel and you don't have the thing don't even go on Hajj and people would set out the months of Hajj why because it would take months sometimes people would go it doesn't had to it didn't have to take months but it could take weeks and it

was a struggle you had to go through deserts and you and there was always some risk of certain things and maybe you'd come back okay but in the meantime how are your family doing and you say well that's okay they've got people but what if they haven't got any people and they're just elderly people so your Hajj is taking and then your parents take care of them you don't need to be doing the wife around it's okay you do it another time in life you've got a lifetime to do that they're elderly if you leave for a month let's say easily leave for a month back then if you're going unhide a whole month who's going to take care of this

so this is very different to uh it is very different to saying um your parents because people use these examples they say things like you're right they will say things like look um oh you know people saying the profit of the person who couldn't meet the prophet because it was at the service of his mother or something got his name sure uh is that about a wastel Kearney yeah yeah okay sure like it may be that that was let's go with it that it's true okay

let's go with it that is true because serves as a great um a great um a figure of virtue and a source to Aspire to um in in the Islamic tradition Islamic Legacy although depends which lens and which hat you want to wear because from the academic perspective I don't I don't know if you're aware of this Imam Malik said there wasn't that no such person ever existed as a wastel Academy he said that there was this person was a myth and so Imam Alex is that he people made them up there was

no such man called away but nevertheless let's go with that's an academic discussion but from a devotional perspective sure he is definitely there and his stories bring uh you know a lot of value and love to Islam so even if you take this example now let's let's go with this as a given as the hypothesis here is a person who is in the servitude of his mother now in this story because because nobody else is there to take care of her and in this story if I recall correctly I believe he he doesn't like his father

has passed away so he has a mother and he has nobody to take care of her in a society that is a dangerous Society a raiding Society the Arab house with all the Hostile tribes and and hostility and you have the greatest thing on earth for a Muslim is an encounter with the prophet sallallahu and he sacrifices that in servitude to his mom like that is so just profoundly beautiful as a concept of saying the makam of a

mother in line with the Hadith sorry that Jannah has been placed beneath the feet of the mothers so as in served them so this this this narrative look most like this narrative if from a historical perspective like we said what Iman Malik or even if he did exist this probably isn't the the but from its lesson devotional perspective we can take this lesson it evokes in us this love towards towards mothers it makes you think yeah look that's the true

makam of parents and what are we doing you know these things are amazing reminders to make us feel more gratitude but that's what they should just be it's not people use them as a motivation yes so they should be there to as a correctional device so when we hear them we realize yeah you know like I I I'm really ungrateful I should be more grateful I should be more they they they serve as these things that make us do more good okay but yeah so shukran I appreciate that I think that's an epic uh discussion or lead I've just realized

we're almost coming up to five hours I need to wrap this up really I don't know how you do it for so long before I leave I just wanted to uh thank you for uh I was watching one of your old Monday nights uh just going through the old ones and uh and one of them you mentioned the doctor and really he is one of the greatest gems I've ever found

um caught up with that but I've seen some of his other things I he isn't he is a an absolute a mandatory gem for our age I do wish I could get him on uh Mind Trap um you should I feel I think it's just been too busy I maybe if people do watch this who are connected with him if you reach out to him and let him know I had tried in the past but he was too busy but um it would be wonderful to just have a conversation with him where people could benefit from that conversation yeah I was hoping like a

future could have a conversation that would look really amazing it would be it would be really beneficial may Allah bless him I mean right well Walid shukran for that and I'll thank you drop me a message on Instagram and I will uh look out for your page as well okay people will lead from the UAE from argument all right discussing issues about Desi parental interactions which is a whole uh Topic in itself

I've been trying to um right I know there's some spam going on what's this um did you see kanet tells me the documentary on Islam and woman Cana tus tusliman Minecraft very interesting character I I've never heard of Cana tasselman but that's what now that you say somebody mentioned this him his name I read his name in a comment previously on one of my YouTube videos so yeah I

would you know what uh Haka if you can if you're in touch with him and you can set it up what to do is reach out to me on Instagram drop me a message and let's uh let's see I'll also meanwhile check out who he is uh Faisal shukran much love for the Super Chat we've got uh a mark I'll add Mark and then let's wrap this up Mark how are you doing man

it's just I I was wrapping this up but I thought I've almost done five hours but I saw marks it in there I thought yeah it's um first of all for you know all the time you're giving tonight I feel real bad now because is

it's an honor to I feel that energy coming right through the the screen it's amazing you know I think we underestimate even like we think certain things are virtual but somehow we still share a I don't whether it's a vibration frequency and energy or whatever it is however it is we still do it a lot of on a side note uh if people check Dr Rupert sheldrake's studies on what is PSI CSI which is uh inexplicable causality in Psychology where there isn't a direct link and this

and he's done many studies on being able to feel when you're being able knowing when you're being watched yeah so we can tell usually when somebody's looking at us but they found the studies to be equally true above probability when somebody was watching through a screen watching someone they could still feel eyes on them like so let's say um whether somebody was being watched through a camera um and they they were somewhere else so there wasn't actually any spatial even

if you were in a headquarters watching security seeing a lot of CCTV from a different place as a security team people could sometimes tell they would they could tell above probability they were being watched but yeah coming back to sorry I digress yeah no this is part of my this is part of the problem I digress too often so and that's why I'm worried because the the topic was kind of philosophical so I didn't know if it was going to go to a rabbit hole and but subhanallah I'll try to get to hit the track rolling we we uh generally we live for the rabbit holes who

else will be talking about this stuff for this ungodly hour so basically um what I wanted to talk about is um right now especially in the west there's kind of been a rise of uh Christian nationalism and especially it's kind of like over really hit its boiling point with overturning a Rover Suede and kind of like this impression of uh religion kind of posing on people so it's kind of reflaming these um conversations between antitheists and theists and um because that that kind of argument it kind of

died down for a little bit because it is kind of played out because you know anti-theists don't like really kind of engaging with these because it's about the metaphysical and it's hard to kind of like argue about the metaphysical where you're kind of like pulling things that we don't have any way to observe so kind of doesn't really serve a point but um I came across a debate recently of an anti-theist and a theist and it was it went pretty bad for the theist as far as yeah as far as trying to articulate because it seemed like the the anti-theist was really pinning

him on the point of of God or more morality being independent of God and uh because he was this guy was actually coming from a a Pagan religion trying to argue with it from that kind of aspect so his his religion had more kind of obvious holes in it and stuff that you could easily point out and say like yeah Thunder's not from Zeus being mad at you or these type of things um so it was easier kind of like to deconstruct because and he was trying to combat that when I think he was trying to do is the the trajectory hermeneutics which I was which you've talked about in the past and kind of really appeals to

me as far as like kind of addressing uh modern issues but what I wanted to ask you is um and you know since he wasn't really able to defend the theistic position as small as I said probably you can um through trajectory hermeneutics would that if you were to follow that and I guess like even chicks like uh Sheikh Abdullah babaya and others who kind of like say we needed to update the hadoot and stuff um does that put you in the camp of believe in that morality exists uh without God right so I so how so here's how we'd

frame this it's not about people who believe in God would not say that it exists independent of God in the sense that nothing can exist in sheer independence of God because people who believe in God believe that God brought about everything so whether he set about certain um certain forces into play for things to to manifest and come about and set things into motion but things only exist

by God so so so nothing would be so in that sense just to begin the the statement would be a misplaced statement to say yeah I wouldn't mean to frame it that way yeah I wouldn't mean to frame it that way because it's like for my pers yeah no I can't I get it I can't exist without God being able to so I get I guess but from their perspective I was just I was just correcting it because it's I felt it's an important one to you know it's uh all right let's just start tapped this so I felt it's an important thing to clarify secondly now has

the question that is being posed here is uh just to be clear is is morality um learned through scripture or is it something that yeah like innately no yeah the way I said it yeah the way I was saying is kind of the way that they would frame it but I guess that we would the basic question would be going back to that is something good because God likes it or is it something's good right so this is called the Divine commandment theory in philosophy and in Islam we just like in many in many philosophical traditions there's

a disagreement amongst the usulin so certain Scholars felt amongst them Imam of hanifa as well that look there is already what they they framed it in the old usually debate as atasin so do we see certain things as good and do we see certain things as bad and then has Islam come and codified that for us or did it tell us don't do this therefore we just declare it bad otherwise there is no good and bad in this world so the Muslim scholarship

disagreed on this from the very get-go as soon as this became a debate in the very early time like within a century after the prophet uh just over a century after the Prophet this is how Scholars were divided what I would uh where I find myself on this debate is yes of course I agree with these people that um that human beings and it's not just human beings uh but let's beginning our discussion with human beings that we have some innate sense of right and wrong

that we already have this so the way I um this is me personally would frame it is that we have a morality kind of instinct or a morality Compass it's as as it were akin to the language instinct so we have this Universal grammar that is embedded in us when it comes to language but what language we learn and how we learn it is shaped by the environment that we find ourselves in so if you were born in China you would speak Chinese if you're born in America you speak English now it's not that it's

not to do with your your your kind of uh it's it's your you are hardwired to pick up language wherever you are so this is why people who are uh even those people who'd have been born deaf dumb dumb and blind in the sense they're completely cut off from the world in picking up those Sensations or language in any whether it's visually auditorily or through speech yet when they do learn how to express themselves they fully pick up language

uh Helen Keller a brilliant author was born deaf dumb and blind and so and she authored magnificent books so the thing is that language it's it's within us regardless of which one you end up picking up so now and all languages will have some Crossovers and similarities and language with the day and age will also change so similarly now you shifted over morality we have this kind of a base a compass if you like a base structure which is hardwired in our brain then what happens is we like so we have

the ability and this is with animals too uh obviously varies where you go in the scale whether it's going to be primates right down through mammals or going to others obviously at reptile level you wouldn't really find it at all in that way but you will find it with mammals and definitely in primates that you find you see would they identify hurt like we can so this is coming back to us two key things we recognize pain through empathy and and through empathy we want we have this feat because of our feeling of

empathy so we understand pain in ourselves and through empathy we can see in others and we want to avert it like prevent it or mitigated so this is a very base level to start from being able to identify pain and being able to or be through empathy you want to avert it for the other because somebody said why do you want to avert it for the other because when you see them in pain our ability to empathize makes us feel pain because humans and even monkeys they have this thing in our brain which is

actually called monkey see monkey do you know the monkey see monkey do feature like we mirror things even a baby they they so newborn babies as well or relatively newborn they'll do things like they'll make faces at them or they'll stick their tongue out and the baby will stick the tongue out so they mirror what they're seeing and it's just called the monkey do monkey see monkey do brain because you mirror this now part of us I'm not saying the same side but that's just to give you an idea that because of our ability to empathize whether we like it or not we when we see pain we feel

pain so it also hurts us that the other person is hurting so we want to avert it we want to prevent it because in a way we want to prevent ourselves from being hurt by watching them being heard so this very simple building block Foundation is enough to build morality because it will then grow and so what happens is so we have very Basic Instincts with us and we through societal constructs we kind of interject other understandings now I also do feel that there is a collective Consciousness

which does result in an ongoing gradual tiny maybe it's minuscule biofeedback of uh or an ethical kind of like a feedback between our Consciousness and the collective Consciousness through our lives and this is why whole and this happens with the Zeitgeist it's like that at a society level at a civilizational level so hence you see right now let's say for example let's in in the west it will be generally people will identify racism as wrong they will see it as and I'm not saying it doesn't

exist but people for the most part will feel in their gut that this is a wrong and bad thing whereas let's say you went back 30 years 40 years they weren't it wasn't necessarily evident like sure maybe they thought okay maybe some people thought okay you shouldn't do it but it wasn't that evident to them and now it's very evident like they feel it in their gut that this is actually no this is a bad thing and that's I would say that the Zeitgeist has changed the collective kind of conscious feedback they've that the consciousness of people has evolved the if the ethics has has kind of digested that

and so yeah so that's how I I kind of loose structure of how I see things so coming back to scripture does not scripture works on the assumption that we already understand what right we already have an understanding of morality so when the Quran tells you that look Islam has come to forbid you from uh from bad things uh disgusting things it's come to tell you that they are Haram it's using that because it understands that the Arabs understand disgusting things otherwise it wouldn't make any sense because if you didn't understand what

disgusting is and I say well this is big so when the Quran says don't do this this is this is a disgusting thing obscene thing it's going by the assumption that human beings understand what disgusting means so so the Quran has come to it's not so to me sure some people might take the other philosophical tradition in saying human beings have no understanding of right and wrong we only pick it up because the Quran so for example if I'd never been told in Islam to murder is wrong I would never have known to murder a song some people can hold that I don't hold

that most many Muslims Imam or any other people didn't hold that for you they said that look human beings already knew this but the Quran came to on certain things it didn't come for so the rules of akam in the Quran are very few some said they were between you know 130 or something to about 500 that's it out of 6 600 verses or 6200 verses sorry right so that's a very small percentage or about akam it's not that the Arabs didn't know murdering was wrong but it's just that they were justifying it by certain means they were saying look we know it's wrong but here it's okay

because of this tribal reason so the Quran came to say look stop justifying it with your silly means okay murder is murder you know whoever kills one person is has always killed the whole of mankind in the eyes of God so these were the things it's not that the Arabs didn't know stealing was wrong every All Humans know stealing is wrong because they know it doesn't belong to you so you're taking something that doesn't belong to you so Islam in that sense the the morality has not changed it's not that the morality has changed people are simply asking do the punishments change

so that's a separate question so for example if the punishment for doing something to a slave was this or if the punishment was if some Nation committed war against you you could now turn them into slaves this was the punishment but the day and age has changed and today nobody accepts slavery so today this would not be the punishment that you can turn them into slaves and Islam would mandate that you live in the day and age this is how obviously all these ulama from the especially the

Maliki mother and other methods that see trajectory hermeneutics and makassid would rule this maybe there there are maybe Muslims that would say no maybe even today you can do slavery then and I would obviously disagree with them but maybe there are people I think did did what's his name did Dr Jonathan Brown say things like that I think in a discussion he I don't know maybe I uh but there's been certain people who've said well or I think Daniel hakikachu definitely did argue that sure slavery today is wrong and if I misconstrue this then I apologize but from what I recall that they argued that sure we see as

wrong but what if the DNA changed to where it's okay then in Islam it's okay to do it and so and I obviously would I would not agree with that view I would agree that once it's Humanity has changed and does not see that as a punishment then it's not a Islam would also agree because Islam is here the Islam did not come about slavery it's not about slavery this was just it just it was already in existence before Islam came Islam just said well it was already there so it just gave some rules about it and it people did used to do that when they went to war they would enslave the other people if

they lost the war and so that was not just Muslims that was all figment of these of humans societies throughout the globe so Islam was also a part of them so it just played it just did the same thing now when Humanity changed and even before as the Zeitgeist started to change so I don't just mean the United Nations I mean the Zeitgeist started to change the collective Consciousness

from Timbuktu the great Maliki scholar from the uh I believe the 18th century in the sorry in the yeah in the 1800s he gave the fatwa in the 1800s that slavery was Haram Ibrahim Ibrahim who was a scholar from zetuna gave the fatwa way before the United Nations gave the fatwa that slavery was Haram so these and these were these were both Maliki examples I gave so that's because this is before the United Nations said it I'm not saying maybe other people

were saying it but I'm just giving the examples that it's a collective Zeitgeist that has started to change and people have recognized that look human beings should not be doing this and they start to change so with it does the uh does the Sharia also if the if the cause has removed has has disappeared does the ruling adapt so these Scholars say yes it does and they went with that and I'm sure there are other Scholars that may argue no that we always keep those rulings and that's their view sure I yeah I can I complete yeah I think I completely agree with kind of your way

of understanding and um uh approaching that because yeah if we if in the in the the anti-theist and the debate brought up the Cain and Abel thing it's like well if you're saying that you know Cain murder Abel then we wouldn't know that murder's bad it didn't make any sense so he really didn't know how to get it I mean those yeah I think people was really it was really easy to deconstruct so yeah I definitely agree what you're saying I I would say and that understand it because it I don't see any way for because then just to become stagnant if that doesn't become objective because look I would say people if you're not of the school of the voice of reason

if you're not of this school you should ideally I would just advise that don't debate because don't debate with now don't debate with other religions or atheists because it just won't work out well because you see the voice of reason is a methodology that they are applying so if you're not applying it and you don't believe it um like let's say for some reason you don't believe that this is something I adhere to or I'm not mad I'm not bound by it like I don't bind myself to the voice of reason then in that case you will most likely do a very poor job just

because of your own just because of the constraints even if you're a very intelligent person you won't be it because that game is a game of the voice of reason it's like saying look you could be a great cricketer but if you're playing football then it's not Cricket so if you say look I'm you know I don't play football I'm not I'm never trained in football then then you just play what you play because if you go to debating debating is built on philosophical reasoning and the ability to use the voice of reason to overpower the other person's argument if you don't abide by the voice of reason compellingly then you will

for the most part do very poorly in that game if we can call it a game so I would advise people not to engage in that if unless they are people who adhere to commit themselves to the voice of reason then they can they definitely can can show compelling arguments and overcome the other uh thing right um and uh and just to kind of just to kind of wrap it up and just kind of tie it to so since I'm on the same page as what you're saying and then I find that you know completely convincing the last question is if you're tying that in and kind of like people's Consciousness

change and Society changes and we understand that the hadou the Hadoop you know at a certain point if we implement it might have a net negative on society uh then you know that's why they decide doing changing it does that start to kind of seep into other aspects of like chronic morality like for example um like like how the Quran sets up the concept of nikah and marriage like if Society seems to be moving in a separate direction that has better maybe results like you know mental health-wise economic wise the whole the whole reasoning of having a relationship that

seems that outpace kind of like the Islamic way does that mean how does that is that kind of is that the same thing yeah so I don't feel Islam highlights sets out any of these things I don't feel Islam in fact not just I don't feel the Islamic literature clearly shows that the uh so for example in sahil bukhari I believe it's in bukhari the Hadith of Aisha uh but this this is Hadith of Aisha where she's explaining how Nikas were from jahilia time so she says in jahilia there were four types of nikah three have been canceled and one

remained in Islam so now whether the Hadith is weak or not but you have several books describing all the knickers before Islam Islam did not introduce the concept of Nica it did not even introduce the how to do Nika the Quran never taught you how to do Nika the prophet did not in fact we have no report of a description of the Prophet not even one we don't have how no we don't have that so because why because the people no because the people knew how to do Nica it's like the prophet did not teach people for example how to eat dates they

knew how to eat dates they knew it's like if if it's akin to me saying okay so imagine I've come here to teach you something so spectacular and I say okay well let's start off with how do we eat cereal and how do you pour conflicts into a bowl so what's this Got to Do With It people know how to do these things now I'm not trying to trivialize the concept of Nica where people the concept of Nica is a marriage then you've got the the concept of marriage existed way before Islam did not introduce the concept of

marriage it just simply said oh in the in the parameters of marriage some people are committing abuse by doing this this so we'll just curtail that it did not introduce anything everything within the Arabs were doing prior to Islam the only thing was the things that were abusive Islam just said okay don't do them that's all so it did not introduce Nica it did not introduce the luck it did not introduce these topics these topics were not new to the Arabs they knew they all they were already married so

people who convert to Islam let's say a couple convert to Islam a whole tribe converts to Islam they were never asked to get married again never in fact this is a well-known discussion within the books of sharia that when people Embrace Islam as a couple their marriage stands you do not you do not ask them to renew the indica so this is why all the tribes of that entered Islam the prophet never said to people renew your your marriage he never went like let's say a worker became a Muslim he never said to him go home and renew your Nikita that never happened when in fact the apostates

the battles of Ritter when many of bani hanifa and these people re-embrace Islam and kind of had a compromise they were never asked to renew their Nika this was never in fact this is a known thing within Islam that uh when people it's in all it's an old uh intermediate and advanced level books of fig that when a couple Embrace Islam they Nika stands we do not ask them to renew the Indica it's a different discussion they say if one embraced Islam that's a different discussion but and the other rejected Islam we're talking about if they both Embrace Islam they

never ask to renew their this is not because it's not something Islam introduced it's just a human thing that humans have been doing Islam just said stop these elements about it that's all so it's so I would say that that question is is it's not it's like I I would problematize the the kind of premise in saying well Islam never introduced any of these things they never introduced marriage they never introduced divorce people were getting married from before Islam the prophet's parents were married who how did they get married they obviously they knew how to get married it's not that nobody before Islam didn't

have a nikah they had a knicker and even so it's not about these things so Islam just simply said it's about acceptance how it manifests the rules of what I I mean it doesn't even solve relationships how you have a relationship this would obviously be shaped by your understanding of the day and age people's expectations of relationships would change people's um kind of how they treat each other what do they provide for each other what do they this would all change with Society so yeah so for example in in the past this was written in many of the fit

books that oh if a woman was let's say of re she wasn't poor she was of let's say some reasonable standing that in the thick books they say if you marry her you have to provide her a slave to a maid and you have to provide a today how are you going to do these things what are you going to do nobody's going to expect you to provide a slave or provide a maid provider you know these things don't happen today you don't provide if you get married you provide someone a maid sure maybe some people yeah but some people would say wait wait a minute if I have some people would say if I had a maid why would I get married to start

off with cans all the people go what the hell wait a minute if I had I had Maids already walking around doing everything for me foreign that's kind of the conclusion that's kind of conclusion I came to but it's good to hear someone articulate it so it kind of helps you know kind of have to put the thoughts put in the thoughts

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