Some Thoughts, Some Words, together | Monthly Meetup | Mufti Abu Layth

all right it's been quite a while since I've done a late night stream I thought let's see Allah abbar before anything let me just do a quick sound check if any of you are live could you you know this gives me so many options and that's always uh that's always a [Music]

um that's you know paralyzing so right how is the sound coming through is it okay should I if it's coming a bit um I've got a few options to kind of flick through options options options yes Salam uh let's see fad all right and Sami how is the sound is it coming through fine it's all right shukr

shukan right right all

right on Mark lto all right what is going on people I thought you know it's been a while I should log in say Salam meet you guys yeah just some thoughts some words together I guess that is in many ways

that can be you know like the epith of an entire life you know something on a tombstone really to sum up the story of insan that's all right what is going on well Al Al well I love you too Allah bless you all

aan may Allah keep it that way am mean you know that there's a um there's a a poem of John Ilia he says in it that

[Laughter] that is uh you know it's is it's you know the what you know how they capture um thoughts and meanings it is um in words it's really you know it's something it's like dream weaving you know but

[Laughter] he says that my you know the um my own condition I am unaware of it you know I I don't have that realization that I've heard from others that I'm you see now how would we translate parishan because one could say worried but it's not doesn't capture the same that I'm I don't know like I guess because

paresan in its Essence meant to be scattered and yeah says that it is from S I hear that you know I'm not so well I hear from others hi paranoia no no no not par

paranoia Allah Allah right much love from darn Allah and fad G from down [Music] on um it Shah I will do some T in time to come as well today I thought you know it'll just be great to just it's been an interesting you know a reflection period

really that a I was just reminiscing and I was just thinking and you know so much has happened and on you know on one hand so little has happened and on the other hand so much on a personal basis I was it's it's been just a year now over a year my mother passed away and you know there's that there's other things one could reflect each and every one of us on our personal lives our personal growth our chronological

growth our biological growth mental growth you know just wow you know on a humanitarian level on a political global scale what's been happening and continues to unfortunately happen in in Palestine and in Rafa recently may Allah you know Grant ease to those suffering am me you know there's there's only so much

that people from a secondary perspective can take a secondary trauma so Allah can only Allah only knows what the actual people are going through you know there's secondary trauma as well so you have primary trauma where somebody's going through something and secondary trauma like like if we see the photographs of certain things and you know it renders a helpless

State and you can't do anything about it that creates trauma Within within the viewer and yet especially within Muslims because of our bond you know this not just a humanitarian Bond but a much closer bond with the people OFA that are going through this and

so although I heard something there was some you know I read something about Israel saying to its withdrawing its troops or something I don't know but you know may Allah take these terrorists that's what they are you know it is a government the Israeli government that it's a terrorist state that may Allah take them to account I mean you know in front of the world as they've committed a ities in

front of the world but one thing we are seeing is that there is a an Awakening you know more and more States European some European States uh Spain Norway uh some others have now called not just called but acknowledge the recognition for the state of Palestine so may Allah decree this that we see am mean in you know with our

eyes a free Palestine am mean amen Ya Allah you know there's an there's an image that I can't and I've many of us I feel have seen it it is the one where a child is held up who is beheaded it Ya Allah you know we it is a strange World a strange D that we live in you know a lost for words but we

raise our hands in Du we do what we can and you know above all this is a core message there must always be hope always and always have an optimism you know there is a Hadith it is in that the prophet sallallah alaihi

wasallam is optimism you know this kind of that in spite of the odds always this posit positive optimistic outlook on life that was the Sunnah of the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam and it is our Sunnah to follow that as Muslims am

mean yeah some that was thoughts and you know we that's what's going on and then you zoom in and so many things going on at a personal level with every single person I'm sure you know at a and and just to reflect yeah and what makes us reflect sometimes is Anchor points you know like let's say it's a new year now everybody's doing that because it's a new year so you know people will say oh 2023 has

come to an end oh 2024's come to an end you know how has this year been it's a landmark a temporal Landmark an anchor point and then we have our personal anchor points it could be a birthday could be an anniversary it could be you know the birth of a child it could be the death of a loved one it could be some other temporal Landmark event yeah and that in my case this last week had me thinking it was you know my mom's

passing and I was just thinking it's a strange thing you know this life grief everything you know you you can't quite get your head around this thing we you know this thing we call life huh and

my you know just as a fleeting note or message or advice that visiting the graveyard it really has a profound effect and if you do have somebody that is buried and even if you don't and you just visit the graveyard you know a lot of people they'll they'll go in they'll say fa they may recite something they may do a

bit of Dua and just get up and go and sure and you know each to their own but what I would advise people is sure once you've done that just sit there and just be you know just be present wow you know this like you don't have to say anything you don't have to do anything you don't have to just sit and just

be and it's it's kind of bewildering try it sometimes you know just just for a few you know even whatever you know whether it'll be 5 minutes or whatever or more or less yeah so this was something on my

mind Allah Allah you know in oh I like that Ahmed but I'm troubled you know I hear from others that I'm troubled melancholics another nice one yeah so

right I mean likewise you know right so I mean keep Palestine and other innocent people in our duas am mean right

so what does this say it is true one could say this is an it's you know I mean it could be I guess people use it like a museum or but I I do like the Udu word a like things of wonder a place of Wonder um right

sh sh Allah bless you you know it is really our own soul that sees this goodness in the world oh there was a um Super Chat let me get back to that you know I'd been I I was watching and I was speaking with my Discord group um in a kind of group chat about I watched uh Joe Rogan with

rzan rizvan ver on simulation his his kind of simulation Theory and I have to say it it caught my wonder I was like whoa okay this is fascinating so he's speaking about you know this that this da that is very likely it's a simulation and to be fair that's nothing new a lot of people have said that and

it makes I guess it's an upgrading of terminology because what we're doing is using modern terms to describe the world around us so you know one could say well this because the Quran already teaches us that this life of this world is a game and I have to say that is it's an interesting usage that

that this that this dun this life of this dun is a it's a game and it's not you know a um it's not obvious that this would be the first you 1,400 years ago the a one of the first descriptors or analogies to come to your mind in describing this again you you know you might

describe it in other ways but again H that's interesting you might say test which the Quran does say you might say the life of this world is a journey you might say a struggle you know especially go back, 1400 years plus that the life of this world is a li it is a game you know it's not an obvious choice of words so yeah I was listening to his theory and I was just thinking about what he was

saying and I was trying to think about it from an Islamic perspective that you know what makes things different I don't think it really makes things so different it's just a different usage of nomenclature and terminologies so a lot of the words we use today so when we are using words today uh a lot of them still stem from the Victorian uh Industrial Revolution a lot of the words still and then some have been updated so we use words like drives

pressure the pressure is building up you know I need to blow some some steam I need to um you know like all of this re to reach boiling point to all of these terms and these metaphors and they are nested in the industrial revolution that's where they come from and Sciences that formed around that time deployed these terms like psychoanalysis Freud a lot of his thing

is all about these drives and pressure building up because he's a product of the Industrial Revolution for so and I guess some of that has moved on with computers so now when they refer to the brain they will refer to it as you know with the kind of the the shift in the MBS of psychology so you had the cognitive you know psychology kind of movement take over after after behaviorism and so then they use terms

like information processing you know the that that our brain is and memory Works in certain ways and they give allegories and um to computer processing so in any case using this terminology what so I I guess it's just a more um immediate modern way of describing reality it doesn't mean reality has to be that way it just means that we're using words we know to describe reality and I was listening to a lot of

what he said and some things did really Captivate me I must say and one of them was about the quantum world so he highlights that this is rvan I think he spells it rvan or does he spell it riswan with a w i forgotten now I think he does it with a V rzan ver ver as in v r k he's on Joe Rogan but he's got a few other podcasts on YouTube and a few other places and he's got a he's got now two books out I believe the simulation

uh hypothesis and uh or the simulation Theory and another one as well so speaking of quantum physics that really caught my attention because you see he gives the analogy as a gamer for him because I'm not a gamer so I don't think of the world in that way and he gives this analogy of rendering that the game renders itself based on [Music] optimization so and he says and this is

what has allowed computer games to reach such Heights um you know of playability if you like today that you know all these games Call of Duty or whatever all of this stuff that people are playing and you know so many countless people are playing that how do they do this simultaneously and how do the computers and obviously one is technology has advanced but he explains that the way it works is that you're whatever wherever you're playing in the game it is only

rendering to you what is necessary for you so let's say I'm playing here you're playing wherever you are whether you know you're in London or somebody's in Paris somebody's in New York and they're all playing now the person playing in London he is seeing his wherever he is in the screen so let's say he enters a certain territory where the person from New York is in that so it's only as they enter and it becomes necessary that his screen

will or his the game will render the other person for him prior to that the other person will not exist on his you know where he's it won't be rendered or because it's not optimal you know there's no need to have that it's only on a need basis and he gives this analogy into and he breaks it down giving similarities to quantum physics and that caught my attention because I thought damn okay you know because his whole thing like he's saying that well you know the way in quantum

physics a subatomic particle so we have a you know I suppose with field Quantum field Theory it's going to be excitations but that particle is not in a particular place until we know it it's technically in every place until the wave function collapses and it appears in one place so it's as if reality is optimizing and rendering it you know per need as it becomes you

know on a need basis so that was really fascinating and he gave reference to this uh experiment by wheeler yeah the uh physicist who yeah very famous and he cites this and uh this study that that they were measuring a particular light you know some kind of um I think like a billion light years away something that he G he he he references this in several podcasts so I

am going to further look into this study of Wheeler but he mentions that this light as it's it as we can already see it like the way we can see stars and we can see this you know we can see certain stars shining and all these in the cosmos now they are millions and multi-millions of light years away and galaxies and all of this stuff and so the fact that we can see them means that the light has already traveled here it's taken that many light years for it to be here so we are technically looking into the past now that's a known thing everybody knows that nowadays but the interesting thing he

mentions is that this particular um kind of uh quazar this particular light that they are following it passes I believe a black hole a few million light years away from Earth so it's obviously the light is already here because we can see it now when it passes the black hole it would have either you know beard to the left or to the right of it it would have had to make a decision to come one way or the other but he highlights that when wheeler did this experiment and they went to measure which way did it go it's

only when they measured it that it took the direction but that doesn't make any rational sense because the light is already here means which means that it already took that decision you know a few million light years ago but in this particular experiment that he references it's only when they measured it that it made the choice and they call this the delayed Choice experiment so you know with this particular quaza now I am going to look into that because I was really intrigued by that I thought

bloody hell I mean that's just crazy so yeah so this is really fascinating the whole thing and and based on this Theory the r is the kind of you know the r is in us as a kind of Avatar of a shell that this body that it is playing as a game almost you know as a test in this D and yeah so it was just very fascinating really watching all of that and you know

just contemplating over it and how you know what how does how does that fit in or you know what are the questions or and I don't think there's many because one of the things he highlights he actually speaks a bit about Islam as he speaks about Eastern Traditions Buddhism and other things but Islam as well and how this is actually what a lot of people have always been saying especially in religions and even people like Socrates and other people that this world is an illusion it's not it's like a dream world that is there like in in our tradition you

know n the famous statement which is often attributed as a Hadith but people will say it's the statement ofi and I think I've heard some people say as well but a statement from the Sal nonetheless that that people are asleep and it is when they die that they wake up now you know that's um fascinating and and one could even look at some

verses of the Quran which are speaking about when people are dead but they're speaking about the hour that you know when the hour comes then people wake up in the in the afterlife and although that the general understanding from those verses when they ask each other how long were you out and they say you know that you

know we were asleep for either a day or half a day and and the general understanding is that that is for the grave but one could even extend that understanding to say that is the entire life of this dun that it you know that that that discussion that how long were you sleeping for in this world that this whole participatory reality was but a dream and how long were you asleep that

yman it was but just a day or a few hours of a day so yeah that's interesting staff I wonder if any of you have any thoughts on that I'm going to share the link and if any of you want to join as well um you know you're more than [Music] welcome right right this was an interesting point of NPCs and um what he

called um RPGs that role playing games or Gamers um so so in the sense he says well if this world is a simulation there's two ways of looking at it says one is how some scientists say well this world most likely is a simulation and we're all just NPCs you know this non-playing um non-playing characters non participa non participating characters however you want to say it uh and I understand that today the

younger generation um gen Z especially they use this term in a derogatory sense like an NPC uh pejoratively use it but I don't think other people still use it P I don't think people older than them use it in that way and so that's the term so obviously you can use another term if it bothers people but I think that's only just young very young people it bothers them like school kids and you know people a bit older than that maybe so but to other people it just means people who are so when scientists use this term they're not

using it pejoratively so to many scientists they think well oh this world is most likely ass simulation and therefore everybody's just you know they don't really exist nobody exists the other way is that well you know if this world is a simulation no people do exist and we have souls we have a r and the r is the real kind of character within us that is and we are like a shell within this game you know within this entity we are you know this

body it decomposes in this world it's of this world the real thing is the r now okay but this does beg a question that if this world is a simulation is there a likelihood that there are some characters in this dun that are just like these NPCs then some but we wouldn't really know if that was the case because they would just be renderings of the algor you know of the of the kind of uh the algorithm the

simulation the configuration the dun would have rendered them just like you and me but they or they would appear that way now that really amused me as a thought experiment and I was discussing that with some of you know with my Discord group saying look what you know this is what do you what do you think of this then that they're saying so it's like an extra in a movie like that so so let's say this world is a simulation if it is which many scientists are going that way

um then in in that case and what simulation means by the way simulation means that the reality of this world it is real for us but in actual reality in like in the eyes of like if you consider true reality to be with Allah then this world is like a dream world it is real to the people in it but it's actually like a game a test uh so it being here is actually dreamy like to to us it seems real but it's not it's

like when you're playing a computer game and the computer game is very real but if you broke it down ultimately into ultimate not just code that it would be codes and the code would look nothing like the game and if you broke it down even further the whole computers that we have only run on ones and zeros which look nothing like the actual computer you and me are looking at right now they don't look like ones and zeros but if you break it down to that level that's what it looks like so similarly

if you break down matter to like if you keep reducing matter matter disappears there is not matter I mean if you break matter down to atoms atoms are just 99 some say 99.9% empty space it's nothing the electron creates this force field which is an illusion it's not actually substance it's it gives the illusion of substance so that's I mean that's not something I'm saying that's that's scientific

that's a known fact that matter if you were to reduce it to an atomic level it disappears there is no matter ultimately because if you're going to look at an atom within the atom you're going to have the nucleus which is going to be the proton and the neutron now the nucleus to the atom is so small so small that I've heard simil I've heard analogies given like if the nucleus was I've heard analogies like if the nucleus was a

stadium then the atom would be the size and the atom the rest of it is empty space would be the size of this solar system I mean that's ridiculous that's like nothing there so so what's creat creating the impression of substance is the fields that the force fields that are being created so in any case coming back to this so yeah so let's say with that hypothesis that risan ver was suggesting that if this so let's say this is a simulation

what is the likelihood that there are some extras that are not really like let's say you and me with a r playing the game but they are just there to serve a particular function so I was thinking about that and I thought well what do you know what does Muslim tradition what is our Islamic tradition do they give stories like this and and this I'm not saying this is how it is but I was just looking at this hypothesis

and well we have countless stories countless I mean you couldn't even count them where people will say oh I you know I met this person although he was a person but really he was an angel or they will say I met this person and although he looked like a person but it was Andi he has so many statements like this in his fut hat you know in fact his whole and he is you know obviously undoubtedly I I you know to me one of the greatest Scholars of

Islam he his whole F Mia you know his makan openings or McAn Mysteries this book of his it's based on his experience whilst he was sitting you know at the Kaa where he meets this these mysterious people who he believes were not even though they appear like Earthly people but he feels that they were otherworldly they weren't really humans like you and me with a that they were either an angel or they

were something one would say this non like a rendering an Angelic rendering of this simulation who he has a conversation with and he and then these conversations are what Inspire his whole the these Cog these kind of spiritual openings and Mysteries that unveil themselves to him where he writes his book for toad Makia and so yeah so I was just thinking about that I was thinking well that's you know really uh

H it's it's interesting to Revel I guess if it is a simulation then you can't rule out the possibility of there being you know renderings and the renderings would be because it would be impossible to know if the rendering is because if it is a simulation then the simulation would be so intelligent that you could not you know you and me could never outsmart it in that way because it would it would just be far too intelligent so you could never quite catch it out I mean you might see it you

know this kind of glitch that they say but you could never truly catch it out but yeah so in any case you know this ASB says that you know um that that you know to preoccupy the heart or the mind it's an interesting interesting thought right let's go to I wonder what some of you have said on that

um yeah so this is what so the 2D what in physics the theory of holography which is that this universe is actually a hologram and it's etched onto a kind of 2D or a lower Dimension its Rules and Things Are etched onto something which is not as 3 like this universe is 3D but it's a hologram and that and this there are several thinkers and you know physicists that are inclined that way I'm not saying the majority but there's several

holography and known uh Theory now in physics and what's interesting is they they refer to it as the bulk and the barrier and and interestingly these are terms that Arabi and we have in our Islamic tradition whichi refers to to also to that Dimension the imaginal realm as the Barak the barrier which is like a mo you know perhaps a two-dimensional reality to this ma whichi calls a manifestation and a m which is like a hologram a dream

manifestation of the Barak which is a different world a world of almost symbols and coding uh that's what you know uhi and other people of the spiritual tradition I've said hundreds of years ago like 800 years ago yeah so this the

yeah so they they do say um in this kind of way that the uh thought but not necessarily and what they mean by that by thought is that it's it's it's no different from saying that you know they're saying it's like a dreamlike world so when they're using the word it's not to be understood as a thought because we use the word for thought in IC is not really used for thought in U

we use as thought so we say you know you know that um said but in Arabic you don't use to mean thought so in Arabic thought is like is more like

imagination so when the Great Mystic you know um Abdul Kim Gile says in his poem that um what is it he says yeah what's the first about that you know that this world really like he's trying to say well you know in essence it is this it is not a thought but an imagination and by

imagination what they mean is an imaginal realm so they're distinguishing from just um like how we have imagination our imagination is borrowed from the realm of imagination so yeah so to them is an emergent reality that's a better way to say it so it's something which um it it has a wujud it has a beingness

but it is an emergent being emerging property right kab kab um all right all right so what is let me share let me take a look at there's been some um I've missed [Music] some super chat so firstly Allah bless you all and shukran much love for the

Super Chat at muy why do some people seem to live for deterministic values and others have more optionality um and are able to exert more displays of free will I'm not so sure that you see when you say why do some people seem to live for deterministic Lives why do they seem to live such deterministic lives I feel that that is that a good way to see that is

that that is the mindset you see this is that we you know we um we lean in on in fact we borrow so our worlds are often shaped by the way we we allow them to manifest within our minds so you're right there are many people that live you

know lives of that seem so like almost lifeless but there is a unique gift that each and every one of us already has and that is our capacity as insan as humans that we are the only species that in our moment in that you

know in in in that Essence in that minute in that power in that in that moment we can change the trajectory of Our Lives we can change we can reshape we can our goals we can reshape our paths we can you know our Ambitions hope dreams nothing else in this dun can do

that no creature except insan so we do have that Allah has gifted us with that now sure you know in this Allah says this world is a game you know and la and it's it's a distraction you know it is it is going to distract you now the question is can you focus you know with such distractions so yeah but I do it is you know there's

that as a man thinketh so shall he be that this thing of that it is as we determine in there we see out here and that is a huge part of the imaginary order this har that speaks about because is not just the imaginal realm you know that world that is the unconscious the collective unconscious that is the world of dreams that is the

Barak that is the it is that sure but also it comes right into our imaginations like it's connected to our imaginations so and our imagination inhabits this and I'll speak more about this when inshallah on I'll just speak on you know continuing the Islamic psychology and you know the path ofi that I'll I'll speak on the imaginary order

the and then the the symbolic order and yeah that would you know so a bit of Lan meets Allah right so let's see Turman all right brother bless you and bless Allah turkistan the land of

sjuk indeed you know people who played powerful roles in Islamic history right is there a possibility of angels manifesting into physical forms in the shape of human special characters well that would be the if if you did take that root of saying that there are uh let's say this world is a simulation in that way then the likelihood of there being some extra characters is almost it's

highly highly likely if that be the case now obviously we don't know if that is the case because we don't know whether this world is a simulation but if it is like let's say if you because a simulation would it is highly likely that there would be some extra extras some renderings of the configuration ation in which case then okay that then it's likely that they may be you know uh Angelic renderings or they may be yeah so

that's you know or somehow functional renderings that are not you know it's for them it's not a test and they just by Divine decree there so one could say maybe I know there's a huge on was he a person was he an angel was he an entity like that what was he huge disagreements between the scholars right let's

um right let me just see did I miss a I missed a question if one is praying behind the Imam Allah see Salah question see all of you people worried about here's the real question Allah see W what a name right there firstly Allah bless you for your super chat if one is praying behind the Imam and the Imam finishes before one finishes saying the Salat and Salam so if one is praying behind the Imam and the Imam finishes before one finishes saying oh the Salat and Salam should one

finish the Salat and Salam or follow the Imam is the prayer invalid either way right so it's not about um let me just see sorry sure or or is it that cuz is it more an

archetype to of teaching a mode of teaching so to AR um you know is it becausei refers to him as you know this angel that is embodied you know this so and I know he meets many people not just there's more than you know one person he meets uh around around the Kaa mystically but sorry I got distracted coming back to right so you follow the Imam um the Hadith of the Prophet

sallallah alaih wasallam is that that the IM has been placed so that you follow him you know so you follow the IM if the Imam does Salam you do now you said if you delayed it's not invalid the Salah is not invalid but it's not um you know it's it's it's discour it's discouraged to be out of t with the Imam so you

start doing your own thing the Imam carries the the Salah of the so it doesn't matter if you don't finish uh so long as the Imam has has prayed well right right Al oh now I see the English name I was thinking first what's Al

it's now I get it okay sorry that was uh um could you talk more about DMT hi these see those things are to do with the realm of the imaginal world they are part of that realm yeah [Music]

right what what's watching the nation H shukran Allah bless you for your Super Chat mu can you explain the alleged Samaritan error the the alleged Samaritan error in the Quran I don't know if I understand what that Samaritan error in the Quran I haven't found a good explanation yet thought you might have one I don't know what the Samaritan error is what is the Samaritan error are you talking about the

summary the of mam I mean the summary of mam is not Samaritan in the Christian Samaritan sense so I'm not sure if H I suppose you know I don't know whether in English we would say Samaritan if we would uh it's you know it's imperative so as not to confuse him with the Samaritans from the time of Jesus they nothing to do with the samary which is you know going to be more than a thousand years ago from a different part

of the world right so the Sam it is yeah it is quite mystical what exactly is is going on and the Quran gives reference to an incident with an individual without mentioning who the individual is but highlights even samary isn't fully understood what what do samary mean in that context of the bani Israel and the Egyptian that who was the samary now you know

some people have said maybe that was a title for him maybe he was from a particular Clan maybe he was from originally from these other um you know the uh something to do with um the Sumerians or something but people have come up with all kinds they're not exactly sure why what is this reference being like we know there's a reference to this person why was he called that we're not sure um but he he seems you know he he appears in a very mysterious

context in the Quran and that he says he saw you know he seems to have got hold of something that would allow him to do something and you know he says he took from you know you know wow so eloquently expl but it's very enigmatic still and mysterious it's it is enshrouded in mystery this

incident and then there is the incident that Moses says to him that you know this is your punishment is that you are to say you know that you see now even that is said in a very mysterious way now people say this means do not touch me because maybe he developed leprosy but it it is said one cannot deny it's very enigmatic the expression that you are to say

laas that there is no m ual touching that you're doomed to say that now what does that mean and I I think this would I would love to explore that a lot more actually inshallah as my as we resume T and and reach those verses maybe but I think if that was your question I think that's what you're talking about otherwise I don't know what the Samaritan error means right let me share the link

on um somebody said he was a magician in older Traditions possibly yeah I mean possibly that could be something that he's um he's type he's referencing because the Egyptian thing is just so you know they were a civilization that we just still don't fathom the heights that they' reached and just was it yesterday I think they found the sarcophagus of ramesis

II and I think it was yesterday in in it was online and they're still discovering things you know and so um yeah right let me share the um right let me say it's

anistic right so let me just Cy this uh right okay I've shared the link and you can you can click the link uh just you can just ensure your microphone and your camera are switched on and then you're more than welcome okay right so till that what are some

other questions H Salam from [Music] Indonesia um thoughts on Hassan Spicer he is a a proper modern torchbearer I like that word torch bearer of the of the akaran tradition absolutely I have watched uh quite I've watched a few of his lectures I think there's at least a few on YouTube I would love to connect with him

and you know benefit from his um you know his his learning and get him on a Mind Trap that would be awesome inshallah yeah Muti my uh daughter Z Bay watching from Australia Allah bless you both aan right uh okay we've got some people tuning in right guys I if you can switch on your cameras

let's he said I thought he said Hassan the twitch I don't know about twitch so right okay as are you alhamdulillah m everything

is going kind of hectic exams are tomorrow oh wow exams are tomorrow yeah you've passed don't worry about it flying colors Man flying colors it's it's done I can see it radiating from you the the success inshah in what what is the what are the subjects I'm good I'm good subjects are a lot to say but the time is an

issue time God you know time this is it isn't it time is the issue you know it's something which we we never truly understand we feel we never truly have yet one could say it's all we actually have and at the same time you know most of it is just in our heads in our imagination if you think about it you know the past is in our imagination the future is in our imagination the only thing that's actual

is the is the everpresent now which which we just keep running away from what is going on hi hi hi hi V you know this is this is it h communication it's crazy because if you think about it you know even language it's such a strange phenomenon

that we have language that we have speech you know know it's like wow truly it's a mystery you know it's a mystery yeah I I was uh studying studying uh Surah Al the 97 Surah it was in the Ramadan so so what is the

uh who the who the who is referring to like what is who generally it's understood that this is speaking about the Quran that this is the general understanding that we revealed that we sent down it now what is the it the Quran on a night of immense power of immense decree of immense can mean power can also mean you

know the decree of Allah one could say that the who is also about like you know it's Allah's command he sent it down one could understand it to mean things like that as well but the general understanding is that it is about Revelation the Quran like uh why Allah like hide it why didn't he specify the who uh or it could be the uh like the manifestation that the prophet uh got revealed on his uh first revelation is that cognitive uh

cognitive Revolution that the prophet had oh as in Adam the first ever in we sent down Consciousness yes the command and by by extension to the prophet like he qualified on that day for Revelation on the same so many things are on the same nature yeah so like you know it's whe it's the Quran whether it's in the beginning you see now this is where I said that one tap could

be uh you know one speculation could be that the who is referring to the command of Allah that Allah sent down his command Now command can mean like obviously people could like command like is a command that's more like an imperative like in language a command but command generally could be so it's not it's and what that means is this is for example the command to be or the command you like Kun but doesn't have to mean

for the D so that it you know it is but also for things as they appear like let's say if Consciousness like you're saying could that also be one of the great things sure I mean that could you know also nobody's denying that is one of the greatest things commands from Allah Allah says you know they ask you about the that it is from the command of my Lord that he commanded like it came into existence that this this thing of being

this you know this this Consciousness it so could it be that many events are all they all fit on this that it was the command that it could have been uh Consciousness it could have been Revelation as a whole it could have been the Quran as well that all of these things maybe happened on this same you know this particular chosen uh night or of of decree yeah I mean that's allaham I mean that's also you know very

um possible I think that's an that's a very interesting way to look at it I have to say um and actually yeah us really pondering about a lot like what what is this who actually refer is it specific to the uh Prophet or is the universal experience that every Prophet has went through like it is the moment when he qualified the state that Allah gifted uh that qualified of prop yeah yeah like you have to uh tap into it

like it it comes but you also have to uh acknowledge that that it came and then you tap into it yeah I mean see the Mak of that NAB clearly I mean that is something which you know it is such a Mak and you know I was um it is something that gives access to a a realm a reality that that we don't have access to and

and what's interesting is I know earlier I was speaking about the simulation theory that um rizvan ver was speaking of but he mentions in his podcast that that you know how you he gives this analogy of saying you know how you have Gamers and some are on such an advanced level that they can see all kinds of different things and the other person on the same playing the the same scenario but like a level three player can't see any of these things so he was giving this analogy in his podcast discussion of uh profits or sometimes you have

other you know special figures that they will be on different levels if you like to other people that they would see things and they would have access to a realm that we you know we wouldn't configure that we wouldn't it wouldn't really uh we wouldn't have access to it in that way clearly I mean is one of those channels uh undoubtedly so yeah I mean this these are interesting ways I have a question following on that that uh do you believe that uh Prophet uh like this W that

Prophet is uh gifted with uh did he had to work for it like did he had to prepare prepare for prepare himself for the Revelation or it just God choses him and by that reason he got the Revelation because I want to uh because that thought crossed my mind because the the general understanding that we have and you know if I'm um the general understanding that we we have is that there's that Allah chose

like Allah in his infinite knowledge and infinite decree you see it is all complete to Allah Allah already knows he's already chosen the prophet and in fact they say that the the prophet his being was to emerge from the from that primordial first beingness that came into reality you know which the first sense of which they also call the mamia in mystical terms that this was in time

to come it was from that beingness that the being of the Prophet was to emerge now so there's that side so that the prophet had already so in a had the prophet said that you know I was a prophet um when Adam was you know Adam was not yet and I was already like meaning Allah had already decreed these things and so there is that side which is the Divine decree but then there is the life of the Prophet now in light of that the life of the

Prophet as well was one in a way that was on that path then so the prophet was always you know he was somebody before he was a prophet he was known as a he was somebody that um they already saw these leadership qualities in him like when he settled the debate the not the debate the dispute between the Blackstone um he also was somebody that would already help the poor he would kind of give to to the needy this is before he became a prophet when Khadijah

says you know when she takes him to no and and he says to him but you're somebody that you know does all these good things and you you know in the Hadith in bukari now and the prophet was somebody that was deeply reflective like he would you know when as he was approaching those years of prophethood and this this seems to be a very significant age as well like the age 40 and before the prophet sallallahu alai am uh was approaching that he would

often go and be in in a very deep reflective State you know a heightened sense of introspective reflection he would go to the cave and do you know this kind of practice of this kind of almost like a meditative uh this or some call it this this practice of this solitary deep meditative reflective introspection and just being you know just a sense of just being and so yeah

so there is so there is that Journey during the lifetime of the Prophet no doubt about that uh but we would believe that like the prophet said that I was already a prophet or you know and this is that Hadith you know the one that Allah created my when there was a Hadith of jabir I believe and I know people problematize the the this Hadith but the what the this Hadith is referring to that you know Allah created the new of your Nabi the light the essence when you know when other things hadn't been created what

that was referring to is more this concept that this first sense of beingness that emerges that's more at a you know this it's more at a very mystical metaphysical level but yeah so one would say look there's both of these things are happening but yes there is this Destiny and decree from before as Muslims we we would believe that yeah yeah M like there was also a Hadi of Aisha that uh before like free

Revelation that uh the love of seclusion like love of being alone was F like and I was I was talking about that because why people are don't talking about like the pre activities of the Prophet before Revelation like pre- Revelation activities like there are so less Hadith on this also that yeah you're right you know that would be beautiful honestly to just to even you know to to have a

connection with that part of the prophet's life it is just something so and I do I agree with you that I feel it's it's kind of overstepped overlooked in in the other events that follow and yeah yeah I I just like you would yeah would really appreciate that and love that because it is something because you know what the prophet is teaching us you know this Solitude this what you said about uh

being alone it is not the same the prophet is teaching as being lonely but you know being alone with the alone you know in fact there's a book by Henry koban about alone with the alone with Allah it's like uh being lonely with the uh choice and meaning so lonely is often described as so yeah so alone is more they're not actually from the same roote so the word lonely and alone although they have you know sound

similar so people think they're from the same rot they're not and alone is more to do with just one the one like being you know as one but lonely is from this loneliness where people feel uh that you know they they lack they don't have somebody to be with them but one could be alone in a crowd you know one could be lonely as well I guess in a crowd but really it's more alone one about having Solitude you know this you are so when the prophet he wasn't

lonely but he was alone yeah like he would seclude himself from people and he would enter this kind of meditative reflective uh this state of that he would practice my understanding is a state of just being you know just be like you just be present that there's and and in that presence you you know you allow this bond with Allah this is this is my understanding of that that

was going on um that was there in that time so but you're right there isn't much um You Know spoken about sah if sah could ask the prophet like how how did you you uh tap into it or how did you manifest uh this Revelation that you got like what was the prerequisite kind of so as in what what were you know what for example what what was the activity that you generally used to do in the cave like what um you know did you so

for example was it a focus on breathing was it a focus on being present was it a focus on now we know that the prophet used to fast when he would go there and he would take some food with him some small amounts of some food some water but he would fast so we know that there was this fasting would take place we know that there was a kind of sensory deprivation so the prophet would go you know because inside the cave it would be dark there wouldn't be light so you kind of you're secluding yourself from the light secluding yourself from people you are fasting that now you are just being

present and the prophet would go for days so yeah it would be wonderful to know like what were you know like maybe a bit more detail on the activities on the focus what what you know how were they how did they used to manifest these activities what did the did the prophet mainly focus on you know would he close his eyes would he open would it would this this kind of stuff I don't think I'm going to you know I'm going to try and do more research on if something is about but I don't think there's much uh documentation on all of this I feel that a lot of

this because a lot happened after prophit hood that it's almost as if it eclipsed this light you know that that that that that because so many significant uh events were happening that this almost it got eclipsed so yeah that's what I like this uh like this world is so mysterious like you get the ultimate fulfillment from the ultimate loneliness or being alone yeah

and here uh raheim had actually said he actually feels less lonely when alone most of the time and no need to pund to different and competing group think yeah absolutely you know I I really do love that title that koban Henry koban gave his book on Ari I have it here somewhere it's called alone with the alone that you are you know because one of the things about being alone as well is often in Arabic they will say you know in this kind of and is really from the W of one could

say of Allah so it is it's a fascinating I think play on on words but yeah ashikur it's it's been amazing and also I just want to talk about that M like that here like present tense and also it could also mean future tense uh like I'm thinking that why like this present tense is used in this form because from the start it was started like an which is past tense and

then it ended in t like it's like Revelation Revelation w't stop but one would understand that you see the let's say we the general understanding this is about the Quran or Revelation the has already happened that's not continuously happening because the Quran has already been revealed but the Angels enveloping us in their Mercy you know enshrouding us engulfing

us kind of you know just taking us in in the mercy and grace of God will forever be the case as long as they will be insan this kind of you know that this this enveloping of Mercy will always be there so that doesn't really need to be in the past tense I suppose if it was in the past tense it would have just been speaking about a particular incident but if it's done to understand the present and future because in Arabic the M can mean both the present and the

future so you know if I say like he's reading it can mean he's reading can mean that you know he will read it can mean that as well now you can just isolate the future by putting either scene or s in front of it that he will later on read but if I say or he's writing it means he's writing but it can also mean and this is why as a you know and we'll bring it to uh or wrap it up in the ofah

when they say that have you accepted like you know have you accepted the nah like in English they say I do do you accept I do in Arabic they don't allow you to sayal rather if you listen to them if they say in Arabic they'll say I accepted but they won't sayal I accept the reason being because technically the mudar can include the future and somebody might say when I said I do I didn't say I do I meant I will so to stop that they said that what

you have to say is I have already so that's a little you know uh little we could we could use that sometimes it would be lot beneficial say when I I'm talking about you know you go doesn't even understand Arabic I meant Abal next year

akal Allah Allah it's been a pleasure yeah speaking to you Allah thank you M for letting me in and I I missed you a lot no likewise man I miss you too Allah bless you y and we'll speak soon insh take care people that was Asik uh who's got his uh studies his exam tomorrow and right okay so what is going on it's been let's wrap this up was there anybody else coming on all right

let me share the link you is there a nope right let's wrap it up it's been one and half hour right and there's only so much attention span our you know fellow Brethren who watch this will have so guys some interesting discussions actually will today on the you know on the simulation theory on I Arab's always on I Arby he's always a

key um you know a key trope and uh personality in our uh learning and on our journey we've in addition to that a few other things here and there some discussions we've had uh small some questions on the S on Destiny on Salah right somebody said we're ever we're forever stuck in the Everlasting leap in the Everlasting present But the irony is

that you know if um if if we you see it's the one thing we run from and if you can bring your mind to the present you're actually more likely to be um you know safeguarded from things like depression because what they saw is people who can bring their mind their attention to the now they have less or infrequent activity or a

lesser registered activity of the default mode Network within the brain um which is interesting because the default mode network is then linked with things like depression but it's also linked with our personal story The autobiographical self is linked with the default mold Network you see because the story of you is not in the present it's in the past or the future it's all in the mind when you bring yourself to the now it's as if you know when I said to you about if you visit the

grave and the you know the graveyard and you just sit there and just be like just be like don't you don't need to let any thoughts stick to you you know if they come they go just be present you don't need to you know you've done let's say you've read your fa you've read you've done whatever it is Dua now you're just being try not let to let the thoughts distract you try not to let them stick they come they just

go in that state of being and you don't need to be at the graveyard you can just do this anywhere you can do this at home you can do this anywhere you can just you know usually I guess in nature it just helps if you do it in nature what you'll find is in that state of being your autobiographical self your ego starts to dissolve and I don't mean by the ego the ego as in the you know the bad the

jealous I don't mean that I mean you're actual you yourself like the state of the ego that we have like in Psychology you start to feel a sense of f an ego Death at a subtle level or an ego rupture a dissipation of the maybe not an annihilation but a dissipation of the ego starts just try it it's actually very you know it's it's it's intriguing it's definitely an experience that you start

to see that the more you bring yourself to the now your sense of self starts to disappear and you see the now is interestingly one definition of the Hadith when Allah says Hadith that I am time that I am and the as Jo shif shif Jo in his mentions it is the it is the

forever now that if and that is where Allah is you see you it's a proximity and it's a distance it's distal to the self and proximal to Allah so yeah you

know you know what is it that I'm going on about ah you know may nobody understand Allah Allah but there is something huh to all of this you know to quote that there is something here I make Dua for all of you Allah bless you all honestly it's been a uh uh a pleasure catching up with you guys I hope you've been well and yeah if any of you need to reach out

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