Monday Nights with Mufti #178 | Q&A Unscripted & Unrestricted | Mufti Abu Layth

foreign people as always i've got to keep people on age you see that's why

oh is this just the story of my life man i don't know one day when i grow up i'll be on time people let's let's begin let's get this show on the road so what is going down first and foremost let me just um do a quick uh sound check as always an audio sound check what's up peeps alright mufti zamzam says you're greeting yo how you doing all right look at that yo how you doing

[Laughter] uh i'm doing okay shukran ah hello my people arise i love you all too yeah i love you all so what's going down sounds all good sound is banging froude of robbery it says sound is banging it's not just good it's banging so let's get this show on the road people yeah you know with the time thing sid khan much love you're

doing doing it doing it with the super chat you know with this uh timing thing it's like you know the saying in order [Laughter] you know i've got a better one actually where he says that sums up my you know my whole life events

[Laughter] says the person must have surely gone on time it's just that the time went before him [Laughter] yeah that's it man that's it what's going down mechente what's going down what's going down so i did make a note of a few things i want to discuss just in case i forget you know what it is i get distracted and i today i was very yeah yeah you're right this is extraordinarily late but i get distracted and by the time i

manage to not that i get distracted from my show and from you awesome wonderful people geogeb uh it's just that i'm caught up and by the time i managed to finish yeah anyway what is time anyway people is relevant it's relevant it's simply it it's it's an uh one wonders does it even exist as a phenomenon you see if you think about it people look we view our lives we perceive them in a forward moving um series of events

okay so we we see this kind of like an um there is this we see a moving to b moving to c and the ever present now seems to just move continuously forward and the ever present now a moment ago develops into the past so we're moving let's say from this direction to this direction in in like in a linear fashion but if some entity or let's say from another dimension you look you're looking down

now to them it's just all simply in front of them in the ever present now [Laughter] you guys are like what on earth is he on about so let's get back to some questions said khan you're doing it you're doing it um rights ruby red is this kind insomniac i'm not an insomniac but i am

a vampire i can i can say that much from germany we're gonna speak about our um [Laughter]

how long is tonight's session leith a cha-cha cha-cha hey lis hey [Laughter] you know the over-familiarity kind of uh you know this ah let me let me tell you something you know people sometimes i'll get messages and people will write to me they'll kind of message me and all sorts with social media it's another problem i've been having is with my voice recently

yes so so social media is fine to some extent you'll have a profile so you can always identify look at the face think oh yes this person but sometimes i'll just get a random message see somebody might just send me a text message or or something like this and i don't know who on earth they are and the thing is this that you know people will just talk to me as if they absolutely know me yeah now which is fine which is fine

there's nothing wrong with that but they won't even really introduce themselves they'll have this assumption that like okay fair enough let's say they've watched a lot of me so they feel kind of familiar with my i don't know they see me a lot so they think that you know like maybe i don't know this is two-way like like i i don't know maybe somehow i see them or uh so when they'll message me they'll just kind of just go on as if one like we're really familiar which isn't necessarily a problem depends that depends that depends

but uh that depends on my mood but the other thing is that it they don't introduce themselves and they don't say who they are and they don't say like how we know each other or anything and i'll ask i'll say like who is this and they'll just introduce themselves by like let's just say they'll just say their name like it's abdullah i don't think who the hell is that

so people if you do ever reach out to me always introduce yourself tell me a bit about yourself so i get to know who you are um it gives me uh you know a better perspective you see on whether i want to whether i want to invest my time in responding now i'm joking i'm joking i'm joking let's move on people what a what a week what a week people so much coming on um it began i don't know if you guys remember the heat wave which was killing me oh my god i uh

i don't know i just do not i'm not down with these kind of heat waves as a person man i just like the weather to be nice bright breeze you know like a good breeze i don't like this oh you sweating and all this kind of stuff and it just it renders me redone like i just can't do anything like i can't work i can't do i just feel like so lethargic and like it's but there were fires there was fires internationally right here in birmingham people there were fires it was just going uh you had this [Laughter]

not quite with their priorities in place but genotique i also had a mind trap done last week people if you haven't caught up with that uh that was with bushra from the apprentice you can watch that it's on youtube other than that let me just see oh check this out those of you that have seen this and an arab lady approaches uh i mean in some supermarket somewhere

in the arab world [Laughter] oh oh

uh there you go she's broken that too [Laughter]

trying to reenact abraham's story you see this had gone viral on social media people were like uh you know everybody was talking about it so since everybody's talking about it i'm right here as well so i've got to drop my you know the two pen stupid stupids as the saying goes for adelie so that's in arabic so this uh lady young or or not so younger can't tell goes into

this supermarket and [Laughter] you have sometimes a heart attack and some people they have a taqwa attack you know it's like so her demands that how can these hindu statues be sold in this uh muslim country whichever it is i'm not sure what muslim country it is it may be in the gulf state somewhere and she sets about destroying them i just want to say this is so stupid

is utterly unacceptable okay this i don't know if she didn't realize but that wasn't her dad's house she's walked into a supermarket which is private property then she's just you know this is simply destruction of private property of people of just you know even if it's another religion first of all it's not your assets to destroy secondly to many people that is sacred now it may not be sacred to you

right it may not be sacred to you but it is sacred to many other people now nobody is asking you to believe in hinduism nobody's asking you to believe in these statues that particular one i think ganesh nobody's asking you to believe in that but to go destroying it as some kind of a threat to your iman that my iman has become this is a muslim she gives you know is this not a muslim country of course it's a muslim country but a muslim country does not mean

that hindus can't go and buy the things of you know of worship in the time of the prophet in arabia they were christians who would purchase the the crucifix of course they would they would purchase wine they would purchase these things they would sell these things this was part and parcel of their religion so if there's hindus living in that country whatever it is they would probably want to purchase these idols obviously these figures aren't just there for the fun of it they're there

to sell so the person who's selling them is assuming they must be getting sold so this is compound ignorance and you know some people might argue aha they might say aha but must yeah over here we catch you out you know this heart so how do they catch me up they might say but ibrahim ali salaam went and destroyed the statues [Laughter]

i don't know you're gonna come prepared you see well my response to that would be first of all it would be listen you johal i mean jailor you this is first of all first of all if you know i'll have you know right that when abraham destroyed the statues first of all right he was divinely instructed to do so so let's go with first of all as just a and then i'm going to come to the other point

right he was a pr he was a prophet of god okay so unless you're a prophet of god and unless she's being divinely receiving wahi that go and do this it is blasphemous to even suggest there is a connection between her and abraham to start off with secondly

at least read a bit of history you know before you make these dumb objections abraham's father ran the sh it was his shop of idols abraham used to work in his dad's shop it was those idols he breaks okay he gets them together and smashes them they were hit in his own dad's shop they weren't in your dad's shop

they weren't in so this lady didn't go to her own dad's shop and start breaking her dad's property in the story of ibrahim his father is the key idol he makes and sells idols trades in idols and he makes them has a little um a workshop where he makes them and that is where ibrahim alayhi salaam is left in charge and when they've gone what he does is he smashes them so he doesn't actually break into people's homes or go into other people's temples and smash their idols

so just just to correct that point so first of all he was a prophet secondly he was so it's not about you know he just came you know whimsical kind of decision secondly it was his own dad's personal property and you may say well he annoyed the people by doing it but it was not their property that he smashed it was his family business and thirdly right right thirdly this lady who comes in

as an example on the back of her abaya she has some kind of like uh some animation some drawing some kind of cartoon or something on the back of her abaya you can see it uh if if you go online and see the thing if she's got such a problem with pictures then why is she donning that around and in her own house everywhere she goes i mean that's her own thing by her own choice so this is as dumb as dumb gets people so yeah i just thought look i'd share that right now

can i use vpn to enable cache app hmm i don't know what the hell cash app is right so uh right mufti is it okay to call my dog pete in islam frank zappa yeah it's okay you can call your uh you can call your dog pete i guess i don't know why that he's repeating that so many times i don't know uh

what's going on did i miss a let me check i think i may have missed a a zebra gee [Laughter] shukran the worst muslim

better than the best kafir is the worst muslim better than the best kafir of course not you can't see hierarchy or shall i ask whose dad made that hierarchy whilst he was bored in quarantine and don't say ibm josiah i couldn't care less if he said it look people you do not we are not i'm gonna break some news to you guys here

so this because these we are not god's favorite children okay i'm just breaking that to you the belief that we are somehow god's favorite people that's exactly what it is it's stupid right so we are not god's favorite people and this claim is a dumb claim it is made by many muslims it's made by people of all faiths christians you know jewish people god's favorite children muslims start to think acha they are god's favorite children

god has got us i mean i do believe god has got us in the sense that he's watching over us and taking care of us but i believe he's doing that with everyone now the fact that you worship him is you know testament to your your commitment and devotion to god not to his somehow obligated favor upon you it doesn't work in that way so i just want to be correct you know make things clear there when this muslims seem to think that like the way christians say if you

embrace jesus christ as your savior it doesn't matter how much of you could be a murderer uh you know commit war crimes against humanity you could be a rapist you could be the the worst you know somebody some evil psychopath serial killer you could be a pedophile you could be any you could be the just as philosophine you know the lowest of the law and they have this assumption that yeah but if you say

um or if you pray your salah then you are somehow amongst the elite of humanity [Laughter] i don't know what uh connection or what kind of communication you're receiving from god we've got bad news for you though that's not coming from god maybe the devil but not god so people human beings are based on their actions okay iman is unquestionably a great

uh a great action to show devotion to god but to be fair other people show it too christians show devotion um jewish people show devotion other people do that as well and that hence allah says in the quran that they will be from allah and all these people it's not just muslims he allah mentions and the verse we mentioned previously about the aya safiya that that is uh that you have you know the all these different places one massage and masajid as well

mosques but you have monasteries and synagogues and um temples youth garufiasm that the name of allah is glorified in the mall so we have to snap out of this attitude and but there's a problem you see because the problem is when uh people start to think like this they feel well why am i being a muslim then

if it's like that then you know why am i being muslim this is where the verse of the quran fits perfectly no not the one about the mutating the one that yamuna alaika and islam that allah says to the prophet that hey check these people out they think they're doing a favor onto you by embracing islam

that you know allah says islam if allah has guided you to islam that is allah's favor to you you know you're not doing no favor to god he doesn't owe you anything you need to get out of this attitude of like well why should i then worship if you know if other people are also being uh you know if i'm not god's favorite child uh we need to outgrow this attitude okay so that's what i would say uh adam ali is saying he watched the

interview with bushra he didn't appreciate it okay fair enough fair enough um female poets when are we going to hear a poem by any female poet i did just two weeks ago i had a poem up here by uh by one of my favorite current time female poets yasra rizvi i'm absolutely a fan of her enamoured by by her words and her thoughts so sh i mean she has many poems i will i will share more of her stuff in the future

which reminds me on momento reminds me people where's the poem for today allah [Music]

foreign hi hi hi hi people i'd like to take this time out to pay tribute to rahat indori sahib rahim a poet who really was a legend he somebody born and raised in india in door he traveled the world he had an islamic education and also a secular one as well he'd done a phd in urdu and was a lecturer and professor of urdu for

i believe a considerable while and then he just kind of dedicated himself to poetry and he had an enchanting style about him he passed away this last week i believe at 70 years of age he initially fell ill with coronavirus and then died of a heart attack whilst in hospital but an amazing uh person i i'll share just if i can

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foreign foreign you know what it is i have a soft spot for poets in my heart i feel that they are a um you know in the muslim world in the muslim world

they are amongst the last bastion of of free thought and a compassion for humanity combined um honestly i don't feel that this you know in the muslim world the clergy are they're not even a waste of space they are a cancer that is malignant and it's at its final levels i mean they are to islam what pancreatic cancer would be to people

but poets they they they are a breath of fresh air they who often speak for humanity they try to enlighten people towards compassion in muslim countries that is because in the west i suppose people can speak anyway and you don't have that intimidation but in the muslim world it's not i don't think it's it's easy so and we'll speak a bit about that later on today because with this whole incident of some pakistani actress and now the clergy have gone mad nothing new there but yes and what's

going on with her but yeah i want to share that there was a poem since this last week also saw uh independence day for pakistan and india so you know much uh felicidades and congratu you know great uh blessings and tidings to anybody that was celebrating that to me these things are you know just history political they happened so but there's a poem of rahat in doris that i want to share on that

that if you disagree with someone and these these are life lessons if you disagree with someone so what it's not like life is at stake it says this it's just all smoke this isn't the sky you're talking about you're talking about just smoke at the end of the day

he says that if a fire breaks out many in many directions like the damage will spread in all directions it's not like it's just our residents in this neighborhood he says i know i accept that the enemy the adversary is not under skilled we don't underestimate them it says but he doesn't he's not prepared to risk his life

like us either meaning that there is a passion that we have which is unparalleled it says that when we speak we speak the words of truth we're not like you after you know it's not your tongue by which we speak s the people you see today will be gone tomorrow you should see these people as tenants not

as landowners and then he has this you know in light of all these these politics that were going on this right-wing right-wing fascism that was rising in india he says that everybody's blood contributes to the soil of this land hindustan he says

says india doesn't belong to anyone's dad it's not but yeah i want to pray a tribute to him he's an amazing he was an amazing person and inspiration and i advise people like this that can understand poetry to to to develop an interest in it it will improve the way you view life and the world right let's move on people what's going down right right mufti saab were you an re teacher

i was an re teacher i told re for many years i told arabic i taught ah those are the good old days you know when you didn't have to when you like just talk freely you're like ah who cares about see i'm not i me and institutionalization don't gel well you see i like to do a job with passion but i don't like these kind of rigid structures you see so yeah but alhamdulillah i left that age i left teaching probably

in i it was in 2013 so it's been almost about seven years here your video sound is low uh okay i don't think this sound is low right so what is going on a rebel yeah i remember those days you know i'm gonna say it now and i'll get in trouble easy people will be like is that what he used to do i was one of those that i can't be bothered with this kind of stuff i'm all about teaching people you see i want to teach i taught i taught people well i taught people with a passion when i did i mean sometimes bureaucracy

got in the way but i wasn't about like you know oh you gotta mark this like this and you gotta give this kind of this and you gotta follow this assessment style like this and you to make reports over here and reports over there i'd be like this would be my report's attack that was pretty much sums up my attitude to bureaucracy absolutely honestly

but it was an awesome time though we had a great laugh and taught people i'll have you know that because i was an examiner for ari for about five four or five years i examined for gcse re uh i uh i mean i knew exactly every i mean that was because of that my skill of how exams work my students in re obviously i don't examine them but every single student would pass unquestionably you know it doesn't matter what the game

is you need to know how to pass [Laughter] i would be like don't worry about it people you're gonna pass i'm gonna make sure you pass speaking of exams there's been a scandal people a scandal so in the uk because of coronavirus a level students couldn't do their exams but the government lo and behold the messiah boris johnson said look don't worry we got this and his sidekick hancock

the man they called the duracell bunny they said look we've got this what we're going to do is we will give out the predicted graves grades so people thought chalo yebi one of the suggestions was should the teachers give out the predicted grades because they know this student [Music] they said if you do that they could be corruption they could favor their pupils fair point fair point they said we don't want anybody

landing in a position in university or a profession that they're not entitled to and thereby endangering people in the future you know it's like that that works too so what they did is they came up with a formula they looked at einstein and thought e equals m c squared atar equal m squared they applied that they got newton's laws then they got some you know from maxwell and then they got the you know the drac equation and then they got all of these [Laughter]

they said okay the way we're going to work it out we're going to do this that and then we're going to throw in the postcode and the postcode will also impact the grades because what is the expectation of let's say b8 in alum rock which is birmingham alum rock those of you that don't know alum rock you're quite fortunate alum rock is basically pakistan in birmingham but it's that part of it's rural pakistan it's not even just pakistan it's rural

bro you know it's the place where people come when they want to interview like an absolute specimen they say we need a specimen so so when they look at an area like b8 and they say well what are the average standard expectations from b8 so i don't know is it a an e you know is it a a d they go so the guys had a d so what they will do is just base it on the postcode

so so many students got absolutely downgraded students who were expecting an a didn't get an a because their postcode didn't deem them to be entitled to an a and this hit especially it hard hit underprivileged working class um these kind of especially ethnic minorities and any working-class communities who live in postcodes that are just working-class areas they're not like middle class and what it did is it gave a boost to

people who lived in in nice areas you know upper middle class areas or posh or went to private school because people where the private schools are established those people usually live in uh you know very well to do areas so they even if they were looking at a b they ended up getting an a dunya by this is this is the politics of all of this is going on and now they're like what what do we do what do we do and so uh kierstamas has presented that the

people be entitled to appeal and the government has to fork the bill for their appeal anyway i mean i think the whole thing was so dumb all they should have just done is gone with their mock exams and allowed the teachers to have some input or worst case allow them to retake the exam next year or something or they had to do something they've got to come but to do this postcode is the dumbest thing i mean it's just it's just like einstein this is why you know boris johnson bojo is who he is right so irfan nagi let me just check

what's uh if i missed any i haven't missed any um super chats no that's fine here's one right there is aura irfan nagi hi mufti i was wondering if you could give a brief historical explanation of the context of surah al fil thanks for all you do shukran irfan much love dearly appreciated i've already got a tafseer of this it's in a clip it's on youtube

so if you speak if you search for i think if you just search the keywords of either or ab if you look for the words it will come up now what this was is the incident is to do with a a legend that existed in makkah the abrahad the axumic king who'd come over from ethiopia abyssinia my ethio abyssinia had come over habesha and he had kind of taken over the

southern arabian kingdom which was known as the axomite or the axon the kingdoms of aksum and he taken over so and then what he was doing is he was expanding north and maybe taking back booty or take yeah you know you can't use these words nowadays so he's maybe he was just going to expand on war spoils or so he goes for as far he goes to places like paris which isn't too far from makkah

now when he's in tatif he hears that there is another place called makkah but makkah was a a very insignificant settlement compared to the hijaz it was not a major settlement of arabia so he didn't know where makkah is he just like he heard from some people by the way since you because abraham himself was a christian i believe so now he when he was in tatif he obviously that they had like a ka'ba thing there as well i believe the thought if one was dedicated to

if i'm correct i believe it was to russa but they had this big block in taif as well so they tell him that there's this you know worship place not too far from here so he doesn't know where he is so he makes a plan that i will go there and destroy it and and that's where he is setting up his armies but he's got elephants and they they there's a settlement in that if but whilst this is happening the elephants and and that kind of uh the whole cavalry that he's brought brought with him they are disturbing the local habitat of if

has all this natural habitat you see and what it's doing is it's impacting the the birds the trees all these the presence of elephants it's disturbing them and from here these particular uh small birds that i do mention in my clip which ones they most likely were the ababil in english what they do is they build nests with these little kind of pellets they kind of uh use that even today to kind of make their nests now they because of the disturbance are dropping them and this is it's from here that

you get an infestation of smallpox and that infects the soldiers so by the time abraham does decide to leave his army is in not in a good state and he then asks he doesn't know where makkah is and he finds someone called who who he pays and he tells him well makkah's in this direction so as they're getting ready to go off his army many of them completely they've developed all these boils and they start to kind of like collapse and and he feels that something is cursed the whole thing because his army are

just dying around him so he retreats and just retreats all together just about with his life that is the the story of um you know kind of corn or eaten crops the way you see the corn kind of being eaten up um you will that's what they look like with these boils they didn't actually reach makkah and the famous statement

of um that they say uh that was said um in mecca by the the by by the grandfather of the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam that you know that the bait has a lord who will protect it i personally feel that he may have said this when he heard that abraha is in ta'if and he's making plans to come not that he said this to abraham because the story later develops into

abraham must have reached mecca and then he says it to him i i don't believe that that's what happened that's my take on that okay hope that helps right shamrow's thoughts on the a-level controversy yep i've just covered that muhammad ali were you dating the head teacher [Laughter] when i was out of school

no i was not dating the head teacher in uh different schools where i was uh on many occasions they were men and it's not quite uh i no quite swing in that direction you know so right hedorah headers mufti what's your thoughts on zaman he says he disagrees with you on many things what's your views of him

right yeah i i i i like muftiliar i think he's uh in his own way a great person not you see i don't like necessarily the dio bundy way of thinking because it's a the obundi way of thinking is just a cult okay it's a very close-minded cult behavior there's nothing uh enlightened about it there's a lot of knowledge there don't get me wrong like they memorize things and you know do everything and according to section a this is

but it's all a cult and you're not allowed to ever disagree you're not allowed to do this one must abide by the cults laws at all time um that said muthiliaka is actually to some extent a bit of a rebel in his own in his own sect if you like so he does has challenged he has the courage to do things on social media and he's been actually uh within his own circles named and shamed by the diobandis who have hated on him they've tried to compromise his job they've tried to

you know contact he works for i know with shaykh sahidah so far they've tried to say how can he be on social media he used to do social media kind of q and a's where he wouldn't wear his hat sometimes so people started saying how dare he not have a hat on and all of this kind of stuff so they cause him a lot of stress and he is very chilled out and i know that i mean this is what i i have a lot of respect for him as an uh as in you know as an imam as a mufti i respect him um and and he's somebody who

you know despite me being very different to him on many views as far as i'm aware he would be very respectful still you know he's somebody that i'm sure obviously i'm in my own kind of things and he's doing his own things but if like let's say for example if we were to say i know let's sit down have a meal i don't think as far as i'm aware he would be more you know he wouldn't object he would be happy to kind of socialize to kind of sit chill talk even if he disagrees with you you know he has that maturity and i really respect that about him

so yeah that's my views on him right no volume on the vids oh that's a shame right so um right check your facebook messages let me just switch off from uh the live i'm on and go check your facebook messages

so what's going down wow you follow from america macau i don't know what that's on about uh mufti no audio on the videos no way guess so you know what i'm gonna check why that isn't because it doesn't make any sense it should be i can see let me see

seems to be picking it up fine there seems to be movement on the equalizers so i don't know why you're saying that any video you play has no volume uh capil shukran can you bring shaykh zahir mahmud on mind trap i would love to but uh but i don't think shaykh zahir would come on mine trap to be honest with you i think you see my understanding is that i think zaheer saab who i respect i have respect for him

um and it's saying it's very it's just low uh right so the um yeah you know with shifts here i feel that he for what i mean there may be multiple reasons maybe because he personally disagrees with me i also feel it's more so because of like a political decision that let's say because he runs an institute and he's part of the see dubundi ubunti's are a cult at the end of the day and there's a lot of pressure for him to

boycott anybody who they say you must boycott so i know in the past he had a lot of pressure to kind of openly write a facebook post against me which he refused to do and then in the end he just said look stop trying to bully me about writing a post against you know mao mufti abu i don't meet him anyway and so i feel that's the thing now because of that unfortunately i haven't really met shay zaheed for years now i haven't met him and i one could just be because we're busy and we don't really cross paths

anymore but i feel that there is somewhat of a conscious decision as well on sheikh zahid's part that he doesn't really want to meet me because he's more worried about like the backlash that he would get like let's say if he he came and met me or we met at a place and we chilled out and let's say somebody take puts it on instagram or they put it on now he would get a lot of slack and people tell him off and um you know and he's not allowed to be hanging around with deviants and so i think it's in his world it's easier to just you know it's not worth it like because it's not like i'm

a close friend anyway so you know why should he kind of go out of his way and jeopardize stick his neck out by hanging out or something i mean i think to be fair i think it's it's petty childish i think abiding by these politics is childish um i think the whole thing is is very uh it's disappointing it's not what you expect from community imams you know leaders but i mean it is what it is you know the these it's not just shay saheed all of them they abide so much by the kind of

group politics they're not like um allowed to think out of the box they don't have permission and if they do their own teachers will kind of boycott them imminently and then they will you know they won't be able to give speeches in any of their masks they won't be able to and remember these people are not people who built their platform on social media they're people who built their platforms in masjids so for them if the masjids get taken away from them then they're like well you know i don't have they don't have independent followings they only have followings who are the open these from that

cult so you know if you disappoint the cult there goes your bread and butter [Laughter] so this is what my i always advise people don't you know when you're growing don't try to outgrow and diversify your audience it may be slower but it will be a more stable kind of audience you have in the end kapil says we need a lot of sex not sex

right now people avoid the bad language in the comments right right so what is going on ask a is this what you think my mind trap is seriously do you think it's that like uh my mind trap is to allow people to grow in their thinking to kind of see discussions sometimes look i can't always promise what a particular session will turn out like

but it's just to to engage with people on intellectual kind of thoughts must be why these chefs don't like you so come on do you really have to ask that question so yeah why they don't like me look at me this is why they don't like me no i mean you know look i give these people an easy excuse because of the way i look but truth be told even if i didn't look like this they would still

reject me it's like look chester here for example we were speaking about when he dioband scholar he's not allowed to publicly like any brilliant scholar he could never praise publicly abrilvi scholar like truly praise him or kind of hang out with him and they are accepted in their communities and you okay i might look like a rebel but you could take somebody like shaykh you know he definitely looks fits the part of an of an imam you know hermetic imam like quite a hermit actually so you know there's nothing wrong with

you couldn't or you could take any of the the kind of sufi bravi imams and they they are respected in their communities long beards with the imams but the theobundies ain't allowed to hang out with them and vice versa they're not allowed to hang out with the dio bundys either because says mufti can you give us the source of hadith your video that you want talked about the source the video is my reply to abu ibrahim if you go to my

refutation playlist and it's the one where i respond to abu ibrahim will you debate sam shamoon right smarks kilray look i'm not interested in debates i am interested in discussions okay now i've seen i don't know i haven't seen that much but i just saw that day i i was on a mind trap you know my voice is constantly kind of cracking in these past ah god so i got a couple of comments saying look

uh will you go on david woods live so i thought why not let's go so i went on his live and i thought i could just join in and i said something and there was he had some mufti on the uh who looked a bit like zakir naik i don't know who he was it wasn't zak and mike though and he had this guy sam shamoon now i've never heard of sam shimon before that but i saw him there and he's like oh muffy and david wood saw my comment and said well look muffy you know you can't just come on it's a uh pre-scheduled kind of thing maybe in the future we could do something and he was very respectful to be fair now you know from that perspective i respect that

and sam was like i offer him to a debate you know i'll debate him you know this one this one i debate this one i challenge him you know you know this kind of loud debating style you know this is not my style right i am totally not interested in this kind of or this kind of uh chest thumping are going to prove christianity but if you if somebody wants an intelligent conversation i will have an intelligent conversation with them i'm more than happy

you see to me i'm not interested with these people like they their discussion is from what i gathered the discussion is how islam you know the whole thing about islam and christianity trinity and see i would say my point is look to them forget about islam because obviously to you islam is wrong anyway i could understand if you were to argue all religions are wrong i could understand where you're coming from because you'd actually make you know at least you'd have consistency in your argument

but if you're gonna say that well islam is just wrong but really christianity is right then okay i take it the objective to this is you're trying to say why should we all today be christians cool i'm you know if there's an intelligent discussion on that if somebody can con convince me how this narrative of why christianity makes sense of god sending his son to redeem people from this evil world that god created by sending his son let's say himself sorry

himself manifesting as the avatar getting beaten up by people getting tortured allegedly because really god still ain't getting tortured but these people but the avatars aren't then dying to redeem the sins of mankind but yet mankind is carry on sinning uh and that's god's great plan like this is the god who created the cosmos and set mathematics into everything and uh did you know with all this like majestic sophistication this was his great plan for salvation that what we're gonna do is right

humans have really screwed this up so what i'm gonna do is i'm gonna be born and i will go and get battered when i felt a bit of pain that telotique i've suffered on your behalf now you can uh rest assured that you guys are saved but you save with the condition so long as you say i'm the one that saved you oh god [Laughter] you know that's god's intelligence then

i think we've got a problem people [Laughter] so in all honesty if that's what you know you these people want to present that like that because i'm not interested in speaking about islam with these people like they to them islam is a waste of time and to me the argument would make sense if they are saying all religions are a waste of time it wouldn't make sense because you're trying to say well the superstition or this this or this that but to say one religion and especially when the religions are related you know it's like to say christianity is dumb but judaism is so

awesome or islam is dumb but christianity is so awesome this is so stupid because it's it's fundamentally just very similar kind of things with different ideas and christianity has so many kind of the weights presented today and for centuries has so many kind of like dumb down perspectives to it like this that this is god's great plan to save people this you know this kind of like uh sado masochistic plan of i gotta get beat up and what is the purpose behind this is so people know i suffered

but did god suffer no but [Laughter] [Applause] this is why people this is why people leave christianity in flood loads because it doesn't make any sense you know so but i'm not saying none of christianity makes sense just to be clear there's many things in christianity that make absolute sense but they will be just as in all religions but there's these kind of fundamental truths that they claim which are

problematic so if somebody wanted an intelligent conversation with me to prove this to because this is the biggest claim of christianity it rests on this bedrock that all it rests on is the fact that god sent his himself as his own son manifested as an avatar to save mankind by getting beat up and thereby suffering the avatar suffering not god but this somehow um in a sado masochistic way now forgave everybody's sins it doesn't matter

so you know you could be a serial killer pedophile murderer psychopath but just before dying you say i accept jesus christ you know got battered because of me and there you go bless you you're on your way to paradise [Laughter] if somebody can explain that to me i'm more than happy to engage in that dialogue okay so other than that i'm not interested in debating bukhari said this this said this this said that these people don't really believe in

islam anyway and that isn't the purpose um for for these people having these discussions and you know what's interesting is i watched somebody sent me a clip of david wood an apostate prophet and david wood said that i'm uh and this was public i mean it's on youtube he said that look i like um he said i like uh people like muhammad hijab this this kind of chest thumping oh angry giant muslim who is angry

and hell intimidating and bullying this thug because he said that i really wish that people like that become the representatives of islam because they're so easy to show as a kind of villain to christians and to other people that look and he says in that clip it's on youtube he's having a discussion with apostate prophet he says that the likes of other he said people like dr shabir ali and this kind they no good because they kind of very diplomatic and polite and you know they don't get angry they don't like they

he says that they don't represent that angry muslim so arguing with them just makes you look like the body or it makes them look like decent people even if you don't look at like the body but you they look like you know a decent person so his point was we should make we should pray and hope so not pray but we should hope that the likes of ali tawa the likes of muhammad hijab reach the pinnacle and become representative absolutely of mainstream islam because he said that they will destroy islam from within and he gave the example of

yasar khadi he said yasir khadi was one of these and he has done more damage to islam in recent times than all atheists ex-muslims christians have done collectively so yeah and this is their strategy people and look i personally i you know respect david woods personally from i haven't watched so many of his things from what i have seen of him he's been very respectful to me i respect him for that i understand look he's a christian he wants to present his worldview i i ain't going to hate on him for that i you know more power to you i mean you know you

believe in that presenter absolutely and i get it that look this is a game ultimately it's a strategy so the way you will take people out you know everybody does that i mean that's you know it's you know it's all fair i guess in you know in these kind of things so i have that respect i understand what you're trying to do um but yeah but these kind of angry oh let's get into a debate and prove islam is the word of this a waste of time you know what am i going to prove to someone but yeah i'm happy for them to explain to me

i would take great pleasure in learning right so you know that uh reminds me i want to speak about uh muhammad hijab and ali dawa and the entanglement you know this entanglement this you know like jada and the entanglement with the ex-muslims but before we get to that following on from this discussion of um you know you've got uh david woods what he was saying this is an example of uh

muhammad hijab this is him speaking to people who are having doubts i take it you can hear the sound can can you guys hear the volume the equalizer seems to be showing it as as good volume is low

again somebody says the volume is low again wait there let me see what the volume is low again doesn't make any sense yeah media source that's high uh hmm video sound is very low that's no good see this hasn't happened before let me see quickly if i can pick something video capture

alert box media source if i go on to let me just check on my mentor if i be a man be a man i don't get it why that is i'm trying to see let me see

browse the source ah right okay is it something to do with this i've never done that troll audio via okay let's check if this helps i don't know if you guys can

hmm i don't know if you guys can what's going on with the sound today via the mic you guys are hearing hmm that's a shame because i've got a few clips to show you no sound okay um this one not nice my friend this one

let me uh switch this off emails brother i have doubts what counts man what embarrassment is that why a thousand why to tell me now if you find any manuscript in the whole wide world in the whole wide world where you find

me a thinking generation which goes against the quran what does it do for me nothing if the heart possibly was abraded possibly for us what what's the problem i don't understand why you have doubts what kind of man are you anyway what kind of woman are you what kind of muslim are you what kind of muslim are you let's be honest about the situation fourteen thousand that one's heart and that one's minded this one's so iron man this is all in our tradition we have a chain of narration yes we have a chain of narration tell me now how an orientalist has any argument against the quran

so this is all of you i'm shaking

would be very scary there the christians how dead talk about preservation it actually makes me angry listen to what he said not as stupid running around the streets because i'm talking nonsense no chain don't speak to me don't speak about islam don't open your mouth don't ever open your mouth you have no change and a lot of you are losing faith and you shouldn't other christians are undistracted

lose faith i tell you lose faith it's better for you because it's the nonsense you have no change narration no change and you're comparing with all audacity because of the ignorance of the muslim community and the weakness of the leaders you are comparing your method of reservation with us you are deceived and self-deluded affects your jokers your imbeciles how then you talk about the quran basilic individuals were going to beat each other up because they

[Laughter] our fault wow wow wow you see so that's um [Laughter] wow so that's muhammad hijab i mean this whole angry you know why are you doubting in islam you weakling listen your little boy

you were never a true muslim to begin with it's better that you just lose your iman [Laughter] what is happening to muhammad hijab i honestly don't know because you see i you know muhammad hijab is an intelligent person he's definitely intelligent you can't it's not like he's he's dumb he's i mean there's other people who are just dumb but he's not he's intelligent um he's obviously very capable you know he memorizes things he learns things

but yeah what is this what is going on what there's some serious anger issues here there's a lot of unresolved what the hell was that about that you've you're having doubts you're having doubts you know boy you never had faith boy it's better for you to lose your faith look faith doubt is an integral part of faith

okay don't uh you know buy this you know let me tell you something people it is counterintuitive there the assumption that iman works like this people assume iman works from um you know like you you start from frailty and you end up with this certainty like you start with this kind of weakness doubt skepticism questions and you end up with this oh oh you're clean like oh there's nothing and it's actually the other way round

you see what will happen is people will often have a very certain attitude towards things because they've not questioned it as they start to question they will then get riddled with doubts questions now they will you know through this journey they will resolve many questions but what they will end up with will be a much more agile entity but ironically more stable it will be because if it doesn't you see if it doesn't waver with

the kind of the the you know the the kind of doubts that push it make its way if it doesn't sway it will just collapse that is how faith works so people who often have this amazing apparent certainty the way that i've never had doubts and oh i says more clear to me than the day and these people are maybe either just super exceptional human beings or most likely they are people who just never truly questioned what they believe and

and most people that do question will always have some doubts but that's okay to have doubts you know the prophet sallallahu alaihi said in hadith that ibrahim had doubts he said that for us to have doubts it's it's we are more deserving than abraham and the companions you would claim that we doubt things sometimes in certain ways that we can't say them to you you know we have certain thoughts at times and the prophet said

that is that is real iman real faith everything else is just a facade you know this so you don't need to really be so angry or insecure at people having doubts and questions and yeah so that's the uh yeah so that's that's i just want to shift that clip that was hilarious but uh there was uh on that note there was also with ali that one you see because these people because they're becoming the voice pieces of islam

and they're massively popular i mean people give uh alidawah and muhammad hijab so much you know they'll give them the absolute time of day and these people even though they're not like they have by the way they get targeted surprisingly i don't used to know this but they get targeted by selfies they're targeting them it's like it's crazy politics going on so but these people are not i suppose in some views as wacko as some selfies but they're not people who are behind the voice of reason

so they're not about the voice of reason either at all that's not the that's not on the agenda so they will stand stubbornly against certain things and they will just promote them and an example of that was this clip of um if i if you see here look this is an example can you guys can you see that i i i take it you can hear now i did do something with the sound somebody said we cannot hear the videos

can you not hear okay these videos i did change the setting just a moment ago like like look at this this is real world stuff people [Applause]

oh here ali dawa is having a discussion about the age of consent and and he gives the example of being happy to marry his own daughter off

and i apologize for this being very disturbing because this this is very disturbing i don't know how you check whether your daughter is sexually mature for marriage i don't even know

what that question means is

i know this is the nonsense people um this is the nonsense okay sound of alidahwa is too low somebody's saying i did alter something with the the settings by the way so it's difficult now to um people are saying it's fine they can hear it right now you see in the beginning of that clip

if you saw the beginning they asked this person in hyde park that whether he would have sex with a nine-year-old and he responds by saying if he would marry and have sex people are saying they still can't hear the sound in the videos okay that's so let me see let me if you can hear this right so this is the all right now this

so that part where the person says um that this is what you know would you with the nine year he says not with a six but with a nine year old i mean these people do you know i don't honestly words fail me and this is the problem um people saying right i don't know right people this conf mix things about whether they can hear it or not so i'm just leaving it with that you can hear it right now this this seems to be very clearly mixed um

mixed perspectives on on on what they you know whether they're just absolute nuts or are they just so stubbornly defending a ruling that they believe they have to defend which is about the age of aisha which by the way all they have to do is just intelligently realize and just denounce it they know there's no way that that's actually genuine but you know this is the problem it comes back to that cult see even though i said earlier on they get targeted by some selfies they are still wahhabis themselves salafis

and they are part of a certain structure and order if they go against that they will lose that support from saudi arabia and these different you know the the general wahhabi wing of supporters they will lose them if they go against that so they're not prepared to compromise and then what you get is this reactionary bravado that it doesn't matter well so what you know yes we do it we are muslims and what yeah so that's and these the problem is that these people become representative of mainstream islam uh people will have no qualms

in supporting somebody and they will even find excuses for them like they will say well it doesn't matter you know he said this you know it's okay you know it doesn't matter um you know so god god help us i mean that is uh a huge uh problem really i was just yeah so recently i did i can't remember where i put the right so as and what happened was recently there's been a further entanglement between these guys and um

and some ex-muslims so what's been happening is muhammad hijab has been going back and forth with apostate prophet who he calls apus [Laughter] on twitter now i don't really use twitter much maybe i should but i mean i'm on twitter but i don't use it as much but uh i did see one or two of the things and and it went you know back forth back forth and what muhammad hijab is doing is he's just saying look since you don't believe in objective morality would it be okay if um

he says if your husband said to you and this is what he's doing is he's asking questions to uh a a apostate prophet his uh his wife so uh his wife is apparently also on twitter who's active and according to them she's an islamophobe i don't know i don't even know who she is but uh he's addressing her saying i'd like to ask i'd like to ask you an important question an ethical question if your husband was to ask you that he would like since he doesn't have moral objectivity if he was to say he would like to have sexual relationship with his own brother

would you a agree be you know he comes up with these things like b would you join in or c would you recommend a different uh family member eg his dad this is so dumb but then you see now to be fair right if he just did one or two of these things and you'd think well right but he has been going on non-stop and i think he's still going until today um so right now

that a couple of days ago i went on to twitter somebody sent it to me and i saw his clip oh sorry i saw this particular post muhammad hijab had made now i want to clarify this i had made a comment on that post later on i saw how it could be mis construed because because muhammad hijab continued to write so many more tweets after that so i kind of removed my comment but what i was saying is that he made a point where muhammad hijab said and i have got this in fact let me bring it up for you guys

if i can right here is right so here it is now muhammad hijab says look since the uneducated online apostate is happy to insult the prophet muhammad on his physical appearance in the name of freedom of speech and is triggered at the prospect of someone insulting his loved one in the same way any other way why do you throw stones now i want to say to this that look

that in many ways i at this particular point of uh muhammad hijab i agree that that point is technically a fair point i i don't agree with this style i do not endorse what muhammad hijab is doing i do not support that methodology in fact i was just a few minutes ago showing his own his video clip that how you know what this is such a silly approach it is so you know the shouting chest beating having no listen boy you got no

uh this angry approach is so removed from the prophet's character and from islam and i can i condemn that kind of approach because i feel that that just damages islam now an ali dawa and his thing which i clearly condemn but there is a point here which i accept that look if there have been people like ap apostate prophet has have had a very kind of um insulting attitude towards islam

now you know not all ex-muslims are like that like there's some who are incredibly pleasant generally like they might be occasionally sarcastic like vidu vids you know he he he openly doesn't believe in islam he will question things very polite diplomatic or you know just a well-mannered person he's not like uh you know he doesn't come across uh in any kind of pernicious or malignant kind of way he's just comes across as a genuine person who doesn't accept islam but he's happy to have a conversation with you

about it now apostate prophet however and some ex-muslims can come across as just insulting islam and is some islamophobes they will just insult and they will say things so here in that particular tweet muhammad hijab shares a little um some post where they are describing the prophet as being ugly and saying that look he's got some kind of skin tag and hahahahaha like what an ugly person and then he's uh convincing people that this is some kind of uh um sign of prophethood

now i just want to say that look to all ex-muslims to all people who want islam critics or anybody that look keep it intellectual that's what i would advise i mean you don't need to listen to my advice i don't mean anything uh you know my words don't mean anything to you but this is my advice keep it intelligent you know why because the audience who you are criticizing most of them are just emotional anyway like they're not a rational audience most of them so the moment you turn this

into an insult slinging thing they will take it ten times lower so you can't then kind of start saying oh why are you insulting me because if you're happy to insult now i that's not my style look i do satirize okay i do take the mick out of things maybe occasionally one could say i have mocked appearances i do give names which are funny to people and i do stuff like that now my thing is usually to show the

objective is to show why this is silly but along the way i will satirize it i will you know take the mick out of what's being said and then by doing so i forfeit the right that if they were to take the mick out of what i do or take the mick out of my kind of things or my views and take the mick out of me in that sense i forfeit the right to to throw a [ __ ] fit and be all like oh this is like how do you kind of like do this to me because i'm doing it i i have to kind of just own that that look when i do things i kind of uh i do a masala segment sometimes i call shaykh

i belong and i do all of these now if he starts saying something about a and starts like he did like mufti majin he used to say this this kind of like margin is uh is somebody that's like a joker or something in arabic or um or a kind of like a jester like that in in the olden days somebody that's useless let's say now and he says oh this mufti margin now i can't i can't be offended by that because look this works both ways i have to own that fair enough i mean it doesn't bother me that he says that but if it did bother me tough luck you know because i i'm doing

that as well i'm saying i'm doing all these kind of things so i can't play that game i can't play that card of just getting all sensitive so when these ex-muslims or these islamophobes or islam critics or whoever they are they criticize islam if they sink to the level of just making it emotional about insults then you know this is what's going to happen now right so i would say that right we've just had a comment here by apostate prophet

saying you have a false impression of meme of the i don't just insult muhammad i criticize islam but engage in relevant mockery um they only harass people i can clarify if you want to talk sure i mean i will talk that's that's and shukran for coming on i'm for the super chat uh i look all i'm saying is there have been things that have been like i just saw this particular comment where he had shared something saying um you know look at the prophet this skin thing this ugly thing or whatever it is and and my point is look it doesn't offend me i'm gonna be honest with you you could a person could say

whatever they want to say to me it doesn't offend me but i know that the crowd of muslims that are following you guys following apostate prophet following they are the kind that you know to them that is just clearly you're just insulting now they will insult back now that was my point where i said that look okay it's not my thing it's not my style but that's a fair point that if you want to insult if you want to throw stones you know but if you live in glass houses you know stones glass houses that paradigm that said i did see that muhammad hijab

kind of just wouldn't stop it's like there's no stop button and i i logged in yesterday or yesterday night actually and he had been going on up until yesterday uh probably still going on now like his wife and apostate prophet's wife and uh i don't know some other people's wives abdullah samir's wife i think abdullah sameer is is also as far as i'm from my interaction with him is a very uh like a very gentle person you know from my interaction with with him from what i've seen of his videos he doesn't come across

as somebody uh trying to even be funny about islam he doesn't even as far i mean i haven't watched all these videos or anything so in case somebody says look here's a video but from what i've seen but in saying look here's abdullah sameer's wife or here's this and i find this absolutely unacceptable so i did remove that comment because it might give a misunderstanding that i'm supporting all of this i'm not but i would say that look these people are like this um and they don't have a stop and they thrive off this unfortunately you know they thrive off this kind of like

uh this mudslinging so i would always say that keep things if possible as intellectual as possible trying to show look if you said to me look this is what islam says that doesn't make any sense you know isn't that silly isn't that dumb to say something like this because wouldn't you blah blah blah blah blah i think fair play because look at the end of the day this is what you are trying to do is show your world view and showing that look isn't that silly and it is my job as a muslim to answer you not to insult you you know by insulting you

i just prove that islam is dumb then or i mean even though i don't prove it but i prove that muslims are dumb because if your claim is hey isn't islam silly for saying this and aren't you you know for thereby just following being silly for following something silly now if i just react by trying to say oh let me curse your wife and let me curse your mom and let me curse you this then i'm just endorsing that which you know is equally that's as it's just it just proves the point so i do agree that these people have are out of character i mean not out of character

sorry they out of order i don't agree with them but i did agree with that one point although i think to be fair to be fair i think um muhammad hijab uh even if he didn't make that point he does have a very kind of like a bully approach to him he doesn't and that was even from that clip i played about muslims asking him that they have doubts there's a very kind of like a shouting angry like i'll shout at you and i'll tell you off and intimidate you kind of approach so it's clear that it doesn't really matter whether you're following a methodology it's just he's out there to kind of

oh you know the angry aggressive approach so i i mean that's that was my point i know i couldn't clarify this i did try on twitter to go back and forth some people started saying oh see mufti is a closet closet follower of muhammad hijab and you know all muslims are the same they're all extremists and they're all you know i do not agree at all and i do condemn what he's doing but my simple point was that look if you engage in insults just remember that like i give an example i

look my interactions with several people have always been respectful uh with people who are islam critics mostly and they've been mostly respectful with me so but there was a time and i mentioned this on my monday nights at the time there was this burning of the quran incident in norway and i did mention that look someone said uh at the time that you know i'm so angry with what they're doing the muslims as a reaction now what i'm gonna do is i'm gonna rip the pages of the quran on a live stream and i'm gonna i'm gonna smoke smoke it as a joint

live stream this now look like that is like you have to under and i said this at that time you have to understand that you see when you say things like this because normally we wouldn't do that with any like look i've got a book here this is just a book in spanish just to learn spanish it's not like uh you know it's written by juan fernandez excellent teacher by the way if you're trying to study spanish but if i was to say hey juan what i'm gonna do is i'm gonna come live stream and i'm gonna rip pages out of your book and i'm gonna smoke them as a joint or even if i said this about harry potter

it would sound very like like very kind of like neanderthal attitude and it gave man attitude now what would you think of scripture like you know sacred scripture to people look i as a muslim do not believe in the guru granth sahib of sikhs i would never in my wildest dreams dare to even think that i would disrespect the guru grantham even though i don't believe in him because i know look how sacred they treat it like they don't even they're not even allowed to touch the guru grantham

generally only the you know those people who are authorized to do so can touch it and read it the common people can't even touch it it's that holy it's like serious stuff you know when i used to i said today i used to teach re i remember where professor dr michael grimmett was our professor one of our professors and he said when we were doing our res uh when talking about symbols and he said well there was a point where you know he gave us this lecture on hot stuff and he said like and he brought out this box which had religious artifacts in it and he said you know when you're going to teach religion in school he said this stuff is

hot stuff like the symbols like always treat them with respect like if you're going to take out the jewish thing if you're going to take out you know some hindu statues if you're going to take out the quran if you're going to take out the torah he said that look regardless of whether you there's there is an ummah he never used that word though but there is an ummah that holds that to be sacred so at the very least when you're gonna teach about it or talk about it i'm not saying people need to be this sacred towards everything

but what i'm saying is they definitely shouldn't be committing sacrilege that's the opposite you know but i would be personally because that's how i was taught i would be very i would treat these things very you know with immense respect even if i did not believe in them because i know that that's that's what islam would teach me that you you know that these people have so much respect for it you have respect for it you understand and this is this is like the hadith and when the jewish lady was going the prophet stood up stood up out of sanctity

and one they said it's a woman and it's a jewish woman you know represented judaism in that the prophet said is it not enough is it not a soul of god and teaching us that we need to show respect so yeah so my point is that look just be careful because look when you're gonna deal with and i get that sometimes you can't avoid it because you're gonna obviously you're criticizing islam so you're gonna be criticizing certain things which are sacred and i get that and i'm not against criticizing but i'm just saying that be careful because the people you're dealing with

are you know many of them not all of them but many amongst them are on proper jungling mode they they go by i don't know if you're familiar with the term jungling yeah they don't they don't know any bounds you know and you give them one excuse they just gonna open the floodgates and you'll be like you know you won't be able to kind of like stop it then but i do hope that muhammad hijab kind of backs off and stops these kind of insults people's wives and things like this and yeah and it makes you know it just

really does what david wood said that you know it does them proud by showing that look this is how muslim leaders are yeah cool people right and somebody said musty bullet you're being a hypocrite because you block people who take the mick out of you yeah there's no look there's no harm in blocking i don't [Laughter] why is that being a hypocrite look just because make out of people uh doesn't mean i want to hear them take the mick or carry on insulting me but sure they have the right to do it it doesn't mean i have to go out of my

way to listen to it [Laughter] freedom are your free thinking free thinking rules you thought just because they have the right to do it i need to listen to it all the time a few were you dropped as a child on your head [Laughter] free thinking right so let's move on people let's move on right

mufti please check your facebook messages please how the hell do i check my facebook messages here [Laughter] you want me to log out of this is that what you want right so abulais for president you're doing it people you're doing it if i become president even though the uk doesn't have a president but tk guys we're going from scandal to scandal what the hell is going on here um what is the difference between

a prophet and a messenger that's an interesting question because this seems to be a distinction now people flip them on their heads some people say that uh that a a prophet is somebody and i seem to go with this but i um you know some people have asked i would feel that the term profit was generic and messenger was specific some people flip it the other way you know it's called in arabic they say uh about okay so you have um something which is harm

which is generic and so it has um some specificity so if i it's like saying you know every engineer is a university graduate but not every university graduate is an engineer so in that sense like you have every nubby would be a rasool and not but not every result no sorry what am i saying uh every rasool is a nubby but not every nubby is a rasool but i don't think these terms are so

strictly uh i think they're just guidelines and by messenger it would be somebody who had a resale a message that message may have been substantially different to the prophets of that region where he was sent or she was sent so i would believe that maryam alaihissalam was a prophet i would believe that the sister of moses uh was a prophet uh the you know people like this in the quran that allah speaks of uh speaks to

inspires like that i would think they were prophets but um you know they wouldn't have been messengers that brought any kind of a kind of substantial message in that sense but that's my but i don't think that this and some people flip it the other way so but i don't think it's a big deal somebody sent a superchat pietro de brasa pietro alright peter thoughts on ibrahimovic

[Laughter] how do i respond to that thoughts on him reciting i'm not so sure he rejected fatiha i've not heard of that really to be honest i've heard do you mean like the ma'awatatein is popular hmm there's different interpretations on why some companions um rejected certain verses they thought that they were as the prophet was teaching

and not necessarily the quran itself now to be fair dr shazad saleem has a very good chapter dedicated to our abdullah musl and that which was found and for example in ibn nadeem's fairest and in other places and and the discrepancies he speaks about in all the surahs and of and these different people and what is the outcome and his conclusion he kind of comes to the understanding that maybe it's

not so clear that he does reject it in that sense but maybe he did question certain things and and that's so his point was that it appears because when you look at all the ahadith and the different transmissions and the different kind of manuscripts and documentation so when people are writing about like what his must have had so there's disagreements but they do show that there's discrepancies between his must-have and the must-have of other people but did he completely reject them with attain

so even though that is popular popularized he shows and argues that it may that it doesn't seem to stand the test of you know it doesn't seem to carry the burden of proof with it some people have made this claim but where is it and he seems to argue that some indications of certain people who knew ibn massoud and what they transmit from him is that he's questioning the kul because kul is speak

and when it's saying that should this just be aw audible as opposed to and that when he rejects the two wholes in that place does kul here mean the word or does it mean the surah like so some people say alhamdulillah so in a hadith it mentions that

when a person begins salaam says alhamdulillah recites alhamdulillah here alhamdulillah is denoting the surah alhamdulillah but it's a word which denotes the entire surah so now it's not called surah alhamdulillah but if i said and then he recites alhamdulillah so if people say you know and then he recites the kul which is kul so the question being does he reject the kul the two kul's or does he reject the whole surah so what dr shazad is

arguing in his book is that he is rejecting just the the words not the entire surah um and it's a very fascinating in-depth discussion that he has in his book do uh get hold of it if you can it's called a critical um what is it a um a critical study on the compilation of the quran or something but dr saleem you you can and it is quite interesting definitely

[Laughter] right so nine year old was engaged before murray yeah look i've got a detailed video on the age of aisha aisha anhar was in her late teens she was not i repeat not [Laughter] in her early ages and this was most likely made up by

the the kind of great nephew is that how we yeah because uh urwa is her nephew and then this is the son of urwa yeah it's most likely made up by hisham who makes it up in iraq when he goes back to iraq because of the the kind of shia narrative in iraq at the time and there are a lot of things that are made up and it's quite interesting um because the shia at the time and they have um

you see they they obviously very anti-aisha radio because of the stance that she takes against ali and and many things you know there's many other things as well but that's one of the key things they also believe that she always held a grudge against ali and um which i don't know may or may not be true maybe she didn't you know she felt something which i think if that's the case there's nothing wrong with that because that's just a human thing you know because what they're saying is that um but i don't believe that's true though to be you know recently my thought paradigm let me share

some of my thoughts with you they've really been kind of challenged a lot you know and i've been thinking back and forth i've been discussing with certain um uh professors certain uh people islamic scholars and amongst them ustada female scholar yes mean amin incredibly an amazing intellectual uh she's egyptian and german i think she's also at times in the uk or i or in america at times i but she's

english-speaking as well so i know she's in between america and europe and um and of some whatever senior age as in in her 50s an incredibly enlightened figure honestly i just been amazed in my conversations with her um been really so thought provoking and i've been looking up so many of these things and but uh but yeah i mean coming but i'll come to this in just a moment some of these discussions but coming back to that about hashem you see hashem when he goes to kufa

he sees all of this that's going on with against aisha and aisha lends legitimacy to him as well because aisha is she kind of indirectly rubber stamps the zubairi dynasty or the zubaid perspective which is because you have to remember that zubair is you know he's going to be and by zubail it's not so much about zavadavana but his son abdullah zubaid who is the nephew because his mother is the sister of aisha

now he establishes a rulership uh he he sets up his khilafah in makkah he rivals bani umayya and is successful for the most part until he's unfortunately crushed by hajjajim yusuf in 71 history now but he is successful prior to that and he is trying to spread his whole narrative his perspective and part of what would support that and even after you have to remember that that he did rule over a portion of iraq he sent his brother to basra musab and

and over various parts of the muslim world they gave more allegiance to him than they did to the umayyads until they kind of conquered back now even then there were people amongst them and then you have to remember there's a clash because kufa is a hotbed of the shia yeah now you have the um narrative which is very anti-shia and then you have the shia narrative which is very anti-bani umayya absolutely like they're both bitter hateful then you do have a third narrative on history and that is the zubairi narrative you see because the zubaid

coming down from zubaida abdullah ibn zubair and that kind of thing is neither shii and they are dignified and respected within islamic sources so when the abbasids come into power in 131 hijri you see for them to endorse what narratives do they endorse because if i become now the you know the main guy and i have to endorse some versions of history [Laughter] who do i endorse do i endorse the umui i can't endorse the umui because we just if i'm the abbasid let's say i'm

mansoor um i ain't gonna support the umui because they i'm anti them do i support the sheer a narrative because the other sides were part of the shia but the problem is if i go full out on the shiite narrative then the fatimine and the halloween are more deserving of it than me the abbasian because if i start saying it's all about the family or the prophet the lineage of the prophet the holy bloodline sangria you know the holy grail this is what it's about the holy uh then people will say but wait a

minute you're from the offspring of abbas these people are from the offspring of ali and from fatima they are more deserving based on your narrative of history so what is a slightly neutral narrative that is this awaited narrative and so it's and this is why i feel this weighted narrative also gains more credence that's one of the reasons

so the sunnis allow that to prosper with that comes many things you see part of it will come to endorse as really because that's to kind of get back at the shia but it's also it it's you know it has another layer to it that it endorses disobedient people as well so when hisham narrates about aisha in some way he's kind of endorsing himself but he's also helping the abbasids and other people and the sunnis with a more neutral mainstream narrative

now and he's kind of slamming back at the shia so all of a sudden the hadith about aisha being the most virtuous and this was a fascinating discussion with the ustada yasmin and she really made me got me thinking actually so she was telling me in a discussion that um that who was from amongst the most favorite wives of the prophet and i thought well okay that's an interesting question not really i mean presumably people say aisha but in her studies you see this thing that that it's actually

not aisha she feels and i have to say after discussing with her i am now inclined to that understanding that it most likely appears to be um now um seems to kind of disappear from the muslim [Music] heritage like she she doesn't disappear entirely but she's eclipsed but when you look at the lifetime of the prophet sallam she seems to be one of those people who

the the prophet often valued immensely for her judgment she seems to be like a political advisor so on all of the battles the prophet always took her with him the prophet consults her whenever there was a difficult thing the prophet consults her and takes her advice and she seems to be obviously quite mature in age she seems to be somebody who the prophet is very um fond of in terms like he he really

especially of her opinion in things and he seems to dearly love her and i was just contemplating some of these narrations and it does seem to be like that actually and it seems that you see an interesting thing is if you look at the monarchy like in bukhari where they present there's a certain hadith which present what the virtues of the wives individually now all the virtues of our isha seem to be equally the virtues of um i think there's 17 or something but they all seem to be listed about um

and the interesting thing is that actually not that i know it's fluid about verses of the quran what they were revealed for but there were several verses that were revealed for um there were verses about her but not you know more about just exonerating her let's say if we're going with that but that's another interesting twist i want to come to um there are some verses that people say it's about aisha but they're critical towards eyeshadow now i was viewing this and i was thinking that is actually quite interesting and it does seem that there's like this

certain hadith where um aisha is very critical of um because of this and and i think she she kind of tries to criticize her and the prophet kind of tells aisha like don't but this was very fascinating and i feel that what happens is many of the hadith not many but especially several are fabricated uh to really boast bolster the position of aisha and that's double fold i mean part of it is to

come back at the shia hit back at them and then part of it is to endorse this vedic kind of narrative so there's a hadith for example which is absolutely absurd i mean it doesn't sound like anything the prophet would say um you know that and it's going through hisham from urwa that the prophet said this that he said that he says hey if if a man had had to lead his flock to to a pasture and he had a choice between a pasture that had been eaten from and a pasture that hadn't like with a tree like let's say there's some pasture and that hasn't been eaten from and that has

which should he go to and then aisha says i think she says i don't know she says you tell me so she either says it or the prophet endorses it or says it that yeah obviously the one that hasn't been eaten from and and then the prophet says oh and that's you and then she says i meaning that i was because i was the virgin and you think like what there's no way on earth that was a correct sahih hadith like that just wasn't like you just know that come on like that just does not you know

that doesn't make any sense that the prophet would have said something like that so but you can see why this may have been introduced though so um to kind of one like i said to to get back at the shia and then this claim that the shia were making that aisha was uh oh she was like lewd and of bad character and all these things and she was uh involved with um you know juvederm time uh before because she was looking forward to get married and they they implying that she was already having sexual relations with him prior to

getting married during her engagement um this is right so to retaliate against that what hisham does is pushes her age back to just being a little child and these numbers that he comes up with of three and nine they're not just totally arbitrary oh sorry six and nine they're actually i feel that and i've been this is part of my discussions i've come to learn that there's certain research done on zoroastrian pre-islamic culture and their marriages and there was a particular marriage that some zoroastrians one type of

marriage that zoroastrians did and remember this is in iraq this is the people who embrace islam when during the abbasid era these are the same people as like their grandfathers and stuff that their culture was that the girl when she she was uh betrothed or when she was uh taken um given in marriage at the age of six but what would happen is they would take her to a temple zoroastrian temple leave her there for three years to learn rituals and all these kind of things and be purified and at the age of nine

she would be collected by the husband now this six and nine had a cultural existence so and these zoroastrians continue to exist right past hisham's time because you've got in the time of imam malik him being asked about them still you know doing their other marriage where they marry their siblings and stuff and that which was still going on even in imam malik's time and he's in hisham's time and and junior to him lives on for several decades after him so what hashem does is he sees a practice that is common like it's in the

narrative six and nine is done by this community so he just takes this runs with this narrative of um you know that you know she was uh and i don't think he runs with it in one go i think he begins by just saying she's first of all just a little girl and then he just comes up with maybe she was around nine uh maybe she was and then this story keeps developing and all of his students are iraqi you know all the people who transmit this are iraqi at the base level and they are just projecting they're going back through him and other people are just fabricating their chains

just to support this story this narrative of one against the shia and to endorse um hashem and the surveyed kind of perspective and you know what's interesting is abu mansur sorry mansoor at the alabasi the abu kind of an dhafi like he gives uh a grant to select scholars imams of the time and and only a certain amount and guests who

and people don't list their names but they do list one name of one scholar who is selected for this grant that is hashem and then what happens after that hisham goes back to iraq and he did have a close tie with mansoor because when he dies mansoor reads his janazah so i would feel that this is what is going on there this whole thing i i'm sorry for just getting a bit uh kind of just carrying on but i feel that this you know this this was quite interesting and just on a side note you know this hadith thing i actually and this was part of the

discussion with us yes mean as well is that i do am inclined to feel that this is actually sorry it's just i find my i don't my voice kind of cracking i need some medical intervention right so this hadith thing i don't think was to do with

maybe people later on projected it onto aisha and it served also the sunni narrative to say it is about aisha because then allah has exonerated her in the quran allah is exonerated in the quran so it you know serves that narrative as well but i feel that after speaking uh to start at this stage i'm still researching it but that it i do see sense that it was actually about maria amarya the wife of the prophet who had

the son you see because ibrahim is the son of the prophet who is through marya and the prophet doesn't have any of the sons through these other the other current wives that at that time um now doesn't have any children with them so he has them with khadija but not with those wives so maria she is sidelined by a lot of the wives and this propaganda continues to the extent that they remove her name like people don't like her this is why muslims often uh have mistaken her as a slave of the prophet

where she was his wife and the student of imam malik list her as his wife and she used to live on the outskirts of madinah but what happens is in the prophet's lifetime there is a rumor that people spread that she has an affair with uh there's a person who comes with her he's a relative of hers his name was i think michael or or something like this now um later on it appears it transpires that he's actually a eunuch he doesn't have the male reproductory organs but at that time people didn't know but they used to always see them two together so they spread this rumor that they're

having an affair now this was important why because the paternity of the child had huge ramifications after all it's the son of the prophet and i feel i do agree that it had much more ramifications than simply than just a wife being implicated in an affair which okay has some ramifications on the reputation of the profit but it doesn't like it's not like at most the profit would just divorce her like this is like the most that would happen is

let's just say in that situation is the prophet is to divorce his wife i mean it's not the prophet's fault at the end of the day if one of his wife let's say if they had done something not that they did but let's say so yes it does impact his reputation and it's seen as an insult but there's no action of like this there's no greater consequence than the reputation side and the divorce but if there was a child involved there would be huge ramifications and because especially at that time with the arabs who were so um you know

about paternity so yeah so i am quite inclined and i'm researching this so i'll let you guys know how my research goes on this right right cool let's uh move on people we gotta wrap this up somebody said oh right i haven't even spoken about the charity somebody said about the nanaji show i've got actually let me see no not that

this was i did a collab can you guys hear this [Laughter] this

foreign there you go people that was uh i did a little collab there with the nanaji

kind of show subtitles too fast yeah but you can check it out i will put it up on my youtube thing but it's on his insta nanaji so cool somebody mentioned it so i thought yeah i've got it here actually i'll share it right so what's going down people what's going oh we got to speak about god damn i haven't spoken about the pain speaking of controversies and new controversy people you've got right no not that this penny appeal at the center of investigation into safeguarding issues at orphanages people what is going on

seriously you know this there's been an outrage recently we've had you know you get you'll get um this is the second in just in recent weeks there's one in luton as well crisis aid or something that was under investigation all these scams embezzlement i think something like just under i don't know something between i think 200 to 800 000 [Laughter] wow that's being you know dodgy dodgy over there in luton

then you've got this lava here going on right there being under investigation you've got uh if we take a look let's see they made a statement that look we've become aware of the alleged so basically what's happening is in gambia there's been certain things going on uh sexual kind of abuse with children uh exploiting vulnerable people utterly disgusting in addition to i believe what my sources tell me that there's been a

huge scandal about money as well allahu alam uh but that's what i've heard that there's been embezzlement issues as well but they've reported themselves to um to the charity commission they've had to i guess but this was some of the reaction the momo chimes in momo's from gambia so you can imagine that this is not only generally something that you know is hits home but it's it's incredibly personal uh so and he and very well said that look all these things sexual abuse exploiting children inequality illegally operating these

kind of things this is what was deemed by the the gambian um you know you've got uh the authorities in the investigation so far so and if we take a look at some of these people had commented saying like you know how do you say a legit too little too late uh what the hell is going on so boy i mean what is going on people honestly charities money money corrupts and

the problem with the problem with i suppose the whole muslim scene is we are so far behind in uh in keeping things up to scratch in oh in in auditing and stuff like this and it's a i don't i mean don't get me wrong i'm terrible at things like trying to keep things all structured and documented but but here you see if you're going to do something like that you have no choice but to so you can't be taking people's money and then

doing things like this you see because because there needs to be i mean this is just utterly unacceptable and you know this like oh that you know oh my god now we're gonna call into an inquir obviously this is gonna shake the foundations of people because they're giving money so you can help people in gambia they can help like you show like if you're gonna show photos of little children starving or you know being disheveled and let's help them and now people are flying over there and they're sexually abusing them it's like for god's sake i mean what the hell i

mean they were better off without your help and then to make matters worse people have paid you to do that not to do that but to go there and so yeah the level of betrayal is just on so many levels um so first and foremost may allah keep those children or victims whoever vulnerable people wherever they are safe and sound are mean may allah protect them and make things easy for them i mean that's first and uh secondly uh i don't

is i i believe the it's is it risvan hussein or something rizvan i've forgotten now but the the founder of penny appeal but they you know this is not something light and it's it's you know it needs i don't know if these kind of things if people can really if it's even work right for people to be able to come back from these things that's a question allahu alam and i guess time will tell but one suggestion would be that look you know when people operate abroad and i i read this

from a local charity making an announcement humanity gives on facebook and i thought that is an incredible point where they said that look when working with children it's always sensitive and when working abroad it's even more because the opportunities for people to kind of um you know through stealth sneak in and exploit are are much larger than they are in the uk because there's a lot more checks and balances here so one people have to do the right checks but two it's difficult doing that in certain remote countries

that don't have those facilities so those countries themselves don't may not have you know like these kind of uh dbs checks and their version of crbs and you know doing all these kind of things they don't probably have that in some remote countries so they gave a suggestion that rather than you going and opening your camp there it may be better to actually collaborate with an existing agency that is that is uh indigenous to that land so you help them in helping themselves

because you know you going over the okay you might not be able to tell like fair enough like they might say that look we don't know how to uh you know i don't know what's going on in gambia i'm sitting here in wakefield in yorkshire or wherever it is right so true i mean i wouldn't know like how do i know every single person is doing in let's say my business or something but then in that case you have to work intelligently then don't take on that responsibility but collect money but collaborate with indigenous organizations in gambia

in nigeria in somalia in pakistan in burma in people that are already there you collaborate with them you provide them the stuff but they deal with it all because they are indigenous they are more answerable to their people to their governments to the you know they're not going to be kind of flashing a passport and coming in and sitting on a flight and going back they know they live there there will be consequences so yeah so i think that that was an amazing uh you know suggestion but yeah my you know may allah protect these people and you know in all honesty i you see

i've never you see this has been a problem with a lot of it's not just sexual exploitation thing but just i don't know the element of trust you know these trust issues i don't know this is the problem and i hear that charities have this offer that i just heard this today the charities have this deal that if you can get them 100k they will give you 40k as a kickback so if i could raise a hundred grand from people to give to a charity they will pay me 40 grand as a kickback or between 30 to 40 grand i don't know if that's i heard that

today as true and certified um i think that's incredibly problematic and it's not problematic in getting the kickback you see because even though that is problematic but what's problematic because they're going to say well you know at least we're 60 grand we've got 60 grand to give now where we had zero what's problematic is the transparency see that's problematic because if i'm collecting charity and i show you a picture of um some poor child and you say you know what mufti

i feel sorry for that child here's a thousand pounds and then i say masha'allah 400 pounds of that [Laughter] are gonna go to my luxury lifestyle you know you see that that's the problem because i think these things need to there needs to be a transparency level um on highlighting that look a substantial amount is going because i would have thought you know i'm not an expert on these things and people might say well you're not an expert so why are you talking but i would but i i'm involved in other businesses and i would have assumed the admin costs

and working costs maybe between 15 to 25 that's what i would have assumed but i wouldn't have assumed that they would be 40 that is a staggering amount and i think there needs to be disclosure because if a person is giving 5 000 pounds or 10 000 pounds they need to know that actually i've just paid this guy four thousand pounds [Laughter] shavash and maybe i i need to spend that four thousand pounds on my own children you know because i like i need to be able to make a judgment call that maybe my kids are in need of money but i'm so swayed

by the emotions of seeing some kids suffering and i'm thinking well you know what give it to them so i don't know it's such a this is why i just can't personally just ever get involved in these kind of things because i just the responsibility is too burdensome i you know i just yeah may allah make things easy um yeah that's that's all i can say they need to stop with those images yeah i agree with you you know these kind of making people feel sorry and then you know ripping this yeah honestly

but yeah let's see what happens but this was this apparently like i mentioned i heard there was another charity in luton crisis aid or crisis muslim crisis i don't know something like that crisis something in luton i heard they're being investigated just like a couple of weeks back because of embezzlement and you know somewhere between half a mil i was just gone and you know how they're doing it and this is how they're doing it right they're doing it like this that they basically they've got in-house they're kind of like it's all kind of in-house outsourced so what we're doing is i'm

collecting charity from you i've collected 10 000 pounds uh i let's say i'm gonna buy food sachets or something i don't know whatever it is so this food sachet costs let's say three thousand pounds okay that's what it actually costs but what i'm gonna do is i have a middle company which is actually still me but i put it on my uncle my cha-cha my dad you know my brother my sister i put it on anybody's name my wife's name or somebody's name my son's name or daughter's name this is what they're doing they're just putting it on a bunch of people's names

and then that company would sell that thing now to the charity for like let's say ten thousand pounds but it's actually three thousand so it's a legitimate invoice that the charity would receive for ten thousand they would pay ten thousand but now i've just made seven thousand pounds and this is how it's kind of being done and i feel look i get it there's greed and i get it i get it i'm not you know i'm not trying to like bash down on human but i just it comes back to that thing you see because if it's not even like you know like a

little thing like these people go large you see they deal in the millions and they deal with so many people advertising you know people sometimes who are struggling with money and they're giving them money you see and that bothers that is like a bit that not a bit that is sad because if people are struggling with money but then they're giving it to you out of ikhla suniya that you know masha'allah this is and really out of a pound 70 pence is going into his pocket [Laughter] you know then it's this one not nice my friend you know this one sounds real bad you know you should because they deserve to spend it on

their own family that's what i would say people we've just had controversy upon controversy today whoa uh somebody said mufti check the super chats i'm just trying to check them i can't see any nope right so i don't see him do let me see he actually here i could probably i think i've answered the more thoughts on ibn massaroot listen to you would be happy to host and talk to you someday oh well that was apostate prophet i thoughts on ebony oh or why do you believe in islam

i've answered that before shukran but um let's get to a more interesting people the interesting right so moving from scandal to scandal we're now going to la lava people [Laughter] this is a pakistani actress i didn't know too much about her actually had to research [Laughter]

so her name is sabah kamar and saba kamar this one in controversy you know uh let's see with the uh uh counts right so what happens is let's just bring up if there's a right here she is crying and there's this guy with her the uh co-star or director i believe his name is bilal crying asking people to forgive them what is all of

this about what is this all about now let's go to no that's not what it's about here it is so this is it [Music]

and it's now she's been accused of blasphemy and now charged at the courts so you can see that and this has triggered so many people they've gone what the hell she did this spinning thing in the masjid uh so she this was part of her trailer for this movie kabul and it's to do with they do anika in that clip she explains

and then they get up and out of happiness the husband kind of makes her do a twirl and they said and i think in the clip there's music playing in the background but they said when we did the clip when we did the recording in the masjid there was no music she was just doing a twirl this is edited later on for the trailer and so on but people said oh my god oh my god you've got

foreign [Laughter] [Applause]

foreign [Laughter] he's gonna go there to pray juma i tell you don't under underestimate khadimu rizvi

i hope you guys can hear this by the way right so this you can see people what's happened hussain rizzu saab has turned up saying is that what the masjids are for to make people dance huh and this guy is oh my god and you know he has he has like this or to him you know this robe i have to say you know he

i don't mean to be raw i don't need to be robber you know for a disabled guy because he's disabled here he can wreak havoc i mean this guy he he has such like a command with his voice with his just his presence you'd never imagine it but he man he is good though and then you get but then look think about it you have must you have things like this going on in the masjid all the time

may not agree with it but he doesn't call them blasphemers [Laughter] [Applause] [Music]

[Applause] okay that editing was already there [Laughter] this is in birmingham in gamkol sharif this is right here you know these pakistani elders are like what the hell is going on

those pakistani elders you see the pakistani thing doesn't have this so they're like what you see this kind of stuff is always happening yet to be fair they even though i look i don't know maybe does condemn that but he won't be targeting these people but he will target uh sabah he will target her like she's actually been charged now because they've made such a big deal but then you look up like i was so shocked

to see you know i was so shocked to see this if you want to kill these blasphemers on the street do kill them off the recorder

i'm surprised this guy is apparently part of pti with imran khan you see so my point is that what on earth is happening here how can you have politicians politicians people of parliament speaking speaking like this like that oh you know well uh people off the record of the record marlo it's like what the hell are you even on about like

how can you how can you possibly ever condone something like that and i hope that this i haven't i don't know what's happened to this politician but as far as i'm aware he hasn't been taken to task uh but he needs to be because this creates a culture for people like to openly i mean to be fair he would probably do it anyway but to kind of be out there saying

look at him evoking the emotive language and girls dancing huh girls and all the sufis these guys that were doing this pallava before there's women in the background there as well by the way but okay he may say i disagree but they don't target them uh they don't kind of set out for them and that's my point [Laughter]

look at the emotional language though this is pakistan by the way [Music] this is this

[Music] he can make somebody emotional you know he has that skill to him but yeah guys so it's been ever so uh yet because he's on the line yeah and he by the way openly swears he's one of those oh i could call people the lies like a pimp

yeah but guys let's wrap this up if there's any quick questions i can uh somebody's saying can you comment on the baha'i get him in the paralympics he would he would kill the paralympics i'm telling you [Laughter] this this is what would happen to the olympics

you would kill it you know kill it this one right no that's a coffee for the after party hell yeah there needs to be some coffee ha tun tash how to untash i don't know who that is somebody said mufti versus what is that or on issues but i did find that intriguing the whole issue uh discussing it with us yes mean about um this is us about the about um being most likely the favorite wife of the prophet alaihi i found that to be definitely

very interesting and she was the and it is true that she was the political advisor she was the one and all the like the major events when the prophet took advice from she was the only wife that was constant in the prophet would often take two wives with him on a battle she was always one the other one varied i fluctuated but she was static which goes to show that you know it's quite interesting i i do see hmm i see some but i don't think you know look these things people are not look this is just interesting this isn't like

in a way um you know the problem is people become too sensitive they think oh my god um like in no way is that like to detract from aisha anha i think she's absolutely amazing and from you know that mother of the believer status but i don't think you know the problem is that we have this institutionalized numbers this is number one this is number two this is number three you know people say oh workers number one omar is number two this is number this blah blah blah blah blah and if you if somebody says well what do you think about this we go oh my god oh my god he must be at this

no uh i believe if i'm correct uh since imam cuz he's on the uh uh what is it he's tuned in i believe imam khazi would be inclined towards saying well giving preference to satan ali now personally i would see you know i feel that this this look what people give preference to it's entirely up to them you know many of the uh ulama of early islam used to dis like they would have person they would say i feel this person is better i feel some people used to say that they were zubaidi they used to feel zubaid was the best and some people

if a person has a take they have a take it's up to them you know i don't see some people have said i know siri iqbal who's i consider like my own teacher a dear friend um as far as i've recall correctly he says fatima anha is the best like number one and some people have said there is no number one there's just a collective but i feel that these things are just like they're interesting if you want to talk about them but they shouldn't become fighting issues they shouldn't become issues like oh my god you know what chuck him in this group and then pour

boiling oil over him or you know electrocute this one or i think people just need to kind of like calm down a bit yeah cool all right so all the mods i hate smart i don't know what these questions are guys let's wrap this up as always it's been awesome uh emmy you do and it you're doing it malik's i guess but uh follows him malik said ali malik said imam ali actually didn't say said ali to be fair he actually said um i don't know i think siddiq baal said to

me he said in a narration about fatima i that i have not come across but fair enough that may be one the other popular one is he said the usual just abu bakr and so on but it doesn't look my point of saying it is that look it's a chill like i feel that these things are not dogma they're not doctrine doctrine you know you can teach them but they're not there's nothing to kind of get all start thumping your chest mufti please visit germany absolutely rory it would be a pleasure you know recently i've had a lot more people subscribing to me from germany it's quite interesting seeing that

um other than that people's peoples was there anything i left out no i don't think so uh nope that's definitely not the one [Laughter] you know when you're like pressing something and it's like uh all right that wasn't the one either but okay guys there is patreon i'm up on it i did we did have our first um group session with people that was gone so there's going to be one group session a week sorry a month a month a month a month relax i'm not that one a month and there is a tier where

some people want a one-on-one and i've got to be like one-on-one i'm used to multiples you know multiples so so for them i'm like all right jello they can subscribe to that tear but i i these things are there check it out my patreon uh you can feel free to you know subscribe to i will have you see it's only been this month really we've just started it's only been a couple of weeks there are uh plans on doing a lot more the there's going to be an angle of uh sharing

certain uh voice notes as well i mean certain brief lessons as voice notes that's one of the just something that if i can do with these for example without having to cause you know without stress freeze just like done within a few minutes cool guys take very good care of yourselves any issues do reach out to me i'm going to put up my page like it subscribe click the notification bell if you don't god [Laughter] right so there's nothing more i can say if you don't i suppose we can go with the words i just remembered you see the words

before pakistani poet who was quite revolutionary in his what he stood for and was quite anti-authoritarian and he says um [Music] he has this uh famous line where he says [Music] right that's his name so he says we have come from those paths or we passed through those paths jaleb

said yet we left our heart and life our soul over there ye [Laughter] avargi is like this kind of like where you're just a kind of rebel you're just like a wanderer without

rules without institutionalization a bit local in your own way so he says that it is a miracle of the beauty of that lifestyle says wherever we went we left behind a saga people with that take very good care of yourselves [Music]

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