Monday Nights with Mufti Abu Layth: Session 130 (re-upload)

well our right people let's see if we live yes all right so I take it I think we're live in the hamdulillah Rockefeller salat wa salam o allah rasool allah mustafa well buddy live in october Oman Bay Hotel mr.

Bobby Arthur Medina or bad for Salam Allahu al al al mozambique ummah marhaban morning light bienvenidos a todos Rajesh Sharma deed people aren't always swagatam swagatam right so what's going on what's bothering your system folk of social media of facebook que pasa me gente

what's going on well see I know Mustafa and Robin allah wa sahlan Sajida make all of you tuning in marhaban become I'll just wait for one two people to tune in and then we'll get this show on the road a u'b Amin Amin it's been probably years yes Allah how did you go astray and find yourself in my company all of a sudden

hello Jota Jota in son Cooper technical tie you know you have to you know my mama al-huda loadable Allah that's the thing you've got to sometimes lose your way to appreciate [Laughter] [Music] oh good bad what's going on right so people what is going on I'm gonna give one minute maybe two people tuning in

those of you just tuning in on YouTube I've realigned the camera today so hopefully there's a you can focus I can hypnotize you all right so I'm not taking the questions on YouTube I'm taking them on Facebook so if you want to head over to Facebook and post questions you can do I will try to get through them there are some questions already there and there's a few topics that I'll be going through tonight why

is the quality trash I don't know as the quality dropped I'm watching myself I can't seem to see the quality I don't know let me see if I can get any feedback from my team right so I'm but I mean actually what I can see is fine the quality but carpet I know obviously I'm in my own world most the time froggy

froggy said he's been labeled deviant other means that quality is good for me quality supercool shukran shukran thank you for that feedback because I was gonna have to get some of the tea money and I couldn't understand because it I can see myself I could see myself in this screen and in this screen and in both I look as always bandana cheese you know I gotta be the humble the this if I'd humble you know the most despised the most impoverished you know they got

it the most despicable the most and you like whoa calm down me Oh somebody said I meant compared to YouTube well that's because Facebook has a restriction it only allows you to stream in a certain capacity whereas YouTube allows you to do Full HD so my Super HD equipment over here is recording me let's what are we gonna take a look at

tonight Allah Allah well there's going to be obviously your questions in addition to that we'll be looking at I'll be discussing my feedback my thoughts my reflections on the dialogue I had with her assault on G from Australia and I'll kind of share some reflections on it and the feedback I'll also be looking at there's been a a

video released of me of course why is he always these candles why nothing juicy yeah magically hey it's autumn what a case when you shoot like that there you know these low-level kind of scandals I I need something you know so this means some clips some extracts from my interview interviews not an interview with my dial from my dialogue with Abdullah Gunda and some people this five pillars not some people five

pillars five pillars they like the X I never had just besotted obsessed watch me so closely everything I do just to kind of pounce on anything that they feel that's nuts that's what five pillars are like they like and X the X from hell that I never had just so I don't feel that you know my time on this dunya went unfulfilled that

I feel yeah I missed out I never had an a venomous X yeah so they release this these snippets of mine where I'm discussing things like the afterlife and and hit ba-ba-ba-ba so I'm gonna I'm gonna come to that as well discuss that I've been asked to comment on there's a clip going round with chef yaku be sorry yeah what's going on all these people in

the words of Holly hunka hunka yak Tati I'm kaha kadar naughty kiss tsunami act at a base above who are Holub dushman Ozma that what was it that your tea was I so unique in some skill or was it something that what did I possess nothing holly was trying to say yet the whole world turned against me

the power of broadband people you see all I do is sit here and just use my if I'm not streaming TV series I use my broadband share my thoughts and reflections and let these ripples go off and create a butterfly effect so chef yaku be is in a video kind of condemning me about my my description or not description but my comments regarding

imam noah we so I've been asked that look you know here is His Eminence His Eminence is discussing me so oh well I can't say only I mean I'm the the anti eminence so water is my low my scum low life kind of response to His Eminence cello well we'll get to that as well and then we'll

also have to discuss will also have to discuss another my long-lost love chef asaji has also resurfaced by by uploading or people uploading a video of his titling a refutation of a belief and so what is that all about to do with Buhari so I've been asked to comment on that as well Wow what's going on it no its logic people get a group of like

hateful exes and I get this stop I mean at least with your exes that maybe the occasional kind of like you know under forgetful circumstances that maybe some some some compensation shall we say you can but here what do I get ha yes I love this so we suffer in this world painfully miserably and in isolation right

so what else is going on what else is going on so that the that's the the whole the trio that will be speaking about but till then let's first of all look at what is on your mind momenta what is going on the weather first of all in the UK is just killing it if not in a good way I don't actually like the kind of powerful heat I don't like that I just like it I like it bright

I like a breeze I like it you know I don't like it dull but I don't like it just hot and stuffy and I don't like that uh minister okay and then some people watching this will probably say huh so we're gonna do per Hellfire there many helpful really ha looks like so right what's going on what's going on

right Emma's in the house and my analyst Alan marhaban beak right so right Billy Boy you're doing it man Billy's in the house people all right so I'm just gonna make sure and try and bring up some questions that you guys have me you guys have been asking that have been bothering let me just switch the language here

okay so let's just go into this f1 f1 Sammy Oni lo siento mi gente lo siento now I'm I'm there right so what is going on people move some questions what do I think of somebody has asked me about cupping is that a train sound voix

falcon eysan super sharp is right there it's not actually a training sound it's a plane did you think I I don't live in class I have my own private runway this see this is what happens when you walk on the dark side in the sate and funds you see people are like I was watching this somebody sent me a link to I'm gonna

discuss it anyway that my my ex Fareed right so from Sony maja be defense so he had these clips and people were chatting about me and this was on Twitter they're saying a stuff this deviant DV and then somebody was saying find out where he gets his money from who funds him who funds well it's not your dad that's

funding me as a shame maybe if you ask a bougie can he kindly fund me right so I have business is my friends I have businesses so this is why I tell you people be entrepreneurial right be entrepreneurial people always be enterprising so having Dalila yeah so what what else is going what else is going on somebody said please explain the hadith way the Prophet split the moon I have got a

detailed video clip on YouTube where I'm explaining that that the Prophet didn't actually split the moon but that's what it felt like to people okay so it felt like that and if not sure I actually go through the tafseer of even assured the Great Maliki legend of the 20th century who actually says says that and so I go through what he's saying and I read it out I translate it and I explained that he mentions if not our shooters and he was the shell Aslam of the last century and he was a Maliki dawn all right I'm

my indirect teacher who I have a chain going back to of authorization through chef sadaebu kabsa to ignore now if our short mentions that this splitting of the moon was a phenomenon that people felt they experienced so the experiences are validated but it doesn't mean that the moon actually split and he explains how you would have felt that that they could have been for example he explains that they could have been a partial eclipse they could have been things like this and hence he brings the rewire vibha bus that it wasn't split

but crucified crucified come on that it was actually eclipsed he brings that rewire he also mentions how the kind of the atmosphere can give that effect with the mountains to make it look like that the moon is split so that's what he mentions and that that's what I'm annoying with as well obviously people can believe whatever they want but but I I obviously go with the voice of reason to me faith is firmly built on reason because that way if you see with

if you build your faith on reason it may appear to be slightly weaker in some ways it may appear right so that is slightly moves almost and that may be unsettling for certain people because they may want something so solid such a firm structure but because reason allows some movement it frightens people yet such a forcibly solid structure cannot withstand an earthquake people so such structures

dilapidate and collapse under structures but under earthquakes but you'll see earthquake proof buildings that are just that allow for certain movements this is why they actually lost and it's a it's a similar analogy if you like analogy I'm giving analogies you know I - you know capable of analogies alright so what else is going on what else let's take some questions from here what do you

make of the hadith of coping in abu dawood coping is bloodletting okay just in case you're mixing it up with a different kind of curved hill even if I say something innocent it comes off as though it's scandalous why porque this one this one not nice too bad it gets me a lot of trouble you know this one so I'm saying here just cupping

now cupping is contrary to what people think it isn't actually an Islamic practice at all it was simply as if not all doom the great legend and Malachy scholar mentions that cupping was simply of it was just of the treatments of the age it was something that is Lomb did not invent the Arabs were already demand it wasn't just Arabs many people were already partaking in this practice of coping right so that's why it was being

practiced so people did that you know the Companions would have done copping bloodletting the Prophet SAW Allah Allison would have participated in bloodletting but that's just being part and parcel of that society it's like saying would have he for example rode a camel of course he would have would have you lived in a desert of course he did because that's where he lived so la la I leave sell himself these things are not sacred per se so living in Saudi Arabia is not a holy thing to do okay it's not that because the Prophet lived in Saudi Arabia let's all go live in Saudi Arabia although

MBS is trying to accommodate who it is with the concerts he's trying to make it helpful this on this one bringing Nicki Minaj you know this one [Laughter] just to help recalibrate the Eman every now and then you know you gotta you gotta like em yes I guess so those of you don't MBS is Mohammed bin Salman the crown prince anyway staying on track so these things like

saying is it Sunnah just because the Prophet rode a camel should we all be riding camels no that's not how this works okay so doing things that that would just circumstance you know just par the circumstances where the Prophet was he's is nothing right this is another pressing question here so there's nothing that there's nothing holy about cupping and today a lot of scientific research demonstrates that there's nothing cupping doesn't actually do anything as far as I'm aware I was

speaking to dr. Ron who's on Facebook he runs the Metroflex gym and also is involved he's a doctor and medical research and lectures and has that I mean you can reach out to him from Facebook I think it might be cool trance is it called transformation now but anyway if you search Imran Khan dr Imran Khan and Metroflex it should come up but you can reach out to doc and ask him that he himself conducted several studies where he I think he told me he sent off 60

something blood samples that were from bloodletting so you know when the blood is all kind of it looks all toxic and and horrible he sent that off and had it tested for any kind of excess toxins and it wasn't it came back negative it just came back with what you'd normally expect it was nothing it wasn't actually removing so many toxins from the from the body yes so there's no kind of conclusive findings and this is nothing so new to Islam Christianity was really big on bloodletting especially in

the 17th century 16th century leading up to the 18th century and you can and there's an amazing discussion about this on on the BBC podcast in our time where it discusses religion and then discusses bloodletting an amazing discussion they've got so you can check that out if you like Jennifer Lopez was invited to Morocco and performed a concert she

dressed a little too wild but now she's banned oh the tragedies of this on man I just keep getting video interrupted Elizabeth hang in there I'm sure it'll clear up I'm sure it'll clear up right what else what else awesome questions people somebody had asked a question saying can I do voodoo whilst all this was a legit question it's on me can I do will do whilst all wet and in

the shower are you trying to explain to me that you get all wet in the shower is that what we you know were in the shower taking a shower and we're all wet I like the way you explained that part to me like like I don't think he's gonna get this one I need to kind of break it down

for him can you do will do what's taking a shower what else are you doing walls taking a shower that is preventing you from doing nothing that what what do you think I'm talking about I'm talking about just daydreaming what the people the corruption you know the cops ian is in the in the mind in the mind so correct

opinions on apostate prophet I I think he's trying to flirt with you if that guy's trying to flow that's not the way to do it okay what why me you don't like me why me I'm not an object can you imagine guys today that guys start feeling like the Huns are an object not just an object I have feelings you know I have I have a

personality ah said no guy ever [Laughter] guys I just like bring it on please please right so think he meant you are high with your own supply Amy is that what's going on all right no no no this is my default settings I'm you don't by default I'm kind of high as a person I

don't know why but God created me that way seriously I am kind of by default a bit eccentric should I say at the least what else what a shape saying what are your thoughts on doggies in in early like behave behave people this is Q&A live

and unrestricted though but it's Q&A Q&A can we say music is haram now through trajectory hermeneutics music is haram why would music be Haram why would we see how music was never Haram to begin with and to say it's Haram for trajectory hermeneutics but why I actually do feel that you know you have the the saying that music is the nourishment of the soul and I feel that that's so true in many ways the way me

it can touch the soul very few things can do that right bird sing music absolutely Amy birds sing in nature we find this right around us you know it's amazing that what music can do to an individual it can bring people out of comas as an example even if people are suffering from mental health they've shown things like music can help maybe slow down that degeneration it's amazing

I mean you wouldn't you wouldn't assume it but then you think in the past even Muslims had these marathons these kind of music therapy hospitals which were in the Middle East obviously today the the mullahs would go mad Taliban would they would kind of wreak havoc but in that day and age the skull is and Islam and Muslims were much more enlightened so they had these music therapy hospitals and I think I think that's an amazing amazing concept indeed I think music really touches the soul

and there's different kinds of music obviously not every kind is every person's cup of tea but music to ban music it deprives human beings of a particular experience in life and I tell you it's not that you know these things like music they are to be celebrated I think not made to feel guilty about like if you listen to some music you shouldn't be

made to feel guilty for that that said I do agree that this I mean this is my thoughts people may disagree with me that there's some kind of music that I would think is trash I would think it's and I don't just mean hear about taste what I think maybe encourages a wrong kind of message and it does things like that but that doesn't make it her arm but that I guess it's a propriety issue it does it's something I wouldn't you know it's not the kind of music you would play around let's say and by music I mean songs yeah so you wouldn't play them around children or play them you

know maybe the kind of content what they're talking about but that doesn't make it Haram that just makes it a propriety issue that you you do in certain you know like if some people listen to me that's their choice but you wouldn't want it around true just as you wouldn't want swearing around children like that's just a propriety issue it's not that swearing in and of itself is necessarily Haram it's not Haram swearing at somebody can be Haram because that's causing harm harming somebody is Haram but not swearing in and of itself it may not it's not an I'm

not saying it's an encourage thing but it wouldn't be Haram it's like saying eating I don't know junk food you know it's not a good thing you wouldn't want to mmm oh you know OD on it you wouldn't necessarily want children growing up on it but it's not something Haram okay alright so what else is going on oh right yeah other is there distraction noise about the planes or whatever it may be because I've got the window open and sometimes usually a train is closed

but it's quite warm I was contemplating putting air conditioning oh we only get like two days a year that are hot right so what else is is it allowed to listen to music with potentially shirk lyrics such as the kind of thing you'd find in Bollywood songs in a little is equal is he calling Bollywood Jack Bauer

are you calling Bollywood shake alone my fella home fighting for in Oman yeah of course it's okay to listen to music that's Bollywood or if it's even if it's praising you see so there are certain songs in Bollywood I mean I don't mean they're not like legends or things like that are actually like hymns they're not like that but I think what what the person means is there's certain songs

that will say oh I worship you in love and to me you come before God for example there's that famous song what is it which may rub dicta that I see God in to me that isn't really shitty anyway to be fair because I think like if somebody reminds you of God or in that person you see a manifestation of the divine at work see taught to do with your understanding will mean Hoonah it Stella

Fertile of her people you know well what can you do it's in the words of was it Watanabe where he said well hello alayalam tamil is it is it my fault if cows don't understand Wow so that's so these things are fine they not Haram to listen to you don't need to freak out it doesn't mean that after you heard you're gonna start worshipping idols now and this is why I so love the

poets of the past especially the or do poets I feel that the other two poets of the past was so secure in their faith that they could speak about these things openly without any fear of repercussions without any fear of faith like they were just true to their faith such an admirable quality honestly I find it amazing so somebody said to many blind sheep on here listening to this guy says somebody who's on here listening to me

the irony the irony somebody comes on here watches me and then says that there's too many sheep on here watching this guy are you referring to multiple personalities of yourself by any chance [Laughter] what else people what else raaah she's in the house a little silent somebody said do I would I multiple wives the more the merrier I I don't even believe in a restriction on for i i'm with imam show can me and imam show kenya like this we're like like oh yeah

we're kind of like just rockin it me an imam show Connie so the mime show can he clearly argued that look there was no restriction no restriction people man is born free yes everywhere he is in Chains Oh what is this world yeah la Pira Assad bond donkey niya Dona Ana for dunya as a llama Iqbal said he said Oh God you truly inherent you you you creatures these humans who are

inherently free they belong neither to this world nor to that world yamaneika bobbin diva Nikki bobbin here you you're restricted it's inevitable that you die and they you're doomed to live forever you know either way you get no choice that was a la Mike well this is why I love poetry and you know great amounts like your mom chef are you stressed why it's important to acquaint yourself

with poets and because these people will expand your horizons I'm telling you the the expansion that you'll get from poets I would actually advise people today that if you if you want to reattach with let's say with the faith and also the broader kind of I don't know like a cultural belonging which many people do I would say instead of movies right instead of these kind of mullahs spend invest your time reading or watching

poets seriously I think you you will thank me in years to come you'll say you know wha that musty maybe he said a lot of wacko things but on that thing he was on point because these people will give you something they are their thoughts you know and don't don't take them lightly these poets the thoughts are much more profound than most movies and the clergy most of the clergy combined maybe the exception of some you're gonna count me in the clergy then maybe with the

exception of some right but these I'm telling you these poets their understanding let me tell Joan Elia the legend we

were saying that the connection wasn't stable I don't know why that happened I'd complain to Virgin Media I had them boost up my entire thing had an engineer come round and so I was really I'm not expecting any kind of hiccups on that front so right I was going to tell you a line from John Elia the legend he says in this poem people wait for this I've got to pick up the other glass my my SAMCRO alright people

that's what we're talking about men of mayhem SAMCRO sons of anarchy right so he says to to somebody he loves I'm sure he had a few amorous kind of relationships but as you do not not hell

me wrong religion right so he says to this woman he loves he says kitten until cotton cotton until to whom that how amazingly beautiful and attractive that you are work at the night Dale June and what kind of enthusiast and a person full of life and

energy that I am that I am and how beautiful you are kitten Adele cash autumn or kitten Adele German of Sasuke hemlock March I he said what a tragedy that even we will eventually just die yeah you know sometimes I'm telling you when you you've got to read this poetry people it pierces the heart it crushes

the soul it's amazing you know sometimes you you you see these words that people have said and the way they've resonate and here's another very interesting line and I've always found this very crowd routine in it it's almost like it's it's unsettling I overwhelming that he says he says Johnny can Hodge marry but see here

Johnny Hodge marry but see here honey arch getting murkier Tommy that is such an amazing oh my god like he says his bird sees like an anniversary but here it's like a death anniversary so he says my love is today my death anniversary does that mean it was on this date that I died and that is just so Wow like unsettlingly powerful to read anyway I don't know I mean this is I share my

thoughts with you some of you might be thinking you had a cow book Mosca oh yeah you might be thinking what nonsense is this guy chatting so right so see a job saying this guy will say eating pork is good for you right well ah looks like some people are here and they were upset that I'm going to be responding to a few people so it's triggered and yet look at that the beauty is that they have to come and

watch me I love it I love it the power you know it's like damned if you do and damned if you don't you know if they don't watch me they What did he say uh as I said once before that you can love me or you can hate me but you can't ignore me

murat is asking an interesting question is the bible corrupted if not then why is the Koran more authoritative I think the the point here is that it's not I don't feel this is me I don't feel that the previous scriptures were necessarily revealed in the same way as the Quran so the Quran is a or an it is something for recitation or an means recitation Quran Inara bein that Ananda now or Anna Nara

pian that it is a Quran a recitation that you will read the other books were not a recitation and I feel that the Gospels were simply just a good news that's all they were they weren't Scripture in this sense I mean they were being articulated by Jesus but I don't feel that it was I mean I could be wrong but I don't think it was something that he was trying to give them that would be a recitation for them it was just a message that he was giving them of good news called the gospel that the good

news that's what it is and the Old Testament in a similar way the Old Testament is a you know it's a collection of many books which I feel many of them may have been kind of like inspirations that were put forward by people so yeah so I think there's an essential to do with the essence the ontological like to do with the actual reality of the texts there is an ontological difference between these scriptures they are not of the same kind

they are not like for like that's what I feel and I think some people because they they assuming that these prior scriptures were like like and then they got corrupted that's not the case I think what got corrupted was and by corrupted I think it meant a got slightly confused was the overall message not all parts of the overall message okay you should consider writing a book I should well shokran muchas gracias Amy sugar and

father believe me these people are misguided is just getting blind followers says SIA who's still watching me even your haters will flock to you Allah what is it huh what is this magnetism

milky milk milky milk is asking about physical intimacy outside of marriage people we have a deviant in our midst we have an impure pervert now look let's be real people let's be real institutionalized religion is not going to provide a solution to these problems

we have a huge problem of not just we humanity in the 21st century has a huge problem to do with relationships huge problem and Muslims especially in the West who are part and parcel of that world are equally stuck and in some ways worse off because we're constrained with the problems of the age which everybody has but then we're also constrained with the element of culture and then also you

know who is not twisted but tainted religion that is tainted and so we were getting it from all angles and not in a good way so the thing is but this is so you have to feel for Muslims that you know people are suffering and then when they do partake in certain things they the immense guilt adds to the psychological pressure I think it's it's a very difficult time it's an amazing time to be alive but at the same time it's difficult you're not the irony of

the ages it's an amazing time to be alive for the most complex of matters and yet for the simplest of martyrs that have been coming since time immemorial like relationships it's one of the most difficult times to be because these things which in the past was so simple today appear incredibly complex and paradoxical in nature the things like relationships because there is an endless stream of choice we are

inundated with so many people we constantly will question our own choice we measure human beings measure their happiness by by contrasting it against others and others will always seem much more happier in a world of social media so this adds to the kind of depressive state that we're going through as a as humanity right so I feel that this really serious and I highlighted

previously I kind of study where you I mean and there's many other studies but this was just one that I highlighted in psychology where people were given a simple choice of a kind just just some kind of sweets and chocolates and things that they would would like and they were given a brief choice of something like I think only a dozen items and they just had to choose one and that they would like and then later they just had to rate how satisfied they were with having chosen that or do they regret and wish they'd

chosen something else and people felt that the overwhelming majority over 80 percent felt very content with what they chosen they're really glad oh yeah I had that dessert or that chocolate or that it was really good and then a similar counter group that were given a hundred products to choose from and only chose one with the overwhelming majority of them then feeling dissatisfied discontent with their choices and regretful that I mean I know here it's not a big deal but still an element of regret that I you know I should have chosen something else because what happens is we

or drowned by a myriad a an infinite nature of choice it paralyzes us we are paralyzed by choice and then we live with regret so when you're on social media when you when a person in this day and age with relationships so so they see so let's say somebody sees a beautiful girl and this Wow he's mesmerised with this girl and he thinks she's totally stunning and beautiful and attractive and and which lets she is so he's now he pursues a relationship they

pursue a relationship and they hit it off and you know they're in a relationship they get married or whatever now but then like her there are thousands of other beautiful stunning women let's say on social media as an example now this person is equally seeing them on social media and this level of exposure and it's an although one may question is it really a choice but I mean how much freedom does he have in truly establishing a relationship with all of these women but still there's a perception a deceptive

perception of choice there's an illusion of choice that illusion of choice creates an element of discontent within the person's heart because he feels like I've lost out and likewise they said this isn't restricted to I'm just giving the example from a man's perspective equally to a woman I mean this is not gender specific so people are struggling and then there's this constant thing of trying to you know show compete against

others and this this pursuit of this this high-octane pursuit of happiness it's very difficult to keep to keep up with so yeah right so I just thought out I'd say some of that right so what else is somebody called Imam Hussein Allahu Akbar I couldn't you couldn't make this up somebody called Imam Hussein Allahu Akbar he's on here saying this guy is a clown I mean if if you are gonna troll people

at least don't use the title name of Imam Hussain I mean for God's sake what kind I mean how much more disrespectful could you be to Imam Hussain and then following it with allahu akbar these are the trolls of this day and age people the trolls yes so by the way in case people were asking I do feel that they that in the Sunni discourse people ought to promote or at least legitimize things

like Mota because really it's you know many Sunnis like if not sure and many of the people did not believe it was Haram and at least that's a solution to this relationship problem okay but that's some thoughts and people the problem with that is the moment you say you know Mota people say ah so you must be a Shia

[Music] [Laughter] it's like that slow clap right anyway so what else is going on people what else is going on right shall we take to sell our trolls on tonight anything I wonder who sent them what is the punishment for a person who had memorized the Quran and

then later in life ended up forgetting it there's no punishment for people like that these things these have ether not Sahib but these are just overall messages that people these are like weak hadith anyway but this message was simply a method of getting people to of kind of motivating incentivizing people to to commit the Quran to memory to invest their time in the Quran so you

will get many you know many people from the seller who later in life admitted that they fabricated many hadith so for example most hadith to do with the virtues of the Quran are actually weak or fabricated and the reason being is that in early Islam a lot of people you know you get many narrators or have none be Mariam other people you'll get you'll get several kind of narrators who will later admit to having fabricated hadith they will say we fabricate we just made them up hadith to do with the virtues of the

Quran why because we felt people were going away from the Quran so to them that was they were doing a kind of ironically they felt they were doing a service to the Dean and they said we weren't lying we weren't lying against the Prophet we were lying for him this is actually what they said in the books if you read it they said we do lemnoc alayhi cuz if Milo who they go we don't lie against him we lied on his

behalf I our religion what people will do in the name of religion sometimes is amazing it's amazing somebody said the beard of a woman all right I've got no idea what that means I might be it seriously is this the beard of of the womenfolk around you I feel sorry for those women if they all sit around with goatees and attach out like

that well what is your take elizabeth is asking on people speaking in tongues I witnessed it a lot and talked about it a lot never saw in the Muslim country you see there speaking in tongues phenomenon I I just feel it's a kind of trance-like state that is induced and people do these things because any narrative exists so speaking in tongues there is a narrative within the Christian community to do things like that so hence the

phenomenon plays out I mean to do that in a culture or a surrounding that does not have that narrative wouldn't make any sense just as in the Muslim culture you have this thing of being possessed and somebody's the magic on me or black magic evil eye and and then people act out in accordance with the narrative the over-arching kind of narrative so in a similar way that's what it is in my understanding these are simply psychologically induced phenomena that don't have a true reality in that sense

no right admin or ready says locked loaded and ready to block amen amen to that right so tongues is he a Christian is based in just a later fabrication sha sha sha I mean the Christian Christendom I'm sure has its problems just as many things do arise the admin are now awake Rumple so we're gonna get some blocking

right also before I forget Muslim Millennials is an awesome project there's a final push to kind of support it that's all kinds of support your moral support your actual support ensuring their their work but also currently they are doing a fundraiser to sustain their project for I believe another year or so but you can find it on the Muslim millennial page have read of it check it out I have shared it these are young Muslims who are trying to identify with religion as it feels with a sense of

real feel which young people can actually relate to the problem is today you know this the Dean of the mullahs the kind of the reign of the mullahs is kind of over and that kind of weird hard-hitting very cultural folklore religion from back home with many insecurities and inferiority complexes and desires to rule the world and that kind of that is you know it's it's it's crumbling in the East in the West it has

no chance no chance at all with the younger generation I tell you that they will either many of them will either just abandon the Deen if forced to take on a ideology like that so the people like Muslim Millennials or these young these young kind of efforts and they've done some podcasts and interviews and these young guys I like what they're doing you know you get and some of them many of them are my friends this particular project

and students and they have this this this podcast has Baraka boys and I think it's amazing what they do in holid speak the whole there's most of our Briggs and this whole thing I feel that Momo is obviously with them as well oh yeah this whole thing I think that you know just having the courage to actually just speak with what they feel but I'm not not having to run away and abandon the religion because you know

that the clergy are not happy with that so nobody owns this thing so we we it is for us okay so that's some words for that people is selling drugs Haram yes of course I mean I'm very against this this crime culture this drug-dealing culture it's brought nothing these things have brought nothing but tragedy to the Muslim communities they've brought a terrible name to Muslims it's amazing how Muslim parents turn a

blind eye quite easily to the culture of drug dealing they won't they don't turn it that easily to other things but they will you know very easily just say oh well you know oh no no no my son no my son I'm sure he's doing some kind of tele sales job that's why he's driving a Lamborghini oh is that how it works he's Justin this one just ad mean you know he but he got super cars you know he got

three super cars now masha'Allah very hard-working my son but it's a shame really you know the addiction that the people on the other end the tragedies in their lives may Allah make things easy for them but yes so do you have to return what you stole in Islam or is asking for forgiveness okay Lewis Johnson Lewis Johnson rather odd on a Muslim Q&A Oh

g'day Johnson well rather if one one has been caught one has conducted actions of left in the past are we referring to clonal ism here I talking about the Kohinoor the diamond from India can you please return it return it to me its rightful ear right here so now well you see returning

things that are stolen that's an interesting one I would say that you have to kind of play by ear that you have to kind of assess the situation at hand you see sometimes that may be very great and amazing thing to do incredibly noble admirable and and utterly ethical that that would be the thing to do in many circumstances but in some circumstances it may be the wrong thing to do because it may trigger a greater tragedy

so it may cause a series of problems that are much greater I mean it may you know it's like if somebody says well I had an affair with this woman for example now I've gone Wall Street should I go and own up every same person would be like results sometimes some things will cause greater harm and tragedy than other things so one is that the theft has been done now how can you make

amends if it is something in which you can return the thing I think that is ideal and optimum but if you feel that it's going to create much more harm and it's going to add an all trigger a series of unfortunate events then that would not be the best thing to do and but you know maybe maybe you can make amends in some other ways but this is all situation based for that please refer to my consultancy which has an

hourly billing rate right so multi many atheists say the Quran is wrong in that they say Iman Elysee enemies both father of Musa Miriam yeah sure I mean look you know this thing that yeah of the Harun this is not all right sorry about a man Ali Sarah or about Mary mollies salaam

enough what I'll do is I'll go through that in an entirely separate kind of discussion okay is Japanese in Marvel is haram to have eyebrows longer than look at that we are propriety people right okay blocked just rude I mean there's other people on here you know just being I mean it doesn't bother me you're not insulting me per se you just

acting like an idiot and right so all right let's have a let's move on to this some thoughts and reflections on my dialogue with heart assault on okay those of you that haven't seen that excellent you know when you get a message that just blocks part of the view right so I had a very enjoyable dialogue with Hari Sultan who's a world-renowned X Muslim he's from

Pakistan originally and I think for several years at least I'm pretty sure maybe a decade and a half he's he's residing in Australia so he's been very vocal on these issues he has a book the curse of God and he's made a lot of YouTube videos on mistakes in Islam why Islam is nonsensical and what and he said it is and he's had a lot of traction as well and so a lot of people are influenced by him and he's offered

out to have a dialogue with many Muslims many theists who I think most of them have refused generally so it reached out to me and I I thought it was a wonderful opportunity to kind of like connect and chat and he did say that he wanted it in order to because that particular channel of his call pac---- a Pakistani will hate a Pakistani atheist is an audio channel and that's the so it's dedicated to a particular like the subcontinent okay the Indian subcontinent India Pakistan things like that and so it's in

the primary focus the medium is or - so I said yes sure no problem although I haven't generally I mean I do speak or two but I don't spend hours on end in a dialogical in a very technical dialogue usually in ortho i mean i speaking although at home and things like that and obviously I love her but it was actually so I did think to myself before embarking on the dialogue that would I be able to truly express myself because that's what I want to do and what would

I would would there be a hindrance but hamdulillah I don't really feel there was any hindrance and I thought it was amazing and when we spoke for so long I didn't even realize the time it went on for over four hours it is on YouTube you can watch it if you'd like to I my reflections on it I'm really glad that we had this dialogue I I've had just as with Abdullah gondol I had a dialogue with him just on about two weeks ago that was in English that's on YouTube as well now I feel that some people have kind of said to me Oh they've got back

to me and some people have tried to say that you know oh you should be weary of these people they are snakes and these people are like you know they're hateful and they hate Islam and the bigots and so on and so forth and I I feel that I I disagree I disagree I have I have respect for these people now when I say that I don't mean that I have to respect everything they say okay just as I

wouldn't expect them to respect I mean they may tolerate things I say but I don't expect them to respect everything I say but as a person they can respect me and I can respect them and that is the purpose of dialogue see what is this world people if we can't even sit down and talk to each other if I feel that just because you don't believe in my god I can't even talk to you I can't even have a dialogue with you I'm so scared I mean what kind of a world are we living in what kind of a faith am i

upholding if that's how weak my faith is that I am too intimidated to kind of engage in an individual who has left Islam and lest he should trip me up or bring out faults about Islam and and look the conversation was a very transparent one I knew that look there's going to be an exchange of ideas there's going to be questions from both sides and they will be responses I did feel and he did and I expected her is Sultan for example in this dialogue to question

me on certain things that he felt were mistakes in the Quran I did expect that I mean now that was something I thought he was going to do and that's fine I'm glad he did because look when he speaks like let's say Harris felt on now he's going to do a video saying there's mistakes in the Quran which I'm sure he's got several love now many Muslims may watch this and feel that damn if only you know like a Muslim could could speak to him and see all these actual mistakes now the problem is Muslim scholars most of them are too

intimidated to speak to these people they feel that all four speak to them oh I've got why the hammer then kill the apostate or I've got to you know I can't come out like looking like oh he got me in a comic I don't know and it is too insecure to too worried about what the crowd will say see to me it's not like that to me it's like well let's have a chat it's fine I mean I don't know what you're gonna hurry salt on did not tell me anything that he was going to discuss with me neither did Abdullah gone though

we had no idea I just said that it's it's going to be a free-flow conversation that's all I said okay and that's all we did so he could be through anything I mean I also questioned him on certain aspects I mean he didn't know what I was gonna do but that's the nature of a human dialogue it is so good to just talk to people just to understand what's going on in their mind to to see what is it that's bothering what is it that's puzzling this person you will find that

many people are very sincere as well in their own search that these people you know these atheists they actually think about religion they're not people who are you know some of them may have become a bit bitter and venomous and vile some of them may have big but that's also because of the reaction from the Muslims like look at me like I'm here now I'm a Muslim I'm a qualified scholar in Islam I'm a you know I'm a Musti somebody who studied Islam for so many years you know I've studied Islam I've been studying it now as a

continuous journey for at least two over two decades it was 1997 when I began studying Islam now I I have in that time memorized the Quran I have gained an unbroken chain of transmission going back to the Prophet in the Quran I have studied the major books of the major sciences of Islam at least from either an intermediate or to an advanced level I have studied in secular universities religion I have completed the major books of hadith from cover to cover

like Bihari Muslim abu dawood tirmidhi and gained an authorization I'm authorized to teach them I've graduated as somebody as a Mufti who can formulate his own opinions within Islam I'm I'm empowered by the Sharia to do that yet I will have people come on here and the reason I'm saying this I will have people come on here and tear into me Muslims with the names like titles like imam hussain allahu akbar like that troll that just came on here with that title and then just trolling me and hating on me I'll have somebody

coming on here using abusive language at me Muslims people who probably pray five times a day yet just because I appear different in views to them and I am probably so much more I don't say this arrogantly I say this objectively learn it in Islam then they are like they probably wouldn't even be able to understand one verse of the Quran in its reality like as in explain which part is the verb which part is what they don't understand not even one verse of the Quran yet they

were finally absolutely fine to come on here and mock me as a scholar what do you think how do you think they treat X Muslims how do you think they react to them they react to them with great venom with such bitterness they abuse them they threaten them the you know like they'll they'll insult their families they'll swear at their families at their wives they'll threaten to rape their wives they'll I mean this is being said

by more like people with beards and praying and that this is the state and then they are surprised that these people hate Islam see why would they not hate Islam because you guys have forced them to hate Islam so I'm I have look all human beings does not matter what you believe you can be a Christian a Hindu a Sikh a Muslim a Jew you can be an atheist you can be an ex-muslim

you can be an agnostic I will have respect for you always as a human being and then your actions can determine other things but so a dialogue is something I believe is imperative in our age so that was a very I thought it was a very enjoyable dialogue we discussed many things he did mention to me certain verses the embryology verses I did go over them I said I don't feel that there's any mistake in the embryological verses he did I mean we discussed that at some length actually I mentioned that the

embryological verses Allah begins them by mentioning in quantum theory beam in al bathra if you doubt the afterlife then we created you from soils ina Helana common Torah we created you from soil some mummy not far then a drop of fluid now what's interesting is that I said that nobody takes we created you from soil to be literal so if you don't take the beginning and the whole objective of the verse to be literal why are you so hooked up on everything else must be so literal and not just an

overview because the verse doesn't even begin like that nobody reading that verse actually believes that they themselves physically were soil so that was my first point the second point was that you see where is the mistake in this verse because Harris had mentioned that he felt that the Allah says that about them motherland and when the mother becomes bone what is it some maca sonal Adama Lachman then we covered the bones in flesh or we kind of

placed the the flesh on the bones and things like this like as in meat we place the meat on the muscles and things like this now I did mention to him but you are away because he said that the mistake in embryology is these things of produced simultaneously and produced much later so I did say to him but you are aware that things like cartilage are produced very early in in the development of a fetus so so he wasn't aware of or maybe he appeared he wasn't aware or he said well that's I'm not so sure cartilage is too soft to be bone and maybe then God should have said

soft bone but so this wasn't but it was a good discussion to explain that look I don't feel that I accept that that could be your interpretation but I don't feel that's a that's clear enough to call it a mistake like you know daddy is how things are now you could say well no I'd like to call it like this I'd like to call it like that but the verse was actually speaking about a continuity after death that if you are so shocked about the continuity after death then what do you think in San came from and I mentioned that because I know Harrisville Tom does bring up a lot the

verse to do with and a Reutimann baby so we want to ride that it comes out from between the ribs and the spine from the ribs and spine and he said and they say well sperm doesn't come from the I did mention that look if you look at this verse that fell young girl inside me mahalik in science should look at what he was created from holy coming man in death he was created from this this kind of liquid Yahoo to membrane is soapy water live this year Raju he coming out

who is what is the program going back to yahoo Jew does it go back to the fluid or does it go back to in Sun here many scholars law including if Nadia the great Andalusia officer from you know around the 6th century Italy he had written in stuff see this was very clearly refer this refers to in CERN insomnia Croce membranous shall be what arrived that in Sun is coming out from between these bones now and I explained that why is that important for enzyme to be coming out from between these bones what's so special about that

that's because the Arabs the Arabs they they weren't giving significance to bones and in surah yaseen they were questioning they were saying that so you have in other verse of the Quran mean your heel Adamo wa hear me that who will bring these bones back to life in control he arrived in Manila bath if you are in doubt of a continuity afterlife then look what we created you from a fluid that then develops into this lump that then has

these little bones and then he comes out from between these bones that you say who will bring these bones back to life and from between these the structure of bones the skeletal structure emerges in sun and allah says and what is this in sun he in some ways is so he become something else the mansion now hull can occur we made this into something else this creature became something

incredible he then went on to give an example to give parallels on to us and forgot his own creation that he emerged from something that that he himself would despise that he'd be so shocked from between a skeletal a bone structure this creature merges that becomes something some magic now become something amazing and I think that in

that lies what I would believe is the true miracle the miracle of human beings and so these things so that was part of the kind of discussion there were many other things discussed but I thoroughly my feeling was I really enjoyed it and I think there needs to be much more of these kind of die okay right okay let's move on to some of these things people what is what is

going on all right let's take let's take controversy one by one a kicker Kajal make a line time to pick a number and get in line this so five pillars five pillars masha'Allah this one Muslim you know this guy you know this D Li and these five pillars they are so obsessed

with me and it's amazing because they they claim to be an international Muslim organization that is covering global events affecting this Muslim Ummah and yet they are they are covering me so I'm loving it this is Wow because you know at the end of the day no press is bad press people because when they look whoever they reach out to is not really my crowd okay so whether they reach out to they will definitely

be at least a 5 to 10 percent margin that will go away watch me and think actually this guy's making sense and [Laughter] then there were so this is so I'm in many ways kind of indebted to these people for continuously and persistently and consistently being obsessed with me that's it's great effort man it's it's hard work I gotta say but they they show truest akarma anything they can find on me they will publish

it publishes a grand word for them but they will just make some online little article so today I saw one that was sent that almost he doesn't believe in the afterlife he says it's symbolic I've got many video clips which are on YouTube where I'm already tackling this issue and what they've got is an extract of mine from my discussion with Abdullah kondal where I'm speaking of the afterlife and I've said that the imagery in the Quran is in my understanding symbolic now you don't need to agree

with that I have not asked you to agree with that that would be ridiculous if I asked you to agree with me then that would just be dogma but you see to me that's my reading of the Quran we know Allah when he and people may say how first of all what is symbolism like let's say if I asked you to represent the concept of freedom how would you do it one example is you could have let's say here here's a here's an image let's say

a beautiful white horse running fast along I mean it's running along this often isn't a kind of a a picturesque scene that is used to demonstrate freedom the sim it symbolizes freedom a dove white dove is often used as symbolism for the concept of freedom to me the continuity that this dunya life does not end here there is continuity

that continuity is complex to explain so the this kind of imagery is simply symbolic it is just to help certain people who would need it to get by otherwise the Prophet himself said nobody can even conceptualize what after life is about so the Prophet said Omaha terribly badly by shutting up not a single human could ever conceptualize if you can't even conceptualize if you can't even conceptualize something how

can you express it in words so to me the afterlife the imagery in the Quran is symbolic you may say well really and then I would draw your attention to Allah describing himself in the Quran and what is much greater than the afterlife is God himself and God uses imagery he uses symbolic imagery a lot of Lord of similar to Allah Allah is the light of the heavens and the earth this is symbolism this isn't literal so if Allah can be symbolic when referring to himself what is heaven in hell so

that's an you see you may disagree with me and that's fine it doesn't bother me that you disagree with me there's been many people I mean if you look at great people in the past even I rushed the Maliki legend if you look at the great Sufi even arabe and his writings many of it he's highly revered by the Sufis he said many similar he said this kind he said exactly this but this is just all symbolic and he said that even when God says he's gonna punish people it's just a lower sense of mercy like it's still he's gonna reward them that's what he meant and he said that comes from the

widow Zuba from sweetness but my point of saying this is that look there are certain proper concepts which are problematic to many people and I would accept that they're problematic so if we were to say that things like let's let's say you've done a crime and for that crime you must be burnt there is an element of a punishment being commensurate and many people will find this comes

in Contin clash sorry in in contrast they will find it kind of clashing with the concept of compassion the concept of mercy the concept of they will find it many people most Muslims just don't think about it that deeply but if they did they will struggle because to them they will think well you know shouldn't really be like that so this is why I've said rope this is my reading of the Quran I feel that this imagery was there and it was there really for the for the

people it was revealed to and we are just an extension so saying that the Quran is enticing men towards let's say shade but if you lived in a cold part of the world if you lived in Antarctica or the north you know Arctic or Alaska I mean telling you that Heaven's gonna have shade it's not really appealing to you well telling you that look heaven is gonna have rivers of milk no I mean I don't think most men today in this part of the world find that appealing at all in fact I'm sure many people will find it quite the

opposite they don't want a river of honey like I wouldn't want a river of honey yeah wouldn't want a river of milk but these kind of things were all appeal to when they were revealed so it just used imagery that would resonate with the people that's all so and you can disagree with that that's fine I'm not asking and there's many people who will take this literally there's others who will take it metaphorically and others who would take it symbolically and I've got rock detailed videos on YouTube where I discuss this you can watch that and that's fine but I think you know what's Lots shock

what's interesting and amusing and also depressing for not as in depressing for me but depressing to think about what other people are going through people that there are what these people are trying to I mean miserably obviously if they're failing I mean it doesn't work with me but but with the amongst themselves they are bullying people into beliefs like let's bully this person because he believes something a bit different

believes people believes not even you know this bullying of all kinds this bullying of and bullies are always just evil right miserable low lives but there's bullying in institutions bullying in schools bullying in in workplaces in all kinds of environment this bullying of that nature that exists everywhere and this is to bully somebody so they they can't even be free in their beliefs how

miserable is that that they won't even they don't want people to be able to just believe for themselves like no no we must control this person's belief structure that is such a miserable existence to live like that and what why he one of the things I'm so grateful for is that I've kind that Allah gave me the circumstances to kind of leave this religious people bubble that I'm not really I mean I'm obviously what I say

impacts them and they have to respond to me and things like but my day-to-day life has nothing to do with like religious that religious people bubble at all and I love it honestly I'm so he is one of if I could give you guys advice those of you that are religious gradually build your you know expand this bubble and then burst it and then just live your life I mean be true to your faith but leave it being and genuine to yourself don't be in these religious bubbles of religious

people some of the most judgmental places to be trapped in honestly I'm being honest about these that like I spoke last week about Sharia so father you know today I bumped into somebody and we at the hairdresser's I like you do and we had this brief chat about this and we spoke about certain things and we mentioned this thing about shitty-ass our body now share he also called the just saying a few things and getting so much slack I can say anything I can do

anything I dress how I want I do what I want I believe what I want what makes sense to me I speak it I teach it I live it and I don't care and what these people have to say does not bother me and yet in this way with this attitude Allah has granted me the love of so many people they find solace in my words but yet these people in these bubbles they taste they have to watch every word so

carefully share hey I said are they made a simple example of saying things like oh this the Islamic world and the Islamic you know that kind of institutionalized ways like the Newtonian way and today it's like the you know very nine Stein's world and we need to kind of upgrade our way of thinking he got so much slack and he's probably gonna have to justify what he said and he's gonna have to kind of like clay gymnastics and explain because he's worried about the crowd forget that crap forget these people man you understand be true to who you are

leave this this in this world I tell you it will be the greatest regret that you have you know those of you that are familiar with who started the Osama cannon a great you know an amazing inspiration from the states who unfortunately is is suffering with a terminal illness ALS and going through which is a neuronal degenerative kind of [Music] illness now in his in current times it's

impacted his his speech because it's kind of causing everything to dilapidate me law you know grant amis my luck around his family is he's an amazing he was an amazing person did great work and is doing great work now in in this time when his speech and these things have been impeded he's exploring so he's still on social media is still kind of active in and people write things up for him and things like that and and he says that he's been exploring things like music and how it gives him solace and how it helps him and these kind of

things and he's he said you know one of these greatest kind of regrets if you like is the fact that for so long he deprived himself of being of of this just because of what others you know following what these ships will say and what that mallanna will say and what this person will say and and and you know that in a way like expressing in a way that I wish I'd never really just just lived real and true for myself but that's what this life is people that's what Allah has given you as a gift

he's giving you a mind use it leave it don't don't be trapped in this bubble don't let people bully you into believing things that oh if you don't believe this list of things we will bully you they can't believe you who they this is twenty nineteen people you know we're not living in something like 1642 that this the audacity that people have and it is exactly that very nature that monstrous nature that monstrosity that has chased chased people from what I

believe is this beautiful theme its chase people away from and people may say that I'm crazy and eccentric and i chat all kinds of things maybe I do but I can tell you that by nothing from what I've said has a person ever left this thing but many many have come back to it and found solace in the faith by words that I have said so surely they must carry some meaning that there must be something in them in this way of thinking yet these people this kind of

Taliban eyes this kind of caveman culture of trying to force faith this kind of policing people's ideas this is the antithesis of what Islam came this this Deen was born three people yet today they've locked it in Chains the prophet sallallahu alayhi wasallam never taught people creed if you cannot find a single hadith that mentions beyond a handful of things in what to believe in believe in God that they will things

will not end in this life that there was revelation and that God is so powerful that this was it for over a hundred and fifty years the self of this Ummah people real from the Sahaba from the turban in from the earth about tapping into the likes of imam malik the dawn of al-madinah never taught people Dogma they never taught they never wrote down what you're meant to believe it was wisdom in that return to the way of the cell of people the age of the mullahs is

over okay the rain has been lost people that what I would say is that look think for yourself that's what this theme came for if I could give any kind of advice and just be don't allow this to just kind of permeate the Muslim scene because it will just really destroy the face of Islam so that if I can give you know if you can take any message from what I'm saying take that right I would write following on from

that right following on from so that's this this article that these people were saying with Abdullah Gunda all right I think I just saw on here it said that Abdullah Gundel was on it too named Louis Allen a Louis Allen Muhammad eat right so people build bridges talk to people with a Muslim non-muslim ex-muslim apostate whatever talk to them okay and it's great to talk and when people have opposite ideas I think we

should have dialogue okay I've I've asked as well because I know that stars [Music] Daniel Harkavy the Jew has spoken in the past about apostasy I've asked Daniel hockey withdrew for a dialogue on apostasy let's see if he accepts if he does accept I think it would be amazing it would be amazing so that I think because we need to kind of discuss things okay cool so moving on right from

one controversy to another and from symbolism from the words of rally that humko Jeanette key haqeeqat maloom helican that we know the reality of Janna lake him uncle Janet key haqeeqat maloom awaken DK ho sharokina khojali [Laughter] he says Holly but it is an idea that

does bring some comfort to the heart I love these people honestly they you know if you could do away with the mullahs and bring the poet's in we would have an amazing honestly so I would advise people always learn more about these people the poet's as opposed to I mean have some link with obviously anyway let's move on to the next controversy one after the other so Sharia oopy Sahib right what is coming on with

chef yaku be right so first of all there was a video somebody sent me chef yaku B was discussing some of my comments in a very heated and passionate kind of response saying this person how dare he mock a man noe and how dare he say these things about homosexuality and then how dare he you know and he calls himself a Mufti how to be honest okay cooky baath karenge cook kooky bathwater

so we should we kind of speak honestly and free I was I was kind of amazed that he would actually speak about me in a public gathering and and partially flattered you eminently eminently flattering some closing you know then mera dr.

Conoley right so I thought okay this is interesting because I wouldn't have thought that Kobe would make a reference in a public place to me saying that you know this guy called himself a Mufti and is from here from the UK and obviously who else is they healthy either Oh click you know if you just use the word Musti on its own for either be he Hardy muqam right you're Harding but Donna cheese okay

Rheda be he I believe al-maliki right so so there's this whole homosexuality thing and Imam no bees comment and I'm gonna come to that but just speaking about chef yaku be now I have actually I don't have anything against chef yaku sorry his eminence what is this Eminence thing about by the way I mean royalty no what's this royalty thing

I mean who calls himself his eminence I know he's gonna say I don't call myself but he doesn't stop it either stop teasing me this one right I don't call myself the most graceful but if you guys call me I don't mind either you know don't mind I don't mind so he cools he doesn't cook okay but I he's definitely okay with it this is definitely rolling with it this his

eminence royalty look at the end of the day I think to be fee as far as Pete sobs go and shares go I actually like chef Mohammed yaqoob' he's as far as they generally go he's from the more level-headed kind of you know peeves of tariqas these peeves who lead a whole it is in essence a cult right but they lead a coat but he's definitely much more balanced he's

much more and he is knowledgeable I mean I don't know exactly how knowledgeable because I've not never really watched anything with in like with actual where he the one two things I've seen they're just like generic talks they just like you know just be good and be nice so I don't I've never seen him discuss a like a deep issue I mean maybe he hasn't put those videos up on online but if he does that would be awesome we'd get to see that side but I would believe that he definitely comes from a family of scholars and he he's not just like one of these Peter sobs that is just like

you know doesn't know anything and just just got handed a silver spoon he's not like that in fact many years ago our paths cross crossed over two decades ago in Damascus at that time chef yaku B Saab was he was he was nothing special really and had no real importance in that sense to him I mean I know his father was really esteemed in in Syria at that time but in the late 90s I met him was it the late

90s or early 2000s ago I met him in Damascus just briefly and just shook him nothing that he would remember of course it's you know the problem with me is that it's not when you first meet me it's our second meeting if our paths cross again and then be sure to note that they will this time they will not go unnoticed but the first time I don't expect him to remember me but he was not

somebody of great prominence in Damascus at that time he was known as in like you know of him but they weren't people around him he never had that kind of entourage she never had that you know share share share say the everything none of that business he was just like a normal guy just walking I think he was teaching her one of the Institute's and he would just come out just normal you know you could just go up to him people did they didn't know who he was that he was this chef and he's still a chef in all of all of our years today but he just was like a regular like an academic like that but respected revered I'm not saying people disrespected him but he never had this

court at all not even remotely at that stage unbeknownst to him the future was to unfold many things amongst them great power so over the years he's obviously chef Jacoby has come to the UK but this is nothing new Shelia ooby had been coming to the UK for many years never gained any serious prominence he used to come down south and people would take him on tour tours and things like this but I

think it was around maybe the late 2000s maybe it was around 2010 or maybe a bit before that maybe like 2000 NATO's and I I don't know exactly but it was around the late 2000s that there were some politics went on and he the people that used to involve themselves with Yahoo be kind of ditched him and they boycotted him and I think they claimed there was some scandal or something but I don't know usually scandals are always to do with women usually but I whatever the situation was by suppose that's buried

why did I mention it are they gonna hate me was it relax I'm sure he's answered a I'm sure he's on today but there was whatever so they left him chef yaku be was then kind of fostered by people up north now in the north within the UK we have Midlands and North we have a very strong Braille V community now what she'll hear ruby was to discover was that there was a great potential hidden within the DC community that he hadn't realized the kind of

level of devotion borderline hero worship that goes on within the DC community I don't think he was truly exposed to that because the people he was exposed to in Damascus were kind of like students that were going over from America and from and they weren't that kind of they weren't the kind of hero worship kind of there were that maybe one or two but not so many now he then embarked on this thing and you can see this transformation so he comes to Birmingham and he comes to come call via you'll see one of his great initial

speeches of chef yaku B was one way he actually praised Mawlana a charlatan we the great the open D scholar in a Brill we must a mistake that chef yaku B was swiftly to learn that is never to be repeated so she could be soon I climb a ties to the kind of DC politics of the do Bundy's embroideries and quite swiftly in time with distance himself completely from the open the kind of heritage of the subcontinent not entirely but he would kind of go a bit

quiet on it because he realized that okay the market lies with the brilliance the really is really absorbed share yahoo be i mean he could not share the aku be could not give them enough he completely consumed anything that he had to offer and wanted more so chef yaku be really found you know like they say in arabic like what did that Barletta who you know he found what he was looking for this this was it I mean he rose to

great prominence on the back of the DC community within the Midlands and the north of England because they took it to another level I mean we're talking about unfathomable doors unlocking doors of wealth prosperity money power dynamism it's amazing people with great you know people that run corporations and things like this they will back you as a beer sub so his shift kind of really wound to this you see this and then he kind of comfortably settled as this tariqa I've run this study are you're all my kind of

mureeds and really took these bites rains and that is the making of what you have now as chef Muhammad his eminence alia Kobe Sahib and as far as beef subs go I don't actually mind him I think he's actually definitely better and a good version of the beef sauce because they can be highly exploitative highly exploitative beat subs can be and they usually are they're usually very abusive usually all about power money things like this but I mean definitely he is a he's from the

better kind of if you are to join they said to me all of these practices are codes but if you are to join a cult then I suppose his cult is definitely a better and less harmful cult to be in then other cults I mean it doesn't mean it's scandal-free I mean there was this huge in the last two years a huge scandal to do with the charity SKT this charity which allegedly allegedly Messala I don't know the reality but apparently they were key devotees of chef yaku B who gave him a position of prominence which he then wished to take

over the entire charity and when they originally got rid of him eventually so he got rid of him he sent messages around saying everybody's to all my mureeds or to boycott that charity I mean him accusing them of mishandling funds but I think the Charity Commission did clear them but that's beyond the point maybe they whether they did mishandled funds it's not unbelievable but since Muslim charities are usually quite you know not always so scrupulous on these things but once again you can see this wielding this power mureeds

I want my Murray's to boycott this I bring this to the table the sense of power you know a two decades ago the chef yaku B that I that I fleetingly shaked hands with in the streets of Damascus could never have envisaged that a day would come when he would make a threat to wield such power against a huge million pound you know million pound strong at least or millions of pounds strong charity or an organization but so this is the the making of of these shakes of

tariqa so that's a bit of the kind of what we've got in front of us now chef yaku be his eminence he said about about me that I mocked Imam no we now I did not mock Imam no we to start off with firstly that's obviously I don't know whether he watched my whole thing I doubt he watched my whole thing which in that case he should not have passed judgment on it you know see I caught you out either you watched it in which case

are you teasing me you're watching my videos and if you say you didn't watch it then I'll say ah say you passed judgment on me without watching you naughty naughty this one check mate check check check mate so chef yaqoob' he he kind of got really worked up and you see the truth is truth be told the I don't make a claim I've read what imam know we had written i've got a lengthy

discussion on youtube which speaks about homosexuality and islam a diverse history in which i mentioned that look people in the past and it's a very nuanced come to say monologue i'm having a recording you can watch it by all means do watch it you like subscribe quick plug this so look however what i was simply doing was reading so i've read what amount no we said and i said look you have to acknowledge that imam noe is speaking as though it's a given so in his day and age he's assuming

everybody has a bisexual nature to them because he's saying that look oh because he writes in his book that everybody knows that young boys are far more you know prettier than many women that's building on a a kind of Cleveland a positive axiom if you like that everybody is bisexual in nature like if I said that so if I said for example imagine I said something

like look anybody that is left alone with a million pounds would would at least consider stealing it now you see when I make and I I would believe that I would say that because I would assume that most people by and large have the desires of temptation to of greed most we all have a sense of greed and you could say how control disagree but if I was to say any person left alone with a million pounds would have would be

tempted to steal it now I'm out no we saying any person left alone with a young boy would be tempted to have sex with him or at least look at him sexually now I wouldn't I would think [Music] that is creative quickly so you see now if somebody because he mom no we made that clean and he's not the only person many people before him maybe because in

the day and age they saw that as they kind of given now they weren't homosexual in today's day and age sense and I'm not saying ma'am no he was homosexual but I said he acknowledges a fundamental bisexuality that he feels is intrinsic in human nature and ubiquitous now just quote that back to me you see but he does feel that he feels that this is these people Oh you know this is a given that the dirt everybody would relate to what I'm

saying so and there's nothing so shocking about that that these the medieval Muslims that the medieval Arabs and the medieval kind of times people had a kind of sense of there was pederasty okay which is like what the Greeks had with boys that they had these sexual and romantic romantic relationships with boys and they felt a sense of attraction to boys and by boys they didn't mean they meant like boys in their mid late teens that's what they meant so Socrates speaks about it Plato Aristotle these people would have all

had relationships with boys through Symmachus who's a contemporary of Socrates says in his famous quote that as a young boy I seduced the men from their wives and as a grown man I seduced the wives from their men haha of a threesome a kiss guru I'll kick you Kimmy okay also another eminent philosopher of the past or similar curse was a also very intriguing philosopher who believed in my tease right but put that aside

fast-forward to I know we were simply articulating what an expressing was the sentiment of his age yes so I wasn't mocking him when I'm saying that I was saying what he was saying mocking if you if you mean by mocking I'm making this up it's written in his book and some were happy from Saudi tried to refute me on it why he made a live video that went on for an hour where he says this Abu layth guy is a deviant that jar howdy he said Said's I'm gonna read it out and he reads it out and go and he says and they are

prettier than most women or many women and he says well duh that's because he goes I can answer that that's because many women are ugly needless to say this guy look like a Neanderthal that had on that had gone long term that suffered from chronic depression himself that's what this Saudi Wahhabi looked like but yet he had the audacity to say many women are ugly I thought but see so this is this is the

thing it's like he could have just said this Saudi maja B could have just quite easily said I'm not gay he could have said I'm not gay it's just that this it's just that there's so many sexy boys around that's the equivalent of what's going on here right so so my and the other thing with his Eminence is imminence is his eminence because he's his eminence chef yaku be I just find that hilarious

his eminence he has released a new Buhari summary a copy of Buhari and I and because he made an advertising claim that is the most authentic copy on earth so I picked up on that because I have a thing me and Behati have a thing we so he chef Yahoo be said my copies based on the so far yeah but then every copy of ahadees is based on this whole time yeah so I don't know I think this has got back to him so now he's apparently backtracked and now apparently shikaku be saying no what I

meant was that my copy is based on the suit or Nia which is the most authentic copy so basically every copy of Behar EMF is the most oh sorry most the majority the overwhelming majority copies I don't mean some exceptional ones the overwhelming majority copies of Buhari on earth or the most authentic copies that's the equivalent of me saying this athlete is the best and then when you say but really that guy outperformed him in this and this guy outperformed him in

this and this guy I performed him this I say no no my friend right number run door number next door what I mean this athlete is the best this athlete is human and humans are best so this one best price I give you you know this unvested eyes so the response was that this athlete he human being human being best best best so so because this is Sultan here all

copies of Tanya Sultana copy best Wow Wow love you love you why sure so this this is but obviously these kind of things go on why but this look this is really just business I've got nothing against business I'm I love business in saving rosy no Private Ryan the other one with where is that C way the small e pirate he says I am NOT I know

Osama bin Laden I am businessman so this this captain Phillips Nazi so I love business I've got nothing against business and I think look this is a business thing and that's fine and I feel that what chef yaku B's journey like many others and before him it's gone from the word which is the the kind of message to adding the flesh which is

the corpus people you see now once you add Hoppus it is from there only a tiny step to cooperation 1 2 car for as a mil kaput subset I want to go for this is so it doesn't take long and I'm not against that and that's all fine may may Allah give him more money more money and more money sub good idea may Allah give everybody why not share Taku be so that

I've got nothing against but I just feel that using you know like these kind of tactics is problematic it's big problem no way no not nice you know they son and I would love to have a discussion with Chef Yahoo bein Sahil Bihari if he claims I watched a clip of chef yaku be saying it's impossible impossible to doubt side I thought sure confidence to

mine nobody what is the poet say he says forget the jelly cartoon a hunk o Bhima saw some joy I'm torn angel Georgia job charlie Maccabi large I you know he says that we're not the Mount Sinai that we will just crumble home tornado gel giant Charlie Mugabe logic now whenever you

want come face to face I would love to have a discussion because each this this claim that it's impossible to prove to have any doubt with Sahil Bihari becomes [Music] complete Otto so yep so if chef Thiago be does watch this and you would love to and if he's interested I would love I'd be honored to have a you would be respectful be civil the propriety of his Eminence

would be maintained I would maintain the etiquettes so right so about and they can give me the list of but they can't tell me done it don't they dare tell me you're not allowed to I will be myself but I won't be out it will be very civil very friendly but I know it would never happen Jesse I could be calm Laurens a bad thing good thing but anyway so that's chef yaku be let's move on right so very quickly speaking about chef oh my god is that the time yes l am speaking about my

other beloved c1 after back to back back to back now we've been killing it today right back-to-back sessions right so I had just make like a whatsapp group and call my this is like these are like my ex's from another universe [Laughter] you know this is like in case I felt like left out that why didn't I get any bitter exes so so I get these guys who just get obsessed with me so people let's come to one of our beloved's our

Dilber journey me amor me Corazon how are you doing so shake us rods video recently surfaced in which it's called refutation of Abu layth in which in is usually position awkwardly position angle he's sitting there and he's refuting me saying that I can't believe this undergraduate of Adar lalume by the

way I don't know what that means but he doesn't use my name anymore mera naam you name it first he would you on everything non-stop call me by my name you want to know the village I was from you want to know everything up mera naam banality you know now he doesn't call me by my name have you he gave me yeah we did the barter for him are ok yeah the santa sake you know I'm like hey hey

why doesn't he call my name so she has Rob who now just refers to mean the third person hi hi you better let me do that the one Sheikh Hassan is probably thinking if I say his name lo Carson Lok accent this is the so sahasrara has this video where he's refuting me and saying these are the

schoolboy errors schoolboy errors errors this so cool of these making skill what must one disppointed rather nauseating the schoolboy errors persistently committed by this cooler and the graduate so I I watched it I thought yeah maybe my beloved right one thing I gotta give share this around though he

doesn't follow any kind of tariqa I gotta give him that no it's not he's not an acolyte he doesn't like he doesn't follow any kind of tariqa and things like that not cool I mean he has a cult of arguably but it's not at the Ricoh so I respect where respect is so I thought what maybe my miyamura is about to bring me back to the path maybe he will guide me maybe he will show me the light but chance this may happen but no he

just went on and on and on and didn't answer any of the questions so after watching it I thought where's my phone where's my beloved shakers Rob's number let me send this one a message you know I said my beloved fear I have watched the Orpheum your reputation so I sent him a message I said chef very nice respectful message

I even put a love heart in there I did I put a love heart I said stay blessed love heart I put I said look share I watched your clip and I said how about a conversation on Sahadi how about a dialogue you and me I said look I've made the claim that there are systemic issues with SIA body you've responded by saying these are easily easily answerable so how about we have a chat over some tea and easily since they're easily answerable it shouldn't

be a problem a dialogue what say you so lo and behold after I send this message this message no gets sent you know can it be that I am blocked my beloved has blocked me deliver Johnny deliver deliver all right it's an ocarina it's a Duke : both do copy so I I was kind of like oh my god

he didn't be dick Motta I had to see this day when she has wrought but then it appears it transpires people that he's changed his number but then I got the message to him alhamdulillah all safe and sound in like in the good old days they used to say hello real borough you get a cassette the old cassettes and they used to record him the Pakistanis did and he send them back to the village right so I got the I got the message through to him so his response is that this is an old clip from last year and I have not done this

recently so you know so you're barking up the wrong tree I mean you never said barking up the wrong tree that's my voice I don't want I don't want him to say I never said that I know I did not say that so he said that this is an old clip from last year I said TK Murray John that may be so but my offer for you still stands poorest it still stands so chef Esther out said I'll think about it in my own time so people that was the the end that's

why we so we've been left on a cliff and yet unfortunately he hasn't accepted but it would be awesome to have a discussion with him to have a discussion with chef yaku bees up to have a discussion with any of these colors on Sahel Bihari it will be civil and thoroughly enjoyable confidence though here do I even know anything oh I just am I just blanking these confidence [Laughter]

my guru once told me fake it till you make it so I thought okay this is all just alright people anyway guys I think we got a gonna have to wrap this up you guys have been awesome you've really hacked it through so that's really if anything my message that look people it's always great to talk do not under any circumstances let people ever ever bully you into believing something your mind people must always be free okay the mind

to me is the raw okay and the raw comes to us in a lillahi well in that this comes to us from Allah wanna fauna Allah infused this into Adam wanna nah Fahim Moroni okay so these people is something if anything you are to consider like so overwhelmingly amazing with a line aligning a sacred lining it

is the mind in his consciousness and so never allow people to bully you into beliefs your beliefs should be upon your your own choices okay but if you wish to follow you know if you wish to be an acolyte follow a particular cult or whatever then fine but in all honesty the problem with that is that you see these things these people are human beings and they may rise and they may fall now one of the things I mentioned earlier on that I'm so grateful now for law and for

inspiring me to be able to express myself it's just to be true I can be like this I don't claim to be holy I don't I don't even I'm not even part of these holy religious bubbles and I don't want to be I just want to be with normal people the good the bad okay me fresh donkey so but K like me I'm Safari each I goo nagas that I'm not really suitable to to to walk with the Angels right I need a sinner accompany me in this journey of mine and

Michaela each a lot ah Johnny Damon Dillman got logs art art a gay or Karam up and tuck that this is just a journey I've set out on my own and it's people that I've joined along the way that they've given extended their love and support so people with that remember me in your kind of Azmi Allah forever keep you smiling laughing and may he fill your lives with joy have an awesome evening wherever you are Salam aleikum what happened to light Allah or butter cattle