Hadith About Entertainment Or Music? | Dogma And Reason | Mufti Abu Layth

a moment shukran much love for the Super Chat could you give the explanation of why the hadiths about music translate the word as entertainment I couldn't find it in your videos sure I mean I do have I'm pretty sure I have uh some detailed videos on music you can watch them yeah so the the word that is used in the actual Hadith is mahasif from massive that word in itself doesn't mean music so maybe people are using it to mean

music which is fine because music comes from entertainment so the actual definition of massive in Arabic is that thing by which one is entertained so then maybe the collective or the kind of order fee Maybe by Earth convention people start to use that to mean refer more so to music so for example when I say entertainment today what comes to your mind so you may say well music dancing and stuff and I may say well why

entertainment in itself doesn't mean music or dancing entertainment means to be to entertain someone I could Entertain You by telling you jokes but yet that won't come to your mind when I say the word entertainment but if I said it like that then you'd say yeah sure that too is entertainment I get it I could Entertain You by by telling you a story I could Entertain You by telling you poetry I could Entertain You by meaningful conversation but yet these words won't come to your mind

um when you hear the word entertainment that's because your understanding may be shaped by the convention in which you live okay and the the culture so anyway the word is not the Arabic word for musica it's not so they are required musica does exist or for example um they so the prophet salallahu could have let's say this Hadith those who accept this Hadith first of all because there's a difference of opinion on these things some people don't believe these Hadith to be authentic to start off with

uh obviously amongst them IBN hazam and other people then these are great now one may say well I disagree with IBN hazam and all these people sure that's fine you can disagree but see when you disagree just be you see you have to understand you have to be confident to to accept and to disagree with courtesy because the problem is that people when they disagree with something they start becoming rude

start becoming Offensive start attacking start you don't need to relax yourself you know you know this this whole thing is just sure whatever you believe go with you know if you say look I believe this here means this fine you're not the first many people in fact one could argue the majority have gone with that now sure got your way of looking at it majority of the scholars went with music is Haram hmm and you find yourself comfortable you find yourself in that crowd I'm sure

you're amongst many great names and you know great company other Scholars challenge that and some challenged it more than others some felt well maybe some music is okay some felt no music is Haram and they obviously all argued it so some of these people who said music is Haram used these Hadith to say well this Hadith is speaking about musical instruments when it's using the word maasif uh they also said things like

um that had the Quran doesn't like people to be distracted and so they use generic arguments and they used a lot of other Hadith as well which I'm not really so strong so they and some are fabricated and some are just weak and they used Hadith like the prophet said I have been sent to break the musical instruments I have whoever listens to music will have malt you know what is it lead poured into his ear or things like that see once again very scary kind of stuff was used and then you have some people will say well

ah but doesn't everybody say so so so on this side of the fence people would argue well okay but what about drums then the prophet Alliance and listen to drums and they say well okay well drums are okay then so um okay why are drums okay because either God likes music or he doesn't like music I say well he doesn't mind drums but he just doesn't like the other things so what are the other things so well blowing

to this whistling it's whistling Haram so some people on this side of the fence will say well whistling is Haram I don't think most people will consider whistling Haram if it wasn't just whistled they may say it's not good or it's whatever but they won't say it's Haram so say well okay so God he where does it you know where's the ruling on whistling and you say well okay well whistling ain't Haram but blowing into a tube that has some holes on it and it makes some sounds like a flute is Haram okay so God doesn't like but he's okay

with drums so yeah he's okay with drums some will say no he's not okay with drums then some say well actually he's okay with with blowing instruments because there's a Hadith in termidi that the prophet is walking with ibrahamar and somebody's playing a flute and the prophet tells him tell me when we can't hear him anymore so they're walking away and so the prophet's actually instructing him to listen and tell him but if it was Haram then isn't he going to get lead poured into his ears so how can the prophet instruct somebody to do something Haram

so well okay so this group of people said well okay so blowing instruments can't be Haram so okay so what is Haram then so there's a group in the middle that said well drums and things like trumpets and stuff ain't Haram because they used to use them in war says okay but string the instrument Sahara so like guitars and so they say okay so God doesn't mind drums and according to these people he doesn't mind blowing instruments but he draws the line at stringed

instruments so well why and say well see well this group will say well you're not allowed to question why and sure that's fine you know if you if you're from that group follow that but these people will say well no because we're allowed to question all of these so why are we not allowed to question that one they will say well where does the prophet say about stringed instruments there's no Hadith about string the instruments so if it's all instruments like that group over there or it's no instrument but to

say well it's all instruments except this and accept this and accept this well why are we leaving well what does the screen do it's just vibrations so so this group would ask well why would it why does God have a problem with vibrations because it's just sound why does That's So they would argue that will nature make sound and God has set up the world with sound and sound is just ultimately vibrations and so why would God condemn sounds it doesn't to them it doesn't make any

sense that truly everything God says must always make sense now this group will say well no we don't believe that everything God says has to make sense and therefore we believe in Dogma and that's okay you know if you're part of that group and you follow that that's fine that's how you worship Allah that's your devotion you just practice you don't you should not then listen to any music you should not engage in any music you should because it's Haram for you but for these people they don't believe it's Haram that's their way of looking at the Deen you know you're not you're

not here to see how does the rest of the world do it you it's just your devotion so if you want to and these people would argue that there's no such sahih Hadith ever and nothing in the Quran that says music is Haram and obviously shokhani has a very good elaborate discussion on that himself in spite being a very you know I won't say he's a uh he's he's he's clearly a man of Hadith if we can use that term he's clearly of the hadithi persuasion like a strong hadithi

persuasion I don't even mean like the Maliki hanafi like I'm talking the chef kind of persuasion of Hadith so when a scholar like shokani does a a grand analysis an evaluation of all the Assad it's in his final volume I think it's the final one yeah it's the final one I think so it's he concludes as well that actually concluding all of this you can't say that that musical instruments are Haram although he himself footnotes it by saying but I would argue

against like I would personally Advocate that people don't get into music and that's fine that's his personal choice and personal and that's welcome and if people are doing that but he himself says but you know what looking at all of this one cannot say this he says there is nothing established in the Quran that is clear to say that music is Haram now that's his now this is this Camp over here is a minority Camp okay this is a small quantity of people now the majority of the people fall more so over here now it's up to you you can follow the majority you can follow them

you can follow these people say music is Haram wherever you follow this is all Islam you know it's not this is not just Islam this is not just Islam these people are not just Islam all of this is Islam this is the the beautiful diversity of Islam there's different ways of looking at things some people they look at things and they say well no this is how I follow Islam I'm I don't ever question and that's you know what that's an incredible level of submission one must admire the submission don't

have to agree with it other people like Imam Abu hanifa Imam Malik they're very clear that no no Islam has to come Allah that all the akam in Islam that we that they that that the rulings always have a reason for being Haram they're not just Haram it's not just it's not a ritual ritual is only worship so all other actions have a an objective to them so you have to be able to understand the objective so that's that kind of group

but people disagree sometimes people hold a principle but they don't practice it so you might get some people saying like many hanafies now they say that the AKA must always be they must always have a clear reason and objective to why this thing is halal but yet many hanafis will also say music is Haram and they won't question it true that's nature see people sometimes are fluid they have a principle maybe they don't practice it here maybe they practice it somewhere else it's up to them their life let people be stop obsessing over the other

you practice see when you look at it who do you follow who do where do you fall in line people say well I don't know to follow maybe you watch something maybe you make a choice all of it is Islam you're not gonna you're not gonna miss the mark but whatever you choose you see to some people music is a wreck ruins them some people surprisingly it ruins some people sure I I read a quote the other day somebody some comment some person said look I used to be into music and my life

was it was a nightmare and then I I kind of I've got serious about Islam and I stopped this and and now their life is is in order alhamdulillah more power to them you know some people need a certain discipline otherwise they'll be ruined so more power to that person keep going other people music as in Urdu they say it is nourishes the soul many people they feel that music it it connects the soul to the divine more power to them we are not

here to control other people we devote ourselves to what we follow that is I think the one of the most important steps for a person when they take their Deen seriously to learn as the Quran says you are not here to control them let them be you say oh but they're doing sins according to you according to you but you're not doing that sin not according to them see they're following different people you say oh but I think those people are

wrong but you know what right now it doesn't matter what you think the other people are you know Allah has not made you love to think about what other people are all thinking it doesn't matter they have the HD heart your village they had follow it this is true Islam submission submit when the nafs doesn't even want you oh wow I don't want them to listen to me so I don't want them I I I'm trying to save them from the Hellfire relax submit

surrender let go Allah this is the biggest battle of the nafs that a person will find in faith is learning to let go to surrender well I'll leave you with that let's move on