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Shaykh Sidi Iqbal | Madrasas, Maliki Madhab & Medicine from the Prophet | MindTrap with Mufti #6

salaah namaz salaat namaaz as-salah al-salah salawat zakah zakaat zakah al-mal zakat al-mal obligatory charity haj pilgrimage hadj fiqh fiqah fikh hadeeth ahadith ahaadeeth hadis ahaadith saheeh sahih hadith saheeh hadith sound hadith madhhab mazhab school of law madhahib mazahib madhaahib malik ibn anas malik bin anas imam maalik imam malik ibn anas al-bukhari imam bukhari sahih al-bukhari saheeh al-bukhari saheeh bukhari imam al-bukhari al-ghazali imam al-ghazali jumu'ah jummah jumma jumah salat al-jumuah friday prayer takbir takbeer takbirat takbeerat azan azaan athan adhaan call to prayer imaam prayer leader salat al-janazah namaz-e-janaza janaza prayer janazah prayer funeral prayer ramadhan ramzan ramazan ramadaan masjed masaajid maaliki malikite malikiyyah maliki school fatwah fatawa fatwaa fataawa legal opinion muftis haraam forbidden mubah mubaah fard farz faraid fard ayn fard kifayah fardh sunna sunan prophetic practice dalil daleel adillah adilla proof ribaa sood interest usury iman imaan eemaan eeman asharis ashaira asha'irah ashariyyah ash'arite jahannam jahanam jahannum quraan al-quran aya ayat ayaat aayah aayat verse qira'at qira'ah qiraa'aat qira'aat tilawah tilawat tilaawah hifz hafidh haafiz hifdh huffaz hafiza memorisation wahy wahi wahee sahabah sahabi sahabiyyah sahabiyat hijrah hijra hijrat migration madinah madina al-madinah madeenah yathrib ahl al-sunnah ahl as-sunnah ahlus sunnah ahl al-sunna sunnis shiah shiite shi'i twelver ithna ashari salafi salafism wahhabi wahabi wahhabism sufism soofi 'alim aalim ulama ulema ulamaa shaikh sheik shuyukh shaykhs umma community takfir takfiri takfeeri fitnah fitna fitan strife madrasa madrassa madaris madrassah religious school deobandis deoband in sha allah insha'allah in shaa allah insha allah inshaa allah alhamdulillah alhamdulilah al-hamdu lillah alhumdulillah alhamdulillaah subhan allah subhaanallah subhanallaah ma sha allah masha'allah masha allah mashaa allah as-salamu alaykum assalamualaikum salaams salam alaykum wa alaykum as-salam peace greeting barakah barakat barkat baraqah blessing al-din ad-deen ad-din ibadah ibada ibaadah ibadat rahmah rahma rahmat

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Oh fry people are fry in al hamdulillah wa kafa o salatu salam o allah so little Mustafa well everybody live in October woman be Hotel method will be our third Medina tougher bad for Salaam allahi allah o allah o silent people right I'm just checking that you guys I it's come through it's live let me just check with

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going on people but if my volumes if the voice is coming through fine yep give me a shout I'm just pressing share on here and then we're moving on midnight warriors that's what it is here it is people I'm just I've just seen it here just click share right

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there you go that's been [ __ ] all right so people still haven't really affirmed because sometimes there have been some issues let's move on people they're saying of rye yep everything sounds good that is awesome right today's guest people Allahu Akbar I have a treat in store picture profile you're seeing right before you tonight esteemed guest is none other than chef

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see the mohammed iqbal legend in Maliki v one of it is seriously and not only an honor but an amazing opportunity to bring before you tonight share city well he's from Birmingham generally will be speaking in much detail with him on a variety of topics he is not only a personal teacher to me somebody who I've benefited from immensely but who I also consider to be one of the most

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outstanding scholars within Islamic Sciences and Islamic thought within throughout the West and the english-speaking world I genuinely believe that now I'm going to bring on our guest right here Allah Akbar CD assalamu alaikum wa rahmatu Leiter I know but occur to you are live very careful you know when city power haryana from

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Cairo Egypt when people introduce him you know they go over the top on he just says you have you have a very good opinion this is I'm trying to be as genuine as so mashallah shukran first of all for taking the time out now I've write CD you're somebody who has

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gone through a very profound journey of studying and then teaching Islam throughout your own lifetime you've gone through many kind of you know many dynamics in this journey of yours to shed some light on that for our for our viewers people who are not familiar I mean your own path what when did this begin what kind of inspired it would you shed some light on that for people in

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the early 1980s in Birmingham when I started taking the Dean seriously so when I crumbled for Muhammad Allah never limited myself to you know attending one mosque I used to pray in a bravery mosque on Adil Bundy mosque about time and my family background they're not very religious people so there wasn't that much knowledge or understanding of

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the scene when I left and came to Birmingham my I still had some understanding but you know ended up where I ended up I used to it in both mosques you know the very end the day over the mosque you know from following him a more hanifa underlying I should be able to access you know a book he wrote he had does he have a book is there something that I could access I would be given you know when the Braille real mosques you know the understanding of the bravery scholarship are in the day opened a mosque you know the understanding of

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railway scholarship and right from my childhood have always been a bookworm and hands with library at that time I'd read all the books that the library had on East on Islam and I saw a poster there which said learn Arabic so I phoned and started learning Arabic and the teacher was a Moroccan and it's there when my journey literally

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begins because what I started sharing the conversation with him the teacher his name was a city of Bursa a lobby you know when from Baraka from Casablanca where he's retired to from the UK and I used to study Arabic more or less you know when for six years and Quran I learned from an understanding of

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wash and just to get an idea I was in my 20s you know Marty's my mid-20s and mature illiterate is anyway so I said my situation with City averse and he said then why don't you read the motto so I got myself you know a translation from you know Elijah Beauty some translation

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I I started reading it and to me it was like revelation because why why I say that is that you had someone who was any man in the eyes of the Dean and he'd all for the book he's giving you the hadith of the prophet all along a loose alone then you know the Amal on it of the sovereign and then if he would comment that you know this is the best of heard and so on it's that was one of

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the reasons why I became a Malachy because there was direct access to the thinking and understanding first of the Imam and second there was no baggage there if I attended a Braley mosque it was you know you know their baggage if I attended the Deobandi mosque it was their package and either one would say no you shouldn't attend that mosque and the meeting with them see the Abbas was

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that you know his advice was attend all what I did actually start him praying with subtle it was problematic I I used to you know him fold my arms and then you know the folding wasn't a problem then you know he sits like a woman nice finger in the Braille V mosque you know the straw that broke the camel's back was that someone in Jamaat folded my

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arms though from behind not not a friend someone folded my arms and I said to hell with this from that day onward I stopped doing cup in public you stop doing subtle and started doing cult know were stopped okay I used to do nothing

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[Music] the farm and the the thing is that I was the only as far as I know you know the only Manichean Birmingham and it was you know a strange affair anyway you would go the people would think he was here and hungry like you know now I can go to any mosque no one bothers me okay I mean that's interesting are you saying that there's a there's been a development of tolerance over the decades or is it that

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is it something else I think there's more awareness now there's more I know that you know I tell you to me that was something CBO bass you know when he used to do come Pizza Maliki I learnt you know the basics of the Dean and the basics of the month of through him and he used to do come and he comes quite often to visit the UK and about about

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five years ago I saw him praying with sudden all along before he would you know because you know through him I was introduced to you know one of the great [Music] someone you know who shaped me my understanding and you know gave me the taste of the Dean that I have was you know our chef in her soul from City

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Hamza of the line he passed away in 2017 and he would you know show me photos of him with God and my response would be he's my chef into solve not in fact you know I took so much from him as well because he was a qualified Maliki heileen he's finished the whole syllabus of the Carolene up there branch in

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Worcester and his specialization in Elm was you know the Syrah and Arabic grammar but you know people arrived him there would be you know when people who did folded their arms and there were people who left their arms by the side to him it was irrelevant the important thing was that you prayed well initially you've obviously started learning you've come across the school of Medina which is the Maliki method through chef city a bus who's and that's kind of

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coincidental that he was then happen to be Moroccan happened to be Maliki but as you're learning developed over the over the year of the years to come what is it that really struck out about because you're very passionate about the school of Medina about the Malcolm Adam what is it that struck out about this way of thought this school to you to me it there's a there isn't that much I'm sorry let me let me clarify what I'm

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trying to say is that with imam abu hanifa all you know all the other imams they are bringing evidences for the reason why they are doing such and such yeah with imam malik he is not trying to say that because of this evidence this is how it should be done with imam malik is this is how things are done in a city from the time of the prophets all along a lucidum and by the way he is the evidence

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to me was because you see the whole thing when a loss final words Allah presents the prophets all along I lose a limb as an issuer yeah as a role model to be emulated so if there's a role model to be emulated did the prophets all along I love Salem you know just leave sayings behind that you know the compilers of the hadith works compiled because they compiled them according to their understanding but with you know the school of Medina they're saying look

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he actually left everything intact in this city because you see I say the eye shadow de la salon has said that you know every city other than Medina was you know oh overwhelmed by the sword but Medina was opened you know was overwhelmed by the Quran and this is the undisputed say what's so unique with the school of Medina compared to you know all the other schools oh you know the

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schools that are defunct that are not don't reach us by practice it would be the hot one thing would be Quran as you know the principal the firm is you go with the Quran now if the Quran affirms it fair enough if it doesn't then you look elsewhere it's something that you know Imam Malik you know in the auto beer you know that seal will be earned that even rushed

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just shaking it's picking it up it's picked it up on point one just check for point two alright it's picked it up on Facebook them to see the YouTube every year YouTube is not receiving enough video to maintain smooth but Frank

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all right apologies for that people we should be back live I've tried to what I've done this I've rebooted all of that I'm not sure if it's worked I do apologize if it was lagging its I think it's just the the connection today I don't know what it's all about but back to what you were saying sure he were speaking about your experiences explaining to us

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sorry for the interruption the there's just to reboot this so okay I mean the the school of madinat it's about this theme being a living tradition it's like the fame there is a statement of Imam Ali cuz somebody says he won't you know you want to study and imam malik says then take up residence in medina if you want to learn this theme for the quran was not revealed by the Euphrates he was here Dina it's a living tradition I mean so what are they rather another angle that

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always stood out for me about the school of Medina was it's the kind of emphasis it places on mass lahar as well I don't know if that something that stood out for you or not I'm kind of my posse than muscle hard is this also something that you feel are your thoughts on this yes but then you know the other schools will say that we have Muslim Han Mikasa Daz well again a claim needs to be proven

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but the school of Medina is known that you know we will always think to stick to our soul we will not you know budge from me even in the masala even in Musrara you'll find that you know where there's a need the need will be fulfilled staying within it's like you know we're sort of there are everyone has to do the right but as a man Coffey says that you know the Maliki's are the only one who have fought for the right which is the masala

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Hal Morris Eliza Nate it's your soul to where you can also derogate from a text to make something that is let's say deemed generally Haram maybe not Haram in this given context you yes and in our times now there is so much that needs its like him you know the closing of the mosques the Juma this would be you know you can't do it in normal times but these are exceptional times which you beat with this curve 819 crisis I don't know if you've come across [ __ ] I heard

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the interview by musty ducky and I see ee k Jamaat Nizam Athene kind of phenomenon that they've still you know they've still been kind of flooding the Masjid still going out on Jamaat still going I think what is they say that you know it's yeah team upon a line to what cool what are your thoughts on this the thing is that your team I'll tell you

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what I find something certain things and certain individuals you know shape your mind and your thinking and to me you know thirty million nearly forty years the one who shaped my mind and thinking was you know my shifted so the hands are of the land and to him he would always say I'll help you know I'll help o Allah that creation are the dependents of God that they are either you know a barrier

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to God yeah away to God close the door to God and I were you know I'm not saying that no reasonable slim who doesn't have you Keane in God but what happens is they forget what is God's they have you Keane in God but they forget what he is God you know Hulk is God the creation belongs to

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Allah it belongs to Allah they it is of God still sisters yeah and the thing is that you know look at the mercy that God has for us and look at you know these people they don't even have a fraction of that mercy for us and by us I mean you know the children of Adam yeah now if there was you know when I remember even Assad you know the greater yeah yeah he actually has a sealer which

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was translated into English quite some time ago it was the one I read was published by the Historical Society or some Historical Society from Karachi and I've never forgotten in there is a reference that the prophets all along a lucidum would have Scouts going out before him to check if there was you know anyone that would be disturbed with you know the the Sahaba rattle on you know it was like you know reservoir something if they're any damage would

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occur one of the scouts came back that you know when a [ __ ] has only given birth you know - I think okay the prophet sallallaahu Allison said we won't go that way we'll go another way because we don't want to disturb that the pups on the mother and with this you know your keen business hardly yakking but have mercy as well think about you know the other you know

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something that the Sufis specialize on and I rarely will you see it but you know with true people you will see it you know I thought caring for the other yeah and with this whole pandemic it's you know how we care for each other will you know show our real face yeah I would real you keen in you know God should be that you know we careful what is his which is creation because you know this

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covert nineteen this doesn't distinguish between a believer or non-believer yeah so you know when if you know those people who are you know beating the drum of your teen you know have a bit have some mercy now you see in these cases like Nozawa Dean some other places where they're not really budging I mean should the government step in with force should impose what should do you because I was

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actually quite surprised the Indian government hadn't imposed yet because I was thinking Pakistan has so or was this there was this some was their politics to this obviously I was a bit intrigued about that I don't know if today they have yesterday's news as far as I know that you know there have been bigger events organized by Hindus then you know what happened that Nozawa Dean but then you know we look at the fact they actually stopped there are others that you know have been carrying on the government you

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know governments should their their job is you know the welfare of their population so they should do everything that will you know preserve life which is you know the ultimate you know you were talking about McCarthy the ultimate moxford of the Deen is to preserve life absolutely absolutely yeah and where you know people are putting lives in danger the question is actually have they got what kind of understanding is this you

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know that brings us to I know the the current position of masajid maybe Madhuri's Islamic circles but entities within the Muslim world should these be at this stage nationalized I mean what are your thoughts because the movies I mean like I was watching this a sensible scholar like musty Turkey who is really arguing in a nonsensical fashion to say and just using religious zeal to kind of

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I don't know Riley the masses in saying that look the machines cannot be shot I mean if this has have they neglected the real duties far too long and the state should now step in and say well the machines you know they don't belong to anybody we're taking them back in possession of the state is this something that should be done shouldn't be done well I know you've got some opinions on this well my opinion is based on you know medina itself was anyone from you know everyone says that you know the the period of the solar sea

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Salafists this period of the swab or the line whom does the understanding of the mother when we talk about the son of we don't mean that i being of the tablet we mean the Sahara Dalaran yeah now look at who was in charge of the masajid at the time of the whole of Hershey Dean was a any scholar could open a mosque and sit on the member and give a hot bath for Juma no it was the Sahaba of the land whom they appointed people the halifa himself would go and give the

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football or the governor himself would give the hotbar they were in charge of that this is something that you know the jamaat's who called for following you know the way of the Salif need to return back to the way of the Salif where there are Muslim majority Muslim countries the government should take control either they impose a code but okay yeah and then although what difference would that

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make sure having speech you know you know bargain fun it's pure you know literally you know insane they're not saying this insanity those round would stop I have been you know my first visit to Morocco was in 1987 and I have not seen any one differentiate when they hear the Adhan

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you know the various mosque you go and pray it you know historically you know the who are known as the Salafis or Harvey's whatever name you want to call them they have their massages but no one cares when the time of prayer comes you go and pray but in majority you know in South Asia there's you know the braley mosques and dear Bondi mosques and the earlier these mosques the Shia mosques and then you know the different fringes from within

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those and then you know the insanity that you know they will call each other cafes don't know the famous venomous is there but then within their second period you know within the java groups they have subgroups of sisters yeah the way to control one of the ways to control it is you know the government should either employ them because once they employ them they have them my grandfather you know I'm Talal a he says

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if you want to bring influence on them you know one of them money I feel that's a tactic Chinese using as well for its employees they're controlled by the government this is something I've heard I mean what are your thoughts on in relation to that week Madhuri's our mother says today

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defunct are they useless do they have some use are they producing dysfunctional people and should they be allowed to operate I know the thing is that the matter is our system if you talk to someone who's in charge of them on any matera say in this country it they will tell you that you know they failed you know what they wanted to do they couldn't produce what they are producing is replicators of themselves

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films clones what I call you know replicators the classic example the case I'll I'll give you a case you know P of caramely shows Madras is from in Pakistan because I actually went to right now he introduced you know the university degree with his motherís so they there was a gap there he did something unique and he worked yeah now

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it got replicated in the UK yeah you know in Nottingham and the Madras all day I mean the same thing I think burry and all these data looms are also affiliates but it's they are what they're producing is not you know relevant for where Muslims of the UK are

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and where we are going because um the people who run those madrasas are in a time capsule when they came from you know whatever they came from yeah and while you know the generation that they're teaching is is of our time but what they are producing is you know someone from the seventies or eighties it's not that you know they're not finishing the book so they're not you know studying but they're not teaching

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them to think because people need to think the Dean is for the people who can think you know for a whole decade and for a whole decade you know when city Hamzah would send dr. Taha man to Birmingham he would be here for the philosopher the philosopher although the famous philosopher he would be here in Birmingham for a fortnight

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and hundred leg you know I'm because the Sheikh we couldn't go and visit this year and the Sheikh couldn't come to this country so he would send doctor to have the rough man now he shaped you know my because I fought for a decade I used to get a fortnight with him and his main thing was that you know you've got to use your intellect he had this um you know were Sufi understanding of even the acronym he said that you know there's an apple that your uncle

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has you know an opening another coconut is opening yeah cognitive opening and he called that you know akka Lara Bernie okay and it's you know when you'd limit yourself and what we're limited by is you know the group mentality that we are in it doesn't matter you know if it's a preacher or a madrasah oh you know you know whatever even a matter of course I mean what would you what would you

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advise because a lot of people sometimes ask about learning and they ask about you know they want to kind of take things further personally or even if it was a mother assault or a personal thing what would you advise differently then all advice proactively as in as in these are the musts what would you I would you know depends on and what somebody it wants to because you know every individuals path is totally different because you can't you know prescribe one you know medicine which cures all

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so Arabic is a must to master Arabic without arabic without understanding the language the you know the intricacies of the language itself you will you know not understand the deen itself this people who don't know this is the same advice she gave me I think when I was about 16 17 I approached you we actually I used to live on the same street same road as chefs a week well in my teens and I approached him once and this is the same advice he actually gave me then

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about you need to study Arabic and and it is a must as a ninja no it's a must without Arabic you can't even you know it's in if someone could pinpoint you know what is the Deen I would say that is the Deen that's the gateway the portal yeah because the thing is it's the key that is all going to open the dean to you after you octal you need to you know I will madrasahs say you know there are people out there that will

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open your mind but you know Institute our Institute's don't do that yeah you know if you Western Institute's do teach you how to think not that is true critical thought processes are really kind of focused on you know all this we've referred to the Apfel a few times a lot of people have sometimes for criticism they've kind of made bold statements that in Islam we do not relegate the other this kind of authority we do not resort to the other

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I'm often critiqued criticized for kind of saying that look we you know we need to the voice of reason the voice of reason now I mean what what what are your thoughts on all of this you know this Aqil versus knuckle debate that this war where is the superior reality or what is you know is this somehow by saying let's look at things rationally you become a martyr silly all of a sudden somebody from a particular sect the these kind of in tactics are adopted you know the whole thing of the motto Zillah people who have really not

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understood who the motor Zillah were because if you go and study you know their understanding you will see that you know they are you know people who use aqil but ours are heavy yet their literalists they will use the uncle but at the same time they are very literalists I think the balanced approach is you know of the usher you know that you know the uncle is there yeah

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but he has to be tempered by revelation and it's not revelation understood like for Dino Rossi he says that you see the Quran Kalama law is through language now he says language in and of itself is a subjective experience for individuals you know it's built upon Muhammad what he says for Nia in the sense that you might read something slightly understand it differently I'm a slight you understand it differently another person in his own right so he says that look it's not like people are miss framing this debate of

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Apple versus knuckle because knuckle is only understood through reason through upper like how do you understand Kalama like except through your intellect kind of and you know through your reasoning faculties it's like you know city Hamza Yusuf he came up with a good liner he said don't be a knucklehead now the thing is that language is subjective but how do we perceive how do we think do we think without language

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if you study any detailed book you know on a solo trip majority of it is language how we understand language how a the ramifications of the usage of language are and the Quran is exactly the same it is in Arabic and it is understood according to the usage of Arabic at the time of the Prophet not now yeah and it has to be it's like you

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know Imams the mercury of course yeah Imam the mercury the field is from language yes of course yeah now what did the Sunni is try to do they they try to remove is a design I mean this is pretty much babies how can you remove you know we're thinking from language yeah it's they're thinking is their thinking and might its I'll give you the you know

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the classic example the biggest non-english you know speakers of English the Australians the Americans Canadians Indians Chinese they all speak English and they understand language the language itself yes now you go to the Chinese sorry not for the Chinese let's go to Australia you walk into an Australian house and you say can you put the kettle on please yeah to them is

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gobbledygook can you put the kettle on in the UK you know anyone in England will know if someone says going to the Catalan they will come back with a cup of tea yes but in the neck the rest of the english-speaking world don't be the kettle on doesn't mean anything no I mean that this idiomatic usage of language in different kind of different different parts of the same language

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spoken world naturally of course of course yeah and this is the thing with the Quran the Quran uses language of the Quraysh yeah how they understood it that's how you've got to understand it you know language of the Quran and Quraish they say a topic that you know quite quite a lot of people sometimes do Rob this thing of diff excuse me different recitations of the Quran saying look and and I mean people I mean this whole thing that does it really make sense or not in and of itself is a

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is a thing but this and that's obviously come is tied into a language thing about you know this hadith about until for analyst about it I hope it was revealed upon seven letters but this hadith in and of itself is not even really authentic but even if it is like you take the meaning what is it referring to and I know probably evocative horribly has his stance on that what what ah do you have any thoughts on this I know in the past you've mentioned some things the thing is that you know you find that the Imams especially of the school of

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Medina and you know outside in bamboo berries were one of them you know is the mercury is another one but you know the DS and Kurata you know all these sabha roof car depot Booker is the one who put it very succinctly okay yeah he said look how I never asked you the Rasul never explained we don't know what the Saba are yeah yeah because it's really important that people understand the

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Sahaba never asked what those seven were so if there was no if there's a harbor never knew when the Prophet never answered where the hell are you getting them from he said something else let me add you know party of occurred he said look you know these periods you can't trace them beyond 120 Hijri yeah he said

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they stopped at 120 he'd riba 420 he jury you can't you know trace them any further and he has his own explanation and I actually like his stance he says look phaedra Othman Rhode Island had you know the Quran written according to you know unanimity of the Companions Rhode Island in one form the Quran is written copies were made and then they was sent

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to the fenders of you know you know the cities the new cities or the old cities now whichever tribe was you know resident in those cities they you know stretched they vowels you know when they recited they recited it according to their understanding yeah of course battery data that the script of the earth man was such that it had a kind of dynamism to indicated for certain stretches and certain things and so but

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the the kind of recitations that emerge later on that become as al-qaeda at sub R al Qaeda a Shia or some people said 20 25 30 these are not the these are all part of this one how we read this this script as I told you you know the Imams and they beta they said look we don't know where where these people are getting it you know ebrucaba is the last one I have you know

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front of which they demands then you know when I came across this more a very small reseller by blueburger you know Hanafy and he's actually put a question you know are these get out the water okay no no the question is put to him okay okay anything no they're not they're much rude okay that's fast because you know in the Mary r1 sure easy brings the the story of in Granada

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there was this huge argument that breaks out because some person in a Masjid is reciting something and somebody tries to correct him and anyway it turns into this issue and I was I didn't look at the fatigue want the teacher of shelter be he gives the fatwa that it is a must that these Keira art are motivator and one cannot read by anything that is non motor water in so long now this is then sent over and asked to ignore alpha and this whole kind of back and forth is brought in in the main yard and even

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Arafah he gives the fatwa saying look how the yard even Apple power our great much the Hadean of this matter have highlighted that look but this isn't as clear that there are rewired that are still established like as in they not I mean we understand and that they not kind of the way you're picturing them to be motor water but they are still they and he says it's not an issue of takfeer you can't call somebody at care field and it's not even an issue of kind of like Haram in that sense and he says that and he challenges this obviously even in Lube and it does

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go back and forth between between them so it's it's I mean just bringing that into to what you're saying I don't know if you've already come across the story of even an open even though out of his position which you're ready quilty even our fee is very clear here in the top series is that they're not yeah Imam robbery only accepts one okay interesting and then Imam Malik is on record saying that were she soon okay because that's the look of Quraysh yeah but the

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interesting thing is why he says it is because of his teacher Navi even abdur-rahman is the imam of the masjid the Newbery and from him you know you open any book on this garage they always begin with him and nasa but again it's something that it's in the books people find it very you know people are

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touchy about this subject so people some people become very emotional when you mention this because you know because the thing is that you know how the Quran is recited how you know the amount of money and time that is wasted you know by sending our children to the mosques every week and but again the emotions I

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think is because the at the end of the day I know it's a bad way of looking at them I should have a better opinion but it is what it is it's it boils down to the money because the Quran has become business you know with Ramadan coming you know how I know Shia banders you know what are we cruel but

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the thing is that you know what are you actually listening to it's music because you know the Quran have the Quran I've become musicians entertainers entertainers well you know when I remember I can't you know top of mind remember but the understanding of the people of medina why say the now Omar of the line you know were appointed an imam to lead the people into our we was to stop all this because this whole thing

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of you know karate was kicking in and he wanted to make sure that you know the original was kept but the carrots are that good well again there are Arab Mohammed the Arab Mohammed are copy taken from Persian so the Quran is actually recited on Persian musical scales scales rhythmic scales which are you know the Arabs were not known for

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music yeah they their culture is influenced I know they don't like it but it's actually that the influence is more Persian because the greatest you know empire that was surrounding there was the Persian Empire you know [ __ ] just tying in the going to point you mentioned just a little while back about look had created you know this dynamic text but there was an important just an offshoot from a question here to something very relevant today especially in this climate Iceman really Aloha and when he sends

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them off and he says look whatever other copies you have of the massage you know I should all have burned them yeah now this just holding that notion and coming back to today there was a discussion I know the government has now made some exemptions about if regarding the burial of Muslims there was to be some issues like there was with the Ebola crisis could Muslims move from burial to cremation following that and there was the photo of shaykh abdullah

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bin baya and chef show p brahim Alam and that lifts our mystery our permitting that what are your thoughts on that is it just because obviously burning somebody or burning something is often seen in our tradition as or in our culture as kind of like like a horrible dis like a disgracing event almost like you burnt it is this what's building up the sentiment or is that something from the offset unacceptable is here this a parallel of earth man saying we'll burn the Koran obviously didn't say it in a denigrating manner he said it in a you

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know in a preservation manner almost what what are your thoughts on that sure because there's a lot of kind of fighting on this cremation if Muslims had to cremate the bodies of the deceased from kovita I know now there is exempting kind of legislation that has come out because first it was they were looking to pass a bill saying - maybe cremate almost all day you know the the victims I think not I think I know that they only recently made an exempt except they exempted Jews and Muslims from that after some petitioning but at the time when this was in the air and what

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follows with this is the question of other things that are attached like also washing the dead doing these things which the health authorities are warning against really they're saying unless you have the full PPE victims who have died from Covey's and stuff like this you shouldn't really be washing them this has triggered a huge storm amongst people you know coming up saying no it's an obligation in Islam we must do this and that and even if we had to cremate we must defy the authorities because you know that's what Hindus do or that's desecrating the bodies or what are your thoughts on this

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show there's two points you know the cremation let's leave that aside because the thing is it would it it's a case-by-case they shouldn't be you know a carb Blanche opinion given from doula Allah saved us that we don't need to give an opinion sure yeah now coming back to and you know if you know the greats like I'm sure have the London Mayor has given that opinion then you've got that opinion anyway to fall back on

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but this is where I lack the wisdom sure you'll notice with you know shaykh abdullah bin bayer rarely will you find he gives an opinion from himself he's always quoting or referencing his opinions too you know already opinions are a bet this is the thing of you know you know the tremendous and knowledge that he has of you know muslim jurisprudence yeah and I did give the reference as well of saying like if people die at sea they do have that way they will just a burial at sea was

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really just kind of wrapping them and just tipping them into the sea really which would just be consumed by whatever kind of yeah there is an awful for you know not doing worsen yeah yeah because first of all you know with the Maliki the martyr and mark is someone who dies on the battlefield yeah they're not washed the North shrouded and there's no janazah then we dig a grave and we bury them that's absolutely yeah and the thing is

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but that's with not you know from the Jonah of martyrdom but you know be martyr and I suppose this could this be an extension of martyrdom plagues in this scenario with with the bathtub no because the thing is that it's it's that category I mean as in like as if it was a Muslim I'm saying well you know they're advising us not to wash anyway and well under this hadith I guess by extension a person who dies in a plague is is a martyr I mean if we stretch it I'm trying to stretch this we don't need

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there's no need to stretch it there is no need to stretch it because the thing is that you know if washing will harm the body because you know certain bodies of them of because a certain illness is the skin has become very soft or whatever in those cases you are exempt from washing them yeah so the thing is that you know if there's harm to the body from washing it you exempt from washing the body anyway also you can do theorem yeah now this is something that

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should show the Ibrahim along with Maliki and from you know thinking he had also said this that look why not duty among a.m. is only on the hands and faith that's see yeah when when p.m. um is done you know there was this video going round of someone doing spreading some dirt on you know a body that had there was a coffin already on it the white shroud and they were just rubbing you know

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[Music] soy la need a system yeah how did you know hey mom is only on maybe they were acting according to that hadith that's inter movie you know the person rolls around in there so there's the exemption there's the you know we got the option of you know just doing famine and then ask to because there was you know when this first raised Kovac raised its head

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but they wouldn't give the body force a lot of janessa the thing is like fossil a soldier NASA within the Muslim Salah janessa you know in absentee you know salat is base kuraha yeah sure and she having been powered you know when the Tunisian don't know he said that you know for this instance because there's a door or the kuraha can be lifted of course that is permissible in absentia too without the body pray to janazah

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pretty generic which is already the meth above the ship you see the opinion is already within the school we don't need to go to the sheriff here that so you can do to Yemen which is just the face and hands you can bury the body and you can have a salata janazah in absentee without Ferrara so the cremation again best too much you know when you look at how the son of understood because you

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know the Sahara the land home especially you know the [ __ ] from Medina they would discourage even you know someone going with a torch or anything you know fire-related fire-related going with the body to the burial because you know there but this be shift because of the powerful in theory read the contrast with the Rast Rian's who kind of ionized and symbolized fire as a symbolic of God and because they saw it as such a

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powerful resemblance that they had a stronger disliking to fire could that could that be maybe a factor we actually have their understanding why they discouraged it I am jumping the gun they their understanding was you know the connotations of the fire with what you know an omen bad omen yeah so it's a bad omen and you can understand it as well because you know even you know in South Asia the people that burned them are the

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non-muslims yeah and and within you know society in Medina their understanding was of you know the bad omen but again you know when you do not know what tomorrow will begin so but as you know the Maliki scholarship says that you know when we'll deal with it when it

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comes it's attributed to Imam Malik is any I don't know whether it's actually true but there's a famous story of with somebody who you know came from Azerbaijan that's it and and you know because in fit there's a lot of these questions especially in Hannah Fifi up that look if a cow falls in the world if how many buckets should we remove what if it's a girl what if it's a chicken what if it's and this different amount of buckets for each animal and they've got to do all of this and then they've

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got a whole kind of art and there's so much around this and expansion on it and so somebody came and decided to ask him I'm Alec how many buckets shall we let's begin with the cow how many buckets should we remove if it falls in he said well has it fallen in yet the person said no he said come back once it falls in we fed up come all the way from Azerbaijan what did Mallik site to that you know following on from understanding that you're saying sure and earlier on you'd

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also touched up on language and how it offers different understandings to different people things like I was actually taking a look at you know in this book I was just mentioned to you earlier of the responses of Ghazali to the Maliki legend hypnotherapy now there was something in the way he's asked about and this ties in with today where he's asked about cures medical cures that Hauer mentioned in in whether the Sunnah or within the Islamic tradition like honey or the black seed or things

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like this or dates now he mentions that look these things what when they when they are mentioned because today this has become a big topic as well some people saying look black seed is the is the cure to coronavirus some people are saying that you know oh you know maybe it's it's this it's that the Islamic thing his response was one of saying like what you're saying earlier on that look the things these are language things that when they are mentioned it is my Bible I'm readable cos that it is generic but

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it's meant for some people meaning that this isn't like some people they may find some health benefits any others may not it's not something that is a universal kind of that covers everyone but I mean what are your thoughts on this because a lot of people have been going on about things like you know black seed habit or soda some people have been going on about the day some people did somebody I don't know if you've seen this in Birmingham so there was a video going around about sumac I I don't even know what sumac was but it was some kind of Arab spice or something spices and some lady saw that in a dream the Prophet told her look get hold of

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some sumac this is the cure so somebody had made a video going around saying look Hum Dil I've got hold of two bags right here you can get it from Coventry Road and and this was going around and they were saying look you shouldn't take these things lightly this is the profit in a dream some people going to the extent that look there's no such thing as a dois there's no such thing as contagion anyway you know why are people all getting so worked up hahaha you know nothing can and yet there are narrations with the the Prophet is saying about look let there be somebody presented in relation about let there be a spear span

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between you and the leper you know when the Prophet said when you sit to eat kind of social distancing found in I think that in I think it was in the Muslims rapid winter brawny but nevertheless what are your thoughts on all of this share one the the kind of medical items that are mentioned do they carry a shiver is it ash a fire for coronavirus if yes and is is there such thing as a contagion anyway you know when I spent the whole day today going through you know the Muslims of say the

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Isis along entirely her and she's very important in understanding you know at this point that you've asked about you know the genre that was it's a made-up genre but again lot of the sciences have you know there was a need for them I don't know if there was a need for you know to burn ugly and it's this on a side note I feel sometimes this was something really pushed to the forefront by people like it'd not pay him in his time and then

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ever since became a huge but that may just be but on a side note but yeah you know she's actually asked by you know her nephew you know uh Ottawa he he says that you know I'm not astonished about you know you fit because you know I answer you know you're the wife of the Prophet you're the daughter of Abu Bakr

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you know by poetry and genealogy I'm not astonished by your knowledge because you know you the daughter of them Abu Bakr because Abu Bakr of the land was famous or you know the genealogy of the Arabs he says the thing that astonishes me is your knowledge of medicine okay it's really important that you know people understand how he's you know phrasing this he's saying I'm not astonished about you knowledge of it because that's coming from your the wife

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of the Prophet you're the daughter of Abu Bakr are not astonished about your knowledge of poetry and you know the day history of the Arabs you know one of the jarir I am Al Arab why because you know you're the daughter of Abu Bakr Abu Bakr was famous he was he was right he says what I'm astonished about is big he says I'm astonished about your knowledge in Tim shall see she says you know when in the last days of the prophets all along and

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he was seldom you know the delegations frog came from every erection the cross armor yeah they came and the prophets all along Alison was ill and you know they would describe you know the formulas you know different tribes oh right okay they would give the wrong kind of keep their own diversion they fight over a trial-and-error version of what jokes yeah and I would treat the Prophet with them and that's how I remembered them okay that's really fascinating because

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you had a typist all the way I mean you had a lot of the you know that the local tribes right down to people like Niger on the Christians coming as well yeah yeah now the interesting thing is that you know this is referenced by um you know even though Josie you know go for it no Josie in you know photo software now it's also half ism you know even Abdul

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Bari has you know not the fool he says a a game is he some even or were you know saying from his father that he would say I've not seen anyone more knowledgeable in fictive and poetry from Asia know if

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PR is the album you go to you know a Farber yeah yeah Tamizh it's probably the Hydra you'll find a similar wording okay so from this you know well that is so that shed so much light so almost rocket and the interesting thing is you know when Harvey's of the like attorney yes who

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died who died in you know 1962 yes in 30 we'll adhara you know his whole work on the governance of the profit and how things operate it this is the first reference he begins with okay in reference to yeah well this is the first reference he gives and so you automatically look over is a 50 hisham

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is a 50 yeah they're not people that are illiterate they're thinking people of course yes and he's making it clear I'm I'm not astonished in your knowledge of thick cuz I know where you're getting it from I'm not astonished about you know your poetry in genealogy I know where you're getting from I'm astonished with YouTube now if there was such a John Drewe that was known by the seller as big but nobly he would have said I'm not

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astonished is an amazing point said I'm not astonished like he said I'm astonished yeah now that aside so this you know to me burst the bubble of the been doubly yeah right now we come to the prophet sallallaahu only with solemn because you know with the bin of weed the whole concept is that the physician is the Prophet he's the one that's giving the

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remedies now you know Saud bin Abu Bakar throughout the line you know from the ashram assurance now he falls ill we know when he he falls ill because you know Imam Darby says he fell ill you know in the hydrometer okay so the profits all along are you from there back in Medina he comes to visit southbend Aviva cause he feels you know between his chest and says your heart is cold

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you're suffering from you know a heart sickness okay now the next thing is really interesting he says go to her and hurt Ben colada the brother of Turkey is pakka fee okay he is a man who gives medical treatment now here we've got evidence of the prophet sallallaahu aluminum advising the prompt a companion

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to go to a physician yeah thank you other than him he's not saying come to me I all let me prescribe something he's saying go to hurry evening colada now by the way this is an Abu Daoud okay yeah how it been colada was someone who was known as you know the physician of the Arabs because I'm he's someone who when tandems studied in Syria sorry

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not seeing a Persian he came back and became well-known as a physician you know in the public art of the Sahaba you find a reference for him how his even out Dilbert questions him his Islam okay he questions his Islam okay but the thing is that him being a physician is separate no he no one questions that quality that quality his you know unhurried even al

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Harry you know his son is is companion who is accepted by all okay but the important thing is here that there be physician of the time yeah of the Arabs is known to the prophet and the prophet sallallaahu Allison is sending third Rena B work off to him and also one could take into consideration as well that even in the last days of the prophet sallahu salams life when he

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was ill there was no particular kind of remedial kind of you know outline or guidance from the Prophet that make this make this you know this is the medicine this is the and fader I sure has already clarified you know the stuff that she was using where that was coming from that is amazing yes so it puts things into perspective yeah well there's another time where the prophet sallallaahu I listen them send

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them waving guard okay he sends him to a doctor okay he sends him to a physician who you know cuts one of his veins and then cauterizes it all right the key kind of formula that they used to use yeah you know now again that's from abu dawood as well okay now the interesting thing is that we've got you know say the iShare saying where she got her referee knowledge from we've got the prophets

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all along allison sending two companions you know to a physician to a physician not him saying do they so do that then you've got you know when again the prophet sallallaahu aluminum saying that you know when anyone who practices medicine if he does not know then he is responsible you know they're saying in Farsi meme hacking proper idea

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saying that you know someone who treats someone and he's not you know qualified yeah he's saying he's responsible for who are darman again that's from Abu Dawood as well yeah and that is what the Fatah has always been on as well generally I mean that if a if a person claims to to kind of medicate someone and he's not actually trained doesn't know and and causes harm consequently that they are then liable financially and can be also actually I mean subject

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to punishments as well but but the thing is that here you've got you know the profits all along Ali whistle I'm treating I mean advising go to one companion go to a doctor the other he sends the companion to a doctor to narrations from a Buddha out saying that you know the doctors should be qualified yeah not not quacks they should be qualified if they are quacks then they are responsible if something goes wrong now coming to you know what you said

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about the Black Sea not bad you know the contagious thing okay is the contagion to just does this exist yes what we have is we have actually a reference of you know we have the statements of the Prophet you know when a plague comes and so on and so forth don't go near yeah Hafiz of all named Elise for honey he has actually a book called

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a tibanna be okay of anomalies for honey I'm delighted tiny had well he was in possession of it okay nine it's not in print it's in manuscript he quotes from it he says that the Prophet you know if any of the wives of the prophet saw along a lucidum had you know when an eye insect oh no I infection okay he would not go near them till they had

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fully recovered okay okay that's interesting now I asked I asked my son who's a optim he says that Kahn conjured conjunctivitis he says it's highly contagious okay okay highly contagious so what the prophets all along Elsa Lee himself was practicing if any of his wives had their eyes infected he wouldn't go near them yeah you know the different the black

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seed one yeah now the black seed if you connect all the narrations yeah all of them yeah they can't agree which is the black seed it doesn't even say what the black seed is I mean some people don't but the Prophet isn't saying fade Aisha transmits one in her Muslim okay in in Muhammad but it's fennel seed it's which

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now you know when we don't know what exactly the hub bisoder is what is what is referred to we do not have any continuous practice that you know generation after generation it's being transmitted it is this seed is it pepper for example I mean you know there was that question I found intriguing about this hadith which I felt that doubted the authenticity and I was looking I mean I was looking at these angles and I was looking at the chain but I was also looking at the fact

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that like the narrations in Buhari the Prophet is the words that are being referred to now somebody could say this is later on retrospectively kind of you know projected back on to the Prophet but he's using the Jewish word in saying that you know he could say farming Khalida unless Sam except Sam which wasn't even though the Arabs understood that but it was actually from the language of the local Jews I just found that very strange that the Prophet would be addressing something so important and bringing in Jewish slang I mean you to

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understand of sorry I mean you need to understand how societies function you know when you have different communities there's a crossover of language of course so it should be taken from that way okay but the way how you know harvey's of the of the reich attorney Ron Talal a you know presents this whole thing his understanding is that you know these different you know hot and cold

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foods you know they are humors to them which is based on Galen isn't the whole thing but the thing is he's putting it down to you know what the tribal yeah practices and practices were you put it down that's what a lot of these ke and cauterizing and all these wasn't something God was revealing it's just what the Arabs were trial and error they were just kind of working with yes and

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that's what's understood and then you know when you're familiar with him you know the thing about you know the dates what email Missouri and them yeah they say it's medicinally not proven yeah and they actually said that and this is is that not amazing shift that you see people say that these kind of words today I like the way your mug said the boss by the way right so it's interesting that today if a person was to say look here's so for example this

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the fly dip the fly in and if a person said well you know it's not medicinally proven today people will be like us thoughtful ah blasphemy you know how can this person insult the Prophet and they're you've got the the major pillars of the scholarship of this Deen in my Maserati are the yard later on and OB other people stating that look this isn't medicinally proven this the seven dates of agua and why seven and and this doesn't you know maybe was specific about something the Prophet was speaking about but this isn't today in our day and age called the yard and my city says proven

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so you know we don't now don't you feel that this the contrast that today if you were to question without precedent something the the kind of backlash and yet so this was the nature of our tradition was it was it was it not sure well if you go back to you know what I began with you know when he shall been Ottawa sorry Ottawa saying to say that I'm not surprised with your fake I knew you know poetry and history of the Arabs but I'm surprised about your knowledge of dip

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yeah if someone put a question like that now people would find it objectionable yeah because you're questioning the knowledge of you know the mother of the believers you automatically would be expected to believe that all her knowledge is coming from the Prophet of course I mean this is it's amazing subhanAllah yeah you're expecting that and then you know you look at the Prophet he's not saying him oh do do

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this thicker this many times do this the world rules you saying go to a doctor and the doctors were known at that time you know when there's an opinion from Imam Malik that you know when Abdul Hakim you know in his book the surgeon yes yes he he says that you know Imam Malik was astir by the injection and he says love us so they even knew about injections medicine wasn't you know what

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you know our medicine has become yeah of course of course I mean they had the wrong kind of version obviously today's it so and and you know on this you'd mentioned this well I love how you had highlighted I mean before share about that how no narrative today truly fits perhaps what is the objective reality of the Deen like and I know we were discussing once the and you you kind of pointed out to me the hadith inside Buhari of said not a model deal on I'm saying that look the

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matter after the Prophet was can it felt attempt at Ummat here you know and he says that people said it was a rush job when you highlighted this and he says but you know Allah saved us and how no it's it's amazing how no group truly embodies oh they're not maybe then it's not ready to like we have so many sensitivities today about everything that kind of ties in with what what you're saying about even questioning you know this Ottowa questioning I sure like this today would be deemed as like whoa I mean he could question about today somebody questioning the thought of that would be I'll tell you you know

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something yes I'll come back to that you know this questioning things yeah you know one cardi of the Wahab daddy Rantala you know in his shadow of the Rosella yeah you know the section on martyrdom yeah he raises a point which you know to me you know the point that you just raised has clarified so much and I'll explain to you because you know the Maliki's and as I said before the

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Shaheed is not you know given a whistle he's not given a toughen and there's no solution a Sufi him yeah while you know the others don't they do because the transmission of a narration from you know of the loving Abbas that you know the Shahada of ohad yeah were washed and shrouded and preyed upon now kadhi Abdul Wahab Puff Daddy he says

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information will only be accepted from many witness not from someone who is not a witness do you understand that you know you need someone who was witness to the Shahada that they were washed they were you know shrouded and Salah so janazah was done and he said Abdullah being a bus at that time was 2 years old I mean it's amazing this you know the

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way looking at things and how was he a witness [Laughter] how was he was two years old and he says he was eight years old when the Prophet passed away so hon Allah I will some people have been posting quite a few questions we'll take some these questions if you do have some questions for share that are not

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incredibly time-consuming let's let's inshallah take a look at some of them so people have been somebody had asked about if they wish to change math hubs is that something that is permissible within is that people can do can they not do share your thoughts you must have provided reason it's not you know oh it's fashionable now they become Malick you so you become a man yeah I'm gonna say watch my version where I say

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just become my Lackey obviously the shift that's how you should that's how I ought to answer the reason and you can study it from from what I'm and you do teach classes don't you share happy limestone - yeah so I mean even though there is a lockdown but you can reach out to a chef he's on Facebook Facebook mainly isn't it sure yeah mainly as see the mohammed iqbal right and i have tagged him into my facebook profile so you can find the page from there there's

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a question what was the Imam Malik's motivation to complete to compile sorry hadith in the motto if the Amal of Medina took precedence over hadith so was Imam Malik just doing something futile since hadith and you know isn't all that anyway so na is number one why is Imam Ali compiling hadith you know there's something I've been working on for quite some years they're still sitting there you know the reason why the motto was compiled okay Imam Malik

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you know the general adage that is given is that you know there were a lot of even imagined wrote his work and him and Malik was shown it and he said if I am author of book I will evidence those works that's the well-known but you know my own thinking on this yeah is that you know if you go back to you know on whatever Abdul Aziz when he orders the scholars to write down you know with

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what they have of knowledge yeah but even if howser me asks write down what is sunnah but okay it's important because you see the wording is really important English Herbers ovary is asked to compile Hadees yeah but even the Howsam is asked to compile the should enough yeah and the thing is that even it hasn't completes the task but what even Abdul Aziz is died are we saying it hasn't does complete that ties yes okay

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the husband by the way the Magellan scholar okay he does complete it and guess who's student a mathematic is it hasn't even has a yeah now the thing is that my arm I think the real reason is that you know he based his understanding on what was already there but there was already you know a work on the phone okay if you go

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through the motto the word that Imam Malik uses again and again and again it's um nothing much to my leader yeah Somalia that the the way that is agreed agreed upon by the people yeah yeah I last month you know I was the last month or the works that I bought was you know even a bush Kazem rakitin moguri but okay it's a true body roll yes I think I'm pretty sure I've got it actually

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right in there even icky Nana and it's the beauty of the you know with even a bush go well is because he's a harvey's of hadees he brings yeah which Senate and even icky Nana asks in my moniker of the lon you know the O soul that you bring forward in your book it's important that you know the word or soul is used as you know party will occur in Elaraby he says that the O soul of Imam Malik is in the water yeah yeah now if Nicki Nana

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puts a direct question to Imam Malik where did you get this O soul from so you know it was already known that the tool of imam malik is in the water so Imam Ali crowd lon says I got my ax soul from Rabia Medina yeah but ro beer to Ronnie got it from fading anonymous I get so you know this why the motto was written first

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you know the Oh soul second the Sun and the sunnat' of you know magicians narration you know the Senate is monocot oh no no no you know Oh Abdul Aziz Al magician the book theory that it was out

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of kind of rivalry that's the raishin there's a hundred-year gap yeah I mean that didn't really do it for me either and some people I'd say even a zip had one as well things that so many people altered what part but the thing is that you know what's bare in front of us you know the English I did you can't see the trees because of the wood you know this is right in front of us the sermons are clear as the certain career abdul-aziz ISM and the other thing is that you know

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it's interesting that you know how the mother went westward yeah the water reached you know Spain 30 years before imam malik passed away yeah it was in his lifetime it is lifetime and it's interesting that you know when Omar even Abdul Aziz sent you know the scholars to teach those people the Sunda from Medina and even every house it Abu Bakr even every hasn't you know finished the work

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that he was off that's my own that's a very slightly differently nuanced perspective but I love it sure and also for people just so you know that the mapa isn't just a collection of hadith in fact this is why many sometimes very uber hadith II people don't like it too much because that although they have to kind of accept it but it's because Imam Malik in it does reject hadith like he will bring a hadith with the golden chain and he will say well ASA a lil

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Amal that we do not practice go into this hadith because the people of Medina didn't really act according to it and that really sometimes you know it doesn't settle well with certain dogmas also you know another point is that you know the narration that you have that you know when the king Monsoor all orders imam malik over here again those hadith actually evidence the existence of the book before the command

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yeah so because that's the popular opinion with the hardly seen themselves and also you know the people that bash the Maliki's with that you know if the book was a state work imam malik was hand in hand with you know the state takes politics while you know those narrations when collated and i've created all of them and then when you look at them they contradict each other absolutely and they prove that the book actually existed before you know the

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king is commanding him because the king says I've read your book I want it holds it upon we posing so how could you know he imposed the book and command the Imam to write it I think you know even hasn't and is you know the the Genesis no I I really like that [ __ ] I mean to be honest I've never really thought of it like that and I wasn't familiar with that so sugar and for that but moving to another question somebody had asked I

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mean if you want briefly but after you share somebody had asked what is the distinction between ashari and matter idea nothing nothing is it symmetric it's kind of semantics yes really it's nothing so nuances they are by and large considered the same claim some somebody had asked a question all right there's a fright okay there's a question on the beard now I'm just trying to bring you back up

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some of the conversations have moved okay we'll come to that in a moment on the beard thing I'll just bring you back up but this question somebody has asked for a few on a few occasions now mark and asked could you explain Neffs Alabama what do you understand by this I feel you may have a take on that show a very spiritual person again not Salama

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is he from the UK I don't know much again if he contacts me it's something that you know you can't give you know a one-liner for because the nufs Allah describes it you know with about seven stages of the nerves and Lora Mae is one stage of the of the nerves you know when the South plane and I think there must be a theory in psychology yeah I mean because I was gonna say I kind of see

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the nufs to mean like the self and the self in and off itself is such a confusing thing within psychology they're not exactly sure I mean a popular theories like the kind of bundle theory where they say the self is a like an amalgamation of like your perception your memories your thought process is all kind of in a feedback loop going on tell it like you're bringing a sense of identity which is your past experiences to the now and kind of constantly within you know like micro-seconds Anna like

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having that computed so every time I'm doing something like if I'm drinking coffee there's a sense of like obviously as I'm tasting it it's consolidating a previous memory of I like coffee and and tying it at a very I mean this is a very shallow example but in similar ways this this there's like a it's a complex algorithm that is in motion this is probably one of the popular theories of the self otherwise that we're not really sure what is the self obviously this consciousness tied into that is I would have felt maybe these things like Neffs Alabama or

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particular ego states that the self or the ego finds itself in like a sense of remorse a sense of but I mean I know that sometimes there are much deeper understandings given from what I saw of perspective and stuff like this you know the Spanish philosopher been a badger he actually has a whole book on his concrete up enough Imam Ghazali has a work on it there's so many you know people who have written on it but you

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know modern psychology because there's research attached to it while you know Muslim matter physicists Dez was you know just there wasn't that much research and there are more theories about the nerves in modern psychology then there were you know with most yeah again my take on what the nerves is a

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you know it's a different aspect yeah would you put in with that oh sorry were you about to yeah is it different out right because you see people ask is the soul yeah the same as the depth I was kind of just about to ask this but okay carry on carry on yeah yeah so you know you've got there are theories that you know is the aqua okay yeah you know the nuts it fell is the which is that and I know curavi mentions that in his I think it

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this is teyla yeah yeah now the thing is that imam ghazali is someone who leans towards but I was gonna say this actually that you know this is what I was just about to bring up that in this text I was just reading yesterday that has earlie kind of answering table are we saying that look the raw is a gaseous kind of element it's a baja these kind of poha rods which come from the Shia in the arteries of the heart and they rise and if they reach the brain it kind of cools things down and does I mean this kind of stuff the thing is that it if

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you want Kody evocative Larabee's take on it he actually protects imam ghazali in our sigma no Kawashima he critiques them but again as a loss panel what Allah says in the Quran humans have been given little knowledge of what yeah I mean that's it's never-ending you know if you want to know the position of you know the students of

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Imam Alec if you go to you know when the water was the earth earth yes in the kitab you janaza you'll actually find their opinions and you know also which is very modern thinking you know do the animals have souls or not even that hater they had opinions on that as well

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somebody had asked about the beard in islam what is there a kind of fistful prescription is there a prescription a kind of prohibition on shaving or trimming the beard your thoughts on that obviously they I'm sure I'm sure they were aware of my they're just looking at me and this my take on it but what is what is your take on that share I I don't have a thing I I can only share with you you know when the opinions that are there

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within the method in my America of the land was asked and he says he should and she should not be known for your beard so how you should you should be known for who you are rather than oh you know that one who has a five o'clock shadow or you know the one that you know has one coming down to his knees your identity shouldn't be about the beard and you know the thing of long beards

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you know I barked you know a dictionary of the Sahara or the LAN home where you know there was so empty in Sahaba who were known for having short beard no you know not didn't they consider almost to be a sign of a lack of intelligence to have a very long beard they did they had very short beard because something of him now burst that it's from it shows from the you know that the Fotolia is from like it's a sign of of a pile and

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stuff like and you find that you know the younger Sahaba from the banu hashim specifically you know they did used to cut their beard party had considered it to be sundar yeah there is a work by city Abdulaziz bin Sadiq Elohim our Iran Talal a which is a very interesting work where he critiqued you know the Indian scholars who offered you know a work on the beard

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back he was a vegetarian he's a Jew according to the form of herbs he says it he critiqued it and his trick is it's really interesting I'll share it with you and he he does not consider it to be worship and within the method you've got the opinion of card a yet who considers it to be sunder and you know sooner for Isis you know we

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know what the definition of Sunnah is with the Oh solely in masters yeah and everyone knows it it's not something new with it with the sheriff he is the same yeah now say the side Allawi Malachy Maki run to Lyla he says the beard is you know hair on your chin yeah you know what protein and that's what it's and if you read them you know fertile body of him even as real as Kalani he says have a

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beard but don't have a Mugabe be it there are photos you know from 200 years ago of you know the olam of Kara wean and they had should be it so the best I've come across and you know my own take on this is have a beard yeah but don't be known for your beard yes but religion is religion is not in a

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beard yeah yeah you know this thing that you know because you're a practicing Muslim you must have a beard it's you know where one Sufi shave and is interesting quite a few of the Sufi shakes I've met you know that children didn't have beards they had beards and their sons didn't have these and someone objected to the ship CDM your son doesn't have a beard and he turned right he can guide

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you to God without a beard again if not to take you know things lightly it's something the Dean and you know Muslim scholarship has you know written and scholarship depends on whichever side you take it no one encourages shaving every one encourages having a beard but you know a sensible beard because if you

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look at the command the command is not for were doomed you know to think that we were talking about earlier you know language you gather all the narrations generations are not forwa Jew so again have it be it but you know don't don't be known for it ya know shukran for that [ __ ] I was just seeing that there was a I was just looking at some of these questions but they seem to be kind of repeat questions I I want to

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do just just to finalize share I I'm asked often a lot of people kind of say look you know in this day and age there is a I mean they don't just say this we observe it as well that there is a disconnect between religion a lot of people there's a greater growing polarization we spoke earlier on about how the orlimar or the mother of Christ is also a crisis and not really bridging that gap and we spoke about aerobics are essential for people if they wish to learn also that there is a sea of

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information out there through things like the internet which sometimes it's amazing and sometimes can be more confusing people are in doubt often about religion I mean what and you were in touch obviously with with the younger generation your own children are part of that generation what what would you say share some some words for to these people that are sometimes maybe troubled maybe they have thoughts maybe they're not sure one of the fate or if they are of the faith what should they do with it

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what should they I mean if there were some words what what would you like to what would you say to this younger generation one I'd like to share you know what my share had vines he said look practice the Dean according to your ability yeah and according to the judgments of the time and age we live in yeah that's what his advice was Annie

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mentioned you know the hadith from the rasoolallah sillerton Rd no sir but the deed is easy and you know people should go and read the full text of this hadith in sahih bukhari but you know when you go to extremes yeah you go to extremes people would leave the Deen yeah so don't go because they eat Dean is ease yeah and it's important that you know people make things give ease rather than

2:00:33

you know put people in hardship your own personal practice is your own personal practice yeah but you know when you're advising people you should advise people to take things easy the one thing that I would encourage everyone must mean practicing or not practicing is that they should have conviction aim for conviction in God because you know just because you are born in a Muslim family and you are part of them slim household does not automatically

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make you Muslim you have to begin the journey where you have ended with conviction in God then there's faith first first of all do you accept that is a creator or not that's the first don't forget about God do you accept that there is a creator or not there is some meaning to this patient yes so that is the beginning of the journey is the question that you have to

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answer and you know when you start answering that question conviction comes when conviction comes then you know you should be treated as someone new to the Dean not that you owe because I you know in my twenties or 40s or whatever and I'm taking the Dean seriously now I should be doing this no you should be treated as a new Muslim because that's what you are yeah because you know our

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people of you know Callum that they say that's the beginning point because you know young people coming to the Dean should not be thrown into the fire you know into the deep end they should be inc it's like you know when imam abu hurry and others you know the Baghdadi yeah when they talk about this they say that you know if someone comes to the Dean they don't know Arabic you know the you know they can pray in their own language they can say the opening to

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read in their own language that's not the mature of the mother sure yeah but you give them ease yes sir yes sir yeah and the best is that people should be given is you know you were new on the Dean your first job is not to pray not too fast not to go on Hajj not to give zakat it is to have conviction in God because you know if your foundations are sound the building will be sound but if you build your building on sand it will you know a

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gust of wind or so flood will just throw your building everywhere begin begin with this conviction that you know is there a creator or not set on building that relationship building that relationship and that is what we should do ourselves do with our children grandchildren whatever and because you know what point is there praying you know my sheikh city Hamza loved the land he says how many of us faster we've got

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hunger in our stomach and how many of us you know pray we're just getting the physical exercise because you know if you don't have that conviction they're just motions that you're going through you know this connection building along the way once you've taken that first step this is what I was going to say it could be different things for different people is different yet so it's not just praying and doing no thicker you could be contemplation it could be a person making door that kind of does it may be giving charity becoming a better that's the beginning it's like you know when

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the advice that I was personally given you know if someone become comes new to the Dean you know the best thing that you can do for them is keep them away from Muslims you don't let them do because everyone is on a learning curve there isn't you know in if you think that you're not on in their learning curve you might as well be dead yeah yeah everyone is on a learning curve and everyone should appreciate that you know all of us are on a

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learning curve some are you know at the beginning some words somewhere else but all of us I can't tell you you know how many things that I used to hold as you know solid as anything and you know to me they're fluid and they've changed over the time although they've changed yeah because it's fluid it's like you know dr. Iqbal Ram Delilah you know when he wrote what she called them you know were poem in praise of you know the

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Cubbies from Karndean then you know he wrote against it and and someone criticized him saying look you were praising him yesterday and today you're writing against him and he said look only a stone doesn't change only a stone doesn't change and you have found personally over the decades share your own thoughts concepts have kind of developed and changed I can't tell you

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how much it's like you know this thing of what I shared with you by the tip yeah yeah now then you know the whole understanding of you know one that we have of the Companions of the Prophet all along I lose a limb you know even about the prophet sallallaahu annuus Allah let alone God because the thing is that you know if you're not if you're not increasing you're decreasing yeah it's like you know one faith now abdullah saving armor

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of the line you know when he heard that ayah you know Akimoto come you know when he wept he wept and they said look we should celebrate why are you weeping he said after perfection there's only imperfection and thing is that no one is complete if you're complete you know you're not complete so everyone should you know

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when you know always always accept the humanity of each other because once we accept the humanity of each other we actually become humans it's like you know we're about to lost prana with Allah you know when look how what's the population of the globe man eight point five billion I think that how many are Muslim I was assumed probably 1/4 or 1/5 between that or something right so the majority are non-muslims of

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course of those yeah I'm not looked after them they are a lot that should you know just be enough for any sane person to understand and you know the difference between man and Kaufer is literally aligned it's just because we are in Amman today doesn't mean there's no guarantee we won't be in Co for tomorrow yeah it's always you know once you have that conviction yeah once you have that conviction I can't wallow he allows my witness and I this is not you know something because

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I'm speaking to you or people are listening it's I can't fathom that God would ever want anything but the best of course it's the brain just doesn't compute yeah it just doesn't go there that you know God would ever want Amish mental torture yeah and the thing is that you know what is gods if God's affair that is so true somebody had asked as well because they'd said I think referring to my

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approach and in your this with me as well was something more so recently as well maybe in the last few years this thing of like you're saying that I mean then the critique I suppose was maybe I don't use fear that's what somebody had said you know whereas they say that they can see messages of fear in Islam so why don't I kind of well why don't people a people should be quoting about God's gonna do this he's gonna punish you is gonna do this it's gonna like frighten people into and that just ties in so beautifully with what you're saying that look because really how many times even

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though these images this imagery is in the Koran but how many times does Allah begin with ar-rahman ar-raheem you know we begin every time recitation that hold the mercy of Allah you know it is so amplified right throughout the Quran which you know the hadith Qudsi under the Nabi be yeah that's enough that I treat my servant as he yeah and you know when he's saying that haha you

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know doesn't matter what anybody else is and the mercy of you know the prophets all along I live Salah was you know mercy personified and then if we are supposed to be from his Ummah and may Allah make us a dying on that then you know at least have some mercy to you know what is gosh Allah shukran chef

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there was really I'm sure people have immensely benefited and will continue to do so from this Siddiq well you can be a few people have asked as well that you can be reached on Facebook that is incorrect isn't it here if you do wish to reach out to the chef and I do recommend anybody who is serious about learning or development in shall I don't my how much time the ship has but do if you can and it's feasible connect with share see the ball and do take up if you can some of those classes but you must be consistent I will tell you that and once again chef Bartok a lot fecal-oral I know you're not a

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vampire thank you like us and you've really taken your time and your health sometimes is a bit of a challenge and everybody I I ask you all to make doha may Allah grant you the best of health

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