Reply to Sunni (Wahhabi) Defence Pt. III -Mufti Abu Layth

right so there's been another video as they were always off against me you know it's always funny games so the the video let me just deal with this for a moment and I'll come back to some of the questions video was by our lovely our lovely Muhammad events you know the lobby certainly defense they've done another video qui robbed on Hema stock robbed a year after yeah haha right this

so this being a video by Sony I say Sony loosely hobbies so me defense we're top he's saying that oh I haven't answered this question he's highlighted in this video saying look in my video about the video declaring marital rape Haram in that video he says I quoted something amongst the many quotes I'm going to come to this he says that these quotes were from some forum and they were misrepresented so they're not actually

accurate okay so right well my brother let's let's take a look at what is going on this way this sport karate karate so just to summarize there's a video you can check my video it's on YouTube it's it's to do it's called that rape marital rape is Haram in Islam overly I mean if you type that in marital rape Haram you should come up but under they I explained I mean in the video I explain

how rape is categorically Haram including using religion to justify the rape so if a person is emotionally blackmailing or religiously blackmailing a woman to rape her that is still rape so I've explained that that is categorically Haram her husband just as like let's say a husband is going to beat up his wife I'm like beat her up if she says no to sex that is clearly rape now if he is going to say oh I'm not gonna beat you up but allies gonna punish you after you die

you see that is no less rape that's just like saying in other words a deferred beating so that's just threatening her still because it's still a threat but it's a threat with a deferred punishment so it's still Haram categorically now right so first of all this there is a hadith and I've done a whole so what I would advise these people when they get a moment please go check out my video because it's over half an hour I do a complete breakdown of how that is

coercion and that is Haram and know that hadith is not true and to say that the Lord is angry because you and in getting sex is ridiculous you seriously overestimate talk about self aggrandizement like that you know I don't know is that a metaphor for like the Lord down there because is that what you you mean that the Lord is angry Lord is angry is this like some kind of like a a nickname that

you've got going on because there's no way on earth that God is gonna be angry about you not having sex okay I'm just making real with you right so you seriously got an ego issue going on because that is not true by any measure no matter how much you think about yourself so right now there's this hadith which is weak I believe it's unacceptable utterly clashes with the Quranic clashes with the authentic sana clashes with the principles of Islam and the hadith is in a bottle modulator Faraj is OG ha that if a woman stays away abandoned

like she stays away from the bed I'm not telling melodica the Angels will curse her in another hadith that the Lord is angry with her hotter to spare either until morning until she comes back the Lord Lord which wrote no no Lord Lord is angry right so this is you know some road can be used for many things like he can be useful like a woman at home can be called a rap battle

date the Lord Lord s of the house and so he could be using this as a metaphor right so now I went through this hadith and I showed and I won't go through the whole a breakdown again but I demonstrated how this hadith is not reliable I've read out the wordings of the hadith I quoted it from it is in body it is in Muslim it is in about the whole there is and there are means in Muslim Ahmed it is in all of these narrations I showed the several problem the problems with these chains I showed

that how these chains mainly rely on they seem to come down mainly relying upon two kind of tether in you've got a lot mush and it also relies on patada as well and the hadith is transmitted predominantly through a beretta or the Elan but these two people are deadly seen that's people who kind of omit other week some day admit people in the chain so if they say an which means from without saying I heard from they just say so-and-so said they don't say he said it to me or I heard him say if they speak like that like vague I'm is a

vague term if they use vague terms then they hadith becomes problematic so I mentioned that I also mentioned how these clashes with the verse of the Quran that are she wound up in my roof that you have to treat women with kindness Allah says you either with them or you set gracefully how the prophets Allah listen always to kindness I showed that how so all of these these narratives how there is no coercion in Islam all of these kind of things I went through now okay our lobby brothers right so he's pointed

out first of all I would like to highlight our sunny defense brothers they pointed out that during all of this this all during my analysis and evaluation of this hadith I highlighted three names which he says which were from I obtained from a forum that misrepresented the quotes and therefore they inaccurate okay so first of all I want to say first of all I want to say thank you shukran shukran for

highlighting that muchas gracias me hermano and Wahhabi I first of all know we should be grateful when people point things out hamdu lillah man lam yasha Kareem a slim ish couldn't love whoever does not is not grateful to people is not grateful to Allah to the Lord right so then I want to highlight that look these these quotes or these names I mentioned with them what they'd said okay I then immediately if you watch my clip which they quite conveniently stopped at that point if you watch my

clip I go on I don't stop the I carry on these clips iPad sorry these quotations I do not take as my judgment I do not take as my judgment so one of the these quotations come down to two things one that this person a lash lat mush is a cath lab is a liar - he's motohama Dini he write that he's somebody who's being is problematic now I go on to say immediately after that why a lot mesh is problematic I do not say because he's a liar

I do not say because his Dean is a problem I say a lack mesh is problematic because he's a motherless and there is uh Nana in this chain so you can watch what I say I immediately after that go on to say this so as far as these quotes being in a forum let's say misrepresented shukran shukran okay they misrepresented I appreciate that you've highlighted that so his conclusion by the way his conclusion was because these let's say these three quotes these three names and these quote coming down to him being a

liar or him being accused he that his Dean was problem at his religion was problematic that these things are from my forum which is misrepresented z4a boo less by the way I love the way they're all say lathe I believe I will list is one of two he's either he's either Dajjal he's either an antichrist or he's just an utter J he'll who's absolutely wrong in what he's saying so okay let's

go to what I've said why don't you so am I why don't you highlight very clearly that I'm wrong in saying a lot my she's a motherless I'm ranked highlighted say that I'm wrong in saying that much the model is say that I'm wrong in the chain that hadith that I've quoted and the tough reach that it's found in these books am I wrong no they'll say no you're absolutely right it is in those books am I wrong in reading the change that it was that much from her house in from a beret say no no that is right that is right that will live I'd say am I wrong in mentioning and that it comes

down primarily to these two Rorie's say no that is not wrong this on my brother say am I wrong in highlighting that evening Mubarak and his criticism of a lot much am I wrong name or a lien on Medini or intangible command that the amount of that lease a lot much has done that is omitted names lalala and Allah ie has mentioned that utility so on in the author even after Boris mentioned you don't listen enough

that from weak narrators you would omit them am I wrong am I wrong to say no am I wrong in my conclusion in saying that this hadith has a modulus and it's an honor am I wrong rather why didn't he just openly say it's wrong let's design this what you could not do but they would say no you're not wrong so I'll say okay I'm on so so what's the problem my brother what a problem they

say the problem is you're at the jail the problem is you're at the jail I don't know I don't know what's it come back to that I'm asking like right so am I wrong in every so is all of this wrong then have I lied in all of this is this what you know what I've based the conclusion on my own conclusion that is a model is what these people have said these names have not the bar let her be all these names of quality sayings a model is the ll of tirmidhi all of these

things are these wrong sena brother so what the problem rather problem is you done oh yes alarm you know seriously you see look this is the this is the problem you know this is the problem that no once I'm less how will s is here highlighting that you ask these people do you have a problem with rape going on the marital rape they don't seem to have a problem with that okay

our Amy Gulf Arab brothers you know the harem brothers you know this not all this particular brother right so they don't seem to have a problem with the rape they don't seem to have a problem with such nonsense being attributed to the Prophet they don't seem to have a problem with this going against the verse of the Quran about coercion and all of these things have no problem whatsoever they don't seem to attack what I've highlighted as the actual criticism the actual conclusion of what I've said attack that o you by the way in between

you said these names but these names were misrepresented on the forum okay did I rely on those names did I rely on those things did I go with what did I call that much I kept there did I say his religion was a problem did I say these did I go with that as the reason to debunk this hadith no rather I said he was a motherless but it's it's but you must either be at the jail or either leader Hill so this this is the problem this is what we're dealing with so I've been asked to comment again I've

commented now look if you would like to show that this chain is absolutely authentic then do so show it to me show me an unquestionably uncritical chain allowing this kind of nonsense of marital rape show me and I will then take it to task but this is the you know we they just oh we've asked this is the BS the BS of Abu layth the B this is where the research is one thing and the

result is another if in fact there's a story I remember somebody told me you know like a sub-continental scholar from the subcontinent he said once there wasn't a somebody doing some research so he was researching flies and he's trying to show the contrast between sometimes research the investigation and the result so you had this fly and he was and what he would do is he would pull like it obviously trapped this fly fly around he'd check it out investigating then

you'd clock one of the wings and then you'd say auto off like you told to fly fly fly so that so it only have one ring so kind of flap around like kind of like all bent and everywhere then what he did is he plucked both wings and the flight would just stay there and he'd say no fly fly and the fly wouldn't fly so he said ah so his result was the conclusion so that was the investigation the result was he said it part is kind if you'd pull out one wing this fly McKee period

at the you know if it flies bent but if you pull out two wings you plucked wings your mucky barrier data becomes death so that's that's what you have a huge difference between an investigation so he's assuming that the fly is now death so this is the thing so because that is saying that this was misrepresented on a particular forum so now Abu layth must

be an antichrist he must be at the job that's the natural conclusion that just follows on the natural conclusion isn't that yes all these hadith and let's deal with the third lease and let's bring a chain that's unquestionably uncritical the natural conclusion is okay because that forum had this or whatever this is misrepresented these names which you didn't rely on by the way but still the natural conclusion is you must be an

antichrist oh god I love them oh do do do in other pakistani stars ago haters are haters I tell you haters now this you got it see they have this this drive to them you got to be grateful for your haters as well to be fair you gotta be grateful because to be honest with you it's like somebody said the other day

about hater and I said look I said let's be honest I said to the guy if you were anything like that person a stuffing luck I'm not saying it people were saying I'm not saying he was ugly people are saying Solomon yeah but if you were anything like these people like I'm just saying in particular this person we were discussing the other day who was kind of hating I said let's just face it let's be honest if you are like that let's just use the term Muharram deprived you

two would hate the world so you have to you have to have this you have to give you a sympathy to these haters you have to say haters Aulani mercy right let's move on people let's take some questions let's take some questions