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Monday Nights with Mufti Abu Layth: Session 124

salah salaah namaz salaat namaaz as-salah al-salah salawat hajj haj hadj aqidah aqeedah aqida theology aqeeda aqaid hadeeth ahadith ahaadeeth hadis ahaadith sahih saheeh sahih hadith saheeh hadith sound hadith tafsir exegesis tafasir tafaseer commentary combining prayers jam' al-salah jam bayn al-salatayn jam' al-salatayn musafir traveller traveler musaafir malik ibn anas malik bin anas imam maalik imam malik ibn anas imaam prayer leader ramadhan ramzan ramazan ramadaan eid eid al-fitr eid al-adha eid ul-fitr eid ul-adha eidul fitr eidul adha bakra eid bari eid choti eid tawaaf circumambulation ka'bah ka'ba kaabah masjed masaajid masajid mosque maaliki malikite malikiyyah maliki school fatwah fatawa fatwaa fataawa legal opinion muftis hukm ahkam hukum hukam ahkaam haraam forbidden mubah mubaah dalil daleel adillah adilla proof sanad isnaad asanid chain of narration imaan eemaan eeman djinn jin jinnat jinni sihr sihar jadu jadoo kala jadu sorcery akhirah akhira aakhirah akhirat jahannam jahanam jahannum quraan al-quran ayah aya ayat ayaat aayah aayat wahy wahi wahee sahabah sahabi sahabiyyah sahabiyat as-salaf salaf al-salih salaf us-salih al-salaf makka mekka madinah madina al-madinah madeenah yathrib shiah shiite shi'i twelver ithna ashari salafism wahabi wahhabism ulama ulema ulamaa nikah nikkah nikaah nikah nama nikahnama niqaab burqa burka purdah parda face veil insha'allah in shaa allah insha allah inshaa allah alhamdulilah al-hamdu lillah alhumdulillah alhamdulillaah subhan allah subhaanallah subhanallaah ma sha allah mashallah masha allah mashaa allah as-salamu alaykum assalamu alaikum assalamualaikum salaams salam alaykum wa alaykum as-salam peace greeting fitrat natural disposition amanah amana amaanah amanat al-din ad-deen ad-din ibadah ibada ibaadah ibadat ajr sawab thawab thawaab sawaab

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Allah in alhamdulillah wa kafa or salat wa salam o allah rasool mustafa voila a body leading of Toba Oh mummy who da master da wah be a sorry Almudena toughie or bad for salam ala a little comb allah wa salim bikumu marhaban o shah-e running lights bienvenidos a todos people by Rowley and swagatam swagatam right so right we are black people even though we did have a

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Monday night or a Q&A last week slightly ahead of schedule on the Sunday live from the ark but this is the first life directly just exclusive historian Allah Facebook for me frente poor my frente so people this one's going straight out for you since since the beginning of Ramadan

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so I gotta say let me just take what what have we got in store for tonight Allah Allah some questions some discussions some narratives being analyzed and also we have them of the

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masala people off the internet being hijacked by this why this jinn busting couple celebrity couple hi hi um an Abu Abdullah ji our theory of key these guys what can we say people what can we say there is just oh so much been going on so much been going on I'm sure you've all heard about

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it oh and I thought we were unleashing fittin in facade these people man yes alarm and the truth truth be told I knew about this for a considerable while considerable while pops maybe about two years now but Kafka see I'm not into the expose culture you know on the X or Z

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but now it looks like they've been exposed sabor catastrophe sham kombucha Renteria how many pull - Ivanka battle today oh I gotta be the the emotions that Tsubaki

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the Machine those who had were throned or on a throne by morning sham come wit him Terry by evening they were criminals how many Iqbal - II won't go but I'll take that in moments we saw people's destinies flip on them yes Allah what an age that we live the Internet as well Internet we both you know it's no

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different from the 15th century medieval times where people would the crowds would be like hang them hang we've just resorted to that but online so now in person everybody's like oh rather how and good morning to yourself oh the pleasantries one does pleasantly acquiesce to certain and then online

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they like die die execute them kill them [Laughter] solemn dunya poppies and sod people poppies and Sun this while we're gonna come back to that musty masala towards the end we've got to you know we've got to wait you know we gotta wait

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experiment this better man just wait hang in there hang in there so let's take a look at some questions first of all gen taco pareshan optimist I'll or alcohol and I don't

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mean the fake gym busting her gym I mean this whole gym culture is a sham anyway gyms don't possess people that's nonsense but anyway putting that aside there thing was definitely let's get to let's get to some questions that you people

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have asked somebody's asking somebody said Apple radar reported a last messenger saying do greet the Jews but force them into aside the narrow side of the street I mean do you really you see the thing is do you really believe that the Prophet would have said things like this we've got to think about it because look the Prophet begins his whole his

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establishment of the Deen in Medina by the Covenant what is known in English as the Covenant of Medina what we call in Arabic Mita or Medina so the meat sack the me thought is a kind of is this covenant it's this agreement this pact between the greater tribes surrounding Europe which is the old name for Medina and the Prophet and the Muslims who are then come to be known as the Unser now if you look at that how the Prophet is

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saying that look you the Jews the Christians National Martin wahida we are one nation one people that's what the Prophet is saying does it sound like this is the same prophet who then is saying force these people into a narrow side of the street I mean you tell me just just do that do the maths yourself does that add up one could say one could argue one could argue that maybe times changed times change people could say that perhaps towards the end of the

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prophets life times changed but then let's take the Jewish people as an example when the Prophet passed he had passed away he had one of his final transactions was where he had loaned some money from a Jewish person and and left as pawned left his shield as a kind of guarantee or replacement now why would the Prophet be try engaging in these transactions with Jewish people if that was his sentiment why not just say up the juice why not just say kill them

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or destroy them and take their money but he wasn't so these are happy all seem like later either they misinterpretations or somebody thinks they heard the Prophet say this all they made up later on Marwan didn't accidentally kill Talha he did it on purpose Marwan my one didn't kill tal ha ha ha

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dies in the Battle of the camel right let's move on what a very serious serious question you know we open this today's episode all lively and fresh you know it's what's that hasta kill t me honey may I share our pitocin Zhi Dao you know we come into this to this tavern this place for drinking we're all happy after we've had a drink or two we get all serious yeah yeah we ought to be more lively

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that's the so let's see what are the questions people have been posting some questions online what are your thoughts on alcohol cooking food this is a good one right now the school of Medina the Maliki method they were always very innovative by the way the Maliki method has some of the most innovative kind of Fatah WA very creative minds unrestricted by their by the you know the politics of the day and age not

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always but some people amongst them he only takes a few geniuses that's all yes so you will get within the molecule matter you will find certain Allah MA that have given this fatwa that have stated that alcohol so hot table for example discusses in his Marhaba Jalil you'll get other order mother we'll

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discuss it stating that alcohol if it's if it's used for cooking does is it still nurtures is it Haram is impure because it has a evaporates much quicker than other kind of liquids so it's that fear its impact kind of evaporates so you will get some of the molecule allah ma have given a fatwa stating that it's permissible so some of the classic kind

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of allah ma you've got amongst them it's a brown right but I'll come back to it's been kind of critiqued by other Allah ma they felt that you know it's not they've said oh it's not permissible and things like this but if you if you if you look at their reasoning they've got a point I mean personally I'm not I wouldn't be fond of that ruling personally although

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I do acknowledge the kind of the difference on me I acknowledge the esta laugh but I'm just saying I'm not personally that fond of it okay so all right let's take the next question so I know some of the Muslim converts by the way like some of the Maliki converts hmm live in Norwich for example now some of them in their cooking they allow this so I mean it is a cultural thing I mean if you're Pakistani generally or you're not

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going to really have these kind of things in your food right anyway let's let's move on another question were the people of Moses all commanded to kill each other after the crime of the worshipping the calf no they weren't you know the verse saying about Wachter Lewin for circum it wasn't about kill kill yourselves but there was a certain

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punishment for some people amongst them it wasn't that this kind of mass suicide that's not although we could be the verse could be read like that in the Quran but that's not what the verse means cool what else people what else is going on how did the cell of deterministic multiply in the absence of the Kaaba pray in front of the Kaaba in a circle or a square right okay this is

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this is interesting because I've recently this for a while now I've been really reading into a lot of this the Islam revisionist culture and a material they research a lot of people you know that are you've got Michael cook patricia crone you've got one spray you've got Fred Donna you've got time Gibson speaking now all these people Islam revisionists who are they're not a

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unified voice you've got rose as well they're not a unified voice but they have certain kind of similarities between what they calling for so they calling for Islam to be revised and these are they're non-muslims by the way they're not Muslims they Orientalist but they're new-age orientalists so Orientalism seems to have changed its tracks you've got the old age orientalists gold sire and other people who really focused on things like hadith

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and they problematize and you've got shaft and all these people of that legacy who study who focused on the concept of isnad and they revised it and they reviewed it and they felt that he don't really make much sense okay they said that it's neither was being made up and they've all got their own theories on things like that but that was a kind of old age the first wave of Orientalism now that wave understood like non-muslims understood that we're going to take what Muslims have to say about Islam at face value like we're going to

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accept it and we're going to take it as a given and we're going to critique that tradition so Muslims we have a tradition that in Islam like the Prophet for example he was somebody born and raised in much he received revelation at the age of 40 he preached in Makkah for about 13 years then traveled to Medina preached there for about 10 years and then passed away and during his lifetime all these events happened this is the general narrative of Islam that Muslims have put out now what Muslims have put out as the narrative of Islam doesn't

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always have to be 100% accurate we've got a lot of myths as well that circulate in our culture's so people make up nice stories about the Prophet for example now because they sound nice they continue to perpetuate these stories because they sound nice to people they don't have to be true a good example is the Night Journey of the Prophet the Prophet didn't travel in his night journey physically but people think he did I mean many people believed he did other companions didn't believe that he did it was just a vision but that's an example is that there's a

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story that the Prophet as a child had his chest operated on and cut open and it's pulled out and washed and put back in I mean all these things are made up these things have no basis in Islam but people have spread these because they sound nice to people they're part of this narrative of Islam people will say things like rocks used to talk to the Prophet you know trees used to come talking to the Prophet needs to move around and do things and I mean these are all folklore stories but my point of what I'm trying to say is that that part

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that part non-muslims don't take seriously anyway that part non-muslims thought you know Muslims have just lost the plot but they thought that okay we're going to take the data as as factual so the fact that the Prophet lived here he did this he was a trader he married fatihah he did this he did that he married Aisha we're going to take these things at face like as the Muslims given we're going to accept it in the 70s more or less there was a movement by some of these New Age Orientalists that are now referred to as

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Islam revisionists they've said that no we need to stop doing this we're not going to accept anything muslims say like we're going to begin with a blank slate and we're only going to accept what we can prove so we're going what we can prove through archaeological finding through through mass transmission so for example all through you've got antagonist transmission like so you've got other people who don't really support Muslims but they also transmit something so they they said we're gonna begin with an absolute

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scratch like from absolute scratch get rid of everything Muslims have said so they start off with questions like did the Prophet Muhammad even exist or was he made up so this is how they begin and then they start to etch their way they start to gather information and so I've been really reading investigating exploring me and some like-minded in patrols have been really you know burning up on neurons going through so many things I mean it's been so overwhelming the amount of stuff now they generally all accept pretty

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much I mean they most accept that the Prophet Mohammed existed Salalah I leave Salem he has been corroborated through other sources through some buys Byzantine historians speak of him one Byzantine historian writes about the Prophet one year after his death they don't write much about the Prophet they just say there's this Arab you know this this guy called Mohammed or called Mohammed similar to that and they say that he you know he we ware of him is a false prophet stuff like this I mean so but that's enough to demonstrate that this person that the Prophet existed for these people then they've gone into

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other things like the maka is a very interesting thing that they've tried they there's a lot of questions they're trying to say my cat was Petra the city of Petra and Muslims later on reinvented I mean this is a lengthy lengthy discussion that I've got to at some point go over I want to go present it as a detailed explanation someday but I've got to finish a lot of the a lot of the investigation a lot of the resources so far my understanding is that definitely

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I feel as as there are sir and amongst them that look Makkah was Makkah it is what it is Makkah today you know so this wasn't a kind of Muslim conspiracy however I do accept that these people are not you know they're not just chatting nonsense that they are onto something but it's not what they think so they claim is that Makkah wasn't Makkah and it was the city of Petra and this is we and they've got their

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evidences for e and they've got some interesting evidences and and I don't agree with this personally I'm not of this opinion of any kaffir to say something you know close the door on their face and oh like we'll get scared and oh my god oh my god you know I'm not of that opinion I will actually listen to what they have to say I will respect the I mean some of these people I have to give it to them they dedicated their entire lives to this study of revising Islam I mean they lived and died I mean patricia crone she wrote so much I mean and then

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she died doing this research I'm like wow and it's a it's so my conclusion so far are that I feel that Muslim history has definitely neglected things like free Islamic influences on Arabian society so I think we've ignored all of that some Muslim historians mentioned some of it like Hamdani mentions and things Massaro D touches upon certain things bellari certain things but they

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don't you see Muslim historians seem to have you see the way we've acted is like Arabs were in darkness nothing just useless can't think of anything they just this is the way we're acting they were just retards and then you know all of a sudden the Prophet Muhammad sallallahu alayhi wa sallam was born and then islam came in islam brought all these intellectualism and all of a sudden Lee boy intelligence and everything starts then now that's not exactly true I mean Islam does bring a

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huge Islam does what for the Arabs and for Muslims what obviously for Muslims but for the Arabs what nothing before it managed to pull off that is true and the power of the light of Islam is so bright that it eclipses its it's past that is true so it's like a bright Sun that shining and when you look at you can't see the things around it but the truth is that there was a huge rich history that the Arabs had prior to Islam they had a rich history I mean the Arabs have been around for almost about 3,000 years they were

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dispersed kind of people there were many many more Arabs that lived in the Middle East then Muslim historians acknowledged in the past oh maybe I'm not saying they did this purposely they probably just didn't care so much about this when the time came so they were I mean in the millions there were Arabs living in the Middle East many more Arabs in the Middle East and they were in the Arabian Peninsula now this is something that we're not were often not taught so it comes as a shock to Muslims now those Arabs did they consider

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themselves Arabs like what we imagine Arabs to be like if they have an Arab identity that is a question mark i I don't believe that they did exactly I think they spoke a kind of Arabic ish it was linked but they probably saw themselves more as Christian or Jews or Byzantine or so you get things like what some of the Arabs I believe was it Philip the Arab who's an a Roman Emperor it becomes an empress so you have these people who rise to certain levels and

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they prosper they don't see themselves as the Arabian Peninsula and amongst these this civilization of Arabs you had the Nabataeans and these people did rule Petra and there's a whole rich history about these Nabataeans and I think because we've not as Muslims explored this much now that the non-muslims and Islam revisionists are bringing this up it's coming as a shock okay right so yes and of course III the the book by Tim McIntosh is an excellent walk he gives a very rich history it's

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called Arabs a three thousand year history it's an amazing that is something part of my research that I'm going through I'm about halfway through that book omits many of the books we're going through so it's now I do feel that she saw some there's several things like what I was saying is that our historians acknowledge so we acknowledge that in his in Arab history there were things like many cabers many pilgrimages there were many kind of there wasn't just the Kaaba in Mecca that was not so many historians right maybe there were thirty

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different covers that people used to go to that or some people say there's more the point is that there were many different pilgrimage sites that existed hundreds of years before the Prophet that people used to go to some in the South Arabian area with Sabah you know the sheba that kingdom of sheba you've got some in the north now petra i feel may have been what kind of triggered a lot of the pilgrimage things hundreds of years before islam maybe because petra seems to be a place

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a burial site that the Nabataean arabs seem to set up that they would bury their major people in wherever they were if they were people of prominence that were taken back to petra and buried there and then they had this festive feast not festival but a feast and then this began to be an annual pilgrimage with buried bodies so this may have then triggered because the Nabataeans had a flourishing kingdom the kingdom was slightly different to other kingdoms like they weren't so much about they were more about business they were like a business people they

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weren't so much like like a Roman Empire they weren't so much like that but because of that the influence they had naturally the other Arabs would have looked up to them so perhaps this triggered a lot of the influencing influence in neighboring Arab and regions so a lot of the famous Arab gods seemed to come from Petra that is true so things like lat which is the famous God mentioned in the Koran the feminine some people say the the partner of Allah or the the mother of other gods like - ooh-rah and other kind of the Sun God and other gods these

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gods seem to Hubble they seem to original Aziza seems to originate in Petra then other Arabs seem to assume those deities as their major God so I think but if had assumed that as the major they God and they dedicated a kind of almost like a pilgrimage thing - I've read in certain places referred to as Kabul so my point is that a lot of Arabs seem to have been influenced by what happened or what the legacy of Petra was by the time Islam comes on the scene Petra isn't what it used to be Petra had a

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huge legacy for hundreds of years then the Romans took it over and then you have I think in the third century coming into the fourth century if there's a major earthquake in Petra and then that causes huge damage and then it forever loses that shine that it had but I do feel that a lot of people a lot of the other Arabs took the rituals some of their rituals from Petra including maybe the pilgrimage things like this now I think Mecca may have obviously had the

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story of Abraham as well so to add to this whole thing of Ibrahim Ali Salim now I feel that one of the things that Koresh may have done is they may have claimed that like in other places you had holy people buried they were two sites so Petra was a tomb site where people were buried so some there's certainly Wyatt in our tradition in the Muslim tradition that say ismail alaih-is-salaam and his mother Hodja are buried in hitter a smile by the Kaaba so if you you know where you have the Kaaba then you have that wall it's called the Hydra is naive now some

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of the rewired the Muslim narrations mentioned that a smile is buried in the as is Hodja his mother now this may make sense that how the early Arabs saw this as a pilgrimage site and they began the whole it may be that that gave it more importance there's also an understanding that safa and marwah may have been something that they imitated from other places like Petra of the places I mean the point was that by the time Islam emerges these things have become recognized as an act of worship

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now Islam condones them it acknowledges them and hence you have the so for example if you take Safa and Marwah as an example let's assume I'm not a hundred percent sure but let I was reading about how hot fun some of the tribe of God fan had this thing between these mounts and that they took from the other gods and there was a hot funny person who introduced in Makkah between safa and marwah is running back and forth seven times now and then later Parrish and some of garage projected the

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story of Hodja and Ismail and that may not have actually happened now if this be true you have some Muslim scholars like core to be and other MOFA Syrian who addressed this issue in native sieve so core to be States in stuff sieve that the unser of Medina accepted the Tawaf but they've rejected the Safa and Marwah support to be rights that Wakaba Ankara Bardo ala Lenin and some people of knowledge rejected the Safa and Marwah they said that the Quraish had made this up as part of the pagan practices that

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this wasn't to do with the Abraham and the initial thing this was a pagan tradition so there are our own sources do show us that that discussion did happen in Islam now the interesting thing is the verses of the Quran state then that look in the safar warmer water mean sure our ear Allah Allah states the Safa and Marwah oh look now they are something that symbolized God it may have been that the origin was something else but now they are Shia in Allah now listen to the rest of the verse ferment that the

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wobbly man if so whosoever and thought that the work here is from the word ah no I don't it doesn't mean to be voluntarily so the public can mean to be to volunteer for something here it means whosoever assumes them as far as an act of worship fermented the water bahama for in ilaha illa Allah then Allah is grateful you see meaning that even if they did have a past that wasn't really based on a smile or on hogr

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even if it had a pagan past even if it did I'm not saying it did 100% but some Muslims some of the unsolved the Companions of the Prophet did believe that he had a pagan past if that be the case Allah says fermentative EEMA what's important now is who considers them to be an act of worship to God and who does that for in a logical and Ali then allies grateful that you are worshiping him so I would say that it's not a problem that if these things some of these things had that they were

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assimilated the point is that they became recognized as an act of worship so so in the prophet's time when he is saying so accepting certain things doing certain things this this allows it this this shows that look like sacrificing animals Allah says the meat doesn't reach God it's just your commitment it's your dedication it's your devotion that's important you know so and it's very likely that things like the stoning of the the jama'at these things were a tenancy they were to denounce the

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false idols maybe a lot and monotonous maybe they were to denounce them and later on it seems that later on as Islam spread Muslims to reconnect with the greater Arabs may have overemphasized an Abrahamic story to everything because Arabs even the Nabataeans or other people they all believed they were descendents of Abraham so this allowed Muslims to bridge it kind of showed that well look this is Ibrahim Alisa now so it gave them something more to relate to

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I feel that there's some plausibility in that theory I'm not saying that it has to be the case I'm just looking working with the evidence but let's see inshallah there's a lot this so much going on so much research so for example it's it's really important and I think it's important to know these things in the problem with us not knowing has been that when Islam revisionists have come up with them they've turned in you know it's become a slap in the face for us because we don't know and it confuses many Muslims so for example one of the issues is where does the Arabic script come from so I mean this is not the

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Quran this is a book in fit by motifs are of Imam Rosalee but I mean you can't exactly see but the Arabic script that we have today which in technical term is referred to as jism was not the original Arabic script that the Arabs used to have that is pretty factual it seems that this was actually the Nabataean script the people of the embarked okay the it was this script the Arabs seemed to be using a script which is later referred to in Arabic as a muslin or huttle Hemmerle and this is the south

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today refer to a south arabian script it looks more like hieroglyphics it's like shaped circles and all this stuff and it's not like Arabic at all Arabic has occurred you know you can kind of move join it and things like this that wasn't like that at all now this Nabataean script that we have today we call it today jism and that's called moose nut okay now Jess um was it was a Nabataean script and there's been studies done to show that you had like 22 letters the same amount of letters without the dots that Arabic had in its early stage and and then it seems to be that certain

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cities that were in Iraq that were Christian or Arab cities like Hara Hara seems to have a huge influence it seems to be a a cultural capital of that the rest of Arabia seems to be kind of looking up it seems to be like the London Paris the New York you know where everybody is kind of the fashion icons for Arabian this is where all the major poets come from labeed ash Nabi ha all these people and they seem to have adopted this script from the Nabataeans

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and then you've got stories that some people introduce it into maka so you have Abdul Malik Yoba sure who's the son-in-law of who's the brother-in-law sorry of Abu Sufyan he is one of the first people to introduce this script into Makkah and then most likely the Prophet had introduced into medina by the captives of brother asking them to that they can if they can teach people who soever they can teach that you know it's the prophecy and if you can teach two or three people from the

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Ansar how to write then that's your freedom and this is how that script then gets migrates into yesterday into Medina and because this script becomes popular in the Arabian Peninsula around the lifetime of the Prophet and then after the Prophet this is the language that the script that Islam uses and it pushes forward so the Quran is written in this script and this then becomes obviously what Arabic is then known as so that's not a problem in any way but by the way for anybody thinking I mean this the the you know it's not an issue

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whatever script the Arabs chose the point is by not knowing these things it's a problem so some Muslims feel that this script is divine God taught the Arabic script to the people I mean if you believe that then this is a huge problem then they goes Yoram and like you know the olden days Salafis the they call them humbly not either so the humbly zenith either used to believe that not only the quran is divine but its letters are divine the

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script so there goes the humbly appeared out the window right because it looks like it didn't come from God it seems to have come from the Nabataeans so I mean but most Muslims are Chinese and you know Mari these and most Muslim ninety percent of Muslims 95 percent or Muslim never believed that the script was divine they believed that the script was just a vehicle in which we wrote Arabic so you know that's not so nevertheless right so these are some interesting

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points so when we say about the cab as well how did people point towards the Kaaba when they prayed the Kaaba they wouldn't have used 360 degrees because this didn't exist back then you've got to remember how people back then thought of the world if anything they just thought in four directions at best and sometimes some of them are just dealing in two directions almost so you've got to it's a very different way at looking at the world and the Arabs seem to navigate themselves by the Stars so Allah says were being edge me home yet the dawn and with with the star they

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they navigate and they guide themselves so and this I know Danny Gibson has done in his theories that Muslims used to pray towards Petra I think I've gone through a lot of his things and there's a lot more I've still got to go through he's done quite a bit of work I'm not convinced I'm not convinced because the evidence he shows it is true that many mosques do seem to be from by his research they seem to be more pointing towards petra than they are towards mecca so he's got each of the old he's got like 60 mosques that

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are the most ancient mosques and he's trying to show how many degrees they're off from McCann how many degrees they are from Petra but some of them are closer to Makar than they are to Petra and some are closer to Petra than the automata and so I accept that you know in some cases it holds true it doesn't hold true in all the cases in many cases they not be closer to Mecca than they are to Petra in the direction in some cases like in the North African masks they're not close to any they just point south they just seem to you know sold in tune in tunis the jami of rock by banana fare the jam is a tuna the all these kind of mustards seem to just point south they don't seem

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to point towards not petra no makkah the masjid in cordoba that was about 300 years after after islam after the prophet that seems to just point more or less yourself not towards either so I think the question he doesn't you know fulfill any it's not compelling but it's interesting I think you know why some people just are very angry at these people personally I'm not angry at them I'm disappointed at Muslims for especially Muslim countries and Muslim research bodies

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that have huge access that they are not allowed to do archaeological digs and findings why can't why doesn't so de Lao you know we could end a lot of this debate if they would just allow some archaeological tests in Makkah why don't they just allow it I don't understand what the Saudi problem is you know there's a lot of things that could be we are to blame that we refused the Muslim countries refuse to do these things they don't seem to be interested or they seem to block it and then along come these non-muslims who spend their entire life [Laughter]

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throw some real spiders in the woods and then we're like huh a better sitting cry anyway I find it interesting I find it like a challenge as in yeah you know I'm very confident about Islam so I've always felt that I don't feel this anything that Islam can't answer it may not be the answer that people expect but I believe that it will always stand to the test it may be

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slightly different to what people think or thought but it will always stand the test in my understanding and I welcome any challenges and this to if I'm not gonna if I'm gonna be honest it's probably been the greatest challenge I've ever seen chuck Bartowski you have they go child you want to challenge because there's just so much there's so much to look at it's not like one challenge there's like a hundred different challenges within this tsunami that's the end so but we've got some people this mean it's you know one two of the most these and there's some

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people working with trying to sift through some of this let's see God willing I believe yours oh hey madam madam mother they Hoda you know that's the thing but I welcome it I don't you know abuse these people for how dare you try to attack Islam I know they have the right to question question bucho Y mucho recipe job conning it's not like we're gonna answer anyway let's take some questions let's take some questions

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right so you should give a lecture yes I will in sha Allah when I conclude all this research it's just I've been reading and reading and reading this so much so much honestly it's overwhelming but yeah so and most Muslims don't even want to you see it's difficult even finding good like-minded researching scholars that you can bounce notes off because most Muslims I've spoken to about this just get scared they don't want to even they don't even want to they don't want to

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talk about it with you they just like so I'll hamdulillah there are one two people that I'm kind of going through this with very talented and so it's good it's been good being able to share thoughts and bounce back forth and but otherwise it's hard man because people you know you speak to Muslim scholars and oh you know most of them they're not really into their research and others they're just too scared they're not like they just think oh my god oh my god Oh

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looking into this now it's fake I think why are we gonna find out it's fake relax good stuff what was hard cool I have some faithful God's sake all right so let's let's take some questions well let's take some questions but I want to share some of that with you guys look don't worry about it I am looking into

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it and I can say that it's it's it's good you know it's the challenge is tough but it's not insurmountable and it's not something that is soul-crushing I find it kind of like I find it refreshing as a challenge that yeah it's been one of the the best challenges I've come across really that's really had me thinking like I mean like ah good shot it's like oh you like the Jackie Chan movies

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and you like what this one good we need to come back so yeah a mambo hardy was a Salafi he didn't follow one imam he did used to more I don't think Imam Hardy was a Salafi that's a bit unfair really [Music] right I'm going to talk about the gin Buster's but I'm going to ask some questions you could deal with some Q&A first that's at the end that's the masala segment masala we gotta throw the masala at the end remember Hari wasn't celephaïs I don't feel he was Salafi I

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think that's unfair there was no such thing as Salafi like back then but if you mean he used to just follow hadith he probably did but I don't think he was like the Salafis of today right okay let's take when standing at graves earth Munroe the LA one would weep until his beard was wet when asked why he did this he referred to the Hereafter doesn't this signify that the punishment in the afterlife is not merely a threat but a reality you see we don't I don't

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it's not like I've come back from the afterlife you know I genuinely don't know I want to say something you know this reminds me it's really fascinating that the early Muslims never ever taught us what taught us Creed now that's quite fast in fact by the way this you know the Islam revisionists this is one of their criticisms okay so their criticism is about the Creed the criticism is about

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the the latter two so there's three things that the early Muslims just did not do now by the early Muslims I mean the selleth the Sahaba the Companions the turban those who came after them and those who came after them the earth about a vein and that includes up until the time of Imam Malik that kind of time now these people despite Islam being a religion by primarily Islam being a faith yet these people never really taught us what we're meant to believe in

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Islam and you know what these selfies and all these people say they're just lying right no there is nothing from the Salaf on a detail I don't mean obviously they said there's one God I mean I know that kind of stuff that stuff's in the Quran but they didn't teach a Creed like this is what you meant to believe one two three four lists like I don't know 60 odd things they never taught this they never taught a Creed they never taught they never did a complete of sale of the Quran and they never wrote a biography of the Prophet now the latter two have been critiqued by some of the

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Islam revisionists that why did they not one is why did they not do it the seed of the quran moosa what there were islam revisionist huh what the islam revisionists are critiquing is why did they not write a biography of the Prophet and I think that's a good question you know not want to run away from right Cina nickel Kia with confidence I think we need to tackle these questions these are really good questions because it is true that they are writing extensively by this time so

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by this time the Muslims are so all right you can't see here but the Madonna of Imam Malik for example they students right that has about 30,000 issues indeed imam abu hanifa books avoid or rewire has about 100,000 Messiah Linda and they're talking in so much detail about rent and if you rent this property and this happens and your neighbor does this so oh he he brings his horse this much onto your land all his cows graze on your fields all these so that or if you buy seeds in the sum of the seeds or slightly a day to you buy these so

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you're harvesting or you and they kill the Messiah in this so they kill them so much they're so boring they talk so much about these the legalisms of the day and age like this person's having this debate he saying no I paid this much money and you did this and they're talking so much and writing so much about this that so we can't say that there are people that weren't writing they were writing they were writing their heads off so the question is why

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did they not write a biography of the Prophet you know uncle Sal opera Shankar gaya you know we now have to deal with this this issue that why because they don't seem to have written a biography now even his heart who is a contemporary of Imam Malik seems to have but remember even he is over a hundred and fifty years after the Prophet he compiled so much details about the Prophet but his things are lost until Ignatian comes

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afterwards who is almost 200 years after the Prophet who writes the first biography of the Prophet now the question is why didn't whistling never decide to write a book to teach their children what the prophet's life was about right so that is a very good question not one to shy away from the response to that is you see the response to that has certain layers to it and we've got to understand the layers because sometimes somebody can ask a very simple a very good question and they want a like just give me the answer what

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this and this isn't a yes/no answer yes it's true that they did not write a biography of the Prophet why didn't they write a biography of the Prophet and buy a biography of the Prophet I don't mean hadith so they did document hadith which were primarily to do with legalisms so the hadith they documented were really the purpose was to preserve the teachings of the Prophet not about the personality of the Prophet that was a secondary tertiary aspect and even the

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Shema ill are not really they just you know some descriptions of the Prophet they nothing it's not like a biography by like picking up a book and reading a biography of somebody hey when somebody was seven years old he went here when he was eight years old when this person was like this or when this person was like this or one day he was sitting here he was doing this we don't have a biography like that about the Prophet and that is true so why don't we well first of all we've got to understand that biographies like this weren't a common practice so we've got to understand that that they weren't a common you know like writing a

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book that this is the life and times of so-and-so like today it's a common practice we like somebody you know let here's a biography here's a biography of Malcolm X for example here's a biography now you want to read about where this person was born what he did in his school life what he did here there his relationships his day-to-day living right up until you know his political career and then his death this historically was not a thing like that so when Kings or prominent people had biographies written about them they weren't like this they were usually to

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do with things like great victories that they'd achieved so Kings had biographies written about things like Wars I won this war and I went here and I conquered this Kingdom honor it wasn't like a day-to-day living of the person so that's layer number one it's important to understand that it wasn't a culture of this so if you look at Jesus for example now very little very little is known about Jesus prior to his ministry of of prophethood or of prior to his ministry of preaching so at the age of thirty Jesus seems to appear and preach for the next you know

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a few years that's it we don't know much about anything about Jesus growing up you know this is an incident obviously his nativity thing is mentioned in the two Gospels and then there's one mention about him being taken to Egypt and there's a mention in one gospel about him as a young boy being brought to Jerusalem and that's it there's no mention of Jesus like what what did Jesus do as a teenager you know who his friends did he have do you have a wife did he what kind of skills do you how what was his day-to-day living like we don't know anything about Jesus in that sense because people of that time didn't

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they just thought the important thing was his ministry because that's the culture of that age so they saw the important thing with the Prophet was his teachings so they were documenting hadith his actual biography one there wasn't a culture like that - they were there were or all transmissions like this but these were more like folk tales okay so there were a lot of stories that people would have told their children and they would have told people about the Prophet but many of these stories may not have been true they may have just been nice I mean many of them may

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have been true but like how so for example when I grew up like how when most of you listening to this who when you when when you grew up you heard stories about the Prophet from your parents from people around you they weren't academic versions they were just stories that were much transmitted people said oh you know the Prophet one day like you heard the story let's say I mean that does appear in a hadith as well but I'm just saying like the story that the lady this old lady used to always harm the Prophet and then you know the Prophet when she was ill the Prophet went to ask about her stories like this they would have heard just stories loads of stories the issue

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was why didn't somebody put them as a book now this is where it gets slightly interesting you see you've got to understand the Muslim world at that time there was a lot of rivalry going on a lot of rivalry I mean within Muslim med hubs within schools of thought Iman are being targeted by other Imams and there was a lot of this character assassination how were you the main body of Muslims you the one of the ways you did that was you identified with Hadees studies hence imam abu hanifa was targeted because he wasn't identified as

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a hadith somebody attached with that field now you see if you look at Kufa as an example Iraq there was a culture among certain Sahaba who felt that because the Prophet said in the hadith whosoever lies about me or attributes they lie to me that person might as well prepare his abode in the Hellfire so there were many Sahaba in Iraq that refused to teach to relay hadith so whenever an issue came up they would say I'd rather give an opinion because the Prophet said whosoever passed a ruling

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even if he got it wrong he still got a reward so I'm delayed nama so thoroughly allow a prominent sabe is an example who would say I refuse to give a to narrate the hadith just in case I'm getting it wrong now so this is the second layer there was a huge culture of this kind of religious consciousness kind of sprinkled with fear of saying things like I don't want to actually something to the Prophet that didn't belong to him so this is important so many people would tell things but they wouldn't so

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they would tell the ruling like if they said oh what's happening here they would say do this but they wouldn't put the prophets name to it and they wouldn't put their name to it as in penny because they didn't want that responsibility the next layer is because many of these folks stories of the prophet were permeating but they didn't have solid kind of chains they just had like we grew up just learning this about the Prophet but if I put it to paper let's say I grew up hearing all these stories about the Prophet and there were

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nice stories and many of them were true but some of them may have been exaggerated like let's say there's a story that the the became and it took its sweetness from the Prophet you see that's just a nice story I mean I know that's not true but it's a nice story that's all now there were many stories now some of them were exaggerations many of them were true but because they were just transmitted as part of folk folk narratives if let's say Imam Malik wrote them down as a book this is the biography of the Prophet the problem is because you're not going to get those

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firm chains in them you're not going to have these authenticated change you're just gonna have a general narrative that people have grown up hearing these stories of the Prophet if you put them down this makes you a target for people to say oh he's attributed to the Prophet a lie that he attributed something that doesn't belong to the Prophet so he should prepare his abode in the Hellfire and he's a kitab he's at this he's at that now what that does is it allows

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people to say he's a deviant he is falsely attributed it to the Prophet and if they do that they could completely assassinate your character your career that your hadith career you scholarly career in that stage now is it really worthy because the general folk narratives would have had stories about the Prophet anyway so children growing up would have always heard stories about the Prophet was it important to put it in a book yes I think it was important but was it to

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them worth the risk that they felt that is this really worth it people are gonna start targeting me and bi and an extension of this was also the tafseer of the Quran so many Allah ma didn't fully engage in a full concede of the Quran and I feel it was a similar thing because there weren't many chains going back they felt they might just become targets and what's the point so if I just become a target and somebody start saying oh you know this guy oh my god he's because of these hadith whosoever

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speaks of his own opinion on the word of God then let him uh prepare his himself for the hellfire this kind of culture was it was kind of very yet it was part and parcel of the atmosphere so is it worthy so I feel that these were really the key reasons that most Muslims didn't in the early generations write a biography or pen something like that or a complete of seed of the Quran until that culture just died and you see by after the two hundreds that culture is pretty much dead and Muslims then do

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start writing because the scholars the schools have kind of been established by that time so yes of that I hope it gives some explanation I know a lot of people were asking as well that why is it that no Muslims wrote a biography of the Prophet and that is true and I do wish they had written that another aspect is as well that one could argue did they even think that side of the prophets life was important I'm not so convinced that was the answer but some people might feel that's the answer that they didn't feel that that the general life of the Prophet was that important they

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felt it was only legalisms and teachings that were important it could be but I'm more inclined towards the fact that the middle thing that they felt that the Falk narratives already existed by painting them or pulling their name to it made them a target of rival assassination so it wasn't really worth it and so what do they expect to gain from this so this is why they just left it and then of course the other what some of the Islam revisionists are saying is that no Muslims just they just made everything up i I totally don't buy that but that's the other what some of these people are saying but I hope that

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gives you some explanation allows you you know give to have some kind of background of what was going on cool let's let's move on all right Imam I said I know Allen right okay mom has said in the house people doing some great and grassroot work in Gloucester all right I'll tell you what let's take some rapid round questions and then let's move to the masala segment the masala so I'm just going to if there's some rapid questions thoughts on

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socialism initial here's me trying to have like a simple let's go through some simple rapid it was like I opened my Instagram messages the I open them and it's like I'm like this is me like all drowsy and I'm like ah social media is addictive though and I'm like oh let me take what me and I open it thinking I know let's see some memes and cheer myself up and there's a

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question like why do we exist I'm like real yeah yeah take a break yard take a break that's mine could I talk on Adnan Rasheed's video on the age of Ayesha look I haven't watched this video on the age of Ayesha I will try to watch it but I can guarantee you every

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single had to do with the age of Aisha is unreliable every single happy Dava confidence AR confidence and these people who are saying this or for some reason weirdly stubborn thinking they're somehow defending Islam this is the most dumbest way that anybody could have thought that they're defending Islam this is the kind of help that Islam is like please please don't defend this is the kind of light don't

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worry I've got your back okay uh you know every time they're right to punch they knock that person out first this is the dumbest way to defend Islam to say the Prophet married a little kid disgusting this is the thing seriously but Muslims you know some Muslims are just dumb and that's the point there's nothing more to say some Muslims this all is true they just dump and they think that they're doing Islam a great honor by saying yes the the Profi you

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know he looked at a six-year-old kid and said yeah I want to marry her how dumb and stupid and disgusting and they feel that that's okay you can watch my body gay to answer that look they haven't even got one authentic manuscript or

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sign body so I would say look any just take no rule of those talks anybody saying that the Prophet married a kid is out of their brain and they seriously no they've got some serious issues and anybody saying that six-year-old is not a kid his is seriously twisted okay seriously twisted if they're gonna tell you that no no a six-year-old back then

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oh no a nine-year-old was like I was like an 18 year old gnome a nine year old was not a bloody 18 year old nine year old was a nine year old why do you think that the Prophet said they don't even have to pray so let me get this right a little kid who doesn't have to pray who doesn't have to fast doesn't have to give she is being addressed to get married and being treated as an adult just for marriage don't be stupid right have some brains about yourself you know just just have some decency that's all but anyway right these kind

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of things are just dumb honestly it's only dumb stupid people that are kind of proactively trying to push this narrative they usually are salafi of a hobby kind of background or were hobby influenced so they might not be Wahhabi there might be the open D they might be something but they influenced by that kind of a hobby had these dogmatism anyway but every single hadith on it is weak okay right let's take some rapid rounds people could you explain what happened to Jesus after he wasn't crucified where did he go what

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did he do do we know we don't actually know what happened to him there are many Muslims who believe he died a natural death on earth amongst them Imam Malik in some of the transmissions said that he believed that he just died a natural death we don't know there was an interesting book I heard somewhere about did Jesus go to the east I don't know I'm just saying it's an interesting it was a non Muslim kind of research on it but anyway I don't know what happened to him and Christians don't seem to really preserve much about that obviously their narrative is slightly different but yeah

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we don't know if a mine uses hand to do it but not release it I think I'm onto some DaVinci Code here with it if mine uses hand to do it as opposed to using elbow if mine uses hand to do it but do not releases it is a hand get stuck I'm

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sorry I would shake hands but it stuck you know but do not release it Oh climax do not even though you have the urge do you need the result he's like saying yeah yeah movie climax work your neighborhood today yeah I'm waiting for the climax the problem if man uses

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Dan Hardin right so do you need a listen well no climax this on this or not necessary [Laughter] hi the questions things that are bothering people though this this is an important question people you know in this world of Kabhi Khushi Kabhi Haan kabhi kabhi khushi

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J you know sometimes people are lonely you know they need some I need some consoling consoling so comes up nevertheless Russell Joseph is not necessary okay what Searle is not necessary if there's there's no success there is no cell you know that one what else have we got here I've missed these

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general advice on how to live your life without getting caught up in legalisms staying true to Islam people Islam is an natural theme it sadena fitrah it's a theme that had it was just about living about getting on with life about just let me teach you a psychological trick of psychology people focus on the good in life and the good will just seem to get better that's actually a psychological trick you know if you start focusing on good things the good seems to just start to just get better

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it sounds crazy but it's true you could try it you'll be like wow yeah you thought everything all of a sudden seemed so much better and yeah definitely I would say that look things like smile more often there's a psychological trick on how to be more happy if you're not feeling happy is to smile because the brain struggles to understand causation between smile and happiness so it's easy as fluid it doesn't like when you're happy you smile so the brain understands there's a positive correlation between the two so

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if you generally smile your brain assumes you're happy so it triggers the the sensations of being happy so people you just have to smile more often watch some comedy jellify bass gel-type do DMT hell yeah I gotta talk about that by the way in a different session different session I gotta go over my parapsychology course I gotta sum it up for you guys it was awesome one of the whole thing's was dedicated to psychedelics and DMT and wow this thing is just amazing and other things as well near-death experiences and a lot of phenomenal

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such people phenomenal Mohammed a run what if you're afraid to be happy Oh Dookie atma off a troubled soul what if you're afraid would it be on select I sign who somebody get this brother a drink a troubled soul is on is

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in our midst people a troubled soul heartbroken right so all right so what's there a statue of Maryam Ali Salaam in the car but this some narrations saying that it is believable it is believable another thing that our history hasn't it's there but we haven't truly explored is that they were on the number of Christians and Jews were much more than we imagined huge number of Arabs were actually Christians huge numbers does laughing break prayer if so how can I

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stop stop what stop praying at church I stopped laughing tikka tikka sometimes what I have to do is I have to kind of like you know like I have to take my nails into my you know like sometimes I've been in situations where it's a serious thing and I'm about to laugh and I thought oh you can't laugh don't laugh please don't laugh don't laugh I thought my inner voice is like what have you this is gonna go terribly behind if you laugh and I've had to kind of like just take my like my

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nail into my finger just like just to kill the emotion hum delights usually worked I've been like don't whatever you do don't laugh trust me I've been in certain situations in life where if I laughed it would have been terribly downhill but yeah so Muslim man is asking is having

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girlfriend you teasing are you trying to tease the other profile it was only a moment ago asking about being solo and over me having is hard to come for him he's hard to say don't know uh I meant to comfort him as in don't worry yeah are you trying tease him if I say the name Biggus Dickus well is that name

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don't they give away their wealth though I don't know who we're talking about right guys let's move on to this charity sorry sorry charity that's a charity to this couple celebrity couple celebrity couple people celebrity high stardom huh so those of you who haven't caught up with this saga saw people the masala time is here the multi masala so there's a couple very famous on social media Instagram I think like half million

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followers or something like that yeah Pattaya hum JSA people like us we can't even dream to have that you know huh a few little following few you know good look good look big torpor you know they they might press like as though they kind of throwing charity at me they're like cello yeah what will boost the Abu layth remember yeah yellow like jump get lost now don't ask a gate right but here

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ha around only kidding our only kid here you've got a couple that are so popular for the cringe-worthy kind of couple goals you know those kind of hashtag couple goals always acting very super in love you know like all that kind of I want to hold your hand walking to Jenna oh sorry with both lives 0:04 lock

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the legs as well right yeah I'm Jeannette me we're gonna walk in like this like you know the kind of cheesy cringy stuff that they would say now people you know the problem is that people like this stuff there's a demand for this kind of stuff jumper key demand so those of you haven't caught up that this couple apparently this couple are

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actually atheists they've not they don't really believe they in their private circles would mock Islam up the Quran I don't just mean crack jokes I mean like actually like not funny remark just like like who believes that nonsense and everything was just a business and they were a rockier couple so they used to do exorcisms ghostbusting gin busting and this whole thing so basically what what's been happening those of you that ain't up to speed on this is they were living this parallel lives with the wife

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Oh Mahalo who is a new hobby aha so in her other life where she went as zara official zara gu as a model running the model agency you know so she was apparently living the highlife beaches bikinis clubbing drinking what if I doing everything but here obviously because people don't know what she looked like generally because

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she wore a niqab and here they had this thing going on now so the issue is that they've been busted you see now I want to clarify something I wanna my my angle my thoughts on this everybody's giving an opinion yeah may not be huh come on by huh me better wait wait I'm sorry booty how it hurts me quim WITSEC unit Bush lied I'm joking

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I'm joking right so my thoughts on the matter you see first of all what what are the issues what ain't the issues for me for me but I mean people Barrowman right for me it's not the issue that they for example drank alcohol it's not the issue that that she went clubbing with these rappers or whatever she used to go clubbing or she's to wear a bikini or she used to do these things or run a modeling agency or whatever for me personally I mean for other people I'm sure it's a huge problem for me

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personally personally right these things for me are not an issue I think personally that's there that would have been just their private lives for me the issue is that these people there's a number of issues first of all these people actively proactively engaged in fake preaching now this is a serious problem you know this like constantly telling people this is all Haram this is all Haram I don't mean just

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saying it as a one-off like if somebody asked them do you believe in Islam clubbing is Haram and let's say she said okay it's Haram in Islam but she went clubbing that's not the issue for somebody like me the issue is they proactively preached this holy thing to people this televised version of this is so this is problem number one that you are putting up fake standards that you yourselves know that you can't live by

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right so you're perpetuating an ideal giving the impression that you are that ideal giving false impressions problem number one okay problem number two and it's linked to this false ideal of relationships you see relationships a lot of people are suffering with relationships a lot of people it's a human problem you know it's not just a Muslim problem non-muslims are suffering massively Muslims as well and I think honestly I think personally feminism has made things immensely worse but that's a different discussion and I'm not I don't mean by that women's rights I stand up for women's rights but I think this

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sometimes a man-hating attitude has kind of especially in the non-muslim culture but anyway I don't want to get into that but the point is that relationships people are suffering massively now these people present this fake life of that we are the ideal couple you know we're gonna are we're gonna sing nice Arabic things to each other oh we can always walk like lovey dovey we love each other two bids we you know masha'Allah Allah subhanAllah yeah happy but he you know like I didn't you just do this why do you do that

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yeah so G you know all this kind of stuff super sweet kind of stuff many young people set that as their targets the problem is this is unattainable like that kind of everyday living it's even even these people can't live like that I mean now in all these messages where he's been beating the hell out of her she says he almost killed me where the other ones saying she tried to commit suicide on several occasions where all these kind of things now I'm not you know that's a different discussion all of that that's been going on but my point is that it's not real

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even these people can't live up to it why are you setting so many relationships suffered by watching these people think oh because you see if you just watch a celebrity on TV you would think oh they might be doing it for the camera and you've got some common sense about yourself now when the person says in the name of Allah then you think now maybe you know he wouldn't say the name of Allah unless he was being genuine now when it's a facade and it's fake and even they can't live up to it and then you feel miserable so a lot of young people watching this are feeling

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miserable thinking that our lives you know that's how our that's how I want to be little do they know that their lives are an absolute mess deception defrauding people robbing people you know the kind of things they were involved in even the sexual stuff and that I mean if it's just them doing that that's all of this is their personal lives but because they're setting false standards for people it's making other people suffer and I am on many of the scholars are on the back end that we are then receiving people coming to us

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telling us oh I'm having doubts in Islam or I'm having doubts in this all my relationship suffering my this miser and when you try to tell people look but this is just the real world this is they think no but them look at those look at that masha'Allah beautiful couple that's the real world you and you think coach nahi survivor salsa it is nothing except perpetual deception their car has in big eco any hired creeps that we have seen this world up

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and close that we've seen it from Sonia it is nothing but perpetual deception that these people that you know that are being start staging themselves this is this the next layer of problem then the problems get worse they've then used this platform to boost the rakia exorcism business now the rakia from what I hear they've been charging let's say 300 pound an hour or something a session that we get rid of

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people's ghosts a cha maybe between cha cha booth I'm sure I've got a few ghosts and demons you know they get we get rid of people's demons pay us money my cha cha and you know the videos that they make a lot of these videos have been exposed so some woman in niqab is that was her Oksana that was on my up the lows real name is Roxana right that was

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her and now they've spotted her because I'm old like you know they thought she's got this kind of mark on her finger and they've shown it on the other photos and and this is them faking this to people you know oh he's taking the chin out look how powerful he is and then people are coming to him for further and to her the only non you know this and I want to say something you know these people saying oh she's a woman she's been victimized he did black magic on a black magic they're all in on it

1:34:13

get the nominal yeah me you know how do you think this is do you think we're totally stupid or something they're all in on it she's making the fake videos with him she's pretending she's bringing in the crowds she's and then the worst part they're doing charity appeals Lord charity appeals yeah where they've raised three hundred thousand pounds on one occasion three hundred thousand pounds donated to a personal bank account personal bank account that to of who of some guy that

1:34:52

him and hasanat were done on some terrorism charge for you know like so some personal bank account who apparently that guy saying oh he's other wife sister saris to manage that private account I don't know about he right but the point is that look these this is people's money you know you people are donating thinking they're sending money to rural India to help the Muslims little do they know the bloody funding modeling agency and funding a God knows you know maybe it whatever is half a million pound worth apartment in Canary Wharf or whatever is or a million pound

1:35:30

this is what they're funding Sharon qiji me their personal lives are not an issue like to me if they just you know drank alcohol even if they didn't believe in Allah because I heard that they were atheists a few years ago you know this I already my Intel already told me that but to me look if a person is an atheist it's his choice or her choice I believe there's no compulsion in Islam and if they want to talk to me they've got questions I will not speak to anyone

1:36:09

I've got no issues I mean I can't say I'll answer the questions but I can try but I don't judge people if they have doubts in the face or if they've left the faith or if they you know they drink alcohol or they do all these whatever things it doesn't you know I'm not the kind of person to judge people my issue is the things the facade the fake standards the preaching the fake preaching making perpetuating this narrative of Islam that even you don't believe in that setting up denotes perpetuating this culture of superstition and jinn possessions which even you don't believe in youth you know it's fake

1:36:49

you're just acting for God's sake no tankier it she's possessed in the photos and and they read a live killing it killing it you know and then they've got all this fancy stuff going on and in all and then taking hundreds of thousands of pounds from people for Muslim charity and spending spending it on lavish holidays and living the life la la now hahaha she is on the run you know

1:37:27

like you know I ramble once you got that slow motion he's like you know these are wise as a guru one said my school odd me if not this zindagi Madore the fiber died somebody only runs this fast in life on two occasions yeah Olympic ki wrestle yeah police caucus for well it's either

1:38:04

the Olympics or is one dirty you know police case you know so this one I don't think has a math is preparing for Olympics police got here say many John police car keys so this is going on if things weren't bad enough whilst this strategy was they were getting out of this mess they dictated they did what we call in Pakistani is still active

1:38:43

and dingy shot they gave a dinky shot what musty mink majority like a problem you know like a good inky lot like a donkey kick I just took out musty make they brought him into the menage tois the threesomes which are a musty mink he which are eyes

1:39:23

you know suffering the consequences of what's going on and they were turned upside down huh Tsubaki she sham kombucha team Terry how make pull - Ivanka battles Datak hi that's these people the world has been turned upside down within you know within seconds so that that's this is the problem and I feel that there's a lot of questions that do need to be answered especially these questions

1:40:02

about the the charity stuff about all this kind of stuff living and then obviously people are gonna go wow oh God but you know to be fair I a lot of people were hating on them music because Muslims once they get emotional you know just bah bah no emotion so they just unleash on everything so one of the things that they were unleashing on why did he have two wives

1:40:36

not one were to you know they double and that to the text messages mentioning the the triangular hashtag menage-a-trois the midnight liaisons between the airy triangle coincide isosceles is it an isosceles is it an what kind of driving although the new revelations seem to be showing it's probably like a hexagon or something so a lot of people were hating on them for

1:41:12

this triangular love that I said for that I defended them you know you gotta confuse you know in the enemy you gotta confuse him so I said no all these people on this let it be yeah Ishq Ishq a mob but but let them love ya if they want to love in a triangle in a crying girl if they wanted love in a in a square in a pentagon in hexagon yeah

1:41:51

it's love low is low low is long people low is low huh what what did the poem say what did the poet say he said Kafka huh he's gonna bite it he said Calcutta is converted in a lillahi wa is that what Stein you fallen in love in a lie so this is ich ich can be of any shapes all shapes and sizes triangular no problem you know this one

1:42:30

this on the heart heart can accommodate you know so that one I say look don't hate on them for for that so you know many young especially young women young Muslim women off to fiery on on social media proper slut-shaming with them oh my god you could share your husband

1:42:56

breathing fire so my point was guys you know we need to at times we need to help them you know it's like you got somebody and you're like [Laughter] [Music] like maybe not on this point

1:43:26

right so the point is that on this we had to I'd if I said that look the polygamy angle is their personal choice we shouldn't be hating on them for polygamy it doesn't mean that you have to do polygamy it doesn't mean people have to do believe me but look to be fair Islam allows if people want to do it they don't have to do it if they want to do it that's their choice that's it people are gonna say you are gonna say that you're a man Oh God somebody's gotta speak for the voiceless

1:44:02

men of this day now I'm joking I'm joking look no but on a serious note on a serious note I feel that you know many young Muslims we openly defend the rights of of other people's love gay love they say look it's so what if they if they if they're consenting what's your problem lesbian love lesbian love I mean all the Muslim men don't object to any way that like Muslim men are just you know all men are just pretending even you know the homophobes they just pretending to

1:44:40

hate the lesbian one they just like yeah it wasn't that what somebody said didn't somebody say that who was it that got there was some meme about him saying I'm not homophobic I love watching lesbians or something so so look people young Muslims they're all they defend all kinds of love they say no knife it's consenting no no but when

1:45:19

it comes to the most anything associated with Islam like polygamy they say that all this must be forced on the woman it must be oppressive it must be like look and I say don't judge you know look if people are happy it's their life it's their choice it's on so I'm sure you've all read some of those text messages by now that are on social media oh yeah but I gotta say a proper what we call

1:45:58

you know a bent bent shot dingy shot that's in the East Allah of the aloo Pakistan right dinky shot they did a bad shot once exiting and that was just just for no reason just struck multi-link so they just released some text message that's his apparently but you know this this game of love is a very dangerous one but you know legends before you have drowned great legends have drowned in

1:46:37

this ocean of love what the hell - hey this just a graveyard of leaders warriors pioneers people of great potential all this lying dead here at the hands slain by love Allah Allah so anyway let's focus focus focus focus so people so that's what's been going on this has been completely it's plagued the social media scene this Omar

1:47:14

Abdullah and hasanat Abdullah kind of thing and I have to say that you know this my issues are with this fake preaching because this is the thing I'm telling you imagine islam is a hierarchy imagine islam is a hierarchy and you've got the huge people at the top most of these people what they preach the narrative they preach I'm not saying all of it but a huge part of it they don't believe in it and the people on the bottom the

1:47:50

ground floor you're on the ground half of them or most of them don't believe in either but they think we ought to believe in it because those people are saying we ought to believe in it so it's one of these things that people believe that other people believe in it it's the paradox nobody's actually believing in a lot of these things they just believe that other people believe in these things so this is why and then you've got like let's say middle management or management and in middle management and then if you got like team leaders I think at that level some people probably do believe in it like a lot of this

1:48:28

stuff those kind of low-level people and then they the public I don't think most of them even think in that much detail about the finites of things they're being told to believe in but then they just feel guilty that they're not good Muslims and they don't do it and then is it why is my issue with this you know somebody might say yeah move TG up cuca ik/fk kahiko ducrai what's your problem my problem is then the people on the ground these people then feel that they can't believe in this stuff and then

1:49:07

they give up on faith and then these are the kind of people that I'm dealing with so this is the problem if people started to act just more real just more genuine in stuff you know it would reduce a huge amount of the trauma on the ground because your common person can't believe in stuff your common person listens to this Islamic stuff just to talk you know when they're having a guilt trip just to feel like oh yeah that's what I ought to be like and even the person they're listening to

1:49:46

isn't like her son build Sun oh but it's a it's a dog-eat-dog world people dog-eat-dog and I've got to say the internet is ruthless I was saying earlier on that the Internet is like people of the medieval age you know when the public like in the 15th century 14th century you know you get them saying they're the public executions and they'd be like throwing rotten our own or tomatoes or things and say yeah this is

1:50:26

what everybody is like on the Internet they're just ruthless I see a Stan las casas I see estan las Casas kirino's this is the problem this is the problem you know on this fake preaching move this is as they would say Oh God can we go you know this is playing with fire people it's muy muy peligroso very dangerous and this is the problem that

1:51:04

we I'm living that kind of a double life especially when you don't believe in something and then using religion just to rip people off making fake exorcisms this one not nice so our people I hope you've hope that's brought you up to speed I just want to share my thoughts I'm not saying that you know I'm and I've made something very clear I've never preached to be pious and holy

1:51:42

and I'm not saying I'm definitely not saying I am but what I am saying is you don't need to pretend to be pious I think it's okay to just be human just be yourself it will take away from some of that glory but it will make the beam more workable for the common person you see so and this is why my issue was never is not with their personal lives or people personally doing stuff for them you know whether it's going to be these sex parties or these clubbing or these

1:52:21

whatever people are up to these were not you know if it was behind closed doors it was them my issue was always that the sanctimonious behavior the pretending that you're so holy that you know Papa let alone do I don't even have these thoughts don't even occur to me I have angels protecting me from sin you know this kind of thing disheartens people on the ground because the regular person then thinks all that is the ideal

1:53:00

so yeah such a low people that's I thought these were some thoughts why not share them with you well with that I leave you bid you a very good night take very good care of yourselves people wherever you are stay blessed over now assalamu aleikum what I've met Ally Tyler or but I cut

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  author = {Mufti Abu Layth},
  title = {{Monday Nights with Mufti Abu Layth: Session 124}},
  year = {2019},
  month = {6},
  date = {2019-06-24},
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  url = {https://muftiabulayth.org/r/ce3w75tuh_y/},
  organization = {Mufti Abu Layth Archive},
  urldate = {2026-11-01},
  note = {Auto-transcribed, may contain errors}
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