Ty Mitchell 'Akh-tive' | Boxing, Belief & Boundaries | MindTrap with Mufti #18

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Muslims people we have ty Mitchell aka active right in the house I'm just bringing him in right now oh cool Salah [Music] I'm just going to double check just before we start that the sound is coming through fine I'm gonna check on both so people YouTube Facebook I'm just gonna bring up the stats to make sure the

audio is right people saying wa salaam aleikum from the netherlands you doing it you're doing it people right so I take it you guys can all hear us find right so shukran shukran people and we've got those of you who are not familiar with with active ty Mitchell and we have a professional boxer somebody from the Midlands born and raised converted to Islam still very

young just in his late 20s 29 I believes that correct yeah 29 yet having gone through an incredible a whole plethora of experience in life tie in your words for people who are may not be so familiar with your background you and of you know your angle where you come from a bit about yourself in your words nothing too exciting really honestly I formed mixed heritage my mum's white English my dad's Jamaican

and yeah just grew up in dub which is in the Midlands not far from Birmingham is East Midlands yeah just had a normal life converted Islam I think in two thousand thirteen or fourteen a box or my life's I've always been the unboxing either I've been boxing since I was seven years ago at 7 years of age so yeah that's a brief description really sure and boxing I mean this is something you've been involved in out of professional professional capacities there's something I if there's something you've kind of picked up because of your father being a kind of professional boxer or is

it something independently you've had as a passion was a bit of both or what what is this yeah I think it's definitely a bit of both I think asking to do tend to take a lot of talents of their parents or their their doctors a lot of times you see their child being a doctor or for boilers and musicians it kind of a lot of time that offspring to do tend to follow another footstep probably just through genes and stuff I was never forced into boxing though so my father was a boxer and I'm sorry all ways around it from ever since I was born but then he started off his own boxing gym after he'd retired then I was about 7 years of age as I was always in an at the gym but I always look doing box

since I was always in the gym and I just kept doing it since 7 years of age really they're not dynamic to 811 and do some amateur fights since since 11 all right well that's been quite I'll start I started I started competing and I'll start trading 107 I start competing seven I mean I don't know if you have memories from back then but is that is that something because when we think now like what people will say you know what what seven year old this is too stressful for seven year olds this is too you know all this kind of pressure all this load of trying to do stuff I don't know I mean what if you if you started training at that age

do you have memories of that was it yeah so it's completely returning to our train now it was just like a group class for kids so what they do is it's a it wasn't there was no head sparring or nothing like that there was no dieting there was no running long distances he would just literally go there you hit their mitts you'd teach how to stand and throw punches and he was just like teach how to skip so it was kind of like a kid's youth class more than anything is a kid because there's at most seven yards if you go there and it's regimented and regime and do this and and this as hard as it is as your professional you're not gonna you're gonna be this just interested really soon so it was just more of a kids class and obviously the older you get the more

serious to eat it they just kind of you just grow into a package any mmm and right and this conversion to Islam I mean is this something that has have you always had these questions of faith or is it something that just happen in later years or just circumstantial due to the circumstances circumstan show me what yeah I think inherently I've always believed in God just I think I was just born with an inherent feeling I'm from a Christian family but none of them

practice and I've got maybe two in my family that practice but as a whole none of my family practices their Christian by name but identity practice but the I think I think it's right to say 90% of my family believe in God but they just really not practicing on anything you just kind of believe in God I'm not sure if they believe in Christianity or not no really have that full conversation with him but me personally I I always believed in God but then others fought well would I was kind of just like of the opinion that what most people think I guess all religions just mated for power and separate deeper than you're

brainwashed in this in there I was kind of felt like my Avenue was this I kind of just felt like if you're a good person and you do good things you'll go to heaven if you but-first and do bad things to go tell us kind of there's like black and white with it then yeah then I start to have some sort of more serious questions what is right and wrong what's good and bad who decides what's good and bad because me in my quarter where I'm from I could do an act and so on could say it so good and then someone could do another act for example I don't know and feed it some people say if you school if you go and steal some money off someone ask it is fall we should have left it around

whereas other people say it's completely wrong but it just depends on where you go up on what environment you probably some people think violence is dance and service or certain situations some people are completely opposed to it so I decided in what's why I'm wrong then do you decide what's right a monk so God must have sent down a book to let us know what's right and wrong that's kind of the passage I went through and then I started reading Bible looked into a feud a few kind of difference religions Buddhism but then the only one that I could have found a forward with science I think the thing is with the cronut really brought me closer tactical my eyes fixed everything I never fought

being was in my sister she come converted probably seven years before I did and I used to even though I was like happy black world really except in front of boy steady morality and you just gonna be no terrorist system now I know I think and I'd never be able but then and it was funny because when I convert on my family back was all sticky give me sister every hidden you some humble fire but me personally I was the last person I thought would be a Muslim even though I was interested in it from young obviously I think I was more interested in next try and prove it wrong okay

that's you know I've heard a few people say that I remember there's an imam I'm looking to have him on here as well chef Adam quell week and I remember having this discussion with him once and he said that he's come across the kind of converts he's come across a substantial amount of them have been people who have looked into Islam but almost to prove it wrong from that ILO so okay yeah cuz like cuz I had no real close friends I'm with you but I've know people that was me and to be fair they could have definitely explained it to me a lot better than what they did because it was

asking the question and they done sir it but he wasn't explaining it properly to the point wait like he was finally a valid answer that made me feel satisfied you know I mean something yeah but that doesn't make sense because of this and that doesn't make sense because of that whereas if I'd have been taught and I had someone to explain to me properly I'm out I've had a different viewpoint but yeah I was always against it because I was the person I wanted to go out onto Jing find it to be around girls I didn't want to be this I want to tell you that I think you know these rules all the Homer's rules all I kept thinking is Luis Conte this copy this copy that lace is trying to I say yeah well you didn't owe me this like just push it to the side hmm but when I what like I say when I looked into it more and more and see what if

what was what was writing in it would like I said like I've said it's the scientific facts that you can't deny things that science I've only science has only just proven recently I was in the chrome 14 1500 years ago you someone has to give me an answer where that come from because I understand that there is in certain other boxes things that have been foretold but there's also a lot of but there's a lot of falsehood in a lot of areas in their ways in the crannies not one so how can somebody who say because a lot of people try to say oh okay then what if it started from other scriptures well how would this person that just did all the good bits that was true but about all the bad bits that was wrong do you know I mean it's just

probably the problem in probabilities is it's impossible all right you know you said earlier on about that you were you believed in God but it was not so much you never really thought about organized religion so you grew up in a society where you kind of felt look there is a God there is a creator but you know I'm not so sure about the church per se your institutions or religion do you feel that is a the kind of norm is that the kind of normal monk young people or do they do you find them not believing in God altogether yeah I find a not believe it I find it not

believing as a whole yeah I feel like it just I feel like he's a whole and I feel like I say I say 64 I'd say 60% say that they're just anybody all the 40% say that it could be a god or the ambiguous they don't know it could be we don't know I think that's the most general conceptual consensus idea that they don't know in it are what I don't know and you can't prove it to me because unless you show me God and then their time to speak up something like I'll know for myself because if someone is it doesn't want to listen to the truth Klaus I was in the same situation more so I'll have an answer for everything

okay then cool this don't make sense and if it and and if it's not answered in a way that I don't want answer how does dismiss it this is what a lot of people do to me but I have a lot of patience with it cuz I was the same person myself do you know I mean so he doesn't I understand where they're coming from because I was the same I mean what would you out of curiosity since you've kind of maybe you still got a lot of friends that all of your friends probably you're still what is this thing in this modern society the thing that you know makes people say well you know I don't really believe in God at all what do you think

kind of shifts it that way is it just the fact that is it just the fact oh you can't prove it or do you think always think you stir society I think you just get a people now now you just run in person from down the road there's no God and people are so easily influenced by what you say I'm not you I don't listen to words I this for example if I hear someone say something I will accept or disregard it if I'm interested in it then I'll go and look it up I'm not going to take your answer for every way at the same time as I will dismiss you answer where people are very the reason thing on Facebook you take it is fact you know I mean and it's just like if someone says some foods I think in our

society now God's not talking it's kind of its kind of embarrassing to be enough people to have like even English Christian the colon and Bible brushes and you form a Christian you meant to be in a Christian country and it's not cool now so I think it's just a society it's not cool to believe in Christ so I think people have never thought that deeply about it and it just kind of are a lot of people is not really interested just go about their life and I just bothered by his making as much money as it kind of never a good time where they can that's what I didn't now that you've become Muslim have you found more people have approached you about religion or not really or has this

hurdle or has it become a boost boosted your powerful it's no so I'm very vocal and part of my religion so it's but if I will put something out a lot especially on Facebook they will you like the people that always have something to say what a later [ __ ] which is going to happen but a lot of people also say like I did a and Instagram video basically just explaining what made me be Muslim the process I went through except check texture and I put it off because a lot

of people was asking me what made me revert and it was kind of I can just put it in a text so it was kind of like an eight-minute video and it had a really good response so many people was messaging me like you know what I've never ever thought of the things you were saying and he's made me look into it so it as I hold meat to me personally it's a very good impact and it's ask people us a lot of questions and even people that might not groove me they will respect my views in the way that I am which is good oh nice and it's a nice thing but you don't feel it's become a barrier for you in any sense for me it's helped me if anything it's made my life better I'm a far better person other never

would have be because I feel like we all have a moral compass but then these are certain things there's a lot of things where I think I would do differently if I didn't believe in God I definitely would have made not I definitely would have made more by decisions if I did if I wasn't got I mean and I'm not perfect I make I do do a lot there's a lot of things that we've hold me whereas if I don't believe in God room well what is read it to me there's no right and wrong without God is just your opinion we have our own moral compass but everybody's moral compass it's different you know me but I feel like I'm a far better person since being wasn't so it's not hinder them you know you see when I see you I

see somebody young who's obviously a professional you're confident but I see you also very confident about religion but we're in a very natural way like there's nothing so even though you've said look you are very loud and proud about your faith like and you've got the name active from the Arabic term half-brother and very confident to say that in public but you're not you know you haven't changed your dress code to something like wearing a soul or you know you haven't kind of grown a very

long beard or you haven't if you have people kind of thrown this up at you as you know how can you not do this on your

head why you ya know so okay so I'm gonna take you through the process of and was I reburied in 2014 but then I didn't have no Muslim friends I'd assisted I was Muslim for seniors far away so I was just me on my own I was there so my Imam was going to put on I wasn't practicing I was practicing I wasn't practicing but I'm a very All or Nothing person so it was kind of hard for people to take me serious because I though I just am what I am I don't try and be fake janar me so you might see me not practicing and doing something I shouldn't be one day but then I might be praying they seem you know my son next day but I've always come back no matter

what I've never not believed in what I believe what my man's been up and down because the Islam I knew he didn't it was just like he was just a lot of rules a lot of rules I know it's pretty five times a day I knew I couldn't do this he allowed me this that knew then it was um it was just a very regimented think any and I didn't I wasn't enjoying its long so I kind of did look like a hypocrite and I kind of look like a people it's my family especially did Blair well you know the problem was the many I feel do you feel that is hypocrisy well I think from that I think until you understand what Islam really means yeah it would look like hip-hop casita

because in its in in in in outsider's point of view which is exactly what I know exactly what it's like to be because I've been there if you see you could see a Muslim man it could be if this Muslim I could pray five times a day he could give zakat could do this he could do that but and if you see a club you automatically disregard in as an almost like you know even a fight it's just one of them for anyone's where you could get someone I don't see him in a club but you don't pray they don't give zakat but I've got a big bill and worth oh I mean you'll automatically think he's a practicing Muslim so from the outsider's point of view I'm saying is what humours were going to see in

stereotypes oh yeah yeah so it's just so from their point of view is anybody that's not hundred percent Ondine 24/7 they're just like you know I mean but then like I told like I've said before and I think it before we was recorded yeah hide out sauce so for years I was looking down in my in mind I was just kind of just going on this journey alone because I didn't have many Muslims and he just didn't a distinct connect with that I wasn't really enjoying it then I'd my son loves calyx Sadiq and I come across him on Instagram I split you free stuff and my son loves his music yes ya Habibi oh it's misplaced I've come

across his Instagram the spy Channel and well it's a dick is awesome by the way brother mine so then I've literally I had clicked follow follow him and then it followed me back and I some one way or another vendor doc speaking I think a few weeks later or a few days later and then we then direct me not he wasn't in the area so me and him with met up and we just got on stay away and it was like you he was saying things to me away to what where I was thinking I didn't know or the Muslims like me existed I think you where this gives a come from like these are the people like me like it's like it's like I'm like it's like Tarzan

go and find in the village one of them kind of things so we spoke we're really really gone were disconnected straight away now from here I met Mamadou I met his brother Omar are connected with Mustafa Briggs a lot of the Baraka boys and a lot of people through him I know through that they expose me to a completely different Islam I'd never I'd never knew no no he's no more dude kind of yeah yeah so what initially I was thinking is to chill this is not the Islam I know even though it sounds good and I like it so they were saying things to me and I wasn't I wasn't I wasn't disregarding it

while I was like this didn't seem right to me what a tease my life so I've gone back of research I checked every weekend yeah what I've been doing all this time so check this a check that the other thing gun and I'm thinking all right so now I need to take a step back we will learn open my mind of research and learn what the true Islam is and since then I've learned more in the past six months than I learned in the past four or five years and I Bellucci learned so much and it's been the best time of my life Florida and I'm so blessed I literally I think you've probably a few days before me and Kelly connected I was praying too

I was making to her and was playing house make you do I like just helped me stay on the right path like I'm finding it hard I don't really know nobody I used to go to the mosque of tiny awkward I didn't like yeah I didn't really know I thought I could it fit and everyone was there any kind of thing and then literally couple months later all these I've met all these good good brothers man and it's all good clean heart it's good enough it is so I don't want to know I find sometimes and I was saying this and I know I mentioned it to use well and are saying it previously to amanda drop on a guest on the show as well that's sometimes some people when they come from such a kind of rough background or

something they feel that they need a lot of rules and like a regime like something so regimental for it to work but I find that the problem with things like that this this is from my perspective is if there's not much pressure like everything is about rules everything is about what happens is it snaps this is what I find that it go for a certain wild this momentum and then after a while you know they completely disappear and you see what it

is is Chris is so close it's so intense and so many rules and so when you're it's only gonna be a matter of time before you start disconnecting from it yeah then we'll nurse can I do from a effect yeah yeah I mean you just like what it's like it's like I can't be Muslim is too hard I keep trying I keep folding ah and then you just don't want to do it oh well if you just like that Islam um I'm becoming familiar with now it's just a natural you're a human being your normal person you believe in our line is messenger so though we lose so and live your life you know he does live your life the same things we know we can't do but but trying to abstain from

them if you fall into the mischief repent and keep it moving do you know I mean like you you're a human being my I thought I've said you know I've always said that Islam is something that's meant to complement your lifestyle it's meant to complement your life not something that's meant that impedes it that makes it you know more of a struggle than it is because life can already have so many challenges and your faith shouldn't really be a challenge it should be something to assist you along the way in this journey in light with what you're saying as well there's a hadith it's actually more Hardy that in the hadith II that this Deen may you shot the have the theme added that

nobody will be so regimental II strict or struggle with not struggle as in struggle with it but will struggle against tears in trying to hold on to it with such a regimental attitude in Halawa except the Dean will kind of just overcome him and he will snap and so the Prophet said that take from this theme whatever you're capable of taking

sometimes some people they don't like when I used to teach that look in the hadith EMU so that this theme is one these people felt that you know all that's making things too easy you just some people yeah some people like that regimented thing and it's like you making it and a lot of people i Eterna you turn a company you nasty turn a you turn the lift he desires but not everybody's the same and God knows not that everybody's the same we never made as the same obviously the sir we have to follow the pillars of Islam not as a normal common census but everybody is not the same so they're not gonna have the same view on life that you are and I think the problem is a lot of people

like you said try and take on too much that they can't do like not everybody was built to be Hafiz tsunami not everyone's gonna memorize the Quran God never made us with that ability do what you can do and do you know I mean just you can only do what you can do and I'm some kind of skills you know people are cut out for their own field yeah I will say literally just in a group chat live the day with a boy I was like it's Mike how much talent is in this group and we're all completely different so you've got music artists you've got seniors you've got I'm a buck so you've got Paris you've got people that study Islam and every you know I mean and I were all

completely different people but we don't but we all kind of stay in our lane and we don't I'm be something we're not we are who we are you know I mean I think that's a good thing mind just be real to be here you are mine because any one of you that's your power needs to be that message needs to be heard do you feel that now being a Muslim being well times is more my friend so meaning my really close

friends but we do work together as an when but I'm a I'm a southpaw so a lot of people would laugh I used to spar with him yeah so what they'll do is they'll if because we're quite rare in boxing no minute as we used to be what we're kind of not the norm said they would employ me for that comes when they fight no southport well I'm still in contact with the Mercedes I'm Unicode Sabbath a few the fires I do spy but a lot of them are mostly my personal friends some of them I just I just used for we're just business associates we say hello stuff

we get on but some of them actually my personal friends which is good but do you feel now that being in this position being Muslim do you feel I don't know this doesn't have to be by the way I'm just asking do you feel more of a sense of kind of responsibility maybe towards here I don't like a community sense or towards people I don't know do you do you not I mean yeah I know I do and I worry that I'm worrying and just it's like because I'm very I'm just very real

so I have faults and I am what I am NOT a absolutely on Dean hundred-percent you know I mean I'm just like a human being I feel like you can pick force out of anyone if you want but naturally especially when boxer starts back up after this Korona stuff and I start to hit the big leagues and I'm on the TV and so naturally I'm gonna be in a public eye and then I have a extra responsibility to act accordingly and I do and I think and I think that's gonna be a good thing for me because it will make me think right the more holes etiquette more but that's how you or more bear just be a better nicer person

that if I'm gonna be nice be extra nice so people because there's a lot of negativity against Muslims as like everybody or no so I can't just be nice have to be extra nice if I do something do it better do it doubled you know I mean even though that's the kinda nice things anyway but he definitely just feel like they walk there will be people looking looking and I don't want them to see me in an in a negative light yeah I mean I think and I think I should have made it a long time ago but it's been certain circumstances that stop me from making it but I think our last time is perfect and I think before I was never ready to be put in that position

to handle that position because I didn't know the properties some I didn't know myself I just knew that as a Muslim of leading the current I didn't really know enough about South Africa last time was perfect and he showed me more that I wasn't ready yet let me psychologically disturbing if I'd have been pointing at the situation I don't think I'd have handled it the best way I could have where's now I think I'm growing growing I think when Allah insha Allah puts me in that position I be able down at that correct weight I mean that's

somebody said about my phone buzzing I have put it on silent I think that might be my earphones actually right you know in we're hearing a lot recently with things like and I mentioned this to you previously things like knife crime on the rise amongst young people this seems to be a rise in things like in Crow and inter-gang Wars and and all this kind of stuff I mean I have said as well I've discussed on some shows is it that we're just because there's more social media with more aware of it or is he actually on the rise is a question but I mean the

fact that it is there we're hearing a lot about it stabbings things like this going on just in Ramadan a few cases we've heard recently I mean you're very involved with with the youths I mean people as well I mean I mean do you what's your thoughts on all of these obviously I mean I know the thing is horrific but as a is can things get better is there direction for young people do you think something could help the situation not really all I think I think is I think there's a very I think there's a lot of dimensions to it I

think a very nice car really frustrates me because I'm not from that life so okay I've been around so I grew up I was looking um deal I grew up in a nice country area a nice place where the same time is I've also been around a ghetto and ran and kids and where the boxing gym was was in a rough area outfit I'm all these people that a bit I've been around the place people are stubborn each other and I know them and my friends and easie stuffing their gangs and this I've never been involved in a going but I know the people in the games and my friends from any side glad they've affiliate with none of that but so angers me something gone of a straightener why Stephanie to rob that someone songs you know I mean

that someone's this I need an e but at the same time is that's me looking it from my perspective I've also got to look if on the fact is they don't know nothing better they have grown up they'd go outside the growing estate and they've not really got no ambition to be nothing apart from the next drug dealer whose kingpin that's their only ambition they see this do you think that it has gone it has increased or is it just I'm not sure I'm not sure yeah I thought I think I think I think we are definitely a lot more worried now because of media social media so things get recorded stay away so I got them things of all on phones people getting stuff this and that was years ago I would never have

happened so I think we're definitely more already love it as it to it be in any worse I'm not sure I don't know the stats but it's definitely bad can it change anything continues by its eighty you can't be easy I think there's a lot of people that wanted to change and there's a lot of people that do good charity work and things to make it change but I think it's gonna take its gonna be a process I think that I think that it's cuz it's all bad and if you've got to think give me a kid that 16 he and you're not gonna go and pay you're not gonna go all that interesting about is being rich I'm making money you're not gonna you telling them to get a job does not satisfy their desires one bit they don't want to go and get a

nine-to-five they want Mercedes they want rings they won't go change watches girls so you unless you're going to only give them five hundred grand or into grand or something they're not going to listen to you so it's gonna it's gonna be hard to get to them when you've been when they're when they're a miss is that you know I mean I'm gonna skills are so they're gonna get it and you're not gonna and it's not like these charity forms and organizations and you things they're going to give him any money thousands of pounds so we're going to chanted him there's no good listening to him what about things like boxing I mean not just the there's an element of obviously as a sport as a comedian but there's an element of discipline

yeah so the thing is with boxing boxing saved my life and it saved a lot of people's lives there's a lot of people that that boxing has helped immensely without a box and I think I could have gone down a really really bad road miss give me a lot of structure and discipline for sure with other people is you can't make someone come to the gym so unless they it can only help people that want help so if people want help is there's a lot of sports there's a lot of schemes and a lot of ideas that people can help but you've got to think is now these youths don't want help you're not interested not they're not interested in coming to the boxing gym the only time is when they see you doing well they will then some

people will message me and then bring me and say come to the gym and I always sign encouraging especially the youth because you to when when they're under when they like kids when they're like seven eight I think he's very an impression of what age that's when you should push them to the gym or to get them into something I'm showing people that's why I need to making in boxing shows look there's a ways arm over kids from where we're from war from Darby and I've gonna meet it you know I mean so in salami and then I can say to them look it's not hard I've done it you can come and do it and then it will make them want to do it so but when they're 16 17 18 they're not interested it's calling the heart to tell them I'll come to the gym I'm gonna box well they do around and they're tired anyway not interested do I mean didn't want to build nothing

there they've not had it they don't want to work for nothing when they can just go out so good to get it straight away so setting discipline really from a young age you know what's interesting is that even when kind of trying to inculcate these habits it says that teach them from a young age between 7 to 10 you know and you know you should even stop getting more strict by the age of 10 yeah because I think seven seven year old enough to know what's going on but

you're still a kid you still pure unison and you're not really be an X because you're not really going to be exposed to well most people you're just a kid you're not gonna be exposed they're not gonna be honest I tell you though in the [ __ ] that you know so I think that's an age weighted really that's the age I started I think you just made where you start to learn to love things you know I mean so I think it is good for discipline I think there's many things I could be football it could be basketball it could be poetry could be rapping it could be C it could be anything that you think helps you in your life then do it you know I mean do you think that religion the lack of religion is playing a role or not really or what are your thoughts on this

yeah I think I think if you don't if you don't if if you don't know God and you don't believing that and what you scared up most of these people most to be fair most of these people that I know that they're fully down and ready to get cracking outside but they were very respectful to the mothers but the mothers can only do so much they soon as you get out the door they're another person so they're not bothered about they're not interested in God they're not even did anyone really listen to all the mom says they're going out there quite other people's kids if I have a point of own life I guess you know me so it's it's if you don't if you know they don't know good to be scared of so I think if you know God and you believe in

in this cool thing i think i think that's one good thing about the Baraka boys is they're very relevant in not--there's normal people and it's made religion cool again if goat is cool to be religious it's cool to be you know I mean it's not something I hear you're just a little extremist or you just know Bible bash like we're just normal people would get on for life or a little swag around they'll bang on we're just normal people so I think a lot more if a lot more peaceful enjoying in it because it's almost kind of embarrassing to be religious yeah of course I've

faced it because remember a lot of my friends are not religious so when they're so when I'm like on Dean and stuff and I'm not trying to really keep my designs narrow and stuff they find me boring because they want me to go and do all the things that they're doing but so I it so instantly becomes uncool because religious is a no matter what religion is you can have parameters so you can still have a good life a living life but there's certain things that you can't do so anything that people that people don't want to do what they can't do anymore they were to be what I really want anyone and if he can't mean it's uncool tsunami actually but I find that we're in a day mage we're especially in the western

hemisphere right we're in a day and age where if even to say look I believe in God he's seen as kind of backwards and like mmm a nice and it's crazy why because you're the Christian country yeah it's mud and oh I'm if you this is this this is what flabbergast smear in a Christian country if you see certain things that the Bible believes in you can get luck you can get prosecutor it says this in the Bible you were meant to be in a Christian cruse here and nobody believes that the Bible

has no called no way in this country whatsoever none so which is you know which is what I liked about Jordan Peterson is that he was somebody that brought back this thing at least mainstream from a Western perspective that look it's okay to believe in God you know it's not yeah you could still be intelligent you can still be sophisticated you can be normal but you still believe in God yeah I think to be fair I think there's I think music

artists and sports me especially footballers and khabib I've made cool so it is a lot there's a lot of religious people whether it's Christian or yeah there was even a song and he was like you see all the crowd singing it and he was like no this is a clip of like Skynyrd white guys cheering at Ana and the song that was seen game had something to do with like if most other

winters the league in legend and khabib stone a lot I think there's a lot of rappers we've got Carla you've got you know I mean where you've got Maria there's a lot of people in avenues that of Musa Basin even like just even UK ruffridge a horse and then all Muslims honestly I'm even people are not Muslim the or he'll always hearing music novel are here in Charlotte genomics a deep animal is kind of becoming like more popular in the music scene in world and what I really like about all these

people that you know is that all of them they would Islam very naturally so yeah almost I mean maybe with you know if they're not if they don't have additional props if you saw them some of them exactly you may not even know that they are Muslim with some of them especially I mean in this country you might see an Asian and you might think well he's Pakistani or

something so he's gonna be mostly to me it's happened to be a lot of times I've been somewhere I was even on a training camp when of Tyson Fury's training camps in Bowen and there's another guy there he was from France but I think he was our jeering back I remember and we'd been training together for a while but he didn't look no different to me I didn't learn no different to him but we're just normal people and I think my prymaat was a you Muslim I was like but and you'd a lot of people don't know or

I see a lot of people talking about Islam and I'll be there like say if I was going about our business and him I don't thinking they would not have a clue their last thing their think is that I'm Muslim tanaami it's only right well not many makes his people to her I need you and this you know looking into religion being Muslim learning about it you're studying Arabic as well right now you're trying to learn oh yeah yeah yeah yeah remember these teaching Arabic company does right so we fight Momo on the show while chatting about his studies and things right so this

you've had this has kind of led you to a lot of questions on things like salvation and maybe I don't know maybe other questions as well I mean what are some of these things that have been bubbling up and maybe why yes obviously down for my non-muslim family and I always had this question yeah this is one thing that the question I always had before I was Muslim and I always wanted an answer I'm Everest I've never still had a hundred percent sighs slight chance I have a difference of opinion on but my my thing is this if I was you've got two families one's a Muslim family one's a non-muslim from me I've got children naturally they're peep the

defense when a Muslim family are gonna have is La Mina found it again and guitars gonna go up Muslims brother it's his choice whether or not he practices it when he's of age or practice I believe it please expect his ex is exposed to put a lot more then you've got someone I don't know if someone in a completely different foreign country it is hardly any Muslims there at all they know what Islam is where they probably got a skewed version of what Islam is just tear through they've gone and lived their life these two people these two people how was because this boy was born into a Muslim family and this boy wasn't he's had a head start in life compared to this boy because if you just want them places maybe whether they're both to live the exact same life so why should this baby or this person go to

hell and this one go to heaven do you know me yeah so I did look into it a lot and I came up on a lecture from dr. shall be at Ali and he basically said is it's aimed at people where you showed them the real true save and there's no question in it where they reject it for their own desires people that don't have not been exposed to Islam and the true Islam it probably is going to be is not going to be the same as someone that's been shown a true Islam and then reject it no no that's that absolutely I mean that has been a question especially so often people who convert to Islam but other

people as well regular Muslims do ask that about salvation or this you know what can be called salvific exclusivity is it is salvation just for some people other as opposed to everyone and how do you get on that ship if you don't if you're not Muslim because even though there's so many Muslims in the world but the majority of the world is not Muslim you know so and Imam al-ghazali had actually written about that almost 900 years ago in his book where he says he speaks about a tougher time he makes a distinction and he says that the

Byzantine people in his day and age in the Middle East which is modern-day Turkey he says that the Christians the air or the non-muslims they would still fall under salvation because he says well Islam has become kind of distorted it's been made to appear barbaric and that's his damage not at least 900 years ago so today it's very seen as very pop art people see Islam as you know misogyny terrorism backwardness and they see like so that face of Islam has long been lost and the other thing is that

many certain olomana have said that Kufa is really to understand Islam as in three years and then our arrogance to kind of Virginia yeah yeah because there's a lot of people that they're not arrogant they really want to find the truth they want to sit like I've got a friend that told you who's Christian yeah she hundred percent all she wants to do is please God yes he's got no I meet mine and her conversations I've known it for years and she just seems like a good clean hearted person and all she wants to do is serve but better she feels that she's on the right path with them she says if I'm on the wrong path then I pray that God guides me and if end up being Muslim that's right fast and that's why what

I'm thinking these people that I generally all they want to do is salvation and that's there and they and their intention is that they fully believe that they're on the right path then how are they gonna get you know I mean why would be why would the no I told Nina again I did see that all right so okay now I totally see what you're saying and I do I do get that and sometimes some people have said some people have said that for the listeners as well that this does depend only you know some people have said maybe convert struggle more with this but I felt

personally this is a dialogue that many many kind of you know even muslin many people in the West growing up have struggled with this that look is salvation because sometimes it's preached as now everybody's gonna go to kind of like everybody's gonna go to Ethel apart from you know Muslims and it's a bit of a scary scary thing and even and even a lot of Muslims seeing that they believe in this 72 sects or not so you've narrowed it down even now by another 72 percent says likely its turn another it's going to be not many

people not many people gonna be there you know I mean because it's like so hard yeah you know I mean absolutely it's gonna be hard to get in there yeah so I mean you mentioned that you're you know your sister was already Muslim way before you has that led to certain infra a family dialogue on Islam not really you know you said in your family your sister had was Muslim she had embraced Islam before you and used to kind of me like old you know this is take the make and stuff like this now that you have

become Muslim has that led to certain like dialogues between you or things like this about Islam or not really as led to debate even walk yeah we are I said amicable all the time well I love terrorists because she's what hijab I never took it off you don't wear the niqab what she she she she wears the she wears a hijab and stuff but I said to look at all the time as that I look you look like a demon or in the you black gal and I'm very well at fully like have been over are like well I know like do you really mean it I was just

like phantom with her about it but then obviously I ended up yeah but she we have difference called a force of shoes this year obviously I don't follow that but she is really so when we I'm not supposed to about really about it's numb for years but when I first versus she'd say stuff and I've been thinking I've got crew were talking about this I didn't know where she's great she sees that really knows what she's talking about stuff but the way I stated losing a messenger I mean yeah yeah no line is missing you absolutely so I just leave him if she feels I shouldn't right path

no maybe that now you're both Muslims sometimes it leads to debate sometimes it leads to you know more I do sometimes ask my opinion on certain certain on certain topic so I'm she'll ask me my opinion but as old we don't really talk about that much to be honest I rarely see because she lives so far we speak are obviously people on the phone and stuff but really now with over we don't really just talk and in terms of generally learning and reading I mean what what are you because you've mentioned a bit before that look you

yourself you know you're trying to develop you're trying to learn Arabic you're trying to do maybe reading is this I mean do you find yourself like in an absolute minority amongst people let's say your age or is this the norm do you find people are very they want to still they are still learning skills they're learning things they're doing are we talking up religiously or in general in general because I mean yeah circles are probably non-muslim I'm

taking I'm assuming all of them okay which I recently so I tell her I met Khalid in his booth and that all of them was non with me okay so so that's in Creek do you find people are generally and your age developing enhancing skills yeah I do you know I find a lot of people read a lot so a lot of people do read a lot more than a thought about people do read or they try and learn a skill or they try and yeah a lot of people do I do see a lot of my friends trying to learn new skills whatever it might be they do try and have little hobbies in the world whatever else I've been this hopeful humanity then yeah yeah I think this

generators gonna bring it back it's important a lot of people do that in Josephina here's me thinking that people are like reading or they don't like me personally I like to depend on what it is I like sometimes I have to read something to get it in I sometimes I thought what a lecture and yeah you know me say it depends on what it is especially when it's Islamically that's I mean that's it is ultimately this you know this it is it is for a journeys this whole thing faith development going

through life nobody really has all the answers we're kind of to some extent we're all kind of winging I see really sending a lot of comments really I will be getting you on the show so that's a an awesome bravura Saul currently from the UK currently in the Mullica in Saudi Arabia teaching he was north from like modern-day Morocco he's from like 700

years ago so he's a legendary kind of historian geographer is not a historian he's a he's somebody who sets off in travels and writes down his journals wherever he went at he became really famous because he goes to so many countries and describes their cultures and and along the way every place he stops he gets my read so kind of like every place he stops he marries cells there for a short period then moves on

so you know what would you what are some words of some words of advice for people that are let's say they're watching this show ty they're thinking you know what look I'm you know I'm let's say they young they they could be anything from maybe their late teens to or even teenagers right up until like the early 30s or something people that are looking at you thinking well okay well you know I I haven't got a head start in life I haven't you know my father is in a box I haven't been brought up in these crowds but you know I want to make something of my life as well maybe they don't maybe

they're not Muslim these people they're watching you what would you have a what would you have as a message for people like that I just think that a lot of people that are successful came from nothing anyway so same you come from nothing's an excuse I think anybody could make that I never bought giving nothing I never got given nothing myself obviously I wasn't I wasn't at home my family looked after me but he didn't give me give me my sins and he give me food give me clothes and stuff but I've never got given nothing so everything I owned I bought myself and kiss-off stuff but predominated for not knowing I got myself so I think saying that I've not

got a head start in life most of the people that made it haven't had a head start in that if you want something buddy north you you will make it you you'll find a way I'm really one of the people is a lot of people say make sure you've got Plan B I'm not one of them people I don't have a plan B I've never had a plan B oh yeah no plan B I will be with something because anything else if I'm not will jump in the field that's the only thing career-wise I'm going to do and I'll make it one way or another so I feel like if you have to be so full of vision and and get it but there's many ways you have to you know that you have to find what it is you want to do and your passion everybody's posture is different I don't do what your friends

are doing because you want to be like you just be what you want to be find out what of you I just worked worthy money and you can change your life so many people can change the life you could do anything to change your life I've never I've not had the best past myself I've changed my life I refuse to live there no more I would live my life I am the way I am now and you can't change in the past I can't help the situation you put in sometimes but you can change him on be whatever you want to become so don't let nobody put you in a box do you know what I mean and when it comes to religion and stuff the best advice I could give is forget anything anyone's ever told ya and oh just be open-minded be honest with yourself if it's true is true if it's not wrong if

it's not true discard it but one thing is just be oh come on I don't have a preconceived conception of what you know because if anybody was not going to be religious if he's going to be me and alikum so just be real with yourself you know I mean and then and then you can make up your own mind you you're inhuman like think deeper like people take take the thoughts to to new levels of death because I mean I don't know do you find maybe in your circle but I don't general I mean I don't know do people generally think so deeply do you find people generally thinking yeah

I do I think I don't know these people I've come to be person like I've had messages and the are deep people were like one of my friends I went to school with I grew up with just uh why English boy and just lives just like in the same area that I Demeter's and he actually messaged me the other day saying have you got a copy of the crown for me or asking the question about the crown cause he's saying is you know it is I found life very dissatisfying even when I was Muslim to a boy before I met these lot recently I found it this very I was very unsatisfied with life like I even fought to the point where I was just unhappy all the time others for this

isn't satisfying me oh oh and then I fought even when you say unhappy depression not depression yeah I think borderline yeah I think I just wasn't I was very disinterested I didn't find the thing I would he didn't fulfill me nothing fulfilled me and I just thought like even if I would endure water and this and that would I be fiancee momentarily I'd be happy for a bit and then that'd be back to that I was that hit now well says next because nothing Sayid he didn't quench my thirst

okay and even and even when people used to describe heaven to me they black are you can you can you can drink you can reason and I think you you go to the shop and buy color thinking my car like rivers flow one day I'm thinking his River down the road like oh yeah but you can drink it I've got bottled water in it I think in me me is that it like and until I started really looking into it and I think that really comes from your relationship with God so that's what I'm trying to get to now that knowing God and God consciousness because without

that you're never going to be satisfied I've me personally I wouldn't have been anyway I was very dissatisfied things and I think a lot of people have asked me that are not Muslim searching for more answers they're not satisfied you know I mean have you feel that you've kind of emerged gradually out of this discontent towards it yeah so the more I'm getting to know the real Islam happier I'm becoming

yeah so the more because I would like I said Muslim for years but I didn't really enjoy it I didn't how the Islam I knew and and I probably didn't even know a great deal at the time is like I left my namaz really quickly within a couple days but then from years I didn't really learn nothing much I'm kind of anything that didn't ever saw from lectures and stuff for then when I got to know a different kind of Islam and that fitted me it's becoming a lot better and now I'm on a stage okay cool now I'm now starting to flourish in me just becoming better and better and I'm trying to work on my relationship with takuan god-consciousness knowing God you know I mean I think knowing God is the biggest thing that anybody can do because then you'll feel way to peace

and I'm on a journey to getting that because I have found a lot of people I don't you see I've discussed this sometimes on a previous show and on Monday nights with Musti as well that I found of in fact with Mama too as well we discussed this in on urban anxiety on this mindtrap show that I find a lot of young people today maybe from let's say a general 617 even up until like 25 you get this range of people that this discontent you're speaking of it's it's really kind of massively present it's

not just I mean everybody has some level of this content but it's really wearing down on them and I kind of tried to contrast it with when we were because I'm you know much older when we were young and even though I mean I can't I don't know if I feel it's worth today I could be wrong but I feel yeah I think you know what I love to do with the social media set everyone's comparing it I said no matter what you've got no matter what woman you've got no matter what you've got you can just go online I see so on ah this one was better what's she different because you see your woman every day you're gonna see another one looks better and then all you've got our car you're gonna get a

better car so it's you're always comparing you so I think social media has a big impact though for me personally among my age but all our moments are we made best of cars this and I read it or I went for a time where I was just living my playboy life I was on loads of women besides climbing wasn't it was just nothing just emptiness good I tried to substitute i buy cars i buy this I'd buy that after a week you boy said these I'm thinking this world has not got enough for me and then he's still single

people reach out to social media thing you're saying is so true because I do find a lot of people and sometimes what I think is that when you have certain struggles met in life like certain baseline necessities what happens is you start to think more about like where as if you're struggling to I don't know get food and you're struggling to get things it's you're in survival mode but sometimes as you can as a civilization progress out of survival mode you start then having like

an existential angst like you start thinking hmm what's going on in life you know and I entitled this and these are token victories that you're saying you know like oh what about that woman what about that girl what about these car what about yeah yeah it's not it's not it's not a it's this between being happy and being fulfilled of two different things no so it's easy to find happiness so I've been used to cuz I've got a short attention span I think I'm kind of something that needs something all the time if it's not fresh it's not new I get bored disinterested really quick I'll buy a Mara bite and I'm going to track me down not

interested you cool then I'll buy a board then I'll stop playing golf board then I start playing tennis but then I would and I'm trying to find some food you know I mean Andie's and it's not because I'm trying to fill a void it's not it's not this it's not the material things that I'm losing that I'm not I'm not gaining its there something within myself my relationship with God I feel like any time we're far from God I get I get down and depressed every time every time that affects our food be happy people say money didn't make you happy yeah and when it does make you happy you know I really like that distinction you've made because about being happy

and being content this kind of food because it's so true and I definitely agree with you money helps there's no you know you'd rather be you'd rather have money than be poor I mean money all money does the only thing that money does is make life easy don't have to worry about those you can go on holiday you can buy cars that's not happiness he just makes your life easier it doesn't make you happy it doesn't image happy this will fulfill you just makes life easier because I know a lot of people they have not got much they've not got much but they're happy you can even see if you look on some of the documentaries you've got kids in Syria our kids in poverty-stricken countries you're gonna give that kid a little toy the happiest

kid the bomb phone over there and they're running up and down the pure music kids laughing then you get kids that I've got loads of things and they're brats and are unhappy I mean you get like how many famous people commit suicide the millionaires but they're not happy you know I mean then you get people I've not got much you get the suspended family and then they're doing the loving marriage they were looking family I need us live a bog-standard life were there for food within each other and what and they're like emotional on happy film do you know me do you think this is something that from a young age parents teach to their children like they know me has to be taught through it doesn't have to be taught as in today's lesson

is this but it's yeah yeah I think I think the problem with parenting a lot I think a big forward not just acting humans is we don't teach we teach you we teach people after me when you go to school to learn how to make money you go to this to learn how to make money your parents get mad if you skip you go to make money teach guitar to be happy don't teach them to be rich teach you to be happy I think that's a very big lesson that's one thing I always try and keep in mind I do want my son to be successful and that's not saying they give you kids an education because kit is very important to educate your kids of course it is it's more important to teach kids to be happy there's no point

and by having everything we're saying like to be content like yeah if you you know these kind of lessons that the reason I'm saying but during my travels as well I met so many people because I studied abroad for several years who had this approach to life that look it doesn't matter anything you get is a blessing like just get on with it and when you see it so much and you see people immensely struggling get this little smiling and you see every day almost every other day it kind of leaves

an imprint so to teach children that look like it doesn't matter like let's say they haven't got the latest thing well they haven't but this is an amazing blessing just to be kind of have that contentment yeah 100% so a lot of people have said to me I've been before my before I can accelerate my career but a lot of obstacles in the way so it's holding me back from a good number of years and people are like why you always so happy and stuff I'm like I hundred percent want to get back to professor robots in I reach my pinnacle but at the same time is I'm so blessed in so many other ways like I've got a son is poor he is the biggest blessing like that

could I don't care about boxing like I've got my son my funk that I'm very lucky to have most of my I still got two three grandparents I've got my parents I've got my family I've got my city I've not really lost I fought for mine and I've still got you know I mean I've still got I'm very lucky that I've not ida novy or tragedies in my family you know I mean that to a certain degree I'm so blessing in evil ways I'm not poor honestly I'm not so I think gratitude has a lot to do with people's mentality as other thinking you're just grateful for you've gotta start thinking about stuff you not got I think we're a nation of people that are very ungrateful we always think about war when girl and I'm blessed in so many other ways man I'm

happy I'm a happy person to know me there's a lot of things that I'll be sad about but in general I I would feel that you see gratitude is often army doesn't have to be exclusively but I feel is powerfully linked with God because when you've got somebody to be grateful to ya you see it changes the paradigm doesn't it because you can still be grateful in society for were not too exactly like you can still be grateful for you know like all like having family friends blessing you being you know not having illness is not having but yeah it's

different when you're being grateful to because it's through it's much more it's much more present than or much more kind of active yes I wanted to come something original man there's so many it's kind of hard to come with an original Washington everybody's got name so you've got the hit man you've got a dinner ko you've got career you've got AV I don't know you've got all these upset or the

usual I am magic for a while there for me then I change it to star by for any victories it's not starting yeah the childish so then I had a light bulb moment I was like I'm quite active active very proud of my religion the stuff block any like me most people unless you're not familiar with the term act you won't understand it but we know they had difficulty pronouncing that because when they're reading it they just call a act yeah they just say

active oh I thought that was definitely rigid it's definitely original so what about things like Ramadan are you finding this is struggle or not really or I don't find fasting hard at all like when it comes to secretly i'll secret I don't know because I just you know it isn't naturally I don't eat or

late night anyway so if on a normal day I don't only eat off or 5:00 anyway because I just I just don't really I'd get up I'd it I'm not hungry I mean I can't eat when I first get up anyway and then I'm Baba doing bits and bobs and by the time he's not so four or five o'clock in so by the time it comes and I think also when I do I wave for a fight the day before I don't eat nothing our also I'm used to going to merely more than 24 hours of our eat you know didn't anyway the world oh yes training yes before before a fight way which is the day before a fight I have to get down to wait so I don't eat or drink hardly I don't eat anything or do next to nothing for 24

hours and I'm just used to it I can do it kind of is that kind of accustomed to it now you know highlight moments when you when you were boxing and things like there's anything any you know like all this happen on this particular something no you know what's meant on a box here is you see you know worse the tapes back yeah

do you watch yourself back yeah when you watch back yeah cuz I always feel like I'm doing better than the sloppy but what only enough is whenever I watch him I not always keep saying my friends come to the fights I always get me to send all the video straight away from after and I never look at the fights first our water I watched a video about four or five six times and all I'm looking at is my family's reaction I don't watch nothing else and it's such a good feeling to make my family proud reaction because I'm watching because

I'll watch it say someone's recording on the phone if you kind of see outside and then you can see outside the rink a little but you can't really fully see their reaction we can see I'm so videos I've got you can see where they are in the crowd and I'm just watching they're all my friends are nothing kin I'd ever watch myself I just watch their many sort of a feeling to think you know what I'm doing I'm doing something and my friends are my family a part of me that's the best thing about boxing for me wait were you boxing it I've gone

down to super middleweight 12 sons yeah but you walk around a lot heavy you normally lose like Tuesday's I'll walk around about 13 or 14 stone but then within the Cheney companies in the water and stuff you go down and then you but what I happen is so I will literally be dij to and again on a scale that we talk stone but a fights not so the next day so I'll rehydrate myself and our boxer next 8:30 in stone so you normally posture nah never not when you rehydrate yourself in you to meet the weights how many days would you need to kind of get to the party it is so I'll come into camp and

so what we'll do is our community come six to eight weeks before and I'll probably be about 42 stone I love its water and a lot of its fact that always eating junk food the toonfest everyone that knows me anyone I stopped me on Instagram don't know my love affair with Peter in church cheese it to my fish and chips in seconds and uh naive far too much but anyway yes I always put on waiting between fat so for six to eight weeks I'll be on a strict diet a calorie deficit and I'll just change change laying deep loads of water and I'll get down to probably probably like 12 stones six before the day before the weigh-in okay then why do is I just cut out all

water nor food not the day before I don't know you're just completely fast it's not a little bit of water is it like saunas and Steve's like it can't be that if you don't if you don't catch it right but if you do it right you don't need to do it you just put it on you drop a normally away couple on the way or just underweight you're very you're way in a 12 stone so you just literally just shred it but you just like wheat just about to fire them you wouldn't be able to how many days is it you have to this is the day before the day before the way is always the waves always the day before the fire see your

way in and then you'll go defy so you're probably waiting normally like three o'clock on a Friday afternoon yeah okay oh three to six and then did your fight probably ten o'clock the next night so I waited for Istanbul by 10 o'clock the next nine months 18 stone figures known to she put it on see no one was actually the way they way you know anyways what are your thoughts on that you know the thoughts on let's say if boxers were different weights but whilst fighting each other in your do you feel that that would make a substantial significant difference yeah because if you're if

you're 60 and stone bill yeah yeah and you're powerful and then your Spock so someone has 10 stone if you hit is 10 stone person he's gonna knock him out what on a split side it yeah i'ma split side to that is these tend to dooms person is going to be faster than if you you've got to catch him for his well if you get someone so say like say light-heavyweight with your 12207 or super-middleweight we're kind of in the middle where we still hold big power but we're still quick where's the light year ago they're very quick well that less power one and heavy weights I've got more powerful that is quick even though you do get quick everyone so we're kind of in their danger range so for me to go on fire 10 stone person it's not fair is

it active is not gonna be able to hurt me is 10 stones you not me now I've just thought that because I mean that's me obviously that is the logic behind boxing but I know in other sports they don't really take a regard for like weight and stuff like this what's what kind of combat it's not so much I think that kind of complex but in like I think in like MMA and kickboxing or that I think it's all work out gives you ok ok ok alright so I mean that's interesting to hear from from your perspective of

people like loads heavy to me so the last torment I went into if there was two ways a woman superman her way they was cruiserweight they would laugh forties there okay wait if I want to oh boy Maggie's not my new sister so I like personally come fight every first thing but areas that can't calm down and start fighting like people do not mean how did that know for you when you went I had three fights on one arm alright so that's do you find you know as a as a boxer

within boxing boxing specifically I'm assuming I mean I'm not too familiar with sports anyway but boxing specifically stands out with almost a legacy of Muslim celebrities do you feel Mike Tyson Muhammad Ali and do you find this is in some way an inspiration when you're in the ring doing the art well not really to be fair never before so I've never really kind of put the two together a fan of does boxes box box is like a kind of mob work and Islam took like my normal life but

obviously the bigger I get the more out there are getting more tires I guess it's naturally going to become a part of it because I'm associated with there's gonna ask questions people are gonna know about it more June army so who naturally become more part of it so fine meter Billy Billy's in the house all right man with the van people if you need a vine right there you go Billy's one of our lads he's asked a question would you fight Aamir Khan I can't fire is too small man

[Applause] you know ask I say yeah this kind of slipped my mind but is an important question as a Muslim now we most of your friends most of your family non-muslim how do you do you still partake in just regular kind of like family celebrations how do you feel has that ever been an issue I know something you're talking about Christmases yeah like Christmas

and yeah so what I do is I will partake in him per se so I will go there I'll go and have a celebration or family bar don't celebrate a meeting so I don't think I don't believe Jesus died for my sins and I don't believe that it was odd and stuff but I'll go and spend time with hunger Barney through the event that's very I actually agree with that view partly personally I think people have a very feet oh you're gonna tell her if I so I will go to a Christmas party my family on our were Christmas jumper that does not mean all of a sudden now I'm committee shook and I

believe me know Jesus I've got this was doing point that doesn't not change my belief system I fully stand steadfast in my belief that when a line is final messenger solo really solo what how does now me play league umpire or gran any food my family on a certain day then saying it just doesn't make sense it's just it's just it's just it's not even logical like think sir Allah knows what's in my heart and he knows that I'm not deny me I said your festival where I'm not I'm not celebrating a meaning to me if I was going to celebrating the meaning of it you'd have a valid point I fully know it's not that my family no I don't believe that I'm buying my son presence because I don't feel left out for the rest of the form of I'm also

buying presents on Eid I don't tell him that Jesus is Jesus's birthday and this is nice just we're going to find the quality on me because it's it's part and parcel of the life of the lifestyle of society by and large which is yeah and I feel is detached from religion even in society the people in this country celebrate Christmas do not believe in Jesus anyway

a lot of people don't see it as that big of celebrating there it's just a cultural party basically exactly and I had on one of my Monday nights when it was Christmas I put on the Santa thing just for a bit of a laugh and I know it upsets people sometimes and sometimes I do I had a similar thing on Halloween I said that these things are just cultural that they don't today share any kind of

pagan you know really just a deity whether it did hundreds of years ago or not is irrelevant but today doesn't so you know if your child wants to dress up on Halloween and I don't know go to a Halloween party at school or something this is a ship you know you don't need to be so insecure with your faith that's the I think I think I think I think we understand is God knows our intentions is to do with intention if this if this is a pagan first of all and I intentions are pure God is already the great so it's not gonna deteriorate him in any form whatsoever it's not gonna be packed

in it's not gonna even if all Muslim is the greatest no matter what we do so he knows what's in our heart if it's harmless and we don't believe in their traditions and what they're saying is what's the problem I'm not committed quite young about no I mean money attention to its alternative intentions I believe that if your intentions are clean and pure then keeping moving but if you don't want to do that and that's what you don't get allow you do what you've got to do that's your that's your game and that's your right to be what you want to do but think that you're all of a sudden got right to tell people what they can and can't do and I'm so I'm so glad that you you know you can confidently kind of do that you can

confidently embrace that because I feel sometimes some people they lack the confidence to embrace it and then they I've had people reach out to me sometimes say well you know for years they've cut off their families because their families are not Muslim and I found that so just I mean that's such a sad state of say having some do you move this fee whether your move is Muslim or non-muslim exactly you've got to be County parents Muslim or non-muslim why would it what what what person's okay then so what message is that giving out as a non-muslim v-y about non-muslim wants to Reaver but then they all of a

sudden things I can't be part of my family no more so if I am if I take into this religion I've got to then answer this religion and then exit my family no one's gonna what is gonna want to come to a religion that teaches that it's ridiculous yeah no absolutely I'm really glad to hear that as well I just I just say what I believe I'm not like a yes month and everybody I might I have certain I have certain beliefs now that I didn't have and I'm and the more knowledge I get I will hold I will learn more and more and more but I'm not a yes mom for no one honor I believe what I believe if you don't believe if we if we don't agree on this thank Wanda let you do what works you know I do what works for me you know but the message it's interesting because

the message of Islam has been so much about keeping ties about kinship about you know like honoring even the neighbor you know you know you don't even have faith if your neighbor sleeps hungry well to you I have a full stomach now to that extent that in a hadith the Prophet said you know there's so many rights even a neighbor would have that I fear that maybe you know perhaps God would even make him inherit like I was getting worried like you know that there's not many rights but this is just you know regardless of faith and then you've got actual family you know people whether they're siblings whether it's your

parents whether it's your children or outer you know uncles grandparents whoever but yeah I mean so that religion should never be something that severs it should always try to kind of bring people bring together that should be the there's so much that we do so much assume is we agree on I don't understand why there's so many and I see a lot of Muslims doing it's honor to divide and you're this and on that you're that say you go over there even even trying to divide it amongst ourselves never mind a human race there's so much we agree on as human beings are so much we've got in common is human being like let's just

enjoy what we agree on know people you get you can get you can get people from the same family from the same woman that that are different different like not 99% of the time you have to siblings are completely different personalities absolutely so everybody's did everybody's different when I stop there's always someone segregation I'm not for it I wasn't if you're a good person and I like you man if you're not then I forget people trying to sign you up

I remember my auntie had died I think couple months ago and she's 100 years old masha'allah when she died but I put a pot recipes aren't your my insta stairs I'm Moses problem you can't seriously she's aquifer what like this girl and I'm thinking like if they was like people if they if they was like if a non-believer come to them I try to get

advice on them the advice that they would be giving you wouldn't want to be it's just gonna put you off I know I mean yeah and I've got a video a detailed video of in case anybody is wondering on this to do it can you I'm trying to think of the title page to do with Stephen Hawkins when he died so this thing began because certain people said all rest in peace and other Muslims kind of said this is haram so I made a video about it was I mean he was the excuse to pretext but the message was generic that can you say rest in peace or make du'a can you send prayers for people who are non-muslim that have died and I said

that yes you can and I said that look even if you look at the message of the Quran the famous though are that a lot of people sometimes reading this Salah repeatedly machi masala this dua in the Koran is on the tongue of Abraham of ibraheem alehissalaam and it says reppin are fairly that oh you know Allah forgive me while he were he take you and my parents young me a family he said and here Abraham is is an old man and we learn in the Quran that Abraham's father Ibrahim at least my father did

not embrace he was very harsh against him yes he's still making dua for him so I said that and you know the biggest thing is that and it's about character like if you if if religion has made you a better person if it's made you a more harsh hurtful less you know empathetic person then then you know what you found was everything else hundred percent man I think if you I you see so many people

not that's a liar that that's a bigger situation not so many people but you see a lot of extremist Muslims of extreme views you think you have not become a better person from your on from you conveyor this is to no good for you us I don't understand what I was put you on this path to then become so like a quest giver cut flow and just like did you know I mean that's not that's that that's thus that's not how the Prophet was he was a soft homeboy nice person I don't understand what you're on you know I'm he like I don't understand what you're reading well it's not the Islam that I know so if that's what works for you do your thing but that's not for me somebody run and don't tell me how to

how I should interpret my religion I interpret in the way I read books and the way my intellect follows and you do whatever works for you I don't agree if you don't agree so we see that none of those things have really Islam hasn't been a barrier in any of those things I learned what about relationships what's this way time - hello for

hiromi's I don't really know I don't know no Muslim girls really unless others like from around where I'm from I already know none obviously I've got so I got I don't really know no so it's kind of hard to like you can't just go in who's gonna introduce me to them do you know I mean so it's only like I'm not gonna Muslim system well I've got a system which is far like I'm wasn't in

family or I'm around I don't really know I even to the point where I'm so not around Muslims when I get one of my friends Muslim houses I fully don't know how to act somebody do I say hi I think Instagram and stuff can make you a lot easier but if you see that profile as much look out for the tattoos the tats it's all about the tax

what is that tattoo the tiger uh-oh yeah I can see I'm gonna get a hump because in the past tattoos would what tattoos are today so today tattoos are like a kind of fashion accessory whereas in the past people who were brandished and they were kind of disfigured or they were the way they kept cattle and animals or the kept slaves or they kept or sometimes tribal

but it was kind of gun in a it wasn't a mark of beauty or a mark of fashion it wasn't something like that and yes so the whole thing kind of this is a very recent phenomenon and I do explain that there are several scholars like especially within the Maliki school that did say that many of these things even if they discourage but they're not Haram in that sense yeah when it comes to certain things if there's a difference of opinion on it like save scholars have a different opinion and it I take it is it's hell out with it and the reason is dead the easiest thing for me to do is

to worship gossage God to make it if I went to here to worship God it shouldn't make it off of me you should just make it should be easy to ask God it shouldn't be hard to [ __ ] you know I mean yeah so when it's difference of opinion it's not clear-cut like we all know that we should pray five times a day we also we should eat pork we all know that we should inject alcohol we all know should we swim communes dinner these things that clear-cut is know but things with big difference of opinion it's not clear-cut so it's not you should have be made hard to find out oh I'm trying to find out all these riddles and do you know I mean I totally agree isn't it so I find out anything that's this difference of opinion on I just take it as it's not her own because if it was her own you'd

know about it yeah what about this market given up pork was that an issue because my family is Jamaican so half of my family dummies any my dad doesn't yes I love Jamaicans because obviously Rastafarians are fun to make er they're not wrestlers but is a culture they don't really be listening Jamaican and Reedy

yeah so I stopped eating it so then I'm now so I stopped seeing my sister stop - unit year before and now I'm up to Leo borders they don't eat my cousin's don't yeah so none of the mills in my family I don't yeah I don't think most of us don't eat pork most of the females you know but it's never been a like a craving because you stop yes r2 happened I used to eat I used to eat bacon and ham and stuff when I was a kid growing up now the smell of it repulses me I wouldn't even eat it even if it was

holistically I can't even eat you see the turkey bacon I can't eat because it reminds me too much of bacon makes me very sour balls are a year mmm-ma wasn't it mom mom always saying ty mom I say Ty's

a fake Jamaican long so cool mind you know what I think it's it's we've gone on quite oh I know we've taken up quite a bit of your time you probably can be it's been awesome is there anything you'd like to say before you before you go today to

viewers and maybe a message or something or you wanna yeah most much profile just been asked to people - there's a message just remember with humor bhisma just be nice to people man I think wouldn't you just accept the fact that not everybody to say not every is born to be the same Allah didn't make codes like that so just say except the fact that people are different they can have different opinions different views and then just enjoy what we calmly our common grounds and spin as two people might think that's so simple yet so

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