Monday Nights with Mufti Abu Layth | Session 18

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people Bon once again welcome back so abah uhum folks hope things are good I just hope everybody can hear me okay um Kimberly right so ah what a day people what a day I apologize for ah being late but what a day damn amazing been meeting up with some

heavy mashallah I've been in the Blessed company of uh a nan Ali Khan it's always a pleasure to be with him and people like U she akwi amazing people uh Scholars within the West so it's been amazing it's been intense but let's get back to what a lot of you have been waiting on right so

jam right that's what our SOS that's what I'm talking about my Spanish is is getting there it's getting there I'm trying I'm trying so right now okay I'm going to get some of these questions forwarded uh to me so hopefully that'll save time for people to uh not have to repeat them right just give me a moment just going to say um I'll get that done all right so

now okay so first of all people uh I know there's been a hell of a lot of discourse a hell of a lot seems to be a hornet's nest that's been opened up a lot of people uh asking a lot of questions I want to clarify and shed some light and hopefully guide perhaps some people let me just get my my drink people my drink oh that's going to fall all right so let's put it like

that nope that's not good right well look at that espanol espanol right so let's put that on there let it rest right so people first of all I want to clarify some things which have been asked quite a bit following um last week's this whole thing to do with the companions of the Prophet Sall alaihi wasallam okay I think it's very important that I get through this and then I will be trying to take your questions as well okay so but I want to get through this first

okay first of all last week um I answered one of the questions amongst the many questions was to do with a companion you're well aware um amongst the great companions now I was asked to give my position on him and be honest now I want to say something here that there was a context to that okay I had for it had been almost two to three weeks I had been seeing on Facebook people making several posts right i' had been seeing this I'd

been witnessing this people making several posts dissing insulting disparaging ing abusing verbally mu okay now I uh stayed quiet I did not engage those people um unquestionably I was offended unquestionably uh but I did not engage the people right people were not only doing these things they were spreading this as nonsense as this is right this is another thing which I'll clarify I'll shed a bit of light on

now then following that I was asked uh on this uh on my Monday nights that can you speak about mua so there was a context to this I did not some some people thought that uh they asked me the question that did I just come on here and open a can of worms for people no I did not there was a whole context going on for a few weeks online where people and I was seeing it on my time timeline again and again and a few people they were constantly abusing and insulting mua the words they were using was that he was a villain uh he was

Judas he was uh he was a bad person he was wrong some people insinuating whether he died a cfir uh people doing all these things constantly about mu then I was asked and some of them kept saying oh what's wrong with this we're doing this under the banner of objectivity okay now I then when I was asked that kind of just was the straw that broke the camels back if you like that I was asked on my uh on my own show on this about my my live Q&A about mua so I thought I just could not hold back

so that was the context now people have asked me to clarify certain things I'm happy to clarify okay and I want to clarify certain things I want to first of all clarify certain questions before we get into and then I'm going to go through what actually believe and then I'll tackle some follow-up questions and then I'll look at the rest of the questions that you guys have got as well okay so first of all I've been asked what do I believe about

now I believe and this is me myself in my words saying it to you you do not need to infer what I believe you do not need to kind of uh I don't know do some detective work I myself am telling you okay I believe s Ali is amongst the greatest companions that ever lived okay I believe he was has amongst the most credit amongst the most Credit in Islam along with people like Omar and okay I believe that he was amongst the rightly guided

KF and absolutely awesomely amazing personality a fountain and an rather a notion of knowledge that is my understanding of okay as it is with people like Omar as it is with AB Bakr as it was as it is withman okay I believe these people to be great people the problem was not what do I think about s Ali the problem was people were attacking muaah for having fought against s

Ali they had then said that well s Ali is always upon the and I'll deal with some of these things I had advised people that we asah do not do not discuss really we do not that is the primary uh understanding of our beliefs we do not get into their fights okay people said well why not we just want to be objective in light of that I then highlighted well okay the problem with being objective was when we people only there's a selective focus when they say they want to be objective

they only mean mua and I gave an example I quoted Imam Malik now this was Imam Malik I'm quoting now I know somebody did a video on me uh some guy called Omar and he said well look uh you know I'm talking about the Hadith I was not talking about the Hadith I made it very clear I was talking about IM Malik's statement which is bought in the right by it's brought in there he is asked who are the best of Companions and Imam Malik says abak then Omar then Usman and then he stays quiet and then

the person says yeah what about Ali and he says this is his objective position he says well I feel all of them are the same after that and the person asks him and uh and he says in this one re which is in the by he says I don't feel the person who pursued governance is like those who did not so this is Imam Malik now I'm presenting what Imam Malik has said and people were up in arms oh my God he's insulted s Ali first of all that was not an insult to say somebody wants governance well okay you might find it

insulting but s Ali was fit for governance okay he was ideal for governance he was the most deserving person for governance at the time now there's nothing wrong in that when s yfam is asked by the king about he says which is in the Quran why don't you put me in charge indeed I am somebody who is incredibly wise at safeguarding and very knowledgeable he himself is saying he's a prophet way above Ali right so the

thing is that's not necess unless you want to take it as an insult it's not an insult okay now the thing is but that was IM Malik I was being objective what happens people can't take it this is why what I'd like to do is set some anchor points let's say so when ever I explain something I want to say well go back to that anchor that main point which is firmly resting okay and this is the ofah right so this is what people inah actually believe and I'd like to go through certain quotes with us okay

let's go as far back as he is asked [Music] about he's asked and this is in the is transmitted he's asked what do you say about all these battles that happened he said that that though that is certain Bloodshed that Allah didn't let my hand reach Allah basically didn't Place me where that Bloodshed was going on he

says Allah didn't let my hand reach that Bloodshed why should I dip my tongue in that blood this was okay now I want this is an awesome statement people are misquoting right people are misquoting this is Hass alas Hass was somebody who generally people transmit he preferred the side of Ali people transmit that but listen to what he said about all of this about these fights that broke out between the companions he

says that is a battle those were battles they were present but we were absent we didn't attend it he says they knew but we were ignorant about what happened we were ignorant about what happened but they had knowledge he says when and when they are united we followed and he says and when they have disagreed

amongst them then we just stand we do not we do not get involved like that but let's carry on okay who's the uh student of Ahmed H in his book Sunnah transmits okay some of the when they are asked they say and I'm going to go through certain things of they say mention the good things about the companions of the messenger of Allah do not mention that which

led to the fights between them and that you should end up making people hate them do not mention that okay let's go on nowed okay in the of the is transmitted and in other books in and other books he mentions he says that there was an of the that the scholars agreed

upon he says that we stop we do not get involved in the fights that occurred between the companions he says we believe these people to be the best of the companions and we ask Allah's mercy upon all of them right now and then he says this is the stick to this you will be safe that he says as long as you hold on to it you

will be guided and leaving this is misguidance let's carry on with in his the consensus the 48th consensus he says this is those of people who claim to be this is what he's saying is part of the they have a consensus we have a consensus we do not mention the companions except with

goodness and he says and that they are the best of people who regarding whom we can spread their virtues and that we seek for any faults of this the best interpretation this is okay the the the father of the which is the majority of the Muslims worldwide today okay

that's him right let's go to in his right what does he have to say he says that we stop from backbiting or or insulting or abusing or saying anything derogatory about them and if there's anything we think is bad from them we interpret it in a good light that's from his book okay of let's go to

what Young Malik the da AB Z says the legendary the people they said his book was worth was to be written in Gold okay he's also referred to as young Malik he says that the best of generations was those who saw the prophet and they had faith in him and then he says that they were the uh then those who came and those who came and then he mentions the best of

them and then he says that we do not mention the companions except with the best of best of reme we don't call them Judas we don't call them traitors we don't call them villain with the best best of remembrance and we stop on the disputes that occurred between

them and they are the best of people who you can find a good excuse for tell me if if your father got caught doing something would you find an excuse for him if your brother got caught doing something would you would your friend if your Sheik if your Sheik got caught doing something would you not find an next these were the best of people the best right people say today objectivity Mubarak when he's asked about who would you say OMD was better on mua he says the dust the dust that was on mu was better than OMD right so let's

let's go on I'm not stopping here he writes in his book on the in his book of he says that on we stop on the disputes we do not get involved in the disputes between the messenger as the companions of the

messenger they witnessed things battles with him with the prophet they proceeded us to good deeds and virtue and Allah has forgiven them their shortcomings and he's commanded us to seek forgiveness for them and he's and we get close to Allah by by loving

them and that they will have fought knowing this Allah knew this the prophet said in aith Inari he said that it will be soon the hour will not come from my two great armies will fight a great fight a great

battle yet their claim their da is one one is not calling to the Hellfire they're calling one that's Inari the same words used when the prophet said that about in once again Muslim when the prophet says this son of mine is a leader that Allah will that two great armies the same wording used again that he will unite

them and what does he do he does unite them but let's take a look here it says Allah knew that they would do that yet he asks us to seek forgiveness for them yes they make mistakes yes they do but Allah says he's forgiven them he will forgive them this is what we make Dua for as well and he says says and every dispute that happened between them inshallah is Forgiven for them they were great people right what does the da

of the famous Malik of the student of what does he say the second major figure in the what does he say in his book he says and it is necessary that we know [Music] that the fights and arguments that happen between the we must stop from getting involved in it and we seek Allah's Mercy for all of

them and we praise them and we praise them and we ask Allah for their safety security Their Blessings and for Paradise for them now check this out check this out bani the from the farther figures of the known in as the judge he

says he takes sides he himself takes sides he says I believe personally that Ali was more correct he was correct in this decision to take battle this was B's decision I mean his understanding he says and what the sahab did was with people said on my Facebook show me where does it say that they did this with it's full in the books of he says it

which they had rewards they are not considered sinful we do not consider them misguided and then he mentions the the the verse of the Quran and people said to me oh you can't mention that verse is the father of one of the father figures Al bakani mentioning the same verse and then he says the prophet said if somebody capable ofad does he gets two rewards if he gets it right if he gets it wrong he gets one reward and then he he says the same Hadith which I just quoted to you

about H that that these two great armies will fight and Hassan will uh uh will resolve it for them and he mentions what those who got it wrong they will get rewards okay so this is that's in his book and he does say in the as well let's take a look at said he says in

his nobody from the people of knowledge disagreed in every age that theab the companions of the [Music] messenger and that which they did and disputed over and fought over that they are still rewarded and [Music] praiseworthy even if we believe that the truth was with some rather than others okay what does Abu the famous Andi

Maliki scholar and the famous as well you know for and the Transmissions of the Quran what does he say right this is in his when he's explaining the of he says that when it comes to the you only mention their you only spread their Good Deeds

right right you do not get into the disputes between them and he mentions this Hadith he says because the messenger said when my companion are mentioned stop okay that's him mentioning this this Hadith from the prophet and then he says and it is obligatory that we find the best excuses for

theml right so okay let's see what said from the four who died in 449 H in his he says [Music] he says and we see that we stop we do not get involved we purify our tongues when it comes to mentioning them and he says and we do not mention what has an what has a blemish regarding them or

kns we see seeking Mercy for all of them okay what does Al famous scholar with one of the greatest books in Islam right Al in what does he say he says from the Sunnah that the uh that you love the me the companions of the prophet and you seek Mercy for them and you seek forgiveness for

them and you stop and abstain from mentioning any of their faults or their disputes and you recognize that they proceeded us with virtue what does Imam noi say people let's go to Imam noi is he not one of the great IMS of or people have been quoting IM noi let's see what im noi says he [Music]

says he's commenting on a Hadith when the prophet says Those Who Kill and get killed are in the Hellfire he says know with certainty what happened amongst the companions is not included in this uh in this Hadith okay and then he says that the of is that we only think good about

them that we only think good of them we do not we abstain from judgment and that that they were they did and we do good and they had they interpreted things they were not trying to disobey and neither the all these claims saying mu was seeking the he

says rather each group thought they were more upon the H right and then he mentions but like says he says and one of them would have been correct and one of them may have been mistaken but he's forgiven and excused and he says because it's he says right and then he says and he prefers that Ali was was upon the H and

mu did and was rewarded for his this is IM noi let's see what had to say in his he says that we stop from what uh uh from the disputes that happened we abstain from it what does IM zahabi say people keep quoting IM zabi right let's see what im says he says he

says as it has been established that we abstain from the fighting that occurred between them we do not pass judgments on them okay he says now he says and then listen to this this isab the person who writes history he says okay he says most of that is distorted it is weak it is not established and some of it are just lies this is his word so we ought to fold it and hide

it move it or conceal it rather destroy it these are's words so the hearts can be purify if and so that they may be nurtured upon the love of the companions of the messenger of Allah s alaihi wasallam now check this out he says and concealing these disturbances is an obligation from the masses of Muslims because the masses of people are just emotional they're not a reason-based people they just get emotional like

people go oh my God this guy is attacking he must be attacking so they just get emotional right so okay what does say he says and this is in his he says some of it happened without intending like the battle with that the the Hypocrites started that fight he says that that happened without intent and there was some which was

with like that with but the person who did is rewarded listen this is people saying to me where did they say this in this is all they say right and he says re and he who got it right gets two rewards okay now I saw so many people quoting let's see what had to say he

says are have agreed it is an obligation to refrain from attacking or criticizing any of the sahab because of what happened to them he says even if you came to know who was upon truth from them this is who who they keep quoting listen to him right this is inat right in the 13th volume page 37 he says they

fought he says rather such a person would still be rewarded okay would still be rewarded then in his people said mu Subhan Allah check this out people said mua is not trustworthy wow wow what does say this is in his right he says

Islam all of the sahab are TR trust worthy he says the only people who disagreed was a tiny amount of Heretics so so just think about that I want you to seriously think about what I've just been saying these are this is not a joke like I'm mentioning to people people were asking me mention the show us where does it actually say these things so I felt it necessary now this is our Anchor Point okay I want you to use this

to refer back to it so whenever I say well what do We Believe come back to this point okay because it is important now now there's so many things here but I just wanted to to highlight some some interesting things now this is interesting people what does Imam we say about our now listen to this his his book is heavily relied upon he says and we love the companions of the messenger of Allah he

says we do not excessively focus our love on one all these people excessively just loving Ali only this is not he says this is not the of right this this is IM in his he says and we do not see say oh I've got nothing to do with any one of them we do not say this is IM and he says he says anybody who has enmity towards them we have enmity towards these people this

is what he's saying and we only mention them with goodness and their love [Music] is that is the love for them and he says is right so this who who am I quoting here people who am I seriously quoting this is this is what loads of people base their a on this right now here's an interesting one now IM Ahmed and I've quoted this

before once again saying that it is not permissible for anybody to mention anything to do with the faults of the sahab a fatwa from immed okay now the there you go people now people are asking where is it what's wrong with this you know what where does it say an Malik said in a Hadith uh right now and this has been it's in the of he says the prophet said

whosoever abuses one of my companions okay then the curse of Allah and the angels while Mala is upon him okay just so so you understand that and there's an amazing statement here and I want to keep coming back to this this is from Imam Malik when people asked him about those who criticized the sahaba what did he say he said that what is there what is their end game what are they trying to get at all they're trying to get at and I want to come back to this point he said

they're just trying to say that the prophet did not know how to keep good company and this is an indirect attack on the prophet so just keep keep those words in mind and look at what said about what im Malik said and IM Malik said people who despise some of the companions he said I his personal thing was he felt they were they were just people concealing kufur they were within kuf that was what im Malik's F was now look at IM he

says that he W what a statement now check this out IM Ahmed he said if you see anybody criticizing or mentioning any fault of any companion he said he said accuse like that you really be suspicious of his Islam that was Imam Ahmed now and there were other people now check this out

IM from the major whosoever attacks any of the sah he says he's somebody he's somebody as though he's left Islam right IM says about any okay he he's speaking specifically about Abu Bakr he says whoever does that he felt that was they left Islam right he says if you see somebody criticizing taking faults of

anyone that is a person whose Islam cannot be trusted now what does AB say you do not follow the mistakes or the shortcomings of the companions now people these what does say he quotes IM Malik whosoever insults any of the companions Omar he mentions mu Ali he says these people he says that they ought they are upon misguidance and it

is Haram what they have perpetrated right once again uh same thing he says anybody who does that is a look at sh comes from a background which was a zi background he his origin was not even he says that this being a was a great matter whoever tried to violate the honor of any of

them he has fallen into an abyss that is very difficult to be saved from right so these things people it is important to remember and and I want this to be like a a kind of an anchor point to come back to okay so and there was another interesting point as well that uh if we see Ahmed he was asked now this is interesting he was asked

M this is being asked what do you say about somebody says I don't accept mu to be the Scribe of the prophet and somebody criticized me for saying that when I quoted uh I AR's Journal his diary of saying when he went to bdad and he saw on the Masid the uncle of the believer Ahmed is asked this in his the of in his book what do you say about somebody who says I don't consider mu to be the uncle of the Believers he only took this matter by

force what does Ahmed say he says says this is a horrid statement horrid wretched statement he says you do not mix with such a people and he says we do not sit and keep the company of such people and once again uh so this look why am I mentioning all these things it's important that we understand this is

the now I want to mention here somebody had posted today saying they had posted today saying that oh it is the of that muaah was wrong do not be misguided by their words I accept that many ofah said he was wrong but read the full sentence they said he was wrong in his but he was rewarded see what these people do is they're taking this word wrong and they're saying oh that means

wrong misguided upon misguidance heretic maybe I I read you know what I read on I read he may be going to the Hellfire his Judah traitor is Haram you know people say mu doesn't call things Haram it is Haram to be speaking about the companions any companion of the Prophet like that okay I clearly tell you I've read all those things to you so when you ask me and when people say oh but say uh mua

was wrong muaah was wrong according to many people he was wrong wrong but he was wrong in his not wrong as in a bad guy a bad person a villain not like that that is Haram to say that okay that is not the of it is important to remember that now I'd like to take some some of these questions that were related to this and then I'll move on to your questions people now first thing am I saying are you saying that Ali and mua are the same in

status right I have never said that Ali and mua were the same in statusi in terms of status in terms of Merit is much greater than mua mua too is a great companion but Ali is amongst the greatest companions right there's no doubt about that I've never said but the greatness like this amazing quality of Ali does not detract from mua being a great companion to he was a great companion he was not on the status

of Ali mu himself in a whenl asks him that he says he says he's much better than me everybody knows that Ali was much you know much greater than uh than mu but that does not mean that because he was greater mu was a bad person that does not follow that logic does not follow it is Haram to do that to pit them up against one each one

and uh against each other okay so let's clarify that secondly I do believe that Ali was the most deserving of the in his time some there were other great people as well and there is in history they do say some people did uh prefer some of the they preferred Zu Ori definitely was in my understanding the most deserving in that time right I do accept that but what I was speaking about was the circumstances under which the occurred okay that's it comes back

to this objectivity that people keep calling to and we can't can't handle that the truth is this is why we don't discuss it because people just end up abusing each other right okay so let's let's take so that I just want to clarify that I do believe that s Ali was much more virtuous than mua but mua was also a great companion right H is with Ali so he's protected from mistakes this statement is so misleading first of all

in our we do not believe in the infallibility of anybody Beyond prophets this is a demarcating point between us and the Shia okay the Shia believe that Ali and the family of Ali and the imams are infallible they're incapable of making mistakes we do not believe that Ali is not infallible Omar was not infallible right nobody was infallible beyond the prophets right this is nonsense that trying to push this as Sun this not this is there's nothing and and some guy on my post wrote Oh no I don't mean infallible I mean uh he was protected from making

mistakes I mean do you understand English protected infallible means protected from making mistakes right so either learn English right the thing is we do not believe that about anybody this is one of the dividing points between the Shia sunah never believe this this is once again one some of the Shia propaganda that has come into okay

now right did let me didn't mu try to claim this is nonsense look people I want to explain something when we look at history right we have to understand that history has come to us through very murky Transmissions right now people who collated to history let's take Imam tabar as an example in his own introduction he tells you he says people I have put anything and everything in

this book anything that was transmitted to me he says in his transmission do not think this is my opinion he he says he says this has come from the people who transmitted it he says it is up to you to verify its truth that he presents it with a chain now there are certain com certain transmitters who are utterly unreliable utterly okay people like Abu M his name was utterly unreliable according to every

is rejected he's somebody who they describe as he was a burnt out in his extremism that's the wording they use for him we do not accept him over 90% of all the Hadith in Hadith I say the incidents of the battle of between mu and Ali over 90% of them in the come through he's not even reliable he's far from reliable right so people like people

like people like people like these people you got to be careful who you're taking history from when he's asked about he said he said that the value of uh the of is the value of its isnad the chain of transmission if the chain is good it's good the chain is bad we reject it now look sometimes history it's okay you know sometimes you're just trying to get a picture like I want to know I wonder how the city of Medina was I wonder how many markets were there I wonder how

many population was and I'm reading history now the chains might not be all that but I'm just trying to get a picture it's no big deal water under a bridge people water under a bridge or water off a duck's back there's nothing to it it's no big deal you want to pass judgment on the best people of this umah you want to condemn them whoa do you have certain proof of what you're saying now it is a big deal it's a very big deal you can't just say oh uh it doesn't matter anymore it does matter hell yeah it matters so you can't just

take like people like uh Abu M and you know these kind of people their rat okay and there's there's some things I want to highlight here when I made last week's post I had a huge huge backlash and some of you may have followed it on my Facebook and people they were cursing on there they were swearing to insulting Zu T the wife of the Prophet one guy uh swore at her said Allah insults her in the Quran um they insulted muawiya the non-stop this was going on right on my wall this was going on now

we have to understand why have this is important to reflect on why why does this matter why have people been led to this now there's a few a few reasons that I'd like us to to grasp one is we from the Indo Pac World especially a lot of our Islam comes to us and our language through Farsi Farsi influences and through a lot of there is a lot of kind of Shia nuances within our culture that go unchallenged by the

way so things like let me give you an example like people saying that now this is not an issue of uh by the way this is an issue of you will never see the statement you'll never see that yeah I mean mad you'll never see that Ali M why sh influences you'll see things like certain context like certain words have been

popularized okay P the five pure Souls referring to Ali and his family and the prophet sallallah alaihi wasallam and these people are infallible once again a Shia concept we believe them them to be amazing people but we don't believe them to be protected from mistakes and error they're human beings best of human beings but human beings what did say we do not excessively love one over the other companions right so this once again a Shia influence right you will see things like let's take another

example of of a Shia influence look s Ali is an amazing individual but when we amazing personality within Islam one of the greatest but when we use terms look in Arabic the lion of Allah who does this refer to in the Arabic literature it refers to Hamza who does it refer to in our culture it refers to Ali right once again I'm not saying he wasn't a brave he was a brave individual but why did we even have this title like this straight away in uru comes from the Shia nuances okay so we already have a certain amount like people refer to Ali

as M Ali I'm not saying there's anything necessarily wrong with that but that kind of style came to us through the Shia culture I'm not saying by saying M Ali you've become a Shia but I'm just showing how it's come in these nuances okay so people have this whole and they [Music] say that the truth is with you know you know they use these kind of words like

like number right Ali number in what Ali's first number in what in the they're saying he deserved it better thanak andman this is this is part of the Indo Pac culture they've got these kind of Shia nuances without even knowing about them that's one issue the other issue and this is an important one why do people feel the need to criticize uh uh to do these things fine false people struggle with ambiguity and this is a very important Point people I want you to focus on this people think that over the time Islam is awesome but

over the time why did it get messed up why why why were all these things why is Islam like why did it get so messed up so their answer to this is ah it got messed up because there were these villains and these bad guys who got the upper hand and oppressed the good guys and this happened right throughout history they oppressed the good guys so in their mind they can only handle good guy bad guy scenarios they can't handle ambiguity to them there has to be a bad

guy in history so I know muawiya was the bad guy bani um were the bad bad guys and oh the the good guys were all these great the family of the prophet and they were the good guys and Islam would have been totally awesome if it wasn't for these bad guys people this romanticized very ficticious kind of dramatized version is not reality this is not how the world was there's good and bad everywhere right this but this makes people digest things because they can't cope with why Islam suffer why things happen so they need an

explanation so psychologically they it makes sense for them that oh there was a bad guy and there was a good guy and the good guy suffered and the bad guy look today Muslims are still suffering see Islam always suffers ah the good guys the bad guys this scenario is because people can't handle ambiguity but they need to handle ambiguity right so this is another important significant Point okay on why why a lot of people think it's important to find faults with the

companions the other thing I want to get at and this is a really important as well question which I'm putting out there and there is a bit of seriousness to this I mean there's seriousness to all of this but especially what is your endgame what is your endgame just tell me what your endgame is where do you want to go with this let's say for a moment I accept let's say we accept it hypothetically let's accept it mua was a villain he was a villain okay he was a

villain Zu T they were Rebels they were Rebel Zu died as a rebel they died Allah we're not sure with AA the wife of the Prophet was a terrible person for fighting Ali do you know they don't stop here read the same re do you know what they say about mua I'm sorry young people parental advisory right so you might want to if there's any young people watching this they might want to skip the next few minutes they say mua's mother this is in the same those historians transmitting this muawiya's mother was the most well-known wh and prostitute of mcah this is what they say hind was the the

big of Makkah this is what they say about her right okay let's accept it they say the wife of the Prophet mu's sister was the daughter of the biggest and prostitute of mecah okay let's Okay this is what they this is what is transmitting this right so okay let's accept it they say who the prophet sallu alai wasallam said about him he said people have entered Islam they have

embraced entered Faith what do they say about him they say his mother was the cheapest of mecah she was the cheapest and cheapest prostitute of Makkah they say this this is in the books Google it it'll come right up okay let's accept it is this what you want from you want from us to accept this accept it go on accept it right we accept all these people people were totally messed up hypothetically let's accept it what's your end game what do you want to do now what what you want to do with this so Zu and the you know people so close to the prophet were messed up and T was messed up and

Abdullah Zub was messed up and uh mua was messed up and who fought with muawiya by the way Ali's brother ail fought with him against Ali was messed up and uh Bin's son fought abdan fought with mua against Ali he was totally messed up deviant the son of fought and died with mua against deviant deviant misguided idiots this is what is this the okay let's accept this let's accept this hypothetically we accept it right all these people deviant idiots pathetic stupid right wrong

villains Judas traitors right sons of and everything why let's accept it now what what now what do you want us to do now what what shall I do now what shall I do the only thing that follows from that is while saying well okay well the prophet surely you know the prophet didn't make a good choice in keeping good companions did he I mean this is what Imam Malik said he said what's the end game because this just means the prophet made a bad choice in who he kept as companions this is what it mean like think about it if if if I have

companions now my friends and then somebody says to me oh you know what his friend that guy's just a con that guy's a thief that guy's a cheater that guy's a a murderer that guy's a this that guy's what does that say about me what does that say about me people say that the not people we believe that the prophet Sall alai was was the most wise the most wise and the prophet obviously had according to this had idiots around him had con artists around around him had murderers around him had Rebels around him had idiots around him had his wives they were this this is what it leads to okay now what now we

accept all of this and we accept the prophet then had these people as his companions now what what shall I do now what shall I do where do I go with this okay I've got it now well Islam sounds pretty pathetic to me now you know Islam came through this Prophet you're saying all the people kept close to him turn out to be really wretched right they're the people who transmitted this Dean I find how Worthy is Islam does it make any sense to you do you want to follow a faith do you how much trust do you have in it

now right so people say oh I want to bring my children up on knowing the truth I want to teach them the hatred of muaah and the Companions and what kind of nonsense you want to bring children up on hatred of historical figur is what does look at not look at read his fwa after y yib who came to London and he did that thing it's on YouTube you know I don't want to repeat how he was insulting the wives of the Prophet what does say he said it's Haram what he did Haram this

is he said it Isam to insult that to insult the symbols of to insult he said why he said because it leads to hatred and blood it leads to disunity and Discord in this um that was he's a Shia I disagree with his Shia point but hats off to I salute him for that my issue is not with the Shia look yes I disagree clearly with the with the Shia I'm not saying that but the Shia at least clear on what

they believe they say okay we disbelieve in these things the problem we've got here are people are trying to spread this hatred under the cloak of Sunni Islam this is why it's unsettling people it's it's hurting people because look let me get this right look let's say and I'm not trying to pick on groups here but I'm giving this as an example because the reality let's say you're a hanfi many of you are now why do people have issues with some of the salais the caes come to the hanafis and they will say oh you know if you were following Imam Abu hanifah

truly then you wouldn't follow a maab so you're not following IM Abu hanifah I'm actually following Imam Abu hanifah now that it's it's agitating because you're telling the person that their narrative is wrong look you see whereas if the salafi just came and said look I don't follow mhbs you follow mabs I disagree with you you disagree with me now they're not going to discuss that with each other they know where their boundaries are but the moment the salafi says to the Hani oh you're actually wrong in your claim that you follow Abu hanifah because Abu hanifah would actually say you shouldn't

follow maab now that is unnerving that's unsettling that's agitating that's irritating you it's going to cause friction you can't you see when you do things like that it causes a problem so when people come to sunis and say oh you're not really being a Sunni to really be a Sunni is to hate muaah or this is Sunni Islam it's not Sunni Islam that's Shia Islam now I haven't got a problem with you being a Shia but be honest I totally hats off seriously the um name the brother khim Sharma from from Canada I believe he's from

Canada this brother I clearly know where he stands on these issues I knew that look I've liked the brother before he's liked me before but on these issues we do not see eye to eye right on this issue of muaah and so on but the person said look he said look at the end of the day mu AB is just saying what im Malik and what position now why are you trying to impose what is in essence a Shia position on a sunah why don't you just be honest that look we hold a Shia position nobody has a problem with that that that that look be

transparent when there's Clarity we won't get into argument because I know your view towards you know in Shia Islam they believe people are infallible in Shia Islam they believe and Shia yes they disagree amongst themselves as well as doah so some of them do not curse uh any of the companions like I quoted like some of them do not curse them but they prefer Ali and they and they have issues with mua but we are not going to discuss that now because I understand that they have a different viewpoint but when somebody starts saying hey I'm teaching Sunni Sunni Islam but then starts teaching Shia

Islam it irritates people because it's you're lying it's not true all of these people I quoted they said just because you say mua was wrong he was wrong in his it's Haram to mention mistakes about blemishes about him so be honest don't try to forge this diversity there isn't this divver what you're trying to do is create a hybridization between the two they're too Stark look so it is not and I said in my last show I was asked I said I do not believe people ask me do you believe sh I said I do not believe the sh I do not believe I do have strong

issues with several of their beliefs and some more than others with certain people I condemn abuse but I do not blanketly call people kuf I don't like doing that anyway so the thing is it's not about look if you have a stance take it just be brave just be honest don't kind of like cloak and hide yourself under the blanket ofah when it's not part ofah right so okay people now coming back to this right now right now you said right okay I I answered this question about ali seeking

power was that an insult towards Ali it's not an insult it was IM Malik being objective but the problem is people can't handle objectivity that's why we go back to the AA we don't discuss things we do not find but like I said seeking governance seeking rulership if you are the most deserving for it is a good thing right you might see as insulting I see as a merit if I'm most you know if there's a job here and I'm the best person for it I should think hey I'm the best person for it there's nothing and S yfam the prophet does that in the Quran right okay uh you say on one hand don't insult

sahaba then you apply Ali was responsible for the problems in history I do not imply Ali was responsible for the problems in history okay do not this is a lie what I said was that look when what I was trying to do was show objectivity I was trying to show that look from mua's Viewpoint look from their Viewpoint because if you're going to be objective you have to be objective towards everybody you can't just be objective mua's Viewpoint there is aah chain where Abu muslimani comes to uh mua and he says do you are you trying to say you should be

he says no he says are you trying to say you're better than him he says no he says he's better than me he says then what's the problem this a mu says tell him to hand over the the murderers of we have no problem it is Undisputed that people like Malik were in the armies of Ali Talib that is Undisputed when the Insurgent he happened there were about 2 to 3,000 people who rose up it was difficult to tell who was who but they were Chiefs

and there were certain known Chiefs so they say there were about approximately 200 Chiefs who had a few hundred under them like 100 200 under them and one of the key Chiefs was Malik alar why was he so well known he was one of the most fearsome Warriors feared Warriors throughout the Arab world at the time okay everybody knew knew and had heard of Malik he was totally feared so people knew about him in fact that's one of the reasons that Ali says that he kept him because he was resourceful but he was amongst the conspirators the chief

conspirators toward of the murder ofman now you can say well why did Ali keep him because Ali felt that it was more important to stabilize the matter first then retaliate mua felt felt that no he was related toan he was his blood he felt no retaliation first then we stabilize the matter this is where thead occurred okay so it's important to remember these things okay now okay so so I did not okay so just to clarify Ali I'm not saying he was

responsible for the problem they had a Viewpoint my personal look I want to clarify something they were I highlighted our towards uh towards the disputes of the sahab generally believe as I said that the differences between the sahabah based were based on that's what they believe now some believe in somebody people are always correct there is never a wrong person those people here believe both were correct most people believe that there's always one correct and one incorrect but both are rewarded so here

most of them will believe Ali was correct right now obviously there were others in the time of the sahaba who fought with mua who thought he was correct so that has existed then there's a third position and this Ahmed transmits abuy transmits other people transmit that there were over 10,000 sahaba from the early times 10,000 sahaba alive key sahaba and abuy says only four or seven of them attended this whole battle together Ahmed transmits that there were barely 30 he says 30 a minute number the majority he

says is hardly 100 rather not even 30 that was his wording now out of 10,000 right the majority almost 99% of them do not attend this battle they do not get involved right key sahab abdah you know the key Warrior is transmitted in it's inkari it's inkari he tells Ali Ali asks him join me he says to Ali if you were to jump into a lion's den I would jump in

with you this is in bukari he says I would jump into a lion's den with you he says but this fight against Muslims never and he leaves him that was he said it was Haram to sell weapons to both Sid IM Hussein who the say there was never a companion better than him in Bas he he says it was Haram to sell weapons to either side he's not involved many sahab an Malik not involved not involved many sahab did not get involved they were conscientious

objectors they felt war is always a tragedy myself I am with them I believe that in this matter generally when it comes to I'm very clear Ali was the most deserving for when it came to the decision of war the decision to fight I believe that war was always a tragedy and I'm with the conscientious objectives you cannot bully me into saying I have to pick sides why do I have to pick sides I'm not a kid this isn't a playground but we weren't there when they were fighting war is a tragedy

say in a chain he himself says at the end check this out at the end of the battle of jam in aah chain when he saw T on the who was T who was T in the Battle of when things got when the heat really kicked in and the companions ran and they left the prophet exposed the few that came thha was amongst

them he defended the prophet his hand was injured and paralized as a consequence he was murdered in that battle of Jamal when came across him he said it is so difficult for me to see

you that I see you here today murdered under this Sky he cried this was Ali he wasn't proud of that decision after s they say anything between 30 to 60 ,000 sah were murdered Ali cried and he said he said I wish I died 20 years before this day Hassan his own son said

to him and this you can look this up he said he said to his father he said Hassan was always against the war Hassan his own son was he took he stood he stood with his father through thick and thin but he was against the war he even went to war with him but he was against it he says to him he says to his father I told you don't take the armies to don't he says

says he says I did not think the matter would reach this what does Ali himself say say about those who stayed away from the fight he says about them he he said he said if they got this right what an amazing what an incredible decision they took the abstain those who abstained the conscientious objectives he said what an amazing decision they took and he said and if they got it wrong what a light mistake compared to if we got it

wrong these were the words of Ali so when it came to war war was just a tragedy it was a tragedy even when they Battle of s comes to an end why because when mu when they write to each other they say if we're going to fight tomorrow there's going to be nobody left of this umah the Roman Empire will just and this was their words they will just sweep right through the Muslims cuz there's nobody left they lost almost 60,000 thousand people the battle was so intense and

when Ali was asked oh are they in those who died he said he said they are all in Paradise they are our brothers they've risen up against us but they are our brothers so nonsense seriously W this is why it's so important to just go back and just refrain just leave it what is the end game where are we trying to go with this this thing look if this question if mua was a then what's the problem in mentioning his

mistakes b means Rebel if you say he was a rebel he rose up against he was a rebel in what matter in the matter of kasas should we retaliate first or should we stabilize first his was retaliation was more important he was related to Usman that was his personal decision we have no hack in bringing his faults that's what that's what the a said if you go back to the Anchor Point did didn't mua curse Ali of course he didn't Cur bring me aah chain that he cursed Ali now there's AI in Muslim that

he asks what prevented you what does Imam noi say what does Imam say they say this there's no Del in this that he's asking that he's telling him to curse him he's curious he's asking what prevented you I'm interested because this is way after the war he says was it because of was it because of respect was it because of fear was it because of pety was it because of your alleg what what what how come you weren't involved in in in this stuff and then he says that because Ali was an amazing individual and he had three qualities if

I one of them I would be over the moon in other words did mua poison Hassan this is ridiculous why would mua poison Hassan bring me a sah chain this is another thing during the actual battle it is not transmitted through any valid chain that mua cursed Ali not through anyah chain that we accept not Abu M and these people and by the way Abu M transmits in that Ali was cursing mu he used to curse him but we don't accept we don't accept it because we

know Ali was above that so if he wasn't going to curse him when he's fighting him why is he going to curse him afterwards so and this poison Hassan Hassan was all along he was anti-war even though he does stand side to side with his father but he was always his heart was never in it he was against because war is a tragedy he hands he makes peace and wants mua to become the leader to have peace this is after Ali has passed away why would after 10 years of that mua decide to poison him all of a sudden how what

nonsense is that right saysi in his book when he's speaking about the virtues of the sah the virt of sahab he mentions The Mention Of mu now why didn't he say the word the virtues of muaah well first of all read bukari he uses that for several sah he says and the other thing is in another section he quotes Abbas being asked about mua he asks he transmits from Abbas that oh mua used to only pray one wit not

three and what does ABB say he says he is a he is a man of he's a great scholar leave him alone this is Abbas praising him so right didn't mua fabricate Hadith this once again which Hadith has he fabricated bring them to us right has gone through all the Hadith there's there's something like apparently 136 or 130 something Hadith transmitted by muaah he not only demonstr at that were sah he brought the same content through

a different companion and then he didn't even stop there those which had rulings he showed the same rulings existed in the Shia tradition so it couldn't be made up what Hadi bring these Hadith you see one thing the companions did not do yes they fought but they didn't make it about religion right so let's not us Force religion into it right how about the mistakes of muaah making regarding his son look listen people if you're going to ask me as a person to be individ to be

Obed right I personally are a is as I said but if you want me if you're asking me look be academic be objective okay I'll be objective if you're asking me about muaah and pledging Allegiance for his son yazid I personally believe that was a mistake I do believe that was a mistake and I believe that was a wrong like it was a wrong way I don't believe he had any bad intentions and there was no way mua could know the future but and mua explains it he says if I give it to somebody else they just there going to be fighting again but

yazid you know he he was a tragedy he is asabi says you know he says what can we transmits what can we say about somebody who whose Reign begins witha and ends with uh you know the attack on Medina the Sacred City of the prophet and that's very I condemn those actions and the thing is this look I don't I don't believe those actions made him a cafir I don't believe that he was a cafir I believe he was a Muslim I believe he's answerable to Allah I believe as as people said that is a that has gone they have earned

good and bad and they're answerable to Allah I don't have to answer for them yes mua put him took the Pledge of Allegiance for him but mua couldn't have known but yes that was a mistake I accept that look I'm being on look if you're asking me what is my personal opinion I I do believe that's my personal opinion I believe that was a mistake I wish I wish he hadn't done that but I can't undo history right but look if you're going to be objective you know if if this is to be objective you could see it this is the thing people only want to be objective about mua but if you're going to be

objective about say Ali and be honest and say look him not like him allowing people like Malik to remain in his army what that that that too you would say was anadi it wasn't would you wouldn't see as correct From anad perspective but my point is that look we this is why we go back to the Anchor Point of a let's not take faults up let's not do that because once we start doing that we get too emotional people get too emotional they can't control things right so but your point if if if you

just want my opinion I've given you my opinion about yazid I but I do not call him a cfir i i i i reject that we call him a cfir I do not I do not like this kind of thing attitude at all at declaring people kuf but I do say that they were major tragedies and and and I also say that there was no way mua could have predicted this would have known that this would have happened but he he gave his reasons but I wish you know anybody but I I wish he gave it to Abdullah Zu or he gave it to you know he gave it to Hussein or he gave it to somebody Abbas or he gave it to Omar or

he gave it to it doesn't have to be the family of the Prophet you know it doesn't have to it could have been anybody who was great but obviously what's happened is happened but what's the end game what do you want us to do now what do you want like do I just sit here now like and just cry over this like what's the end game so this is my purpose okay this is my point of why Imam Malik was asking what's the end game right can there be Shia Sunni Unity you see look this is an interesting question yes they can there can be Unity there's not Unity at a greater perspective look the

truth is we are all muslim okay we disagree on these things my point here was these people why it's irritating is because they're trying to distort Sunni Islam so it's making people uncomfortable like if you like I said if somebody's a Hani or a Maliki or a Shafi and I come to you and I say well you're not really a sh if you're a shaf you'd be a Sala like it's going to irritate you but if I came to you and said hey I'm a Sala and you're a shaf okay fine you're a I disagree with you I'm a Sal you dis now we're not going to discuss those things the so Mak so Clarity does help

it helps towards Unity so if people stop trying to pretend this was this is now the other thing is look as Ayah and other people have said look don't abuse that's all because people who we hold dear they're dear to us you know people said to me Muti why have you blocked us look my loyalty to the sahaba is much greater much greater than some kind of Facebook friendship I don't even know you like you you're coming on my thing I made a request look please don't spread nonsense here you're spreading

things cursing companions saying questioning the uh the the qualities of companions your question my loyalty to them is much greater than any kind of Facebook bloody loyalty to you I I will block you in a in a Flash I wouldn't even think twice about it but look I want to make this clear to people who have been blocked I know people did ask

boy but if you are clear on your stance don't try to distort I quoted the if look just be real this is why I genuinely really respected W I genuinely respected what that brother khim had said it touched my heart actually he said look let's just be honest he said our beliefs are Sufi Shia more towards that than they are towards Sunni I mean what's the big deal he said I don't curse any of the companions W I said to him I said look you prefer Ali over them right you don't curse we don't have a

problem like you understand okay in your heart there is this history of B and this history of uh mua whatever but you don't bring it up you don't bring it up in general you don't toy with the emotions of people I love you for that man that's that look you've got a stance but you're respecting people and I respect you and this this is just be genuine and if people can be genuine if you think I've blocked you and you can be genuine you're not going to come on like my page or you're not going you know you're not doing this propaganda to attack you know some guys they're making posts saying oh people trying to defend mu all you should really be saying

is and then on their thread they were friends with me I click on it and all these this abuse towards mua and they're liking it and liking it and then and then they're commenting on my wall and I warn them look please refrain I'm going to block you and then they do it again and I block them then they get all upset look so I don't look I don't have time to answer everybody like 50 60 people on my post commenting commenting commenting I as as much as you might not believe I have a life as well so I get irritate it hurts me it does hurt me these people are important to me you know if you're insulting my mom and dad I would be yes

I would be affected these people they like my symbols ofah to me the symbols of the companions of the Prophet you're insulting them and you're telling me your religion teaches you and then on top you're telling me my religion teaches you that my version of Islam sunnism teaches you that and I'm supposed to be believing that and then you're saying hey why are you getting worked up of course I'm going to block you but look if you can be genuine and you feel look okay you can respect that and you're not going to try to distort then look what you can do is contact Muhammad Shan you've seen him on my Facebook tell him and I will unblock you and I will add you back okay I've got no quams right I'm I'm I'm you know but

just please don't expect me like you know when people are so many people attacking they were attacking me on my thing left right and I'm doing my normal stuff I might be at the gym working out and blood there's like 10 people they like jump and I can't take it because other people are getting misguided they're reading that people are quoting and look and some of you were quoting Dr Adan Ibrahim I'll be honest with you look I respect the man he's somebody who calls towards rational uh and towards reason and that's something I call towards I call towards the voice of reason but let's be honest in Hadith the man is is

not not strong in Hadith and somebody you can go to YouTube I actually wanted to play it but it's been too long today I want to play his clip he quotes a Hadith and he says and with so much confidence and there's a breakdown analysis of the exact book and page and Hadith that he quotes he says look at this Hadith he says the chain isah you could check it pure confidence check it in the books of it's check it in the books of here was abdah sitting there the prophet said oh the person that will come out from that room now will die upon other than Islam and he says and then who comes out

muam and then there's a stepbystep breakdown by uh one by he is a sopy scholar he breaks it down and he he the same book same page and he's holding the book as well he shows it he reads it he goes through the chain weak narrators weak narrators why why are you lying to people why are you just showing this just be honest look and and I want to say something here one other reason why I feel some people have taken this stance in Psychology it's what we call transference okay when you transfer something onto something look a lot of

people who call to voice and reason right sorry call to the voice of reason or call to things they have and a lot of the the Sufi orders and things like this they have a huge animosity with the copies and look I can be with you on so many issues I've passionately disagreed with the copies I sometimes can't stand the way they and I've described it as kind of theologically autistic the way they see the world as black and white and so what happens is sometimes anything that they're doing you end up opposing it so a good example is like the three

TS the three talak issue is just a issue which has got taken out of like now are so against it right people are so against it the MS why every one of the four MBS had people who said it why now because the Sala monopolized on it and championed it so now it's become so you've walked into a theological T Turf War like you don't know you think you're asking about t but what you don't know is there's a whole bloody sectarian battle going on so you go to the Masid people go z z it's so much sentiment why is it because of the

but it's mainly because of the hatred of the wahhabis and the Sala so they're transferring that energy onto the emotion onto this masalah it's the same thing now because the salafia have stood up up passionately in defense of mua some people who can't stand the Sala right what they've done is taken an opposing stance people Allah says in the

Quran when you have animosity with people do not let it prevent you from being just credit where credit is due I disagree with the salafia passionately on things on a on all these I even mock things at times I get into trouble you know people will have a go at me but let's credit where credit is due defending the honor of a companion that it doesn't mean just because they're wrong in certain things they have to be wrong in every single thing they say Allah is one that doesn't mean they're wrong in that so look sometimes this has also led to this animosity against the and also like I

said earlier on the fact of they having to be like some villain in history which leads to which leads to why Islam has messed up but I do believe there can be Sunni Unity especially if there's Clarity and there's no abuse there can be okay this is interesting because look I've been asked about this Hadith of the Prophet saying I leave my family and I leave the Quran but Imam Malik transmitted as I leave the Quran and my Sunnah you have to understand people who keep saying Ali is with the H and the H is with Ali I asked them look why where

is the F of the family of the Prophet if we're supposed to be why do inah the family of the Prophet we love and respect them but they don't hold a centrality within Sunnah they're not like where is Islam being transmitted from them show me in your books of people say the H is always with Ali then why don't you follow him in why is your m not based on Ali you follow the maab of abif Ora or Malik IM Malik's m is mainly based on Omar

andar Ali let's say if you're Hani Ali used to say you could combine between prayers do you combine between prayers you don't follow is with Ali Ali said oh you wipe over the top of the socks the Malik wipe under the bottom of the socks they don't say the H is with Ali on that you see this H with Ali had a context to it didn't mean every single decision in life had to be divine otherwise everybody would just be following the of s Ali but they don't even in his time people had disagreements with him over F issues it's known in fact I've got the encyclopedia I've got an encyclopedia

right here for the people don't follow it amongst his rulings he was very harsh against apostates very harsh about burning them people strongly would would you agree with that today would you agree with it homosexuals about burning them would you agree with that so the truth is look this H Ali is just a distortion it's a it's like a a Shia extremism and going back to let's go back

to we do not excessively focus on one we love the all right we do not become extreme in our love because as the Arabic proverb says when you love something excessively it blinds you it blinds you and it deafens you from seeing certain things right right so and this last question about bani being oppressive look the thing is look I'm not here to defend history right as my right hand is a reverse camera in case you're going to start that

nonsense I'm not here to defend and B right but the point is look they were good and bad everywhere there isn't this history okay let's look sorry to disappoint people this is what you know what Imam Z Shak says if you're going to talk about history you have to take your Iman vitamins you're going to have to take some quickly stead up juice up on those Iman Vitamins because I'm going to just very in in just a few seconds run you through some history yes but during muawiya's time there was stability for 20 years he ruled as aifa or as a if you want to say a king then many zabi all these people say he was

the best King in Islam that's what they sayl right now there was stability when he ruled but after him I'm not defending all of bani there were some people who were great people Omar ABD other people did some good things some bad things but who else let's be real in 131 hij bani come to an end who do they come to an end by the Shia is it not the Shia the Shia was a political movement first who were B abas who were the abids the abids were the because they were the children

of abas who was through b Hashim they were the sh Ali Abbas ABB they were with Ali this was the sh Ali they kill theads and get control 131 132 H they are in what saf who is from the great grandsons of Abdullah Abbas what does he do when he comes in massacr thousands of people who tell me what what do they then start doing they then start persecuting the Alo and the F they they are Ali and then they turn against those who were closer because they might have

a closer claim to the kingdom so they start persecuting the the F because they think you know what we've got got control now we got this on the back of this Shia claim but now Shia being the political Shia in the Shia of Ali against the umad but now uh these guys are closer to Ali than us so let's kill them off first this abids who kills Abu hanifah who poisons him in prison the abids Abu ja mans who has muawiya whipped the abids who has uh sorry sorry mua IM

Malik who has Imam Malik whipped the abids who has Ahmed hbal beaten the abids right so what greater good did they do than theats and history was documented in their time up until 131 H where are the books of History they were documented in the abid's times who were from the Shia okay let's get closer still what about when the actual descendants of FAA the fa establish their Kingdom in Egypt and all these people and their Scholars and and they have instate the over North Africa what they torture

people there's reports brings in skinned people alive of where where was this oh the F were just as terrible who tell me who was so good throughout Islamic history so if you're going to say yeah but the abids had some goodness to them they did of course they did everybody had some goodness harun Rashid did some amazing things but tell me did not the ofus do great things ABD became the in his time the most established and Powerful Muslim Kingdom on

Earth the the Christians of the north of Europe used to come and pay gifts to the Muslim world everything flourished in his time he set up an the Iberian kind of Muslim empire Muslims had honor immense honor was that not was that not good it was good as well so look there's good and bad in all people okay so I'm not here to defend but what I'm going to say is look there's good and bad in all people and it's people did thead and they did you know and and look I'm they

were tyrants but what do you want us to do Islam didn't come for us to get caught up in history Islam came with a message to live life that it may flourish wherever you are let's take let's not be trapped in our past let's focus on the present with our aim at the future okay and if we can do that inshallah we can take things to places because I tell you w if you focus on all your is I just want to bring up my children on the hatred and I said this and somebody tried to criticize me I said if any any religion that teaches

you hate is no religion at all and they said well oh that's not true Allah teaches you murder is wrong and this is hate this and hate that no but Allah teaches you right and wrong and as a byproduct you hate what is wrong but you don't hate the doer right you hate the action and you definitely don't do it in a religious preaching manner you teach people the hatred of individuals that can't be a religion from God but if you want to bring up your children like that then I swear I can swear by Allah that you see if not in your own lifetime they're definitely in your children's

lifetime the true challenges that are being thrown at Islam about questioning theology about questioning ethics morality it's clash with science all these things I guarantee you many of them will lose Faith anyway they will struggle immensely with their Iman so let's not get caught up in the past look at the verse of the Quran that is a nation that has gone it has what it earned if it did wrong it is against it you will not be asked

about what they did okay we right it is a blessing to be part of this umah let's not you know and and we really need to grow out of these bullying tactics let people be man let's let people be inshallah so right all right thank you that hi so right people with that I think I took up so much of your time today I'm ever so sorry and I'm shukan for being patient with me hanging in there I really needed to clear this up you so many people were just going on about this and I really just needed to put this out there I'm sorry I couldn't get to your personal

questions I will do so next week definitely right once again if you want to know what I believe I've answered them the book uh Lacy all those books Yep they're real they're real so right so the thing is look yeah so I will get back to them if you want to reach out to me personally you can inbox me you can add me on Snapchat it's malm mm 2014 malm for those of you wondering stands for Mu AB Maliki but the thing is malm 2014 right you can add me on Snapchat you can message me there I do try to answer questions and inshallah I

do hope look I want to add as well not out of just just to be clear that if you have any questions about what I've said it's in there you can go back to the Anchor Point I and I ask everybody look just leave this thing of abuse it gets us nowhere okay it spreads disunity we're going through some huge challenges Donald Trump is imposing some ridiculous anti-human right laws right now uh you know they're being challenged thank God by some samean people Merkel and other people have deemed them as well you know certain uh people of power and positions have have said they you know contravene

human rights going against the Geneva uh code and things like this so people you know people suffering so let's let's get our priorities correct okay people inshallah so I'm going to leave you to it take good care of yourselves I'll see you next week inshallah till then remember me in your duas have an awesome night or evening or day wherever you are in the world inshallah right take care bless