Mufti's Meetup! Valentine's special 🤣

all right people um what is that's the discord server that's to be launched this coming week

as part of the memberships program with the patreon and the ensuing youtube memberships as well so people people people [Music] right what is going on so what i'll be doing is sharing um i'll be sharing the link for you guys to join up i just want to check can you guys all first of all

it's always worthwhile doing an audio check ese can anybody even understand me can you all hear me so let me just check what's going on people i see you all in the comments you do shaji saba chai guevara you doing it you doing it right

people what is going down what is going down now let me you know what since it's valentine's you know so what i'll do is i'll share out the link first spread the love now is this the link it is indeed um that's the stream yard link right there i'm gonna bring it up on here you can see it there is i've put it in the comments that's to join you do when it you do and it people you're doing it so let me just check here what's this

you know because i only use this once a month i keep forgetting all right people are price going down so you're doing it people you're doing it right now let's go back to the comments since it's uh a special the below oh somebody said my fresh trim

i you know it's it's this is the demand you know the demand of the janta the public but on this joyous occasion let me share with you all an arabic allah an arabic uh old it's actually one of them wash a heart from andalus and i've got one with the english translation i don't know if i'm gonna have to cut this out later on because if youtube flags it up then i'll have to obviously crop it but for now people you can enjoy

look at this alright what about how does that work [Music] this is the landlord's people back in the days granada alhamdulillah right there and this was written by abu zahr sorry this was written by the famous ibn zahar who i've spoken of when i

uh spoke of ibn rushd the philosopher it's from that era and this is from the masha hat the poetry of andalus muslim spain that they would often spend their evenings pondering over so people what is going on i have shared the link um so what is going on man what is going on somebody said look good idea for a valentine's song i i i really like these martial arts you know occasionally i get distracted time to time but upon occasion maybe a couple of months will have passed by

and you know i'll sit down and i'll listen to them again and you know it just takes you away into this world so right so people what is going on all right we've got quite a few of you already on the stream alright people i've shared the link i'll share it again as well i might as well have it saved here actually on my there you go on my clipboard so i'll share it time to time let me bring some of you in

first of all azerati you're [Music] what's going on chef how are you i'm good check you out huh driving and chatting yo please uh ignore the the thing is uh yeah i like it what is that this is like a leaf dangling is it like a tree growing inside your car is that a kanji kanji plant that you're growing right there

no it cannot be disclosed so what is going on azerati man talk to us how's it going sheikh how's the how's everything over there how's the lockdown it's i mean things are good the lockdowns doing my head in now but it is what it is and i mean you know what can we do we're just waiting i i've now finally decided you know what i need to start doing some home workouts and i've got hold of some machines and i mean some some gadgets to kind of work out a bit and i've ordered some stuff but i don't know how long that will take to arrive but it just it's still in my head in honestly i'm

thinking for god's sake yeah so what about what about you over there well it's uh yeah it's still locked down here in uh in uh in i'm in uh toronto so it's it's still locked down um for another i think one or two weeks so uh yeah uh same old stuff but you look you always look fine uh here you're like you know always fit and fine alhamdulillah this is because you know they say this is like another hope you're looking with this eye of love so you see good things well i'm going to let you drive safely as a rottie i don't want you to to crash that maserati that you've got

one small i share for you chef for valentine please this is like he's just thrown a huge like that's just everest

he just threw at us he's like yeah catch all right let you go inshallah i'll talk to you shukran man asaraty will catch up all right people that was aserati about to just crash his maserati right there so i thought look let's be safe people you know you shouldn't drink and and watch and and drive you know you might spill it you know this is you should always one should always take care of their drink and so um what is going on mariam you're doing it you're doing it look at that

so someone's name look at the setup right there but up us why are you looking that way i'm using my my phone as a webcam can you hear me properly by the way i can by the way it is absolutely loud and clear crystal whatever you want to say say it you are if you need to send out a distress

signal just go for it i think those are especially needed on this blessed occasion of valentine's day for our single people i guess so true so true so great where are you joining us from by the way mr kim i am from botswana do you know where that is catching you out here do you know where botswana is of course of course of course of course masha allah all the way from botswana are you born and raised in botswana hell yeah hell yeah but i guess you could never guess what my ethnicity is i would have you know what i was just gonna stereotypically assume

that you were indian but i now that you said well botswana and i'm so i'm trying to figure out what could it be what could the ethnicity be so i'm confused i'm not a i'm just going to make a fool out of myself by trying to guess things you're exactly where i want you because that's usually what i want to do exactly so as exact as i could be well so what's go go for it man so here right here i is right here so mufti i've been following you forever alhamdulillah i finally got to talk to

you in the flesh and we've been speaking on instagram every now and again so of course i'm i'm i'm i'm here for you i'm here you know people you it's people like you mustafi your love your support your appreciation uh that keeps me going you know it kind of encourages me serves as a a an impetus to keep moving forward so shukran shuklan for that but yeah do what were you about to tell us yeah okay well first of all just to build on what you said i was speaking to sheikh madhar not too long ago

mahmoud who was on oh right okay okay yes of course yeah he came on to my podcast as well and i think we might have we might just as well title that episode the muftiya bulath episode because we mentioned your name a thousand times wow one of the things send me send me the link man i'll i'll check it out and put a shout out to it definitely it's not live yet inshallah that will be released maybe next weekend but i'll definitely send it to you yeah so he was saying that he is absolutely mind boggled at the fact that you can keep laughing at your detractors the way you do after all the the crap that they put you through it's

truly amazing and it's an inspiration for the rest of us you know what happens look in the end you see it really just boils down to how we react to certain circumstances you know there's things which are devastating which you know that's the end of life and there's things which may be sad or shocking or but they're not the end of the world for that person then and you can't control them so sometimes in life some things will happen that you can control and some you can't so then it just depends on how you react

to them that will really define your experience and you know those moments for you and with things like this you know people going on saying all kinds of nonsense this is this is just nothing you know it's just hot here and and the way i see is look you know at the end of the day uh i said to one of somebody once he was going on and on and on this is maybe about um he got obsessed with me a while back this was about uh two years back and he's going on non-stop non-stop and i said look this is not gangutely by the way no no no no it's not uh gangutili has been obsessed in a

different way as in he'll make video clips but that this guy that got obsessed was every single day making a facebook post about me every four months until all and he's just a regular but until all his friends were like pleased for the love of god can you stop obsessing off of but i even said to him that look whichever way you spin it at the end of the day the discussion is still about me you know so i said like you know bring it i mean this is good i you know i don't i see as no press is bad press you know if you're just going to talk about me all day

maybe somebody from your whatever 100 listeners may actually think well actually you know what let me check mufti out and and maybe you know i actually like him so yeah that's it man and life's you know it's too short to be caught up with in these tragic side affairs it's better to laugh it off that's what i feel anyway i mean it you do it's ironic you know i was thinking about this the other just just yesterday i don't know what i was watching um somebody said in the there was a clip where the person says you know like well i can't just laugh all the time like a

mad person and you know and i just thought that it's funny how we relate a sense of persistent consistent laughter with insanity you know that's just so you know if you just ponder over that it's so profound that we associate a state of like just elated blissful laughter if it's persistent and consist like if it's uninterrupted with insanity because we assume that nobody normal will be able to pull that off

and and i i think that's it just hadn't you know for it kind of took me away just thinking about it so but yeah shukran i appreciate um you know your your your words your encouragement it means a lot and i am going to take more of your character into stride multi because you won't believe this but with my podcast can you guess what the most controversial thing that i've put out has been so far you'll never guess it because and i don't want to bring down my own country of botswana but this is how far back we are i posted a clip um have you heard of sheikh ismail kandar

okay he's from south africa and recently he started working with japin as well so he's hanafi but he's not like those dear bundys like he doesn't make the clear of dilbard and all that actually he went through a journey he used to be hanafi then he was salafi then he was jihadi so he went all the way around then now he's a hanafi but more in line with yourself i would say but anyway in my podcast episode with him we were having a talk about orf about culture and he said yeah you know wearing the topi or the kufi whatever you call it on your head it's not you know something you have to do it's a cultural thing i posted that on a whatsapp group and i got messages at 3am in the morning

saying that you are causing division in the ummah you should think about the unity of the ummah and all that sort of stuff for so far something as minute as you know not putting a hat on your head people ready to skewer me so they're not ready for season two because the things that sheikh madhar said and by the way i've been posting all i mean poaching all your guests i've been poaching celt islam momo has come onto my podcast so you're more than welcome you know it's look spread the love spread the connect i mean i i feel that you see one of the best things people can do is really just just connect with each other you know like

you know this verse that we made you just so you may come to connect and it's interesting that you know that you say that because i i'm very happy and to me that also is in a way maybe maybe some of the guests are already very popular but there's many guests who also may just be kind of rising in their own way and and in a way it's my giving back to them for sharing their time with me that they also go to other platforms as well and kind of connect with other people and so yeah it's all

um i think this is the it's you know this kind of stuff because i've had one two other people say this to me as well that by the way muffy you know like i've seen this and then i've been approaching a few of your guests and i've thought that that's epic man like go for it please do because uh you know it's it spreads further that that message absolutely and yeah it's um it feels like a family and it's very cathartic to connect with so many people in this way i should say to see islam for what it truly is in a way instead of seeing it as a cult as it's made out to be yeah unfortunately unfortunately

that can be the case with uh with religion with a capital r with a big dean with a a big d you know it can be unfortunately like capital capri institutionalized religion can rob people of its spirituality but yeah but shukran mustafi i appreciate it and do uh stay in touch uh you look like a the kind of musician type i have to say i don't know if that is just the vibe you're giving off but you look like somebody had mentioned as well like the guitar like you've got a guitar there and you're at it and i'm thinking yeah man

you've got that whole vibe going on is that is that there's like a deafening silence ah mr team's gone off here look at that i think we might have uh oh no you're back so have i come back yeah you're back about sorry about that i think it was the no no no internet so yeah okay you mentioned music interesting interesting yeah now interesting thing about music can you hear me yes yes i'm i'm hearing you loud and clear lagging behind

nope you're absolutely with us there's no no none lag behind the caravan so with music i used to be a punk musician a punk guitarist when i was in school and then i became a tabliri and became music as haram blah blah blah blah blah but then recently after listening to you and sheikh madhar and interviewing celt islam i decided i'm going back to that so i guess this is um uh a symbol of going back to my roots doing it man punka hey looking at me punk huh you talking to me you're doing it it's been awesome for sharing your thoughts take care of yourself and we

will speak soon man cool so all right take care man much love people that was muslim right there um epic some great words of encouragement let's get on some other people arrive at a few people waiting already look the studio is full people it's obviously valentine's ramio

[Laughter] people that's the can muslims celebrate valentine's let's get that let's get that off let's get one of you on here who can i see here where are you uh assalamu alaikum how are you i'm good little ham what about you what's going on yeah i'm good uh i'm pretty good uh a lot of homework you know uh the times are obviously rough you know um just working working my way out of the bubble you

know okay so that's like the college here in the uk okay so like exactly honestly so we're in canada so like we have uh exactly so we have grade 11 grade 12 high school years and then we have new colleges exactly yeah that's peace yeah all right so all right what is it you um what is it you study uh so obviously i'm taking so far high school right we have all like our courses and stuff like this so um

i'm taking all the sciences right now i'm still deciding what to do in the future i'm still lost you know i i still don't know what i'm supposed to be studying maybe engineering i don't know who knows in the future yeah i think you know i think one of the um it's a uh i don't know i don't know i don't know whether it's to say assad but it's it's a bit of a um disturbing i find it anyway disconcerting um this phenomenon of this age that there's an expectation on young people to know exactly the plans for their life

like they would be like what do you want to do tell me exactly the the the kind of the map like i'm gonna like you said i'm gonna i'm going to get into engineering i'm going to become this i'm going to do this but they want you to know that as kids i mean i didn't have a clue what was going on in my life when i would have been probably your age and i just think you know when people say oh i want to be this and they're so sometimes sure of it and i think is that because they are sure of it or is this because it's kind of been fed to them that this is how you're meant to know things already you meant to know exactly yeah

i just find it quite disconcerting yeah yeah i'm thinking of uh let's see like get down like some sort of i don't know some sort of secular degree or more or less a business engineering some sort of degree my dad obviously wants me to become like an engineer in the future and later on i'm thinking of uh you know studying the because me personally i love the abrahamic fates right so i'm thinking of i'm studying koenig greek on the side as well so by the time when i hit my masters inshallah one day if i do stay alive you know um i'm thinking of uh come on chad man if we're gonna get us what 16 17 year old talking about whether you know if he lives long enough come on how are you gonna

make all the old people on here feel how are you gonna make us feel we're like yeah what's this guy on about yeah so so yeah i'm thinking yeah hopefully uh i'll try to learn uh hebrew greek aramaic or try to master that oh you know um in short because that's that's my main thing you know uh christianity judaism islam you know probably maybe a professor in religion who knows in a couple of years look at that people chardman aiming for the stars huh not selling himself for sure exactly oh shadman i think that's amazing man epic epic were there any questions or anything i actually have uh

just one question um so uh personally right do you think it's acceptable to be taking narrations from biharis do you ex like for instance right imran ibn khattan who's like a famous transmitter inside bukhari right have you seen i just put a clip up just yesterday on this on youtube from from the or this i'm not i haven't watched it okay i just put it up yesterday it's called uh um it was called hypocrisy in sunni hadith methodology and it was it was about this it's only about five minutes four minutes but it's about imran and it's about ibn hajjar and the

bukhari thing and so but okay i mean so i mean just for other people as well do watch that when you get a chance it goes into this so the yeah so you know you have people like ikrama yav raj as well who's a famous transmitter from abu hura right you're openly like that's there are some transmissions right which i believe she quotes it as well uh that you know he had these hardy tendencies and stuff so do you think uh do you think it's it's possible do you think it's find like acceptations from them or that's meaning my question right there yeah yeah you see the way i see these things is that

you see to me the mutton comes first and then the senate so i'm not saying every single thing a person who is a liar or is a criminal says must always be wrong it's not you know even like you could get a serial killer but he could make a statement which is still a factually correct statement now you see so it's not about the the sanat is secondary the mutton is primary so we're going to look at what is the

content of what is being delivered by this person that is in this chain if that clashes with the three with reason or with the quran or with islamic principles then it is immediately rejected if it doesn't and it's harmonious with whatever is already established you know like let's say for example if one of these extremists judges he says something like you know you should give in charity yeah now there's nothing wrong with that because that's you know in the quran anyway and we know that is an islamic principle so there's no there's no problem with that but if he says oh you should kill the apostate and we

don't have this in the quran in fact it goes against that then we got to be oh well wait a minute you know this guy is already a violent extremist so he's he's narrating something about extreme violence it's highly suspicious because so this is this is how i approach um you know these kind of hadith it's all about the content and the chain is secondary we will look at the chain as well but it's secondary if the content is is complementary to the the established points then it's not a problem you know even if even if somebody is

massively problematic but he says something about you should smile because smiling is you know good and fine i mean there's no problem in that because that's not we already know these good things it's not a problem so that's how i hope that explains yeah shed some light yeah yeah perfect uh it's just lasting um so so it's interesting all right uh the narrations to do with um homosexuality right killing them right you find the narrations you find them meaning ibn imagine stuff right i don't it's interesting all of them come through it's very it's very and then the ones which say that ali burn apostasies and stuff right

they all come through this about what's interesting even if the the incident of the slave girl right the prophet sallallahu alaihi i'm allegedly forgiving the the the the the the murder of some sort of slave right the slave girl right it all comes through as well so i'm pretty sure what you just said is correct i mean like if the thing is supporting their own motherhood we have to be like very cautious of their transmissions here oh 100 that to be fair they state that in the usual hadith books anyway they say that is but the problem is that they still have

um a sense of double standards sometimes some of them so like bukhari transmitting from imran and my point when i in that video was that it's not so much about bukhari in that particular hadith my point was that i you see the extract was taken from my clip on earrings and so but i further we've had this cut out once again because it's just about five minutes when i'm speaking about hadith methodology so in that clip on earrings i'm quoting how

imam hassan and imam hussain they they used to wear earrings and hussein would wear it in both ears and and in fact he would we he would have the bottom the lobe and the top kind of pierced of his ear so uh but this is transmitted in shia sources is transmitted by imam jaffar and other people and i mentioned that some people may say well you know we're not going to accept that because it's a shia transmitter and this is where i was highlighting the hypocrisy that look we have like there's a blanket statement that we won't accept because it's shia

but then i said but we will accept imran iv because because bukhari has accepted him so what we're doing is just saying well you know here is a person who not only was happy with the murder of ali radhilan but he glorified it with poetry and so and he was known to remain persistent upon his glorification of the killing of ali up until his deathbed so how can we like i and i gave the example that imagine there was a narrator who did this about omar how omar was murdered

so let's say there was a narrator who said oh it's really good that omar got murdered and he got stabbed and he deserves him right and he's like sunnis would never accept from him in a million years so my point was why would they accept it from somebody who's glorifying the murder of of ali and i said that this is obviously a uh like what you're doing is you're instigating you're kind of like you you're obviously triggering the shia because this is what you're saying is you know like this we would never accept it but again sally we would accept it because bukhari has accepted one of his narrations or two of his

narrations but the so this is my point anyway of uh of of saying that and in the clip i kind of expand on it slightly but yeah shadman i think that's an amazing point you made man take care man stay blessed much love so people that is chad man of right i was just you know a lot of people are joining the studio so i've gotta remove uh whoever's been to to make space for more right we've got our network

what is by the way you're still on mute see the all right now now yeah you're teasing us now actually i think my back

that's but he's gone see such is life for some people huh [Laughter] ah right let's bring on we've got darth vader darth vader people what is this let's bring him on all right cabron

i'm good i'm good darth vader you got a proper setup there man what's what's going on where are you joining us from um quite local actually uk what city in the uk uh bolton bolton alright with the see this people is where all the darla rooms are in that region that little hub bolton bury a few of the others uh blackburn that's it yeah so all right man how are you keeping darth vader not bad not bad um obviously locked down for all of us

so yeah that's inside of this man i can see look at that like a keyboard in the background i can see a guitar on the other side it seems like love is in the air you got the musicians in the house today this is it man all these people writing their love songs [Laughter] so that's it it's earth angel earth angel so what's going on man talk to us here what do you have a a question or a comment or uh i want you to actually uh discuss your theory of arcana and then

moses oh wow okay sure i have a slightly go for it go for it it's more in line with the christian i guess um ideology what's the christian ideology i guess that yusuf was around at the time of um arkanatan so he was the one who kind of like was the one pulling the strings behind what was actually going on

behind oh behind uh as in he was influencing akinaton yes because okay okay okay okay there's a period of time where you've got um archangel's father who's actually going around he's have he's having this religious kind of like um phase in his life because they say his father i'm an older the third isn't it that he he it's now some evidence is emerging that he too may have had this influence on akhenaten although he wasn't full on but there were certain teachings that it seems to i was reading up recently that it seems to now transpire that he may

have been influenced by the third to some extent as well this teaching of you know favoring the artem i don't know if you've come across that part uh yes i have so he would be the king that was having the dreams i guess sure so ah right okay um [Music] right okay let's backtrack a little um so we've obviously got abraham who's coming to egypt the middle east about about 2000 bc sure sure

um so if you actually look at the pharaohs um i think it's the intermediate period um and suddenly everything starts changing there so that you've got these semitic people that have come in and have started to rule egypt and yeah as in abraham was with the hixos whether he was with them or whether he was from them

um it's most likely he was from them and they were doesn't he precede them by doesn't he precede them by several hundred years uh well that's if you subscribe to the actual dating of everything um i think everything's a bit more on the actual dates sure i mean the standard because i'm not sure which theory um you're you're going by and it's not a problem i'm just saying i'm not sure so the standard kind of theory that people have is that abraham they're putting him maybe about four thousand years ago um and the hicks thing is about 3500 around that kind of

time obviously people have moved things back and forth and even in this theory of akhenaten depending on who whether it's uh that whether it's mustafa professor what's his name um they seem to subscribe to a theory that moves them around slightly so it i mean it changes the chronology of all of these people as do like you're mentioning as well certain christians as well in their own way and certain other i mean there's a bunch of theories out there this uh but yeah carry on sorry

so um we've got um in the bible we've got for instance uh hager has a um there's a prophecy about 12 kings are you familiar with that uh about 12 kings yeah or 12 right rightly guided rulers that are going to are going to come from uh ismail okay i'm not sure about this i who and who are they going to be for example the 12.

so they would have been the um i would say the 12 the 17 the first 12 money or yeah so this would be that has to be the biggest black that you back projected it all the way to abraham no so this this would be the twelve meetings a handsome play out by the banyo meyer to whoever fought this would be the twelve kings leading up to um two in carmel i guess so arcana would have been in the last of them but i thought you said from it's my oh right so

ismail's offspring are i'm confused because ismail is in in this theory ismail is in egypt um well not necessarily he's in egypt but his descendants i i believe that his descendants were the ones that actually formed the 17th dynasty because you've got all of these semitic people that are ruling egypt because before that you had obviously you had the african or the hamitz i guess you could call them um that were there before and then suddenly you have this complete change uh in rulership um and at some point you the for instance the

snake becomes very uh prominent in like um that's uh the symbology of the snake is very very important um and obviously if abraham did come from indus valley civilization that would make sense as to why they're promoting the snake for instance as a recognition of you align with that because i i feel that obviously abraham did come from the indus valley do you find are you aligned with that as well absolutely okay you do because you start looking at the seals for instance and you start seeing for instance the moon

now if abraham was from uh in this valley then he'd have to have been from one of the royal images so obviously in the indus valley you've got the la surya once you've got the gender advantage you've got the the other one as well but so obviously if he's from the general bunch then obviously he's going to be having the moon as his symbol as as their lineage if you know what i mean that's interesting i've not really looked at that angle from the you know like the surya bunch and gender revenge kind of thing but that's interesting just tying into the you know i noticed the sun is the lord and it

is and and the moon is and it is and then you know the verses in the quran about abraham dismissing these symbols uh i i had initially but that's very interesting do send me anything you have on that i'd like to explore it i had just looked at it from the perspective assuming he was like from a brahmin kind of class and somebody who was like a priest um and he's from like a priestly household and very clued up on astrology uh and astronomy of course as well and so um this is the kind of knowledge he takes with him but okay i mean i don't look into going to that but that's interesting as

well so you so you feel he goes across because i felt he goes across and there's this meeting of east versus west you know kind of this or not versus but east and west and um he's then kind of married off to a priestess um and he i mean sarah is already a priestess but with him she's also from that civilization but being egyptian and then him going to makkah and building you know the kaaba which is then you know aligned towards sohail canopus which is also in the southern hemisphere

i mean according to hindu tradition it is uh agastya but according to the egypt uh you know egyptian tradition it is osiris uh and that's also very i found that very even you know if it's coincidental i found it very interesting if it's coincidental well i wouldn't go back east and west because the egyptians at that time the semitic people um obviously this this is going to kind of like go off track a little but um obviously if you look at the christian um like how they kind of like like to say um

population um or races formed after the flood you've got the japheths which are i guess the white people uh in the northern hemisphere um you've got this semitic people which would be the indians all the way up to um where you've got this kind of stuff we don't really need these stories today we have science and dna and genetics and we can see how the kind of genes diversify and we can see these you can definitely see there's a um a spread from india all the way

up to i guess you could say um turkey um of that same gene pool even going crossing over into eastern europe no so right so the indo-european gene pool is related the r1 uh a1 and what that gene is indo-european um and obviously it varies but the r1 splitting off but towards the middle east it's not middle eastern so middle east tend to have their own genetic gene pool but they i mean they usually that's just indo-european so the europeans and in india they share this

commonly this kind of but it's not uh it's not symmetric so the semitic is uh what is it is it the j um the haplogroup but it's it's not the only we categorize that now as a specific um group i guess um but previously going back you would probably have found that they were the same people no no no because these are scientific markers these are actually biological markers showing that these people originate like the y chromosome originated from a different clan altogether different

haplogroup and you can see that these hyper groups are not related they i mean unless you're gonna say they're related a hundred thousand years ago obviously but i mean in the in this kind of past they're not related so they they have entire entirely different haplogroups so these semitic people are not um you know but we're kind of like we're acknowledging that a particular group that we know what the dna is is the semitic people but i don't think that we can just give that label to any one particular

small group i think that's a large um what's the point of all of this though i mean moving forward so let's get back to where we were about um um um yeah so the whole story needs to make sense for instance um so we've got yusuf so we've got to fit him in somewhere um obviously he's it seems like his um time was with akhenaten um following after his time obviously you've got a revolt from the priesthood um to what arkanatan and his monotheism

was that was being preached at that time so what exactly happened then and how did these people um you know a couple of hundred years later during the time of moses how were they enslaved um was that the event that took place where the revolt took place the priesthood got the power again and that's where they enslave the people that who they would have deemed to be um the people of arkanatan for instance and then a couple of centuries later you've got moses who um comes when i think is it ramses ii

um is in power sure i mean if you sure sure i mean if you take that that version then sure and then it says men men i can't remember his name now i'm sure you've mentioned it a few times before because he's the first person to mention the israelites in history uh the the stealer that is mentioned that mentions israel yes yes and he claims that he's destroyed him which kind of like seems like a piece of propaganda and him acknowledging them at that time um shows that they have more or less split from egypt

yeah that would have been the exodus time sure sure i mean i look you know the whole i had kind of uh i was supposed to complete a lot more reading on this topic so i had the stuff and i obviously began it and got into it and then i've been distracted of you know the past few months and not really followed through which i do inshallah intend to now kind of follow through once again and and try to at least arrive at some uh at least some approximation of closure for myself um you see to me it was this

that you see when you think about it there there are certain question marks that can't be ignored um those question marks are that there was a the only proof archaeological proof we have of early monotheism taking place in egypt is you is generally with akhenaten now there are obviously these kind of uh whether the shastu people or whatever the the hick souls these people are there as well of a loosely kind of if semited origin uh they happen to be there as well and now the

theories have changed that they were not seen now as these invaders but people that had migrated and seemed to have worked their way up to power so recent evidence now suggests that you know with the when they've checked the enamel on the teeth and they've measured it up with how they they so for example the women folk that were with them were raised in the middle east and not in egypt which showed that they as they married they married women from back home and brought them over which is not what invaders do and it's not how invasion doesn't work like that like you don't just invade and then bring usually invasion works as in they take over and

take they will kind of mix like either take women and but it doesn't this seems to uh reflect a settled community so but i mean fast forwarding on so do you think that all these civilizations that that were um there at the time that you got the egyptians um you got um mesopotamians you got um obviously the indus valley you got all of these civilizations do you think that they were all i guess existing in isolation or do you think that there was actually a global community no there wasn't a global community in the sense that we understand global community today uh the world

had kind of pockets but no so they were trading of course they were trading so there's a difference between it's not that they were unaware of the other people they were aware so there was an awareness but there wasn't a sense of community um globally speaking so it wasn't that the so the egyptians wouldn't have felt that the babylonians were like them they recognized them as either adversaries or people that were the other who they may have had treaties with upon occasion but they you know to them the egyptian way was the great way and

it was the way and obviously to babylon it would have been them and to people elsewhere would have been them and so it wasn't that one culture dominated but certain cultures were elite so the egyptians were definitely elite and seen as elite as well um but one of the things i was going to say was okay so this was a key question that mose akhenaten was one of the the earliest documented monotheists the other thing is that you see uh things like about suleiman alaihissalam and are very now you know when you look at it

it's quite it's problematic because this vast kingdom that they had there's zero evidence that it was ever in jerusalem and israel unlike the muslim world has actually invested in archaeology so you see the muslim world seems to be very shy of doing archaeological digs but israel maybe to support its cause or whatever it's very supportive and they in fact what's his name um i have a book right here actually uh the forgotten or the lost kingdom but

there's several professors who've been uh doing research archaeological research for between 20 to 30 years now and not a single thing has turned up not a single thing the closest thing they found was on that tell where there was an a slight inscription of just the name david but there was nothing like no coins no artifacts no anything and and keeping in mind in every other place you do that they've been found so like in midian they found midianite kind of stuff in in egypt they found so wherever civilizations have been if you dig deep enough and you have enough funding you will

find something it's not that uh but the fact that not a single thing survived from such a vast kingdom means it can only mean one you know it can only mean a certain number of outcomes that one for example that these people didn't exist yeah two it could mean that okay maybe they did exist and i know finkelstein goes with this but they were just tiny people that were later exaggerated to be huge so hence they don't have this residual kingdom all three as ahmadusman and mustafa

gadal and these people hypothesized that maybe they did exist but they were in a different location they were in egypt and they were those pharaohs but that these people just recall them as their great kings so that's another thing they've not found him so we've got in the quran it mentions about iron being um david had the ability to um mold iron for instance i don't know if you are aware um but one of the finest pieces of

um iron i guess sculpturing is in west africa so near nigeria okay um and so there seems to be a civilization that existed round about the time of david um that was based there where are you placing david two what just i mean are you placing him three thousand three thousand years ago yeah he would he would have come after moses definitely absolutely um so and you've got a um if you look at ancient maps you've got around that

where would you place david jerusalem what modern day jerusalem yeah like where would you place david so i was placing him in west africa west africa okay okay that's very but not necessarily just west africa but if he had a large kingdom then you could imagine how it um would have come like uh i guess you could say he covered the whole of the mediterranean uh a bit like the mug rib so you got the mug rib right now like you know that whole green from egypt all the way to the problem the problem with this once again is there's not a single archaeological

finding to represent that despite despite a lot of investment gone into finding it and so it could be that you're right it could just be people just haven't stumbled upon it but that is very difficult to believe it's a very hard sell because if i said right here in these foundations were great things now if we've got the money to start digging and we do dig the whole location and we check and we don't find anything nothing that indicates that this thing ever existed here it could be you're right that you know where are you right now are you talking about

jerusalem are you talking about nigeria right i was talking about because you said it was the mediterranean as well possibly quite possibly it could have right okay okay but he's based in nigeria and he's got ancient maps that refer to that place as judo okay where why are these maps referring to this place as judah for instance um you've also got the um you know this is a totally different theory altogether you do know well it's not my theory it's just the way the evidence is really innocent um so when i'm when i'm looking at you know the quran and it's talking

about because i don't think the quran mentions anything you see iron that's a very um loose thing because you see it whether hadith here for example generally understood as a zion or metal used for the the kind of you know for protective

gear now is this so for example this kind of stuff was happening in many civilizations it's not just it was happening in egypt it was happening in a you know in the mesopotamian kind of stuff as well it was happening like there were incidents of um there wasn't obviously one great founder of you know this this how to how to make this particular it was obviously a thing that emerged now allah doesn't say we discover made him discover it allah says we made it easy for him to do this which meant that other people must have also been doing it but

struggling with it and he seemed to have a a natural knack for it but yeah okay i mean i fair enough it's an it's it's a different theory different obviously we'll have to explore you know on that note a somebody shared with me they said um i they watched my thing on akanatan and moses and the parallels and they said it's interesting that how

he explains in a vision that he appears that he has this vision at the kaaba that he sees three prophets uh prophet moses and the prophet muhammad i think jesus and they kind of hand him something but he says it's interesting that moses hands him the sun disk and and he said that you know not that he ever thought anything of it but when he watched my thing and uh and obviously akhenaten and the sun disk he said well that's just very you just thought wow okay as a not that this is proof but it's just an interesting uh you know

fact and or interesting point sorry and he just mentioned it but cool darth vader it's that's been some epic uh uh you know new mind stretching it's all about approaching that mind so sugar for sure you can have ideas and um by the way i just wanted to say something to you as well on a personal note your video on um the age of aisha man that touched me because that opened up a whole can of worms for me i always struggled with this hadith absolutism yeah and it's just got too many holes in it for me for instance and there's too much

um blind faith if you know what i mean yeah absolutely and accepting it so you kind of like inspired me to look into it so i've been doing research on that and i've kind of like found a lot of stuff um that abs what you're saying is absolutely spot on um there's no way she was six or nine she was if at the very least he was 19 and obviously there's loads of evidence to support that so you've inspired me to make a little video for that so uh watch this space oh absolutely man share any of the stuff you you have share it with me you

know i'm always keen to see what other people are doing so but yeah shukran i appreciate your kind words man and and i think it's a duty to be honest upon muslims who to defend the honor of the prophet sallallahu alaihi against these kind of insolent absurdities that people are doing in a sense of what i call a reactionary bravado but the well the world goes mad for instance um over a few caricatures right we want to boycott nations and all that kind of stuff but you you accuse the prophet of being a pedophile and you're supporting it and you're admitting that yourself

and that's that's not dishonoring the prophet i i don't get people's logic here i seriously don't get people's logic and even you know it's not even it's it's not even from a very um common sense approach to this whole discourse just looking at it just from a common sense not even looking at all these discussions and everything this notion that at the time in amalgam when the prophet is is left you know he's

passed and his uncle his social security this this kind of protection has passed and he's having a very difficult time um in this and he's got children young children at home uh and there's the profit hood mission this work you know livelihood providing trading there's uh the struggle about now he's gonna get um victimized by people who were first afraid of abu talib but now that in this time the prophet would say i know let's go and bring home a six-year-old i mean

this doesn't even it's like that's it's so absurd that this you know just from that perspective alone it would be so stupid to even suggest one of the justifications they have is um oh because she was young it's in god's wisdom right because she's only ever known him so she's kind of like grown up with all of this you know um i guess pure islam because she's only known the right path but the thing is how long was she married to the prophet what eight years ten years nine years so if she was six he died when she was 16 or 19.

according to yes so according to to this it would have been the nikah three years and then the 10 years in medina so 13 years with the prophet but you see you know this thing of saying that she only ever knew the prophet that wasn't they used that in my understanding they used that more so not from the angle of uh knowledge because 10 years is enough knowledge like you know the fact that she was with the prophet during the entire medinan phase is is enough just as the otherwise were less but they still are are huge as well 10 years when you're 20 and 10 years when you're nine there's a big difference of your understanding of what's going on the angle

the angle they're trying to come from is the chastity angle not the knowledge so when they say sh they she only ever knew him she only ever knew him as a man as in i'm referring to the wisdom of allah for allowing her to get married young so she could carry the knowledge forward for the next generation for instance yeah i think it seems i think that's how is a nine-year-old gonna understand what's going on that's a total black but i think when the scholars say that they're usually implying that she knew him from a chastity perspective that she was she never knew any other

man apart from the prophet and hence she they pushed her age so far down that this was to tackle the kind of claims that were being held against her later on in the in era so yeah and and i've have said that how it's really hisham who is manufacturing uh these hadith and he's doing it it's not i don't know it's not about evil or whatever it's do he's doing it to legitimize several things one of them is to tackle the shia uh rhetoric against ishati at the time and also to kind of further consolidate the

surveyed historical narrative which the abbasids needed because the abbasids couldn't go with the omega then they couldn't go with the ali the fatimid they needed a neutral historic narrative and that neutral thing they found in subair because he was sunni but he was and he and he ruled and he had you know he he had a huge following so his version his narrative or this lineage that's coming down this discourse it was one that would sell for the abbasids so and from him you've got obviously orwa and then hisham and hence mansur always has a very

tight bond with hisham he sponsors him he gives him you know huge financial backing and in fact even praise his janazah when he passes away he invites him to baghdad he never reports that he was born after she died anyway so how did he learn of her who who are we talking about yeah no he he hasn't met her doesn't he claim to have taken uh he takes it through orwa through aisha and he doesn't actually take much from ottawa either because his father he only heard a few things from his father as a child

and then his father's not around so he a lot of the things he says from my father from urwa or things he's heard from other people saying said this so there's that thing but i think it's not just and you know this age six and nine i think he went with that age because it what there was a floating narrative in uh in the middle east especially that kind of iraqi region with the old zoroastrian customs so there was a custom and there's been

some research on it i did try to reach out to the researcher she's german um but then obviously all this corona happened and she i didn't really hear back from her but she's done a lot of research into zoroastrian she's translated thousands of documents from um or pages of documents from old you know zoroastrian traditions and she's come up with a lot of things and found parallels that carried on in the islamic but what's interesting is one of the she she focuses on marriages and the zoroastrians had like four or five different uh marriage templates but and they were

popular and some of them were incestuous they would marry their sisters and and so on but one of them was that a person would marry a girl at the age of six and would then take her to a temple and he would leave her in the temple for three years uh and she would learn whatever the rituals and and have this chastity and at the age of nine she would have she would leave the temple and he would then collect her as a wife now this this narrative you see these even though these people embraced for the most part a lot of them embraced islam

and some of them didn't but this narrative was still free-floating and i think that's what in the backdrop hisham kind of leans in on when he takes this six and nine uh approach but this is look this is obviously just detective work you know i'm not saying this is but it's food for thought it's very interesting darth vader it's been epic catching up with you right so shukran for sharing that with us uh dearly appreciated and you mentioned the russians rasterians i came across haroot and marut being from them

so maybe you can shed some light on that sometime yeah okay that's interesting i do have something on it already but sure i'll look into into that okay cool man take care stay blessed all right thank you so much people that was darth vader doing it doing a lot of different discussions there right so

all right what is going on what is going on mufti all right people let's bring on some other people let's i know there's a lot of people waiting so let's try and let's try and keep it reasonably swift so all right dervish johnson speak the hack or stay silent

a so what's going on man where are you joining us from today arizona arizona people so yeah so talk to us man what's going on we gotta translate your your uh lectures as spanish we know that we work please please yeah i i you see send me the instructions last i checked youtube has stopped that feature and um i don't know what

but if you discover something send it to me i wanna i'm very keen on on you know having that out there in in spanish subtitles all right you can drop in all the you know pincha pentecos and all this kind of [Music] in latin america a scholar like you can shed some light because you know it's there are the mirrors of you know a lot of salafi very rigid thoughts and uh yeah they there's a lot of

brothers and sisters in latin america turning to islam alhamdulillah but at the same time they're leaving too you you lived you lived uh in latin america didn't you i used to i'm argentinian by uh argentina i was born in argentina but i immigrated to america in 2001 so i've been here for almost 20 years yeah um okay yeah anyway no i i agree with you because i think it's amazing that there's a huge world

latin america which is really kind of and it's a shame it's untapped from a deeney perspective a religious perspective islamic perspective and and the the the islamic perception that they do have of islam is one of like isis and taliban and that kind of it's a very hurried perception that they kind of see as you know people who are misogynist i don't know this is the impression i get from some of the tv very much they were having a lot of money over there and uh i think ortho will shed some light to a lot of people are caught up in the

ottoman romanticism so they kind of you know opened another window door in there but uh yeah definitely you're right so yeah and but uh yeah it's most of it most of the salafi masjids this snow like uh very rigid dogmatic sufi that's more connected with it but uh yeah i mean something uh your lectures will be very very beneficial for a lot of brothers and sisters over there they're trying to cope with their new lifestyle you know their religion just make it easy on them you know what i mean

and you know the interesting thing is that they are some parts more than others but they are a people that are still deeply rooted in faith and unfortunately a lot of faith with them has also been riddled with superstition you know there's a lot of like like whenever i watch especially the the mexican stuff and there's a lot of superstitions so much and and i feel that something like th there's also a lot of jerkin and akidan

how you have europe which is very kind of not so attached with god but they're very attached with you know the earth and the whole thing so i feel that a people like that islam would be such a you know breath of fresh air that it would have the either the iman the yakin but just if it could rid the superstition and free people from these kind of you know bad luck and this because there's a lot of this oh my god this is going to happen it's bad luck and i live in mexico pretty much i mean all my neighbors are mexican

i'm very [Music] the idols it kind of gets in the middle of the spirituality you know and the catholicism they have all this we know you know all this uh they struggle with that it's hard for them to convert to islam because it's you know their families are catholic so it's like a it's a big change for them and i think sometimes the you see it's not only a change but the salafi islam is too

uh incompatible with that way of seeing the world you know it's like it's this uber black and white hard lines and imposed on upon and and i think it's it's it's a kill you know it just kills the whole thing it's it's it's like maybe some people will adjust and others will snap it's not a yeah yeah i think the days are it's changing it's changing i mean let's color a lot of molecules and you know even you know the the teachings of

uh you know you can disagree with al ghazali or even no of course of course no i i appreciate all these things and i even if i disagree on certain points sometimes i still think these are great figures to you know to to to to to illuminate people with and to allow them to benefit from so yeah man absolutely the wish you're doing it you're doing it that's that's you're spreading this light amongst you know uh what is it amongst mexico all right

you've been for hours here you know um when it comes to creation and the nature of allah yeah you know you have the salafi view like you know the creation is separated from allah but when we talk about more into the imna arabi or more in that way it's more like the consciousness um that you talk about all the time that mother consciousness is one it's not a you know it's not separated from you know we think of a lie in our heads

and we think the consciousness is only limited to our mind but uh when we say allah when you every every place you turn is the face of allah that's what we kind of i'm getting out of like this this consciousness although you know uh hovering us it involves everything that's when i say creation in a way is not separated from allah and you know the teachings of we were talking about salafis they talk like like allah is something separated what's your take on that i like i've said that you know in recent years

in the last maybe two years i've really stumbled upon this path of consciousness and you know if you watch my things which are prior to two years i don't speak about this and i had a very different approach whereas maybe the last two years at most i've been just under two years i've got very more to this this understanding of consciousness and i do feel that now um looking at things i do feel that you know the verses of the quran in certain things are speaking about that like

allah saying that was blown into adam that this thing was talking about consciousness and look with consciousness everybody's gonna have it's it's a theory obviously we i don't know but my kind of theory is that there is a collective consciousness which is like a almost like a social network of consciousnesses but that maybe ties into a consciousness stream which is connected to god um i i so when i'm saying there's a social network

of consciousnesses i feel that there is a some at a lower level a difference so hence people are connected like they feel um you know like in the hadith when it says that they are connected but i don't look these are theories i'm learning i'm not um obviously i don't know but this really has resonated with me in the last one and a half two years um and i have felt that this is really going i don't know i could be wrong but i feel that this is going to be the future

because i feel that you know this is what is going to take people back to god it is going to be this thing and it was always there just hidden in plain sight we just never noticed it and allah says right that he's gonna be in right in front of your faces i mean the truth is in front of your face and uh that's what is happening and allah doesn't live in our consciousness we live in a lost consciousness you know what i mean some we are our last dream but you know allah knows best i'm just in a path of you know like a dervish so yeah that's it and that's the best way to be

the wish epic man much love for sharing your thoughts with us take care stay blessed gracias man all right all right people that was dervish avraha all the way from arizona doing it doing it people i know there's a lot of people waiting i just got something mufti is a theory you see akita there's a difference between iman iman this is a difference people akita is like this kind of stuff like theology

trying to understand iman is just having faith in god so faith is not theory that's faith that's iman akida is this like okay let's try how does it work then what what what you know what are the cogs and the the behind these that's allah never explained that so that's just a theory people you're doing it let me add some people what's going on what's going on what's going on people this is going to be launched very soon maybe hopefully inshallah by monday um the server on discord

mounts mindscape that's what i'm talking about people mindscape minds mind ah it says i gotta correct that mindscape people mindscape right let's get this get this off what's going on what's going on so let's who can i see here to add we

can hear you loud and clear crystal clear it looks like you're wearing a wig [Laughter] what's going on ahmed man talk to us what's going on you tell me what's going on just the usual fit and facade just spreading the love so yeah you know what last time in your monday night you brought up the um

and since then i've been like looking at arabic songs and i've been trying to see them as really interesting did you like the one i'd uh put on today this yeah i actually heard that one earlier today as well and i was looking at it this was it man it was right here this [Music] right so look i'm getting the hang of stream yards people are this is proper fun now that i'm understanding how to add videos right what i need is i need an overlay it for the back i guess and it's saying you know the backdrop saying musti's

meetup people who's on it who's on it people reach out to me who's on it you know um mufti i actually saw another one of your videos like quite old and uh oh one of the good videos yeah it was it was i thought i halloween all the other kind of videos but tk okay okay it was um it was to do with the sawtooth and um i'm actually i'm actually learning arabic but that's one poem that i haven't understood at all and it's one point from the translation of anywhere online

i've got a that's it's that poem is you know propositively very difficult and and that's the whole purpose behind it that you hear it and you're like what the hell has even said you've got to watch my i mean you have watched it the the on youtube because it's as my poem arabic poem i did learn it i uh i mean i'd heard of that story for many years but i never learned the poem and because obviously it's just a very awkward arabic poem um but i was doing a speech and believe it or not that wasn't

in my speech um i was doing a speech for a charity event and and i kind of thought him um they told me look oh you know can you speak on some topic i can't remember now or something about a legacy or something and and i had kind of in my mind i had the speech it was already you know like i knew what i was going to talk about and it was just one day before so today afternoon i can't remember i was just going across something and it came up you know this sort of sofia bulwari poem i heard it and i thought wow that's actually you know and then i thought you know what i tell

you what let's learn this and incorporate it in tomorrow's speech so i just looked at the day before i just kind of went over it and uh i had to first of all get it and understand it because it's got a lot of awkward arabic in it as well it's not normal words so i kind of found it and i've read it and checked up the meaning and and then i just kind of went over it and surprisingly it's not that difficult to memorize once you kind of just go over it a couple of times and um so the the eu has saw people and i found another version of it i'm not sure who it's written by

but um it was like uh it's the actual one [Music] that's the actual one that's the actual the other one that i played was just it was a variant um but the popular one is this one from the masha heart of london is right yeah um

yes so um that that's the i believe i'm pretty sure that's also ibn zahr's but um yeah it is isn't it yeah so um yeah these are amazing and i totally love this stuff yeah you i i actually came with a topic prepared today to ask you about oh quick disconnect we can't hear you ahmed what's going on

what's going on um i watched your mind trap with abdul majid [Music] the broken letters in some of the surahs so um you were talking about noon and how um noon you said it doesn't mean

whale right so um i wanted to talk about you obviously i'm sure you've heard of imam farah right in farah so so he had the theory that these words it's like um the chinese alphabet so you know how um in chinese the uh the letters they actually symbolize like pictures of animals or like other things like that so pictograph yeah yeah so um there's this guy called um adnan ijaz right he did uh he did some research on this and he found like all he got all of the

words and basically he saw that in hebrew these words he found the pictographs in hebrew right so for aleph like in alif he found that alif i have it in front of alif means an ox so like something powerful uh he he's drawn the picture here to show how it meant oh hopefully i can't show it to you here so um and that lamb was like the staff of a shepherd and that meme was from it was it's written like you know it's written squiggly so it's like ma it means water so alif alif lam together means like a mighty shepherd

right and meme water means a purifying water so alif god the mighty shepherd his purifying water and valley that the quran is this and so i was wondering what would your thoughts on that because obviously he would think that noon the arabs they use it to mean to mean fish so he would say that this is how we can interpret them and if we don't find their meaning it doesn't matter because they're just names of the surahs anyway that's what he says i don't sorry i don't understand the angle that so what are what are you trying to you're trying to say that look

uh these letters alif la mean you know cough and and baja and these kind of things had uh you know things from the paleo hebrew or the phoenician script that kind of stuff it was representing that it was repping that kind of interpretation for people yeah but what was that tying in with what the bugatti gate discussion i don't get it's not to do with bukhari it's just that you discussed that one topic in bukhari about noon it was just about that so okay

you see the because the the known discussion we were having was a bit different we weren't talking about the makata we were talking more so about um he was trying to say uh not known as the letter but uh non-wow known like as in that i suppose it's the letter but spelt out um like if you say h but you're spelling h a y you know c h like the actual spelling now he was saying that this meant fish in arabic and i was highlighting to him that it

doesn't actually mean fish but that is a a kind of islamic interpretative um understanding of a particular verse so when it mentions eunice ali and he's called zunun the one of noon now people weren't sure why why did allah refer to him as the one of the noon so here some people said oh well maybe noon in aramaic or noon in this meant fish and therefore this is why it's called the now from that one may understand that okay

in let's just say if you even if you went with that let's say that was true that is the case let's say that doesn't mean that people in everyday speak start calling fish noon like they don't like they call fish fish they call it stomach so that was my point that here you think abu dharr is having a normal conversation with people but he's he's using code words for like instead of fish he's saying you know the noons and why didn't you so my point was this is preposterous and it's clearly a typo but that was my kind of angle but how are you linking that in with this or you're not linking it in with this discussion

i'm not linking it in with any bugatti gate thing i'm just as a separate topic i would sure i'm just saying that what do i think of this these kind of these kind of things the cage being indicative of uh pre um you know proto languages uh sorry not proactive language of proto scripts like the phoenician script and uh or which is arguably some people say the phoenician script is the paleo hebrew sorry the paleo hebrew script is the phoenician script um you know historians argue but the

yeah i mean i mean okay i find it interesting i mean i'd you know it could be but do i think it it was categorically i don't think categorically it would be because i don't think people would have known the paleo hebrew scripts in arabia or the phoenician script i don't think people would have known that so i don't see the the point in doing that but okay i mean all we do know is it's a it's kind of mysterious yeah i mean that that's why i was saying it doesn't matter if we if this theory is wrong it just it's

just uh something of interest yeah yeah cool cool no i that's fine that's fine i think that's good oh yeah but you're doing it you're doing it right so okay anything else to to idols the another theory that you were i mean i was gonna i would like to share a poem but it's quite long so i don't know if i should are there some epic lines from the poem you want to share some epic couplets from the okay so i'll share the line i'll share the first like part right so

father very spiritual religious poetry and i like it i like it not my kind of the usual poetry that i i will look at is people like joe nilia and the great urdu you know mirtaki mirza bhalib i look at all the corrupt people this is nice clean pious poetry you're doing it you you're going somewhere i can tell you you're going somewhere

um alhamdulillah they're going well i'm actually in a lesson right now and i'm uh i'm doing this as well at the same time so hello extend our love and salams to the sheikh right there uh doing it doing it look at that at such a young age so much talent you can tell that this is going to you know he's going to make huge strides people huge strides um someone share the link here i'll share the link here i'll share the link god damn it after all it is

valentines in the words of uh okay varnaka he says you know if it wasn't for this love that has has ruined him he says he was actually better off with

god uh he's like shall i choose between god or obey and then he was like you know what i made a mistake i should have stuck with god so people what is going on we've got sami al imam al-imam all right let's bring him on people assalamu alaikum um

samia uh from canada actually toronto area look at this canada is a blessing place man so many people from we're gonna have to soon start calling it canada sharif so many awesome people connecting from canada [Music] how have you been i've been good man so you you tell us you talk to us man what's uh what what's what's happening all right so i have a couple questions here but i mean i'm gonna choose like the most like uh like a more of a ficky question okay okay so um a lot of people talk about how you're not allowed to have

muslim friends so where should i draw the line in terms of how close i think not allowed so where should i draw the line in terms of like keeping keeping non-muslim friends kind of thing [Laughter]

this is the most dumbest thing you know i was going to cover this that i watched a clip somebody sent me a clip i was going to cover it on monday nights and i will cover it it was about asim al hakeem the wise you know ask him the wise who's anything but stuff to say and so there was a clip of his where he's asked by some person that their best friend or a very good friend is a hindu or something like this and can he make dua for him or can he do this and and then he responds by saying look non-muslims

can be acquaintances colleagues uh things like this but they can never be real friends they can never be your friends and if they're your friends then you basically you've got a problem with your iman this is so dumb you know that it's so stupid and so dumb um but this is the problem with some of that um you know that kind of virus that is uh kind of being promulgated and propagated especially through this uh hard-line da'wah which is mainly selfie but sometimes even other

groups jump onto this bandwagon of this muslim exclusivity that we are meant to rule the world we are meant to you know non-muslims are kind of like they're sub uh almost like subspecies to us they are you know you never really like sure you can be kind to them but you never really meant to take them as your close friends or be you know be on a level with them this is poison toxic uh thought and this kind of ideology it's radioactive it's cancerous uh and

it needs to be clearly cut out like a person needs to tear this out and so the body can grow and heal in a healthy way this toxic thought man it's absolutely dangerous yeah but it's it's the the answer obviously it's obvious that of course this is nonsense of course you can have allah says in the quran that look we created you like this and this and made you sure obama he doesn't say that it's nas that people we made you like this so you can be and in the quran allah says

about about marriages you can marry women of the book so for example you can marry into marry interfaith marriages and allah says that you know he created your partners and he placed love between you two how can you have a non-muslim partner spouse and have love and not be you know like this doesn't make any sense the quran is saying that oh you're meant to have love and all this tranquility and all this harmony and yet these people say oh you can't even be friends you have to be pretend friends

or pretend pretend i like you you know it's like yeah this is this is a disease primarily of wahhabi ideology but other some other sects have got kind of infected with it but it's primarily a wahhabi thing about this is like basically colon cancer yeah is it like that had it died too oh yeah i mean there is no there is no alwa this is just a wahhabi thing there is

uh is for those of you that don't know it's it's basically about your allegiance and you're saying my allegiance is to allah and his messenger only and bara is that you're declaring yourself free from like you're cutting off severing any true faithful allegiance to so like like as in surat so they're saying we do bara from all kuffar and deviants and all this kind of stuff mushriks and this is just purely a wahabi thing

this is not a you know you show me anybody classically talking like this this is just pure nudge the propaganda and it's their way because it was important for them to uh to kind of recruit people on that you know that manhattan this methodology so we can go out there and take rule and um and i encourage people you know watch on youtube watch some small uh you get these small documentaries about uh the wahhabi movement and its rise like how the in fact if you look into how the kingdom of saudi arabia was made

you will see that it's all about the wahhabis and aligning with this family that then become uh and then you've got a la sheth and it's it's actually very interesting there's several documentaries on youtube they're very short but it gives you a history of okay this is how power was taken and formed so yeah this this is it's colon cancer it's it's not only a pain in the butt but it's gonna terminate your spiritual life [Laughter] so yeah people yeah that's uh

sort of take some some words for you to take away was there something else as well any other anything else you want to bounce um it's a little related um what do you say about like the not the d of the not the idea of the non-muslims being that less of that than the muslim is that a true thing the d the idea like like i thought you know the d muslims p is a bit less than i'm thinking okay is this i mean okay i'll i'll

accept on the foreskin part but but i don't think the it's fair to say the entirety this is you know what it is this whole thing is is you know real talk it's just this whole thing that the way it's presented is nonsense garbage and if i'm going to be honest it's just trash yeah uh it is a disservice to islam

it is a disservice to uh the prophet and disservice to the dean of allah that people they continue to push this ideology and even i've got a clip as well it's in my i've got a video uh it's an old one um or about i think it's about one two years old it's a reply to i think is it shahidali or something but this i think i've done about two or three to him but there's one where i speak about the the blood money because it's people have non-muslims they've obviously completely battered

them in this they've kind of robbed them of human rights and then women they say women only deserve half the blood money i've also heard that too that was like more pressing for you this is you think this is and they say even muslim they're talking about muslim women not like non-muslim they're saying they say that women deserve half the blood money of of men and that is preposterous i mean it's ridiculous there is not a single sahih hadith to support this and the the funny thing is that the actual if you look at the quran and the actual hadith which are sahih

the quran saying that look that that mu known that you are just you know you are like some of like the rest and if you look at the hadith it says um it mentions uh that believers that their blood is on a par it's it's all it's on one level this is how meaning they are as equal as each other and the if you look at the hadith um the same hadith yes that even you could take anybody even you know if you saw them as a lower person in society let's say that's how you saw

them they their vouching is as equal as the elite it's like if they vouch security or something they gave that to someone and that it has to be honored by everyone and yet just because in the past muslims just went with it because of their culture look i'm not even great imams just you know fell victim to the culture but i did note in my video how imam malik transmits transmits the other hadith and shows that look people are um because the hadith says women are just the

counter-halves of men so i said that there's no single sahih hadith you've based this on hadith and you're saying that women only like if if somebody was to accidentally kill someone let's say manslaughter accidental death that if it was a woman the compensation would be half of if it was a man that's just preposterous utter nonsense and then this thing of non-muslims look all of this nonsense is simply medieval kind of perspectives of the world that you know in that day and age they valued

uh like they valued let's say a man because he was earning money and bringing you know he was farming and he was doing these things so they saw as okay fair enough you know this was how they saw the world i'm not judging them they lived in a different day and age and in their day and age they were basing this on utility and they saw that men were bringing more utility to the household so if a man was to die the household suffered more so they gave this so they changed the rulings to to make sense of their world and they saw the kuffar as the utter enemy did not live amongst them because the

world was clearly demarcated you had muslim lands and you had non-muslim lands and they were only you know it's like some muslims in the past said the only time we ever met kufar was on a battlefield like you see to them it was the hostile other so they're like well we're not going to give them you know it's that hostile that hostility that that kind of ideology which but look that world doesn't exist now we have to look at things based on the principles of the quran and so so this is garbage it is nonsense i you know urge people not to stop

not to be promoting this kind of fatah just because certain scholars who even if they were great scholars they said this just because they lived in the medieval age and that's how they saw the world yeah so so so like do you think in the future that like more forward thinking um like like are going to come about with with a stronger like voice of reason and a stronger grasp on ethics it's good like yeah i feel that look i've said before that you know how scholars in the past were the the kind of physicians and the doctors of feck this is how they were they the real

like the the number olama generally were the the fukaha this is how it was they were like the i don't know 80 70 percent 80 percent of the margin of scholars were i've said that in this day and age that focus needs to be ethics and and i feel that there are certain voices that are emerging that are trying and but it's going to take maybe a few generations it's like stuff i say i think that maybe you know obviously people like that this that would really take this forward are probably still very

young right now you know and it's going to be it you know these youngsters that as they grow old that they will probably think you know oh yeah you know apart from just laughing all the time and looking insane maybe some of the messages were saying that now they they make a lot of sense and so like that there's other people you know there's sheikh adnan ibrahim

there are a few people that are trying to speak the voice of reason but yeah but shukran for that sami i uh you know it's good that we got that discussion out there i appreciate it right so stay in touch man take care and salam it was great talking to you great help for me most welcome man look at that people look at that so um

all right let's see uh what is going on what is going on chai guevara saying if you want to see how dangerous salafism is watch star wars episode 3 and how anakin fell to the dark side i've not really watched star wars so hmm boto says bimba says someone disagreed with one of his scientific opinions that he should be killed

what a name it's all right it's been this is dj bimbas in the house you know honestly i sheikh bin baz and these people are you know like in a way i don't blame them honestly in a way i honestly don't blame them i blame the fools that follow them i mean these guys bimbas uh you know a lot of this kind of ilk they're just bedouins you know and bimba's bichara you know he's passed away may allah you know have mercy on him and

anyone who's passed away but which ara was blind in you know he was blind he was a blind blind blind person he couldn't see the world he couldn't and he's giving fatawa left right and center and and thereby rendering the rest of the world blind he's like just because i'm in darkness i'm gonna make sure everybody's in darkness but so i don't blame him

i blame the people that uh follow him despite having sight and and insight how can you know what are you doing following such a stupid opinion uh and i'm not saying everything shaykh wimba said was stupid of course not of course not look these people were learning people i'm not saying that they uneducated they weren't uneducated they obviously had studied and but they were bedouin you know like they're the kind of people that grew up with camels and lived with camels all their lives and they could probably name you 500 different species of camels

or 50 species at least i don't know or you know different not species sorry but you know different types of of camels and they could probably tell you i don't know 10 different names for what to call camel dung and stuff like this but they they wouldn't have a clue on atoms and quantum physics or on how advanced technology works in the world or on how even uh advanced countries of the world operate they they wouldn't have a developed understanding of uh whether it's going to be molecular biology or speaking on astro physics or even

mathematics to an advanced level they wouldn't have an idea on how psychology has developed or even anthropology or having looked at uh source criticism or that they're not from this world or this world that we are a part of they were bedouins yard grew up in a desert but they studied islam you know they studied the islamic books and they they lived with you know in in in a desert and and then they became sheikhs but you know and then they start guiding people obviously and look sure you know

more every person wants more power so he's gonna be happy that yeah i want people in america to follow me but obviously other people in america stupid and this is where there's some level of responsibility upon them to think that you know hmm you know so i'm following this guy who uh you know like it's not even he wouldn't even understand how dna works i mean am i do i really want to be asking this person about the crypto exchange this person just knows how to you know he knows bartering with animals and

and things like this i mean i'm not trying to disparage them for being dumb what i'm saying is they are from a particular environment and for their environment they're find you know for other bedouins that are coming to them that's what they need the bedouins that come to them also are desert dwellers they know that look yeah you know uh what shall i do my camel this happened to my camel what shall i do this happened here to you know my stock and oh we didn't have rain because obviously desert or we've this is that they're perfect for those people but if they're going to be advising somebody in london

or manhattan or or you know tokyo this this is not you know this this universe is a part so that's my point that's my point it's not i'm not just hating on the individual i have no wallahi i have no hatred like that towards these people i just it's what just enrages me is the hatred that's been spread like it's so rapidly like a you know like an airborne virus that has been really pushed by these kind of this ilk um you know this albani or thingy uh or they mean sometimes

wasn't that bad to be feared but bimbas and uh frozen and this kind of uh you know this this this this crew right let's bring someone we've had hamad waiting here so patiently look at that people so patiently you see with this patience i can tell that hamad it must be in a very prosperous relationship

growing up you know you always hear this fear-mongering it was your you know the haram uh hell all this and then you know you change that perspective the mercy of god you know shukran man i appreciate that hamad that's really uh meaningful so where where are you from by the way where are you joining us from i'm from minnesota but originally i'm from somalia afraid look at that people look at that we've two major places being rep there the mali world i follow those memes by the way i follow those pages the more yeah yeah yeah i heard that i've seen your

videos like the somali guy you know he farted and he was like oh well well i'm doing that i've seen i know what the video is talking about no but i follow the the actual they've got like mali world and a few other meme pages which they're often sharing funny stuff they're very important yeah masha allah so yeah no i appreciate what you're saying and it's true that look people have associated it's a shame that people have associated god with just punishment and being in trouble that you know god is this scary kind of father figure from the 19th century that kind of you know how

the victorian era of how children should behave in front of the father figure that you know look at him with this and and this you know this is how people treat god that they treat him like a like he might be a hit like he might show he might do favors to them but he's this very staunch parent this kind of like benevolent tyrant that he's uh he might kind of give things to them but he's one of these um you know he better watch out yes so and and i feel that it's a shame because you know you go

through life like that and you know you don't need to because that's not because that's not my understanding of how god is my understanding is allah says he's rahim and and often there's many things where we feel that look i would understand this people would understand this but what we're saying in essence is but god wouldn't understand you know that's in essence what's being said it's like look i understand where you're coming from and it makes sense but but you know no but you know allah is still gonna punish and we need to and people have this guilt that they carry around true true yeah

because like the message was very simple at that time right yeah it was very natural you know the theme was just natural for those people it was like you see islam came and all it did was it the way they had a natural lifestyle it just gave them certain it kind of curved in certain things that they were doing wrong like arrogance and so he said look don't do this this arrogant don't it promoted compassion charity and things like this look allah says

this is it all allah is commanding you is about justice and kindness this is it that's the verse of the quran in the muruku this just this is all allah is commanding you with justice and compassion now and you see this in the lifetime of the prophet this society was just naturally look even the salahs and all of these things the timings they were set around their natural habitat like people woke up at that time it was like okay now that you've woke up you know you know now you're about to go to sleep people went to sleep but

obviously they didn't have these kind of artificial lightings so that they you know as it got dark people prepared to go to go to sleep they they didn't and so now that you're kind of going to sleep you know you've okay you you pray something you go to sleep it's not it was a it was a simple lifestyle and the being was natural to them but today it's it's like people have taken some of those rulings in a dogmatic way and said well you know so for example they uh you know the arrogance that some of them would drag thobes around like the extra royalty and and it was like look what the hell is this you know i i

tried to keep my uh you know the do you know the thing like the bottom of the thing the pants yeah because i i seen the video is like if you're if it's below your ankle you're below your you know you're going to hell i was like yo really and i you know i would like i would walk around like some people would make like what are you doing all because of trying to uphold the dean which is not even that's not even a thing you're supposed to do you know or you have to do yeah exactly and it's it's so you know if you if one just puts the brakes on and says look let's just for a moment think about what we're saying what are we saying we're saying okay so

let me get this right buy your trousers just slightly hanging below your your your your ankles god god is gonna throw you into the hellfire i mean that doesn't even make sense it's like that's just like what the hell does that even mean like that's so dumb like because why would you that's like okay even if i didn't like okay so this is let's just let's flip that on to another parallel like let's say there's a particular rule about clothing i don't like and it's my building my rules so let's say somebody says oh if you're going to come in here i want

smart dress only yeah fair enough you got you got to come here you can only come in here wearing shoes no trainers this is like a clothing rule or if you come in here no hats no caps no fair enough you know let's just say even if it was this this is how we're comparing it that this is it's a it's a a kind of attire rule yeah so somebody says look i don't want you coming in here wearing coats or you know you have to take them off or no caps so somebody violates it yes somebody comes in wearing a cap or he's got trainers and what we basically do is

stab him in the throat like like like look at what the hell this is the kind of example that what you're saying is i'm gonna burn you infinitely in fire for having violated this code of conduct like that doesn't even make any sense it's like well what the hell is that about so it's something that destroyed the muslim world you know yeah destroyed it especially my country you know what i like before we had because we were sufis and it was very simple in the wahhabi somalia it's it's such a you know a tragic um obviously you're so well acquainted with

the history it's a tragic thing the rise of the mahakim you know when you had the the so the proto uh shabbat before the shabbat brother and this was the rise of that whole kind of wahhabi thing and before that they were very chaffey very um and the bloodshed that followed the massacres and and obviously what it did is it it pushed the uh you know created a international refugee scenario situation

out of somalia uh pushing people you know scattering them throughout the globe and obviously then creating a separate country as well because who would leave sandy beaches and you know beautiful land you know it's a very and and even you know mugger do shoot the whole whole the the level of prosperity it was at competition not exactly it was a poor you know it was called the pearl of uh no no off the african horn kind of exactly yeah it was like a golden spot and it's a shame that you see this and to what avail to what end

like what was achieved you know they said oh you know we're gonna um and so many people were killed in the process and and it just ruined an economy and you know where you see uh somali community very it's like you you'll see where i don't know whether this is everywhere but like i saw in the uk for years not now now people have grown up but initially when when there was like this so many people coming over so set like one of the first things that was so integrated with it so talented on especially i.t this is one thing we noticed here

that this is the like just as an example of people the talent that they were bearing that the this talent would have obviously as an example the ingenuity would have been invested in that country promoting its gdp promoting its global status but and it's not look wars and civil wars unfortunately happen in many places and tragedies but it's a shame especially when it was done in the name of god yeah this is where it's heartbreaking yeah so because really a lot it's it's a you know it's a rahma

but it's becoming you know in the azab but yeah man but i appreciate you coming on sharing your your sentiments and your thoughts i want to actually yeah sure go for it go for it you know that i've seen your video on on most sales and you know the stick you know the situation with this oh right okay okay you know do you know about like the you know about like the kushai you know like those history the which one the crystal no you know the kashidi history you know how like the egyptians and then land upon all this other things okay i'm not so sure well it was whatever this is a okay but the question i wanted to ask you was did

moses take the red sea or the nile river oh right so right now i would assume no it wasn't the nile but i would assume that it was uh you see because what they call the red sea nobody's sure what that the red sea was what is this red sea and the in hebrew they seem to have called it the yam okay now uh and yam comes in the quran as well the word and it's used for like either a kind of lake or some kind of like this water um you know like a huge part of water a huge reservoir of water now some people say could be it

could refer to a lake it could refer to a sea it could refer to a kind of gulf but uh now there's a huge discussion why was it called the red sea because there is no red sea so some people said oh it was actually from the reed yeah yeah and the quran this is suggested and you know yeah verse 78 verses because the same warnings is used where moses was put in a basket yeah which in that case would have been the nile let's say that understanding so here some people said it was the read because the reads grew there and and

then later on it was translated as red some people said it was red because of the mountains the the kind of reflection during the daytime because they had a reddish color the water by reflection appeared red but it wasn't actually red but it was just it was reflecting the the kind of the the mounts that were near side uh but i feel from what i've read i've read dr colin humphrey's book on it the the miracles explained of the exodus and he seems to show that it seems to be the gulf of aqaba

and i think that's is pretty much i mean it made a lot of sense to me but you can check out his book as well it is a detailed book but he goes through all the miracles explains them through a natural uh explanation of how they could have happened yeah well you know i've seen this i've seen this whole documentary where he said they went you know you know about the beta jews in ethiopia right yes of course yes he said so he connected these people with the people of moses and it would make more sense that he took them now instead of going outside of egypt because you know the garrisons were already over there you know yeah that's where the armies were no i don't know

yeah no i mean there were definitely strong links between um what would be like maybe modern-day eritrea or before ethiopia or abyssinia between those regions and even uh the nubian kind of kingdoms and egypt they were very strong um kind of links and and and and and it's it's a bit confusing because we're not sure but there's some rabbinic literature and also some um you know kind of like i believe abyssinian findings as well that or not findings but i don't know whether

it's writings or whatever but there's definitely some things in the talmud you also allude to moses having gandhi before that he mentions that he went and in fact they argue that he went there and he became quite powerful almost like a king but he like he i think he was gonna marry the queen or something and then he fears this kind of attack and he comes back to egypt um so but then that's not in the bible but it seems to in the jewish bible but

it seems to me in the talmud literature that they um uh seem to kind of have some stories associated that this happened now um i don't know but then you have the ethiopian jews for example who then claim this uh heritage and so yeah and they and there were some findings that they claimed that the ark of the covenant was in ethiopia and there's this documentary on youtube about it but yeah it's all very interesting can i ask stuff more question okay you sure of course go for it is it a quick question you know the early muslims were praying towards

jerusalem right were there mosques in jerusalem right now no they won't no so um you see this is interesting that where were the early muslims praying towards now ethiopia right okay there's a there's a temple in ethiopia where it aligns straight with the the mecca and it also kind of makes sense you know why would the prophet choose ethiopia at all other places for you know for the protection okay you know

because these people what i feel like is these people all have the connection you know yeah you're all connected in a way because you're right because this this connection isn't really explained in uh like in the common narrative so in the common narrative it's it's given a very simplistic answer like people say well you know uh the reason the prophet sent them there because he heard there's a good person then you know i sent it it's like a very like a baby-like answer to a complex problem and i feel because at that time if you're going to be honest you see there were three arabian three

um districts isn't the right word but maybe like states not state but kind of regions so you had the northern arabia which was would be today the middle east not saudi arabia um and then you had uh arabia petriah which would have been the hijas a huge part of central saudi arabia it was the part which was kind of barren and all deserts and stuff and then you had arabia felix which was the southern arabian kingdoms because they had a strong christian dynasty that preceded islam by about

600 years and you know if not sorry if i'm saying six maybe 800 years and they were flourishing and they had a strong connection with uh uh ethiopia as well and with that part the the horn of africa because yemen which is modern day yemen but then would have been arabia felix was kind of bob mundub is kind of connected almost to the horn and so they've even had a jewish rule there as well and that's where abraham comes over from and rules so the question is if the prophet was to seek sanctuary so you had these

and then you also had the sassanid persians further north and you had the christian byzantines and and there was a connect between the byzantines and the abyssinians and also the because they were christian as well and also the southern arabians why would the prophet choose abyssinia like it doesn't seem like a um it doesn't seem like a natural go-to you know there's these huge things you could go up north with that's what i'm saying yeah so i i find this very interesting do send me any research you've got on this because i've not

really researched this to be honest i i i understand that there's this huge there's a deeper question mark but i've not found myself you know on to anything so do send me something i'm basically saying they were just like all one big fan because you know when he was because you know when najashi brought them in right he greeted them welcome all sons of our mother because you know then maybe that connection maybe also the quran mentions that they all cried how can they cry without understanding the so-called arabic language you know

yeah but awesome stuff hamad it's been a pleasure having you on today take care of yourself we'll speak and drop me a message on social media inshallah on instagram i'll look out and always keep your i'll flag your profile young talent right there who you know get providing some thought-provoking questions you know what we are getting quite late let's try and have some quick brief i know some people have been waiting so let's try and

have some quick swift uh um salam so-called arabic was this love you can't do wudu with nail polish by the way you can i uh in my fatwa apone i'm here to give fatawa so yes i've got a video on that you can mufti are you trying to build a harem here with all those female mods look at these haters hate insecure people see insecure being around women that is

uh you know what i didn't actually read any i had this book here i did think you know what i should read one or two uh poems but i don't um i don't know let's see if i hi what about this for people who are still worried about calm kibat that the real thing i never even discussed it in life

that this wasn't my style in life too to get down to the deep matters and discuss them hi he says that hi that desire which was never really the that high that life which was never really lived amazing people amazing this is

uh this speaking about since it's uh valentine's he says he that of which desire of which lust is it not dil hi hi he says this heart my dear is not one that you can handle

ah you're drawn ilya he says you know i feel that he may have taken this from ilya abu madhi you know the arab poet because john ilia used to read elia abu mahdi where he has a famous poem

you know that poem of his last word sounds very this this part is like a spot on arabic almost like a translation of that part of it [Laughter] says don't allow me to be separated from myself the truth is this that even i cannot handle myself just some very i don't know some

shakovian jacovian kind of uh soul stirring stuff that's what i feel i don't know these are oh this is that one that i said earlier on that honeycomb that it was simply an illusion of being that to be this was simply an illusion

that whatever was i guess was but he says and this is the line i'd quoted earlier on that hamco that it was my love as in the woman he's speaking about here who that ruined me says otherwise you know i would have been better off with god that you know when i made that choice god

these are in essence arabic words what pre-eternity and what eternity that no matter when it was it was in essence always a moment if you think about it life is always just the ever persistent now it is always just the now and everything else is either an anticipation

or simply a memory allah allah people sometimes oh people i get philosophical at this time of night [Laughter] then you wonder why i'm insane i start thinking right so people look at that john elliott all right josef i'm sorry let's bring him on people tosif assalamu alaikum look at that you're on mute you're on mute you're on mute from mute

[Music] oh i am in ottawa canada canada ottawa is the capital is it yes why did i always think it was uh come on it's not toronto ottawa is the capital wow

i was for some reason thinking it was toronto okay wow toronto is one of that's weird because when i think of canada i think of vancouver or toronto or montreal or and none of these are ottawa and and so like when people think of pakistan they might think of lahore and karachi but don't slum about right so it's akin to that well uh you know it's very good to touch base with you i'm one of your newer recruits geogeoto you're doing i gotta say

just just that style you're killing it this is some proper godfather mode going on here you know i've got some musculoskeletal conditions so this is helpful i am 54 years old much older than you must do so yeah but you're looking slick look at that i'm loving that i'm loving that goatee seriously this is proper you've got this amitabh vibe going on about you honestly you're doing it you're doing it man you know there are tons of things to talk about and i i'm sure this is very late in the night so

i won't probably take much of your time but i'm very grateful for this opportunity and hopefully in the future we'll be able to share so i've got tons of things too because i am i'm a thinker i think and so therefore i'm a research methodologist i write usuals for research and clinical research so i have a medical degree but then i'm a scientist so uh yeah wow very impressive i mean do shares i mean if there's something oh yeah something here here is a very very very

very simplistic thought now cause and effect are interdependent logically there's an interdependency absolutely so every effect must have a cause but every cause must have an effect too okay right you cannot have a cause without an effect so the question then is the most basic thing is to conceptualize and i think we owe this to the hindus sure we conceptualize zeroness

or nothingness because that is what really should be there by default that there's nothing and you should be able to conceive of divinity in that nothingness so imagine that nothing was ever created okay so if nothing was ever created then it wouldn't make sense to have those attributes that allah has there would be no need for mercy beneficence so on and so forth right

true true so would that mean that allah is as dependent on creation because he came to be but that doesn't make sense because based on my reading of the quran there is nothing like allah so so as such allah is not a thing and it's nothing and so then so then how so the way i conceptualize i mean i know that these are just speculations not parameter though

no no sure random speculations so in that realm of nothingness at least now we know that the universe has been created because we live within it right if you can imagine a counterfactual so the counterfactual is already here in that nothingness that the universe has been created yeah that means in that nothingness lies if and nothing if all the things that have been created were never created this implies that in that nothingness

lies all the potential so the only thing that exists and everything that could exist but does not exist not everything that could ever exist and does not exist at this point in time right so this is my understand so that's why i think and i suspect so i when it comes to arabic i am it's almost zero my understanding of arabic but i suspect that is what the al in quran is it is the origin of mercy

the origin of creation because that l has to exist even if nothing was created okay i don't know if it's making sense no no it's very very profound i mean it's very um thought-provoking and very deep and i love it i'm loving what i'm hearing honestly i wanna i i want you to come on a mind trap yeah i wanna discuss that length and hear from you uh not just discuss i want to hear these thoughts i mean i think this

is incredibly profound i mean this it's obviously so um but go go on and so my understanding is that al is and then it becomes so he is the l the origin of gods and elas in this case would be all the other uh mala ulula that exists right uh who have the power the cr to that govern the the creation and and all the forces that you know this

and so so it is the origin of everything and all attributes belong to him rather than so they are his possessions rather than his identity of course right so allah for example is something that allah possesses so my pen is not me of course not right so so then there is very a very thin line between theism and atheism because really to begin with there is nothing but potential and it's completely nothing

and what's amazing is nothingness cannot be conceptualized exactly right exactly so so there is in in mathematical zeroness there is impotency right it is impotent but the zeroness we are being guided towards based on my reading of the quran is a zeroness of all potencies

you know so and that's that's how i conceive of allah that it is a potentiality for everything which is in in a timeless realm so that means and you cannot add time to allah's realm and that's why allah is unchanging of course there's no change to allah so that means all the creation starts off at time zero and is created backwards in time

and that's what and stephen hawkins also kind of he speaks of this of several similar things in the in the theory of uh you know where he's speaking about the of everything but of the universe and this thing about if we bring everything back to zero but yeah sorry carry on yeah this negative uh so this you know uh going backwards in time so that means the future already exists of course yeah and maybe that's why in some of the verses of the quran the qiyama has already happened it's

that's how it's articulated you know the everything is run this rent asunder and you know things have opened up and the earth so so the way i conceptualize it and and that also explains the predestination that means everything is pre-ordained because it's backwards in time but then we have free will because from our perspective the arrows time of the time is going this way yeah from allah's perspective you're just coming to the future where allah exists i mean i shouldn't say future because because allah is in time zero

exactly and so it's just a circle it's a different perspective altogether where it doesn't yeah so you start at time zero you do a full circle and you return at time zero and in that sense you can say that the universe is never created and the universe is always created is always there because this is time zero right and you can have multiple cycles of birth and rebirth and and i would argue that quran doesn't actually deny reincarnation and actually that is actually

i remember discussing that briefly on on one of the shows mentioning that that is true exactly that there have been some muslims and whether they were fringe or not i mean they were fringe but they uh argued for reincarnation it wasn't quite like it wasn't like the buddhist or hindu reincarnation based on kamen and thing yeah but they used the quran for their points and i remember reading through what they were saying and just from a objective viewpoint okay let's see what their arguments are and it's actually like um okay well they're actually using clear verses of the quran

and you're like well okay i see now uh yeah but sorry you were saying yeah so i'll i'll just cut it short now i think it's dragged on for quite a bit but i mean no i you know what this i i love i love being you know seriously engaged in in this kind of intellectual channel it it just it pulls me in man and i don't you know it's not very often that we come across people uh unfortunately i'm not saying there ain't out there but you know that we've come across especially within the muslim sphere

and that i i think it's amazing seriously just your the philosophical angles you're discussing and there's a lot obviously there's a lot to unpack here because we're speaking about the you know the ontological nature of the cosmos we speak about this connection to to god what is and almost the ontology of god if we can even use that but we're trying to say well what is the nature of being and the nature of time obviously as an illusion but then how we're seeing it and from the other perspectives and okay i you know what you you have to reach out to me as soon as when we finish this show

are you on instagram or something i just joined it because of you you joined instagram okay so the thing is i am i'm not very tech savvy i although i do work a lot on laptop that's how i work uh but i am not on these um most of these uh networks uh platforms like instagram but i joined because i wanted to connect with you i really liked what you had to you were saying so i've watched some of your videos and i'm really quite impressed i i'm impressed with you man you know honestly you're just really firing some gems at us and i'm i'm loving it so i if you can uh and i'm definitely not

if you can definitely send me a message and what i want to do thief is let's hook up a minecraft i will then get in touch and i'll send my number and everything and we'll get chatting man it's been a pleasure honestly and i'm really glad you came on it's it's a blessing take care of yourself those evils by the way i think you had i think there was a proposal for you along the way somebody had even i have a 20 year old kid well it's i think the proposal's for you but it's good to see that you're thinking about your kid first but

take care of yourself we'll speak soon slowly people that was those ansari um really uh sharing some gems with us i'm i love it when you know you come across you come across sheer intellect it's it's amazing it just grips me man it's um but i i'm i want to make that minecraft happen inshallah so let's do that uh there's been some amazing people i've been reaching out to for a mind trap and things like that recently i'm also been speaking to dr joseph lombard who has agreed as well to do a minecraft

so that's going to most likely be um i don't know actually i'll double check with him it might be this coming weekend um or maybe the week after but that that somebody lined up i have also reached out to dr celine ibrahim i watched her video on female archetypes in the quran and i really liked it so i've reached out to her but i haven't had a response yet but she i've had an indirect response from somebody else saying that she's mentioned she's happy to come on minecraft so cool let's see how that goes guys

it is getting late but i know some of you have been waiting so i will try and but i'll have to keep this brief unfortunately but let we've got rational faith here rational faith who's been waiting quite a while assalamu alaikum rational faith oh well i come from can you hear me right i can indeed alright uh i don't want to discuss the uh one one thing i do want to mention that um a few people said to me last time that i did come across as a bit rude and a bit smug that wasn't my intention you know it's my first time doing it

obviously i've forgotten uh yeah yeah well a few people said what happened last time i don't remember it's like this is like one of those you wake up and you're like what happened last night honestly oh right yes yes of course i remember now yes i can artem yes we did yeah yeah so i wasn't like um intending to come across as being wronged or anything no problem man look these things it's all good you know what there should be passion there should be some fire in the belly oh

you know it's all good it's all good you know it keeps people going i don't hold these things against me by against people by the way you know like there's a difference obviously there's a sense of being rude like this through passion no not that you're rude but let's say being up up uh you know being like forthright in what you have to say because of passion and and whatever and or you get into a little kind of uh a kind of dispute dialogue uh this kind of stuff is not considered like i don't i don't you know take offense to anything like this is obviously different somebody just going just swearing non-stop and that's different obviously that's a silly but i don't get

offended so it's not saw water under a bridge oh brilliant i did want to um discuss something um have you heard of ahmed pervez of pakistan yeah yeah i have of course yeah and he um he doesn't believe in the virgin birth and he has a very interesting theory so what he said yeah me neither and [Laughter] you know when mary goes to her people and jesus says um i'm i'm not a rebel i'm a mother it's a bad woman or something now that isn't talking about

her becoming adultery according to him but it's the fact that she broke the rules of the temple and got married because if we look at the sort of um the dead sea scrolls we know that there was a community in jerusalem called the essenes and what they did is they didn't actually get married and uh josephus talks about this as well that uh the other fire the pharisees the sadducees and the essenes on their scenes they didn't tend to get married so they would stay single and what they're referring to that you've done like an amazing

thing is actually her not um it's actually her getting married and having a child and in three 44 i did come across this well let me find the first no no i oh you're talking about the bible is that what you're referring to okay no no no the quran and the quran um okay okay yeah you weren't there when they cast their lots to freeze oh yes yeah i did come across a an apocryphal uh called the proto evangelium a jacobi or the proto-evangelion

evangelium of james and in there mentions that another casting of the lots yeah that was joseph casting lots to get married to mariam and traditionally people have translated this to mean zechariah that he it was him that was doing it but if you read a few verses before it mentions zakariya already took charge of mary and surah ali imran is uh is chronological in about mary generally so it goes from her being born and then he goes to a temple in a marriage and then jesus and him so if zachariah was already in charge of

mary what was the casting of the lot and then to me that would be and i think every you know gabriel and reynolds he's also said obviously talking about uh the approach evangelion of james sure so what are you saying the the so just for to to clarify you know the casting of the lots regarding me what is that signifying about her proposal uh something yeah the proposal so it says you weren't there when they cast a lot or disputed about her yeah and in the proto-evangelium they cast their lots to see who would marry uh mary

and joseph ended up winning and so the that it made sense for them to have been disputed because why would there be a dispute between zechariah taking charge of mary that doesn't really follow if you see what i mean [Music] right sure now for okay fair enough i mean i don't see i yeah i mean that's i've not really to be honest i i think yeah i mean i've i've not really uh looked so much into that verse on uh what exactly was it speaking about but you're right it sounds very interesting you know because thinking about it could

have been um you know what what what is this exactly because there's an ambiguity around it so yeah i will actually try and look into it now that it's brought to my attention yeah and i think um historically i think you know mary they might have been from the essene jews who were like um ascetic sort of jews who uh they were lived a simple life they were themselves people when they didn't get married they didn't believe in luxury and that sort of thing and i think that's why the bible references uh john as eating a wild honey and so on sure sure no uh no absolutely i mean my

my take on that was that the verse of the quran is referring to the incident i think it's in the gospel of luke but it's about when jesus is about 10 or 11 but when he's brought to the temple in jerusalem and he gets left behind on the caravan so mary goes back and then she uh comes back and it's been a couple of days i think three days it mentions that she's looking for him she can't find him jesus so it's only mentioned in one of the gospels not in the others but um she eventually finds him and he's he's in the temple but he'd been arguing i mean i say arguing but he'd been

debating the high priest and they're really annoyed at him because they consider it very disrespectful so this incident referring to when she comes to collect him and them saying that you know what is this that uh you know you you basically your father wasn't this and your mother wasn't this like are you not a woman of good you know like of decent noble characters in is this how you raise a child um this is in my understanding what the verse was saying and this is also what um mawlana abdul karim al-athari and these people write in data see it as well

so yeah yeah i think an oglala muhammad provides i think he does use a lot of uh ability military's interpretations especially about the gin that uh the fact that jin are um human he uses that as well i see yeah i i did yeah that that uh is an interesting one yeah i have quoted it on my thing of who would the chin of suratul tuljin you know because this gene mentioned in many accounts but what is being meant there but yeah epic epic shukran for sharing that uh rational faith um dearly appreciated uh chukrun for waiting

patiently as well and do stay in touch somebody did ask are you on the on the fan group discord group i'm i'm not sure if you are but they said is that rational faith from the there you go this is this is him people this is him so guys uh so rational faith okay take care of yourself great talking to you uh stay blessed so people that was rational faith uh sharing some uh insights on tafsir um there was a post here um i just wanted

to uh bring it up i might have it's gone up now i don't know where it is but somebody said i thought it was relevant because oh here here it is i want you to become economically independent from this man so you don't have to worry to do this full time [Laughter]

you see now that's concern look at that uh but for your uh just so you know i don't do this as a i'm not getting paid to do this this isn't i am actually financially independent alhamdulillah i do you know i'm involved in different businesses investments i also crypto trading i do i'm i'm i'm very independent financially and hence i can have my kind of views and have these kind of uh things that my lifestyle as a movie critic and a vampire but uh i do these things and i know

when i do uh people do support me so there's a lot of people who support me on patreon and much love to you guys and there's people on youtube who do support like let's say they send super chats on the monday nights and this is really them just showing their love which i appreciate and uh obviously my duas are with them but i don't do this that's as a kind of livelihood thing that not at all in fact all this thing of youtube and super chats and it's only since 2020 it's not if you go back to monday nights with mufti since 2017 i

began this um you know there's over 200 i mean this is the meetups but it's been over 200 episodes of monday nights with mufti and none of them had that feature the majority of them didn't have that feature where people could do things like send super chats and stuff like that this is only since uh what is it it's probably not even been of probably just about 12 months now or under 12 months i enabled it but i do this for a legacy you see this is uh this thing you know it's look people watch me for different reasons i get that you know some people i may just be funny

and to some people i may um you know maybe they like the poetry or they like certain things and and some people maybe the religious stuff but i use that as a vehicle to kind of also you know carry across my views and obviously this human this poetry and this other kind of things i muck about but i but it's about the the message the kind of um you know the ultimate um

the colonel the the the the the actual lubab the lupul lubab of this the nectar is really the message that i put out there and really that is a legacy that i see that as a legacy that uh one for it to impact uh the hearts and minds of whoever does it does impact and then secondly that it's something i leave behind inshallah you know it's

me says that yes you've come in this world but whatever you left behind so i do this purely as a this is not honestly i uh i don't think and not to sound you know with my kind of mindset if i don't enjoy doing these things it doesn't matter i i suppose unless it's a ridiculously absurd amount of money but it'd be very difficult to get me to do stuff i have one of those uh very like if i don't want to do something i just don't do it i don't you know the amount of times and even though money is great you know it's always helpful and solves a lot of problems and it's it's

good and i encourage people to always make money but it's not a such a highly motivating factor you know if you've got a certain amount of money but it does obviously look things help it's not denying that but this is really a legacy but shukran for your concern and i'm glad that you you know you echoed what you were feeling in your heart as a genuine you know obviously as a as genuine compassion so shook and trickling right people we've gotta we've gone on quite a bit um

um xrp after the trial yeah the cryptos been down actually um i don't mean the exchanges although finance was down a couple of days ago but it's more the market's been down these last couple of days it's been a bit weird you know you gotta juggle stop and shift across there's been some gainers but you know hmm the market's been a bit weird recently but yeah let's see people let's see what uh you know what i'm gonna uh just do a few quick high buys um

in aya there's a very um you know that that's something which i was mentioning the other day that look atoms are ev you know people we are just mata is just empty space for the most part which is so counterintuitive um all coins are coming up this month rosalina they sure are um it's but i mean it's strange because the other day you know what is the uh bitcoin was once again back on it ethereum was on it but i don't know today was off again i don't know i don't know

let's uh guys who have got jawad sahib let's have a quick hi bye and then assalamu alaikum jawad while he goes on sorry i was trying to finish the island how are you doing man how are you keeping alhamdulillah how are you i'm good i'm good look at you check you out lying down chilling out look you literally for so long i changed rooms i went from a tear to now ling down look at these people are watching us lying in bed

in the spirit of valentine's day this is you know like in the verse that they do thicker standing in raku in sujood lying down on their sides this is they do they have in a state of remembrance in all states well how is everything with you yeah things are good things are good little ham to house uh what about you i know you're always in deep meditation and uh yeah i was actually doing some pondering or recently on some stuff

okay i hope you so so i was getting these ideas sort of in my head and i was just thinking that um sorry let me just sit up or else my voice won't be clear okay so basically i was thinking about how there's a lot of focus on the outer aspects of islamic practice rather than the inner aspects and i was like for example if somebody saw you and i could say this from personal experience if somebody saw you the first time they would be like in shock you know like who is this you

know it's a mufti how is this a mufti okay so what i was actually thinking was and this was sort of what i was thinking it was that is maybe there's a lot of extremism because there's less focus on the inner aspects of

the religion somebody just said i watch musti when i'm on the toilet no disrespect seriously i don't think i can go into the toilet without the phone it's like i i can just i'll be like no just hold on more i need to get the phone it's like no i'm the opposite i'm in and i'm out very cool look at this i think the the bathroom is where i get so much of my inspiration

it's like where i get so many ideas i don't know what kind of a twisted joke there is in you know there were some artists i was reading about where they would get ideas for their uh paintings in the bathroom this was like a thing for painters that i was reading there were some really famous ones that i get you know honestly it's i think it's i think it's actually quite common that people will have like uh they'll have so many ideas and things whilst and i think it's to do with obviously people tie it in with the sense of uh a sense of release and uh satisfaction with that and

and relaxation so not satisfying relaxation of the mind uh at a very obviously if you're looking at it from a psychoanalytic view it's going back to infancy and whatever and the whole uh anal stage but not anal in that sense freud's anal stage but yeah so you're saying sorry yeah so talking about the inner aspects of the religion and how like if i were to say today that like i'm gonna become a practicing muslim the first thing people would you know look for is how i'm dressing and whether my beard is like you know is my beard growing out or not

and instead of you know the inner aspects which is why a lot of people like criticize people like even scholars that don't keep a beard like for example within the shias there was talib johari from pakistan may allah be pleased with him who passed away he never had a mirror you know there were other ones you know from the sunnis as well that don't that don't really have don't that never really had beards and like this is a beard is just one example but there's so much focus on like the outer aspects because the thing is that uh somebody just asked not that you need to answer but they've

asked whether you're a shia right so i don't think you you are but you see the the reason that people are on the fixated on the outer is because it is it's easy to to do you know it and it ties into people who need you see you know people that are unfortunately drawn towards religion sometimes they are not always but some people are quite unfortunately they are people whose minds are a bit

i don't know if challenged is the right word but they are they're kind of artistic in in a socially uh sense that they need hyper structure like they need everything to be structured like i need this this this in life and even if they're not fully autistic in the in the autism spectrum sense but they have this about them and then they find this in religion quite easily especially harsh religion it provides a very clear structure of like do's don'ts this is the box this is what you do this is and and they can

you see to them that that is what their life needs they they need structure they need to organize you know it's like i remember being at a psychology uh session with some of the tutors and they were one of the tutors she was the lecturers she was telling us that oh how um actually now thinking about it she might have actually been speaking about herself but she was saying about um or unless it was someone else but about when they go shopping that she needs to place you know the like once the goods have been kind of scanned through she needs to place the

thing in the shopping bag in a certain order and if she doesn't she was saying like let's say her husband or somebody puts it and they'll just put it in it's like she'll be like no like leave it alone i will do because it needs to be in a certain order and you see this is what you find that these people they find great comfort in organized harsh heart like it's not about extremists but in very institutionalized religion they find comfort because it gives them this wrong right wrong right and they just

and that's what they need they need like hyper order like not even regular order yeah so i guess the reason i was thinking of this was like for example i was just pondering on like salah right like i was just thinking about i was sorry somebody just said most i'm sorry i'll use shia sunni or wahhabi or ahmadi i'm sunni thank you very much people look at this the inquisition is taking place right here on valentine's day we're about to be

so the reason i was thinking about this was because i think like for example the message like for example salah teach us like like on a very basic level for example teaches us like things like you know time management being on time to places you know and if you're praying but you're not on time you're sort of missing that whole you know that sort of aspect of the prayer um another thing i would like on a on a deeper level i was thinking of salah and i was thinking about how salah actually teaches us not to discriminate amongst amongst muslims and non-muslims and i can actually back that up

so for example uh when we pray salah you know muslim muslims like that are rich poor black white arab non-arab you could make the whole list basically they all pray beside each other right like they pray in the same masjid for example right now somebody would say okay but that's not discrimination against muslims how is that teaching us to not discriminate against non-muslims and i would argue that it's teaching us not to discriminate or spread hate to non-muslims because those non-muslims could tomorrow become muslims and they

would not want to pray in your masjid because you were the person who discriminated against them who spread hate against them so why would they come pray at your masjid even if they became muslim they would hesitate to come from to your masjid right so it so it's teaching us that's like a deeper level of for example that's just salah like if i had time i would i could go into each practice and that's just two three examples from salah like salah teaches so much more like if i had an hour i could probably go into the deeper levels of the numbers of raqqa and things like that i think if you do what's going to happen

is everybody's going to kind of like knock out and then they're going to miss the actual salah no i'm missing but no i i do appreciate you know what i i love the passion you pouring towards you know what i i love that man you know so much passion for salah you know it's like you know you you you make us embarrassed of ourselves

we're more like yeah i gotta clock this whole tv series tonight what the hell i'm i do that i i can't lie i've been in that situation uh but jawad it's been epic man shukran for sharing your insights these gems uh take care of yourself yeah inshaallah will speak soon people i'm just gonna take one final one it's gone over three hours ten minutes um you know what hamad gowan then what the hell he said he's got a funny story people he's got a funny story let's hope this

is funny how are you i'm good where are you joining us from muhammad okay so i'm a pakistani but i'm from america are you doing it man i like the the gaming are you a gamer yeah look at that man i gotta i gotta start i gotta learn how to game right so i wanna i wanna get into gaming i've bought my pc a big bloody monster right of a i haven't set it up yet i've got to get my bloody techie guy to set it up for me but

yeah so i'm going to need tips on how to play you know once i start um once i start that damn thing yeah i've uh messaged you on instagram about uh this game called among us ever heard of it yeah yeah but my kid's daughter plays it what is it that's a kid's game isn't it no among us like no it's not to be dead or something and uh no no no you uh it's basically 10 people in a room uh they have to do tasks so basically like uh a police force of 10 people and two people are impostors and the impostors have to kill the rest of the police force yeah that's

yeah yeah laila plays it and she's like uh among us among us and uh because i used to say amongst her you see so she was like among us and i don't realize like amongst us what about amongst us this game and yeah she showed it to me and she's playing it and yeah like you gotta be an impostor or you gotta be this and that and okay oh you want me to play that now yeah i'm talking about shooting up people and doing that crazy i don't want to play this imposter kids game then i don't know like maybe call of

duty puppies i think call of duty is more isn't that more profound as in out the always pubg which is uh i guess card is better yeah a card is more diverse i guess you could say yeah call us more into it so how difficult could that be you just got to get a gun and just shoot so i'm thinking you know uh these are the games because they're too daunting i'm thinking how the hell am i going to learn how to play it's like so cool so you got to send me some tips on that once i start what's uh you know what when we finish this send me an instagram message so i'll flag your profile so it'll stay up so

i'll know what's uh okay also what was there something you want to what's what's this funny convo you got okay so i wanted to make a slot i wanted to ask if mirza kadyani was alive today favorite so what would you say to him uh oh you see to be fair right uh somebody just said oh

musty play fortnite um uh what is it about i i've got a video obviously explaining my perspective on him i did i was both of them they are hilarious they you know these people they provoked me and i because normally you see my thing was that look tk obviously i don't my point is that look i think he did have some mental health issues

here and to me it's not the person it's always people who are following him that how can you be duped um and this was my point so i i was like like what did he achieve like i want to know what did hola miza achieve and i was going to have a mind trap discussion actually with uh one of the kadyani representatives but i don't know why they took it to this nasty level and started kind of trolling me and making videos against me and and then when i asked them nicely that look listen guys bazaar you know enough of this uh you

better stop and then they're like what's happening me trolling me on what's up and i'm thinking and then every you know there's like about 40 of them and they're spamming my every picture they're just like five different people would post the same reputation of abu lade's refutation i'm thinking you know you guys look listen this doesn't suit you this kind of bullying you know it's like bazaar i'm playing

and i was like okay you know what you want a troll yeah i did that and obviously but you know if i was okay let's say that hadn't happened like that if they were weren't trolling me and they weren't being rude and they weren't being and it would turned out to be a civil conversation i would have seriously like because look there's many kardianis that i know

because one of the problems is now that i've done that obviously i've kind of pissed off all kadyani's so now any kardiani that was going to be kind of very uh i don't know had an affinity towards me watching my stuff is now going to feel offended and they're not going to watch it so i realized by doing that i'm also burning bridges and i didn't want to burn bridges to be honest i it's not my style but it was just that they pushed me to that edge and i asked on several occasions i honestly i said to them on several occasions basajo this isn't because i said look what and i said it

straight i said when i flip i'm going to come all out on yokadyani so i'm telling you now that don't you know just just just leave it alone and stop trying to troll me but they wouldn't and they did it for like a week and then when it was uh less than a week but it was about five days or something and when it was monday night i was like i've had enough of nonsense on a serious conversation if it was to be a civil conversation my point to them was that what is it that this messiah brought like let's let's have real talk you know okay put the joke right

real talk let's say he is a messiah he came at a time when humanity was at its darkest point you know in colonialism especially the muslim sorry muslim world was at its darkest point not humanity but um and the muslims were extremely suffering during the british raj and it was at that time that you know there was all these it was just you know they had been farming before in bengal and they had been you know all these kind of like people the dynasties had ended and there was poverty and there was disempowerment and all this kind of stuff was going on and mass murders of

of of people that were resisting what is it that brought to the table like i want to know like if he was the messiah surely he would have changed everything but like let's say him coming or not coming what what is the effect like i want to see like that's real talk like i'm not trying to take the the piss out of him or something i'm just being real tell me i want to know did he and this was what the discussion would have been about that i want to see that how what did he change like how is he so because this is the one

shot this is one shot that humanity has a messiah for the end of times has come and you know god is going to break the laws of nature once again and send this messiah and i want to know well what did he do what happened because i can't see anything having changed yeah besides that his claims were pretty weird too like krishna and all that like come on where does that come in yeah yeah i mean no obviously that kind of stuff but i mean to the kadyani's not to him because he's obviously not here i genuinely think he had some uh kind of psychosis and where he may have

genuinely believed he was like an incarnation of god and and this does happen to people yeah he did do drugs that's actually well known about him okay i didn't know that did he do drugs okay yeah he considered it halal or something i don't know okay fair enough i mean i've uh there's certain drugs that i've obviously like heroin and stuff like that are clearly haram but certain things i've said are not necessarily haram but the idea he was on opium i think yeah i think he was on opium but you see my point about khadiyani's is not to today it's not to him he's gone it's to the karyani's today that look

real talk that what is it that has been brought and i understand it's look i've had padianis reach out to me some yeah who have told me that look i am [Music] but i in all honesty you know i've been watching your stuff and this is real talk and i don't want to you know i want to i don't believe in that i don't believe he came as a messiah and whatever but i can't say because it's the same thing you know it's such an irony because the khadiyani community speak of persecution yeah which some of them unfortunately do suffer persecution and that's wrong categorically you know they and that's

unacceptable to persecute any uh person for being a khadiani or being any group now but like in pakistan how it happens and unfortunately sometimes some people are attacked and stuff like this but this guy said to me that look mufti if i give up if i openly in front of my family and my relatives let them know that i have denounced adianism and become like a regular muslim like i will be uh like my life might be concerned not just this song but they'll make it very difficult for me yeah that's what they've been that's very difficult about religion in general

yeah the irony is that persecution coming 360. you know it's like you see the ver the person where the victim turns oppressor that cycle is being relived and yeah so that's um but yes shukran for bringing that up it's not quite the note i wanted to to end it on but uh that i was expecting a funny story yeah i had a funny question like i wrote in the chat uh i got a funny conversation idea so i wanted to ask if mirza came onto the stream or like a mind trap episode like

would you joke around with him or something i don't know i think i'd joke around with anybody to be honest it's been epic shukran for uh for joining us but you know what he didn't bring a funny you gotta come back next time with a funny story now this that's like a debt oh yeah i have to now yeah you know so and message me on instagram look out for the profile because i'll need the gaming tips

yeah like it's kind of unfortunate that the episode's kind of ending but like i wanna have a serious time it's been three and a half hours i was thinking of having a long bath today like one of those like fill it up and which mothers have some ice cold drink some ice cream watch a bit of tv series oh

like too bad the episodes ending earls i wanted to have like a discussion with you about like uh my experience with religion philosophy and all that because i've had like uh a pretty tough year let's just say that 2020 was a hard year for me like just for like a lot of people so like i basically fell into skepticism you know like uh imam ghazali skepticism like uh i'm pretty sure we've read uh yeah where imam gazali starts

my this this week's just gone monday nights with mufti where i speak about the whole razali thing i didn't watch the entire thing okay so maybe the time stamps should be up now but if you check um there's a point where i speak about because i'm asked the question that did razali kind of impede muslim growth in you know reason and stuff but i digress and i go into this whole struggle of yeah the existential and the faith crisis of imam it's definitely worth watching because i think uh it's going to really answer some of these

some of these questions that you're kind of touching to somebody said i bet you only watch the masala section yeah that's uh right so but yeah do watch that let me know and uh we'll touch base and we'll pick this up man yeah the thing yeah the thing about me was i had ocd while having doubt so that's basically like doubt upon doubt because ocd is called the doubting disease where you keep getting anxiety about a thought and it like once you get rid of it it comes back at you

yeah so like let's say i have a a vasosa that god doesn't exist okay then i use an argument or rational reason to overcome it like 10 minutes later that same voicemail is going to come at me even power like even harder that no god does not exist and like it's really distressing just like the hadith where a companion came to the prophet sallallahu assalam that yeah such was that if i i would rather wish to die than to utter them so the prophet sallam like uh he said is it really that

is it is that really the case that's the sign of iman yes the hadith is pure and yeah i mean i do explain although it's not about ocd but i have a clip speaking about doubts you see and how doubt always there's nothing wrong in having doubts obviously ocd is slightly different to just having doubts it's it's the whole compulsive disorder in in its in itself because it can it it's like a spectrum i mean some parts can completely life and in some ways what i would say is seriously i know

this is going to be really hard but i would say that you have to resist the the the kind of the whatever the whatever the the waswasa is so if it says you missed a bit of wudu you just ignore it if you miss you missed it if it says you might have done this rakaat this might be that fine if i if it was wrong it was wrong yeah i've been dealing with i've been dealing with this for like a year now alhamdulillah like i've been getting therapy i've been getting help uh it's been good uh alhamdulillah i'm over the the deeney waswasa's face alhamdulillah like i studied philosophy i studied

epistemology all that and i alhamdulillah i can say it with confidence that i'm a muslim of my own will i'm not a muslim because my parents are muslim alhamdulillah so yeah like that's like my good advice there do some meditation hamad and drink calming tea always drink tea huh [Laughter] that's it so people you know what well that is the answer to everything it is amazing amazing fantastic tea fantastic

news i'm gonna wrap up take care of yourself message me shukran for reaching out uh much love cool yeah it was fun people that was hamad interesting thoughts interesting discussion but not really it's as uh chai guevara said look it's uh it was a funny story we ended up giving therapy instead uh look at this see mariam you're doing it do in it much love much love look at that uh there was a quick

message from monotheism saying look he's been blocked on uh instagram um right now i don't know what um right if you i don't know if you've been blocked i tell you what if you message and mention it's you and i'll try and look through some of the blocked things yeah uh yes i'm starting to lose hope yep it's gonna be difficult man you might as well let that hope go for tonight so let's wrap this up guys it's been epic it's been awesome

um as always right look at that karima you see that's what it is chai that's what i need right now i need uh so i need to go get that i need to clock some more tv series i need to see whether what else i'm gonna have to do so guys take very good care of yourselves i will um oh i did have this um

i set it up to basically uh to be able to just put non-stop memes because the problem was that when i was sharing some of these memes and funny things on my regular instagram i've got too many to share and if i flood it it's not right because it kind of ruins the the ambience of the page because i'm trying to sometimes give some serious deep thoughts and so i thought well i know a separate moms meme page so if you haven't already uh uh where's it gone right so if you haven't already there it is again

and i will be having the the discord inshallah so this right there's two different discords by the way so this one that i'm showing you right here is for the members uh this is a membership program one um which has several it's gonna have several features on the resources uh platforms which i've named uh where they'll be kind of like discussions uh things like this right so this is um this is for mainly for members from patreon and the youtube membership once that's running as well but that said this is called mindscape

so mufti's mindscape okay or malms mindscape i've called it on there now the other there is a discord which inaya has and i think it's uh dark matter i think he runs it i uh but that's a fans discord group that's open for everyone i'm pretty sure uh somebody maybe in iowa somebody else will share the um they'll share the link their discord link in in in the messages here so you can kind of uh you can go through to that but on that one

i'm not actually a part of that but i will i i was just discussing today i will upon occasion maybe just come as a guest to deal with some q a and things like that as a one-off kind of thing but i'm not actually this one that i've been showing you uh is a separate this is mind space it's called the server and the whole purpose of it is really for membership kind of content it's basically to give people that you know some jacket oh that extra edge people so yeah anyway guys take very good care of yourselves

um have an awesome night awesome weekend and i'll catch up with you guys soon till then all right have an awesome weekend spread love people spread love salaam allah