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'The Wazzio' - Waseem Iqbal | Hope & Humanity amidst Infliction & Insanity | Mindtrap with Mufti #31
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machineauto-transcribed, may contain errors · source: youtube auto · click a time to seek · dotted terms open the glossary[Music] all right people of in the hamdulillah aquifer or salat wa salam o allah rasool mustafa ala i body ladina Baba oh man we would have masterda or be a 30 al madina the fire burned for Salam Allahu Allah ohm allah wa salim bikumu marhaban warning lights bienvenidos a todos people are I another episode of minecraft is going down people let me
bring up a picture of our esteemed guest tonight Allah Akbar right there people Damas Y Caballeros let me present to you Allah the man the myth people was seemed Iqbal aka there was you that's what these people there was yo let me just bring him right in us Salam aleikum I see oh all right my introduction as long as you want that
one you just did peoples this is the legend we've taken out today with tea we've had to we've had to force this show by public demand jump up give demand people jump ugly demand so why CEO Shakur and man for taking your time out those of you that don't eat so for me to all of you are familiar with was yours were but those of you don't write some of his finest this is Birmingham's finest people right
here you can see and you can definitely very clearly articulating the the bro me accent is the was he hate the Birmingham accent it does actually I don't know what I don't know why huh so huazi always involved greatly in humanitarian work worldwide going after some of the most [Music] poverty stricken and sometimes just ordeal stricken kind of places he's seen some tragic things
he's helped people in amazing ways in addition to that he's he's he's lived a life as a as a rapper we'll bring that little do you know see he's had that aspect and and in addition to all of that he's got this whole social media thing going on so that is the man compressed as there was EO people there I have to add the definite article so classy oh man what is going down man what is happening I was meant to go football today and everything's just
been canceled people if people don't give you a time you expect two hours later but my exactly that's the so you have to prepare people you have to you know what it is you have to prepare them never spoken about sport any sports I don't you know I don't know jack I don't know just right now you're not doing
sports I genuinely just doing it quick if there's any sound issues by the way people let us know but I'm assuming this none in all sports I've never been into sports honestly not even as a I mean as a kid we played football at school played a bit of cricket things like that but that wasn't really a it was just but because people were doing it I was just doing it wasn't I was never really keen surprisingly he at the end of my junior
school that time it was you know what was that it was the World Cup in which we said what's his name Maradona he wins what it must a tease a girl so it must be in the you know I think I think I think world rule one I had just come to an end or something it's definitely the 80s so it's I think it must have been out of my 89 I don't know if that is a year or something but is it even inks 92 nanana he won't have
been them it would have been I would have thought nineties in 1990 it was 90 years well every four years 80 to 86 or 90 yeah I think 90 because I was in the last year of primary school of the junior school thing and I remember for some reason I got into football and it's just because these I'd moved to a new seriously and and these guys were mad about it and they were like oh my god do you know this sounds like really oh and I got so much into it so that's the only time ever I think they played somebody like West Germany or something and I
think that was the final 1990 they played West Germany was it was it West Germany or something but you still West Germany 1990 wasn't he because I think they broke the berlin wall broke after that in it I think they because it was because it wasn't they had Western East Germany and I think when the Berlin Wall broke I'm pretty sure it broke after that I think maybe early 90s like 92 or something they broke that so yeah that's why like all of that stuff just sounds like is it it is I mean I might as well I might as well just tell you the year before that
when I was in I traveled to Babylon in the kingdoms of Babylon I was just a along with Alexander the Great and but that Seeta since then I never really watched any sports and that's really weird though III do accept that that's like a weird thing I think about me man one of my many weird things is that I just and and you know what I just want a picture you plainness and I'm so I'm sorry oh yeah I suppose bye meetin you know badminton we played in secondary school and I did enjoy it but
we never just found the kind of atmosphere to carry on outside of school but I did enjoy that badminton but you know what at football I am absolutely handicapped man I'm like a I'm an absolute space on the kicking the ball over then I'm properly into the MMA now you know the UFC oh right okay as in you you're playing that you're just watching just watching it okay like no like that I did a bit of sports like martial arts but I don't mean by
when I was saying sports I don't mean those things so I mean I did do stuff like I did boxing for a while teenager did obviously at that time all parties did karate did Karate for a while ah-ha-ha-ha and you do the then later on much later in the I think about 2006 2004 a few I did I did some Escrima with you know knife stick sword kind of stuff that was really interesting those like
the the you know the Escrima no no this is just like from I mean when I say just like it's it was like probably 2007 2008 2009 those years so a screamer but they so it's just like knife fighting and kind of like stick but the sword as well with they just use the steak to steaks and so that was actually quite fun I did enjoy that and yeah a bit of Muay Thai but these things I didn't consider like
Thai boxing but but these things I didn't consider you know I I never enjoyed watching these things I never enjoyed like even now when boxing comes on and even on the groups everybody that matter barrio you're gonna watch these and I might watch highlights but I'm not you know I don't find it that fascinating something that people love and always has lost watching two men just beat the crap out of each of them up yeah there's something like you know front it's like similar now the UFC is just nowadays version of you know like
that you stop the gladiators in oh yeah when I was a kid am I putting my parents day and age it's like so the Roman arenas yeah it's true there's something I think just deeply primal about that people I think they want to see blood and gore they want to see it and but they want to see it from a safe distance yes yeah yeah of course of course they do I think they want to see it but just sit back and and then just close it and go back to a nice comfortable but you
know this thing about sports though is very what's very interesting is that because I'm not into any of the sports it it kills a huge aspect of calm of conversation yeah yeah yeah Sports is a big one oh it's a big one man like I I realized like you know when you come across people and the thing that you kind of end up chatting about and I mean like non-muslims I'm not speaking about Muslims specifically so I don't mean as a Mufti as just a person like I'm at the gym let's say and just chat to someone it's either usually sports it's music
sometimes and and in both of these aspects I'm severely handicapped man and and then sometimes it might be TV or movies and series in these things I'm very like I'm binge watched so many TV series and stuff so but otherwise it kills off so much of a convo and I do you think sometimes your damn sports music and food those three things yeah and you see that's another one I'm not foodie at Walmart people seriously to survive I see of no
way man but I see you all the time at different places to eat and one of those people that gets invited to a lot of places - I don't know man people are just kind of I said my see my see you taking you doing your own cooking show I've recently just done my own cooking show has been amazing man I loved it and you know what it's isn't that like you have to be into food the one that I do
is they've got this chef he's come from flippin Mumbai like this authentic Street food chef and he does all the cooking and I do all the tasting man is his job to sawed-off cook for me when you're cooking so he does the cookie and I do the talking and eating so it's perfect for me because I've seen some snippets of it on Instagram on the insta story and I've always associated you know people who have a passion for cooking they are also very foodie you can't get that because they you know
that hence the passion kind of drives the I mean don't get me wrong I I appreciate food I appreciate well cooked food but I'm not mad about food at all like the way like a way a lot of the lads will be your guys will be like oh my god you know this oh my god to me you'll be like okay but I'm very simple give me fish finger sandwich some chips
problem yeah yeah I think we're we're gonna figure out someday we just robots [Laughter] so so man was your talk to us - I'll talk to us about this what I saw this clip recently I should have actually if it was the other Monday night sold abroad it you're rapping you you're rapping video oh what what what's that about man what's what was going down back then those are the ones I'm trying to hide you know that is actually a very very
long time ago we're talking he surprises me now and I think about how long it goes are talking about 15 years or something but it was more we me and a group of friends well like you know I've been kicked out of college I didn't go to university or anything like that so from a very young age your back you you're above these you knees man they could they can't handle your your capacity at the age of 18 obviously we never had university or anything like that to go to me and a whole bunch of friends when we started working in the
nightclubs so it wasn't so much the rapping it was more the whole music scene like I've got friends now that are certified rappers like that's what they do they actually really really well known you know so like producing producing their own records and things like it was basically all stem from the nightclub scene like when you're they you know in charge of the microphone the music leads to get on the microphones ourselves we used to rock the party you know I'm saying long time ago most human
long time a lifetime ago see you see those clips of huazi oh it's a clean shaven coming in there's the mind oh yeah the lines in the head don't mind doing it so okay there might be itself control but seriously all right so it's all a facade man it's all a facade it's the nature of this dunya it's a stool
it's just love live and it's just a facade deception so chest was he so what pulled you out of that hole you never actually went into that was there like a you know I've done a lot of interviews or have you had casts or just shots attacks and stuff with people and we always you know talked about the past and whatnot but I've never actually ever online anyway even on my own social media accounts ever told my story about when I actually did change so you know why yeah let's do
that now this is it live and exclusive people like where do we start okay so they you were late teens I take it kicked out of college kicked out of college chillin in the in the clubs doing the teaching yeah well we were more doing the beating people up on that decision rich I know the security on the promotion nights and stuff like that canister okay well that's how we started anyway I did that for about 10 years money you know when you're in that scene it's like so easy to get to get lost in it but it's like
the balance between like oh yeah in one way it's the most fun of course it's gonna be fun for God's sake it's just women dancing around and and guys dancing around and they're just probably getting high in music and what's not gonna be fun about her spa service oh I was just luring him in cafe cafe I wanted him to say yes we've got it on record
the flip side of it and you actually seem like I had lost faith in just humanity man like some of the stuff that you see in that scene and the state that you see people in and just some of the situations that we got in and like people have lost their lives you know doing stuff like that like it was actually one of the there was a whole bunch of factors that made me wanna get out of it but one of the stories actually you know a lot of people might have heard this story because I did a post about it went pretty viral and other these pages started posting you're up about it go one of the days where I
decided that I need to you know get out of this is we had an incident at the club and there was a sawed-off stampede three thousand people from a jiva club and people falling down the stairs and getting trampled on and it was our job to obviously go in and help and I remember going in and pulling out this this young girl who was 19 years old at the time and bringing her outside putting her down to the paramedics going back inside pulling out more people and when I'd come back I'd found out that she'd actually passed away in from the from the from the CD and then obviously like
from looking at her ID her name figured out that she's a Muslim girl as well so she was a you know like an African Muslim girl 19 years old you know what I mean and I remember they think him like somebody's like you know I'm not I don't know but I'm guessing that her parents probably didn't know where she was cuz this was one of those you know you get different club nights you get your normal Club nights then you get some like some of these parties that are they really dark and the type of people that come to a muscle off kind of dangerous it's like a whole different scene you get these certain urban urban lights and
I was just thinking man what a way to go and me being there every day getting into all these fights risking my life like people with knives have been shot at the club all sorts and I thought you know I I don't want to die in a club man this is something about I just didn't want to die in a nightclub and it really really affected me man and you know it's gonna affect you you're pulling out a dead body out of a nightclub but you saw I've started this this whole process where I thought to myself you know what I need to get out of Yemen and is so
crazy sounds mad like imagine going to the nightclub and you're working there with all of this like you said doing that you can think of court on the way they are started listening to Islamic lectures you know on YouTube and stuff now you know that some people are really good on YouTube in it you know must be mang and stuff like that I really appeals they are on YouTube it's it's it's it's very it's what you want to hear it's like like a boost a mnemonic booster can used to listen to all of them them talks on them YouTube
you know she's going on and imagine you listen to that I mean go on a flower slobbing like and then on the way back listen to it again so not just what did that just mess you mind up because like now you're kind of like you ruled so kind of drowning in guilt maybe you're because you're hearing all this and then going back and it was almost like you're drowning but this is the last thing you're holding on to you you're like you know what I'm not doing anything else you truly I'm not doing anything else I
might as well you know what it is it's it's stuff like that actually hits your heart man some of these talks you know the effects of the music like I said in the background and stuff like that it really does make you think and certain people the way they put it across as well it's easy to understand anyway what I'm saying is you should be doing by these things but we still had this rule of this if it was up to us we'll just change everything live a simple life and not be doing all of the stuff that we're doing you working in a club and then there's a whole bunch of other stuff that comes with that as well just going way off do you think as well that this you know this is a desensitization that
takes place when you expose to something for a prolonged min because there's a glamour you know like even if some of these clubs are gritty but it's not about the club it's about the nightlife has a glamour to it doesn't it but when you're exposed so much to eat they will naturally be a desensitization to all of the you know all of because if you're seeing it every day you're seeing let's say people the thing the music everything it it almost kind of round itself out and you're kind of yeah he takes over and you know what like
look from behind the scenes like we actually used to have these chats what you're selling is well you're not selling it but what sells is sex you know what I mean so easy sex always sells it's the number one selling factor in everything that's that's what it used to be so it's just this mad crazy atmosphere ten years and in that time countless people of seen people lose their lives even people my own friends that used to rip getting into fights injuries some of them are missing their lips some of them are missing teeth some of them don't have the same eyesight
that they used to and we were just getting into loads of trouble cos game into all the fights you end up loads of cases on you as well assault and do love this that name he was literally like one point it was like once a week the police are turning up at the door and you didn't did you did you have to go in did you spend some time in the big house other Majesties expense a vacation
holiday okay for two days one day two days cause I was just getting into a love fights at that time as well and it's not me like you know me I'm not I'm not very aggressive thank you not actually people was using it's very chill that's but somebody said is that was your from west months I believe that's correct isn't it from west months the people that time is Dan Cole chairman and you know when you're with that many people around everywhere always go in there fifty people around me and you just get into some some crazy
crazy stuff but yeah that life they it got to the point where okay this is the this is the thing now and it's a reason why don't you speak about it that much more and the people close to me will know this is within about a three full month period I lost two of the closest people to me like my best friend God God murdered he got stabbed in the brain just behind my house we were like we were early twenties we were in our early 20s at that time and a few months later you know somebody that was like my older brother he was actually my cousin but
you know we were like very very close and and he passed from from it from a drug overdose so in the space of three four months I'd lost like two of the closest people to me you know you know like when something bad happens to you or you use somebody and loads of people it makes them come closer to their religion they start going Moscow loss and then they start wearing a topi growing they'd be it never happened to me like with me the opposite happened like it made me go fully off the rails cuz immerse yourself in that kind of
stuff just forget everything peace don't want to feel anything like going out on a Monday coming home on a Thursday you know what I mean just here there everywhere wanting to do everything apart from face reality and and doing everything just to not face reality cuz when you're doing stuff like that on this police at your door for other reasons as well you're working in my club this um raised Baba but my granny grandma I've never lived with with my parents and my grandma's old school man you can imagine like deep down when you're doing stuff like that
you're still her grandson but she's not proudly and you know for me all those years it's it was just knowing what I was doing my family is not proud like I couldn't never say that this one person in my life is my grandma my mom my everything he's proud of me I couldn't say that Dyce to really mess with me like that was the one thing that used to mess with me the most bow no qualifications no degree is nothing he were just living that life like on the roads in the daytime music and then in the nighttime same thing in
the clubs and then losing two of the closest people to me he started he put me on this journey where I did get really caught up in I'm in a lot of things and I started getting into a lot of trouble but I think I needed to go through all of that and I saw it as everything that we were trying to chase where they lost their lives I felt like I needed to complete that because you've given your lives for it now I need to go and complete that so whether it's money fame or power or whatever it is I need to go and get all of these things and I
reach the stage where I did it in that scene that I was in I was from working to being a manager to employing all of my friends like at one point of comeback and I'm managing like 15 of my friends and like you know you're taking 15 guys out the hood who don't have a job and then you giving him a jog and you're all working together like we're getting to that stage and you know money's coming in in in different ways and you live in some crazy lifestyle your core team here calling there no worries in the world catch a flight whenever you want air they all around the world and it literally came down to this one day this
one moment where I remember standing on a balcony and I'm in this apartment and I look back and everything that you can everything that a man can wish for is there and I remember quite a bit a man can wish for - blew out the smoke and it was one of those moments and I said this is the life this is the life but you
know as soon as I said those words of Muhammad I felt a I felt inside me the most sadness the most destroyed that I've ever felt because why this one one thought came in my mind you know this this one pool was that none of this is worth it and it's so cliche but looking at all of these things are told to myself is this it because all of those things ask me you just want more like that's not enough that's not enough that's not enough and it's it was the thought that was killing it was killing
me inside was that if I could go back and say to those two that this isn't really much like everything that you literally gave your lives like you lost your lives trying to chase this thing and now the UM there and I see what it actually is and that it's not worth it it's like every single part of me just wanted to go back and say boys let's just stop now let's get out while we can because that that thought used to kill me the tour used to kill me that you gave your lives chasing this and I just wish I could go back and tell ya that
let's not do it and then personally that's the reason why I go so hard in the humanitarian work because I do it for the three of us you know I mean these two are gone and they ain't a thing that anybody can do for them and I feel like it's more responsibility because there's nobody else that's gonna do it for a month like a people forget yeah you know people forget yeah it doesn't matter people call you them your friend there's a rider died like they do here they take a bullet where people will tell you all of this stuff man I've got so many friends that have lost their
lives so so many is ridiculous and people forget them the same people that you know like people easily forget people and are made in my business you know what is true I can't forget even if everybody else forgets them I can't forget so you know everybody has their personal intention and so when I go out to all of these different places it's like this is for they like this is for the three of us so it's like yeah make things easy man and
me except you know you've really you've kind of like chunk deep end straight into the humanitarian thing yeah you've been obviously for many years now but right in it at it's cool you know war-torn areas Syria Iraq Africa different places I mean in in some way you see having that thing kind of passed but all being a part of it so up and you know sort of close to all of these things happening losing people that you know the drug life these kind of things then coming here now even though you are
here on a good positive project to kind of let's say to provide aid to help people but you're still encountering a hell of a lot of grief like it's not grief at you but you are being kind of your in them amidst a realm of just destruction and grief I mean doesn't that isn't that doesn't that also kind of like just eat a person up it does anybody that tells you a doesn't is lying because there's people that do what I do yeah and I swear some of them just feel like they need to be this proper macho man yeah and they'll say that it doesn't affect them if it
doesn't affect them number one they're not doing it properly and by that I mean they're not in the front line like they ain't been to the front line like where we've been yeah oh they're just lying because that will affect you how can it not effective I mean I'm being honest I've you know I've had sometimes like you've been obviously advertising a lot of you you will think telling people that you know look when you're trying to get people involved in the projects and and here's some of the other charities and I've seen things in the past where people have said look why don't you come along why don't we do something and I'm if I'm just being honest I haven't got what it takes to go there man because uh
if you put me you know I've seen some of these videos I've seen like you I've seen other people little children this that I I couldn't do it man I just can't do it like because if I was this as - it's gonna be - wrecking you know it's like I know I'm one of those people a I can't help and I don't know if this is a strength or a weakness because at times this boastful when you see someone in a situation it's like just it becomes my problem like when I'm out in these places this is why I limit myself to certain countries so there's like seven
or eight countries that have decided to concentrate on because you build relationships with people and you know why he leaves pieces of pieces of your heart in all these cuz I've seen you something you know you're conversing I've seen you the relationship you'll have they'll be little children they'll come they'll smile for you you know and you're giving them sometimes whatever it is whether it's sometimes a gift you've brought them back something special and man I honestly know it's amazing dope don't get me wrong I'm not saying in any way that this isn't something I'm I'm just being honest in the fact that I think really everybody ought to be doing
it but I don't think I could do it like it's if you're gonna if you're gonna go there and you're gonna see these things it's it's good it's got a dish you know it's gonna kind of just shatter and listen completely because especially if they're you you know it's it's easy seeing it on a screen even on a screen it's not easy but it's still you know you just walk away close the phone but if you were there knowing okay I'm gonna go back now to just chilling and you know here you've got these little boys little girls you know they haven't got anything to keep warm they haven't got this young got that this kind of stuff
is it's it's hard stuff it's hard but you can have it I could never explain how hard he actually is like you can just imagine how hard it must be book the reality of it and my whole thing is very positive so the videos that I do the way that I talk the way that I present myself and the things that I do I always try to take the positive look on on things first me because I don't want people to just give to people I have to make an example of someone I look out for this person come bad this is their and then you have to
use that that's yeah that's another thing that I don't like is how some of the a lot of the charities what they do is they guilt-trip people as well so you're gonna see somebody well you know starving to death and they're gonna be like well you know why are you paying for his food and and and they trying to make people just feel not out of compassion although compassion is is there but out of just cute that you know and bombard them with like sorrow and I think what that does is also a one it's it's so
like kind of offensive if not offensive in the meaning in a rude way Bates and it's like an an assault of emotions and to it desensitizes a lot of people as well and three I don't feel that this is the right way to do it that this whole making people just feel like sour guilty about themselves but I have seen a lot of your Clips you are in your Clips you're usually kind of like cracking jokes with some of them you're kind of getting them to do say okay can you you know you've learned how to say this now how are you and you're kind of laughing along with them and so there is that very the positive vibe is there it's a fine line though you know like how I'm
saying that I don't want to show certain things and you saying you don't like when people show certain things there's also times where we really have to show I'll give you an example just it's just the first thing that come into my head we set up this medical camp here for these for the Rohingya and we can talk about that if you are thought it was the worst thing I've ever seen in my life when we were there first people are running out of Myanmar and we had like one of my mates had paid like fishermen to take their votes and like get people into the country and stuff like literally had to lie down on the boats because snipers from that side
Ronna Xu yang can only go overnight and people are coming to us like all shut up and stuff and running for anyway this group of girls man there were 13 years old yeah this is gonna sound like one of them one of them pitches that you don't like but this is the only street like the truth is the truth you know I mean sometimes the reality is 13 year old girls coming to our medical camp yeah saying some things change with my body and I don't know what is and you guys explain to this 13 year old girl that she's pregnant because they've been raped but they don't they don't
understand and you see it's so simple I people like you mean you think are they go over there and they give people food or faced with like situations like this as well now you can imagine those girls later on the in this line and they wanna get food somebody comes over to me here and he says to me who these doll man they don't look poor and I thought to myself what what does a person have to do to look poor now hey when we grew up I remember watching these Oxfam adverts or is Oxfam or something like this but there was these African kids the grounds really dry Scrappy's like flies and
found the opium you can really see the malnutrition now people if they're not seeing that covered in blood with no parents bullets flying cast bombs falling and just rubble in the background they don't think that that person's poor now I knew the background of those girls but because they look like us like the Asian you know they dressed the same way our Asian women dress you don't know Walker since histories or what they've been from you or or anything and forget trying to help
them people were looking for excuses to not help them like you they don't even look poor well cuz they look like me and you you know what I'm saying behind you the story behind it now how can you make people help those children if you don't hit them with these stories as well you know who you are you you know you are right I mean yeah people taking advantage of it and you know I mean I've told you some stories off-camera as well of how people people take advantage and stuff like of people's emotions you know what I mean in the in the charity scene but we we
try and keep it real man and I think that's why I am able to have the trust from people that I do have people sending me money from all over the world like in the millions now alhamdulillah is just being real about it like I'm being this is the problem this is what I can do about it this is what I need from you guys and I'm being honest with you I've said this on line Monday nights when I've been asked that look about charities I've said that look as somebody who's involved in as a person who's from the Islamic kind of scene even though you
know as a Mufti let's say I personally I as a person don't have the confidence in any particular charity per se and I'm sure maybe so many of them are absolutely legit as a person but I've said but there are one or two people I mean I can't I won't lie to you I can't as a person vouch for the charity that you represent but I could vouch for you because I've seen what you've done and I would be you know if I I would be more than confident to put any kind of money I've got with you more
so than even with your charity I mean the charity you're working for I mean by your charity the one you're working for because I don't even know them but I know that some so often this exploitation the scandals there's all these kind of things but I see the actual thing on the ground like you know you actually going out of your way doing this doing that yeah man I mean it's it's a once again it's a difficult thing because Muslims according to certain surveys are the most charitable in this country and Muslim charities get you know get up I mean that they get a bit of a you know they've been building the Kuti
on their mansions yeah I've got to say on this subject well you know what it is I'm a young I'm a young guy in this scene and it's gonna get bad it's gonna get bad it's just there's these old-school ways of working there's a lot of the older generation that they run the charity scene like the people in the senior positions and wanna and their way of working their way of thinking and it's all changed even now what people expect what the public wants to see but
it's a really interesting subject man the charity won't go very good somebody just said here that said is it true was he old lives you know you know big mansion somebody said that is it true lives in a really big house yeah I I can I can personally vouch for for worse he
honestly and there's very few people I'm not saying I'm vouching is a but yeah this is the but doesn't that make you you you know you've told me some stories in the past from it was either Iraq or Syria about things like families and soldiers coming in and the way they what they're doing to the family and tormenting them and the kind of torture and rape and things like this to the extent you know I mean these kind
of things are so to hear them it's just surreal like it's obviously our imagination can imagine anything but that's all it seems to be let alone if I if you're obviously meeting these people these people are telling you stuff whilst they they must be you know breaking down into tears whilst telling you doesn't that kind of shatter your view on humanity then you know let me tell you the best way that I can do this
is if I tell you a little bit about the journey and then what somebody said to me and how it changed so like you said we work all over the world now some of the things that I was seeing is it's just it's the worst things ever like we were in Greece of all countries and there were so many refugees from across Europe and people are coming reason I went there to give people food when I got there and the burying children and we went from organizing hot food to organizing burials janazah so we'd be on the coast standing there old like is
this is this the time when the buoy had come in as a land a land so I believe it was bhadram in Turkey the beach there where he got washed up I went to that beach as a as a reaction to that from there I wanted to know where were you trying to go from here and what I found was they were trying to cross over to Greek islands so I I did it myself went over to the Greek islands and I found just hundreds of people thousands of people but not everybody makes it that's the thing so the same way you know you've seen those videos every
seemed like when the rafts are coming in and people are moving in from so I used to do that and you know a lot of the time you're pulling in people from there men women children and allow the time it's it's it's dead bodies not just floating on to the island and then you have to do you have to do something about that I remember this one particular night now that I think back it's like I used to work 24/7 so I used to have my day job which was giving our food setting of accommodation for people and all of this or stuff on the island and I do the beach patrol to pull in the
bodies and it was there when we sleep but just in between every two hours here two hours day wherever I saw off good but you know daily adrenaline off there's people dying in front of you you know I mean it's it's you're not sleeping you're just passing out now when I get from X Jos exhaustion you know I mean and I remember is this end of this one night and two things I remember is booking out this whole of this hotel and letting people stay in it
for free and the bottom floor we used it as a hot food kitchen so we're cooking hot food and we're giving everybody hot meals that's that's coming on to the island and I remember there was this one random white girl first cuz the rest of us were you know Asian Arab Muslims there was a random white girl that was caning tables and she wasn't off my team I remember going over to her and say mmm who are you he was like look I've seen what's happening on the news I've come over myself I just couldn't bear to see and I wanted to help I saw that you guys are doing this so that you're busy I didn't want to interrupt yeah so I'll -
I'll clean the tables where this is something I remember that stuck with me random like she came all the way to do that later my point is Saturday and it's the end of this night and at that point I remember sitting down stretching my arms and thinking that was a tough Damon and as I say that this man comes running and he's like help help help of made it Baba my family hasn't the gone way over we had this little speedboat and flippin Eck way out at sea and I just thought to myself at that point like I'm Patsy on a speedboat somewhere between Greece and Turkey looking for these three little kids mom his two sons and his daughter
and we never found him so like this guy he had nowhere to go and he spent a few days with us cuz we were putting a hook in the hotel honest way he never he had their passports and he just kept him like that next to his and I think he's asleep in as well he used to sleep like Batman you know in the passports on his heart his three kids two weeks later we found him on a different Island their bodies that got washed up there but you know stuff like that and then having to burry those kids moving over to to the Sirians way where our met people that were eating cats that were eating dogs
are met people that were taking the mick out of other people saying I've actually heard these words like wow you still got cats in you village we eating the grass now to that level do like people people eat him out of the sewers used to go into homes and people used to put like covers on the walls at one point because the moss is called Moss right that grows on the walls the kids kids were eating all of that stuff and they had this stuff off to start the kids doing things like that and you thought I think how
can he get any more mud then people eating cats and dogs and then everything changed and when Isis came and I was there I was doing frontline support there were so many dead bodies just lying around in the battle because the Isis guys were they on the floor and the Iraqis were they and civilians as well and this is bodies everywhere like this is the actual statistic when I was working in Mosul there was more dead bodies than there was people alive so when we're walking around there's dead bodies everywhere and I remember looking down wells the full of bodies you there's pyramids made in in houses where people have stacked bodies did men
at the bottom then women and children on top like these houses I'm going in to give them food and they the scrubbing blood off the floor like he's fresh somebody's just going into one house and finding these two orphan kids on their own the mother was days she had starved to death and what they were eating was is like hey they give it to horses and stuff like that and how to take these two kids into care and I remember as I'm taking them there's a really bad smell in the house and start looking around him I walk into this one room the dog runs up runs on the bone in its mouth stink where's that from when I go in and it
it's been eating this body it's like half a body there and the dogs are eating from it and I'm thinking flipping icon one side you got people eating the dogs and the cats and yeah you got the dogs and the cats eating the people everyone's like nobody's worrying they don't other person deserves a flippin Berean at that there's civilians soldiers also I got late once going to a hospital this all of this has got a point to it by the way I'm not just being late going to this hospital in Mosul and luckily I
was late an hour before we got there which was when we were supposed to be there the hospital gets bombed and when we go there there's one room that's in use and what they've put in there is there put an incubator the only one remaining incubator on one side of this room and there's an oxygen machine on the other side of the room and there's literally a line of mothers with their babies and they get five minutes each and like I'm a father your father's gonna be lots of people here I've got kids yet I'm that type of person you need to get those men I like
even when it's a doctor he's trying to check your kid and the kid cries and you're like trying to punch the doctor like yo you making my kid crying guys just doing his job I'm very protective like that and even MA watching my son fool over or something like that watching another kid ei hit my son I'm ready to punch this kid okay I'm protective like that the point is putting myself into the shoes of those women five minutes your child is gasping for a and you get five minutes on this oxygen machine I remember that day six or seven of those
babies died while I was there and it was just because they couldn't have oxygen like oxygen a lack of flippin oxygen I went into this other room 19 years old as a girl called shy had her face is hanging off like her jaws come off and her eyes have been burnt out and she's screaming and I'm like I'm in tears and I'm saying to somebody tell me what she said because you know whatever she would have asked for I was ready to give it to Ella and empty my pockets if it was operation I'll pay for it in that moment
you're watching this person whose face has melted off and they're just screaming in pain or whatever she wants let's make it happen when they translated it for me she was saying throw me out the window just just throw me out now but let me end this suffering what she didn't know is in the same house where the team pulled her out from her youngest brother they found him sitting on a chair like the whole body sitting on a chair like I am now but the head was caught and it was on another side of the room and it's mad cuz I'm talking to their mom and she's showing me pictures of what they
used to look like and I come out of this hospital crying and then I actually tried to go back in and they wouldn't let me go back in I don't know what was that like an explosion that a gun of the Isis Isis had occupied the city at the time and as the combination of the Kurdish from the soul of north and the Iraqi army and the US and everybody from here and then you've got Iranian influence from saws down here and then the rest of the world in the fighter jets homonym the thing about Isis tour
while we were there I didn't front line support so I was actually in motion while there while they were running the place they saved me from getting kidnapped that's a different I'll tell you about one when there's cloud cover or when they smoke the air the Jets couldn't do anything to them so they did push forward and when they push forward on the ground they just better at combat then then all of these guys I don't know how this is the crazy thing but these guys like when you see them they like this is when you say guys the ice is nice yeah here firstly they're from all over the
world there's a lot of Pakistanis you know there's a lot of Pakistanis there's a lot of chechnyans and stuff like that but then there's these random American looking dudes and they've got the tattoos and everything like they just they have to be American and those guys are like the really big ones and they really know what they doing man what they used to do they is to get one of those is it like you know drip it's called a drip right like glucose yeah yeah one of them on climb up the telephone pole and just stay there for the whole day cuz then they don't need to do anything and they're just sniper people just staying right at the top of this thing with a glucose drip attached
to them they used to have women to torture women and I don't know if this is like I don't know where did they get this from of these like a back in the day thing or whatever cuz remain I usually make them quite a woman's flesh off a bite yes a woman would like to punish the woman this Isis woman would come and literally bite chunks of flesh out then they decided oh that's too much hard work so they they got he's like met claw things that they were using at least to have this building where they used to throw people off anybody was accused of being gay whether there was
evidence or not it was this US where there was this building for the gays and they just threw him off the building like a really tall building and these guys were mad man even in the hospitals man these Isis their moms have you ever heard about an Isis mom I imagine why you got to be at Isis to it but then imagine one of their moms the in the hospitals very now like the the injured Isis women are swearing at them saying okay yeah a coward you're gonna die in a hospital go die in the battlefield you're not muscle as in there's a mummy's Pro oh she's against the Sun she's Bravo so I used to know
families where half of them are pro and half of them are auntie in the ones that are prone to be honest with the eye it's not an ideology thing yeah is there was money like they broke like these guys took in all the gangsters they they went and all the prisons got opened for him so they took all of those guys in then they took in all the local gangsters and all the local goons and then they sawed off anybody that wanted to come and make money they take them on as well but then some people they'll just go and give them weapons because you know they'll say things like this look your women are gonna get raped you're gonna get tortured we've got the same people trying to bomb us take these weapons and
defend yourself but now to the rest of the world you've become Isis as well we're really you're just trying to defend yourself and these guys in green your weapons and stuff so it's all very complicated like that my point is seeing stuff like that from dead bodies - you know is this kind of stuff this is what I'm saying when I was saying really around that I feel me as a person I feel that for me they would be no coming back from that like I feel that they would be like I would have looked into such an abyss that that
darkness I don't think I could ever remove it after that well this is why I'm coming - it's when I went and you know like hey at local schools and groups like people they know what I do you never sent me these messages on chords you know these colorful cons and there was not all these beautiful messages on there like have silver we pray for you allies with you enough tests those that he loves we're thinking about you make du'a for you so rental at all deliver this message to people will be cute you know I'm saying these messages not to those people over there
the children and all of them yes so started giving him these messages in Arabic and then laughing like while I'm telling him it will just love it translate one of the elders she stood up and the speech that she gave basically changed my life made me understand charity and this whole thing that you're talking about most about you wouldn't be able to go back this is the reason why I can't go back what she said to me next which is along the lines of she gave me loads of
examples he says look my grandkids were killed with the pool rubber tires around him and set the rubber tires and light and they were given a choice they were to watch their parents die they were given a choice do you want to see your mum die for history your dad and this happens my sister as well like kids get lined up and parents are given the choice which one of these kids you love the most we'll kill them last stuff like this happens so she was giving me examples of what she had been through you know so of things like you know we come from a place where where she's saying stuff like we sleep with our jobs on because we don't know where they were gonna be alive in the morning and if they find me then I want him to find me with my
hijama says at night we count the bombs and in the morning count the bodies you know coats like this they always talk with me Bo she says look my son we make to offer you now this part of the I don't know if she's just trying to be a hero or what I'm just gonna tell you what she said to me she goes we make du'a for you and we feel sorry for you because you know one thing that we have here is we have our iman we see every single day like my husband her husband couldn't leave the bed like his skin had come attached to the bed you know when your skin goes really thin and the puss and everything
comes out when you're on something for too long and he actually got attached a little bit I says look every single day we see that and I remember how the grandkids were killed and what our life was like and seen this person tortured and that person kill them she says look we feel sorry for you because even though this is happening to us it makes our test in this very apparent because it's death it's it's family it's it's it's disease it bombs it's bullets she says we feel sorry for you guys because you guys have got wealth you've got healthy opportunities you've got these education and
medication and your skill sets and all of these things and your test is test that you you don't even know that you're being tested over there because you go too busy feeling sorry for us what you're doing here is more for you and you should feel sorry for yourself and then another guy he said his words were a las put me in this situation because he wants to see what you're going to do about it and then a third guy literally grabbed me by the neck and he says I'll grab you on the day of judgment yeah I will grab you on the day of judgment if you don't go out there
and tell the world my story because I'm convinced the world doesn't know my story because if the world did know my story they'd be doing something about it he was convinced that his situation just people didn't know and he was saying make sure you tell him make sure I'm gonna grab you on the day of judgment I'm gonna grab you on the day of judgment if you don't do it so now me being able to see everything that we've just spoken about and I have to give you some of those graphic examples but the point is at the end of it and I told you at the star about my personal intentions and reasons and my journey I see all of
this as my test and here you know what people are going to go they've got their tests as well but I remember and I remind myself stuff firstly everything that I'm doing or that I'm seeing or when I'm in a situation with someone is my test so I'd even do little things like you know they say hadith where this the top hand is better than the bottom hand yeah when you're giving somebody something your hands at the top so I train my team too even when they're giving something to somebody to put their hand at the bomb if the top hands bare because it's a reminder for us think about it we're giving off
thousands of free packs in a with each one you're reminding yourself they do the actual beneficiary here you know there's that little quote I say sometimes that you know you might temporarily be fixing somebody's dunya but by doing that they might permanently fix your hero someone like me I know the sins that are Vidal in my life and the life that I've lived I can do all the good deeds on what is never making that is never it's just not possible so my thing is this I'm literally banking on and this is why I call it mission 1 million uneven million
people out there to be making off for me that's my thing and when it's my time to be judged what I'm gonna have on my skills it ain't enough I know that to be honest billion oppressed people out there on that day step up and they're like you know what I'm a witness this is what I'm trying to create this is my only and personal mission I understand now that this is for me I'm not the sustainer or not wants to feed people he can feed people their affairs are in in in his hands I've gotta do my best I've gotta do what I feel like now I'm destined to do cuz I've done a lot in my
life and each one of those things built me up in a different way in order for me to be able to do what I do today this is why I want to do this until the day I die and I've had offers to do other things but I really really honestly feel like this is my destiny it has to be because it's the only thing you know you're amazing it's not even you're not even good man you epic are you honestly will I I mean I I feel that it's not about the the things like the you know the from the religious side that they are or the past
I feel that that you know obviously Allah sees anyway and and that no matter how high that was stacked up I don't think that really is you know kind of weighed against you considering you know the stuff that you've actually been through and done here I feel that all of that doesn't even you know an ounce of this but it's not even for me as a person that sees what you're doing it's not even about that that's your personal thing for me I see that you are standing toward to a mission that I was just being honest that most of us
and I put myself in that that despite knowing how necessary it is I would just be honest that I feel that I would just break in in the face of it I don't think I could I think you know if I saw these things I think it would just break me and and the fact that you can do it and can carry on definitely when you if you've been cut out for this one this is this is the greatness that you've I think you say that now well I think if you actually did it then you also know that you're able to do something about it as well no there is not there is something about it does help you to to get on with it
no IIIi I do feel that absolutely it's the it's the goodness and that even if it's you know even if it's so little it's not changing the grand scheme of things but it's still that qualitative joy isn't like you're seeing that that child's eyes light up when you're giving something you're seeing that and that is ultimately the meaning of life man I mean that is you know sorry I totally I give opportunity as well like some of my friends that you know like they've comma
are present and the charity is really hooked on that is really really help them stay on track and not go back to you to the life that they were living before and then even like you know everybody around me to see what even you know like some people like you saying they can't go there and do anything about it but everybody like that woman said to me is blessed with a different skill set so we've got like we've got kids that know how to make cakes they'll make cakes and go on the street and sell them and we've got makeup artists I will remake of master classes
and we've got restaurants that will donate free meals and whatnot it's like every like all of this is an opportunity for all of us as well you know what I mean like everything that's happening over there on this side is an opportunity for us to do all of these good deeds as well but also find the purpose in life as well and sometimes if you're somebody like me it's like I've been through so much in my life unlike even with like PTSD and mental health because this is what I'm thinking
even this not not that this should deter you but I'm just saying even this would the PTSD from even this this it's it's it's undeniable and then the thing is this you see because like when you see let's say you see this you come back to an inverter here you are in Birmingham or you're in yeah you're in Allan rock or wherever you are here you're walking around the city centre nobody around you really is can kind of like relate to that experience generally speaking so you are in a world of your own you're
just like you know you've you're like kind of spiraling and other people are just other people are just worried why why have I only had you know like 102 likes on my photo like why haven't I had like 500 likes I'm here depressed like before we went live I told you what I was doing and I was like man this is why this is what I do this is how we are and Yemen
al hamdulillah it's it's been I think she's just stopped and you're not even that old you disclose your age 33 ah the age of Jesus huh we look at that when Jesus came to Jerusalem people and the mission it's concluded that 33 isn't it
yet flow in my white my white home I've been to certain countries most year like we talked like some without the comic button remote areas where people have come out and started going Jesus Jesus families in in Kenya active I was in a zoo and it was forget the attractions there was a line of people waited to take photos with me so people were coming giving me their children I would hose with their baby and they take a picture and they'd go and they'd just be like Jesus you know what's really interesting actually
really embarrassing moment for me by such it's so beautiful as well so powerful I went to northern Ghana just north of tamale really really remote area I went to this village because they needed a I needed a machine built and I went there and the entire village came out and started crying can you imagine an entire enemy's offlaner I'd be like he had he camera the white man he's come back oh and I spoke to them their old man that was holding my hands and he was
trying to kiss my hands he was saying to me they are the store like Islam's pretty new over there with you it says the stories that we've heard you got to remember I didn't look like this I had along a be at the white oak I think the stories that we've heard of prophets and Sahaba descriptions that we've got and you know you know this Middle Eastern looking guy with the hair and the beard and the foam and everything they thought was an embodiment nobody thought this is a reflection that they had seen they saw which of the prophets of the Quran has
come here to visit was the whitest Mazzio it's quite a very fair-skinned in real life yeah so just in case you can't see on the camera that was not for me my people they were saying to me I wish my granddad got to me yeah like these are old old men and the same thing and the people just looking at me and crying anarcho you know what this is this love that they've got four and then you find out just because you accidentally had cut off the internet supply of something as you walked in you like don't worry I know I'm here they like
when you just get off that wire that's incredible you know what let's people if you want to pull some questions feel free to do so we'll post him to was I'll read him up it says somebody says that he you know as I'd be saying top guy was inspired me into charity work Marshall a strange guy though as he puts ketchup on his Javal and stuff like that do you put ketchup
on your Javal I have to seriously to tone it down a bit like if my mom's made a curry with some rice or I have to add ketchup oh I've never heard of anybody mixing ketchup with curry but that's curry rice ah I remember years I can't even remember what it was but as a kid I watched some TVs it was some kind of TV
series I think it was Australian where one of the guys used to put ketchup with his ice cream and I remember thinking what all right so did was come across any Yazidi women who were enslaved by Isis a lot of experience with the Yazidi community but you know at the time in in all I didn't know what they were about : is that these guys are uzb and they were actually very impressed by by Isis and one of my colleagues Jen she's to do quite a lot with them she used to do
she's to do a lot with them or I'm not really sure what their beliefs are somebody was telling me a little bit later there was something very different the implant experiences have done you know what they are persecuted along yeah I mean the you see the my understanding is I thought they were kind of a break let's see it's a no I mean that wouldn't be but I think they've got the whole religion is quite different isn't it seen us because I think the God of the Yazidi is called Mallick toes and he's
considered God's alter ego inseparable from him and but yazis ism does consider itself monotheistic but I think it may be have some links to the old I was assuming maybe the rest rien kind of thing but yeah so okay so you did see that when you were there don't leave anybody alone don't leave anybody alone we went to see him you know there's a Masjid in Iraq Mosul where they say that the prophet yunus erase alarm is buried
and people going passed away and our friend telluric jumped out the car you got remember the city is occupied by Isis if nobody around it's a ghost town I mean there's no people there where are the people no people evacuated so the the civilians are left I've gone to refugee camps so I say it's this empty city that's like a playground for this war houses are rubble the bridges have fallen schools all gone universities gone hospitals gone craters in the road
no water for the entire city so unicef we were doing a job for them we were taken in like these 53 tankers of water every day go away my point five million liters of water or something like that and we go in in filling in these tanks on the roads and then people would come to the tanks that was still some people are still living there and i was scattered about had nowhere else to go they'd come to the tanks and take the water so we're doing that way in ghost town and kelwick he is about hope he doesn't mind me telling this story he is about prophet yunus la slums
buried they heal junks out gets his phone out and he's like he's exactly like this and he goes assalamu alaikum no be Yunus now what we were told in a bit of our training is is these guys like they like I don't know what the right word it for him is mercenaries or bounty hunters or what they like they're not the army they're not the police they the groups of individuals that are armed it's lawless they're going around taking what they want they're going into a house is taking what they want a vigilante kind
of low going yeah they're not doing good stuff like they're doing bad stuff as well but they're also very anti Isis like they're fighting Isis it happened to be shiaa by the way so me looking like this looks like look like you just need a Cunha abou something and they'll be like but daddy's here but daddy's here himself whole different story man you know the abuse that I gave some of these countries from from Muslims because he look like one of those hard
cool Mujahid look in in the whole mood he got to Iraq first the guy goes to me thank you be it back where it came from we don't won in this country also flipping it this is a rocker just stick it back in my skin thank you Mary the second guy MA industry says to me so we're you ready to die yet welcome he goes listen if you want to save lives you can have to risk your own and these guys are writing letters to their families in case they don't come back it was really dangerous maybe so
they did all of that so these guys jump out on us at the Masjid nobody Yunus one is buried somewhere and they dragging all of us out the car one-by-one big guns masks on wearing all black and where I'm sitting I'm sitting at the back all the way on the left and they're dragging people out the right so I know I'm getting dragged out last and I know when I see when they see me yeah I tell Vic's a white boy you know I'm saying I figure the other people that we were wait they're bit they're the locals they rocky I talk when they see me Bingham totally they're gonna put a bullet in me they're gonna think I'm from I'm from that so why
wouldn't they I'm flipping I'm in Iraq and I look like this yeah I'm thinking I got no chance I can see the rest of my colleagues they're looking at me like so I'm like they're like we're screwed are you're really screwed we're having a crap day but boy they're gonna be like do more humanitarian work labonz
as they dragged me out and I'm the last one out and my life flashing before my eyes I'm thinking the rest in my training I've been told these guys kidnap you ransom torture they're gonna be here if they don't get the money they're gonna kill ya some guy comes on a moped well I open and he's going drone drone drone everybody stops and you can hear I'm looking off and I can't see nothing backing hearing people probably you know nowadays you get these camera drones they are so if you ever had one of those
above you you know what I'm talking about Isis a one kilometer away the only thing separating us is a river there's a river that goes through the middle of Mosul we're on one side of the river they're on the other side they flew this drone over it's got a grenade attached to it and now we're standing still and we're just waiting for it to drop it drops and the shot blows okay down the road hits the shop the shop closed oh we've hit the ground I'm on the floor the ground shaking my heart shaking everybody's shaking somebody start shooting us sort of Isis guys I shoot
you Nurse Corps over my back against the wall now on either side of this wall it's like it's a house so in either side is that anyway so through that anyway there's a gap they're shooting at us so I can either pull it's going past my ears these guys got the guns and they start firing back now they're firing this way Isis are firing that way we're flipping stuck in the middle somebody run to the car get to the car somebody else goes don't go to the car if you go to the car the car becomes the target so now I'm stuck hey thinking what shall I do in this
situation these guys want to kidnap us these guys want to kill us we're just hiding behind these walls trying to get cover don't know when the next drones gonna come ice wave on the scariest and you know they know adrenaline nothing are it was scary much I forgot sake at least give me some goddamn adrenaline at this stage just like oh my god this is it this is how I go out and somebody's made a run to the car and when he's made a run to the car everybody's just ran to the cause you never didn't even bother opening the doors gone through the
windows you know like that dodging craters in the ground buildings bridges collapsing and the hold of us so they took us to a base you were in the car going so they came in because intercepted us took us to the base go out just on the floor I remember them giving me water came back the story was all over the BBC and stuff like that I'm still in Iraq they woke up the next day
and did it all again people be like okay that's one close encounter with I'm not doing another dance you know situations like that is only after once for the first week or two hours all right after two weeks it really hit me what the heck was are doing like I got scared afterwards I suppose that's the realization kind of sinks and it takes a
while to let things sink yeah it's not even one of those you want this is why hardly tell the story it genuinely scared me man didn't they do the Iraqi army think with about you Bearden you being Isis or something yeah they were the ones that were giving me the abuse I was studying ever no but I mean when they rescued you yeah well what happened is originally when I first got they they weren't gonna let me into the country there was some guy who's got the same name as me apparently he's Kurdish or something and he's is a terrorist so and his middle name is my dad's name it's like that
much of a coincidence just don't say he was also used to work in a nightclub because then then would just when it's gonna be difficult to buy this one give me a tough sell used to rap someone from the UK reached out to me and her uncle is somebody that's very high up in the army there okay so I got hold of him went to see him he printed us some of these letters of permission and stuff from that day forward any time he's not gay me grief at checkpoint and stuff like that I'd show them the letter and
they quickly back off cuz this guy was like they do Borneo that is the state land where these soldiers they got so used to me and I'm a very talkative person die out go and talk to anybody I tried to keep away from the soldier's though it's not a great look you know humanitarian soldiers it's they're doing a job we're doing a job they're very separate and I try not to mix with them too much but these guys is funny man like they'd pull up in their tanks and be like was he'll come and I just go sit in a tank with them and drive around I never used to like it because I used to think deep down inside these guys are
probably about to go and kill the people and whatnot but I had to work with them you know it's their country they're letting you in to do the job that didn't work that's the politics in it as a humanitarian we stay clear of all of the I stay clear of it anyway we just save lives feed people and make sure somebody somebody has asked here that are there any are there any specific charities that you recommend I mean you're on what you're involved in so what should I do it's it's like it's different charities specialize in different things that's
that's the best way to put it so it's not that there's one charity that does everything great and there's not one charity that does everything bad each one of them so specializes somewhere wherever they bring their effort I mean you're you're involved with just in case people don't know human relief foundation ISM and human relief foundation is set up in 1991 as a result of the Gulf War and all the work was being done in Iraq this is why I'm so active in Iraq because HR F started out they had a base and a foundation and it comes to Iraq where the number one so any things that people would want to do in Iraq
I'd recommend they go human relief foundation they're Syrian refugees in Jordan again human relief foundation and then the water projects in in Africa human relief foundation those three are so of our strong points and then other charities they're great with education are the charities do more Islamic things like mosques and stuff and some charities do asks churches everything and they specialize in different things there's no one charity that can recommend it to anybody like even now with Yemen this charities out there are really really great with Yemen sabah
relief being one of them right okay you know on that note was he have you been to Yemen with the with the crisis there I haven't gone it's the only place that we work that I haven't gone and that's because we were trying to cover so much things in one goal its allocated so kelwick again Yemen was like his thing and I do like Iraq Syria Pakistan and the rest else I didn't kill week for those we don't know I don't care
this there is a lot of chat chatter that's kind of like surfaces on social media that the situation in Yemen isn't actually bad or as bad as people are making it out it's just this is propaganda I mean it's the situation I mean this is what I was asking if you'd actually been there with you know people that have been there what what is it is it because I was just reading yesterday people some people on Instagram and on other things there was a certain post saying look this is just propaganda to make the yemeni thing and to take advantage of this that that there are is something going on but it's nothing near
the tragedy that people are making out both from people from the many poorly depends on who you ask him if you ask in a humanitarian somebody who wants you to send aid they're gonna say to you is the worst thing that you've ever ever ever ever seen well we're not talk to more people that are involved in the humanitarian rich businessmen or locals that are happened to know or what not they have the other union that it's not as bad as it's being made out to be and I take everything now with a pinch of
salt like after again going back to Isis you're Isis are nothing much like I'll give you this example to use there Isis nothing they know what they the way that they portrayed in the media is they made so much bigger badder scarier than they actually are and I guess that's because people have a certain agenda you make them seem like a huge massive threat there he scares people over here people over here are scared they're gonna listen to what you I do and then you can go you can bomb whoever you can take over this bank and
you can do it's scaring people but I don't really know what how that would apply in Yemen but I'm just using the example of Iraq and Syria where Isis are made out to the West to be a lot more scarier than they are so but wait in those countries then Iraq and Syria there is it was literally a kind of hellhole destruction if you know like you were saying bombs and murderer and all this kind of stuff like a genocide so who is that just because of a vacuum of power that everybody is doing it to each other if it's not it's a setup all
of this thing was a setup move Sunni stronghold in Iraq say is a Sunni stronghold so if there was gonna be resistance against the Shia government wherever I was probably gonna stem from Muslim one day 400 Isis troops turn up and take the entire city we're talking about tens of thousands of soldiers policemen security in the tens of thousands four hundred men or less
turn up take the entire city the entire region all their weapons and everything that they left behind these people were told to leave it behind Mosul was given to Isis from my knowledge from speaking to people on the ground it seems to be that they gave them Mosul then allowed them to attract people from the rest of the region and the rest of the world bring them all to one place and then smash them
so it's like what you call what did they call in an entrapment like a honey trap yeah so give it to them so they bring everybody else there it becomes their hub which which became where the only video I think where Abu Bakar Baghdad Eid and his little speech and that that was in Mosul so that was one of the mosques that I went to they still funnily enough when I went they they I found the register where they had written down the name of each person that had given bail to him no way it was a register of and you just
like hey this is a an autograph bootless slimy like they just want feedback let's sign these people seriously it was just given to them and the locals find it very very strange but the local so off like it's just crazy politics of the phrase ippolit crazy politics this could go into it so much but it's such a facade it's such a flippin facade on the
rest on the world and then not only give them this power but then make it seem like that powers like a hundred times waste like something will happen in Finland and they'll say these guys did it then guys I don't see they must be lifted like the apparent people they too much credit not likable yeah if you make um seem very capable and they always a threat if they're always a threat the population is always I think part of what nation is I think part of what added to that was you know the the kind of HD latest technological
video productions they were doing and when they were kind of like it so this was giving without saying it it gives the immediate impression that these people have reach and capacity and intelligence and technology and infrastructure because how are they in like do you remember the one where they set up this kind of this this thing that goes off as a dynamite trail and it kills all the people who's around their necks and different methods like coming out with okay we're gonna have one less a drowning cage and one like something out of a Saw movie that the way there and underwater cameras we're gonna have it's like knit but
bloody else it's like look at the healthy you know it's the some crazy and I think that's what gave the allowed people to believe that they are so larger than life because if they've got these thin year then whereas if they're just some moolah sitting in a cave exactly you know what we'll never know yeah I do know where they came from when they weren't like nobody knows even they don't know that's the thing it's like it's like they've got this pyramid scheme and he's like the Illuminati when you're on that level you don't really
know so I'm on the ground like even those guys that are like they like you know just the average troop he doesn't know anything about legenda anything he's just trying to make a bit of money no somebody said McCandless mr. AK Alice said good day I am NOT a Muslim however I live in a western country and the Muslims over here who are guests are always aggressively demanding that Sharia law should rule it in an intimidating manner why this mentality for I mean mr.
Curless I would agree with you that I think that's just ridiculous and absurd behavior and I think people just sometimes don't know what they're actually asking for you know you give people slogans and they just say they don't know what it might be we want Sharia law we want Sharia law and it's interesting sometimes to just ask them okay so what is Sharia law and and you know that they've only memorized like four five things like they'll say chop the hand of the person because they've memorized that and they'll say like Stone this person and then you say well okay okay put the criminal four or five things you know aside the criminal justice code okay what else is Sharia
and and they won't know like honestly I ask you that ask people that what is Sharia then okay fair enough you got that for dude they're capital punishments and things put them aside what else is surely I isn't it like is there more to it isn't it what about buying selling what about transactions Commerce what about economic what about you know isn't this a huge pot what tell me something about yeah nobody really knows that these things just a slogan it sounds good to kind of rally a crowd so yeah I I wouldn't hang greased koi as well that makes the best TV this is one people need to understand so a screaming
face you mean with the guy going here the best TV so often you see the story that's chosen for the news or for the newspaper even for the internet like what makes the best post what gets the most likes is controversy so you always pick the angriest guy and people think that everybody's angry then got really but cool like me and Mufti right so increase somebody long paid him living
in America okay right let's see the questions people somebody yep clay Jones had posted about yep I didn't kill week that's who yep when he's when we said we said that chef had him kill week that's who was I did exactly the same from the locals Iraqi army are scared of the beard yep we covered that guys feel free to post any of your comments and questions and I'll because why he okay it can't see them I've got a read him out to him so somebody said okay they
love the show what are there any movies that inspire you as you look at that there's a guy with a decent question and his name is human being just in case we thought for a moment I mean was that I mean was it could it be a Neanderthal that got on there and made himself a YouTube account could it be a different species could it be an octopus could it be no it's a human being well blimey but that's an awesome question what movies inspire you as you what's going down without me I'm not one I'm not a movie person seriously I'll go to the
cinema can't help or fall asleep no way Yeah right or watch a movie series TV series don't at the time with FEMA you know comedy I just started watching just last night I haven't finished it this tank is a cool tank it's it's about these group of friends who they carry on this tradition where every year the month of May they have to tag each other and they take it so seriously if it's actually quite funny it's it's on prime action like yeah I'm not really too much
of a TV and movie person okay guys we watched every film that used to watch on an aeroplane you know cuz I traveled so much all the airplane films I've watched somebody said that's because your life is a movie look at I doing it man Wow ah it is it's more than a movie right so any plans for deployments are there any future plans coming up or what's what's the scope so that's my main thing I take groups of people I go myself and whenever I can I take people with me all
around the world but at the moment you guys know as much as I know we don't know when we're gonna be allowed to move it's it's two things no you need to think about I'm a sign it's not just when is it safe for us to travel but when is it safe for us to see those people it wouldn't be the greatest idea for me even though I feel I'm fine it wouldn't be the greatest idea for me to walkie to account with a million people in there for their safety so until it's totally safe force that would be tragic if they if they if they survived all of that and then your germs
kill them that would be they survive some of the greatest tragedies known to mankind and then was here turns up and just coughs makes they that's how it got to Gaza it was an aid worker yeah I heard somebody saying is where's that question girl right do you feel that right Oh somebody this was an interesting one how much of our
donations actually go to the charity percentage-wise do you know any of this yeah yet so see all of this year it's totally down to how people with it so the hundred percent donation policy kind of doesn't exist and people people don't know these people they they think that when they hear a hundred percent donation policy they think that's better yeah where it gives that impression
other way around yeah so 100 percent donation policy means is and you know you know charities down because their donation policy people don't know this somebody's gonna pay those costs so what they do is they collect money and they passed all that money on after they've you know taken from the gift aid or whatever you know without affecting the hundred percent there's a bit extra they contains they passed that on to another charity to then implement it like they'll collect for Yemen for example they'll give that money to a charity in Yemen who then has costs distributing it
so this charity hasn't taken those costs and we have said to you it's a hundred percent but what that means is it's a hundred percent for you we're gonna make somebody else pay for it do you get it and I just be selfish if you actually realize what you're doing when you're when you're donating to a charity there gives that has a hundred percent donation policy is you're saying don't don't don't take any admin from me admins used on really good things admin is what generates more money and if you look at the research Wall Street and stuff like this the best the most effective Charities of the ones with the higher admin cost it
doesn't make sense you to do effective work you need to have an admin cost and the shame is that that admin cost is not explained to people properly people take it as a negative people think that it's something taken away from their donation where it's not it's you're still buying the food and everything that you've paid for but you're taking this few pens to give to this charity to train people to do proper needs assessments to do proper safeguarding to work in the most efficient way to actually find ways to save money we spend a bit of money first
it's actually way better to donate to a charity that has a bit of admin cost because they're using that little money to generate millions of pounds but there's no way that you can get the pin and they'd have no idea what they're doing they don't like the kind of being lied to they're not being right it's just like it it says I feel that these things are often a selling strategy ain't they like
I mean I would understand if there's like let's say there's an immense but it comes back to trust isn't trust issues in it everybody's got trust issues it comes back to like if a person thinks look I'm giving the hundred pound and if from this hundred pound fifty pound it's just going to kind of line the pockets of you know some person so you can just chill on it here we can build his own lifestyle and maybe 50 pound he look you forward then I don't want to just pay for this guy to have a lavish car or I want to help the poor so in that sense I
can understand that concern and because sometimes some charities this scandals and things like this but when it comes to genuinely several charities will say well actually you know this much percentage let's say 15% or whatever it is ghost words at costs and it goes to somebody has to pay those hey you know at the end of the day that is a an inevitable cost would be I told of what we had to do to take water into Mosul just water now risking your lives bombs bullets the abuse that you
go just everything involved you've got a risk somebody's gotta go and do that you know I'm saying but what I'm saying is this admin cost isn't just that people think that is just a wage know where does the training come from safeguarding working in an efficient way making sure that your distribution isn't the age there's other things as well here like the district because I've heard in the past like people tell me that when they're in certain places they have to pay to get certain things done like let's say they're in that country so and no I don't just mean like pay a wage I mean even like people will say well if you want to distribute this this is gonna cost you this much this is gonna like even though these things you know
they shouldn't really be like that they should be welcoming but it's unfortunately the cruel nature of the world isn't it happens I've been in places where the local governor has come and says if you want to distribute here you give everything to me and I distribute it because I need these people to vote for me and if you don't give it to me you can't do it so you have to sort of take a back seat you just make sure that the Abe gay now but you've gotta give this guy you've gotta let him take credit for it because there's no other way he just won't allow you to do it like the levels of corruption are mad and you know there's
a lot wrong in the charity scene but we're not blaming the public enough we're not blaming the donate the people that donate they're always picking up the charities is you guys that are to blame as well you guys have created this mess you guys that haven't researched what you're doing you guys that don't understand why you're doing you guys that here 100 percent donation policy and think that that's something that's better you guys and I'm not it's probably not all your fault because nobody's explained these things to you but this such a lack of education in the charity scheme that if people if people
understood it they'd realize what the actual problems are we were so caught up on these little little things that there's bigger problems that we as a community can all deal with together that's how these charities are gonna perform the best is by us all coming together not just always criticizing this this and this because often just criticizing the wrong things but there's a lot of work to be done and my personal goal is when I came into it my uncle's my cousin's everybody was like why you want to go do this with the charity charities like this charities are like that and then one of my uncle's he says okay you know what if they are like that
then you have to go because the only way you're gonna change it is from the inside so go work your way up and if the charity seems not great now you being in there for 10 years get that experience and that's the only way you're gonna be able to change it you can't just change it like this go in there change it slowly slowly slowly in the time that I've been here now already we've made so many changes and inshallah like I said we're still New York me and the T we were about the same age we've got the rest of our lives that we're gonna do this I guarantee in a few years from now the charity scene is gonna have
huge changes a lot of them are gonna get shut down purely because they're not because they're they're doing trolled or some I mean because the way that they're working just isn't gonna be relevant anymore it's gonna be less people and it's gonna be more educated people people that know what they're doing and they will turn everything around and it definitely will be come back the way that way there is there is hope people there is hope somebody says Wow early Dawa is a millionaire a few people asking about our owes me about he owes
me money from does he know and you know I don't know how much I can say put it this way he opens more money than he's got and that's not because he's like done anything wrong he just he helps out so many people and I don't want to get into it I don't want to sing his praises or expose anything or whatever there's nothing bad it's actually a very very
good thing but believe me I leave Dawa anger pound for chips absolutely and you know a lead over very well I mean somebody here earlier on had said that or was he was a good friend of Ally Dawa so these claims of somebody had mentioned here about a leader and and making I think six million from charities or something oh that's BS let me explain you know you know what's happened they okay I wish they released it I'll tell you how stupid this is a li de zhua shares my
videos yeah so when he's shared a video of mine and a donation link the person has clicked on it seen human relief foundation gone on to Google how much does human Relief Foundation make a year six million what they've taken from that is that Ali Gauhar gets six million from charity so they thought the person struck me I thought that this whole charities actually Ali da hua's and the six million was generated it's not full human relief foundation it's for Ali da WA that's where that figures come from right okay so there was actually some Wow I just thought that was a random
thing but there's some kind of a misunderstood warped story now guys I mean even though look no matter how much you disagree sometimes with people I would disagree obviously and he would they would disagree with me on many opinions but either this kind of stuff is all baseless about them scamming money and things like that as far as I'm aware so thoughts on the bird on Birmingham's Gant gang culture what is he or what's going down with gang culture man you know my opinion on this is probably gonna surprise a few people but you know
how recently everybody saying is godless yeah this is my frie mother - yeah I think we've had this come from before it's going way better way better compared to how it used to be me growing up as a teenager there are so many stabbings so many shootings what the difference is now is that it's on social media you hear about it so it's not that Birmingham's gone with it really really hasn't what has happened is kids are doing things from a younger age so that has changed but I think that there's less stabbings or maybe I'm older and when I was utilized to be you know see
all the time but I really do think that it hasn't got worse I think he used to be a lot worse I was banned from the city centre when I was in my late teens I could not go to the city centre with more than one person who could only walk in a group of two I couldn't wear the color green and go to the sea he said that was such a random it was back there you have these gangs that affiliated with colours okay so there was these guys that were from hands with and they'd they'd have these like red colored bandanas okay you know took my
like the shield Punjab and the not that far back another awesome burger bar John alright okay okay so you know they saw of the next generation they were called something else on something on so they have the red in hands with they had the blue and so of Aston law cells then we arm from they had the green and small Heath had the purple and another they had different colors for different areas these gangs did so where I was from because I was a well-known face from that area if I was wearing green
I was inciting you know you're rapping rapping your area they bloody ell there you go but we have had that discussion and I can kind of see what you're saying actually that I think sometimes it's it's more your face and larger than life like like it's it has a like you you think it's so much they plus news needs just bad news isn't it it's just no but no news is gonna
sell with good news so and with the amount of kind of media outlets that are competing to just just give off news just so they get more of a kind of audience and an engaged audience so it's constantly you're seeing everywhere like oh my god oh my god oh my god oh my god so yeah I would find out there's a lot more cameras about so people are actually doing less like look if everybody never had a mobile phone on them and if there wasn't so much CCTV there'd be a lot more stabbings going on I'll tell ya like I think to myself how many times have not done something I'm
not on about crime I know something because you feel like you might get recorded I don't now and you've turned down a mission then your friends the silly things that we used to do now you can't even do so and see things around your friends because their record here and you'll be on Instagram tomorrow so all of these things combined I really don't think it's gotten any worse Birmingham is Birmingham we have a lot
of issues and I definitely think more can be done one you know what really takes me osco is the people that they send to do it man they sent like me growing up these to send these guys in like the guys in suits that were like talking in a certain way and I've never been to the hood in their life this guy is meant to come and give me a motivational talk about why I should have been broke like until this day those guys down on that payroll yet that calm and speak to these kids and I don't know like it's like a setup it's
like why don't you send the right people why don't you see the people that the kids honor I can relate you gonna listen to yeah but instead they keep sending this I don't want to get into a corporate suit funny and they using the wrong ways that's again another rant so was he oaken somebody's asking more about the ISIS stuff I don't know if you want to go back into that there's a question it's a question the question
saying why CEO can you elaborate on Isis military armory are they using American or Russian military grade equipment they're using equipment that isn't even in Iraq you understand that they're using weaponry that the Iraqi army deserve they have constructed underground networks I mean I mean under the ground tunnels under the city of Mosul to move things around and to get around you know to dig those tunnels the machinery that it takes is not even in Iraq how did he get there the guns the weaponry that
they've got wasn't in Iraq the Iraqi army did not have it how did it get there these guys are very advanced is this coming back to that thing you sing around big politics yeah yeah so the locals used to tell me about you know these guys that fight each other they the I'm not trying to be political I'm just saying we offered say is it is man were Americans and the ISIS used to fight each other in the day in the evening they'd say we'd see them go up the same mountain these guys would have meetings but then come
back and so they're very they don't believe anything they they they very they've not fallen for in Iraq they're not for for it and you know what they don't they don't even have that much beef with them like what was that what was that TV series the one that actually portrayed some of this really well in in the you know the CIA operatives the lady in homeland homework homeland homeland season four I was stepping yeah but it was epic to demonstrate the kind of the
way the kind of back the backhanders that go on and how the deals that are cut behind closed doors and politics at play and like the Haqqani network and how they actually you know when it comes to it the CIA are fine with them you know the cutting deals and like something like that happened recently with you know the Iranian guy that got killed by the Americans with the drone oh yes yes they should in retaliation the Iranians bombed yeah military base or something that was one of those behind the scenes ones you know I spoke to people from there and they
told me literally what was gonna happen they were like look on this side these guys now have to do something they have to show that they've done something so the Americans have given him this empty base to bomb so these guys are gonna be like hey we did that and then it's all behind the scenes okay you like to take your public's happy I go yeah I mean that's you know this is what politics is isn't it this is the it's a crazy world dirty right so
right people what's going on payday best way to make a difference in the life of a in the life of a youth is by instilling real fear okay I'm not sure whether that's what that's in reference to but that gaudy sob from the mother saw I think the car is obscene still enough but is it still us know is it still us fighting each other
I guess it's just a lot of politics and a lot of confusion isn't it and you just have a void with this a power vacuum and you just put a bunch of people throw a bunch of weapons and have a bunch of agendas the rest will just happen on its own I think that's what makes it so crazy is when people think about a war or you think about a fight you think about two sides don't you a war is this side versus decide but with Syria and Iraq is so complexed you've got ten different sites everybody with their own agenda it's all just crazy bull I remember I remember watching a brief
clip that was on social media at one point where you're saying well oh oh are you confused about the Syrian situation and by the time the clip finishes you're definitely confused it's like well they're playing this but they are an ally with them who by the way hate them but who are still an ally over here well and it's like what the hell so exactly what you mean yeah somebody's asked do you feel is Bashar al-assad the best for Syria right now do you have an opinion on that there you go somebody said most he ever lays how can
you be a Musti with earrings on it's good to see the you know people are like you've told all these stories of these kind of like life death experiences and and what weight they damn have I missed is who is he gone with he gone who do you see damn I have to get his name oh here he is Ming coulis nin coulis so he says but the thing that he takes away from me is
wait a minute mostly a veneer ring Isis Isis Nevada you know I've got a whole detailed video on YouTube about earrings if you put my name in and type earrings I've got a very detailed elaborate video going through all the rulings you can check that out there right so what's your view on Shamima Begum have you got a view on show me my Begum show me my baby she's that kid that stuck in Syria yeah I thought I thought she's dead yeah she's not dead she wanted to
come back last year or sometime sure should be my Bacon's dead isn't she did she die isn't she the one that got and of like bombed or something and they said well she died and because I'm seeing yesterday them saying oh show me ma Begum has been approved to come back and I thought I'm sure she died am i mixing know what maybe they've got that there's more than one with the same name or maybe I'm just mixing it up right so right what's going get her back don't
her child died ah right okay oh I see yeah okay so that's my bad for mixing that up then right so what people any-any I know we've kept was he awake for so long he iced if you got any burning questions feel free to put them through people making a lot of comments on the same thing what's your view Shamima Begum mostly ask him about is here washer I don't know what to ask him about is hey what is that is the question hey was he my hair is also
curly but but it don't fall down like yours will it eventually pressing questions here the question is do the head to the curtains March is they Kirlian over that's what the person wants to know always ask me about my hair I find it really weird when guy is in it they inbox me on Instagram and they like bro what's your hair routine a lot of ghosts me I shower every four
days bo that's it think to my head I think you know like the filters or whatever Instagram or whatever sometimes they make it look shiny honestly don't do anything to my head the Yeomen guys if you stop in boxing and spamming his inbox with sliding into his DMS about his head this is like freaking everyone else [Laughter] alright do you feel that somebody said is the situation in Iraq getting better
Iraq is overshadowed by Syria does it next to each other you always hear people talking Sunni a Samia Samia Samia Samia since 2011 there's been conflict Iraq when did they go with Rock 2003 mm-hmm they've smashed it like what cradle of civilization you know they used to call it and I've been there the Iraq that I've seen is rubble bombs
death dogs eating bodies it's mashed universities burnt down hospitals schools the orphanages blown up and it just doesn't get the same amount of mention or support or worry and stuff as a Syria so I do feel like Syria has all the shadow just how bad Iraq is I feel
Iraq Swiss somebody asked a question here that was deep right do you encounter cynicism for local to visit Oh Steve saying do you encounter cynicism for locals where you where you work thinking that you may be a spy for the UK government never never I the love of God from people I've never ever had anyone question me of sinden question of the people but I
think you know when you're in that situation you know when you have rock-bottom you can tell who's trying to help you and who's trying to what's the word mr. honest or obvious situation hurry over you can tell like you guys are all think about when you've been in need or when something's happened you're able to tell how people are dealing with you you know who's genuinely concerned and you know who's maybe got a different agenda so with people I think they can they can just tell them al hamdulillah
I've got nothing but love and because of the way that I look I guess is memorable so people don't forget me either mm-hmm and I'm generally very social even if I don't speak the language I try to speak a little bit I do a lot of body language I do a laugh just you know sometimes just sitting with someone or the way that you are with people if even if you're not speaking their language they understand why you're trying to say they understand why you're about so I've got nothing from nothing nothing but
loss no sugar man you know what I know we've taken up so much of your time today was your it's been amazing I wanna you know before we wrap this up people out they you know hearing all of these the good the harm you know obviously the help that you can do but in addition to that the tragedies that people will encounter what's your words for somebody who might be thinking of getting involved should they should they can they cope what's your advice to to people whether young
or old but in getting involved one is just getting involved as in donating but one is getting involved on the ground you know what are your words and direction for that I'd say don't feel like don't think that this scene is all about money because I always say to two teams that go out with I say if you're here you want to make a difference you have to give more than money you have to give your heart and that's what people need you know people is in a human human conversion that's what they need that's
what they need more than anything when you give your heart to a course it's worth so much more than money because what you're gonna go under you're gonna fight for that you're gonna raise awareness okay you're gonna raise money as well you're gonna but you're gonna do it in a way that we taught to do it you're gonna do it like in a love for your brother while you know for yourself that's what's needed you know that type of love that type of sacrifice there was one woman that I spoke to she was telling me a story after a family got killed on it was really deep and I said to her tell me one thing to always
remember and out of everything she said said give me advice I say that to everyone that I meet she said take responsibility something so simple but out of all the advice that I've ever heard from these people and you can imagine the type of things that I've heard her saying take responsibility that really really a home with me and I really do feel like it is my responsibility we'll have made it my responsibility you know what I mean and we have all got something to contribute
not to poverty but just to to good you know I mean there's good and there's evil we've all got something to contribute so my my my lane is charity most is laying is mostly an in knowledge and ailment these things I mean ever everybody is has got something that they can do was what everybody got a certain skill set or a certain quality my point is as long as you use that quality to benefit humanity like it's fine if Allah has blessed you like
some weak person was saying earlier is it true Bozzio lives in a big mansion and that even if I did so what if Allah has blessed you with something flipping out first we praise Allah for it thank Allah secondly just share your blessing don't feel bad for having it you know about yourself or being blessed it's what you do have are you willing to share that and it's not always about how much you give it's sometimes how little you keep for yourself and that's what sacrifices that's what this world needs it needs a bit of responsibility he needs a bit of
sacrifice and it needs people to give their heart compassion I mean that's so well put man was here you you really driven that home and people picked take it yeah just take you know guys if you do want to get involved if whether it's with projects whether it's getting involved actually on the ground with deployments with with the actual kind of humanitarian work or it's donating where's your work and they reach out to you what's the best place is Instagram
cuz it's not where it's happening to Facebook generation on Facebook Instagram at was your TV at were Co TV yeah we can just DM me and if they want details on traveling abroad volunteering abroad refugee camps and Africa in the Middle East in Pakistan in Asia and even
Europe all over the place well guys you've got it Instagram is the place reach out to us he'll definitely you know if you've if you haven't had and you've got you've got coming up you've got a project coming up of you we've got loads of projects it's just traveling out at the moment has come to a halt but people haven't stopped being poor or anything so we're still doing what we can from this side there's always something to do people do reach out that was your TV ask the place if you haven't already like subscribed to his page do so you you haven't got a YouTube channel yet have
you you know you know do you know I think that might be an interesting thing you know sharing some clips on there that might be an interesting but you've got the yzo TV guys do get involved that's what's important and sometimes even if it's a little but it's it's meaningful and that is you know the interesting thing is that even from a hadith perspective the hadith is that which is the best action it actually says that the most consistent even ye McCullough add one more Hawaiian even if it's even if it's a little bit but
there's some consistency and this doesn't have to always I mean if it's money that's amazing doesn't have to always be money sometimes it could just be a certain action getting involved doing something learning whatever is sharing a smile you understand something as simple as that people that's all it takes I need to get this over tier of people that's also something that was EO has got amazing amazing honey right there and now he'll write a fry the surah this handout for you I don't know if you can
read it or not this it's harvested every sylvari to four years silver the way that this is done you can only get it every three to four years is harvested so I'm gonna get one of these over to you and and these are available of the from on Instagram or what it I fear duck cola UK that's it people the honey get involved in the honey that's where the honey is people somebody says something about Bordeaux sherry yeah
this the the epic ma'am whom they'll hit and hi hey don't be who they that's always people you're gonna wrap this up I'll put up my page if you haven't already subscribed to my page and you have a click the notification Bell on YouTube then what I'll do is I will pay were co2 on his next deployment take you guys over and band in you over thee what
the hell are you doing if you haven't what the hell are you doing if you haven't already liked and subscribed so stop being so you see this is where the art of giving begins you have to like you know that should tell you something you know why is here that is so interesting that I've said from a psychological perspective you can see that you see humans when you give them something as simple as like because money people would say oh well I don't want to give my money over t I don't wanna you know this is inherent kind of sting genus or tight-fisted nurse but you give people something which doesn't take away like let's say on social media this is a good experiment yeah
the right to just simply like something now they don't think about it they're not giving anything they don't lose anything but it's amazing that the moment people are empowered they withdraw they don't exercise it because they'd be like no why should I give one you know it's like it's an amazing because it reflects a person's personality me whenever I scroll through my thing I just like everything so if you if you find any of those dodgy pages being liked by me that's probably what it is when I'm half half sober I'm just like like is that that's what that's my
alibi anyway TCC yes a bit yes right leave you with it guys take very good care of yourselves we've had today the blessing company of the man the myth the legend there was your people right with that have an awesome evening or night wherever you are take very good care of yourselves or Salaam o aleikum or a little lighter ila what about a car - my exit page is coming up people do like it over and out folks
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