A response to Yasir Qadhi on reason | Mufti Abu Layth

right okay cool let's take a look at Cheryl god these horrible people the parable so Chevy Arsenal called II dammit but a car to whom a barakatuhu or should we say whom Allah alia I'll call these barakat right so so what's happened people is Chevy Arsenal cardi has has kind of in one of his lectures

he's given a parable on why we can't trust reason and he calls this parable the the guide a guide a name of P and in his parable he is trying to exemplify his trying to illustrate that you can only use reason to find God but once you found God reason must be suspended so that's like

saying that God basically intelligent people are fine God doesn't mind intelligent people up until the point that they found him at that point God wants them to be dumb all right so now so God basically the following of God must be a dumb down following you can't be very not a very intelligent you know you can you can be intelligent but just not very intelligent just in case you find a mistake

tell me do these people lack confidence in God I don't get this like they just like we used to have one went when I was studying in Dora hadith there was one of our teachers and they would be so insecure if the students had books with commentaries in front of them so I remember one of the teachers he saw this student who had I used to have books with commentaries in front of me I just that's just because they were the books I bought so I bought let's say if we're gonna study sy Bihari over

brought it with a commentary or some Muslim I'll report it with Baba yards commentary and so I I would have brought you know brought these things so now so one of the teachers he noticed that a student had a book with with the commentary and so he said today so he whilst he's reading he wasn't a kid says to the guy he says he says a child he says healthy I Agena da ba da da da so he says to him that if I if I make a mistake then you correct me okay like

but say he said it in a very sarcastic manner he wasn't being he was trying to say to him that why honor he was trying to say to him that why on earth have you got a commentary is it must only be to catch my mistakes out so if I go wrong just correct me that's what he was trying to say and so this approach is that we can use reason but only to help us find God once we found God then being too smart too smart this

one not nice no no no yeah both you can one day it's like the angels who think what are we gonna do with this one it's gonna catch out all the mistakes I find this hilarious so so let's get back to yes it'll call these parable so yeah sort of all these parable is that a man

once a man turns up to a new town Inuvik a new city where he's a stranger he there finds the most reliable guide that could show him around the town now he asks this guide who is utterly reliable he asks him that I want you to take me to take me to the most learn it the most wise the most accomplished scholar that

you have in this city take me to him take me to him to this Mufti so where else would they go obviously to Mufti a belay no that's not part of yes I've got these parable so this guide who's utterly reliable takes this stranger to the to this Mufti who is the most learning most accomplished most talented most intelligent Scala there is in this entire city once

he takes him there this scholar starts to give answers to this person's questions but when he begins answering the guide then tells this person ah don't listen to this Mufti he's he's actually messed up he's making mistakes so this stranger then says to this guy but aha but you told me he was the most learning so now that you've brought me to him your job is done my friend my friend

these are not nice so this is the parable the great parable given to us by chef yes it'll all be the guide being our uncle and the mostly being God so our uncle has led us to God but now that it's letters to God we must you know stand back and not listen to this to this voice of reason ever again if it questions anything to do with God so this parable as you can imagine has so many flaws and fallacies in it let's

own peace let's unpack some of them so look first of all and what what chef yourself God they will play on here they will this there is there is a great con at play in these arguments people cash a castle of God is not the only person to say that you shouldn't be relying on you on the voice of reason but there is a great con at play and let me explain this come to you this con since share sir

ah de he is a sub-continental scholar from the Indian subcontinent in the Indian subcontinent there was a great con man great con man wants known as Nutella so let were love was such a great con man people that he sold so many things con people within India he sold the gate you know the gate of India he sold he so he sold at one point he sold the house of parliament with the parliamentarians

in it so all great con artists or anything have been called after him in especially in that part of the world network lot okay and the Great Khan of Nepal all has like three steps to it people three steps you know this one three steps you know one step one people step one step one is the claim the Dawa okay you have to so they have to make this this claim

which seems like whew step two is they will provide you a narrative which will distract you and with that distraction step three the con comes through so what's happening here share here some Adi is also maybe unbeknownst him maybe subconsciously he's not doing it with intention obviously we love Cavite Yasir Qadhi sob but he's also doing the

network ah ah right so so what it is is they will allude people like sure here so far the other others two elements that have some truth in it so they will say things like ah but there are so many things see there are many things that are sometimes unfathomable mysteries and that's true there are some mysteries that you know appear unfathomable or that appear very elusive and that is

true and they will refer to them Oh consciousness no dark energy oh you know the unknowables or certain things that are I'm not saying consciousness is definitely a noble but certain thing oh look in the Quran this her offal methought I live Lam Meem what does that mean nobody knows and whilst they are spinning this story of the unknowables they then smuggle through their so-called miracles that which is actually meant to be scientific and

Noble they smuggle them through as well and this is the Great Khan the network lon Khan is taking place people is at play so it's very important if we just unpack this this example you see it's not first of all God is not like a Mufti in this parable okay Clark is connecting with his creatures with his creation okay and it's not about the unknowables we're talking about things that God has asked

you to do he's asked you to see who feel oddly from the rule look that Allah says that traverse go through the earth and look Thunder okay for better alone how did Allah begin creation walk through the earth and discover that's the verse of the Quran Allah could have said well it was like this but he tells you - that you know do they not look in a little ek4 holy party creation how the camel was made how this happened how Allah brings life how this how that how plants

plants emerge how you know the barren earth comes back to life do they not ponder over creation so nature is meant to be from the fathomable so when you're saying you're addressing certain aspects that might be mystical that might be unknowable you can't smuggle in the knowable that this one not nice see this is part of the con a play so that would be like you

see that that would be like in that sense if you sorry I was just seeing a message over here right so imagine a person if you gave the example a parable of something that is known like let's say arithmetic now you go to a teacher who's an excellent teacher but he's making mistakes in arithmetic not in something unknown in a different science you would say well actually that's a

mistake because you have your sound reason it does not make the concept does not make this thing or make this person infallible now to say God wants us to use our amazing intellects to discover to say that look or why shouldn't we worship statues because it doesn't make any sense you know it doesn't add up to the voice of reason why should we turn away from polytheism it doesn't add up to the voice of reason why should we do all of this so Allah appeals to the voice of reason

it resonates you turn up to God and then God starts telling you to do all unreasonable things or unreasonable stories once again just like the gods of old and when you question it you're told oh no now you're not allowed to use reason so this is an utter fallacy okay Allah right throughout the or an tells us to use often after let our universes will you not be people who use their reason Allah says this has a message

lyonnel ups are for people who have inside this has a message they only know ha people of deep understanding the Alpha later do they not ponder with the with deep thought and reflection so Allah is inviting you to use reason so for what crime did you kill your daughter's exactly that's a good example you see when Allah says that and you know Elmo oh that is so Inlet behavior than being mortal and that you used to

kill these daughters of your some of them the Arabs not all the arrows for some of them used to kill their daughters at birth is because they didn't want daughters now Allah calls them to reasoning but just think about bees I mean kotti lads now what did that child ooh this is calling you to the voice of reason they think about what you were actually doing so so this kind of parable this sorry this kind of parable and this kind of allegory are completely absurd and they

to me just reflect an insecure sentiment people who lack confidence in God because to say that God wants you to be clever but just not too clever that's the craziest you know thing I've heard that just reflects an insecure girl that just means you haven't truly discovered God maybe you've stumbled upon a statue a false God allies still yet to be found

because alive not insecure of your reasoning and I tell you Islam and faith stands in the test of reason you do not need to be insecure that you know people this is only the institutionalists they they they obviously fear this because they fear that they will lose control and the institutions will crumble and Islamic is a natural Deena Deena fitrah and he does stand to the voice of reason to the test of reason it is a faith it is a faith I accept that but it is firmly rooted in

reason I hope that helps people right so what else is going on let's uh it would be nice if you could have a dialogue with share he has a father you would be awesome but share here sir Hadi doesn't accept this humble if Chevy also called thee if this message can reach share Sephardi share g let's have a dialogue it's good to talk let's discuss this like to civil people to intelligent people know seriously on a serious note I would love to have a dialogue with sure here some party but I don't think

chef here so godly would want to have a dialogue with me because it's to some of these people unfortunately they see as a lose-lose because what if they have a dialogue with me and they may feel that what if this person you know gets the upper hand or what if this person but it's not really a like that it's just a civil friendly conversation it's not a debate it's just a dialogue friendly

friend right so what is going on people