Monday Nights with Mufti Abu Layth: Session 119

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kafa or salat wa salam o allah rasool mustafa ala IBAD Allah dinner table or a mummy hotel method of al-madinah to feel bad for Salaam allahi allah o allah wa sallim become more marhaban running light bienvenidos a todos people Pajaro Valley who Shama deed and swagatam saw Gotham right all right folks all right God you know what I think I need to restructure these classes to have them all these sessions to have them a bit earlier bloody all

this keeps tilting because now the hour has gone forward as well so we must be all feeling it really in the UK anyway right so what's going on a u'b I'm good I'm good all right Imran you doing it you're doing it you're doing it ah you know I like him a Salaam Jamshed Nicholas all right come estas people

this guy is definitely d the d this guy the comment said this guy is definitely a Jewish puppet not even a puppet but puppet and his own name is ah people you couldn't make this stuff up if you tried

I guess but what's going on what's going on right Hasan well see if alaikum as-salaam all the way from Vancouver how's your phone my phone is no good that's a different phone much that's a different phone that's business you know business we can't we cannot talk business on this you know this is it's only musty talk here alright so if you get back to my actual messages much

rather than and filming over the with how to resolve those tech issues even of a total size is for read your friend now hottie Morris V says yahoodi agent agent I mean not at least I think they should pay me then at least if I'm their agent I mean yeah there should be some benefit rather than just just being labeled an agent I mean I might as well be like a billionaire agent what the hell go on then rather than just taking the title

Salam from ilford via Jhelum yes Alam us a bit of a lengthy route but waalaikumsalam people today we'll be taking a look at quite a few quite issues this may also the topic which I was supposed to cover last week but we were I couldn't go ahead with it sleeps 1 1 2 is saying move the Eagles double agent right anyway wake up JAL him yes Salaam all right big

of Jhelum people somebody says didn't answer a bonobo Papa a bonobo to toss a my fur eats friend are we talking about furry to Dean Gangu Teli i'm i don't know if being a friend means but uh friend friend friend friend I'm not a I'm not that I'm aware of I'm not on any he's definitely Ally I'll leave that comment I'll leave that comment alright I'll let the show heat

up a bit more first before right drop vibes like that no no no nothing nothing nothing there's no communication between us I think he's I don't know too much about you see I'm like a lot of my haters I don't actually stalk these people believe it or not I'm not saying I'm not saying I've got a life I'm just saying I'd rather be watching something watching some TV series than trying to stalk these fools so I genuinely don't have I mean if

somebody mentioned something to me I might listen if somebody said oh do you know this has happened but I won't go out of my way and follow and watch for hours on end these fools he'll know Fareed said he watched he made a tweet about he in such a proud way damn I overdid this yesterday had to rest it today couldn't even go to the gym these are these hand hand exercises and and muscle exercises he's all mixer

size these people right so so he actually made a tweet about me saying he watched 180 hours of me I was just wow you know why do I only get the weirdos saying that about me this like you know the in a parallel universe they must be like another movie ablaze we awesome people actually watch 180 hours of him I'm stuck over here with

weirdos know people who I mean they just they by default they ought to be on at least about four or five separate lists like boring lists by just looking at them you know why do I it's talked by these people alright somebody says my right hand hurts not in that left hand oh I gave it away yeah no

it's fine it's fine it's fine right so ah China people what is going on shout out for my Chinese friend yeah yeah you think I slow for that one you naughty naughty New Zealand are alright do sons

Sons get two times sons get two times the inheritance of girls I've already answered that there's a separate clip Mufti nation of islam please no thank you I mean I know are you trying to recruit me into the Nation of Islam I wouldn't qualify I mean I know I'm dark but I wouldn't qualify it is still you gotta be african-american I'm sure to be into the Noy they are the Honorable Elijah and they always come always

suited with the bow ties and the soul always disciplined LA now Pakistan you just could never be disciplined like that it's just the lowest earner play tour will always be it just wouldn't work the whole Nation of Islam would collapse right so will you discuss Muslims marrying non-muslims today what God yep hell yeah that's what I'm gonna discuss that today I was supposed to discuss that last week what had happened I realized why my facebook kept switching off I mean it was really weird

actually because I launched it again and then you would switch off again and thinking this is weird like it's not the internet connection it's not you know it doesn't make any sense I'm sure I've paid my bills I mean I'm sure my neighbor has paid his bills whose wife I am using right but the then I realized it's my daughter what she done was she'd been just downloading this sounds like one of those a terrible

Alaba Alaba it's like no I can explain it's my my child's been downloading movies no she's been downloading all these apps and then using the video camera and just recording hours of useless footage so what's happened is it just clocked out the entire memory site to delete so many things to free up the memory that's why but ya know you know your honor it was my my my daughter had

been downloading all that yeah so most eSAB can you discuss whipping lashing whipping and lashing right so very disturbing see the Taliban Oh whipping women huh what am i what websites have you been watching he naughty naughty watching the public on

whipping ladies what are you on about yes Jessica Hodja add media to GA KC how can we you puppies answer puppies and stuff doesn't let us be as simple folks people simple folks what's your view on what ah ah ah my view is it true that

they believe that w-what mr. wd4 was God in person I take it you're talking about the Nation of Islam I've got no idea what they believe right so what's going on folks what is going on what questions are we looking at can we discuss the issue of Salafi extremism rising in the world can we you know every week I say I'm gonna put some kind of like a scarf eeeh it's not gonna put and I have to

every week resort to this kind of tissue [Laughter] oh I gotta you know what somebody made a post and I thought I want to read this out during my life they tagged me into it with the one moment all right let me just bring it up people bring it up right there right okay so somebody awesome Morgan right it was on my a tag

minute so it's on my wall as well he said had such a busy day today being a proper Mujahid more than which I first I saw this brother walking through the alcohol section in Morrison's we have to judge by the apparent so I've gone and told his wife that he's drinking alcohol then I saw this other brother with his trousers below his anchor yeah sorry I need to get into character I need to get into character this is my character

right so then I saw this other brother with his trousers below his ankles so I went and punctured his tires this is the adverb minute white I mean focus about somehow act this is the other people that is coming down there your tires get punctured time for salah King so I went home and prayed because none of the masajid in my area is upon the hop none of them they're all moved today I

mean right saw this Sister Sister so the sister with this white guy I'm assuming he only converted to marry her so I went and shouted in her face that she should divorce him then I went for chicken and chips with the brothers we chatted about other people's personal lives to make ourselves feel better about our own boasted about how other people are deviants and we are on the huk huk then we made a group dua against mafia

beliefs because he's a proper fitnah of the age and now I'm naked I think I could actually do I think I could actually unite the Muslims but against me yes this is called having like mixed emotions we are like should I should I do this but yeah right so Shamsi versus Ali Dawa saga what's the sham see I've got to catch up

with that one I what is the what are we speaking about is perhaps one I already know but it's so what else is going on people yes we will be taking a little later on a look at the marrying marrying you know the marrying tying the knot between Muslims and non-muslims bah bah bah bah stop for Allah stop I'll stop I gotta get the religion right people us us i stuff it'll master fit right so let's

start with right what is going on brick see somebody has said brick see bricks it is a proper mess people no idea somebody's asked what my views on Douglas Murray ah I don't like Douglas Murray at all I think he's so you know you can sense the kind of snobbery oh I got a read you know what remind me I read the in fact I'll do it now actually I there's this this back and forth on Twitter

between Maajid Nawaz one moment one moment Oh momento let me just see here is people this was hilarious so there's this gotta be careful showing my phone actually you know the a notification could come up

I'm joking I'm joking of course I've switched off notifications right so right so this guy won cold he had responded to Sam Harris on Twitter who's making some kind of remark I think about Maddy Hassan or somebody but he was saying about some high race was just doing his you know I think it was attacking Mehdi Hasan and what happened was this professor one Cole or I'm saying one sorry siento miss penny Ole Miss funny

that's my Spanish Joanne Joanne spelt in English not one but one Cole that's how you say in Spanish anyway so he said you don't have the faintest idea what Muslim belief is you are apparently incapable of reading and textually this was his response to some Harris to which some Harris said really professor well then please alert my friends they deserve to know this about me and he tags in with the handle Maajid Nawaz Ali I'm Jed Rizvi and a few

others iron here see and stuff like that so much it as a savior jumps in and he says hi prof i prof please don't islam spain in equal equal people islam spain islam splaine's sorry slums blame thanks and then he puts that right so one cold said dude I have a PhD in Islamic studies I think that was the

point that I was meant to Islam's plane I was meant to explain Majid said you really want to go there with me bro look me up look me up any look me up so one Cole responded I was studying the Quran in Cairo before you were born son

[Music] that was a killer whoa he killed him that was over people down for the count down for the count right so what else is going on been reading it before he was born yep right they were created around of missing all these comments we have new viewers of right well so they should be people those of you tuning in click like click share people share the love and

the fittin an facade it needs to be done needs to be done somebody said Maajid Nawaz is ma is Majid you know as your friend off one cold after seeing those comebacks from horn coal it's definitely I'm team hashtag team horn coal people team one coal right so all right somebody said just got my top fun but you're doing it now facebook gives top fun bodies people

so those of you wearing them ha ha geo geo who should oh ho are bother all MIDI John that's what I'll say right so let's take some questions I so answer some questions right so before somebody had asked me about bricks in I think the whole thing is a mess I think everybody's just fed up and serese-- Theresa May is just an idiot all they have to do is just get whatever deal they've got and just stipulate just add the final layer say that what this is

the deal but it must be ratified by the public so the public must get to vote this final deal in that this all remain fine there you go shoot autumn should immediately break the deadlock should get through should have a proposal and we'd have a solution right so what's going on right people what questions can we look at right those of you that let's share some international news whilst some questions

sobre Nye is saying right for all for the LGBTQI community out there this little announcement that Bruno has said that if they catch you they catch e who thinks you're gonna get stoned but the worst part of it it's not the kind of stone that you're probably thinking like they're not gonna you out fight alright I'm gay and I'm

buzzing no my friend this one this one carry rock and he pushed rock okay Warren earth is Renae on about for God's sake they want to stone people they want a stone like throw stones at people these guys are oh my god I mean how they are they do they live in 2019 is this like just burn I even count is worth not even nobody you don't burn

ah he's trying to like you know what it is it's like they've got this kid in the corner going hey me me me me me me me me it's like the Muslim world has this this whole thing there's always this kind of ego challenge going on who really represents Muslims you'll get some parts Saudi will always be like yeah and they'll be the Gulf states then there'll be the Middle East then they'll be like Egypt with its kind of Cairo and allies hard kind of we represent and then you okay I suppose you've got Morocco with its kind of traditional we represent

traditional Sufism then you love like Pakistan saying you know the Chaudhary's we traditional Pakistan you know Pakistan come at la la ilaha illallah so you'll have like Pakistan then you'll have Afghanistan saying we are the poly barn the line everyone nobody even no rapper Brunei isn't even it isn't even invited to that mess of a meeting that nobody even knows where Brunei is on a map it's like my what the hell is that

and from all of these countries but I gets up and says okay well stone gay people today it's like what everybody's like what and they're like yeah we're just stone them all today [Laughter] god I think the Sultan of Brunei must have been buzzing he must have been thinking oh like stone them like we'll just drug them out because for God's sake

well somebody wake him up like just swing him around for God's sake this is 2019 you're not in 1352 stoning people to death making a mockery out of Islam and then you'll just disappear because no when you think of Islam nobody thinks of Brunei nobody thinks of rely anyway nobody's heard of Brunei it's like so the rest of the Muslim countries just have to take the heat oh I realize the comment said slightly frozen there they are they're

back let's stone people what a stupid kind of joke I mean if it was a joke it'd just be like a like a dumb joke it'd be one of those jokes that everybody's just like but the worst part is this this guy's for real like me me me me me I stoned them I stone them and and they turn up with pebbles like they all camp as well and

they're throwing at the gay guys oh no no serious note though this is embarrassing this is really embarrassing I mean come on people even in the past look at the Maliki great ulama of the past six hundred years ago they were speaking saying about cozumel broossooli and pours only people whose name sounds like as though he's from Brazil but is not Brazilian is Fatah WA are over now you can't actually see them but the

volume of the whole set of them in about seven volumes he was the shareholder slam of his day in age legend of a scholar in his day and age he had taught how stoning was abrogated through trajectory hermeneutics people that the day and age had changed and therefore the hadoo that changed and that is the school of Medina that is Maliki think he's issued that ruling he taught his students off to him the generations after him and this was argued for so my point is and then you've got you had in the east he was in

northwest Africa modern-day Morocco around that region and and he traveled a bit through northwest Africa as well so and then you had in the east you had people like Solomon opononi the the Ottoman caliph and the Sultan not the Sultan of Brunei but that's all Don and he back then had changed the legislation of things like this so Muslims back then were ahead of the game this is before colonial kind of influences and things like this and today they're just going

backwards in full throttle full speed they're going in Reverse anyway right so all right so somebody said my dad's name is so fun GOG oh right so salt my point is that look these things it's silly having these kind of rulings and you have to remember that the stoning thing is not in the Quran it was abrogated but the point is that it was part of the Jewish Bible that the Prophet condoned for them

and allowed until until the verses in the Quran came at the time saying what to do with people who'd committed adultery and then with time these things are hinged on the kind of collective ethics of the age as they change the rulings change so that's why I will pass him Albert is early in his time said they changed now even in the prophets time you can see hints of that so it's hinting so you have a case where a person comes to the prophet and in fact the hadith is in Bihari but it's an

abridged version and this a even Hajer infertile body brings the lengthier slightly lengthy aversion where the person comes to the prophet and he says that I've committed you know like I've had sex with some woman and so on and and he mentions that even the Hodja brings the rewire and the Prophet just saves to him that look have you prayed salon and that is a forgiveness for it now my point is that these rewired are already there and hence the masala the challah Toba to spittle dude Amla is a thirty debate

so does Toba just majora to table you spittle dude Amla is a classical debate that does tow by the simple Toba drop all dude and this was a part of the humbly might have held up view it upheld that that was valid and hence Imam Ahmed brings it is must not the hadith when they tried to in that day in that day punish this person who committed adultery and he tried to run away in the Prophet condemned them later on in saying that why did you carry through with this so

in the prophets and Halle Tariq to MU if only that you'd left him alone for two - fire - mala ali that if only had left him then he he he would have repented and Allah would have turned back to him now that is a hadith in the most of the vehement and it is one of the that is one of the opinions of held within the humbly mother and I believe it's also the whole body militia sorry but it's within the humble that I'll that Toba will generate Toto by just Toba on its own drops all her dude okay so if that be the case with

just Toba of course that the macaws heed of the Sharia would dictate that the actual fur dude would change with the day and age so right so okay so there's that issue going on what else people what else right we've had a bit of a a bit of an issue going on with in the UK especially with in Birmingham and I think maybe some of the places but it's become a national topic of debate and

that is to do with somebody asked do you listen to chef Imran Hosein I don't know I don't right so somebody right so it's become a topic of national debate teaching children about homosexuality so what what is all of these okay and in schools and this no outsiders program right now I want to say that look I think that this whole

topic this whole debate has been mishandled okay it's been mishandled especially by the people wrapping the Muslim cause that's what I feel that's my you know perspective from how I've seen things on social media now you've got yes they've there's been a lot of kind of protests and stuff like that but what I feel is Muslims need to stop you

see that we first of we need to clear up that it is there's nothing wrong in teaching if it's simply so I watched a national debate we the representatives said that we do not teach the children I mean once again it can be debated if people have evidence to the contrary they can bring it forward but in that on that debate the the kind of Ofsted people said we do not teach them about the sexuality or sexual ization like we don't teach them about sexual

relationships we're just teaching them that some people have like some people have two mums some people have two dads like that now I would say that's simply the case then that isn't a problem that you know that is not a problem people right because if that is the reality because there are people out there that just that have gay parents so if that's the situation if that's what they're teaching if they're just creating an awareness then that's fine if they're teaching things about sexuality and about actual sex

not just sexuality about sex then I agree that it can it's problematic I feel depending on age appropriateness so to what age so I feel that's fine teaching young people that but I think some ages they should like there's not like I would disagree strongly if you're teaching that to like a five-year-old about sex like I would feel that that I would disagree with that because I feel that you shouldn't be kind of imposing the specifics of sex upon young children

now so if that's the case then that's how you should argue it as Muslims right that's what you should be presenting that look okay that the age if that's so if it's just teaching them that look some people have as on one of the debates I watch that one of the Ofsted kind of inspectors said no alway teaching is about relationships and not about actual sex that doesn't come into it at all I don't know if that's the reality or not but that's what I heard on this one national debate if that be the case that I think is not an

issue and we as Muslims shouldn't become insecure to that right new we need to relax you're not going to become gay just by knowing other people are gay it's like oh no now that I know other people are gay I can't help it I can't help but become camp it's like look relax yourselves people stop becoming so insecure okay just because other people are gay you don't just become gay by knowing that some people have got some serious insecurities and it makes me think that

this must be a lot more you know these people that are seriously insecure I feel that they kind of they kind of closeted homosexuals or borderline this is why they're so kind of they get worked up about these things now so just to clarify that's so that if it's just relationships and I would say that that's not an issue right I've got a young daughter I mean one seven ones for now if somebody said to them and not to kind of go all TT over the top but if

they had something where they said look by the way some of some people out there they have a mum and a dad and some people just have a mum and some people might just live with the dad and some people might live with two dads and some people might live with two months I think there's nothing wrong in that personally I don't think that that's problematic I don't because I think children they just observe and they understand that the way the kind of default thing is like a mum and dad and they just get that and they understand that some people are might not be like that but that's the kind of default setting I don't think you need to worry too much about that that this is almost

inherently built-in that this because if you think about it even with creatures in general I mean regardless of humans they get that sense of the the kind of whatever the the tribe or whatever the kind of family thing is now but if they were going to teach about actual sex then I would have a problem if it was at this kind of age ok so a bit older I wouldn't have a problem that they teach them that there are sexual relationships but at a very young age I think that you're robbing

the the children of their innocence and things like that by all this kind of sex talk so that's now that's the angle that I feel that Muslims and non-muslims because there's many non-muslims that agree with us on that you know you'll be surprised as many people in this country that agree on that that you know you shouldn't be teaching sex to very young children so if that's the issue that's how we should be promoting it not not in a kind of Oh homosexuality should be like and I think you know I watch this morning TV with

some guy said look but it's you know it's you know it's more religion you come below this really you come beloved easily so and the first is not asking you will need every religion in me it's just saying that we just can it's it's being taught that some relationships are like this and then there was some there was a is a good morning or one of those that I saw and this question that look oh but you know this is this is sin any no religion look you have to understand something

people look your religion is a private affair okay it is not a sin for non-muslims right non-muslims are higher mahajabeen be Shia they're not better Khalifa sure they are not McAuliffe they are not liable to for Islamic teachings so you don't say a non-muslim oh you never prayed the Horde o earth goo no me because they're not being asked to pray they're not Muslim so they're not asked

to follow the Sharia so this is for you it's as a person it's like I believe that look this is my belief fine I'm gonna this is what I live by you don't believe that so fine you teach what you believe and somebody you know there was this thing this discussion online and I mentioned that look imam malik taught us that we ought to defend the rights of people when he was asked he was asked about people who were committing as a lifestyle choice people no I don't just

mean as a one-off as a lifestyle choice they were they would engage in incestuous in actual incest relationships right in imam alex time when he's in a position of power people power not like not like just you and me sitting here today or like some of these total keyboard warrior loses he was in an actual position of power where he could actually implement or have implemented what he wanted and he was asked that look there are people who marry their own sisters their own

mothers their own daughters and they say that's their way of life should we get involved as part of the state so to speak and what did he mom alexei he said no he said if that's their way of life that's their way of life we do not get involved even this is for those who were in the muslim country in the islamic kind of empire that we do not get involved imam malik said that allah taught us to

be tolerant of when they even worship other gods other than him this is their personal practice what what you know if God was tolerant about that why would it bother him about this that if they do this they do it obviously we disagree with it you know we're not gonna do it we won't advocate it but if that's their way of life that's their way of life so I think there's so much to learn from what Imam Malik was teaching so we have this thing today that we have to not only we don't want to do it but other people and by the way nobody can disagree

so I mentioned I've got a talk on YouTube called I mean it's for it's a segment from a lengthier segment called homosexuality and Islam a diverse perspective now or a diverse history I think it's called something like that now in there I speak about many how they were several scholars from Islamic history you believe homosexuality was not Haram now amongst them called the ethnic then we used the Koran to justify that it wasn't Haram and they were the

scholars and people and I mentioned stories of people who were open about the homosexuality like over Corinna Dawood the great hadith master of hadith I I spoke about it has him in his book of tokoha mama where he writes about several a lustrous Lee rights may I may I add in great detail he writes about he writes about all kinds of things going on but many of the escapades that were going on in his time that people were getting up to the naughty naughty ones

and many of them are about half of them homosexual and he'll be writing about and he says oh yeah and this and this full-on person and this full-on prayer and there were any and he seems to be very kind of just laid-back about it he doesn't seem to be like oh this is oh he just is a saying and he be yNN's the book by saying I'm over 40 years of age when I'm writing this book so don't think I wrote this out of some kind of kind of like childishness okay then I'm a mature age when authoring this and there is an English

translation of it you should read it it's called in Arabic tokoha mama I think in English they might have called it ring of the devil yeah I think something like that ring of the Dove or something like that but but you get this am i and you get other great scholars and they openly promoting Hamas right they openly boast about their homosexual poetry now tell me how what is that about them you know how why does audio work a little harder B and all these are the great scholars they're openly including even handsome and all these people they'll openly boast about like homosexual poetry and and these

were the people so either these people are all deviants and if they are then they goes our tradition because they're the authors they wrote everything right because look at him I know we Imam know he writes in his Futaba book I've got it right here I've actually show me he writes how he find his personal opinion he says it is unquote he treats it like a fact he say it's fact right that's a fact he says that teenage boys are much more beautiful than any woman on earth

this is what he writes he says this is a known fact a very that kind of Trump and he's treating it like a fact and this is like where you're thinking huh what kind of women did he have around him you have women like with these big scruffy beards cavemen women some of the Neanderthal tribes had still survived on to Imam no each time [Laughter]

and hence Amano we never got married it's like and he writes this in his photo I go to his photo book about the Amrit the boy the kind of boy in his mid teens or late teens that kind of who hasn't fully developed a book full beard and stuff like that and he says that there's no doubt that they Jamal their beauty out does the beauty of any woman and you think it think well okay right okay this is getting weird

imagine you're in his class and you're in his class and he starts and you're there because he has a commentary on sahi Muslim and you're there for the commentary and then he starts all of this and you're like okay sure come can we focus on the hadith but my point is so unquestionable if he's finding young boys attractive or like teenage boys I'm not saying I'm not saying he did something I'm just saying but he's openly saying and he's not being shy about it he's writing openly

that yeah they're more in fact they're not only beautiful he says they're more beautiful than women any women and so here he's expressing this kind of bisexuality that he feels is universal he feels that old men would be like everybody knows that that's the kind of he's writing you with that level of confidence that you know every read is gonna be like duh of course but so now

so what is he mom no reason you know if he's finding these guys attractive I mean so is he a deviant I mean are we gonna Chuck all these people out of the faith now so my point is that when I expressed that there was a diversity of views I'm not saying it's you have to accept I'm not saying it's my view but I'm saying these people had all these views so look what's the problem what's the problem if some people followed some of these V I'm just saying why does it bother us why does it just enough like

people feel that my Islam can only be valid so long as I can impose it on the whole of the Muslim Ummah and then my Islam is good enough for me why you Islam is for you you know like look all the meth labs disagree amongst themselves so look according to one meth lab like the Hanafi meth have borderline alcohol is fine you know with Dana bees according to the others it's Haram according to some method they've said things like Qaddafi and others some other Malik here that look cannabis is not Haram according to others it is

Haram according to some methods according to some meth helps apart from pig every other animal is Hollin or permitted to eat even if it's discouraged but it's permitted including carnivorous animals including predatory animals including every fish every amphibian every bird that if you want to eat it you could not say you have to but everything is for me and that's the Maliki method but yet so many of those things that they will by eating

crocodile eating kangaroo eating eagle let's say vultures Eagle nothing you have to but I'm just saying that it's all it's not Haram eating tigers or Lions or endangered species we need to need to curve it in we need to go eating wolves right so I'm just saying that it's not Haram according to all the other methods it's Haram that look the meth labs have disagreed in almost everything from the beginning what's the big deal we've never had

uniformity you know we've never been all monotonous monotonous ly one that has never happened so where people follow different views they do so look if some gay people right I'm just saying let's say some gay Muslims said oh right I'm gay I'm Muslim and they follow that view let's say that they have been some Allah in the past they've been a minority they follow that view that they say looked at this you know that this isn't Haram o or whatever that that's the way and we can disagree with them we

can say look okay according to my understanding it would be Haram but okay fine that's their way like what's the big deal why do I know I can't have peace until you don't have the same view as me but you don't have the same view as me in almost 99% of thick like we don't agree in hardly anything I'm Maliki for God's sake the Maliki method is even amongst themselves they disagree so much so this is my point that why do we have the urge to impose on others Islam is for me like if I feel look I

feel Oh being a homosexual is Haram let's say now that's me fine if somebody said look I follow what called the i habe net them said or these other people and it wasn't haram majority of the Muslim did feel is haram bah fine like what's the big deal do you become homosexual because he said that he follows an opinion that is homosexual what's what's going on like what's the big deal so just let them be it's not like it's not like if it's not like if they didn't say that they're gonna stop being homosexual they still gonna be you don't resolve anything that's my point

right so that's what I'm trying to say and you know the irony is somebody just on they said liar Wiseman Wiseman said liar and I sense I don't know but my gaydar detects a raw nerve naughty naughty listen who semen what's his name with her semen what kind of a name is that semen Oh Cui's mine separates either that's a rather odd name to name your child who

semen okay rather cruel whoo-hoo semen this one who semen not use even neighbour semen which post one see it's semen wait the semen come from well who semen I just want to say look it's alright you can come out of the closet anyway all right so all right so I just wanted to

god I don't get honestly I just don't get the big deal but I think look just live and let live believe what you want for yourself what I can pause it on others just you know if I believe look like think about it if I feel eating let's just say I don't know if I felt eating crocodile was Haram which I don't but I'm just saying Miley Keys think it's permissible and somebody said no according to me eating crocodiles is halal fine it is ain't gonna make me run out and eat a

crocodile just chill chill man chill and you know I don't get what the people are getting upset about I'm just quoting how the orlimar had you know that they were probably in nature least bisexual in nature I'm not saying that I don't know whether they practiced gay relationships but they they're probably most of them didn't but and you know something in that clip I called a lot of people and I'll tell you people you know some of the things you read

about some of these scholars you think you know I'll give you an example there's a really famous party right really famous study katisa right he's one of the key transmitters and he was a major grammarian as well arrival of SIBO ways from the time of the salafiyyah now his name is casaya now Casa is one of the main transmitters as well of the one of the Tara out of the Quran as well now they would say about him that he was epic he was a

legend he was like this he was like this and you know the guy knew his he's Krammer to the tea and he news recitation like clockwork and he knew this and epic but then they would say oh except he would often write in our week later I know Kanna your demon Aviv well yeah till a little man that except that he would often be drinking that kind of like alcoholic drink which he believed was halal and he would often have kind

of gay sex what with his with his servants he says with his male servants yeah till Hillman now you think I'm mr. whole season I feel like I'm like lost out yeah like what we went from he was his epic is a legend you know it's recitations on point is is this is this is this oh yeah I need to often drink no beef and have kind of gay sex with his male slaves and you think huh like wait

a minute wait this season for in season five go how did I end up they like but I mean so my point is people need to seriously tone it down I'm just quoting the scholars don't shoot me don't shoot the messenger you know the hadith says the messengers are always safe okay a Russell Amina now when a messenger brings a message no attack me and on or tack I'm a senior only you know only only this one only no

sir right so anyway right so let's let's move on a my path on the way sergeant was saying right so let's what are the question let's take some questions people and and then what we'll do is then we've got that whole topic to discuss on marriages but let's take some questions first Mufti is from me pour

upon Tamir pour save me poor I do love languages though I've yeah people on that note I wanted to share actually some experience I've recently kind of upped my game with the languages I'm studying and I've signed up for some formal classes so I take classes through this website called verbling it's actually very good you know I'm quite impressed with it so that you just type in whatever language you're looking for and you got tutors across the world and different rates that they're charging

and you just that's it just booking you listen so I've got my spaniel going down people practicing with me a maestro who is from Mexico people Mexico from Mexico and I'm also practicing my Sanskrit Sanskrit Sanskrit I mean tree I actually love languages like that and I think people it's a shame that I mean with Sanskrit I find it really intriguing as one of the it's a classic such a classic language and one of the earliest of the

indo-european kind of branch but yeah anyway I thought I'd share that with you guys right so right all right come on start muy bien muy bien people muy bien that's it going back to the roots oh yeah I mean I think all languages are our roots people I learned them all that's what I say whatever you can but I think you don't want that note I want to say something else as well that I was reading a study and you guys have

probably seen this it was being shared by a lot of people it was on Facebook and on many others it was an actual article from certain media certain newspaper outlets about why that age seems to sorry time time seems to pass much faster with age so and they were trying to explain why this may be so so for example and let's say for a 20 year old five years or ten years would seem like a long time but let's say for a 50 year old or a 40 year old that same a

that same time like two years spent as a 20 year old will not feel like two years when you're at a later age so they were trying to explain what could be the reason for this that why does time seem to go much faster become more processed more rapidly as you age so one of the explanations was things like they were saying neural networks like within your brain that had a younger age your brain is still making those neural networks and our later age it's already made them but I don't think the article actually did a good job so I want to share that

with you guys that you see in psychology I remember going over certain things like this before there is there has been a lot of research on how memory works okay now you have to understand that our memory is kind of designed to stick to kind of like poster for us key issues that are important now it does log kind of everything but what it does is whatever is repetitive and mundane the memory kind of flushes it out so if I asked you as an example

let's say you've been working or studying or whatever you do you have a routine and I ask you well you know when you were when you went to work this morning describe your journey to work and what happened you might be able to do that quite successfully because it's only this morning now or when you are coming back from work or uni or whatever now if I asked you okay last week Wednesday describe your journey coming back from work now unless something significant happened last week Wednesday you will not be able

to recall it because you just remember a generic kind of return home you won't you can't remember Wednesday specifically unless something out of the ordinary or something happened on that day so long as nothing extraordinary happened it will just be it will just be kind of squashed and your memory will do that now the problem with this is imagine so many years of your life you're just doing the mundane you memory will just literally squash so much of it

and that is your life that it is squashing so the important whereas when you're younger there's a lot more happening this like the mundane things are not so mundane they are but there's a lot of difference so a 20 year old would either be studying this uni life maybe they're trying to get a job maybe they're about to get into a relationship maybe they want to buy their first home maybe they want to do there's a lot happening maybe they're traveling maybe they you know just had some emotional experience some relationship experience so there's a lot they're meeting new

people they're learning you skills now as you later on in life as you age with life you stop doing those things so things become mundane and your memory starts compressing them so my advice to a lot of people out there is seriously that make sure you continue to set yourself multiple goals if they don't need to be massive they can be but you achieve them but you continue to do things with your life that are different there are kind of

like flavouring if you like that you if this is why I was saying if you want to learn languages you're learning you're learning this language you're learning that maybe you're traveling maybe you're making new friends maybe you but you're doing things continuously that are new in your life so it really enriches and he adds so much more quality to your life so in Sharla I thought I'd share that people Rea shukran shukran barnacle or fix for the kind words they're right so what else is going on people water so we take some

questions from people had posted and then we'll go to the report on marrying right so what's going on what's going on people right so let's see the questions that are bothering the good folk of Facebook Allah has Jamrock has Jamrock always has some interesting weirdly interesting questions Muslim man is

watching you know when you look out the curtains Muslim man is watching oh thank God is Muslim I mean the thought the thought of him being uncircumcised would be really disturbing [Laughter] I'm sorry buddy my bad humor I'm just saying what the group's thinking right

so right so oh my god so many questions my hair's Jamrock let's take some and then we'll move it along through different people according to Quran we can marry only those people of the book who are monotheists Mohammed named Han well Mohammed I'm going to get to that in a while so experiments better miss Perriman right so what's the best way to deal with kaffir ah what's the best way to

deal with kaffir alright so who want proof about God or Quran the only thing I was thinking is we have scientific and historical proof that two before science existed and God has to exist because he is the everliving if something created the universe and what created that God isn't created or he wouldn't be God God is the hail to whom this guy really seems sure about himself doesn't why does he why do I feel like he's trying to convince himself first and then then tell me this is I would like a more

detailed response from Muftis perspective right well look I would say just don't worry about trying to prove things you see when we say can we prove that God exists we can't prove God exists but we feel it to me as an individual I you know to me this I've said this before on so many occasions that look the world just just trying to make meaning of things the ability to try make meaning of something to me cannot

be meaningless that's to me now one could argue that I may be wrong that may be wrong but to me it doesn't make any sense that this is just nothing that this equates to nothing that there is something greater than me that has created us all set us all in motion right so but it's coming back to the proving you can't prove either ways you can't prove that there is no God and you can't prove that there is a god but I mean you can present some rational explanations but it's not the same as it depends unless that's what you mean by

proof then that's fine yeah but it's not real like concrete proof because then it wouldn't be faith yeah okay Ohm's ID is asking Salaam what Salam can a non-muslim marry a Muslim and then later embrace Islam is the marriage valid right but I'm actually going to be covering this shortly anyway so that's all all good right what else people what else why has Allah has Jam requires Allah withheld the meaning of some verses of the Quran from the Ummah

I like the rueful maka taught right okay so the Haru firmata are things like Alif LAAM Meem Alif LAAM raw these letters that come at the beginning of certain sewers nobody truly knows what they mean they just they why is a lot on that I mean I should be so dumb for me to give you the answer because he would be like why is Allah withheld this but I happen to know

it even the Angels would be like huh what what the hell like well isn't that withheld isn't the whole purpose of it being withheld that he wouldn't know it so if I just told you the answer that would just mess up the whole game but I think look I think that these things were there in essence partially obviously went with the whole the way the sequencing of the letters and everything but I also feel it's too to

kind of enshroud some mystery and to let you know that you will never truly comprehend everything it's a lesson isn't it that's what I think I mean I don't know it'd be odd if I didn't know and nobody else knew that would just be really weird right so you said Shaitaan at best is simply insinuations and thoughts how then do you interpret the verse wife pollen allele Malaika this radula Adam for such a do Allah I beliefs about

was stuck Baraka nominal cavity right okay that's an interesting one you know what do I think of the story of Adam of the bowing of the Angels to Adam you see I feel that when it comes to right okay the story of Adam aleihsalaam this there's many parts of this story okay Adam for example him being you know

Allah saying oh we're gonna have this type of human that's going to be different and this and this I think that's all real and that was all literal that he was unique in the sense he was that he had this unique cognitive capacity as Allah mentions and he and then obviously his offspring and so on I I feel personally that that that was a real understanding but I feel that there's certain things certain stories in the Quran some especially to do with some aspects are kind of layered with

they kind of they have realism to them but they layered with symbolism as well so some are symbolic as well they kind of like an allegory for what for life and things like this so when it came to the angels were told to bow down to Adam and they did except Iblees that part is that literal was that like Adam was stood there and then all the angels came and they bowed down to him is this what we think happened you see because if you think of it like remember

I previously I have a segment a clip on how to view stories within the Quran that you have this zoom in and zoom out effect if you want to take it just as the story it's fine but if you want to take it as literal then you zoom in you find does it still stand is the consistency so when you take it in zoom in you see that wait a minute there's a lot of problems here so for example Adam ELISA Lam the question of okay so where are these angels bowing to him is it on

earth is it in the heavens wasn't his heaven in earth anyway so the angels came to earth all the angels this is all the angels that that were they all came around him but they were instructed what what you know when Allah said was true duly Adam what was this command was it a - sure AE Orta Queeny so - sure a a means was it legislative so Allah was giving an instruction a commandment and that is it's like God is asking you would you like to obey me like it's a fishery it's like a Sharia it's a commandment if that be the case but then angels are available caliphs

they they don't have to SHINee and if it was to Queenie God was commanding as an imperative as in he was he was setting it into motion like Allah says be and it is like this or he says to this you know to the heavens above let there be rain and there was rain and things like this now if you mean in that sense then then that they were just being programmed then how does a decent or disobey because if it's tak weenie then he has is unable to disobey and if

it's - surely than the Angels don't really have a Sheree and they don't have any Turk leaf and they don't man and we was this taking place and we would so what I find that there's a lot of inconsistencies so in my understanding that there's certain parts of Adam story that are just mentioned as symbolism and some parts that were real now so it's a bit like imagine I was to speak to you about somebody that you knew like oh let's tell us us to speak about somebody who's like a hero I don't know of the

recent past and I was to say that Oh like imagine he was an ancestor of use the great grandfather or somebody and I was recalling an event that one day you know he got in trouble let's say with the system the authorities and they tried to put him into trouble or something but he got away with it as it not got away with it but they they failed in their plot now I might say oh and on that day the forces of evil were hell-bent on doing him over you know but

but good overpowered evil in the end now I might say that the forces of evil or the forces of good but really I was just talking about let's say I was speaking about an ancestor of yours and or and I'm just giving an example of some kind of incidents that he's going through so language like this is used at times now I feel that the angel thing and about Iblees disobeying this thing was more symbolic about forces that Adam was told that God had kind of is telling Adam that there

are many forces of good that are kind of subdued that have kind of succumbed and they are subordinate to man but yet there will be some forces of harm that will work against him that refused to subordinate that refused to succumb to to man and I think this was just a kind of a story a symbolic story and allegory that described that best that man will that humans will always have a struggle in life that they although they will

kind of overcome there will be many good things in their favor but there will always be some things opposing them that's what I think that that particular part of the story represented and you find people like scholars like Maulana Abdul Karim Allah thirty in east of Seattle was also kind of girls this way describing this event to do with the forces the who are of higher and the who are sure and stuff like this and so that's how I see that part of the story now I'm not saying the whole story of Adam is an allegory some scholars have felt the whole of Adam is an allegory

some have felt that everything is literal I kind of myself am in the middle so I feel that there was this you know that there was reality to several aspects of it and some aspects were allegorical that's my understanding Allahu Alem right so what Carly said is this a confident black confidently done now do you think Adam was ninety hands - of course he wasn't

Adam Ali Salaam would have been the same height as an average man I mean give or take whatever that is but he would have been exactly the same and he would not have been the first kind of I mean he he would have probably my understanding being the father of the cognitive revolution amongst almost a pians but he would not have been the first kind of bipedal human so to speak but he would have been if we're considering Homo erectus and Homo you know Neanderthals and heidelbergensis and we're considering all of these Homo habilis

and all of these different hominins he wasn't the first of the hominin so to speak but and he wouldn't have been the first of the Homo sapiens either in my understanding but the first of the cognitive revolution when they when Homo sapiens they're thinking suddenly changed about 70,000 years ago approximate and they just became something else you know they became involved in in art in discovery you know they just became a unique species all of a sudden I think that at the head of

that was Adam ELISA Lam and that's what the ability when Allah said he taught him at the the constructs that's what these things were that he could construct his own knowledge and keep building he could build knowledge independently that's the unique thing you know I've seen some people translate it as I'm God poor Adam the nouns that [Laughter] just sounds so silly it sounds so ridiculous and God to Adam the nouns that just sounds like so childish like

okay today's nouns are a born but a cat cat rhymes with bat I'm sure my sorrow is for is doing things like that that's that's belittling Adam aleihsalaam come on for God's sake he's gonna be the father of the cognitive revolution you can't be like but cut mat God somebody had translated and got to either ulema Adam Alice Matt

so he taught Adam the nouns and you're thinking what about verbs what about prepositions he's like I going if you want to take that as a noun that's not even a noun REE active participle but so that's what it didn't mean look you have to remember people even other hominins most likely may have and would have probably had language but to a lower level than us so it's very likely that Neanderthals had language but maybe just not on our level that's

all that we the difference is that we can construct in debt abstract knowledge like we can construct knowledge from knowledge like you take things like building blocks you put them together you construct new knowledge you can we have induction deduction things like this these things are very very human I think as in very Homo Sapien because if you think about it look at a look at a monkey today like a chimpanzee and even some you know you get things like bonobos and other monkeys they teach them certain basic kind of language

skills through by through you know computers today basic basic skills and they teach them you know where they can identify letters of the alphabet and they can point to the right letters and they can do stuff like this and arguably some gorillas or something have even tried to spell out certain things at some time there's been research on this but so if that's you know the ape family like from monkeys and things like this bonobos and then what do you think of hominins that looked very much like us like Neanderthals they would have had a

higher level than the monkeys definitely so if they say today a monkey possesses that the kind of I don't know like the brain of like equivalent I'm just saying in intelligence probably like the a two-year-old child so you can imagine that Neanderthals would have at least what being like six seven year olds at least like that kind of capacity they would have had so yeah Allah created

languages at the time of Nimrod that's funny Allah created languages at the time of Nimrod Nimrod and before him what were they doing out there like oh oh you can speak he's like duh what do you think oh [Laughter]

right so of course a lot didn't create languages like that human beings have been creating languages but I feel that language is hardwired into us and I do feel that language has been there before it's been with like I said I'm I feel that Neanderthals must have had language but to a low level and we Homo sapiens must have had language but with the cognitive revolution we took it to another level that's what I think but a lot of them kind of like teach languages like that like in that sense you know I

know you know in the in the books of you have this debate or Arabic was the first language and no it wasn't a week was the first language God gaku pink period how long earth was Arabic the first language Arabic belongs to the Semitic language group okay so that means it's it's kind of broken off from the Semitic which from which came things like arabic aramaic hebrew syriac things like this came from the just as indo-european languages

whether it's or do Hindi French German English Persian they all belong to the indo-european so they came from something called proto-indo-european and maybe they came from others before that so you would have had like let's say proto-indo-european from that would have come things like you you would have had Latin breaking away from that from Latin vulgar latin broke away from that from that the kind of Romance languages Spanish and Portuguese and Italian and you would have had Germanic breaking away and then from Germanic English and

things like this lays basically but there is a a real good book on going through currently called the wheel the horse forgotten the full title I'm going through inaudible it's called the wheel the horse but it speaks about the proto-indo-european and how the language is diversified right so cool people right let's take a look at this somebody said about linguistics right it is it is actually it's quite so Sarge it's saying

check out about numerals and languages yeah I think you're referring to the Tower of Babel story but yes so linguistics is something I have a passion about language especially language I mean linguistics yes also all right people let's take a look at this question can Muslims and non-muslims into Murray into my early you know into madyun of the marriage so let's take a look at so where does this question emerge from this question emerges

because in our day and age we've got right we've got somebody said it takes two for a language to be radar on you're absolutely correct language is a social phenomenon it cannot exist individually therefore and people like Vidkun stein had clearly argued that almost 100 years ago that language cannot be a private phenomenon it must be a public kind of phenomenon so there's no such thing as a private language that's absolutely true and the Tower of Babel is not Islamic

now that's not not Islamic at all right so the Tower of Babel is that God said let's go down that you know that man that humanity is kind of getting too smart and they're building this tower to to rise up to to the heavens and and reach God so God said to the Angels let's go down and confuse them and let's split their languages so they can't communicate with each other therefore they can't plot together and reach us Oh

God what a plan that says oh no they're gonna come and catch up with us so this is my great plan oh go they and change the language settings so the gap is going so one guy's going he's saying to the other one he's supposed to say something says and all of a sudden he's speaking another language he says well Malthus enough I'll earn and the others

like here come on up yeah and somebody else is no law saying no no say no right so so this oh my god one guy singing at the back goes oh God this one good right so right anyway guys we gotta focus on this topic people's marriages are at

stake for God's sake right so the question SHINee's when people some people converted to Islam I'm with negate I'm gonna be distracted I'll stop reading the the comments right so some people convert to Islam and the spouse the husband or wife hasn't converted so this won't be problem you know so on one way there's the beam on the other way there's the it's like oh right so this

becomes a struggle a struggle for people so they've asked questions that look if especially if coming from women and that right especially coming from women that when they've converted and their husband doesn't convert to Islam must they leave their husband now some people have given

them the advice that now now right so you must leave your husband and I think this kind of attitude is so apart from it being home-wrecking it is disastrous is absolutely disastrous okay now under the this is where this issue emerges and it caught light okay so since then several people have spoken on the topic

they've issued rulings chef Abdullah who they who currently resides in the UK I believe now he he's also authored a book on it right including several of the scholars who have said it's permissible namely some of these scholars have said that this woman can stay with that husband even though he's a non-muslim and they can remain married so I'll give this fatwa first then I'll go through the discussion okay so just to explain what the ruling is first of all right so the ruling according to share Abdullah bin Bayer is

a great epic scholar of our age Maliki in essence his people definitely know of him is the teacher of Sheikh Hamza Yusuf now and I believe share Hamza Yusuf would be with him on this now they share Abdullah bin baya has clearly given the fatwa that the wife can't stay with her husband this was also the fatwa as I mentioned of share hard to love today of share card ah we use of an AoE it was is the fatwa of Sheikh Ahmed Omar Hashim who's there are ease of giametta as her who was sorry

previously the the head of giametta Azhar regimental Azhar is the fatwa of the poor Mohammed Al Murray who is the race the kind of chariot o Allah mile as her who's the chair of the the Council of scholars of al-azhar his fate was well and also with them bandana cheese standing in the queue with weirdly is upon okay so I too agree with these

scholars that the woman does not need to leave her husband okay she can stay with her husband and vice versa okay so the husband can stay as well with the why with the wife but I was just saying that commonly the issue seems to be appearing more so from women than it does from men now what if they aren't married now you see that's a different interesting discussion because I believe that you see when you say they aren't married there's two things to that o up one is

that they they're just like dating so okay that's that's fine you know then they weren't really in a relationship anyway the other ways that they were in a relationship but it wasn't like a civil marriage but it was a relationship my understanding and I've got a segment on this that if a person is in an exclusive relationship that is known to people as it is an exclusive relationship then technically that is it seems to fulfill the conditions of an orphanage ah okay because what is an orphan Iike it is just exclusivity that's all it is just a bill - bill - that's it

you know I accept I accept that's it there's nothing more to it now right so that would count as in the relationship is the okay so that relationship she can remain in that relationship if they would in a relationship to start off with and okay then it's I mean it's her call anyway she doesn't have to I'm just saying that she could now okay so right now let's start getting into the explanation of how do we arrive at this and what is going on well first

of all we've got to understand that this issue in and of itself right so to understand it better we got to go to the roots that what is a Nika first of all let's grasp grasp that so Nika is a relationship that is kind of being on Dougs it's I would say sacred yeah in fact let's say sacred it's a it's a kind of special or a sacred relationship that people have now whatever that means to them it can mean something different in a different

context but it's a it's a kind of sacred relationship that people have usually of exclusivity that's the kind of or there's some exclusive rights to and for one another now Nika Lou gotten Lou gotten just means sex okay linguistically the term Nika just means sex that's all it means Estela and as terminology it's referring to the kind of contract that two that a couple have that's its technical usage its linguistic usage is just

having sex and hence you got a you know what I read this is why you gotta be wary of Google Translate because I read this today somebody actually shared a picture of Michelle who was I share who was reading a Nica right so he's an arabic-speaking chef and you've posted in Arabic but the Google Translate or the on Facebook had the translation of me so he he had posted in Arabic that he was with he said mahi Micahel mala

so Michael mala right who's by the way it's not his wedding it's not his niqab but he was just the maybe he was reciting or something he says he Achtung Nicola chefs in Arthur Lisa McHale that's what he kind of wrote on his oh sorry it's an Instagram Instagram post so he wrote that night it's not me Kyle's nikka but we just they I was there at this contract of Nika but Google translated it all sorry the automatic translation at the bottom said if my brother Michael mala right okay

now this car right now this got corrected right so okay so later on I think it corrected but it said on there I'm one of the things that I can't believe I don't know if this was somebody's messing around but he actually said it as within the contract of shagging the contract of shagging that's right so so don't be surprised that Google Translate and these things if they translate nikka as just sex because linguistically that's what

kneecap means it just means that okay so I thought I just quote that because I just saw it today right but linguistically means this contract now all Muslims are in agreement that nicka for Muslims has certain conditions okay that you must accept you know you must offer they must accept there must be some witnesses or an announcement or something like this that's for Muslims what about non-muslim Nakata so majority of all Muslims accept that non-muslim

nikka in their own in their own way or valid for us okay even though they are not Muslim but if they valid for them then they are valid for us for them so for example if a couple came and they said we are a couple so let's say a Hindu couple came or just a regular couple an atheist couple or anybody came and they said we're husband and wife well we're a couple we have to honor that that they are a couple we can't say oh well you know according to the conditions of Naqada they must be a mehar and they must have been two

witnesses or announcement and did you do this or did you do that no none even if they did a secret marriage nobody knew anything but if it was okay according to them then Islam has to honor them according to their way of life that's all so you get scholars like a monster Roxy clearly writes about that that even according to our mama Baha'i faces so even if non-muslims had got married without witnesses without guardian without mehar without everything but

they got married and according to them it was fine Aladin him if they both became Muslim they are not asked to repeat the Innoko right so the point here why did Muslim scholars discuss this point the point was that if people embraced Islam as a couple or as a family do we as Muslims ask them to repeat the Innoko and the answer is no we don't so in the time of the Prophet many people embraced Islam they were never asked to repeat Danika the Prophet never said oh you need to repeat any kind that ever and in

fact people in cribes embraced Islam they were never asked that you need to repeat your niihka so this is so just to be very clear on that okay now what does that mean what can we deduce from them well we can deduce from thee that the maker of the non-muslims is valid so if it's according to them they rules whatever their rules are but according to them it's valid so just like in today so let's say in in contemporary law so let's say you get

married in Pakistan now you're married in Pakistan now years later in the UK you decide to have a divorce now by the way many people don't know this oldest answer this time if you get married in a country abroad and you come over here with your with your spouse you're not automatically registered by the way many people assume they are they're not right but so according to the kind of registrar fees you won't be recognized as married however you can still apply for a divorce in this country now if you applied for a divorce you would have to

provide a certificate of marriage which technically wouldn't work in this country because the rules and regulations would be different to this - when you conducted your marriage let's say in Pakistan they could have been different like let's say there was an age difference well let's say this was your second wife in Pakistan whereas in the UK you couldn't have a second wife or let's say this was what are trying to say is let's say violated a condition that would have applied here but if you wanted to conduct a divorce and you provided that certificate then the English courts under international

treaties on recognizing that let's say Pakistan is a sovereign state would honor that certificate of marriage and say well okay okay according to that sovereign state therefore you can apply for divorce here so it works in a similar way in contemporary law now in Islamic law we work in a similar way and works in a similar way that had the reason we just roll back up wife like like when the hard drive breaks down you got a backup right so my point is when people

embrace Islam they're not being asked to repeat the Innoko that is majority outright overwhelming majority of orlimar of islam have been on that of that understanding the Maliki method the Hanafi method most all most of these methods all recognize that look if they were Muslim they are not asked to repeat the Islam so the prophets daughter Zeynep when she had married I will ask and as they he was a mushrik in Makkah when she came with the Prophet to Medina years later years people years later he came to Medina and they got back

together they never repeated Anika and she actually offered him protection and she came to see her and and to remember and then he embraced Islam he hadn't embraced Islam so and she's the one that actually said you know that he has kind of like and they had a system that somebody could offer protection and she said well he has my protection nobody should harm him and he wasn't harmed so there's a lot of different rulings people extract from that but the point is that the Anika was still valid and that's important to understand why that

shows that even though they weren't Muslim even though the conditions were being met but then Nika was still a valid Nika how else do we know that this is valid you see there's a hadith in vihari people the it's in kita Bonica and it's from aisha radi allahu anhu who says that Anamika feel jahiliyyah can allow our body and her that it's

hadith number five one two seven in Quetta Bonica that she says that nicka in jahiliya times was of four categories and then she begins by saying Faneca min her and one of the macaws from amongst those four was nick Ivana's a young is the Naqada people today are still upon so this hadith is really interesting why because it shows us that islam never introduced nikka he never introduced these things these were practices from

jahiliyyah the from pre islam the practices were already there so she says one of the four nika's of jahiliyyah is that which people still are still upon today meaning that you go and you propose and and the other person accepts and so on and that was that one of the nikah the other type seemed to be really interesting one was that mcallen our gifts the meal wrap that a group of people a gang of guys less than ten would get together and they're all

cooked they all enter upon a woman this is what it says I'm not making this up this was one of the jahiliyyah type of and if she got pregnant and gave birth from our earlier lynn barton Tamla are select alayhim fellow mr. Raj aluminum Anthony and if she gave birth she would then summon them and they had to all attend it's like the usual suspects they all back now it's like I mean the first time they did they were all like hmm and now that there's a child involved they're

like it's the same crew this is the old sober this time right so and then she says God are ophthalmologic I'm an American she says that and the woman would say that you know you know what's happened what you guys have done and now that I've given birth and then she would just say to any one of them he's your son and that's he and the guy had no choice if he was from that gang so this was the kind of that's not - the kind of gang

bang version of but that's that's what it says he's it sees that in there right I'm not making that up look it says Amy right so so if so that's one type of jahiliya another type was news tell me uh Natalie Kathy but this she says were but that was actually the decent women they weren't like kind of prostitutes or anything she says the fourth category was one of women that were prostitutes and they used to have these flags

hanging outside it doors right so so whoever that was the clear symbol that if you that it's all game it's hunting season it's so who ever wanted could just go and if she got pregnant she would just get them together then she would call a kind of specialist that would try to figure out through who kind of resembles so they used to call him the offer these kind of people that would they were really good at seeing things like if the fingers or the feet or the you know maybe the eyes they

resemble a certain person he would that would be an expert he would be like the forensic he'd like come in like well well well there's been quite a scene here that's the kind of job you want as a career that you are you being cold in that oh oh you're just busy as with the earlier crew you just part of the Royal Rumble

I'm going to work today you put on your gown I'm just walking through the streets this is like it's a difficult life this is difficult job but somebody's got to do it the cigar in your mouth anyway people so these were the different kinds of Nika that existed in jahiliyyah but the one that carried on was the normal one that where you go and propose and the other person accepts and so on so this you can see was not something that Islam introduced it was really there but Islam kind of allowed said there was nothing wrong with it

so that's fine now then you have the issue okay what about marrying so if they macau's of the non-muslims are okay in the niqab the Muslims are okay what about is they intermarried do we have any precedents first of all well one point we have straight away what what do we have any objections because if they make as valid an arnica is valid so what if they in turn me you know the they did the in turn occur then the question is well some people would say nope that's

not okay because there's a verse of the Quran is it's alittle mamta another where Allah mentions that la Elohim well Mia hey Luna la una that those women are not halal for them and he's speaking about those women who did Hydra and the Muslim women that came to Medina they not halal for their husbands back in Makkah and inna halal for them so somebody could object with that verse they could equal equally object with the verse that voila Thank You Allah katayama now that do not in Surat

al-baqarah that do not do not marry the mushrik at women until they believe and then Allah further states well I don't get who and do not marry off I'll mostly came to the mushrikeen as in your women folk do not marry them off to them had a yamino until they believe that's in surah Baqarah verse 2 to 1 now so the question is that well with these verses that could be an objection that okay that they can't intermarried well

okay well we've got that objection now what do we have in contrast to that what we have in contrast is Allah mentions in Surat al-ma'idah verse 4 Allah says yes a Lunik a mother or hell Elohim what as they are asking you what has been made halal for them hey Lala c'mon tiny but that good things have been made halal for you oh ma unlimited menagerie mikela beam to Ala Moana min ma a llama

common law and the animals you use for hunting from what you teach them from what Allah has taught you alone man I'm second o alaikum and then what they hunt for you you can eat from it is halal what chorus mala what Curtis mala he Ali and mention the name of Allah with tough line velocity okay sir then verse 5 a glioma or helicopter Javert what the AMA ladina auto alcazaba hello Lacombe what the AMA come hey Lola home that today good things these good things have been made halal for you the food of those who have been given the book is halal for you and

your food is halal for them well my son are terminal minute and women that chaste women of believers will mas an ottoman and latina ultra Nikita Birmingham Lincoln and the women of those who were given the book before you now that is really interesting because well wait a minute here you are marrying a Jewish woman or a Jewish man I'm sorry a Jewish sorry a Freudian slip there or a Christian woman right so the question is well there rules are completely

different according to a Jewish according to Jewish teachings the child so long as the mother is Jewish is always Jewish then you have a tradition from even a homeowner or the Elan saying that that the Christians are mushrikeen that they are some of the he says I don't know I'm Moochi greater than one who says Jesus is my god is my lord so if this has been made halal for them so why not for regular non-muslims to here is the question why not now one may say well you know these

people still believe in one God okay hmm but the question is well Christians can believe quite differently if you think about it Christians do you know what Jesus oh sweet Jesus you know that these kind of things like Jesus being Lord is such a primary focus of Christians yet it's permissible somebody some people have said oh the reason these people were okay because their food was a kind of halal and you think well really because Imam Malik answers that he says

and this was Imam Ahmed as well that the reason he didn't like Muslims marrying Christian women because it is not permissible for a Muslim man to prevent his Christian wife from bringing alcohol or pork into his home is not permissible in my Malik says less Allah who I am now he cannot stop her Islamic Lee even though it's his house now think about it you would think back then in a patriarchal society they would have stopped down yet Imam Malik clearly and Imam Ahmed said it is not halal for the husband to prevent his wife because it's

halal for them to drink alcohol to eat poo and Imam Malik said and it is inevitable she will definitely give her children pork because think about it the man is hardly at home he's probably working he's doing this and it's halal for her to eat it she's gonna cook pork well you think she's not gonna feed it to her own kids so and it was so easy for Imam Ali call those people to say it's the man's house he should say well this is my roof my rules you take the pork out throw it out you're not allowed to bring it but no he said lay Salah who I am not ha

he cannot prevent her from you know eating laughing things here all come up so okay so it's not the food it's not the influence of impurity and stuff like this hmm okay what about another spanner in the works what about the Medusa the Zoroastrian 's now here it gets a little interesting because Imam Malik transmits in his mortal people this is the book of Imam Ali Khan happy now he transmits about

the jizya values here in hadith number in this edition right 631 had these 631 from Malik from and this is really interesting you know Imam Malik sometimes he doesn't normally transmit from imam ja'far as-sadiq not I mean we don't know the reason but he doesn't generally have transmissions much from him although imam ja'far as-sadiq was his teacher but yet here Imam Malik is transmitting from imam ja'far as-sadiq from his father Mohammed Al botted from his father

ali zayn al-abideen and it got but then he says from Omar evening ha ha really interesting that Imam Malik brings a chain going from the kind of Shia Imams and then linking it through to Omar as well through him demonstrating that maybe you know things that these the things have just become unnecessarily so politicized that you know that they did have this kind of respect for each other and love and admiration so he transmits from Omar that the that he mentioned the

medusa's Rast Rian's and he said how what do I do about the I don't know so abdul-rahman Ignatov said I heard the messenger of allah say Sunu be him sonata alil kita tsunami him sonata anil kita that you treat them the way you treat the people of the book that go not just soon all I take the same Sunnah the same road for them that you take for so based on this when it came to having that could you have intimate relationships with these people you had certain

scholars all of some certain companions like they furtive Dalia man rowdy Allah on said you could with the miju's you had people like I'm ripping a dinar from Makkah who said you could you had a partner be robber who said you could especially and I know it's a whole different discussion I've discussed it in the past as well about things like servants and that they had in the past and slaves now but expanding on that and I've explained all of that in a separate segment and you can watch it out on I mean you can check it out on YouTube about slavery and I've explained how with trajectory hermeneutics that was to

be made how in time to come but it's interesting how especially in though but indeed in those aspects as well that they said that the sir Astri ins were just like the people of the book now now who's who's a student of even Abbas went one step further and said any idol worshiper - he said worse than yet even women who worshipped idols and he based this on the battle of the Prophet which was known as was brutal orthos that when they came back from thee there were

several women that came back with them that many of the Companions had relationships with and they said that Tahu said that they weren't Muslim and they weren't Adil get up they were mushrik at there were women that used to just worship idols now based on this people when you see all of these kind of things you understand that well okay so why wasn't this commonly happening and what you get is that look Islam in its early time was a make-or-break deal with the companions

and with the early communities and it was important that Muslims kind of set up families set up a society for Islam to really flourish that at that time it was going through an unstable and insecure phase in tight like today is farm like let's say when we are 1.8 billion people on the earth Islam is no longer insecure you know with the likes of me or you whatever we make no difference to Islam you know if Islam is here to stay now

it's not the same as it was in the beginning when Islam was simply a society now at that time if people started diluting and branching out it would have could have caused problems so this is why strongly emphasized the bond between Muslim between people of you're saying of the same thing so you could have that kind of a household even today this is the ruling generally within Islam I feel that it is still strongly encouraged that that is that you share common faith you share common goals especially when it comes to family life

but the question is if you didn't if somebody did conduct a new car with a non-muslim or somebody embraced Islam and the other partner was still non-muslim is that relationship still valid is it valid I'm not saying is it a good thing or should you be doing it but is it valid and I believe it is valid just as those other of scholars I've quoted and what's interesting as well is and the delivery under the verse of the Quran well at some sicko bi Samael cover feel that do not hold on to like in a

relationship to the disbelieving women this was a verse now some people use this as an evidence well if that were the case my first point would be that the nikah all ought to automatically have broken like think about it if this verse meant that a niqab doesn't happen between a Muslim and a non-muslim then that meant that all the Companions who had non-muslim wives at the time of his era right so they it would have just broken automatically if that was the case then why is it when this verse was revealed what atoms it could be a cement

Kawara fear right after the the women had done he juror Omer if not poverty alone had two wives who were still not in Medina they were mushrik at they weren't Muslim one was called Paraiba bint ABI Omega and the other was called OMA consume Binta immoral Hosea so Craver and umm Kulthum um replica table divorced them he said Allah , he gave them two lakh now the question is why would you be giving talaq unless the nikah was actually valid you'd only give

Palach if it was actually valid to begin with if it wasn't even valid then why are you giving 2 lakh so that's a further evidence really and this verse will add some siku bi Semenko a fear and this what I quoted earlier laa laa ilaaha hey Luna lon that they are not halal for them for those men and those men are not halal for them Sher Abdullah bin baya mentions that this verse was speaking about the mahajan rants about those women who did hey Chara and came to Medina it was not speaking about people in general because it begins by saying

that when the Mahajan at women come come to you and so on now so that that's what it was in contact and it was sorry it was to do with the context of just following the soul of hudaibiya and when the mahadji lot women came and the Prophet didn't return them because some of the machine keen men in Makkah asked for those women to be sent back and they would have been tortured as well and the Prophet refused to do it now so in this verse that lon hello lajiye I do not send them back to the Crafar they are not halal for them they are not halal for them this was a

ruling of saying that was specific to the what is it Mahajan art okay this is what share Abdullah bin Maher writes and how do we know that that they are not halal for them and they are not halal for them because other marriages were allowed to mush it to mush recap like like Christians Chris Christians are also mushrikeen from from one aspect they do believe in Jesus to be God yet the nikah is perfectly valid right and relationships with worsening at idol worshipers are going to tarou's and was permitted and with the Rast Rian's are

going to her they fertility man or the Elan and I'm ripping at dinar and according to orthogonal Yoruba and so all of these so this was the kind of summary to show that it wasn't actually as straightforward this issue that if a woman embraced Islam and the husband was a non-muslim female jasja brings nine different opinions right representing what to do in that or what the scholars have said in that scenario so to sum it up people once again that in that situation a woman can't stay if she

converted to Islam her husband and she can stay with in that relationship with her non-muslim husband if she wants to and what's interesting here site nor does she have to convert him or try to convert him and you know in a previous show some people I mentioned as some people were kind of they're making these clips about me from a prior Q&A where I was asked that you know what's the best thing for converts to do and I said don't try to convert your family and people saying oh my god oh my god

agent agent of the agent right well I want to quote to you this is madam owner of imam malik transmitted by student even a fasting right now he says now check this out this is imam malik people imam malik cult Oh our ETA in islamic tell Maura without you huh kaffir he says worry what do you say about this if a woman became Muslim and her husband

is a kaffir he says a year ago a la Sol gel Islam the holy moly Kamla is should Islam like should they present Islam offer Islam to her husband should it be offered like through her should she offer it or maybe people ranch should they present it to him oh la la you are other allele Islam fira la you are not

ally in Islam he said Lara do you do not offer or present Islam to him that was Imam Malik right why because his point is what for that's not how it works you know he he wouldn't know what Islam is because she's embraced Islam you think he doesn't know what Islam is if he accepts he accepts it if he doesn't he doesn't you don't need to be presenting these kind of things to Islam doesn't need to throw itself around it's not that cheap you know you don't need to

feel that all everybody needs everybody needs to embrace Islam Islam has a value to it if people want it they can come and have it if they don't want it that's fine there's no harm in speaking about Islam that's all good but my point was that there's no need for this obsession to try to convert people there's no need for that that was Imam Malik you know people say agent mm-hmm silly old hmm would they say that about my Malik the legend of Medina the dawn

of Medina that was from him I was simply representing people the school of Medina that was Imam Alex teachings so my point coming back to the topic is that look a woman can choose to stay in that relationship if she wants to right that's all I'm so that's the fatwa a summary of all of of what's being expressed the argument is that Nika was not a kind of relationship Nakara means a relationship a kind of ceremonious relationship which carries

different meanings in different cultures for us and Islam that there's right in most relationships there's some kind of rights for and and towards one another okay now and some kind of exclusivity now Anika was not something Islam introduced but Islam recognized as a important different studies point to Nika of any culture and community and any faith and no faith is equally recognized by Islam so if those if that couple embraced Islam or that family they are not asked to repeat a Nika

regardless of them performing the Innoko under any kind of conditions that we may not agree with but so long as they agreed with the in their lifestyle that we are a couple then that's fine Islam honestly so if Islam honors nikka's of any lifestyle or whatever to be valid then in essence they would be valid regardless of who was participating if there's a Muslim and a non-muslim so even in Macau between a Muslim and non-muslim would be valid the Delisle for that is when the Companions would

discourage from these kind of new cars people like I've known her poverty law I'm divorced his Christian sorry not Christian he's mostly is kind of pagan sounds funny to say pagan pagan kind of wives koruba an uncle who were mush riccati divorced them right so with these points and you've got the fact that as a final final point you have that Islam does encourage strongly a family kind of set up and a family

unit and they by does strongly recommend and not just strongly recommend that the Mecca is between Muslims if it is over Muslim so you marry a Muslim that is its Islam's primary focus so you can have a safe or a kind of a zone a harmonious zone in which you can raise children who would not be in conflict of faith between the parents and things like that so with these things in mind that's how it generally goes about that Islam that nicka was not something it introduced that it just acknowledged it also

acknowledged that of the different faiths that they were valid in their own right that based on that they should be valid between themselves as well okay so if they did saw whether it's Muslim and what if I in faith or no faith but that said these things are not encouraged in Islam okay they are kind of discouraged and you are encouraged to marry within the faith but these things would be valid if they happen so I hope that kind of sums up a lot of I'm just trying to

think if there were any so are the children right are the children it really really religious so what are the children I suppose as you bring them up they will be brought up I mean with the understanding that you bring them up you mean if they are let's say if one of the parents is Muslim the other is non-muslim they may be a conflict and this is why Islam encourages strongly that you marry within the faith that said that Mikael

would be valid there's a difference in it being valid and it necessarily being the right thing was the best choice from a faith perspective I'm not saying it's the best choice from face it probably is it may be a disastrous choice from the faith perspective but it would still be valid okay so there's a difference between validity and between the quality of something okay so I need you to understand that so the whole point today you was to simply emphasize that even if a Muslim married a Hindu for example that the nikah would still be valid but

it may not be a qualitative relationship and it may be a disastrous one from a religious perspective but it would still be valid if that makes sense they if somebody said traditionally the child has the father's religion not necessarily I mean if the mother was Muslim that's fine she could so long as she had a sway she could bring the child of a Muslim as you saw in the Jewish teachings so long as the mother is Jewish the child is Jewish not by the father and I think this is you know this it's not necessarily the case that it's

always with the father how about micariff Noor and his wife and Pharaoh and wife I'm not sure what the question is how about Anika I've got no idea what that question is Muslim marrying a Hindu a stuffer last about the wattle I'm not saying by the way I've stressed I'm not saying these things are necessarily from a religious perspective good or that people should do them I'm not saying that but I'm saying if they

were done is the nikah valid that's the difference and I feel it is valid most eSAB is your spouse Mossad we all Muslim in the sense that we will ultimately submit about the wedding night he means the wedding night well I'm sure who's thinking about worship on that night worshiping

something else like right people let's wrap this up oh my god is that the time god damn it's been awesome people epic as always right much love to all of you ah I shall any questions any issues reach out to me Facebook Messenger is usually better than the other Facebook messages but they're all good take very good care of yourselves till next week stay blessed salam-o-alaikum or Ahmed a lighter Ilah or barakato