New World Order - Age of Aisha - Hadith Historicity | Meetup w/Mufti Abu Layth

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whilst you guys are tuning in, let me just uh if I can just share this uh right, you guys can click like and share. Let me just go to right. You know, one of the challenges is that when a person, you know, whenever I take a little break on something and I come back, I'm always [laughter] at odds in trying to figure it out again.

So, how are you? Allah Allah, I hope you're well. I am well. Allah be praised. What is going on? Have to uh Allah doing it. Doing it you guys.

Allah bless you all. So what is preoccupying your precious thoughts [sighs] whilst some of you click like and share and tune in hi you know the [snorts] you know I um I make [laughter] it in this kind of chai maker.

You know that one that uh doesn't overspill. It's made with that god knows what space engineering. But yeah, so the intensity in other news amidst the crazy bizarre backdrop of the world right now.

And before we circle back to that on an ADHD tangent, man, I have really gotten into Turkish coffee. People are like, "Yeah, [laughter] you know, the the world the world is in disarray.

Um, you know, there's chaos, mayhem, confusion, and MUI begins by saying he's really gotten into Turkish coffee. [gasps] You know what else? Uh, we must take delight.

[clears throat] As we say, sleep is for the mere mortal. Say vampires. Allah has blessed us with day and night. Yeah. So I was reading somewhere that um that the sleep that the irregularity of sleep patterns and the kind of night owl vamp vampiric

um attitude to night you know being very nocturnal. It was saying that it's highly associated with ADHD. I I never never ever thought of it like that before in my life. I just but perhaps I mean this is what it was saying and then I since that I ended up watching a few things on it and it was like this is a u recurring theme for for people apparently or it's a common

um you know way of life for people with their brain fires on all these pistons so to speak. So um when it's nightfall they it's like they fight themsel there's a resistance to not sleep and they find a kind of peace or solace in the night. So, I wonder if that does is something that um you guys find in your lives similar or not.

Allah to me these things like the ADHD thing is it's just a different and it's if anything it's like a superpower. I sometimes I've spoken to people and they've spoken of it like a disability. you know, they'll say like um as if they'll introduce it as if they they have a disability and then when I'll ask what is [laughter] they'll say it's ADHD I think acha [laughter]

is this uh yeah acha is that but right circling back to more uh somber themes. What's this? Looks like I need an assessment [laughter] clear. Honestly, I feel I feel all of us that have been a part of this journey with me.

Um I feel many of us are we share similar traits these kind of maybe ADHD um characteristics and also a kind of vibe and aura because energy it attracts um it you know like for like it attracts the same kind of energy out there.

Yeah. So, what's this? Somebody's saying, "My bro has 80. His circadian rhythm is messed." [laughter] Yeah, I don't even think we have I mean, there must be some kind of rhythm, but um God knows uh what it is. I see as Allah has created us all very differently. I'll I'll share something that I um often from a uh from a safe distance when I view the lives of people that have

that have regularity to it that they I you know it's like I cover and like I I yearn for that kind of a life from a I use the term a safe distance.

So when I see people who just they just always you know like they'll go to sleep at 9 or 9:30 they'll wake up they'll do things always in routine they like I'm in kind of awe of those people and from a distance I really yearn like I have this kind of wow like what would my life be like if I had that in my life [laughter] the the stark and dark realities it'll

probably be so boring that I would [laughter] and you know in Allah gives us what suits our best that doesn't stop me however yearning that from a safe distance because I see such things and I think wow because you know in my mind ever since I've been young I've always had that oh you know one day I will do that like I think yeah I should always go to sleep early I should I mean I do wake up early on certain you know I before

school runs I try and wake up 6 something and you know like I'll try to go to the gym and do stuff like that but but my sleep is all over over the place and it's either too much or too little and but when I see that organization that people have it's not just the sleep it's the the lives are so they're just so ship shaped and everything in its place that I [sighs] think wow what a what a life

and and you know it's that thing that I suppose if you got it the grass is greener you'd [laughter] die of immediate boredom probably [laughter] but still you know as says that it is still a pleasant thought to entertain and to amuse the heart Allah Allah um yeah I take that daily actually.

I take magnesium. My I don't have any problem sleeping. I sleep very well. Allah be praised. I seldom have issues with that. I was speaking more about timings and um so not to conflate it with an inability. It's just I yeah like I feel my life and maybe many of you resonate with this.

It's always sporadic and it's kind of emo is chaos. By chaos, I don't mean catastrophe. I mean chaotic. I don't know. Is chaos not a good word here? Because I don't mean by that as a complaint. I mean by it's uh disregular.

It's like irregular and it's very um it's it's like a pollock painting. It's scattered and and then in that the magic happens. But um yeah, see I'm just sharing some random thoughts there. I wonder how many of you have lives like that as well.

Yeah. And the odd thing is we always in our mind this is what I'm saying like since I've been young I thought you know oh one day I'll do this I'll have this routine I'll have I see some people I'm trying to think of my siblings now and because I think maybe many of my friends are we attract like for like but um one of my my youngest sister actually is actually very disciplined with her time.

too disciplined and so yeah so when I see that from a safe distance right you know we share these reflections Allah Allah right now circling back to more somber themes I will come back to this um that's great question about seeking knowledge uh salam which books do you use

do use find your unique fatwa in sure I'll circle back to this as well beautiful questions indeed just kind of taking it from the top and bringing it right back the world is in chaos right now And you know, it's it's wild how wild the Epstein files must be that Trump clearly held hostage

um and subject to blackmail is really driving the new world order into place. It's ironic actually that what he's doing and it's you've probably heard of the beta region paradox that sometimes you see to that that there's this suggested paradox that to improve things have to get worse to improve and and so

what he's doing is He's driven much of the world away from the United States. He's singlehandedly destroyed the whatever vestage you know um whatever vestage of an image there was of American hegemony throughout the world its its military might its um uniolarity although the uniolarity of the US is a thing of the past unquestion

ably, but still the image it had. He's single-handedly destroyed that. Uh he's forced Europe to re-evaluate their stance that they now are discussing a one Europe army. They Britain is now once again opening its negotiations for a potential uh return to undo Brexit to become closer to Europe and ally itself.

Uh Canada has made it clear it's distanced itself in in unprecedented ways from the US. It's forged a new strategic alliance with China. uh China has emerged as this supreme I mean it was already a supreme contender but it's just become unrivaled now uh Spain has met with China to forge uh strategic alliance the UK although only one two years ago were villainizing China and now they're saying look we need to re-evaluate because America is

clearly I mean most of Europe or if we can use the word west in the symbolic sense. So not geographical west but the symbolic west and you have the global south. The symbolic west has for long wore a mask of humanism and human rights.

But it has been nothing but duplicitus uh hypocritical. It has been bigoted. It's been [clears throat] very um but they would do it with a mask as Allah says in the Quran when you say to them you know when you tell them that what's this corruption you're doing what's this wrong say us

say we are the we are those who bring about salah and goodness but that mask has been so torn from they face as Basam Yusf said, you know, that it began really I I feel it actually began with the Russian Ukraine war, but cuz they started to show their racism.

They started to say things like, "Oh, these people are blonde and blue-eyed and all this." And you know, for once, they started to publicly say things like this. But what that did is it shifted the military might away because Russia just emerged as a champion which was unexpected. They were assuming it was going to crumble by the sanctions, the embargo, the uh you know uh prohibition from using the world banking systems.

Russia just its ruble grew stronger than ever. It started trading in the ruble. It forged stronger alliances with China. it started to like it just became and it started to test its um like its military equipment is now war tested. So so that happened um and and then you've got this whole thing that it uh did with Gaza.

this kind of hypocritical stance of ignoring and saying, "Oh, October the 7th, October the 7th." The world saw this kind of the jalik, this kind of uh it's very evil, sinister um bigotry from the symbolic west and and it became fed up with it.

But then what this Iran war really did is it showed that they were not a god. You know, it shattered this the idol the idolatry. America, like many of the great analysts or many people with that are doing great analyses on this war have highlighted that America is is incredibly strong with its military of course and its technology, but it is World War II strong.

So it is like immensely astronomically powerful from a World War II perspective where you have crazy man, you know, you have like crazy technology, you have all this kind of naval power, you have uh aircraft carriers, you have aerial superiority.

That's World War II strong. You fast forward to where we are and it is a different ball game alto together because now you have ballistic missiles, hypersonic missiles, cluster uh submunition missiles. You have drone warfare. You have like ships are now just sitting ducks. They're useless. In fact, they're liabilities.

And to show how much of a liability they are, America Trump once again with no idea what he's doing. On one hand, he's speaking about peace. On the other hand, he's sending more troops to the Middle East. He sent the aircraft carrier again. And the aircraft carrier circumvented Africa. It went round Africa to come up on the other side. It feared going through the Red Sea.

And why? Because it realizes the Houthies are going to destroy it. The Houthies, like the superpower of the world is afraid that its 12 to13 billion aircraft made for war is going to be destroyed by one of the most impoverished places on Earth by people who are really just seen as guerilla warfare ready.

Like that's the kind of people that America is, you know, seeing them as. And they're having to redirect an entire round the entire continent of Africa to come up on the other end just so they don't get attacked by the Houthis. Can you imagine what Iran could do to that? And Iran has emerged as a true superpower. I mean, the Times uh put Iran as the four fourth new superpower of the world on its cover page because it now is.

And there's no denying that. And yeah, it's And [clears throat] you have to love the Iranian Lego videos. Oh my god, they are on such a hack. They've really just um they've just figured this whole thing out really. Wow. Allah protect the innocent protect as well.

I feel that the world I agree with George Galloway that the world is with Iran and sees Iran as a hero in this. You know, they mocked George Galloway when he said that, but I agree with him that he he's right that the world sees Iran as a hero. It's shocking to see some Muslims criticizing Iran.

Um, I don't sorry, not just criticizing. I don't mean as in they're immune to criticism. Of course, they, you know, they're not angels. Everybody's it's a political entity. But I mean not like considering them in this war of aggression against them as bad and evil as the you know the genocidal state of Israel.

Like I've seen certain so-called da'wah people saying things like this. It's Allah I don't know what you know. I just find that preposterous. Um, yeah, I do feel that ayatah, you know, may Allah bless his a and bless everybody's a that has passed.

um he did more to unify the two streams of Islam, the Sunni and Shia Islam than I feel anybody in recent history. So he beginning with the fact that he declared it haram to uh abuse verbally or insult the symbols of sunnah the companions or the wives of the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam.

He so he has and his fatwas have been around for for years. In fact, even many years ago on my Monday nights, I did cite his fatwa. His fatwa and there was the fatwa of ayatistani. They had both said that. And I feel by taking this stance against the genocidal state of Israel and the uh you know the kind of terrorist regime of Benjamin Netanyahu that he has really done something which no Muslim has had the backbone to do and

whether it's politically motivated or not is besides the point. It's immaterial to the discourse because he's still taken a stance. nobody had the courage to do. And he burst this bubble of this big facade. And really he had to sacrifice his life to take it up to that level because in what you know in recent times it like where do you have a head of state being assassinated like that in war?

It is a war crime and it is against international law. And yet he knew that that would happen. But that's the blood it would take to allow the, you know, the rise of the will of the people of Iran.

That has been going on. uh and you know there's just mayhem the uh global crisis may Allah grant ease to everyone suffering worldwide um as a consequence and some more than others another hero that has risen from all of this is Spain that Pedro Sanchez his government the way they've reduced tax the way they've subsidized the hardship and cost of living by reducing their uh their kind of import tax their

income tax by reducing VAT by further subsidizing the fuel so it doesn't hit the pocket of the everyday citizens on the ground like that is true leadership you know Spain is the spine of Europe honestly um Europe has so much to learn from Spain and I, you know, people around the world are feeling proud of what Spain [laughter] have no affiliation with Spain yet they're feeling proud rightly so because

you know Islam encourages us that always to honor justice whatever ounce or shred of it you find wherever you find it you know like this is and because Allah says in the Quran that justice will always be found in the vicinity of godliness.

So yeah, [snorts] that is going on. I wonder right. What is what's this? Because you know the coming doesn't work is hawk. I don't know what that what else has been preoccupying your precious thoughts people.

I will share the link shortly and you can join people can join and you know I'll let's have you sharing a thought a dialogue. [gasps] Meanwhile, I saw somebody sent me a you know this thing of the age of Aisha

that some increasingly people now are awakening to Uh and really you see this, you know, the sad thing about this age of Aisha, um whole fiasco that's been going on is really the calamity caused by the da, you know, the so-called da

boys. And the reason being that you see many people including molanas and uh Ola they've stood by that opinion unfortunately they've stood by that opinion but they've not beat the drums about it. They've not um broadcasted it with megaphones, so to speak.

They've stood by it, were asked, they've mentioned it, given one, two very poor explanations and then tried to shy away from the discussion. Why? Because they recognize that the discussion is harmful. It is insulting. It is hurtful to Islam to the honor of the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam. Um and it is blasphemous like you are in the vicinity of blasphemy.

Now even if you know Jalali has a discussion in his book Alawi where he's speaking about what if you're addressing certain things that were factually accurate about the prophet sallallah.aii alaihi wasallam. But in the current climate of discussion may come off as terms that generally or descriptions are perceived derogatory.

And and guess what he's talking about? Things like being a shepherd, being unlettered, like somebody who couldn't read. He says it is haram haram people. This is in his fatawi. I believe it's the second volume. You can check it in the index page.

He says it is haram to describe the prophet with that part of his life to the public which even if factually true was to appear in that context when you are describing it as something they see as beneath them in that society.

And he's the examples he's talking about, look at this, is being a shepherd or being somebody that doesn't read or write. And the famous example and and the the reason for this study of his or this um fatwave is is that in Egypt at that time um two people get into an argument in the marketplace.

It gets heated and one of them starts insulting the other person and he says that you know oh like you know get lost or get out of here you uh and he calls him a jahil ignorant and he calls him illiterate says you know you um oh sorry I think he calls him a shepherd like he calls him either illiterate or a shepherd it slightly slips my mind and as part of the insult.

So, so he is the wrongdoer, he is the aggressor, he's calling the other person these things in the argument. You know, you know, we're on at the heights of the the bazar. Everybody can hear they they've got into this argument and the other guy says as a reaction that so what if I'm a shepherd?

So he's insulting him that move away you know you're not even you have no etiquets you're just a bedwin you're just a you you know you're a shepherd [clears throat] and that guy says so what if I'm a shepherd the prophet was a shepherd now the local their version of the police they used to have you know the proto police before the police was created you had they called them the sha they were like a police as well that were run by the local magistrate eventually this gets to them and They arrest this person, the one who said, "Who's the victim?" Who says, "Well, so what if you, you

know, if I'm a shepherd?" The prophet was a shepherd. He's taken to the local magistrate, the judge, the ki, who for his bad luck was a Maliki. Now the Malikia we have had the highest benchmark when it comes to the honor of the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam. Zero not even a decimal not even a decimal of tolerance for blaspheming or insulting the honor of the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam.

Other maths have been like they they don't accept it in principle either, but they've shown more clemency towards people who've done it. They've tried to say, well, you know, this person maybe he wasn't maybe he didn't mean this and maybe he don't, which to be fair, I do think is a good way, a humanistic way of looking at things. But I'm just describing the Maliki school right now.

It has zero tolerance. So this person who reacted like that, who got victimized and said, "So what if I'm a shepherd?" The prophet was a shepherd. The Maliki judge sentenced him to death. He sentenced him to death for insulting the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam. Now, as you can imagine, [laughter] the shock you've had by hearing that, that person must have had an infinitely more bizarre shock.

And so he says, "What on earth? What have I done?" And he said, "Well, you see, yes, you were a shepherd. And yes, even if you're saying the prophet was a shepherd, but that person in their context today is using it in a derogatory way. For you to bring the prophet up in a context that is going to be associated with shame and derogatory or um you know porative language.

uh to bring the prophet up in that context sallallahu alaihi wasallam is blasphemy and according to the Sharia unforgivable. [snorts] Now that is the Maliki interpretation. So he said and therefore according to the Maliki way you will be sentenced you know to capital punishment execution. Now obviously this person freaked the hell out as he came out.

So he pleaded and then he you see because Misar Egypt was multi-disciplinary had many mhabs. So he then reaches out to another magistrate and lodges an appeal with him saying look I'm shaf so I should be tried by a shafi church not a maliki church.

Eventually they agree to his appeal and he is punished but not uh execution or capital punishment. They do agree to shifting him to a shaf judge. Now highlighting this whole incident, Imam uh Jalal Latinauti has a thorough discussion on this and agrees that yes that person should not have been executed but he was wrong and he should never have brought the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam up in this vein and in this light or in that context.

And he goes on to highlight this. So these so-called da'wah boys who have been beating this drum, let me tell you something. Look, wall I swear by Allah. If because they believe this was permissible is permissible to marry a child. Yeah.

If their father had done that or their grandfather or their uncle, let's say he did it in a country where it was legal. Let's say hypothetically, let's imagine there is some country somewhere or their grandfather did this in a time when you know that that country hadn't even been made and it was under and it was somehow legal. Let's just argue that for a moment.

their grandfather had done that and this was brought up. I swear by Allah they would not they would refuse to even discuss that to ever bring it up. They would run a million miles from that incident. Why? Why? Because they know it is insulting. They know it is abusive.

They know the shame in it. So if that was their own father, their grandfather or their uncle, how dare they attribute this to the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam that to with bravado with a kind of unapologetic chest beating kind of attitude of yes and so what?

How dare they? Wall that curse of them insulting the prophet like this with such bravado. Even though it was made clear to them that look even if you believe this this is a right you should treat the honor of the prophet as paramount and you should at least leave this discussion at the very least. Right? Even if you believed it but refusing this the curse of this action will follow them throughout their lives.

They will find that unease as long as they live with that, right? That they just for some ridiculous clout or some kind of following they threw such such insulting mud on the honor of the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam that it's become so popular today that people say this straight away.

First thing they say is they insult our prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam with this heinous allegation of pedophilia. Right? Allah seriously and these things they tear our hearts open that they did and and people did this with a bravado. See look many am stood by that opinion. Many am stood by it. I'm not saying anything to that.

I disagree passionately. They stood by that opinion of this which I believe 1,000% was wrong. But they stood by but they didn't beat this drum. They recognized in their heart that look this is not right to you know to so they shied away from the discourse rightfully so. Maybe they said it somewhere and they said look that's in Bkhari and you know we shouldn't really talk about it so much or we shouldn't.

They shied away. They did not try to beg clout of this discussion, seek a kind of bravado, you know, act like you this is some kind of unapologetic Islam that we're going to beat the drums about and popularize this to that extent that every bloody tom dick and hurry now that comes to question Islam, this is the first thing they say about our prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam.

Right? So Allah. So yeah, you know, and I I say that that this this is why these people who have done that that will follow them throughout their lives and they should not take it easy. You know the honor of the messenger of Allah in the eyes of Allah is ultimate and these people their honor you know it's nothing in comparison their lives are nothing in comparison that they live out in this dunya right and if they're

prepared to ridicule even look I admit that they probably didn't do it with that intention I accept that they didn't do it with this intention to insult the prophet. But that's what was happening. You know, it's like the child or I say child, it's like the let's say the son that brings dishonor to the family name by doing heinous crimes.

Now, his intention may not have been to dishonor the family, but that's what he's doing. So I accept that their intention would not have been that oh we're doing this so we can dishonor the prophet. Of course I don't believe any Muslim would have that kind of intention but the fact that they were well aware that it's causing this reaction and still refused and now you see people them you know trying to concede to it.

Oh well you know this view exists in Islam. Of course, it exists in Islam. Um, right. Right. So, let's see what are some of the questions people have.

[sighs] Right. What's you know I feel the right I'm going to share the link and you guys are more than welcome. Let me go back to there was a super chat shared and they were both very similar. Was it the same person? In fact, um there was which books do you use to find your unique fatwa in?

And I'll answer them both together and seek knowledge deeper in our struggles with becoming trying but hard. Firstly, may Allah make things easy for you and you know may Allah open upon you his wisdom. Amen. and teach you from Allah's you know may he teach you a mean right so what books do I rely on [laughter] you know this is an interesting one because in many ways

this ties back to what we began today's meetup speaking about the ADHD Uh and they're kind of very desperate um kind of somewhat chaotic in patterns thought process that I have.

I have always struggled to to further my learning in a linear fashion. that my learning is very ADHD like as well. So I will learn things in a way that like let's say I'm reading something or I'm watching something or I'm listening to something.

Let's say I'm reading and I'm reading something whilst I'm reading it I'll come to a point where I will formulate a question like let's say I'm reading oh this happens in this thing because of this and I might think well oh well why because of that now a separate tab so to speak will open and I'll start researching that and then whilst I'm researching that I'll jump to another point and I'll start researching is and so I will it'll almost be a cluster a kind of tree

of learning it won't be a road so I have seldom ever learned my theories from a single book and and so this is why it becomes hard to explain or guide people to a book So, and I don't mean by this the generic stuff.

The generic stuff. Sure. So, let's say you were to say, well, you know what? What can I read from Malik? Now, of course, I could just list a book like just read that. That's fine. But I take it you're asking more about the more unique kind of uh concepts and research and thesis that I've arrived at.

like let's say whether it's going to be about the age of Isisha although some books have now been written or art I say [clears throat] not even articles but like I mean a kind of compendium if you like of research has been done on topics like age of Aisha which will colleate things but let's take something like Bkari gate as an example or another theory uh you won't find what I've presented in one book because that's not how I ended up with it.

I, you know, was doing some research. I formulated new questions, started a new thread of research, began another question, started another uh thread of research. And and so it's like I have these 25 tabs open where I'm looking at all of these different things that are somehow connected, but can be entirely different though. So like let's say I'm reading now and then I'm um reading about Bkari gate but whilst I'm exploring that I might think well okay um the the concept of Isnad and let's

say Fabri now okay who is Fabri at the same time I'm researching him now who are his key disciples I'm researching them what is this ana now I'm researching in a different selection uh okay can somebody try to pass this off as you know like these are all separate they're not going to be listed in a single text um that's how my learning I call it the Socratic method because how Socrates would teach that you keep teaching by asking questions asking questions and that's what my inner

kind of voice does so it will keep questioning things keep questioning and then I'll kind of spin off and do this research on it and then I'll spin off on another point and another point and and somehow Allah just guides me to where they all connect. It's really weird because sometimes I'll find myself joining dots that I would like they've they are shown to me.

I could not have found those. I feel that it's it's almost shown to me in that you know from Allah in a way guided intuitively to to how these dots are connected. Yeah. I think sometimes the not being able to just sit down and only read one book at a time.

So this comes back to that when I look at people who live very organized lives and I covet it. I desire I kind of yearn for it from a distance. I see people's learning has been like that. Like they've sat down and just you know it's like they've read these 12 books. That's what they've done cover to cover.

They've read these 25 books cover to cover. My learning has seldom been like that. There are some books I've done obviously cover to cover. Uh but my learning hasn't been like that and it's been like so sporadic and sometimes I think that makes us have the imposttor syndrome that we then question ourselves that you know am I being an impostor then by um you know because I'm not doing it how

other people are doing it in this But I think having the impostor thing every now and then to me is it's ironically maybe a sign of sincerity. So yeah, I I don't let that stop me. But sometimes I will feel have that feeling like I'm sure you know I'm presumably many of you guys have it as well that sometimes I will think well you know what what the hell do I then know [laughter]

I will think then what do I actually you know if I'm not reading these books or learning the way people learn then you kind of second guessess yourself. Yeah. So that's my learning. Uh the other advice on how people should learn I do advise that you go through certain text.

You see my let me just caveat my point by the way of learning keeping in mind that I've completed an alim course though [laughter] and a muti course. So to complete them those books I had to complete cover to cover during the syllabus when we lived in Madras. So when I'm talking about my learning I'm talking about postgraduation not to graduate.

So to graduate I had to obviously study all the books that we all had to study and I had to be tested on them you know several times a year and pass the test and each year in order to keep qualifying. So that we of course had to do but that was a bit easier. Why? Because when you live in an institute where everybody you're gradually every day reading full-time then I can read like that because we've all got to do you know it's like work you've got to turn up to work.

So it's a bit like a conveyor belt. So it makes it easy for people with these kind of ADHD minds because we have to turn up to class and then we have to do the work in the class. But if left to my own device, my way of thinking and questioning will not be linear. That said, so my advice would be to actually go through some basic texts at least on a then maybe watch some videos, maybe try this sporadic learning with Arabic.

I do feel that it is a must. That does remind me I am going to start I did in Ramadan by virtue of some of my uh Patreon um subscribers and my Discord people. We actually did a whole collective group. So those of you that are on right now, much love to you guys. Allah bless you all. We did a collective where I was trying to access my old Arabic course where I was teaching because I had lost it and then I

retrieved it but I didn't know how to live stream it anymore. It was having a software issue because it was so old. It's about 13 years old or 14 years old now. It wasn't running on the current Windows operating system, but shook to uh my Discord group and my Patreon people. So, we did a group collective call and we figured it out in the end.

They figured it out and guided me to it. And so, I am going to inshallah start live streaming those old Arabic lessons to help people who are learning Arabic. Um, somebody said, "Could you talk a lot faster?" I'm sure you can just play my thing at a faster speed. [laughter] I'm sure that will just make it easier, won't it?

Let me send this link. So, what else has been preoccupying your precious thoughts, people? any you know I was uh listening to this lecture by it was on lanian psycho analysis and it was discussing anxiety it's like what is anxiety from a lanian perspective lan it's interesting that it highlights that anxiety from a l from lacan's perspective

was not um it was almost he he describes it he builds on Freud but disagrees significantly or symbolically he says it's not it is the the anxiety is the it's like the desire of the other be becoming aware or the or it's struggling with the desire of the other with a capital O

and it is where there's too much of the presence as opposed to the absence and so he uses this term that is the lack of lack and he gives the example that if we go back to the infant with the mother. So the infant struggles with the between the mother's presence and absence.

And as Freud says, this causes anxiety. But what Lan was adding was that in this early stage it's almost too much presence of the mother that is making the child uneasy and unsettled because they don't know what is expected of them and this results this phenomenon in anxiety.

I was thinking about that. I thought, h that's interesting. And I was then mapping that onto a theological framework that you see, we are like we are between presence and absence from our mind's perspective of being in the being in being in the watch of God like we are

like we know Allah is always present with us but then in between we forget and this is the hadith that the hadith in Bkari you know when uh the companion says rool when we're with you Um um what's that?

All right. So when right okay there you go. Right. The companion says Allah when we are with you we are in this state of tawa and God consciousness but when we're at home or with our family or with our friends or you know we're in other states or let's say we're in intimate states or we're in states of laughter or we're in states of we forget you know we're not in this uh and the prophet

sallallahu alaihi wasallam said um that alhamdulillah a moment for this and a moment for that. And I was thinking that this thing that Lacan is saying a kind of like if we were to be in a in perpetuity just constant state of this hyper vigilance divine hyper vigilance.

It would create an anxiousness for the an anxiety for the soul because and this is where we see some of these great mystics of Islam were in that state of anxiety that they were unsettled. we see um Rab Adawi and uh there's narrations from Hassan Al Basari or many of these people these great mystics they were in this um

you know Bahul or al- Masari or you get these they were in these um states of anxiety because too much of the presence. It renders the person hyper aware but then not sure how to deliver and perform.

And Lan gives this um he gives this kind of metaphor when explaining this of the praying mantis. I found [laughter] it quite intriguing. I'll share it with you. Um he says that that the praying mantis, the female is often known um to at least in the majority of the times po post kitus shall we say post intimacy

once it has engages sexually with the male uh praying mantis. The female will often devour it. It acts out cannibalistically. It eats the male. Um it'll kill him, eat his head. And so now with that in mind, and I and I and I believe some the black widow of the spider may do the same, but Lan gives the example of the praying mantis.

He says, "I want you to imagine that you all of a sudden are in front of this female praying mantis and you are wearing a mask of a praying mantis. So you are a praying mantis all of a sudden in the eyes of this female praying mantis and there you are.

But you don't know whether your mask is one of a male or a female. So if it's a female then the female is not interested in you in that way. But if it's a male then she is but you don't know what your mask is. You know it's a mask of a praying mantis but you don't know whether it's the male or female but you are in the glance of this female praying mantis.

So this not knowing who you are causes a great sense of anxiety. And he extrapolates from that scenario to us in this world of not knowing who we truly are. And I would extrapolate further onto the theological framework of not knowing who we are in the eyes of God as well truly and being unsure.

You know, am I this person who is truly ungrateful? Am I this person who is or am I this person who like who am I? And in the hadith that know that Allah watches you. Know that you see Allah in fact. But if you do not see him, then know that he sees you.

That he sees you. Allah abar. I did share the live stream. Did I not did it not get sent out? Let me send that again. No, this is the wrong link. This is sending something about a H. This is sending something about a discount for joining something. Let me send this people.

Streamyards just Yeah, Streamyards is just uh Yeah, that's sending something to just join Streamyards. Look at it trying to plug itself. Let me I've shared the link right I insan our journey through this dunya you know there was this there's this poem the poet says

Allah. He says that I was saddened by knowing this that there are some problems to which even you are not the answer. Allah, that which I

forfeited or you know relinquished in seeking you or searching for you, even you are not the replacement for those things. Allah Allah what a perpetual cycle of just you know this kind of there's a word in udu kashmakash the the struggles of this tuna guys if you're clicking I'll share the link and you will need to activate your mics

and the camera to show up here and then I can add you from here to the live stream. Okay, just sharing that out. Otherwise, we can call it a wrap. And where are we at people? H that is the human search isn't it?

In other news people I've been I was watching some of the more recent um interviews by Bob Lazar again. I do believe this this alien thing. I know people laugh and mock. I do believe they are real and and they are out there and they have had contact and these cases I do believe them to be legitimate that we have been that we there have been successful retrievalss as well.

I believe the Roswell case, the Virginia sighting in Brazil case is some of the most, you know, like reasonably irrefutable um lesser so the Phoenix Arizona case, um the Tic Tac videos. But I do feel uh that that that these jin they possibly that that that that is then that they sorry that these aliens they are like let me rephrase it.

The jin are aliens. The jin are not what people think they are. So people picture the gin to be some kind of um poltergey spirits that are just floating around or but rather that the jin is a very diverse category and it is the unseen because they are out of sight for us that they are non-earth life force out there that exists in these other galaxies and that They are the jin

that that's that is so it's not these kind of spirits and demons the way people have been thinking they are. Let me We've got some What's this Abdullah philosentah [laughter]

bless you? Um what's this? Ganguti is in beef with Danny boy recently. Miy I've not been following any of these people. I have some people have sent me some uh clips of Daniel Hakadju challenging um a lot of the selfies and stuff. So I've understood he's done a complete um well I don't know if it's a complete but he's definitely done some of a U-turn on certain positions.

I don't know exactly how many of those positions but yeah and some people are attacking him for I think supporting that's one two clips I didn't watch them fully so I I don't know the full I've really tried to stay out of watching even preoccupying my headsp space with a lot of this um like I might if somebody sends me a very short clip let's say some clip where there's just a highlight ite.

I'll watch something like that, but I won't watch their lectures or videos or their debates. And I'm not saying you guys don't need to. It's just I keep my head space kind of clear of that. Ah, you know, life has too many other more valuable things to reflect on. Right. We had here is Talib let me let me add you to the uh you'll >> the camera if you can activate that

shakan. >> Okay. I prefer not to show my face on public. I'm a bit shy with that. That's fine with you. >> No unfortunately that's the policy my brother. >> Sorry about that. Yeah, >> brother. I believe I've show already showed you my face though, like when I was in the backstage. [gasps] >> Right. So, if you want to Let's There's another one. Is this Who's this? Iso, right?

Is that Iso. If I If you can activate your mic and activate the um camera, let me add you. All right. Uh, right. Where are you joining us from?

And what preoccupies your precious thoughts? [laughter and clears throat] >> Well, actually, I'm joining from Bosnia. It's almost 4:00 a.m. here. So, >> Allahbar Allah. >> Yeah. I'm tryingless to be quiet. [laughter] I totally appreciate that. But wow, how how is it in Bosnia?

>> Oh, it's it's nice. Uh we just uh qualified for the World Cup, so yeah, it's EU4 currently. >> Well, I don't I'm not really into football myself, but yeah, I I'm in an extreme minority. I understand. Uh yeah, but yeah, for me it doesn't really >> I don't follow I don't follow either too much except the national team.

I'm more into basketball. So yeah, but I didn't had any special questions to be honest. I just wanted to test this how this functions. [laughter] >> Well, it's a pleasure to have you on. And yeah, I I do think places like Bosnia are blessed places. May Allah ease the suffering that they've been through and just really there there are some amazing people I've got to know over the years from Bosnia.

Some of them my Patreons. All right guys, if you're watching this, Allah bless you. Um yeah. >> So yeah, I mean I did I just wanted to say I don't have a question but I want to thank you because um I found about you from my friend actually like maybe five, six, seven years ago. I cannot even remember anymore.

And yeah, your lectures and your videos were really helpful and mindopening I would say especially for me. Yeah, especially for me because I'm coming actually from the Muslim like religious background. My dad is a imam. My brother finished Alasar. He studied in Egypt. Uh >> yeah.

And I was really into and I think at the when I was younger, I went full extreme. So I went that Salafi way of understanding Islam which was I would say a big mistake in my life. Uh but yeah thanks to you thanks to my mind my brother. Yeah I came out of there there and yeah I would say now I'm at at the right place and at the right spot in my >> Allah bless you and bless your journey.

I appreciate your kind words and also just wow you're from a household of may Allah put baraka in it and you know Allah open upon you his his treasures of knowledge and wisdom. Amen. >> Sure. Uh yeah. Mhm. >> No, I just wanted to say I I mentioned you a couple of times even with my brother when talking about like Islam in general and yeah, he also watched some of the videos of you and he's also amazed uh by your way of looking into things.

So yeah, that's that's pretty much it. I just wanted to join here. >> Well, Shukan, I appreciate you for sharing that. It truly is a an honor and once again shukran Allah bless you people that was from uh Bosnia Allah bless him and right uh it's just uh yep we've got who is that Javid Aman yeah just a second before I bring you on you see people that I uh will always look make

things, [laughter] you know, there's just certain common courtesies. Yeah. You know, and and people, you need to kind of get with it. You know, people are less, you know, forgiving when we're not dealing with kids. You know, when you're dealing with an adult, you expect a person to have common courtesy.

So, if you come on here, you will abide by the rules. You know, you'll kind of if I say you'll switch your camera on, you'll switch your camera on. You're not going or you will simply not come on. Okay. Similarly, I I I'll tell you another very irritating factor. [laughter] I find it highly irritating if you know sometimes some people they will have a um like let's say they have they get hold of my contact number and they message me on WhatsApp.

Now I don't usually chat to people on apart from people I actually know but every now and then somebody might message. I usually leave social media for that. You know, you can reach out to me on Instagram. Um, you can, if you need a detailed discussion, you can go to patreon.com/malm and just book a consultation with me. You know, you'll get an hour's consultation, choose your slot, we'll have great lengthy discussions.

Um, but sometimes you'll get some people maybe I've given them my number in the past or they've got it and they'll message me but not introduce themsel and I find that very rude. I find it like I also find it very egocentric and egoistic that you assume that like as if your your self within inverted is so like such a substance that it is known like if I reach out to somebody I will always introduce myself

um I will say this is who I am I'll say a nice courtesy and then I'll whatever the reason for reaching out. That's like basic sense. But you'll get people, they'll kind of message you and they just be like, "Right, so here's my question." I think, well, [laughter] firstly, who are you?

Secondly, why am why do you think I'm at your service? Uh, so usually I will say to people in because I'll, you know, I'm a patient person. Usually I will say I'll repeat I'll kind of give them the opportunity. It's like whoever that idiot was that just came on. I'm saying idiot because you see I'll give them the courtesy to kind of just remind them like I'll say to them that uh excuse me sorry who do you mind introducing yourself?

Who are you? Uh and they'll just say something like I'm Ahmed. Okay. Ahmed G, [laughter] you know there's this uh you know there's uh what was it? There's this movie a uh there's a Bollywood movie where um it's a bit of a gritty one.

I've forgotten the name of it where some foreigner is killed in India and so they've got all this you know this police force on it trying to track down what happened to this uh because it's a foreigner becomes a big case and they're trying to catch the culprits. So they track it down to this one place that he on that night he he goes in this cab and he stops to he's trying to get hold of some drugs. So, he stops at this shop and he asks this.

So, they come to this person and they say, "Uh, you know, we've got it on camera. He's talking to you and we know he wanted some drugs, so you've obviously sent him. Tell us where you who." [laughter] So, this guy says, "Yeah, yeah." He goes, "Um, he goes, "Uh, [laughter] what does he say?" He says, "So, you know, like I sent him to Kalu [snorts] and the copper goes a slap [laughter] and he says,

"Is this my uncle or something? Who the hell is he? Tell me who he is." You expect me to just hear a random name like that and think? So out of common courtesy, always introduce yourself. And this is not to do with just me. This is this will take you very far in this world. It's common courtesy. You know, if you introduce yourself, explain who you are, a bit about yourself, you know, like for example, this is who I am.

I'm from this place. This is what I do. I'm a student. I study these things. Or I'm a person. I'm involved in this and this is my thing. you know give you introduce yourself you know like have some etiquette to you and then ask and that's common other um yeah so I thought I'd just highlight that because look much of the dean is sometimes we have to teach the dean almost like how a dad has to teach his child and this is you know like coming through the hadith that I am to you like a father the prophet

said that I teach you as a father teaches his child. And then you know with that responsibility the people of the class the dean the the then inherit that responsibility having to teach other people as if they are their fathers that we have to kind of teach basic etiquette. So think it over.

Right. Other than that, right? So shan let me see. Oh much love to to you all in Bangladesh. Allah blessed blessed country and blessed people. Amen. >> Do how are you?

>> Glad you remembered me. I was worried you were talking about me during those >> message. [laughter] Would I ever dear people those of you that don't know this is our beloved doc all the way from the states PhD expert people in his field unrivaled. Those of you that are looking for in a moment uh Doc can say just a small bit if you like about your work.

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There you are. Thank you for your kind words. >> Oh um >> how have you been doc? >> Alhamdulillah. Good. I guess like yeah you know we we talked briefly about other things. Oh like um you know I just saw that you were live streaming and I wanted to join. Um >> no no absolutely a pleasure. No it's it's always a pleasure to speak to you doc.

>> Yeah. How how are you finding it? Right. I was going to say, you know, with all this going on right now in the >> um are you, you know, like on the ground in the states, >> you know, I want to share that I and this is for um just the general people out there as well. I had no idea I knew much less than I thought I knew about American political system.

So the actual politics with a capital P like the usul that goes into politics the kind of so I just wrongly assumed and and intuited wrongly this is that they had a uh you know like a vote for no com like a vote of no confidence system. So America doesn't have that. I only recently came to learn that.

So like >> can you explain what a vote of no confidence means? Yeah, like I'm not familiar with them. >> So like let's say many political systems around the world, they have let's say the leader of the country is behaving in a kind of inept or incompetent manner. they the the kind of in your case Congress but Congress doesn't do this or parliament let's say what they would do is they could take a vote of no confidence and if they if there's a depending on the law like a two-third majority or whatever it is the leader is

immediately dismissed uh so they have a vote of no confidence as a system to prevent decay now the US I assumed had this now I only recently with all this going on with Trump, I thought to myself, why are they not doing a vote of no confidence? Then I realized, oh, you don't have a vote of no confidence system. So you have >> we we have something similar. We have the impeachment.

>> So impeachment. So when I looked into this is it must be criminal. >> Not necessarily. It's actually not. It's actually not. >> Okay. So what I was Okay. So what I was looking into it with AI because I was trying to ask it to explain to me. So it was explaining that like okay so maybe I mis I understood it that it must be a criminal indictment and then it has to go through a process of the two houses to >> uh be indicted for what is ultimately I thought criminal behavior.

>> No they say the high crimes and misdemeanors but it's still not like a trial per se. The way it works is >> it is a crime though even if it's a low-level crime is it? It's well >> I thought it was what I had read was the impeachment must be a crime even if it's lowlevel like let's say corruption bribery uh anything like it could be a low level it could be like a white collar crime but it's still a crime it's not for example uh negligence of duty or incompetence is not impeachment because it's it's not a crime.

So the other thing that you guys have is the 25th amendment. But the 25th amendment I ca came to learn was only over illness or disease that would render the president incapable and you know to to to function as a president. So like some kind of debilitating disease or illness. Now I know they are challenging his mental state right now.

>> Dementia. Yeah. Potentially. Yeah, >> but that becomes a So I found that very odd because I thought well you see like unlike a vote of no confidence. So like let's say I hire you to run my company. Now let's say you do nothing criminal or you do nothing uh you know you're mentally still there but now you cause massive loss and incompetence. you know, you're just doing blunders, uh, and you do a blunder after another blunder within, let's say, the first three months of your, you're doing all these blunders.

Now, in any company in the world, you'd be sacked. There's no, you know, there's no uh, two ways about that. If you're just if you're bringing the company into so much disrepute and you're so much losses and so much, they're just going to sack you. >> Yeah. >> And I assumed that, well, you know, how is America not like that? So what AI was telling >> there's a health there's a healthy population of people that do like what he's doing.

Uh you know it might not be the >> for me but the but the US like why does it not have that mechanism? >> It impeachment technically is the mechanism. You don't have to like the president doesn't go to jail for being impeached. They just get removed from office and famously >> but it must still be criminal though is it not? Not necessarily because especially the second impeachment uh not to go into too much American politics, but like the second impeachment um uh in during his first term, they specifically said it wasn't criminal because the reason why many people didn't vote uh to to remove him from office was because they said, "Well, he's going to go

through a courtroom anyways and he's going to be ineligible if he gets convicted." But he never went through a courtroom. And so it was just a matter of like >> but from what I understood so when I was I was I was discussing this out with AI I was trying to understand so I said well you see so no confidence all of a sudden in a person is not enough to remove an American president. So it was saying that like it said incompetence is not a reason and and I said well this doesn't make sense to me why not.

So AI was telling me that and this was in the dialogue I was having with AI. It was telling me that the system has been set up in that way by in America so as to protect the president [snorts] >> so be easily removed. >> It's very difficult. Yes. But it doesn't mean it has to be criminal even if he misappropriates funds like >> but let's say incompetence is not incompetence isn't sufficient is it?

Well, you have to in confidence won't like he doesn't spend. >> So like let's say now you are I hire you as a director for my company. Now even though you've been a great person but now you're you know you're rendering losses to us >> uh one after the other there's blunders. Now that's incompetence. Even if you were competent in your previous company, but to us you're, you know, we're seeing this as incompetence and either negligence or just incompetent, sheer incompetence.

So we no longer have confidence in you. So this no confidence is based on like incompetence as opposed to because incompetence is shown by what you're doing now as opposed to your history. Like you could have been let's say a very successful doctor working somewhere but you come to this place and you're just making these let's say hypothetically blunders one after the other. So we're not going to say well in your other company you might have been doing really well but this right now is just incompetence and so we're going to sack you based on that.

Mhm. >> So my understanding was impeachment didn't allow for that. Like it allowed for you to be like you're doing something which even if it was lowlevel but it was some form of misdemeanor at least not neglect or incompetence or ineptitude. It didn't consider that.

This is what I was I was learning anyway cuz this made sense to me then. That's why he's not been removed so easily. Yeah, he he's not being removed because there's a healthy population of people that don't want him to be removed. >> Also, I think it's not easy to remove him because a straightforward process. >> It's impeachment. You have to get 50% of the House, which the Republicans control. So, that's never going to happen. And you have to get uh twothirds of the vote in in Senate, >> uh which is impossible.

So >> and also the grounds of impeachment I think are not easy to always pull through is it? You can impeach like this even during Trump's second term like uh articles there've been articles impeachment almost every other week for just random things but uh you know let's say whole process yeah >> like Nixon was caught you know with clear kind of corruption the Nixon tapes so now that kind of corruption in office or a misconduct in a public office like that makes grounds clear grounds like for an impeachment

Even with even with Nixon, he was not directly tied. It was the Republican National Committee. So, and this was before he was president. So, it wasn't him directly, but it was uh like so like it's it's in in Trump's first impeachment and it was his phone call with Zullinsky where he tried to let's just say the quidd proquo ask uh like hold back arms to to Ukraine.

>> So, like it wasn't necessarily illegal. It was just his his judgment was often uh but uh you know >> so a kind of but then but then that would say well I I see but then that would be why he wasn't successfully impeached as well but obviously the system is rigged in a way that it's very difficult to get >> he was impeached he wasn't removed so there's a difference impeaching is like the process to go to trial right >> but then yet the trial is what >> yeah sorry yeah I I mean successfully impeached removed.

Yes. >> So yeah. So you see so this is all new to me. So I was assuming that there is just a a straightforward vote of no confidence. Uh but then they said that the reason the philosophy behind all of this is that in a presidential system the president is almost like a king like a momentary temporary king.

like he like the public are voting for him per se unlike a parliamentary system where they're voting for a party which nominates his prime minister. Yeah. >> So it said because people are rallying behind this person per se the American this is what I I was kind of arriving at with the you know what I was reading was that the that this system is made in a way that you cannot remove it is on purpose difficult so as to prevent like let's say for example people don't just remove people because they don't like

them. That's obviously the logic behind it that let's say let's say you're you are a hardworking president but people just don't like you all of a sudden. So just by not liking you they shouldn't be able to remove you. So that was the kind of logic I was finding. >> Yeah. And and that's exactly right. But you have to understand that like who is the judge to say what's impeachable and what isn't? It's the people that are doing the impeaching Congress themselves. They hold complete power.

So it doesn't go to Supreme Court or anything. It's just Congress decides this is something impeachable and we're going to impeach you. So, it can be a popularity thing, but it's very hard because, you know, we have a two-party system and it's >> Has there ever been a president completely removed like that? >> I mean, no, it hasn't like Nixon was but he resigned before. >> Yeah, I was going to say with the Nixon thing, but he so you know, right?

But also, am I correct in understanding that you see what Trump is doing? I don't think Americans even were under the impression that you could do all this stuff. So he's like an unprecedented like the way he's just doing all this stuff and you know not taking Congress or just going into acts of states of emergency and declaring this executive order that executive order doing this to like >> my impression is that many everyday Americans didn't believe that a president could even do stuff like that until he's started doing it and then they've realized oh that oh so he can do

that then partly am Uh yeah, you're right. But it actually was very recent in the sense that like the Supreme Court before Trump was elected showed uh kind of explicitly stated what the uh rights of the president are. It made him much greater in the sense that like you can't actually formally charge the president with a crime while he's president. This is something important determined in 2025. So, >> didn't they recently give refuse the indemnity for previous because didn't he try to ask there was some article about him uh asking for indemnity to do with

the Epstein things which if if proven were historical and the Supreme Court denied that it said only in the presidential >> um you know like as a president he has like indemnity but it doesn't it's not historical for him. Like if it's if things are like do come to light against him, he would be indicted for them. >> Yeah. Has to it's only when he's in office >> that he's kind of protected, >> but he also to be charged with the crime or or do anything with the even if it's previous until after he's done as president.

So they're basically like kings. >> Wow. Yeah. Because he is essentially like a king, isn't he? Um it's just wild, man. Like I like I don't I can't seem to make like people are thinking what the hell is going on in the world. Yes. And I I mean from his perspective look obviously life and death is in the hands of Allah but >> but you know like from his perspective he's an old man.

Yeah. And even if he's giving himself a certain amount of life, you know, whatever that is in optimism, um, I mean, he's incredibly wealthy as it is, uh, more wealth than he could ever want to spend, uh, or possibly physically spend. Now, what he's, you know, these kind of stunts he's pulling to kind of short-term manipulation of markets to, you know, this person's earned a billion here, this person's done this, the chaos throughout the world, the the way that the rest of the world, how Europe and like US allies have distanced themselves categorically

from the United States now. how and it's really been as a reaction to what Trump has been doing, you know, saying we're going to pull out of NATO, we're going to do this, we're going to do that. >> For regular Americans, we as Muslims already have a different perspective because we always feel, you know, we can see where we are victimized as Muslims and kind of stereotyped and all, you know, we're all there's always a hypocrisy unfortunately and a bias against Muslims.

But to the greater public, they don't always see that. But now, surely they must be feeling it now that what the hell has he done to the United States of America? >> Yeah, it takes time. But yeah, you're right. I think um I mean he he's his wealth has increased dramatically since his second term. At least >> wasn't he already just so Isn't there a point after which money doesn't mean anything?

I think at this stage I mean if you're a billionaire you can be multi-billionaire so it still matters. >> What does that mean though? Isn't it like so because you know they show that look so this so there's like when you by near the kind of line of poverty you're above or earning a certain amount earning so much more makes a an actual significant jump in subjective well-being and happiness.

But let's so let's say a person in in the UK earned £25,000 a year, £30,000 a year. Let's say an average person and all of a sudden they earned 80,000 100,000 120 like they would become so much more happier. >> But let's say a person was earning 180,000 >> and now they earned 350,000.

That jump in happiness doesn't happen like that >> because in studies >> because because there's because the money after a certain >> thing doesn't result in real world differences in the same way. It's just like a number that's piling up but it's not like if you're living like he's living it large living in mansions doing all these things. Life doesn't change you know it's just >> it does give you more power.

Like that's at a certain point once you've gotten to the billionaire class then it's about accumulating >> wealth power. >> You have to pull me up into that class with you. >> I'm not I'm not quite there as you can tell by my little >> throw me a lifeline and pull me up. >> I'm not quite there yet. But >> I have to feel what this [laughter] but I mean these wealthy people they they want more wealth. It gives them more power, more access, you You know, I was speaking to someone >> and they were speaking about the uh uh and it's very similar to Trump because he's in the same class as those people.

They were speaking about the Pakistan politics of Noah Sharif and that family and especially Noah Sharif as an example. But it's the same thing with Trump. one could say now that look they like I said that look there was a time now I get it there's constraints and in Pakistan there's the army and stuff like that but there was a point where Iran Khan had been removed by the vote of no confidence used corruptly in that case now the the public all of a sudden rallied around Imran Khan his support massively jumped uh Noah Sharif his family had

tried to take over And they lost so much respect amongst people. And there was all these clips wherever, you know, there was wherever he would go, people would start saying like George, George, you know, thieve, thieve. And there's these clips that he even went to do Omrah. And at Umrah, people were saying it >> and you know, he was in London and people would drive by sometimes make a recording if they saw him ever and say George. And the guy's in his 70s and he's a billionaire.

And I was saying that you know at that stage of life like imagine now like let's have another run of this simulation let's say he realized look actually I'm going down in popularity and I'm this old I'm at like some you know the last kind of chapters of my story. So let's say even if he did it insincerely, let's say he said, you know what, guys, I don't agree. Let's say he said, I don't think Iran Khan should be power.

However, I see the will of the public and the passion of the public. And you know what? Out of love for you guys, I'm going to step down and invite him back. >> But really, because you know, I let's say he said, I feel he's legitimately gone, but you know, this is your love, your passion. I'm seeing it. I hear you. I'm going to do this. Now look, he's a billion. Look, look where his status would have gone in the eyes of the public.

Now imagine he just as a retired person went around the world. He built a little school here, built a hospital there. You know, he's a bill like his money can never run out for by spending it himself. Like you know like his last chapter of his life would have been with and will have been with so much dignity. Everywhere he goes, people would love him, you know. Can you imagine that love? It's >> Yeah.

>> You can't put a price on it. Now he's turning up to places. He's hiding himself at the final stage of his life. People are insulting him. >> You know, by his perspective, he's a billionaire. And I'm I'm not saying this to degrade the person, but by his perspective, like a is coming up to him and saying, "Hey, you thief." You know, ch like so in his perspective, he's thinking, "What honor have I got?" So in Islam we have this thing of katama that may the final seal and chapter of your life be one with this dignity and grace and so I don't get it like what is

it like how much more power and money and like is that not better like it would that love not even if you did it insincerely would that love not be better than this disgrace? I'm confused at this stuff. Doc, talk to me. >> I like I don't know what to say to that. I think it's I think everyone >> because even Trump is similar now. Look, he he had a cult following. Now a lot of people are, you know, mocking him.

Wherever he's going, he's getting this. And so isn't it's a bit similar to that same class of >> um Yeah. So I don't get it. Like people say to me, well, yeah, but power is addictive. >> Mhm. I get that. But surely that you'd still have the the other kind of power and status and love and >> perhaps I'm guessing that these billionaires have a type of power that we can't really comprehend >> as regular folks.

You know, [clears throat] the idea is that maybe we can think about this idea >> that hey, >> you know, having people like us is a great >> blessing in its own right. But then having wealth in such a way that you know you can change politics policies you make sure your children also have that same power. >> This is why I say ya Allah give it to me in that unlimited quantity. I will shower it with the I'll join you guys.

I'll enjoin all of you with me in this [laughter] [gasps] >> I'll spread the love people. >> Yeah. So, >> well, how else have you been, doc? Everything's been >> good. You know, I had one question. I think I I I uh texted you about it. So, and and I I really want to make it short just so because I know we have our monthly meetings and whatnot. So, I'll let someone else also join if possible.

>> Um but you know during the last clip on on Friday, I I always hear the story of the woman of uh Gamadia. Have you heard of that? the particular has mentioning the woman who was stoned. >> Yes. >> Yeah. Yeah. And that that particular story has always bothered me. >> Um because you know I think there there are a lot of elements to it. But I mean first off I like I just want to make sure I'm fairly sure it's a authentic narration.

There isn't any sort of like uh issues with it in that sense. But it it does have some issues in the sense that like you know the first time the woman approaches the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam that um the the prophet kind of turns his head away and almost acts like no you know just make >> just make um is uh you know ask for forgiveness right and then >> and then kind of she returns and then kind of the next step and next step >> u but it's troubling because it's kind of like Well, you know, maybe perhaps the estar is not enough in the sense

that, you know, we always think that just asking for forgiveness is enough, but in this case, it wasn't. >> Cuz I, you see, interestingly, I'd like to join a dot, you know, my neurodeivergent brain, right, between the Ramadia and what Ramadi has said. >> Okay. Um and he makes an interesting point about we have to understand that hadith are historical records.

And he says, "Look, in early Islam, we didn't have any official or so-called professional historians that who set about their entire existence in trying to go and collate certain, you know, do fieldwork and collate certain uh narrations and put them together to make, you know, sense of something in a very historical, professional way like we didn't have in fact Muslims our first historians appear probably 150 years after the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam so

what he highlights is that what happens is people were jotting down things like you might say oh you know like an incident might have happened and you might say oh yeah you know I remember my uncle uh he once witnessed this and he said this incident happened and I might say hey yeah I was once in this place and I heard this person say this and these things are getting collected.

Now that is a tremendous effort of the Muslims in collecting that. However, when these things come into kind of contra like they clash with certain other evidences, then we have to I think at the very least it puts some question marks in trying to understand what may have happened and maybe to what and sometimes there might be like in some cases there might be some incidents that for example are 100% accurate that's how it happened some cases 100% % may have been made up but

in some cases you might have some truths and some things being you know they kind of grow like a memory around it and people are back projecting they kind of trying to fill in dots of what may have happened. So I find this whole thing of the stoning to be something like of that because when once again like what Ramadi Sab says I find myself in agreement with that that you see stoning is not in the Quran categorically and in fact the teachings of the Quran seem to go against the teachings of stoning because

because not just it mentions a separate punishment It also highlights um that upon uh the slave girl the uh kind of the the kind of those who have been married and so on from the slave guild they will only get half of the punishment.

Now you can't have half a stoning because the general argument is oh the Quran saying you know uh that you know we the the lashing of the uh fornicators they say oh well this is not speaking about the ones who are married >> because in Arabic the term for the married is or this is with the not with the scene that who is those who have been fortified through the institution of marriage.

Now, so they say, "Oh, the zany and the zia is speaking about the it's speaking about the one the the kind of bachelor, the non-married uh people committing zena." That's why and the Quran just left out the stoning. This is the general argument given. However, uh people who challenged this uh they highlighted uh and you get um you know like sheh Abu Zah as well from um from Egypt and in the past and and other people kind of highlight this as

well that and this is what Sab speaks about and other people and and and me as well I I find myself in line with that group that look actually the Quran does because when you follow the verses. It then speaks about the same punishment for the slave and the servants and the slaves. And it mentions the word when it comes to the slave women. And it says they just get half of the punishment.

So, and you can't have half a stoning. So, what this seems to show, what it seems, this is what it appears and we're trying to join some dots. There is a hadith that some of the people of the book uh the Jewish people came to the prophet and they asked him to judge them by their law not by our law Muslim law by their law. >> Yeah, I've heard that.

>> And the prophet and the famous one where they cover >> covering >> and the prophet says remove your hand and it says stone them. And then the prophet says well that's what your books say. So you know if that's the judgment you want then there it is. So it seems that before this ruling of the Zena was revealed that incident happened in Medina that the Jewish people came and the prophet and they said we want to be judged by ours and this happened.

Now from this there was an understanding that okay in which case uh we should because we are also people of the book >> we should take appropriate that law and what may have happened here is this incident in some format of the not maybe with the exact detail because maybe people when they're remembering it cuz like the person saying oh she came at this time and the prophet turned away then she came again now remember Some person is narrating this of a spread out memory, >> right?

>> That is allegedly over a good [snorts] while. >> Yeah. Like possibly many years. So now some things may have had some truths and some things people may be filling in dots that >> there may have been some incident about the now there is a narration uh where which is in the Muslim of Ahmed where the companions the prophet does not do it the companions stone a woman or um um they stone a a person a a Um I think it's the same incident to do

with uh it's the I think M is his name I believe. So they stone him and when they're stoning him they try stoning him and he starts running away >> and he says I do Toba and he says take me to the prophet but they don't. [snorts] Now when the prophet finds out about this, this is in the of Ahmed, he rebukes them and he says that you you should have left him alone and he says if you had left him maybe he would do Toba and Allah would

do Toba to him. Why did you not leave him alone? So maybe some companions seeing that incident of the Jewish people did practice this. Maybe this then upset the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam like in this incident and then the verse was revealed. However, and the verse would have abrogated the stoning now >> or maybe the stoning one could say, you know, abrogated one could say maybe it was never really part of our system to be abrogated, >> right?

So it was just an >> yeah sort of you have the understanding that we're just taking the traditions from like the >> yeah tradition of the people of the book and this is our rulings. Now however what seems to have happened is after the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam has passed away there was all these other incidents going on the civil war the kind of battles the whole thing of the disagreement of the caliphate and and all these things happen that by the time they stabilize and it reaches the time of

>> people certain things they are asking that what was this is does this happen and talaq for example the three talaqs the prophet saying you know they're saying it used to be like this the Islamic calendar for example the uh it goes into a bit of freeall >> uh so first the the Muslims used to follow what the Jewish people would regulate they would have like a 17 year cycle where they would shift back with a leap called it nasi then the Muslims because of all these things they don't keep track of it then they just let let it be now and there's no harm in that because look at the end of the day you

know whatever we're going by we're going by you know it doesn't really make a difference to Allah it's for us so in that time this then appears as the practice like the practice just carries on that okay this is part of our Sharia now and it seems to have then just become a part even if in theory of the Muslim uh fick and the culture.

Now they are asked in fact there's a narration uh I believe it's in Bkari where I think they attribute it to Omar saying that oh I used to read in the mus it would say that the stone them now this doesn't make any sense because the Quran is preserved how could the Quran have been caught lacking.

It can't. >> But what does make sense? You see, there is an interpretation that this may have been sa Omar may have thought he read that. Now, some people have said I believe it was uh one interpretation may be by Muaki as well. I believe unless I'm mistaken or that it was written as a footnote like a commentary like somebody had written it and he's recalling that another interpretation that I've come across is that you see the that he read

this in the Torah >> because you know there's the hadith that the prophet he comes to Omar and he's reading the Torah >> and he says to him that and Omar would often read the Torah and he says to him look you know even if Msisam was alive today he would follow the dean Ian that enough of this like leave it >> and that there's an interpretation that that is a mismemory so when he's saying I'm sure I read it in the mus he did read it in scripture but it was actually in the Torah

and he's thinking oh did I read it in uh and and There's several occasions where look he asks the people you know what is it that the prophet said and then somebody says he says this and somebody says because he's asking them because he's saying that look maybe like I'm not you know I don't clearly recall it and there's nothing uh in any sense wrong about that because you know this is amongst the greatest of Sahaba to us but that's the Quran [clears throat] clearly is preserved and the Quran highlights that this is not part of the punishment system.

So I feel that some of these hadith when later being you know when people are relaying them they are joining some dots and you know like in hindsight they're making a story. >> Yeah. >> Like they're saying cuz the story makes sense in this way. Oh yeah, maybe it happened like that. Maybe this person she did this and maybe this happened. But I is that that's how I make sense of it.

I don't see it as how it's being depicted in that very clear way that it's being I think this is only in hindsight being you know when people are looking back and making sense of the narrative they're fitting it in accordingly. >> Right. >> Yeah. So that's my thoughts. I don't think that the uh prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam stoned anyone.

>> Um with the Jewish people when they asked I feel he he did allow them to do it because they said that we're going to do according to our law and we want you to just make sure that it is according to our law. So in that incident I feel did happen and that's the source of this whole regimen thing appearing in right >> um yeah and then because of his m I feel a lot of people uh didn't like that culture of challenging it uh was suppressed because out of uh

honor and respect to snar and then saying well you know maybe because Omar is saying it. So maybe it is that way but and people just didn't challenge it. Um yeah so that's an interpretation that has been shown by many people like sheh Abu Zah and other people many of the ahari uh Saban Ibrahim today. Um yeah and yeah so I would see that as making one being a lot more consistent with the reading of the Quran.

Yeah, >> that's more reassuring. We'll see for that. >> Very welcome. Yeah, Zach, it's been an absolute pleasure having you on and we'll catch up with our onetoone. But till then, it's a glimpse of the N has been a pleasure. [laughter] >> Right people, uh that was our beloved Doc from the US, a PhD expert in researching.

Oh, I forgot to get him to highlight what re is researching uh things like technology and cancer research and so it's very breakthrough and for those of you um doc can be reached that are wondering I know some of you yes our doc is single people still a bachelor so those of you [laughter] that are also single you may reach out to our beloved [laughter] Doc's probably be like, "What the hell?" Yeah.

So, um, right. So, I am going to wrap this. Oh my god, I've got an early start. People, it's been two hours. There was I think Sayyad, you know, I missed a call for us. Uh, there was said Ali. Uh, was that I wasn't sure whether that was was that say? No, no, no. That's uh Iran.

and say that Imran Ali from I believe Canada uh learned brother from the Shia community that we met up with a few years ago. For for some reason I thought it was him he jumped on but no it must not have been but right people I will till uh next live stream I'll see you all then. Uh once again much love to all of you for joining in this sporadic ad hoc [laughter] timing.

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So I do hope but once again [laughter] I understand it's very late also for you. >> It's very late. I do have I have to I want to chhatam I have to if I can wake up for the sub for the gym and then the school run in

>> uh people that was say mahar I believe from India. Um what he was saying in essence is this argument of why um you know we have certain issues that are in the Quran. Why are people so adamant and stubborn to like the example that me and Doc Javeed spoke about uh the stoning or whether the talaq issue he picked up on quite a bit that the Quran has several verses about the talaq?

Why do people have such rigidity in dealing with this? And I did say that look uh uh he did highlight that maybe he feels that there's more hope coming from the Shia community than the greater Sunni community. My thoughts were look I do feel that there is hope on all sides. Uh but I would like if I could have my two pence is look let's encourage this reflective analysis but from the lens of compassion and love.

Let's not go at it in a bashing way. uh it doesn't get us anywhere you know like you know this thing of like you know like you you and don't get me look in the past I too was a product of that you know I've uh torn people down just as much as they've tried to tear down let's say me or other things but I felt you know part of maturing and and just growing is that look that's not the way even people who are taking horrible stances are coming from from a position of love.

Now sometimes they are being very very like the age of Aisha thing. This is why I said even on that the am were stood by but they weren't beating the drums about it. But some people who did that and I do feel that that that was the unnecessary and unwarranted but these other opinions let's say talaq or these other things these of the past they weren't coming at it from they didn't hate Islam they loved Islam.

So sometimes you know we some suffering is resulted by good intention you know like people with good intentions can bring about challenging circumstances as well. Now they you know we don't cast judgment on them. They were great people. We don't compare to them. And but to us there's the primacy of the Quran first, the honor of the prophet first, the honor of Islam first and then the of the So that

was my thoughts to um uh the respected gentleman. I did feel we were getting late and I was like thinking, "Oh, I've got to but I don't want to be rude." Right. So guys, I'm going to wrap this up. Uh if you did want to reach out, you're more than welcome. If you'd like to arrange a onetoone um I do usually have it here somewhere.

That is this it? Uh there it is. Uh so you can for a one-to-one consultation you can just visit patreon.com/malm and it's tier two that arrange allows you to then uh go in and you can book uh during the month we tend to have onetoone it also there are options to that does enable you but also a lesser option enables you to be part of the discord as well where we do have at least on average about twice a week we have a group discord chat as well.

I mean uh I mean they always have a group discord chat but I mean I have a live discussion with I mean me but other than that people it's been an absolute pleasure. Allah bless you all. Listen, I want to say signing off that you know in these difficult times when the world is in turmoil, we must we must against all odds, against all logic, we must hope and we must smile.

that you know I'm telling you there is something you know the the world one could say that in the world there is matter and there are there is force there are force fields and you know some of the ancient Greeks um I believe it might have been Democrus but they were on to something that the two essential force fields are love and hate Because if you think about it, what is love?

It is attraction. What is hate? It is repulsion. And really, is that not the force fields of the world? They are. So mirror that the name of Allah alw okay the loving. And you know it's interesting that Allah doesn't introduce him like in himself as al- mo although we can call Allah al- Mo as well but he introduces himself as al-w

because it is a higher form of love. See it is the one that has actions of compassion as well. And this is why Allah says that when between a couple he doesn't say but this the noun for because it is a higher practical compassionate love.

It is more deep-seated than just saying love. Okay. Because because just a love could be a cruel love as well. You know, sometimes some people they have like a tough love and they have a uh like they love somebody but they're twisted, a toxic love. But ma is that compassionate love. And this is one of the names of Allah Alwe.

So and just mirroring that and smiling you know like against all odds against all logic and you know when we're worried and we say well what will come of the world what will you know this is happening the cost of living the cost is the world going to go into shutdown lockdown is this going to happen is this listen just detach to say Allah Oh, you know, you know the narrative the has its he will take care of it.

My job is just to get through today. [laughter] Just one more step and detach from that worry. Allah will take care of it. By the time we get there, Allah's already taken care of it. My job is just to smile. Just going to smile. going to spread that positivity and you you'll see that all of a sudden, oh, amazing things are happening, you know, oh, I thought that was going to be a problem.

It's already been circumvented, Allah. And to top it up, to boost it, you know, if you're feeling a bit low, do an act of kindness. Just go out there, do an act of kindness to someone, smile, give way, pay for something, someone a little drink or you give somebody something or you it doesn't it's doesn't even have to be financial, but even if it was anything just it boosts your im and it

brings back that reliance and Allah people Allah bless you or keep you always uh smiling.