Which Self Of Ours Moves Into The Afterlife? | Mufti Abu Layth

[Laughter] always keep you smiling god he really didn't have to do something like that i feel uh honestly i feel terrible had an interesting discussion with a friend and we were talking about heaven and hell it made me think do we move on to the next life with our ego or identity could it just be pure consciousness they made a good point in saying that it would be the point of this life if your identity didn't follow since that what would be the point of this life if your identity didn't follow since that's what you would be judged upon

yeah i mean you see there are olama who argued for consciousness is what continues people like the great maliki scholar ibn rust and other people and and you see because to them consciousness is the rule and that's what to me as well consciousness is the rule so is it just the rule that continues or is it the body and um some people like classical maliki scholars like

they were of the understanding as well that it's just aurora and i i believe ibn hasam is of the same understanding as well and this is what even uh ibn arush then another great i think is as well that it's the the ruach and this is i will uh believe the same with ibn arabi mahadeen ibn arabi and many other mystics that it is the the soul or consciousness that continues then the next questions that you ask about well well what does this mean how would it be how what would being con you know experiencing consciousness be like what

would uh what's rewards or bliss going to feel like what are certain um tragic consequences to that going to be like what what is a representation of that for this we can't understand this the closest you could possibly get to that uh mahmoud is to walk a path of trying to develop consciousness in this dunya and that's through certain deep meditative practices and you can link them in with spiritual elements and

you may get some understanding of what being in the pure i i love the somebody once shared with us an example of the ancients saying that consciousness is like the stream or like a like a lake and and thoughts are like the the ripples and the waves that run through it and you know with that you can't see into into the lake it's only when it is still and it's really difficult narrowing down the thoughts your consciousness is still you you see but you you think you are the

self you think you are the the thoughts when you're saying well the person asks that oh well if we don't have continuity then what is the purpose there is continuity but the continuity is of consciousness of the soul not of the you that thinks but it is still you and you would know it if you saw it or if you experienced it you would know that it is still me it's just not this me and it can be experienced to some like they can be some approximations made in this world for people who do

um walk that path of trying to understand consciousness they do experience that and they understand it and it is it's a let me let me give you the closest example i can give you without you having the experience is like saying so let's say mahmoud you you are mahmud when you wake up in the morning you don't have to tell yourself i'm mahmoud you have a you just know that there is a difference between that knowing self

and the other part of you that has to oh i have to do this oh i have to get that done i have to make it on time for this oh i want this i better plan for that there seems to be a different dynamic to the self that just knows so the way this is like an approximation the way you don't have to think that am i mahmood am i this person you just know that that is the level that is the entry gate to consciousness to the

the rule just knows it doesn't it's not it's just experiences it's not like it doesn't have thoughts and ideas and it doesn't do things like that so it just it's the pure now pure sheer experiencing so it's it's obviously difficult explaining these things because these are experiential things and it's hard explaining them in words because they're not an academic equation it's not a it's not an information deficit it's an

experiential realization i mean you