Occasionalism & Understanding God | Mufti Abu Layth

shallow Waters Shook on much love for the superchard you critiqued occasionalism in the past you talked about the importance of the laws of nature but in my honest opinion it leads to deism because if nature is doing all the work how does God interact with the world no it doesn't necessarily it doesn't lead to days and but sure it could if you're asking could it lead to that could be one possible iteration um but not necessarily I always find it um in interesting that we think we could

we can understand God I always find it ah inside inside you got to give it to inside I mean we can't even understand basic mathematics and we want to understand God that's crazy isn't it can we understand Infinity can we truly can we even understand

space can we think of space the universe you can only think of it inside more space [Laughter] you know the the the the famous mathematical um proposition of where you add every number to the one succeeding one plus two plus three plus four keep adding till Infinity add infinity you know what the answer is it's minus 1 12.

so which but makes no sense but that's the answer so it's like what the hell is that about or you try to divide something by zero it's incalculable incalculable as in mathematics breaks down if you divide by zero this is why Einstein said black holes are where God divided the universe by zero breaks down it's not just it breaks down you want to understand God yeah and that

too you want to understand him so as in in such a 2d [Laughter] but you gotta love the audacity the audacity it's something now wow but yeah so if you want to understand god let's begin with quantum physics because once you start to look at that then you realize truly how dumb you are as a human being then you realize damn I haven't even and I haven't even

entered the realm of divinity and this is like oh it's so important you don't want that note it's so important to upon occasion at least have conversations with really intelligent people so if you can make friends befriend some Geniuses if you can in something and upon occasion have conversations with them because it really it stops you dead in your tracks and really shows you how

unfortunately just how non-intelligent you are because and the reason I say this is look here bear with me the mind is the only organ if I can use that metaphorically which we can't compare so let's say now because everything else take a skill so let's say somebody's an artist and they're drawing and they can see somebody else drawing or see their

drawings and think wow that person can do so well man I'm so handicapped at this or somebody is a carpenter and they can see it damn you know I bloody hell I'm so pathetic at this or somebody let's say you look at yourself and you think oh my God I'm so out of shape look at that person oh they're so amazing look at look at the way their physique or somebody can do certain acrobats or they can do martial arts or they can do they can run so fast and you can see it and you can see yourself and see that you are not that

like you are so many notches below that now the mind is the one thing that you can't do that with you can't step outside of your mind and see how somebody else's mind works and think damn okay mine is so slow I'm like running on a software that hasn't been updated since the past five years so the mind is something you can't do that so what that does is it leads to a false perception that we think everybody is running more

or less at our speed but maybe they're just a bit better so when you have conversations with people who are really intelligent especially friendly conversations it really shows you that damn I I didn't understand anything what this person knows so much of what this person said I couldn't even compute it so it humbles you and then you feel oh wow I'll tell you a great person to befriend those of you is Dr um I love doing this by the way occasionally whenever I get a chance

with uh Professor faisalmir who's the head of quantum gravity research the center in Canada I mean when I have conversations with him honestly I just feel oh duh I feel I feel like oh I truly am so stupid and so it's it's like an infinite slap in the face of my pseudo-intelligence sometimes I may think oh I'm so intelligent and it's

it's like an Abrupt Awakening that you think bloody hell I can't even and when he'll explain things and he'll say look doesn't it make sense now and you'll see no no no it does not make any sense it does not make any sense at all I don't know he'll talk about quantum gravity and he'll talk about these different and he'll talk about them like it's so obvious like he'll be like he'll explain in a sentence and say yeah like now you get it you'll be like I don't get any of what you've just said ah and you've realized that I could

never be as intelligent as that never like I just cannot like that doesn't matter what I do I would never be that intelligent to understand that so it's a humbling experience but then you see if this is the world that is this complex why do you think the the essence of God is something that you would the essence I don't mean is there a God I mean the essence and how God operates why would you think that would be so

easy when when we'd become so you know dazzled at how software operates we can't under people who are not coding experts it doesn't mean anything they totally can't grasp it so yeah so my my thoughts are we need to let's remember this is our journey to God don't worry about how the world works it works Allah is allies in control how does that how does that reconcile

with free will then see one of the best ways to understand this is the Heisenberg's uncertainty principle that you can either you see when you look at it you can either measure speed like the last velocity speed velocity of something or the position with the utmost accuracy you can never measure both at any given time with the utmost accuracy you can estimate so it's like well if you're going to discuss this then this is it so if you're discussing God's perspective

God's in control discussing in some perspective then you're only discussing in science perspective and this free will and then you just set about in your worldly life now