Monday Nights with Mufti Abu Layth: Session 77

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get back whoa is what's happening to the weather folks what's happening to the whether it's God it's making us it's incredibly lethargic let me just mix my cocktail right here get that ready look at that with the ice that's what I'm talking about damn the weather here for the past few days we might as well be in the Middle East somewhere it's mmm just bringing up

some key questions that I also logged for today we will be taking a look at some interesting topics people some interesting topics obviously your questions that you that you that you're shouting out that goes without say but in addition to I want to also look at today the topic of apostasy in Islam an overview of this the a hadith that are involved and the inaccuracies of its teaching and debunking some of the myths

that surround that topic but we'll get to that a bit later on those of you just tuning in click like folks click share and almost silent BM a todos raha welcome to this session of Monday nights with Mufti su hermano mufti Abu layth yo ha ha your very own online movie people that's what it is so what's been going on what's been going on what are we some questions that have been coming through first of all I'll just while some people are tuning on

tuning in I'll just quickly sum up that I went we had a hangout hang out with multi Abu layth this last Friday gone so so that was somebody said what why why you call yourself why you call yourself Mufti huh because I is movie you know that's why man you know right so yeah so we had this hangout session basically it was an in essence an opportunity for

people to to just pop down meet and greet you know there's a lot of people Facebook fan right so my facebook kind of family so to speak social media people who I've got to know through social media who and this this kind of virtual life is is becoming more and more weirdly real in our day in age and sometimes we see people online so often we've never really met and people reach out sometimes saying that they'd like to pop down like to say hi like to so

that's what it was all about really and then I was overwhelmed with the the kind of people that I didn't actually I mean I expected I didn't expect people to kind of come down but from some of the distances from what class go and gotten you know down south and from Bradford and here and there I wasn't expecting that I'm gonna be honest and I you know nothing but absolute love and respect for all of you man absolute love and respect right so and we will do that

again repeatedly I actually took the time out to try to everybody that came try to kind of learn their names learn where they from ask you know what was it what's your name on social media just to try and have more of that real human eyes that bond really so well that was that so that was awesome I totally loved it right well what's going on people what's going on what else are we looking right those of you some people saying we'll have just

tuned in for the first time well shukran I know silent muchas gracias click like click share get it out there spread the love people spread the love I saw what is it Robin had shared a post saying well I'm sharing this and I'm gonna be losing friends those kind of friends will good riddance that's what I'll say

all some people are never short of friends right so when's the next Meetup we'll have one perhaps every two months or so something like that and you know it was an opportunity for just like I said we had free food get together chill out it lasted for several hours in fact what I call a vampire session - like - after 2:00 in the morning cool so right now risk let's take some of your questions people what's going on what's going on house and Zahid is

saying two months for the next one yeah because we've got Ramadan you know just round the corner literally and so after that cool roll - perhaps perhaps ously you marrying in Casablanca I don't I don't know who a sleaze yeah we do have lose friends by sharing but who cares those kind of friends you don't need in life people who surround you with negativity you ought to just say good riddance to them

right so is it Michele observe or a reliable narrator of hadith if not share absorb it depends what he is narrating okay many of the scholars this is a good question actually sometimes people speak about you know when I critique certain orators in hadith they say Oh does that mean you can never accept from them it doesn't mean that necessarily it depends what they are narrating and the context like I've mentioned look the way you look at

it is there's the simple principles the golden the golden tests people the three the Trinitarian test right so this is the the test but to qualify to meet this to be put against this standard what we have first of all is we look does the hadith meet the simple chain the test of validity of chain so is the is the chain authenticated to start off with once that's fine it enters the arena to be

put against the text of the three as long as it doesn't clash with reason lamu by Anil ma-kun one of your holy filmin fool it doesn't go against any established sources in Islam the Quran and the established Sunna voila you're not idle a soul and it doesn't uproot an established principle in Islam then it is acceptable so that's simple it's quite simple it's a principle that all of you can can kind of understand and there you go awry so I know certain

people why odd hanafis this is strict with food even cookies and tooth toothpaste can be Haram ously calorie is asking about his cousin is about to marry I'm not sure what that means marry a working girl in Casablanca is about that is people are asleep I'm sure everybody reading that is understanding something else so I think you might

wanna rephrase the question working she's working she's a busy person look if they want to get married who the hell is anybody to stop them huh let them get married goddamnit spread love not hate why are you being what they call kebab me hardy and kind of like trying to block them from getting married they want to get married let them get married her past hasn't got anything to do you know you can't judge

people for God's sake taking that I'm assuming that's what you mean by the question unless you mean something else then I think why on earth have you worded it like that alright so what are we looking at view on getting married on the 27th of fast well Allie I might be busy on that day I don't know if I can make it oh that wasn't to me I thought that was an offer I thought you were offering something live how about

marriage on the 27th fast I was gonna say I might be busy on that day so I don't know but if I don't catch up with you during the day we can always catch up once we open the fast all right so people somebody had asked about their cease and hanafis making life so difficult with cookies or toothpaste or things like this you see this comes down to you know you have all these numbers and these preservatives so they say oh you're not allowed to meet this preservative that preservative and

this e 1 2 4 and E 1 6 9 I don't know all these different preservatives they're Haram Allah listen the school of Medina is very clear right to prove something Haram you need overwhelming evidence yeah by default things are permissible as to these preservatives these preservatives are so the chemical composure has been so altered they state that they no longer carry whatever some

people say they're well they were from insects oh they were from these so they were from that first of all none of those things are Haram according to the school of Medina anyway people don't generally eat insects maybe in some parts of the world but that said it's not Haram to eat an insect not that you'd advise it either I mean it's not around to eat a stone or to eat soil but you wouldn't eat it so e47 one somebody has written they all of these things are absurd they are not Haram none of these numbers are Haram don't worry about it people you can eat

them okay or you can follow whatever I mean that's their choice this diversity I guess right so Aditya Mohan you know shukran shukran shukran Aditya ji calm calming yep absolutely that's fine listen the school of Medina only declares very few things Haram in terms of food everything in the sea is halal now and by the school of Modena I mean the city of the profit we after he after the profit the companions the successes

and their successes leading up to Imam Malik and his school this school declares all creatures of the sea to be halal including amphibians like crocodiles tortoises and stuff like if you nothing you have to eat them but they not Haram including predatory beasts like things like wolves lions tigers all of these things nothing is actually Haram like that although people generally don't eat lions and stuff like this but they're not Haram the only thing Haram is in the verse of the Quran Azadi of Buckaroo

from horribly the great legend Maliki scholar from Muslim Spain almost 900 years ago writes in the verse Allah o Jesu Muharram on Halawa a minute a muumuu when Allah says say I find nothing Haram for somebody who wishes to eat except and those few things lack milk in sea pork has been declared Haram dead animals so animals that have already been killed all those ma or HeLa be elevated leather those sacrificed animals that are sacrificed for pagan gods and things like that so these kind of things that say truly and it mentions

blood but that's because the the pagan ritual was to drink blood as a as a kind of ritualistic offering so these things were declared her arm other than that things are not actually Haram okay please explain how the angel Gabriel delivered revelation well I wasn't there to start off with secondly the hadith mentions that look nobody knows these things the hadith sometimes says the Prophet says I would hear like a ringing sometimes he says I would feel just immense play immense pressure and weight

that would kind of really weigh me down sometimes he says that he would see someone now when he saw someone who saw this figure so the angel jibreel Ali Salaam did that mean if other people could see the angel jibreel my general understanding is no they couldn't because then everybody would be having that experience so what was revelation how was it it was something the Prophet experienced you do not really experience that and that's okay and you don't need to totally fathom that that is your

element of faith okay hope that helps isn't Islam based on a miracle of what no miracles according to Muslim scholars are are those things that were done to prove upon demand as a challenge to prove the power of God for example no Muslim scholars none of the Muslim scholars grade revelation as a miracle in Islam that's not what they call a

martiza so although people might say the Quran has edges in terms of its expression and its ability but they don't say the Quran is a mirage ISA in that sense none of the Muslim scholars say that so you're probably misunderstanding whoever is asking that is misunderstanding what the scholars have said in my understanding when it comes to miracles Muslim scholars I think over the centuries that went by they they changed the kind of discourse so you have to

really view this from a from a discourse analysis perspective and miracles became about something else like they made rules and regulations and they needed to prove certain things and they started to say things which I suppose in the in a comprehensive manner no longer made absolute sense and so they and they I don't know why they felt the need to boast certain miracles the way they did but Muslims some Muslim scholars did do that and today we have and I suppose it works with the common folk very well

because it ties into a story and it's easy for people to have it's easy for the common folk to carry stories so let's take a good example of people will say the definition of a miracle is that which is to prove Allah smite and to prove the Prophet where the messenger was truthful however when you look at the Quran and you read the Quran that's not the nature of the kind of miracles

that you read so you often read that the miracles were either something that was like a test or it was something to save the prophets from the kind of danger that they were in so it wasn't actually so let's take the the parting of the sea for Moses now the parting of the sea for for Moses Ali Salam for moosa aleihsalaam is something that many bible experts have kind of explained what summer was a phenomenon that did used to

not often but would occur through nature so the way the tides would pull back they would create a pod a parting in the see now that coincided with the prophet Moses Ali Salaam being in a state of danger and his people being in a state of despair so it reaffirmed one could say the faith for them but it helped them escape the clutches of the Pharaoh so this is what now somebody would say well did that happen without any means whatsoever no well it did happen with means obviously it happened with means

that you know the tides pulled back that's a natural phenomenon one could argue about let's say no Hollis and I'm Noah and the Ark was Noah saved supernaturally like the flood let's say a flood came and Noah was risen into the air and he just floated around I leave salaam like that of course he didn't he was told construct an ark and he built an ark and the people that came with him and this flood by the way was only a local flood it wasn't something global like the way Christians and Jews sometimes go on about this and some Muslims naively follow them this is not true sister

local regional flood that's all it was and most not a lease and I was saved but our people know other people not saved through boats and things like this well they are as well so it's not the purpose here was to save that prophet but you see I think some scholars struggled with this because they then felt if you can explain it that means it could happen for other people as well now the I never negated that it couldn't happen for other people but I felt I think some of those theologians felt that no we have to make this exclusive and therefore

they wanted to almost pretend that there was no means like this just happened in theni in a vacuum but that's not true so you know not built his ark Moses our early Salam you know the the river party all of these things happen with some naturalistic means whether the people need them or not and some people had asked me about Sallah he was a prophet sent to

all right I'm not sure I'm just seeing that right now I wasn't seeing the comments but anybody is anybody trolling he's gonna get blocked right so Saleh Ali Salim was sent to thermal now in the Quranic mentions that he has a sign for them which is a particular she camel which is referred to as now cut Allah the she comin of God no way in the Quran does the she-camel of Salah mentioned that it had some miraculous birth no way in the Quran

there isn't a single mention of these these are all week fabricated narrations that have not come through the prophet of God they've come through certain people a penis Hawk transmits quite a few of them who Imam Malik referred to us at the jail right you've got people about to fail whether is a companion depends on your definition of companion of the Prophet but somebody who's definitely around in the time of the Companions rowdy a loved one home about to fail transmits from his saying he doesn't say the Prophet saying it where did he get this from it sounds like well

these are just some kind of like they're saying well all solid this camel a rock gave birth to a camel and this camel rocks play open a camel came out that camel then gave birth to another camel some narrations say Salah went out and there was this hump in the in the land and that was then giving birth to a camel and all these kind of nonsensical things no way in the Quran does he mention this tell anybody to bring me one one unquestionable hadith and I will show them this but yet most Muslims seem

to think that the she-camel of Salah somehow was born out of a rock yet the Quran says nothing about he doesn't seems there's no such thing in the Quran yet most Muslims this is in the Quran this is why I ask people Muslims reconnect with the Quran please reconnect with it learn what it actually says as opposed to some of these stories that people are spreading about the Quran even these movies they don't know sometimes a lot of the stuff there about the Quran they just thought

these stories they picked up since they were children and they're just passing them around and this thing of Yunus ELISA Lam is another example look Yunus ELISA Lam was swallowed by he says fault akumal go to what one Willem and hoot now scholars have spoken about this what kind is this possible from a natural perspective well they've spoken yes it is possible there are several kind of creatures within the sea including like the large whales the sperm whale or the whale shark these kind of animals that do not actually have teeth and they have

several chambers and the esophagus is actually very large and what they do is they process food by taking it into one chamber which first of all just kind of compresses the food then pushes it into another chamber to further digest and it takes a process now the Quran unlike the Bible which mentions that Jonah was in the whale's stomach for three days as Jesus for example acknowledges and that the Son of God will also write you know will also return after three days as Jonah did but

in the Quran is no mention of the period of time that Jonah were was swallowed Yunus aleihsalaam all it mentions is that he was swallowed and this naturally now you think well he was swallowed and then thrown out by this by this whale there's several accounts of animals for example you can google there's accounts of sailors recovering off for a few days they're dogs that have been swallowed by certain whales these other accounts which you can I mean now you can search these kind of things online one of the questions is well if you were taken in you would have been

compressed because the first the esophagus is quite wide and the first chamber they would have been a certain amount of oxygen that comes in but you would have been like pressed on not crushed entirely but almost depressed heavily this would result in you suffering immensely now what is the Quran say that that felt Akumal hoto that the wha-wha-wha lean and then whenever the who bill Allah that then this hoots that swallowed Yunus kind of

threw him out what was a team and he was immensely sick and ill as a consequence of this now how long did this process take place was it just an hour was it less than an hour was he more than an hour Allah doesn't mention these things but it's not impossible one thing if the Quran doesn't mention in any supernatural kind of way that he was a superhero Luke he was swallowed and then he fought the whale and jumped out it doesn't mention in fact it mentions when he was thrown out he was heavily sick

and and kind of like as a consequence of what had happened to him so these things are not or not you know aunty reason in that sense yes you one would say these events are highly unlikely and the Quran explains it as a very unlikely event that it would happen but not impossible so I hope that's all some help let's move on folks all right those of you just tuning in click like click share people and suffocation and look another good example is people who drowned

for example there's many people who are drowned but are resuscitated after hours I mean you can read reports of people having ground pull sides or other things and being recovered and resuscitated after or in certain waters after hours 15 hours 17 hours there's reports about these things so I'm just saying that when you look at these things take it into a whole copper context that's all I hope that's of some help and I don't know why you see one thing

we need to understand is why is Allah mentioning these things so you can take a lesson from it not to kind of oh this is to draw this kind of Allah I did these things in a vacuum we're now going to go against science because Allah has given us the manual to oppose science that's nonsense the laws never said any of these things okay people let's take a look what else are we looking at what else has been going on let's take some questions those of you just tuning in click like click

share Imran Han I Louis Island Alice island is that'll start sugar and for tuning in is Pharaoh mentioned a lot to recognize in today's time once against the Pharaoh is mentioned the whole purpose of stories is to take lessons morals to kind of do to be able to maybe identify with certain struggles in your own life or just just to take it some less some meaningful extraction from that story that's what it why they

mention start please explain the short beard Imam being makrooh to pray behind that's nonsense should be an imam to pray that's just Hannah fever hi Murphy v people is the fifth although it's attributed to Imam Abu Hanifa it seems to maybe only half at best go back to him unfortunately more often than not it goes back to his students imam muhammad ash a burny who perhaps you know but who became the whispies of the Hanafi mother some

people some Hanafy scholars have actually questioned how he managed to become the voice piece of the Hanafi method since he only really met him a mob of an ephah for at best three years and arguably some of argue never studied with imam abu hanifa that's an interesting thing although I would believe that maybe he did study with him but these few years that's all and he yeah out date he surpasses the other great Imams the students like Imam so far who studied perhaps so long with imam abu hanifa yet becomes shunned and I will Yousef all of a sudden becomes

the supreme judge and there's a lot of politics in the early Hanafy school but the point is and then Imam Abu Youssef and imam muhammad have a huge falling out they in fact I think even curse each other ants and things like this and and then this goes on and they really become more representative of what to do as opposed to the Imam himself one would say they then represent at least fifty to maybe even sixty seventy percent even maybe at least sixty percent of the entire mother and then really in later times even Abby Dean from about 200

years ago from Damascus Syria who really decides what to do in the hanafi madhhab so hanafis today especially from the indo-pak just follow him if he says this is what we do that's what they do if he says here we reject him amiable honey further than they reject Imam Abu Hanifa if he says here we embraced and they embrace but in malleable honey for himself was a legend you know rody Allah I think an amazing Imam who really are championed the voice of reason in his age unfortunately his school of thought became the antithesis

of him and today his school of thought represents more a kind of purity honest understanding as opposed to his understanding of muscle hard reason and the only thing they have to do with him really just the name Imam Abu Hanifah otherwise they very seldom do they reflect imam abu hanifa spirit seldom in fact if Imam Abu Hanifa was here today be condemned as a heretic by by his followers but not all of them some of them are doing great work

chef atomic does great work you know on reviving a lot of this the true spirit of the Hanafi school but right so in the Hanafi school they have this they really harsh on things like the beard obsessed with the beard obsessed with certain weird rulings like that like men must always cover their hair and wear hearts and these kind of strange things women can never cut their hair we can never pluck their I'm all these other kind of rulings they have but so they have this thing that any Hanif any person who

trims his beard below a fistful is a somebody who deserves the Hellfire according to them whether he gets it or not is up to Allah but they call him a fasiq somebody who deserves to be punished by the Hellfire and he can never be an imam or anything like this and that's just absurd that's absurd the Prophet never once told anybody how to grow the beard and that's silly you know just absolutely stupid having these kind of opinions like this and I those who did this out of a love for the Prophet that's different but they ought

to differentiate between their love and going overboard right so yeah absolutely somebody saying mom or Hanif is an absolute legend I love imam abu hanifa or the alarm to bits unfortunately his method has been betrayed over the centuries with all the kind of politics that took place and and it's interesting to see that but that's a study for another time but his school was called the school of Iraq School of Kufa in my Malik school was the school of Medina people are that's the school you want to subscribe

to right so anyway quick plug in the what else is going on people what else has been going on those of you just tuning in click like click share what is your opinion on miele the launch of that before on innovations in Islam right what are we looking at okay right people there was this I've been sent this article and I'd seen this in in some of the on social media from France France subhanAllah I'm really getting more and

more concerned sometimes with I mean it's not a laughing matter I guess you know France had made this kind of petition which was allegedly made by certain it was a it was commissioned as a petition signed by apparently three hundred intellectuals and certain ministers including the ex including Sarkozy himself the ex-president sorry Prime Minister of of France now this it

it was a a petition to Turkey maybe because they see Turkey as that kind of rising force to the Turkish Minister of the EU to say can certain verses of the Quran be removed in an updated version of the Quran and the Turkish Minister obviously slammed this the proposal rightly so and I'm just shocked people

like Sarkozy on this French petition and these so-called intellectuals that war on earth is wrong with you people seriously what on earth is wrong with with France I mean they are day by day they seem to be losing the plot look they said that old verses of the Quran are leading to extremism right I I want to ask I mean just those France not have a right wing problem does it not have a right wing problem does have

they call for a petition to ban the Bible the Old Testament have they called for a petition to ban for America to remove some of its amendments because even even though people would say yes but later amendments kind of amended part of the Constitution and and said yeah well that yeah but remove them because these verses of the Quran have also been abrogated but they're saying no but remove it but why is this request being made to Muslims exclusively and then they'll say well you know we don't have a problem with Islamophobia you

know France I don't know if you guys know this but obviously for many years they've had the headscarf ban but a few years ago they they passed a proposal to ban race from within France of race should not be recognized so everybody's French now this is one of those things that you know as said my little yellow hand said that Kelly Mata Hawking or either be held mortal that this is something which is good it's a kind word but really what the objectives are nothing but just sinister because yes you want to say look we're not going

to say anybody belongs to any race you rule French right that sounds awesome but at the face that's at the face of it but what's really happening now you can't collect data on ethnic minorities now ethnic all of a sudden racism doesn't exist all of a sudden in fact the independent from the UK I believe was in 2016 or 17 made a whole article highlighting this factor that now at mine our teas have become incredibly more vulnerable in France under this new race

ban rule because all of a sudden racism doesn't exist because race doesn't exist and you know so is this this is just another and you see the rise of this right-wing kind of this whole political agenda several things I mean time and time again well why if you look back at the history of France and the Enlightenment people like Rene Descartes okay the forefathers of the Enlightenment the thinkers people legends legends like heroes like voltage

honestly amazing people the fathers of the whole resistance and the kind of liberation movements like jean-jacques Rousseau legends right these people the whole thing that the the the revolt of the revolution of what was it 1789 these whole things what did they stand for to remove the monarchy to remove oppression to remove these things today they have become the very monster that those

legends fought against they have become the very abyss that those people stared into is this not true don't tell me I mean yes alarm Allah he's shocking that you know this what goes on so I read this I thought what is wrong with people I mean look by all means I'm not saying people do not misuse verses of the Quran they do I agree with you they do and we're going to look at some things today although that's not most of the Quran about apostasy but people do misuse religion but then they

misuse all religions are they writing - how many countries within the UK I'm sorry within the EU rest on Christian kind of like teachings and come on the amount of genocide the amount of brutality mentioned in in the Old Testament is is immeasurable yet there's no claim to burn that people would say yeah well you know we're not really people in committing any atrocities based on the says who America is a fine example the rock the rise of right-wing many of these things do bass

also you see Britain first in the UK banging on about Christian Christian origin so people do do that as well so I think this isn't this kind of singling out of Muslims is unfair and it just heightens the sensitivity look I'm not saying that they rank problems within the Muslim communities there are but there's problems in Hindu communities there's problems in Christian communities have problems in all so just to say Muslims should ban part of their book is not the way to to kind of address this issue but I thought I'd speak kind of highlight my thoughts on

that right so what else are we looking at people let's take some questions those of you just tuning in click like people click share' get this out there let's let's spread the love people spread the love right isn't Adam Ali Salaam having no parents and being created from clay earth amiracle please mention us in your daughter Carly Charlotte Khalid Sheikh Hakam Allah and

may Allah grant all of you ease our scholars today allowed to use photos from the past of course they are of course they are is saying bismillah before would do compulsory no it isn't there is a weak hadith the melanism allahu allahu allah it is in the most environmentally does not say bismillah has no voodoo it's a we Cadiz shockingly Imam Ahmed actually adopted it as his mother although he himself acknowledges the hadith is weak I'm not quite sure how that

happened but it did so besides imam ahmed saying that you must say none of the other scholars recognize that right so the question on adam ELISA Lam not having parents look there's a wide spectrum of beliefs within the Islamic tradition the truth is the Quran mentions that all life had a single source that's how much the Quran does mentioned so it says 1 min almighty wa ja alna mina kulla shay'in hey the allah says and we placed our not created

placed out of a single fruit this kind of source of water whatever is all life to come now that is a clear verse of the quran then we asked well how did life diversify well allah says well zero fill or the pond or okay for but alcoholic why don't you you want to know go walk out in the earth and search and discover that's a lot Elling you how to figure it out not me a lot now all we know is all life a plant a tree a flower a human a

fly anything a lion anything and everything is ultimately related we all have life connects us all we are part of nature so that is a fact based on the verse of the quran how we diversified well go figure some muslims follow the christians in saying one day there was nothing and then all of a sudden there was there was just one day there was nothing next day there were elephants one day there was nothing next day there were horses one

day this is absurd but some muslims followed that's part of the if we're going to be fair that's part of the discourse they followed this this thought some many muslim scholars like a anal chaser from a hundred over a hundred and almost 150 years ago people like Jamal Dean la Fulani Mohammad Abdu and other scholars of al-azhar in the time of Darwin said that look no we accept evolution did occur however we're going to say Adam was a miracle and that sounds good let's say from an Islamic viewpoint that's good

so it's huge amount of progress you've stepped away from this Christian doctrine and you've come to this point some scholars have gone on to say well maybe Adam was a bit of like a metaphor like there are many atoms and stuff like this and I don't personally climb inclined to that but some people have said that was also the understanding of Mohideen even arabe that's today people like who start shockeroo and other people have kind of gone towards that understanding some people have gone to the understanding that Adam ELISA Lam evolved so he was a new species and he evolved from other species

people like cher Abdul Rahman of the sabasha Hina in his book ABI add the mistletoe halika goes to that understanding I mean I'm not saying I'm going to it but I'm saying that this is all part of the Islamic discourse it's not really a big deal in that sense people can study they can make up their own mind they can go through things these people are based this on different bits of the Quran these people are based this on different ways of the Quran what I say is just don't there should be transparency don't hide things don't censor knowledge let people have access to knowledge and let them read and

decide this is those people for example who said I mean you can read up the scible shaheen's own book and other people that have gone with him to kind of justify and they used verses of the Quran to show things like there's a verse that Allah says that walaqad - al-insana that we have created in son from theme from this kind of play this whatever that is so much I'll now not fatten thicker re-machine then we placed him in a stable a drop of sperm in a stable

place now what's interesting is many early Mahfuz City and say this is talking about Adam so the question here was well if Adam was a drop of sperm where was he placed and then some of the like property highlights this difference of opinion and he said well some people say this is still Adam some people say maybe this part of the verse is in sign in general some people then said oh maybe he was placed in an artificial womb so Locke created like a womb and put him in that and some people like up the sub or Shannon said well why would they need to be an artificial womb if wounds already there so that's his argument but this is all part of the

discourse and let people just read learn and whatever they go with the main thing about prophets and and what they've is the lessons you learn from their lives okay so yes of course they had to be men when you say men other hominins did whether other hominid no but I mean people should not deny today or the hominins exists oh my gasps homo you know erectus homo heidelbergensis homo all of these other hominins did exist right so okay let's move on folks what is the job of a scholar today well

is to deal with the issues that we are faced with so many scholars are not doing a good job in the realm of the souls I you know this thing the realm of the souls I'm not really so sure what that means some Muslims believe that we were all kind of like spirits but the Muslims say that look Allah says you don't really understand what soul means or Roy means so I don't some Muslims believe that we were all kind of like the way we are now we were spirits in

some other world other Muslims are a bit skeptical on that because Allah says look you don't understand what the soul is maybe what that means is all souls have some connection in my understanding I'm kind of inclined to thinking that maybe the raw is consciousness that's what I'm inclined to I have no hundred percent kind of you know thing on that but that's what I'm inclined towards and that's in my understanding of what I feel people like in a roost were inclined to it okay so

do I feel Islam can be reformed to as rational it's not about being reformed octagon Islam is based on reason anybody who says that Islam is not based on reason they themselves have gone off and astray from the straight path not they should not put that blame on a lot and His Messenger they are unreasonable not Allah and His Messenger anybody who claims that Allah and His Messenger commanded us to do things which are unreasonable they mark my words have

betrayed Allah and His Messenger right so I have seriously I don't know why people spend so much energy trying to argue that Allah is unreasonable and then they say well why do people disbelieve of course they're gonna disbelieve because I stupid what you're pushing what did the hadith say had this an ascot Rahula him speak to people in that in that intellectual manner that's a hippo you cut the bowl of water so low would you like that unlike this messenger or or denied so this is so this is the the kind of thing so yeah so

what else is going down people all right sup all right I'm gonna come to this apostasy topic and take some questions I know there's been whoa I was just trying to get into some of the questions that have been right ok

sir look at that I'm trying to get on to some of the questions people have posted so I can just answer some of them quickly because I do want to keep you know the questions that people ask are very relevant what is the ruling on drinking balsamic vinegar if it's permissible vinegar is permissible .

okay it is permissible people permissible permitted what is the relationship between the amazed rulers and the scholars of the tavern such as evening huzzah Harry Anthony that's an interesting question even as she Hobbs or is an interesting personality when I've been critical of him I'm not trying to say he is useless or he's not reliable or things like this I'm not trying to say that and I think you'd be wrong to kind of portray me doing something about what if Michelle

abba-zaba did have certain interesting inclinations at times sometimes he's part of the Sunni discourse and seen as pro bono may year sometimes he's part of the Shia discourse and he's Rekha is mentioned in many Shia books as a Shia and he's actually one of the the sole transmitters who transmits many of the Pro she are kind of things into Sunni sources so that's interesting

most eSAB could you address an issue many religious or X religious people have spent their youth sacrificing their time and energy for Islam only for life to mess up at later stages whereas others have messed around in news and their lives have turned out to be fantastic some people say God has been unfair said hang in there brav inshallah look it is it is sad that look many people have done great things for Islam and they've they've they've had an incredible passion but as the commune he's kind of grown the Muslim

communities have gone off into certain directions and I wouldn't see that what I would say is don't go too hard on yourself the point is that focus on yourself keep a positive mindset stay positive do not it is true that a lot of Muslim kind of things have gone off into certain sectarian or other kind of efforts focus on yourself try not to surround yourself with negative people and it's not true that Allah has forsaken these people that is not true

always think well and positive right so salams I am from the Czech Republic I'm 16 and I have problems with waking up for puja right look what I would say is pray as you wake up okay as the hadith of the prophet of Allah that he said to the companion who came to him my believer soft Safwan even Mistah he said by the state Hutta for suddenly when you wake up then pray that's what I would

say what do you think right people there's been this a house on Water Street in brie field I'm not sure where that is I think there's been some house where in the UK where the people have claimed that the footprint of the prophet's shoe has emerged in this in the back garden and so people are flocking to it from all over the UK and I hear that people are prepared to buy out the house for ridiculous sums of

money and what's all of this about then people wonder why Muslims are a laughing stock right so I think that this is serious this is the kind of absurdity that we're dealing with seriously like they've got this kind of foot it's not a footprint but it's that kind of you know like the natural shape so they're saying that this is the footprint of the prophet's

shoe like this large come on people behave do you think that's disrespectful to the Prophet I mean seriously what is this Dean that you know what ridiculous and then how can you seriously mock or look at religions like Hinduism with any kind of her look they're worshipping statues or huh they're doing this what are you doing what on earth is this this is no sign the only sign that that is is that you are immersed in jahiliya

that's the only sign that you guys seriously are so immersed in jahiliyya the Prophet left is something amazing the Prophet said I'm leaving you something so wonderful that it's as brightest day and guess what it wasn't his shoe footprint he didn't say hey guys I'm gonna leave you my shoe or shoe print he said I'm gonna leave you this magnificent beam okay hold on to this beam well toss a moba huble Allah not hey people time to time you'll get a

shoe print that will appear in different parts of the world you know that I let somebody said they were prepared to pay a million for that house I'm tempted to go out and kind of paint spray paint just to get the property values to kind of like quadruple to think well seriously that's people with more money than sense

ah gotta love him huh this is like these are the kind of people that are coated tomorrow and his he said God in there so it must be true there must be a God you know and tomorrow you cut it and is like a crucifix in me so it must be one day you switch on the TV and it accidentally switches on to like the Hindu Channel is

it a sign oh god man how you know this this these are the kind of things that make us think yes Salaam sometimes you think well why did the Muslims you know couldn't we just be more in quality rather than quantity anyway people let's move on let's move on what are we looking at all right what's going on what's going on

all right so those of you just tuning in animal sounding people if you click like if you click share get this out there right people I've had some right I've got to do some hater alerts it's that time of the day well that time of the week people well hopefully I think it's worth a little I've had a few people send me certain things and really asked me will you please shed some light on this so okay so this me some haters nothing new there's this guy oh my god

he is begging he has been begging for attention this guy's been begging seriously like please please mention me so like oh my god right so you know what and he's been at it for literally I think now a few years like about two years but more so in the last few months really going on and the shocking thing is he's become the voice piece for all these movies who hate me so these movies are reaching out to this guy and promoting his page and promoting this

guy and not his pages in he doesn't have a following or anything he's just a regular guy so go on then so she hub Siddiqui this is for you this guy is so obsessed oh my god he's so obsessed with me man I mean it's crazy it's freaky you know like his every single post is to do with me and he right right so this guy he's been like writing about me all the time and

and basically he is somebody I think for maybe about two years or something I'd come across on and off on social media first he was normal but he had this weird hatred against share a topic and he should really hate him and you know you get people with that suffer from this narcissistic disorder so this guy once commented on my page about something and try to present a theory about something to do with a con remember now I think Charlie a lotta

Jaluit and something and I didn't really think much obvi and he got really offended that why didn't I pay so much attention to him so since then he's become like an ardent hater of mine first he he believed I was somehow teaming up with chef at a beg to deconstruct the hanafi madhhab and recently these other movies have been giving him a bit of attention so he did this Facebook whole thing about me so this is the kind of thing so check this out people now

this is

hard man you know I'm that ready man you see that says it all you see you just have to see those micro expressions the whole emotional awareness women all of a sudden did you guys notice that kind of smile burst open as he describes me and my body you know what is this one this one I think

swinging this way what was he a proud member Barker Tommy Adam evil are disappear that's one of those old songs that this sin I committed time and time again I am a man and I I suppose the literal wording is that I love men but this so this guy look at the language so will you give your daughter to this son of a happy what is this guy all about seriously and

the shocking thing is he's being shared by these movies and they collaborating with him this is the kind of person they're pushing openly swearing openly kind of making posts with Swiss with this kind of thing oh and don't you just love you know the you know this when people have that accent and they try to mask it with a with that Americanized twang you know right I just

kind of uh you know these men get letters so this guy he's apparently some guy he grew up in Pakistan and he went to I think Canada and he's obsessed with me man obsessed you know this there's a word for these people they call him usually pendants [Laughter] but my point is look and then he goes on and and I saw this now he's obviously blocked and I saw a lot of people just saying whoa you just trying to imitate this guy like he spiked is he he's

trying to grow a goatee all of a sudden I know the and then he says he goes on to say you know this so much these people you know they these people this is to do with the athlete that you know the Act ADA ride the ADA and he says the song with Jade Sahaba did you know J it means like good like so this some good companions you're transmitted this good this this one good this one but so good this one good je he thinks this is some kind of nursery or primary school that they a

JEA didn't yeah you did say go some of these companion changed Sahaba ticket Sahaba have transmitted about Jesus coming back and how big is and another thing is he keeps referred Madame it doesn't say mom he says Mahlum the only mom right the malum and malam so we say some of these jagged Sahaba have transmitted this like Abdullah like neuroma Robbie loved one and Omer

a job that's too fabricated hadith right there she have G monitors on a cha Abdul live neuroma and I'm already a loved one why don't you go get the hadith for me go on yeah because you know this is a typical mistake just because Maulana a charlatan Lisa made a mistake because the hadith is from abdul IBN amer not from Abdul like Nuremberg and so every time we saw got it wrong in his book so

these guys are abnormal and then Omer ja ja ja Leakey aha I've got a feeling these two hadith I'm gonna come you know they can take Anika marry Karen are you angry many current Arjun I hate these two heavy they'll accompany from Abdul live no more and from Omar oh do I know so these two go and bring me these heavy yeah ma yeah just Simran jaha Julia please it McGee bring her back

go to your movies get me these two hadith that you're talking about and let me tell you something yeah I'm gonna get this I'll she have G let me tell you right just because by having added all trying to spike your hair like mine and trying to sit there you're making the one simple mistake you know the mistake you see the difference is I just make this look easy just because you sit there don't mean you got the knowledge you know so you need to first of all study these things

you've got know what imam mata he goes in the he says imam APPA hotel is imam WAPA imam malik he means mata is the book of imam ali imam wat PHA and this is the kind of stuff being pushed okay so ridiculous ridiculous but what kind of shocked me was that movies were actually supporting him so I thought this guy was so begging for my attention and it's a shame really that somebody has lacked so much attention in life that the only place he gets that

attention is from certain movies and his his disorder goes into overload and then he's anyway right so there you go I'll let you come back with those two hotties for me all right my current origin so the one from Omer and of the live Noma yeah well that would be a lifetime hopefully you'll bring it before the return on the a Sally Stallone right so that's that and then some people had asked me that this guy keeps going on

about this knife Mulvey knife so they asked me look will you comment on this issue and speak about this such a lot okay what the hell now people you have to understand this guy basically people like this hater and some other people keep sharing this thing about some guy called knives saying I'm a really good friend of muftii now they all want to be my really good friends and he's like I know him so well right I'm gonna expose him a job

tell ya right so basically people have said who is this guy so okay so very briefly this movie knife is somebody I knew about 1617 years ago I've never met him since about 16 years I mean for God's sake right in I think the year 2001 or 2002 in those years he came to our madrasah for one year one and a half year or something I knew him that's all so I mean I when I went off to study I went off in the 90s in the towards the

mid I mean I began like 97 went of the study studied in Damascus in Syria in the UK first then in Islamabad I stayed in Peter I'm Charles madrasa then I went to be Nuria study they then towards not my final years but as I was one two years into it this this person came one year ring to I think after on my second year this guy called knife came now multi knife he came there for about a year I think under two years I probably knew him about a year and a half he did not live with us he was not in my kind of dormitory he was not he did not study with me wasn't in my class

but I suppose you could say yeah a friend I mean from that period yes when I say friend that's from me see I've got like an open heart if somebody's gonna be friendly with me I'm you see this is where I will be friendly with them how I will think of them like that what does for I'll say that don't thought that aloof Kobe who lose so much they hope for us that you consider that for us you even take this artificiality to be sincerity dost nahi what are her heart Milan Eve Allah

Laster you see not everybody who shakes your hand is a friend so I suppose that's also nevertheless so this guy he came had some and this guy you see what it is this we used to kind of I'm not saying this in a bad way but just kind of being this guy used to get had a lot of insecurities he used to get really kind of picked on had a tough time a lot of kind of background issues family lot of thing had been bullied a victim of a lot of kind of that kind of bullying mentality which I condemned by the way used to be picked on and was incredibly

and also he was somebody incredibly and the reason I say this is just to give you that picture of the mentality very skinny ultra very very skinny and the reason why I say that so you can understand the mentality when you're in a foreign country a bit we can you know people kind of bullied you even some of the teachers would pick on him and even bachata even changed his name when he was there he wouldn't use his I think his full name is knife Patel he used to use the name knife a bust because I think he was scared that he's in Pakistan and he's an Indian so he'd be so this is the kind of mentality and so nevertheless I kind of

used to chat with him time to time have debates and stuff like and the guy's comprehension in Arabic at that time check this out let me give you an example at that time this guy once came to me and he was speaking he saw that I take a liking to even handsome great scholar from Muslim Spain and one of the best friends of the Maliki Legend did not depart from almost a thousand years ago so he told me her you know even a husband scholars used to dis him and he said that happy this Tim now happy that that happy those of you know that happy he's a great scholar ok much after

centuries off Dave Nasim but he's one of even the husband's greatest fans so this doesn't make any sense so I said to him don't be silly that that he would never dis he goes you you on a bet you wanna bet watch come and he brings this book and is it's got that he'll be writing about even hasn't and he says it has them whatever blah blah blah wah wah much to him and he's a great scholar which they so I said but that's saying he's a great scholar much Dave means a great scholar in Islam who's capable of independent reasoning and rulings he goes so this guy said to

me no that means what whoever said whoever said he's saying like what in him he's a scholar I said yeah were you there when he was saying it with that intonation so this is to give you the kind of mentality in this guy used to get sometimes like I said he had a bit of that reactionary thing back then used to get into a lot of arguments with me even then I remember once as an example there was this a few of us there and he came in

and he started he came into our room and he started arguing this is just to give you a bit of a kind of getting to the mindset of some of these people this guy came into our room and started arguing about meth hubs and dissing and there was this other American guy there was ham bunny and I was there some other British lads and he starts mocking the other meth labs and that guy and we start cracking some jokes about the Hanafi method and this guy gets so much in a race that he turns to this guy this humbly and he like he wants to punch him he's like oh but obviously this guy is very you know like a skinny guy he's not

gonna so that guys kind of cracking up laughing like going and and then he stops and he looks at me and I thought well you're not gonna even try that with me son so he just gets really angry and take this out there was a mini table with all these hadith books on there like Sahil Bihari side muslim hadith of the Prophet and he just kicks them right off the bloody thing and and then he storms out kicks the hadith of the Prophet storms out and then for I think a month would wouldn't speak to us or anything this is to give you the kind of mentality of

this person and I remember once Mufti Caribe actually was in America now was once laughing over the fact that once I went to the toilet so we're in the I'm in the toilet they I mean the you know with the common shade like so you've got common toilets right so communal so for anybody the kind of toilets in the mother's I'm in the toilet I mean the actual toilet right and there's like a set of toilets so he's come into the toilets bringing his books and he's standing outside reading them and trying to argue with me outside like he's in the toilets outside the door and they

said that scholar came and he said yeah the toilet man the hell's wrong with you so this is the guy that they going on about some guy some movie knife I accept right like I've not met this guy for about 16 years now and we left he left motherís I was still there for many years after he left and and then on and off maybe he made some contact now a few years ago this movie knife a bus as we used to known there no mori knife Patel came to the UK

now there was look I accept sometimes my sense of humor gets you know it's not really I accept it has some drawbacks to it and some shortcomings so this guy came to the UK and you and I think he's got he's got a sister that lives here and he's with us but he was traveling past Birmingham so he reached out to me and said look I'm in a car and I'm passing boom I'm gonna be passing Birmingham in the next 20 minutes so I said to him look can you get off and we will kind of take you wherever you need

to go after would stay with us don't worry and this and that but the point the reason I'm mentioning this is because he said wait let me ask my sister and and he said well she doesn't give me permission and then I said look how about we'll come to wherever you are and we'll collect you and he said well she doesn't give me permission so she said no so I kind of burst out laughing because you see you don't say that to people like us because come on you're like a 30-plus year old man you don't need to take permission from your sister or your why fine and because he had a history of being like very kind of

intimidated all the time and stuff like these so I suppose I shouldn't have lost and I get that but I kind of cracked up and I said to him no come on man be a man so this guy took incredible offense to do this and look I apologize I apologize for things like this right look sometimes you know you say things in the moment you know you react and you do think he's sometimes you say things and my sense of humor has got me into trouble on malarkey but he's then this guy has had this issue this burning issue to kind of like get me back and and he has this kind of

like hidden think so he's said I'm going to now Hibiki was added to a madrasah alumni what's up group and on the group I had some discussions so and then I got fed up of this guy on there and I left a little while back but his way of getting me back is I'm gonna share your private discussions from this group which by all means share them but I mean that goes to show like is this what the movies have got to and the shocking thing is this like Maulana chef Norman big who's one of the administrators of that group

actually told him off and said look I don't want any because this is a the scholars in this group and we discuss things so anything on this group you should just leave it and he said no because Islam God wants me to expose this heretic and deviant so I'm gonna expose him and share his things I'd look so for example on they want some of you might remember a few months ago share Hamza bull had kind of gone for me on in public on Twitter and I have this thing that if anybody goes for me in public then I can criticize them in public like why so I kind of refuted him and made a

video so on this group they shared that and we had a discussion and I kind of cracked a joke about share Hamza McCool so he then said oh well I'm gonna expose this now like you know you cracked a joke about his turban and stuff like this but seriously is this the level of kind of scholarship that I'm people that oh you know let me try and stir a bit of trouble in the public domain that oh you said this here and people have done this there and but that's just silly like my point is fine do it I actually reached out myself to

share Hamza mothball in in a message which I shared on Twitter and said to him look I apologize for my joke about the turban and it was just something I said in humor but I apologize I said publicly right look sometimes you called me you implied that I was a kaffir and sometimes as human beings we react and that happens but what you don't need is somebody to come and try and stir trouble and you know like Imam Malik once said somebody tried to come to Imam Ali can say something like this and in my Malik said couldn't the Shaitaan find anybody other than you to bring this news to me that so-and-so is talking about you know this is why

the hadith said like halogen and man people who kind of do this these things will never enter Jannah man Mima and the worst kind is these kind of people who say well I'm doing it because God has told me God wants me to do this so you know and then we had this discussion on that group once about the Quran and I don't even want to have this discussion but there's a hadith about the Quran is revealed on seven letters and nobody really fully understands what the Hadees means and I was basically saying that look I don't think the scholars have answered these these

questions in in it's totally in their totality and some of them are saying what do you mean and I said well I don't think they've answered it properly but then I was saying look I don't know this is a discussion for another day but I'm only saying it because somebody said I think we've answered all questions raised by non-muslims I said I don't think we have yet I think we're still working on them so and I said that look I think this is not a discussion for the public it's not a discussion for this scholars need to work on better responses so he goes and tries to share this in public to say oh look Mufti is doubting certain

Muslim responses about the whole just to kind of create doubt in the heart of Muslims about the Quran I mean how low can you fall that why would you do that why are you trying to make Muslims doubt the Quran like I don't understand I mean if you if you want an academic discussion by all means you can do that so that's a so anyway I thought I'd share some of this backdrop because I've been asked about my thoughts on Mulvey knife patel or bus and that's what it is basically so he's just somebody who unfortunately

seems to be a bit upset and seriously has some kind of but he's had he's been struggling for a little while with certain kind of psychological issues and because of the whole backdrop and issues and and for that I make dua and may Allah kind of help him with that help anybody that struggles with kind of mental health issues and stuff like this but this that scholars are jumping on the bandwagon and trying to let you know for the sake of God get a life people get a life so I thought I'd respond to that nevertheless right let's move on

folks let's move on let's take a few one two quick questions hello sir is McDonald's burger haram answer please well it depends some McDonald's are allowed in certain countries by somebody saying about the April aeroplane yeah because I I don't live too far from an April that's true so there's a lot of and I've got the window open that's why is the earth really flat no it isn't risk definition I mean this is your provision from Allah I do not believe that your risk goes up and down based on sins that's not true

but one could argue the quality you know of life may be impaired based on the kind of life you live but your provisions don't go up and down we don't believe in karma but that said we should all endeavor to inshallah live a the best in the best possible way we can what means land not earth is in the planet Earth okay sure I'm not sure what that means right okay let's does the Quran say the

earth is egg-shaped the Quran doesn't really touch up on these things he doesn't say anything it just leaves us to our own kind of devices is the looking of a photo no idea what that question is right okay let's shall we move on to this question about apostasy folks uh uh what is your favorites of see there's a quick question right what is the opinion of even Azzam

of the each amount of the people of madinah even a husband didn't really like the Maliki method too much but I think that was more circumstantial circumstances because it's circumstantial because he was surrounded mainly by my lackeys who were his adversaries and therefore sometimes it's not that you don't like something but you are forced to hate it because the people around you is your shirt from Armani all right did the humble ease attack Buhari actually the Hanafy is

pretty much attacked him and other people the hanafis kind of band in amber hardy from his home town and remember Hardy can really struggled in his life time there was a lot of conspiracies against him right so what are we looking all right right apostasy folks apostasy those of you just tuning in click like click share get this out there I want to discuss apostasy in Islam somebody abandoning the faith right

leaving the faith of Islam what is the ruling of this and what does alive to say about it what does his messenger have to say about it and what the scholars what do we say about it today okay so first of all I want to clarify the rulings okay Islam gives freedom of faith okay gives freedom of faith those who believe and those who disbelieve choose to do so Islam in fact discourages any faith just

built on copying people Islam condemns any coercion of faith there is no way clearly nowhere in the Quran right and I will highlight neither in the Sunna establish Sunnah that an apostate must be killed that is not true an apostate is not killed in Islam okay we need to clarify these rulings right so okay now I'm going to now some of you may say whoa you know but what about all

this all these hadith that we hear and all these Muslims saying that we need to kill the apostates and so what do we have to say about that that is true people do say things like this and these are parts of the misunderstanding of Islam that we've got today okay so let's begin first of all with the Quran okay so and then what I'm going to do is I'm going to come back I will take a look at the hadith I will take a look at some of the understandings and kind of discuss see open it up but let's take a look at the

clear verses of the Quran Allah clearly says in the Quran la agraja 15 la illaha 15 there is no compulsion regarding the theme okay there is no compulsion in another verse Allah says mature after Luqman muncha affiliate for whosoever wishes to believe let him believe whosoever wishes to disbelieve let them disbelieve in another verse of the quran in surah younus allah mentions i believe it's verse 99 the

Volusia arabica ledger alanis ledger alamin fill all the cool new home Volusia Arabic Allah a man a man fill or the : Jamie on that if your Lord had wanted he is telling the Prophet if your Lord had wanted everybody on the earth cool on Jamie and would have believed alpha enter to crayon nasi Hetalia Cuomo meaning a Fanta took realness will you will you force people to become

believers Allah is telling the proper will use those people meaning no it is a choice this is a clear verse of the Quran the Quran takes absolute precedence so there are several verses like this in the Quran verses like poly al-kafirun Nabu - my tattoo and then it finishes you do not worship what I worship I worship on that we have our own way slackened eno-kun Walia Dean you have you Dean I have my Dean right so

this here wise are not saying the wait a minute kill them close not saying that what is even our shul scientists have seen and this verse the this verse la Ruffa Dean abrogated the other verse the portal that Jana be the fight against the coup for and these people Waterloo Ali he says in east of seal even our short degree Maliki legend and cheerful Islam of the last century that this abrogated

because Islam first of all the fighting is legislated as a defense and then there were cases where Muslims had to they had to preemptively go out to places because they knew there may be an oncoming attack but once matters was slightly stable for Islam to have some security that from now on in the world Islam would could could go wherever it wanted to go these things any such measures were abrogated and it mentions like gravity okay so this is from the the clear verses of the Quran okay the

other verses we know in from the Quran is where Allah is speaking about taking a life Mottola whosoever kills for animal cattle and nasa jamie rahn whoever takes a single soul is as though he has killed everybody woman I hear her and whosoever brings one life saves one life it is as though he has saved mankind so these things we understand that the sanctity of life is cotton it is cut I ok the sanctity of life is conclusive in fact

imam shot to be clearly writes in his morphic art and other people right that islam came and all religions came for the preservation of these five matters and beginning with enough save the nafs okay saving life that this was conclusive the haram martyrs would even be made halal to preserve life and and and the freedom of religion had been for anybody and everybody not just for Muslims okay unnecessary people to have

progeny and offspring a local reason promote reason and wealth surprisingly to me this is what religion actually came for these this is known as Maha siddhis Sharia so when people speak these are the methoxy so just to kind of I wanted to kind of just open that up now yes people will say that they were rulings in Islam but would you not say there are certain rulings in Islam that scholars had taken

based on certain hadith now I will come to some hadith and show how they are massively problematic but there are other hadith and teachings now yes we've got to understand something in the past in the past so great scholars today by the way people like chef abdullah bin bailey a great Maliki scholar one of the teachers of share Hamza Yusuf in his Seattle Fatah WA in his machine head in his other articles as well in in his conference there was a conference which

is which is available online as well or the transcript to it he discussed in depth these kind of situations saying that look in the past yes it is true the certain many scholars did go with certain rulings but you've got to look in they day and age what were they looking at there was two things to understand here certain skulls first of all they when they spoke about any kind of ruling they were speaking of what would today we looked at as treason in the past because in the past the world was a different place so they said

anybody who committed an act of betrayal to the community and and unharmed that he was other ah-hoo that he made it up he kind of made apparent what many of them say be safe he raised his sword and rebelled and created a rebellion and may have been part of state secrets or what would today be seen as espionage and treason that yes in the past they may have ruled they did rule many scholars that that could have had capital punishment any of these rulings today clearly do not apply many

of these scholars have said today cher Abdullah bin Bayer whether it's been chef shall tooth share Ramadan or booty all these all Imam clearly of this day and age have highlighted that does not apply at all but many centuries ago yes many scholars may have looked at the world because the world was a very different place in the medieval times so they may have ruled like that okay what they rule was may have but but the whole world was doing it then you've got to understand something why didn't Muslims object to this widen some Muslims gonna say wait wait a

minute we want to object because I suppose maybe they didn't I know this is gonna sound weird but maybe they saw it as is this really a battle worth fighting because in the past the worlds were incredibly segregated right they were incredibly segregated there wasn't this kind of cosmopolitan worlds that we see today this kind of migration didn't happen on this scale that we have today so people in the past you know mainly these were let's say Christian countries these were mainly old Muslim countries you may have had some tiny kind of migrants here and there but that's how the worlds were and nobody had a problem

in oh this person is a traitor this person is this execute them the Christians have no problem doing it anybody you know in in all these dynasties of the past and Muslims I suppose from that perspective were no different and the scholars didn't really see this as much of an issue does that make it in that sense does that make it accurate no it doesn't okay so that's just to highlight okay another interesting thing now let's go to the

son now okay the prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam spent an entire lifetime okay the Prophet Muhammad SAW spent an entire lifetime doing Dawa preaching teaching the people when people argue that apostasy deserves to be killed the question here is why does it deserve to be killed why sorry why does the person deserve to be killed why and they would say well because he's disbelieved and you say well that's interesting because that would mean them disbelief deserves to be

killed that anybody that Co far deserved to be killed because they also disbelieve does it not does that logic not follow so by that logic you would argue that all Co far deserve to be killed because what is the reason that you say that the ill our we call a no solution I also refer the allure of the hukum what is what is it resting on so if you're saying well its resting on disbelief then disbelief also is found amongst so far did the Prophet just two

people for being go far never never ever in fact a greater did the Prophet kill the hypocrites in his time Abdul a no B was a known hypocrite he he used to plot against the Prophet did the Prophet have him executed never had him executed never even did that in fact even when to pray his Genessa when he died the Prophet spent his entire life with people certain people who are not Muslim right up until his death there was the Jewish people they that he was

trading with even when he died the hadith inside Muslim he had loaned a certain amount taken the certain certain bags of wheat and left his shield as a kind of deposit now is this he could have said oh my god that's a kaffir kill him and take the you know he's well from the Prophet never did that so this is antithetical to the message that that were of the messenger of allah sallallahu alayhi wasallam and against the verse of the quran wa ma arsalnaka illa rahmatan lil al-amin we have not sent you except as a mercy

for mankind another hadith by the way these people use hadith of let's say the Dajjal now they say there was a Jewish person now even though I would have problems with that hadith but let's since all these people accept them that would make these claims let's okay there's a hadith of softness again who was a Jewish person that the Prophet went to him and said to him do you accept that I'm The Messenger of Allah that there is no God and I'm and he said yes so now technically he's become a Muslim and then he said to the Prophet

now do you accept I'm the messenger of God and the Prophet said like what in that hadeeth what is that supposed to even mean so according to that hadith which most of these people accept that person became an apostate did the Prophet instruct for him to be executed never I mean not that I accept this narration as mean that the jail but still these people do the the companion Abdullah ibn ABI Sarah who was the relative of earth man that had betrayed and committed treason and left Islam yet

when he went to Makkah and they caught him and he was worthy of that kind of punishment for the kind of damage he'd caused and how he had compromised the lives of many Muslims yet Osman came and said to the Prophet will you let him you know this person is relative and he's changed and he's you know he's made amends and the Prophet let him be if that was a hug that you had to establish how could the Prophet let him be right so this somebody saying what a mess in you in you in your narratives in dealing with mortar there is not no mess let's

take a look at some of these Adi and this is why by the way this is why the narrations that come from Omar rhodiola Wan that come from these people say that a person that was a mortar you would give them the chance you would give them the chance to why would you give them a chance if this was a head from Allah why would you give them that chance look this for example you've got this is Iman show Kimmy brings in his nail alot arm and he mentions after bringing

several of these narrations and he mentions about the Jewish people that would openly attack that would say things against the Prophet like may death be upon you and Mock the Prophet and do this and do that yet the Prophet didn't call for their death he did not do that and he says what about people who curse the Prophet does that not and he goes into this discussion and he says look what lathy he mentions that yellow that this was limited to leave that islam teaches us for the welfare to

bring people to this theme and then he says he goes on to favoring that interpretation and he has this whole discussion on the patron morta bringing all of these re whyatt and he brings her and he goes on to say by the way that this many of the scholars and this is what omar apna hot barbara the allahu unroot he says there was a narration that he heard that one of the Companions said I did this with somebody who openly went against Islam and after having embraced it and almost

said I would never have done that I would have maybe held him restrained him from what he did and asked him and tried to bring him back and in certain rewired he says a burden and in some they tried to say Thalassa 2:00 a.m. for three days but that's declared week right and he brings and he quotes a mailer all power that that was also the understanding of ibraheem and aha but wait this is abuja ferrata ha we a great scholar of the Hanafi method who brings in his muscular Arthur right in under the section - nine -

he says that the problematic narrations about apostasy right he says watered or Anil Islam Health Canada Lika aku bottom in who l'homme Lima Hara bottom be my hakuna or Coubertin al-muharib in literally camerton canoe or amorta de alerta' dadima animality for aloha he says was that those people who were punished was it because of their disbelief or was it because of the actions they committed was it because of the actions and he

brings the verses he says that images are Lavina you Hari boon allaha wa rasuluh that the reward of reward all what are the punishment for those who openly had declared war against Allah and His Messenger and fought him well yes una fil ardi for certain and they had spread tyranny through the earth was that they would have had that punishment and he goes on and he brings the different narrations and he brings several of these rewired bursts time and time again and then he says Carla Abu

Jafar Abu Jafar Panahi says for whatever Botanica st maluma feeha deal ayah Allah a maniac unum in Mojave el Maharaja was Salma kulfi ha la yo milky Emma okay he says this we establish that this we will use these verses to show that this was actually to do with them fighting against Islam an opposing Islam and then he brings transmissions from I shadowed allahu allah about those people who you can who they could have been punished in the past with capital punishment that he says Oh Raja Raja mohareb and alayhi wa

rasuluh okay or anybody who went out declaring war physical war against the messenger of God and then he brings another narration from Asia or Raja Raja Juvenal Islam a person who'd abandoned the faith for you horrible la Warr a Sulha a surgeon and then he set out and muhabba is physical it's physical Warface that he would have gone out and declared actual warfare and then he brings all of these narrations going on to declare and this is the Hanafi ruling by the way

so the hanafis had clearly mentioned the hanafi madhhab said that i'm mortared even though in the past they gave a punishment for a mortal because they saw them as part of this insurgency this part of this rebellion against the muslim state of the past that's why they said the female apostate would not be harmed she would not have been she was not eligible to this for the same punishment why why not the female why not the female apostate then was she not an equal apostate but she was but they

said because she the women were not part they were not maja riba and he mentioned this safe people who would raise this sword against islam and this is what imam Selassie writes in his mob suit this is what I've no come come Aladeen Ibrahim on right this work asani even even a hobby Deen from the Hanafi method they make that distinction ok so this is just some of the things this is even our shoot in hizmet acid he writes and from the freedoms that Islam

gives from the freedoms that Islam gives for holy actually attack all that and freedoms of belief SSL Islam be Impala tapa that's a morality Akira now this is he goes on say Islam dislike certain things but it gives the freedoms for people to believe them and he goes on to finish by saying wah Lola and I mean Nadia earlier today a pod my kinda acabas in death Olivia several Co for well you Theron Amman Hyrum bulletin feel Toma idler Allah who fee

he says if Islam hadn't done that then why do we accept the Toba of a person who openly had declared Islam and apostate it or o it was a hidden cafe from within and later on rebelled openly he says why would you accept his Toba he would only accept it because Islam gives these freedoms ok let's take a look at someone but people would say yes but there's a hadith you see those of you just tuning in if you can click like click share now people will say ah but

Mufti there's a hadith in Bihari now let me tell you there are famously you're right there are famously some narrations ok mainly the narrations are three by extension form okay the narrations go back to in they go back to even a bus or of the along on the the popular narration goes back to even our bus it goes back to Abu Hurairah anis around a long one arguably and hansel Islamic

these four are the these are the narrations the main popular narrations are really to the ones of and the absolute popular one is from even our bus Rotomahana and I'm gonna discuss that and then Abu Hurairah okay so let me write no when you say Islam gives time I'm gonna come to that to demonstrate when you say Islam gives time what could have they been speaking about could have they been speaking about to return to the faith as in to

believe again that's nonsensical the other angle is they were they were speaking about acceptably to have submitted to the piece and to withdraw from this rebellion that makes more sense now that would make sense to kind of withdraw from any insurgency the other thing is if some scholars did say this if some scholars I'm not denying that some scholars may have said that that oh we're going to execute them or they have to embrace Islam in these days but they got it wrong if they said that they were wrong clearly clearly and categorically

and the truth is that yes they too were a product of their environment in a day and age the whole world was doing things like this it was no different in Christianity they're the same thing in Christendom they're the same thing in most in the Muslim world they saw us no different so some scholars did have quite a ruthless mentality sometimes because the the day and age had very little value sometimes for human life and people of religion often justify things by religion but that doesn't make it right so hence you had some I've quoted in the past some Maliki scholars who said well

all so-and-so has said this and somebody said well he's an apostate or he's like this you should kill him and other scholars in most in Muslim Spain said no you can't do that you know you need to defend things and that one scholar said kill him and he's his blood is on me and I will answer on the day of judgment that is absurd but that was the mentality of unfortunately of some people okay so let me just come to two to these narrations because a lot of people mention these narrations I want to go through the popular one first this hadith ma'am but della Dina who Alou who this hadith is transmitted in

in a mambo Hadees book is transmitted in Mussoorie inhibin Imagi intimately in abu dawood and muslim department basically most of the major books of hadith except Sahih Muslim for this narration this narration is very interesting okay whosoever changed his Deen then kill him this is what the narrations right first of all this narration apart from it clashing with the absolute verse of the Quran let's read the full narration let's read the full narration okay the full narration is actually to do with I Leonor the Allah on even though Ali isn't saying it it's

interesting there's a person called Akuma mola even Abbas who is saying it economists say is that Ali was brought sorry certain hypocrites who were brought to Holly in some narrations it mentions that they were they were idol worshippers so you will see that there's a narration in Nessa II and in Ahmed way mentions that they were idol worshippers but in in many narrations it says there were hypocrites apostates was indeed people pretending to be Muslim and Ali said burnt Ali burnt them alive

Wow burn them alive this is what the narration says this thing reaches even a bus a carama says I then told that to ignore us or this reached him not a bus if not bus is by the way the Heat Rama used to be his slave and then he was freed by him if not a bus said oh that was wrong of i'li like if I if it was up to me and what he should have done because the Prophet told us off from burning anyone he said only Allah is the lord of fire and he can punish with fire

so I Lee got that wrong what he should have done is just executed them because the Prophet said man but the ladina who all right this is incredibly interesting why almost okay now these narrations bow hadees' narration comes through a comma okay messiah is narration mainly comes through a trauma an acai brings six narrations four of which come through a trauma right now abu dawood narration comes through a trauma sir movies narration comes through economic at Medina humble nor Asia ammidon humble

once again brings five narrations for through economic one I'll come to in a moment right okay interesting who is a comma now why am I saying this a coma was from the Herridge who are rich people you know that group that early sect in Islam that believed it was permissible to kill people if they committed major sins he what is the forefathers of the modern day Isis the huar each today when they cool the eye when they call Isis Huaraz why do they call him college because the

Huaraz were this group that emerged in the past now they did have they had fights between themselves as well and they had several fraction factions between them now so they were called the Sophia the hrudaya and the different kind of groups amongst them the niche D and and and all these kind of different groups you had but the point is that a crema was one of the leaders was one of the leaders of Isis of of the day the ISIS of the day image were referred to as the hawala rich and guess what like

the horrid hated st. alyre of the LaJuan they hated Ali they hated Moria they felt the alien mahalia destroyed Islam so he what is he narrating that Ali went against the commandment of the Prophet and he got it wrong so Ali got it wrong by burning people alive right because the Prophet said don't burn people but even our bus had told us over Duke you people supporting his ideological is extremist ideology

what have scholars said about a comma Imam Malik rejected a drama Imam Malik rejected a Kurama right he said that he was from this extremist group yeah nough seasonal and sorry said he was a cat the liar Ignis serene rejected him saya diplomacy him the great tab I rejected him and said carob he is a liar I'll cause him the grand grandson of a baccarat the law and said katha he's a liar as the heavy said this is al-hafiz

of the hobby said the higher the homeric imam malik turned away from him in another narration he says in another book he says are all the annoying Mali kind of rejected his things and he says that I karma kana you're a safe he was somebody who would see the sword that you would execute people so he's narrating and narrations coming through him dissing Sedna alley and supporting this thing of of the sword Mujahid who is a student of a banana bus you can three buoys to say he was a liar

even marine said that can America yes Cara a Kurama the Malik used to hate a trauma dislike him called a bus a Dory other and abbasid all he asked him are but other our on Raja leaned on who but doesn't he transmitted from him from a person from him he says she only a seed only a tiny amount in my Malik ever transmitted from him what did imam ahmed in humble say imam ahmed ibrahim bell said that ma I limped American had the toughest a mic Rama in la vieja d thin wide he says only in one Hadi comes to

my mind that Imam Malik transmitted from him and named him al Robbie Abner Solomon the student of Imam Shafi'i transmits from sharing from Malik that animalic say ye oh ye feei Kurama Imam Malik is to be really hate a crumber all Allah our Allah Adam he said I don't see it permissible for anybody in your pal Haditha who then he can accept his the hadith of now Musab the uncle of severe Prabhakar said Rama it a bus and no Canara yoga worried that a

crime I used to lie on evening bus and claim that even our bus was also part of the Hawara CH it was part of this extremist mentality the the son of empanada bus who is known as Ali Abu Muhammad acid jet so alia Sajjad right so right somebody transmits that I came into alia Sajjad and I saw the I karma was tied up by him and he said what's this or I can remember yet and he said Connie he said yeah crib or a lobby he used to lie on my father like make things up if

normal say Europe said to one of his servants whose name was bird lair tecnológica McKenna but I crema alumni bus don't lie about me how a grandma had lied about even a bus and many people transmitted this kind of thing so this is this is a trauma people who all of these hadith have come through all of these embodies come through a trauma in NASA is full narrations come through a trauma from kitada from a trauma in abu dawood comes through a trauma tirmidhi comes through a trauma as right these

are all coming even imagined comes through a coma a trauma right in another narration one of the narrations of imam ahmed for a rock akuto ba whom in the same alley also burnt books now check this and look how they disparaging satan idea of the law on that he was somebody anti books and he thought if you're gonna burn the books why not burn the books of other religions Islam doesn't teach you to burn the books of other religions so why would say Miley do this right okay but here somebody could say well hmm that's interesting but this

narration AHA right this narration is also transmitted is also transmitted the same one right however through apparently anis transmits this that's interesting from him Qatada from him in Xiamen nabi Abdullah from him up the summit this is transmitted by Nasser in one in almost two of his narrations and the Muslim Ahmed in one that's interesting but let's take a look at these people first of all this up the summit in this chain people

nasha Fe baton Mazzilli had more otezla tendencies why are the martyrs in our problem the martyrs in our problem because they too like the Huaraz were extremists today people say the martyrs in our all about reason no they weren't they were extremists they were all about rising against the state they declared anybody who committed a sin to have left Islam but to have been in a purgatory State and they used to speak about we need to rise against rise against the state rise against the state this

supported their beliefs so if you ever see a hadith that teaches these kind of things you need to be incredibly weary and this up dose up the summit first of all was had Marta silly tendencies what does Abu Dawood say about him that he has he's a problematic narrator yeah Tommy little teen about Hatem says he's just okay if I just says in some narrations he's reliable from Sharper you've got--if know connie al-baghdadi he says he's somebody reliable who makes mistakes okay write another narration people bring the same one I'm talking

about man but the ladina who from yama desta ye who was a martyr silly again Amata silly supporting his extremist tendencies people anybody supporting extremist tendencies massively problematic and then they say well kitada transmits this he said well that's interesting qatada transmits this from honest hmm first of all Qatada is a mass is no at least he so often brags the chain right he drops people in between plays around

with the transmission of chain this table says that he's from eluted lease al-hakim says he's my food with at least and lemme says his Cathy root at least if my band are put me in a Cell L unless there be some uneven Hajer if not have to feed all of these people say he was known for to these people so why did I bring that to show that well people this narration is life life right

this is to do with apostasy so you say well okay that's interesting hmm and that's the main narration that people use the other thing is that it clearly clashes with all three it clashes with reason I slammed giving you freedom of belief a clashes with the established sources the Quran and the clear life of the Prophet and with principles in Islam the second hadith of Abu Hurairah which is transmitted in Bihari intimately endure me and most of Ahmed as five narrations of it it's transmitted all of these narrations

people all of these narrations come through they come of Abu Huraira come through bouquet Allah Akbar right and the narrations are put a burr from lathe and it goes on and they go on from bouquet from Solomon igneous are from from Abu Huraira Rubio on some transmitters have actually said that there was another person in the chain okay right amongst them it nice how can other people transmit that and Hakim has problematized some of the narrations

from quote a BA from a lathe saying that sometimes kotoba took from Harley Delma dharini who is utterly rejected in fact a lie in some of his narrations and one of them as an example is the husband suits a book and endure me write this narration bokade actually brings from abu is how toodo see from a barrera not from Solomonic Nisa which sounds like the more true a chain where this was coming from and who is this a voice after dosey therapy says unknown module

abner ii says module unknown right so this actually unacceptable people that narration of homs al s limine right this comes in abu dawood and it comes in the muslin rahman abu dawud is transmitted from mohammed abu bakr al Bersani from ignitor range right now if mature-age was known as a be hurted lease people like shot bad criticized him as a beard right had written that you cannot accept his thing unless he says hadith Anna not even aspirin II in

this Cheney says up burning okay Dave right aspirin II is last shape because he's to read out of a book and black even at your age is kabhi hot at least in many of these things okay yeah in the trip they mentioned he makes mistakes even hogr highlights he's from the kamijo after this is transmitted from imam malik when he transmits people speaking of of of a penetration that is hard to believe there is somebody who gathers all kinds of transmissions okay the second chain that you've got from

abu dawood once again comes from his son from homs al Aslam a son who's known as muhammad in hamza a profit on says we don't know who he is even hasn't said he is naive life people dies right okay look that's a hadith e analysis i want to put that aside for a moment okay but I want you to cover it to show you I want to come back to something very simple and that is look I want to to you if you said an apostate deserves

death the first question is why if you say it's because of disbelief well that doesn't make sense because then all Kafar deserve death if you say it's because he accepted the message and then rejected it but then what if he never actually accepted that message and like most Muslims today was just born a Muslim or what if he accepted it by doing that lead by just following somebody into it and then rejected it so he never truly accepted hence a lot of those transmissions like from that amount to how he brings or Imam shokan

he brings that these people and you've got amantha how he in his the level for kaha brings from homeric now Abdel Aziz that he would take the jizya from these people so why from Mehrtens because maybe they never really accepted Islam in the first place so you gotta ask the question why a question that some people hate yet is so often loved by both children and geniuses alike why so the question is why is the apostate why would he be killed because if you're gonna say well you know it's because of Kufa it doesn't make any sense we say it

well once he embraces Islam he forfeits the right but what if he embraced it with lacking knowledge or embraced it lacking understanding or embraced it by copying people or was born a Muslim like most people then what how do you respond to that and then people say and as to the response well you give him so many days to embrace Islam does that not sound absurd does that not go against first of all the verse of the Quran if I enter to crayon nasty hotel yakunin what meaning will you force people to become Muslim because look if I say I give you

three days to become Muslim right if I say I'll give you three days to become Muslim talk to me I will answer all of your questions I heard that I recently get into a debate with some ex Muslims and he said well in Islam we would give him three days and we would answer any doubts he has you see that is such a silly statement it is an absurd statement because you are assuming that you can convert anybody back to face within three days then in that case why do you go out and convert the world because if you claim that look

I can answer any doubts that anybody has just give me three days then go out go on go convert the world you can't do that you see that disrespect you'd belittling a stuff you belittling the effort of The Messenger of Allah so Allah a leave us on them you're saying that the Messenger of Allah cool people in my a mecca for thirteen years and couldn't convert the majority of Mecca by you as an insolent arrogant bigger that you are can convert people in three

days how be you disrespect the messenger of allah salallahu alaihe salam like that how do you and say over allah gave as such and such a people a punishment in the previous days and he gave them three days so we're gonna give three days what kind of absurdity is that kind of nonsense is that if i said to somebody you've got three days three days to become muslim i'm gonna shoot you of course the person's gonna say okay i'll be a muslim i would say that if you say if you put a gun

next to my head well if you put a gun next to let's say somebody is my let's say a sibling a child somebody's child somebody's parents put a gun next to the head or a sword and said do you embrace this lump or do you embrace hinduism hell yeah okay i embrace it and what's wrong with that even the koran says that's you obviously you can embrace anything under coercion you'd be stupid not to embrace the you'd embrace it to save your life so now you're saying Islam supports hypocrisy you're saying that Islam wants people to be hypocrites

because it wants them to pretend to be Muslim just to save says obviously everybody would do that you'd say yeah I uh yeah don't know kill me me I'll say whatever you want is that how the prophet of God to people is three days and I will clear any doubt kind of nonsense absurdity this blasphemy to the the effort of the messenger of allah sallallahu alayhi wasallam that he preached for so long and he couldn't

you're saying that he couldn't convert everybody but you with you arrogant three days can convert anybody to Islam take those three days and stick them with the Sun don't shine because what you're saying is disrespecting the Messenger of Allah so Allah I leave Salaam and anybody that does these things truly has no loyalty to Allah and His Messenger they have very in the actions have no love for Allah and His Messenger right so this is the thing now so okay just to view this whole thing in

two tricky ticket to get an understanding right so how could Islam by the way to embrace Islam most as some honey and many most theologians say days would jube another is why gypped reason to embrace Islam most Muslim is born today or most Muslims more today are just sorry most Muslims today are just born Muslims they're not even reasoned about the thing so diff Islam is simply just an acceptable evening Islam because many of some of them might go on to

ponder some of them dump but this oh we you know we yes we kill somebody but and this non sense of saying oh but it's better for you that we're doing this you know what's what's funny is the Muslims who support these kind of arguments and themselves who live in let's say the Western countries all of a sudden would kind of preach freedoms and like what about oh we've got freedom of religion and how can you say this against Islam and how can you do this what if they should support then what if a fascist

regime came in here and said anybody who who's still a Muslim should be persecuted let's just say would you consider that atrocious of course it is but then how can you that's double standards because if you say Islam can do it then why can't other people do it do you then accept Hindu kind of extremists going around under the BJP rule in India and and these lynch mobs and murdering people do you accept that because they say yeah we can do it because why do you accept the under Islam then so this is a disservice to Islam there isn't a single verse in the

Quran that would ever say this and in fact the Quran is against this message secondly there isn't a single established hadith and established conclusively established that would prove that and even if you listen even if they say we've got these hadith I want to ask them one thing even if you have these hadith that have got problems in them are they not Hubble rahat are they not huh bro I had with some doubt I would say they completely life but you would at least accept they are isolated narrations with some doubt can you take

life based on doubt can you take like who on earth authorized you in Islam to be able to take life based on doubt and who on earth told you you can teach these kind of nonsensical absurd teachings in the name of Allah and His Messenger making people have a hatred for Islam it is disgusting what these people have done and I've really get upset by these people who try to close this in some kind of academic veneer there is no academic veneer to this garbage ok so that's how you gonna

you cannot take life based on huh bro I had life has sanctity that is cut I in Islam it is conclusive you cannot overturn that with a doubtful even if you want you to accept that hadith a hadith is huh bro I had we doubt in it that you accept it has doubt in it I've shown you these people criticized those same narrators so you would accept that even if you want to accept that if you would say yes it has 95% certainty not certainty accuracy or 97% accuracy 3 or 5% doubt at the very least you would say that

how could you advocate for taking life what difference seriously what is the difference between you and Isis if you promote these kind of beliefs the difference is something I heard somebody say yeah but we would do it through a we would have a judicial process that would answer questions and do so you mean it's a and administrative difference between you and Isis what kind of nonsense is that right so we need to seriously I get what the reason these kind of things really wind me up

is that how can people really misrepresent Ilana's messenger well I look there are many look there are several people they've left Islam I want you see those of you that know Arabic Google that air tyfa the the level of ill had the ill Hadees of apostasy and ko4 in places like Saudi Arabia it is on the rise massively they've been discussing this on so many TV shows that look why why is it on the rise because they sail it's an aqueduct Elfi Korea what's a

coffee here because of these because of the clashes ideological clashes I was reading the other day about this I don't know if they've executed him this think his name was Ahmed and summary and a few other people that are on death row in Saudi Arabia for blasphemy well why it hurts me you know some of these X Muslims look people say old they left Islam because old they said this because they've got a disease in their heart get lost have you you know what The Messenger of Allah said I was shocked to Allah that have you ripped open his heart and taken

a look how do you know how be you can make these claims I've read one of the the tweets about some Saudi who they said was an apostate what Allah he it hurt me to see that these people that look listen people the none of us have met the messenger of allah salallahu alaihe salam these people who have a bad opinion or they've gone away from the Prophet it has been because of the

misrepresented image by these bigots of our prophet they have sowed the seeds of hatred they have given a distorted ugly image of Allah and His Messenger to these people who have then hated Ilan his messenger they are to blame it hurts me when I see that that why you know that this person hasn't met the prophet why would he hate the Prophet he would hate him because what has he read about him he read what these idiots have been

writing they are to blame seriously and and to judge the look if a person left Islam that's this that's between them and God leave them alone yes if they want to have a discussion you can have a discussion but this kind of nonsense oh it's because it's a disease in their hearts oh it's Hungary Lud is more space in heaven or I read somewhere some post about an ex-muslim saying that Muslims are saying well your wife is now fair game or she's you know this kind of what kind of disgusting

nature what what is wrong with you people want is this how you write no wonder they hate Allah in his messenger who would who would you know because they think that's what Allah and His Messenger are saying honestly well why he these people will be answerable for what they've said they have caused these people to hate let me tell you a hadith of the messenger of allah salaam ah i leave with some of them that he when when a person came in and he urinated in a sacred space and the people got up to chase this person and

the prophet told him leave him alone leave him alone what the hell's wrong the Prophet himself went and cleaned that himself went and cleaned that and do you know when he the person embraced his father probably never told him to embrace Islam person embraced Islam the Prophet said would you would you say that in front of them they said he said iyx you know you must be the Messenger of God the Prophet said to them listen he said the lightness the Simla to dove you and me to this person is like a person who had a horse and the horse run ran off

ran wild and people chased it and the more they run after it the more it run away they chased him run and the owner said leave it alone leave it alone I am its owner and he picked up some hay and and he just simply showed it to the horse and the horse came walking to its owner he said that is the similar to dove you with this person and me that had a void left here you would have killed him that is not my message not the messenger of

allah Samaras so people look and this argument oh no we will kill somebody only if we have an Islamic state what hell is that about what Islamic state what's so different about you Islamic state and this Isis Islamic state we've is Allah say in the Quran go bisetta state no way there's a video clip before it's on YouTube or chef Akram Ned we and I did a joint event where we answer this question share a film that we actually answers that question more so saying there is nowhere in Islam this kind of Monday to

set up a state yes if Muslims got together and they live together in communities they should have some rules that govern them but it would never set out with this in this vision of empire the weights become over time and today it doesn't exist and all this is is a fake nostalgia it's a fake solution to our problems or why why are we suffering because we haven't got a state let's go back to a state what state Empire you want to go back to Empire it will never go back to we are not in stage of Empires and kings and dynast dynasts and

dynasties and so you know may allah subhanaw taala seriously give us all the ability to learn this thing truly for ourselves to really convey this with the sincerity that that it deserves okay I'm sorry to have kind of gone on but these kind of things really do rile me sometimes so I'll leave you guys with that if you do have any issues do reach out to me and shall ah that's on Facebook on Twitter like my page Cherie

I'm on snapchat ma'am 2014 ma LM 2 0 1 4 other than that people do remember the words of the messenger of allah that look make ease for people welcomed them do not scare them away that was his message ok I leave you with those words people spread love not war in sha Allah take very good care of yourselves Salam aleikum what happened to lighter I'll our butter cat