Power Of Choice | Meaning With MALM #22

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Look at power of choice, people. Power of choice. What a topic. Allahbar. So much to unpack there. And then what's been in the news recently the pig transplant or the heart transplant uh porcene transplantation or zeno transplantation uh what about it our thoughts and then I following on from that I thought let's take the opportunity to discuss Islamic diversity and as a case study what we'll look at is

the ruling on different meet and how how the Sharia looks at it through a diverse prism. Allah abar why and we'll see how that all follows in with the power of choice because it really does come down to the power of perspective. So Allah abar let's take a look who has tuned in right so clear shukran shukran all right we've got shamro hey guys did you hear about Boris

and the co I think we've all heard about Boris and his um pathetic his pathetic and um just unapologetic attitude of refusing to resign. But yeah, right. So what do we have here?

Swatkus the yobus of rice swatkus gan. Right. So, um Sam is saying, "Let's bring that comment back." Oh, I'm joking. Shukan, much love. Much appreciated.

Um um do don't know how he manages to stay fresh in vampires because such is my nature. people of Kakan and some people they are what can we say they creatures of the night and that's how God has created some people you know what was interesting is a few years ago when I did my kind of DNA thing I thought they allegedly claim that they can tell you whether you're nocturnal or you have a kind of daytime

time rhythm. And I thought to myself, this will be interesting. What would they say? And for me, they apparently said both. So as in the DNA apparently or they they did the kind of the report and claimed that the that the DNA seems to depict both as as equal features as in nocturnal and daytime.

I thought va but once again the power of belief. Huh? The power of belief. Oh, Amin Shukran Shukran much love for the super chat. May Allah bless you. Why are Muslims not developed in science today? Uh Neil Degrasse Tyson who is a legend by the way claims Gazali is responsible for that and ending the Islamic Golden Age thoughts.

I mean I have answered this before uh so without going into much detail um and I'm sure I have a video about it on uh um on YouTube. So that's it. I don't right. So naturally there could be some um some elements that to what Neil deGrasse Tyson is saying.

I don't think it's entirely directly causitive. However, maybe through exponential causation. Imm Ghazali, Abu Muhammad al- Ghazali played a um a significant role in in I don't know maybe blacklisting um philosophical thought.

So yeah, I I could accept that he he discouraged it because he it's interesting. I mean, I imali, may Allah bless him, was an incredibly complex personality who went through a lot in his lifetime and a lot of he went through a lot of permutations and changes. So he um he's a a a great Shafi scholar and an anuli one of his text the mustva is one of the um of us is one of the major books of Usul.

Um he is above that a philosopher. So his rasa he'll discuss a lot of philosophy. In fact uh some cartesian um or really a one would say a lot of what dayart is presenting several centuries later is already in Immazali's ras. So that's fascinating.

You know people don't credit him for that and I don't know whether they're aware of that. So and he was a theologian. He was a a great theologian as well, Ashi scholar. And I feel that he in addition to that became a um I'm not sure what events in his life directly led to him seeking the path of consciousness.

He definitely did and became a person of um seeking that path of the of the soul. For him it it manifested itself in a root in a root of aeticism.

He kind of took his whatever he had or whatever he could carry with him and set off to a desert and was there for many years and kind of a renunciation of the dunya in its entirety almost which is I'm not sure if aestheticism is something that it's not going to be really many most people's cup of tea that aesthetic hermitic approach naturally influenced his

outlook on life and and I feel he felt that the voice of reason could only take him so far and he felt that he'd um maybe struggled. He had a crisis of faith. And so some people even claim that he um gave up on Islam for maybe a number of days, Allah, if that's true.

But he definitely struggled and and then he felt that the only way out of this abyss is to to to kind of cast aside philosophical inquiry and to to firmly take a blind leap of faith.

Now I admire his his kind of tenacity and his his rigidity in the face of such a crisis of faith. That said, I'm not saying I necessarily agree with how he would have done it. Each person to their own. I'm sure for him it worked.

But Immazali lived almost 900 years ago. The world has changed since the last 900 years dramatically and drastically. And even reason and the voice of reason has learned so much more since then. And I would I would feel that if I imam Razali knew what we knew today, his approach may have been slightly different. Slightly I'm not saying massively but slightly different.

I don't feel he would have um today we do like with quantum physics it has opened for us certain explanations that have brought us a step closer to understanding reality and and and to and to to by reconciling or marrying it with um the mystique that these are not necessarily divorced entities.

ities and I feel that was Imam Khazali's biggest struggle and therefore he wrote the philosopher the incoherence of the philosophers uh whereby he kind of um refutes uh neoplatonism and a lot of that but I think what Gazalei does is he projects neoplatanism onto the entirety of philosophical thought and thereby refutes it naturally within 100 years the great Maliki legend of Muslim Spain refutes Hazali by writing his incoherence of the

incoherence called the dahut and I feel does a great job but you know maybe was philosophy to become as fashionable again in the Muslim world as it was becoming by Gazali's time maybe not one could argue but it does continue I don't think philosophical thought discontinues in the Muslim world.

You have great people after Imali. In the east, I don't just mean in the west with like uh in the east you have you have many people uh that will the philosopher um you you and his kind of whole is and different what I'm trying to say is independent philosophical thought within the Sunni paradigm does continue

it stagnates but whether that stagnation is a direct result. I feel it's difficult to say it's direct result of Imam Hazali. Could it be an exponential um causitive element as in it triggered this which triggered B which triggered C which triggered E and F and then maybe G impacts. Sure like that. I I accept that but I hope that's of some help.

Cool. Right. So where are we at? I but people like uh I think today the physicists and these great thinkers Neil deGrasse Tyson Elon Musk I'm a great fan of Elon Musk. I have to say, I don't know what it is, but I I feel that Elon Musk is uh he's just an he's an incredible figure of our age, and I just can't understand how um he's very inspiring, I have to say.

Very inspiring. And I love his kind of brazen attitude of just being himself. And because there's very few people who are profound pioneering thinkers for civilization and they also happen to be um they happen to communicate themselves to the common masses.

That's seldom happens. I mean that just does not happen. Let's just be real about that. You have to think of who are other examples that can that of people of you know um that really make that are pioneering par paradigm shifts for humanity but are also followed by the common man and the common person comm follows them and listens.

I mean where does that happen? That doesn't that never happens. That's like I mean even if you had great people like um Einstein or you had Fineman or you had all these great profound thinkers the common person would never understand them and would never really it's only in hindsight that they are made popular to us that we follow their quotes otherwise in their day and age normal people and they I doubt it they would have effectively communicated with the common person because they're just worlds apart.

So every now and then you get someone who despite being in a league of their own manages to communicate with common people and that's I I feel that is a gift from God. Allah gives it to whom he wills and sure. Yeah. Let's uh let's move on in light of that people.

Right. Uh, somebody said Elon Musk is cringe. Come on. Yeah, he may be. He may be, but I don't know. I just I I I'm just so inspired by him. I don't know. I I really do. I'm a huge fan of uh Elon Musk. You know, there was a a book written by uh what was it?

somebody called Van uh Brown in um or Von Brown in the I believe it was the 50s and and he writes in there uh in the early 50s that mankind in like the year 2020 or something like this will uh colonize Mars and the and he speaks about how the the kind presidential body or the president who they select their leader will be called Elon.

What a coincidence. And and Elon Musk then tweeted that saying, "Well, it's his fate. It's destiny." That's amazing, isn't it? That sometimes we we um read something or we hear something and it inspires us. It's a self-fulfilling prophecy. Um, Shray Nani says, "Why didn't you bring Skydive Phil on your mind trap?

Though he is an atheist, I hope you people will have a good discussion." I don't know. Um, I don't know who uh that is, but I'll check that out. Right. So, you know what? Let's begin with a poem. People as always set the stage Allah abbar this is a poem by Faze right so Fa Ahmed Faz and the this was by courtesy of our fellow Imran Khan from NYC.

I'm not sure if he's on tonight, but he sent me a message today saying, "Hey, Muy, I was uh watching one of your old Monday nights and you read this poem." And and he just says one of the lines and and I thought, "Wow, it's been a while. So, let me bring it up again." I brought it up. I read it and I was like, "I have to share this with the people." So, I Allah, it's by faith people.

that some clouds came and somebody had done a translation of this online. So when I was printing it, I thought yeah let me just print the have a better translation. So he says some clouds should come and some wine should be served after that whatever happens whatever difficulty comes let it come

so sorry that moonlight should fall upon me from high heavens above bartender should come carrying wine in his hands. Allah, every drop of blood in my veins should light up like a lamp.

And my beloved should come without her veil. Of course. Of course, without her veil, I was counting the times the pain has been inflicted on me by this world.

And then I remembered you countless times. My silence echoed in such a fashion. I'm getting replies from all directions. Allah says my destination was on my way.

I actually think a better translation is phase my destination was the path itself. Wherever I reached, I reached or wherever I reached I returned victorious or wherever I reached I arrived triumphantly. F it's one of I have to say one of the greatest inspiring because we in life think about this the power of choice.

I was going through some material and and and and I came across a statement and it kept echoing and I thought I'd love to share that that we are always if you think about it just a choice away from an entirely different life. Now that's think about it from a quantum perspective, a quantum algorithm that it one choice could result in the potential

of an entire different life as we know it. And it's true. It could be in simple things but it could be in many you know today think about think about your family think about whether it's from your parents you your siblings to your own family.

Think about it. You think about a job that may have changed something. A person may have moved because of where they work or or maybe one day they saw something and it you know what they just thought yeah I'm going to I want to do that and they ended up changing an entire direction just one choice away from an entire different life.

You know, years ago, I started studying Arabic years, many years ago. I was in my teens and I didn't think of it going in any direction and I didn't think it was ever possible to constructively pursue this path. I began to get more and more immersed in my studies and I it was the only thing in my life at that time.

I didn't have much going for me as you can imagine at that time. This is like in I don't know maybe 96 97 something like that. Yeah, I think 96. And you know I I just thought that this is all I'm going to do. I'm just going to learn Arabic and just read. Yeah.

And just I'll be able to if I can just understand the Quran, it's enough. I didn't have high goals and even that if you think of it was just the result of one decision. I I had gone on Umrah with my I must have been 16 and I'd gone with my mom and it was just me and her and we were with a group and this one day a person came to me and started speaking to me in Arabic and and it happened on more than one occasion but especially one occasion in the haram.

So I was dressed in in that black white kind of scarf and had a thon and this person came and he started speaking Arabic and I couldn't naturally I couldn't understand anything. So I said, "Look, I don't speak Arabic. I speak udu, a bit of udu. I speak English." And it was just the person just kind of looked at me like, "Ah, okay. I thought you you'd understand Arabic." Like just this is what I kind of gathered he was saying.

And I thought to myself, hm, you know what a shame. I don't even know basic yes and no la or you know at that time I didn't even know yes or no and I thought maybe when I go back I should just learn so look one choice and then I I started to learn and whilst I was learning I had no aspirations and no high kind of and I didn't think anything was possible and this one time I I I watched this video of um Sheikh Hamza Ysef where He goes to Moritania and he makes he's got

the old video cam and he's made this video called uh and he names it revival of the Islamic Sciences and he's just there in the tent with his teacher uh Sheh Mabaj and and with some other people. He's just going around recording some I interviewing and and whatever. It's a bit like I suppose vlogging for today.

And I remember I had a job. I used to I got myself a job. Uh I was working some insurance brokerage. And in the morning I was just watching this video clip. Well, not clip. I was watching this video and you know I just felt I want to do that. I want to go study.

And this thought just clung to me. And as I went off to work and I just thought I want to do it that yeah I want to do it. No idea how no idea what's what's in the path. But that one choice that one day it changed everything in my life.

Everything that was to come. I I mean from anything to whatever I am or to even people that I know today or friends or everything was if not directly indirectly impacted by that one decision that day and it's in all of our lives all of our lives you know.

So this that may Allah bless all of our decisions.

And you know whilst we say this Allah um whilst we say this I don't know how many people watching this are going through decisions in their lives so yes right so with that in mind the path of ease I thought it's important to remind us that you see when it comes to the dean and the dean advising us

we must always remember that this dean is one of ease remember that but if not if you want to take a rough terrain and difficult path in life most welcome and it is true that you have to sometimes take very, you know, arduous, difficult terrain to arrive at the summit of something that just luxury or comfort seldom yields significant results.

But for other people always, if they ask, help create ease for them. But for yourself, aim high. That's how it should be. That your own choice if possible should be to aim high. And I thought this quote of Mark Twain that to succeed in life you need two things. Ignorance and confidence.

Honestly, ignorance and confidence. And and why these two when you think about it? Because you see, when you're about to embark on something, you need the willpower and determination to follow it through the confidence as he says that where where he says in there that wherever we arrived, we arrived triumphantly.

A person needs that self-belief, self-confidence. I can do it. But at the same time, a like a a drop or a dose of ignorance is a huge blessing honestly. And I'll tell you that that so often in life, we've accomplished so many things. If we knew what was involved in the path to that success, if we knew at the beginning the reality of the struggle, many of us would most

likely not have taken that path. It's true with so many things, you know, if you think about it. I mentioned this about when I went to study. You know, when I went to study, I didn't think how many years is it going to take me. I didn't think I'm going to have to do this and I'll have to memorize the Quran and I'm going to have to study an alim course and I'm going to have to study an Arabic course and I'm going to have to study a MUI course and I'm going to have to study a hadith cover to cover and I'm going to have to move across at least two countries and I'm going to

have to have all kinds face all kinds of difficulties of whether health or finances or just emotional struggles And I didn't think of that and I had no idea that I just just took a step each step at a at a time and the path just kept appearing and I didn't think and one can say almost romantically ignorant with with the idea that I'm going to just learn.

And I think sometimes in life that kind of romantic ignorance is such a blessing that a person sometimes maybe he's going to embark or she's going to embark on a choice for life. Maybe it's a skill, a profession, a career, uh something to study, a relationship, a maybe it's anything that they've that they've thought, I'm going to do this.

But the problem has uh not the problem and when they thought it they didn't they just kind of romantically and I mean romantic with the idea of it they just had this belief and just took the step to Allah you know that we'll just do this God will see to it that it will happen and then along the way there's been all kinds of bloody you know storms stoms and disasters and crises and but then since they're going they just kept going and then they got it done and they think

wow you know had have I known there was going to be all this to face I would have probably just I would have probably just cowarded away from the whole thing and thought I ain't going to do that. So yeah, I think uh that's a somebody said Mark Twain dropping bangers. They never taught us his sayings in school.

Yeah, it's interesting. Uh Muhammad Hassan, he's seeing the lamp of Muhammad sallallahu alaihi wasallam, the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam. Of course, it's always a a lamp uh a guiding the brightest guiding star for us in this night of darkness which we call life.

So as always and you know what I want to today speak a little bit about a companion and I'll give you a little story. It's a love story about a companion and but it's got some elements of the s in there as well and we can we'll we'll speak a little bit about that. Let's move on to some Quranic guidance to begin. Bismillah right people speaking of the power of choice an amazing verse from surah abasa.

Okay. And you've got this right here that and then the path he made easy for for you for them for him for her. Allah then made the path easy when after you'd taken the path.

You have to take the path. A person has to act on choice. You know, somebody asked me a question that I was discussing with some friends. Um, in fact, I was having this discussion with um a couple of weeks back with a good friend of mine, Shabban, and whose birthday it is.

So happy birthday to him right now. We were speaking about free will and destiny and things like this and he was asking that look well because there's many scientists who are hard determinists today that everything has been determined and I said well I understand that but so he was saying well because everything could be primed and things could be genetically encoded and and they will say everything even the fact that I have this particular mug right here placed here in that way everything is prime they will argue and I said that's a to

me a tough cell I can't buy that and we were kind of unpacking this and I said well you see I agree but you so let's say all these things happen and they happen just by circumstance and happen stance but I'm here today I said there's many choices in life something happened, something significant. You decided to to talk to someone.

You decided to call in for something. You decided to pop in somewhere. That very thing could have equally not happened because you see when you made that choice like let's say you are sitting somewhere and somebody's sitting there now you true it may be your genetic coding that allows you the confidence to talk to someone that may be circumstances and it may be that circumstances had brought you within such proximity and your your kind of

um your your disposition is one that is an extrovert and you like to talk and you like to but you had that choice at that moment to not exercise. You see you could like that acting on that. You see to act out that potential was clearly that action stems from your will your kind of choice to do it

because yes the whole DNA could have encoded you for that capacity and potential that I right now like let's say somebody says hey I don't know I I I see something saying if you're interested in this particular job thing or this thing, call this number and I'm the type of person that can do that and but for me to act out and do it in that moment where I could have equally just been especially for what are coincidental moments.

I don't mean things you've been building up for. So somebody builds up goes into medical school is building or she's building to be a doctor. I get that. But things that happen per chance and you and you have the potential but you act out by following through that is your doing. I feel that that I don't know to me I I get it that they would still argue against that because they're hard determinists but I don't see to me that is the power of choice and following through with it.

So this second verse from surah talaq interestingly Allah says that somebody whom Allah has bestowed his blessings upon him or her. Let them give from that. And this is interesting because you may think well okay what about somebody who doesn't have you know it's easy this person can give um

a lot of money let's say because they have money this person can donate a lot of resources because they have resources to donate this person can do this because they have that but I don't have that but Allah says Let them give from what God has given them.

Allah does not burden a soul except with what it can accomplish. Now here you see maybe your thinking is off point when you're thinking yeah this person can always give back to humanity because they've got money they've got resour resources to do that they've got whatever it is but what but what about what God has given you and you say well what has God given me empathy

compassion time. You see, not everything has to, you see, not everything has to be of monetary value. We all have been gifted in our own way. And I'll tell you the secret to always to to to baraka and growth in that is giving.

Give of your time. You you go to university, you study certain things, teach someone younger than you. Help them. Help them out. Or if they're struggling, you know something, you have a skill, help someone. See it's just it's simply a choice isn't it? person say, "Well, why should I see these?

There are I tell you there is an a counterintuitive algorithm at play in this cosmos and in this dunya and that is that Allah places baraka and he gives exponentially and counterintuitively by you giving." See the hadith says take a step divine assistance will come rushing.

So I I thought this is such an amazing verse to once again a reminder for all of us that Allah will always place ease after difficulty. And this verse the the final verse to conclude with on this from verse three.

Now it's interesting Allah says we have guided them to the path. Now you think well what path you see you've been guided and inspired to have the thought for good and bad to help or to shun or to forget help. the opposite to make life difficult for people. You've been inspired, if that's not the right word, but you've been inspired with the intellectual acumen to be able to come up with that

Allah's gifted you with the intellect. You want to be helpful. You want to be cruel. You want to be compassionate. You the ideas they've been gifted to you. Allah. Now I want us to just quickly focus on these two words. Right? Just check this out.

Either grateful. And the word that is used for grateful is it's just it's the simple uh active participle like somebody that writes not it's not saying which is an exaggerative form of highly grateful. No, just simply shak just a slight amount of gratitude.

Just be grateful. You don't have to. Nobody's saying you have to become I mean sure if you can you don't have to become the next Mother Teresa a simple gratitude look the outcome Allah is saying that a person can take this path he can just be great doesn't have to be sure you can aim for that he doesn't have to be just beak just be grateful

You see is on the excessive form. It's not see but Allah has contrasted it when it comes to you giving back to towards humanity by extension God. It's a small amount of gratitude. It goes a long way.

But you see this ingrateful attitude, it avalanches into something huge. But the path is in front of you and it comes down to a choice. One that could result in your life being something entirely different.

So people I wanted to share that with us. Let's take a look at some of um your thoughts. Uh somebody saying salamkum salam Moody. You're doing it. You're doing it. Right. So right, what is going on?

All right, so let's shall we move on into a discussion. Right. So, those of you that are familiar, something that caught quite a bit of the headlines or at least on social media, I would say a landmark event for humanity as a whole.

And it's raised questions. People have asked and they've asked about Islamic permutations to those questions. And that is people zeno transplantation. Okay, what are we talking about? What we're talking about is in in recent weeks we've experienced as humans as humanity has witnessed a successful pig pig's heart.

So porcene heart transplant into a human in America successfully. This is such a significant event. It is incredibly um illuminating. So it's it's given rise to all kinds of discussions that is that possible which it is. And and then what is this about?

What has happened? And is this halal? So, so is this something that the person could accept as a donor? Could they accept a porcene heart? So, let's briefly just tackle that and then unpack it more as we go through it.

You see, we have to understand, and I've got a detailed video on the incremental um evolutionary um or developmental ruling or perspective on pork through the Abrahamic faiths. So, if you watch that, it is a detailed video. I go through the the so-called developmental journey through the Abrahamic faiths of pork and pre um you know mosaic laws.

So what how was pork viewed in um in the recent millennia coming right up to our time and Islam and what led to its so okay the other thing I would highlight is that pork is the only clear um animal that has we've been told in the Quran not to consume And I've got a detailed video explaining a perspective on why that may be the case.

Sure, people may have other opinions, but I've got a detailed video and you're more than welcome to, in fact, please do watch that. It is not talking about pigs as a um some kind of a cursed creature from God. They are not. So, how have the scholars viewed pig in and of itself in Islam?

And we'll speak uh shortly on a follow-up topic which is to do with different how scholars view different meat within Islam and what is halal and haram. But pig especially in the school of Medina that is Immalik's school it is a pure creature. All creatures are pure by default in according to the school of Medina according to Imam Malik and the knowledge he inherited in Medina.

So life necessitates purity. No animal is impure. So a dog is not impure according to Imam Malik Madhub. Uh neither is a pig. So if a pig drank from a bowl, sure you don't have to drink that bowl. And maybe because you we may have a cultural um kind of um aversion to pigs and therefore we may find uh it disgusting because let's say that's how we view and some people may do that with different animals just as they may find other creatures maybe they have a kind of they

find it nauseating for them based on their cultural practices. That's absolutely fine. That is your personal cultural reaction. However, according to the school of Medina, Imam Malik Madhab, no animal is nudas. No animal. And the hadith to do with when the dog licks a bowl and it should be washed.

And I've got a detailed video on that as well. The Imam Maliki clearly highlights that yes that hadith is there but maybe we don't understand why it's come and he says maybe it's and this is why he he just says that and some of the Maliki say maybe he was just speaking about hygiene. Now there is a difference between hygiene and between being pure. So for example, somebody can c somebody or something can carry germs.

They can carry diseases, they can carry poison. There's a lot of reasons why some creatures you may want to either keep a distance or you don't want them uh mixing with your kind of especially food items for many reasons. It's not that they are nudges in Islam. So poison for example in Islam is haram to consume.

It is not nudges. So the same thing with let's say uh bacteria dogs licking a bowl. Many of the Maliki Ola said that they felt that maybe what they alluding to is that maybe the dogs in that time had rabies and this was perhaps why the gradual incremental development of that ruling.

But it's not that the dog is nudgous, but they say sure you can spill the water and wash the bowl and do that. But let's get back to the discussion on all animals are pure by default and they remain pure. That doesn't mean you can eat. I mean, okay, we're going to come to that discussion. But it doesn't necessitate you eat something just because it's not nudges. And the example is poison for example. It is poison is pure in Islam.

It's not considered like if you had poison in your pocket and you prayed your salah is absolutely fine. It is not an invalid salah. But to consume the poison would be haram. So it is not always and similarly with let's say heroin. Heroin in and of itself is it's not a nudes product. It's not if a person had heroin in their pocket and they decide to go into a mosque and pray, their salah would be valid.

But to consume heroin would be haram. So you see there there is not a we shouldn't there's not always this understanding of if something is haram it must be impure. Now I accept other schools of law may have looked at that differently and will and they do other schools of law have thought because the pig is declared haram and nudas in the Quran um that this must be because it is impure.

Okay. And so there is a difference between the schools. And sure if you follow that school where you feel that uh several animals are nudges because in the Quran Allah also says about the mushriun in mushikun and nudes that they are nudas the polytheists. Now many most did not understand this literally. They did not say that the that mushik are actually nudgers because bunny Adam insan are generally by mo by many are generally considered always pure even if they themselves may be in a state of impurity

but they are pure. So for example their touch their saliva things like this are not considered impure by many of Islam. So if you drank something this concept of you know what they say sometimes jut like where people say in Arabic that what is left behind that if somebody drinks something and they leave it behind in in India and by extension Pakistan because they influence with in the subconscious the collective conscious sub collective consciousness it carries that cultural baggage of castism of these are lower

casts and we can't mix and these people are impure and these people are nudas. So many Muslims too don't drink uh you know they they call it like the jutah of someone. We don't drink the leftover from someone because it's considered bad. But the hadith says that the especially of a believer is but yet many Muslims don't do but that's culture. So the in and of itself is not impure.

Yes. If a person's been drinking alcohol or doing something like that, that's a different ruling. That's not a default ruling. So let's get back to life necessitates purity according to especially the mother of Imam Malik and school of Medina. So all living creatures are always pure. Dead creatures may be impure. Now that's a difference you see because life is the element that keeps everything pure.

And that's an important point. So just to understand that. Okay. So secondly in the Quran we are told about Allah says eating the meat of pig right Allah uses the name of the creature. This creature is not hated by God. Okay. I think it's it's unfortunate that Muslims think that this is somehow a hated creature.

God hates God doesn't obviously God created it. It doesn't it is not to Allah all creatures are equal you know they're not like sure there's wisdom in don't eat a snake for a particular reason or don't eat a pig for the reason or the wisdoms that Allah may have put in it but it doesn't mean God hates this creature.

Okay. So Allah does use the word for pig. And the reason I'm saying this is because I know as kids we weren't allowed to say the word pig and we we used to always avoid saying it would go big when we were in school and we had to read something we'd go oh it's we can't say the word pig we used to say we used to think it's haram but the word is in the Quran on several occasions Allah says it comes in the Quran so it's not a haram word just so we know that now Allah says You see, whosoever is in a state of desperation.

Let's say you're starving. You are uh you're going somewhere. You're starving. You don't have Allah says they can eat swine meat. If you're starving and you've got nothing and whosoever is forced as in they have some, they can eat it. Allah is saying they can eat it. Not me or you. Allah is saying, "Hey, eat it." Why?

Because life is always paramount. Always. These things will come and go. These things are not life is precious. Whosoever preserves a life as though he has preserved the entirety of mankind.

See so that Allah is telling you make that choice. Sure a person if but Allah is saying in that state even pig is not haram for you and that's to eat. So now you fast forward if you are in a state where you your life could be saved by taking an organ from a pig should you take it? Yes of course of course you should take it right this will preserve life.

Okay. So that's just a uh an understanding. So if anybody is confused that first of all is a pig pure and then I've highlighted that yes there is a debate within uh Sunni Islam but with a strong pioneering school of sunnah that is the school of Medina coming from the descendants from the descendants of of the of the companions of the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam in Medina and that is Imam Malik teaching you that yes all animals are always pure because life necessitates purity.

Second question. Well, if you had to eat swine meat, you had to eat pork because you were almost starving to death or you were in a state of desperation, can you do it? The Quran teaches you to do it. Why? Because life is always paramount. So, okay, if you can save people's lives by manipulating um pigs and especially pig organs and you can save lives, then yes, of course.

So, that's what I want to share. Now, just a bit more about this. those of you that don't know this this pioneering uh project. So a bit before by the way so so just a uh a slight tangential note for decades people have been experimenting in fact for maybe a century or two people have been experimenting with trying to save humans with animal organs.

So you'll get um almost 100 years ago people had tried it. They had tried taking some for example uh monkey organs and trying to uh place them into a human in some kind of surgery but it often just resulted in um very immediate collapse, failure and death. Okay. So you do have certain incidents where people have tried that.

Then leading up into the 60s, there were several attempts that people um there was an attempt where I believe up to 13 people had uh baboon kidneys placed into them and and some of them um but but they it just led to very rapid failure and and death. And there was there has been attempts to for a heart transplant in the 60s as well with a chimpanzeee heart but within just a couple of hours the person died.

And then I believe in the '9s there was a an attempt that was successful. I believe it may have been a baboon heart, but it was successful for several um or was it sorry that was a liver but for several months but then it kind of collapsed and and the issue has that is the issue that has arisen is usually that the human immune system you see people for for quite some while have thought that look there is similarities between certain organs that animals have and humans like chimpanzees may have and pigs and different kind of uh mammals

may share certain similarities in their kidneys and in their hearts. And so if we replace even though with the chimpanzeee heart the heart that the uh the operation done several decades ago was far too small. But besides that there's other issues of blood groups and then there's the key central issue that the human immune system will attack the foreign uh organ because it sees it as a foreign element and it will start to attack it and then even if it resists momentarily it will eventually break down to the immune uh

to the immune response from the human. So what we have now was that this team, this pioneering medical team, they genetically modified the pigs to be able to um to resist the organs to resist the human human immune attack.

So when it's in the body, it wouldn't be broken down by the immune response from the body. Now this whole program which was pioneered in America was undertaken by a Muslim, it was actually led and pioneered by a Muslim doctor, a Pakistani Muslim doctor. So this I believe he's uh part of Mryland Medical University. His name is Dr.

Muhammad Mui and you've got his profile right there and you can see it online. He pioneered this whole program and he's somebody who studied himself in Karach and I believe uh developed a lot of experience there and then moved to the United States and he's been part of this uh Zeno transplantation and then successfully for the first time delivered on what is this uh this pig to human heart transplant and this changes everything.

Um, it really changes everything because as you can see the the the options are almost limitless. I mean we're talking from lungs to kidneys to liver to retina to cornea to eye transplant to skin grafting. So many things uh the future holds just it is so bright because they the obviously we have to see the outcome of this in maybe the months and years to come that this heart is not uh kind of rejected and it's successful because all they have to do is

genetically modify the pig its particular organ and then there you go it's good to go and transplant it straight into the human and it will save millions millions of lives worldwide. I mean it is absolutely mind-boggling because you see pigs and one of the question may be why uh why pigs because you know one of the questions I don't know if that many people may think I was thinking anyways why not chimpanzees

I mean are they not and they're not actually a better and I'll show you why this is a you can see here a um a chart here We're just showing comparing juxtaposing pigs with primates and you can see things like um so for example with a baboon where the size of adult organs are actually inadequate to a pig and the length of the pregnancy.

Look at the distinction and then so and how soon it can reproduce where a pig period of rep uh to reproductive maturities within 4 to 8 months where a baboon 3 to 5 years the breeding potential of pigs is is very good compared to baboons. Uh you're looking at the cost of maintenance is significantly lower. Um, now also the fact that pigs have many piglets.

They the the whole litter of piglets are being born. Whereas with primates, you're only dealing with one. It's not. So you're having an entire litter that is being designed accordingly. And unlike primates, see, pigs can live in very controlled environments. like you set up the the pig barn and it's it's not difficult to maintain them and control.

Whereas chimpanzees are very or baboons or primates are very kind of um even if they can be kept in confinements but they are very animated creatures. They're not the kind to just stay there and just munch and you know they need to be jumping around and they need to be jumping on all these trees and and they need larger areas as well to stay in and they and they stay in tribes as well.

they're not just really um so when you're looking at and how long does it take the gestation period for them to give birth and then how soon after can they give birth and what is for them to arrive at the age of giving birth they have to be so many years old and then they just it's you're looking at one and then how long that's going to take and even the environment of the pregnancy because it's how how the chimp or the primate has to be kept But they're still very they're kind of um um very lively which and there's an

element of unpredictability with primates whereas with pigs very controlled they rapidly reach an age of reproductive maturity. They give birth to multiple offspring. Uh their organ sizes are actually larger. So certain like a chimpanzeee its heart size even though its anatomy is in many ways more similar to human humans but the size of the organs are often slightly smaller some organs like the heart as an example and things.

So you can see here wow and pigs are in no short supply because they mass reproduce unlike chimpanzees. If you started just killing chimpanzees around the world, you you wouldn't have many chimpanzees left. Whereas pigs that you would just have these mass mega kind of pig farms that would just manufacture them, genetically modify them and they would be alive.

You see the thing with organ transplant is often a p death is unpredictable. So when a person dies you have to have the organs removed within that lifetime. So so before there is organ death and that's difficult and it has to be removed and then taken to the recipient within that couple of hours.

Whereas in this case you would have the pig that is alive and the organ would be removed whilst it's alive and and there you go. I mean you know whilst in in a state of it being alive and then under anesthesia and then it would be directly transplanted to the human and this is going from things like we're looking poss it's it's limitless we're looking at skin grafting we're looking at things like eyes cornea we're looking at things like uh the heart lungs potentially you're looking at elements like uh kidneys liver

it's just amazing If these things become so rapidly available, do you know the waiting lists are that they are out of control in many parts of the world. So I think this is a huge blessing and I felt I have to say really proud that this that the pioneer to all of these um was a Muslim.

I don't know. I just felt that wow that's to me that that was like just incredibly impressive. Uh I hope he is uh celebrated. Uh you know I I definitely I'm sure obviously he is in the United States but I'm sure because this is a moment of immense pride for the Muslim world that because maybe humanity has now embarked on a new chapter for human health and its longevity and that too pioneered by Dr.

Muhammad Mahadin, you know, may Allah bless him and uh reward him. He's in infinitely, I believe, the Maryland uh within the United States. If anybody that watches this is in touch with him, um definitely reach out, extend our love and ask him would he would he would he like to come on to Mind Trap. We would love to have that discussion with him.

So, right, that's um yeah, brain transplant. Imagine uh losing a loved one only to have them revived. Imagine that, huh? Brain transplants when they come along. Telling you the world, we are witnessing history in the making.

Ladies and gentlemen, it is happening. I'm telling you, somebody said, "Kind of ironic. They think we hate pigs and then this happens." Yeah, we don't hate pigs. I get it that there's a cultural um aversion uh to to them. But that's but it's not we don't hate them or we shouldn't hate in that sense.

If if people do uh they should come to understand that you know we don't need to hate something just because it's haram and it is often a matter of perspective a digital world. Um it is indeed it's a digital world you're having uh Imam Trump has asked is transplanting sexual organs halal?

that have you seen the there's an interview of I believe he's I actually I believe he's Muslim as well. I could be wrong, but I'm sure I recall him as also uh South Asian and I believe in the UK he So there's this guy who's having an interview, right? He's having an interview about for some reason, I don't know what the what the injury was or whether it was a um just a kind of congenital uh defect or what it was, but he's I've forgotten now, but he his um the male

appendage, shall we say, wasn't working. And so, or I think it was missing or it was maybe I think there was an accident. And God forbid. What an what an accident. That's like a lot. That's like DNR. Do not resuscitate. It's like so forbid. Right.

So there's so I think it was an accident and he he loses his appendage for as a better word. And what they do is they provide him a new one and and and they're asking him in the interview about the the the size. Would you did you get to choose the size or did you get and he has it if I recall correctly with a kind of like a switch which is implanted by the kind of scrotum where he can press the switch and it just kind of it just stands to

attention. It's responsive, shall we say? It's digitally responsive. Imagine that's on wireless now. So, it must be now on W. It must be like phone activated. It's like got facial recognition. It's like, oh yeah, mistake. Mistake. Sorry. Sorry, man. I was Alexa.

Alexa, Alexa, not now. switch off. [Laughter] So yeah, what uh somebody said, I wonder whether getting a new heart would increase your life expectancy. Of course it would. Oh, you mean if you're a normal healthy person?

Well, if you're a normal healthy person, I don't know because I'm sure there's many complications with getting a new heart as well. But it's just that they, you know, the the pros outweigh the cons if you're failing heart failure. I if you're facing heart failure obviously if you've got a healthy heart already or reasonably healthy heart I don't know whether that would be a wise choice so to say you might end up with with a choice power of choice just in a new life as well but not a pleasant one um right so uh

yeah stem cells is a whole new um area as well I just wow I just I you know it's amazing what's happening around the world honestly it's amazing right people I wanted to speaking of um let me just bring this up so Let's what I want to take a look at

trying to What's going on, man? Right now, I want to take a look at a question of what meat is permissible in Islam.

But really this question is a it's secondary. It's important. But what I want to navigate through is showing how in Islam we have an incredibly rich and beautiful diversity of thought because remember what when I'm speaking about this power of choice

I and this This theme of having to choose your path, you have to understand that that path is your path. Even when it's the path of faith, sure it may be shared by many people who may be on their path of the same faith.

So, but it is still your individual and unique journey. Make no mistake about that. So, this dean when we follow it, it will give us guidelines. It will give us rules, regulations, it will give us a code of conduct.

But that let's say guidance may often really be guidance for you. Sure, it may be for other people too. But what what important for you is that it is your personal it is you your journey your path your faith that you are going with.

Sure be passionate about it learn about it. Teach it to people. If they ask discuss it you know celebrate it. But remember, people are on their own journey. That your choices will often result in your outlook which will shade and give you a lens and a a perspective on the world including your faith.

So it will tell you something. Now this is why I often say that in Islam there are so many ways of looking at something and that's fine. If you follow a path that somebody says something you follow those things then that's how it should be for you. If somebody else follows something different then that's how it is for them. Islam is about celebrating that diversity. It is colorful. It is beautiful.

It is amazing. And it may seem confusing at times to people but that's okay. It's not. You see, people may say, well, if there's all these different rulings, what do I do? Which one do I You follow the one you follow. It doesn't matter. It is a path. It is a choice. You see, the main thing is your devotion to God.

You may be devoted to him in this guidance that you get that you follow. T you know, somebody else may have a different outlook. doesn't matter what matters. Allah says it is not your sacrifices or your prayers or your you know these things that reach God. It is your devotion.

See, so the choice really begins in there. Now, let's So, I wanted to take a case study as an example to demonstrate and reflect that colorful diversity in Islam because people often say, look, oh, this person says um I don't know, saying happy new year is is is haram and this person says it's not haram. What should we do? How can there be such differences?

Oh my god. This person says you have to wear a and this person says no they can wear the the veil and this person says that oh no just modesty is the ruling and there is no oh this person says uh this is haram and smoking cigarettes is haram and this person says smoking cigarettes isn't haram and this person says this and this person and they say well how can all these things be?

They can't be because you see the prism through which they are viewing things is that their journey is the only journey that everybody must take and Islam is black and white and the truth is that yes in matters of faith of God in saying is does God exist and is God one? Sure to you it is a dichomous reply. It is a binary to us in faith.

But within Islam, you see the Sharia, the rulings, Sharia means a reservoir we drink from. Who drinks from the reservoir? Everybody. Everything. Do only humans drink from a reservoir? What the hadith in the mat I im Malik brings that the the the that the animals are drinking from the reservoir and somebody says to he says he says he says to the person who owns the the little the reservoir that is do animals and beasts of do predatory animals and do all kinds of animals drink from here

says don't tell him don't reply says we drink from where other creatures drink from. Don't get us into this metaphorically taking from that here that look what I'm trying to say is the Sharia Sharia means a reservoir.

It is a collection of water and water you can't distinguish as a binary. This part of the water means this. This part of the water means it may even have colors. It may have shades. It may have an undercurrent. It may have a different uh reflection. It may seem green from here and yellow from there and maybe just and just opaque from here. And it may seem like that just the way the light is reflecting of it. But but you know what?

It is a source of life water. But don't make but you can also drown in water. You can also ruin plants by over trying to be obsessive, trying to be cruel by flooding them with water. You see, so metaphorically taking that let's come back to this journey because here you have a question.

I wanted to use food as a case study because it is so ubiquitous and it is what we call in Islamwa. It is something which concerns everybody and every single day of their lives it concerns them. So you'd imagine that if there was ever a ruling in Islam to be so clear and so restrictive and black and white, it would be about food surely because yeah, I get it.

Somebody may ask about interests of banks and yeah, but not everybody's an economist and not everybody has wealth and somebody may speak about the rulings of farming but not everybody owns land and somebody may speak of these things. Sure, but not everybody. But everybody eats food. Man, woman, child, elder, you name them. The healthy, the sick, the rich, the poor, everybody needs food to survive.

So surely if this if we can take this case study as a as a lighthouse which will beam and guide us to how the attitude should be and the nuances towards the rest of the Sharia.

So if this is very black and white then fine everything let it be black and white. And if this shows you a rich colorful diversity then we just accept and we should embrace and celebrate this beautiful diversity of Islam. And if it's confusing it's okay because you see things in life are complex. You follow what you follow and and there is that power of choice.

So let's take a look at this beginning with what meat is permissible. Okay. So right now let's get that up here. So, speaking of meat, and I've brought different extracts here just I mean there's so many, but I've just selected some to kind of just show um that have some references and things.

So, when we're speaking of food, let's take a look at meat as as the case study. And the question is, well, what kind of meat? And we're going to restrict it generally to three categories. The sea, the land, and the air. Okay. So, creatures that that pretty much sums it all up.

Now, beginning with this seafood here, we begin with a diversity straight away. Okay. So the scholars have disagreed um in different opinions. Okay.

So according to um according to the Maliki that everything of the sea isal and the most valid according to this uh perspective from the and you can see the references to from the maj for the and much U for the second opinion.

Now there are certain evidences for this and we're going to take a look at them shortly. Let's just understand what the rulings are. Why do they then disagree? Okay. So, so we've got one understanding. The Malik have said everything in the sea is halal. Some have said that. Position two is that So except a frog, crocodiles, so some amphibians there and snakes, those kind of like they're saying snakes that also live in the sea.

Okay, this is the hy perspective. And this is also some of the by the way. Okay. Okay. So that's in the mock that everything in the sea is haram except fish specifically. So and some have said this as well and you can see the reference there in the much more.

Now okay so what are we saying so far? Let's we're just beginning with sea me animal or what we can eat from the sea. And we've said well according to the malika every single thing every single thing sharks even even if it's we'll look at that even if it's amphibian. So they've mentioned frogs and this doesn't mean you have to eat them but it means it's not haram.

You name it. Any kind of fish, any kind of squid, anything that is of the sea is halal. To the opposite end, the are saying everything in there is haram except fish only. And even dead fish are haram according to them. Okay. And then I don't know if it's in the middle, but somewhat I suppose more towards the Malakia, you've got the Shea and the Hannabila saying, "Well, okay, exclude frogs and uh crocodiles and um and snakes, but the rest is halal." Okay?

And according to the Malik, even crocodiles, everything is halal. And there is diversity but but not in this in the sea they they pretty much agree everything uh is halal. So okay so what is this? So just to give you an example what is this based on? So the first statement is uh so in the Quran this verse of the Quran Allah says that it is halal for you hunting or yeah hunting or taking uh food from the

sea and its food is a a sustenance for the travelers as well transmitted So it includes now according to this interpretation it's hunting and here they understood as in what the sea spits out as food.

So meaning the animal is already dead. So if the fish is dead, it doesn't matter. It's halal according to the Malikia. Okay. And the hadith of the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam which is in the and in the four major books as as well as that okay and they mention and you can see there that and this is what is mentioned and there's discussion of it in um of okay so what about the second opinion second opinion going to which is uh the and some of

They use the same verse. So we're looking at the same verse but the choice of perspective and they exclude exempt uh things like uh frogs because there's a hadith that Ahmed and Abu D and these hadith transmit that the prophet the prophet prohibited killing frogs.

Okay. Now uh there's some discussion about the hadith but that's irrelevant right now. We're just talking about this is the evidence they use and they said as you can see uh this discussion is in and other books that um and they say and why not crocodiles because they eat people duh and why not snakes because they are from the because Allah says in the Quran there's a verse of the Quran that is a generic verse that that

that Allah makes the um that Allah makes the good things halal and the those that are kind of repulsive makes them haram or disgusting. Now the question is the so here you can see some of these people like the saying well we're using that as a principle to say well whatever we find must be haram.

So snakes are found kind of to be repulsive so they must be haram. The Malakia are saying no. Sure. Here when Allah says he makes the things the repulsive things haram those are those things he has made haram not what you find repulsive. So if I as a person find a chicken repulsive does not make it haram. So this is you can see how the reasoning differs and they you see their perspective based on their choice of how to understand things.

So we can see that now coming moving back in there you can see. So okay, you've got there the uh the perspective the first the now the third the perspective you've got here. You see they use this verse of the Quran

that these things have been made haram. The dead have been made haram. Blood and the meat of swine. see Allah did not say that that the dead from the land has been made haram. He just said the dead. So based on that, if the dead is from the sea, it's still the dead.

So the say dead fish are haram, right? So they use this verse and you can see the other verse as well. Allah makes the is haram for you. Uh so whatever other than fish they consider to be repulsive. So they think that if it's not a fish it's repulsive to us. So therefore it's haram because Allah says he makes the is the uh and Allah um you see it says the thing is that it's mentioning uh about

that this that hunting from the sea but they say things like uh frogs and crabs and snakes are not entirely clearly sea creatures. So because they amphibians and also they so you can see this is in uh and this that's in the as well but al sorry discussing that.

So you can see now these three different outlooks one school that is using this verse say everything in the sea is halal. Allah is saying that so everything is even if it lives on land but it's still halal. The people in between saying sure everything in the sea is kind of halal but we're going to make exempt those things we find repulsive because they because Allah says so we find frogs repulsive we find crocodiles uh kind of repulsive but also um at the same time the prophet forbade

to kill frogs. Now the malika would say yes to kill frogs as a sport to kill them but we're not talking about food. Those who want to eat them as food that's different to kill any animal is for sport would be haram. So now you've got okay so you've got this then you've got on the other end the saying well no Allah says uh but he says by there's aith that uh the prophet made two dead things have been made halal for us as in two we don't need to sacrifice

an alad locusts and fish and therefore fish is the only halal thing from the sea anything that's predatory Anything that eats sharks that eat people or that do things like that or that live on the land or amphibians are haram and they are from the and also even dead fish are from the ma so it's haram.

So you've got these three huge diverse perspectives about creatures about seafood. Think about it. Whether you can eat a shark, a seahorse, an octopus, uh, depends on the method. If you can eat crocodiles, can you eat um I mean, you see, so it depends where you stand.

As a a footnote, I I've had a crocodile burger many years back. It was quite interesting, crunchy, but okay. So, you see, you've got a diverse spectrum. So to some people if it's haram they follow that opinion take care you follow that opinion that's your devotion to God if you follow this other opinion that's the meth you follow it's your devotion to God but okay let's let's go back because that's so far it's taking a look at creatures of the sea okay now

okay now very quickly just looking at you've got here amphibians um that look what what do we say about that? And you can see there look they mention things like frogs again, tortoises, uh sorry, turtles, crabs, categorically considers this stuff halal.

Um um so you can uh and I've explained that already and you can see this is discussed in the of and it's discussed also in the of Noah speaks about it in the and these references now the in the relied upon position with the is every dead creature from the sea is halal.

except frogs. And they mentioned that and some of them said except tur tortoises or turtles. Um and then snakes and then also some kind of like chimps and things like that, primates if they're around the the sea. Um and some people said there the sea birds as well. They they've included them. Um but but generally most of them would consider them to to be halal.

Okay. Um, so look a summary of these opinions just there. Number one on the left hand side it just it's halal categorically unrestricted except frogs. They don't categorically not. And um so and then that which is so so kind of seabirds with the exception of that the others there must be some kind of um like a see when they say sacrificing

these animals they don't mean slaughtering they just mean some kind of intentional um you you kind You you have to intentionally you have to act in I suppose bringing as sad as it sounds but in hunting or killing that animal okay it's it can't just be dead that's the opinion there but the halles just very quickly so all the animals they're mentioning all of them they have to have some and it can be its own so it doesn't have to be so for example if a person was

hunting a shark or they're hunting a crocodile. It doesn't have to be that they I mean it's not they don't do anything like slaughtering, but it could be that they have a particular a kind of like a a gun tool that that kind of that kills it. That that would be the theat. So, it doesn't have to be uh but whatever it is, it's an intentional kind of act that they do. And according to the Hannfi, none of this is permissible categorically because it's not fish.

Okay? So you can see there um an interesting um discussion there right there. So, so and keep that in mind next time. And this was a slight distinction or an issue which I won't go too much into, but we'd spoken earlier on about the pig and this was a fascinating point I thought I'd highlight and that is about satiation that if you were eating something which was haram but you were allowed to eat it because let's say you were starving and the Quran says if a person is starving and they really fear for the for themselves they can eat pork.

So the question is can you eat it till you're full to your fill? Can you eat it like get full and or must you only just eat a small amount and the scholars disagree and they say look that and and that you can't eat to to your fill. You can just eat enough to get by. And that's one of the understandings of Im Ahmed and some uh Malikis had said that.

However, and this is the more popular onehmed and mentions it and it's one of the opinions of and and and they have these evidences for it and Shani discusses it in his as well and I thought well okay that's an interesting discussion because you see eating to your fill it it's interesting because why is it interesting Because it's no longer just about well you're not starving you see because the moment the discussion is once it becomes halal in

that essence in that gathering is it now halal for you and these people like Malik and the opinion one opinion of he's saying that this is now halal just you can eat your fill it's an interesting discussion although not um I I I thought it tied in more so with the discussion we had on on on pig and pork.

But moving back to this point, right? So, right. So, birds of um so we've looked at seafood and then there's land and then there's the air, the sky. So, birds. Now most importantly let's go to that on the land and because it really is a bit of an eye openener the diversity in this and you can see here that look that

so the thing is can we eat predatory beasts and you can see some pictures there tigers lions cheetahs can can people eat that I'm not saying they need to eat that or this needs to be food. Surely it pro most likely isn't. But these wild beasts of prey um are they halal in Islam? Wolves and stuff like this.

I'm not saying people necessarily eat these things, but if they did, uh anything that is considered wild and uh dangerous like that. So it could include and by extension people actually include elephants in that because they say the hadith mentions nab this long extended teeth and they say that I they're taking the horns of the elephant as an example although it's not it's teeth but all these animals that are wild and harmful and can be predatory especially th those that are carnivorous and can we eat them?

Now you may be surprised to learn that once again there's a beautiful diversity in in understanding that that first uh position or the group of that this is haram categorically and they and from them you'll find the hal the and you can see this discussion in al- mug or kabir mo and um uh all of these and their for that is from The hadith from the sun from the sunnah that the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam said and one of the popular narrations from that the prophet sallallahu alaihi

wasallam said that and this except and the rest of them transmit it but usually this hadith is in it's even in the prophet forbade that every creature or every bird with with its kind of uh talons or claws and every um predatory beast that has that is that has these kind of canines uh or these

kind of sharp incizes sharp teeth is haram. So you can see that there is a hadith there. So this is why these mabs have already said that well now look at the second this is not it may be discouraged but it is not haram and this is the apparent reading of the and is the mash according to the the and that's in and there is another opinion that that is haram according to so there is an opinion in that there's obviously much diversity

um and and they and those who support that say that Imam Malik brings this hadith in And it's you can see and the of that the prophetam um um now he's saying I don't think Malik says that part.

I think that part might be I'll have to double check that. I don't believe I think this person who wrote that is mistaken there. But Immalik does bring it in the mahar. And this is why those people like Abdar who um who who who feel that all this is haram say that the fact that Imam Malik brought it in his m is the reason um because he's trying to teach you it's haram.

But the other madhab say that that's not the case. They say that Imam Malik brought it here to show you that he's aware of the hadith. Uh so it's not that he didn't know. And this is fascinating. So let's just let's just unpack this a bit. Why? Because look, how on earth does this go unchecked?

Can we eat tiger meat? Can we eat lions? Can we eat, you know, can we can people eat this stuff? Can they eat? You think this would be clear in Islam? And the reason that this diversity exists is to show you that you see these rules. Yes, they are important but they are diverse and it doesn't like people have made a choice of their perspective and you have a choice but then what matters is your devotion.

If you follow the method and you stick devotedly but you have no right to condemn for example a or a maliki when they and likewise and people's mhabs they have a choice as well on what mhab they follow and and that's a different discussion for a different day but let's get back to this right so let's take a look at this because this is so honestly it's mesmerizingly fantastic as a discussion to show the diversity that you see you've got and this is the verse of the Quran they use in

that Allah says tell them I do not find anything haram for a person eating for a person who is eating anything haram except except that if it's carryan like dead meat already it's already dead Oh blood that has been shed to drink blood like that because people would do that with their sacrifices and to their pagan gods.

Oh or the the meat of or swine meat pork these things have a rich a filth to them and that's all of them the drinking that sacrificial blood and also eating carrying dead meat that has been left. So even if it's a halal animal like let's say a goat but it's found dead because this often became a source of infestation and it would often lead to diseases and things like this.

So or that meat which is offered to other gods is haram. Why? By extent because of how they're offering it. So even if a person was offering a chicken to Zeus or a pagan god that becomes haram. Whosoever was however desperate out of starvation or circumstances and they ate it then your lord is all forgiving.

Now this is the verse that is the backbone to this because according to this verse apart from these four things nothing else is haram to eat. So you think what that doesn't make any sense but that's this is the backbone and we can see here look and in look he's saying uh because this hadith some people claim that this is and um theith

and some people say no that this ayah some people say this ayah is abrogated Others say no it's still standing. So these three companions transmit this but the thing is some people transmit different things from them. Now look what is showing im Malik transmitted from him that there is nothing haram edibly like in terms of eating

clearly there is no clear haram food item except what was mentioned in this ayah restrictively. Now look at that difference right? So and he's one of the major malikes from the east from the Iraq. This ayah encompass encompasses um that every animal being permissible except what was exempt in this ayah from carrying dead meat, blood that was

shed and pork. And this is why we said everything except human meat is whoad is saying this from the from the and this is why also has this category of that which is uh silent in Islam.

So if you move towards the center you've got by and he begins by saying you see the question is when was this verse revealed so many people said this verse was revealed in Makkah. Now some Malikis like Arab and others say it may have been revealed in Makkah but it was also revealed in Medina right at the end towards the end of prophethood.

So that's according to his he says it's both that when from the last verse that today we have completed this was revealed. This verse was revealed with that and no verse was revealed after it to abrogate it.

Okay. And just to see once again a great Maliki legend on the left hand side those things that areal and he says he says there's so you can see is saying that

etc all these things are haram. So Abd Malikb who's from the of Malik students he says these things are haram because of the hadith okay that which Malik transmits okay because it says and who's from the and the legend from Abhari who has his commentary on The abd and his as well and great maliki from

the Iraq teachers of Abdahi say here this is only why because from verse 145 that they say that look Allah says tell them I do not find any food to be haram. um any food to be haram for somebody that uh is trying to eat except

uh except right let me just pause that except these four things that are mentioned in that verse in surah 145. So okay just to clarify that once again because why is this why is this so phenomenal? This is showing us how diverse and tolerant Islam is.

You got a person eating tigers for God's sake. And you got somebody saying crabs are not permissible. And you got somebody eating sharks. And this concerns every day. Every living soul has to eat. And look at how wonderfully colorfully bright this reservoir of Islam which is called the Sharia is.

And it is then a choice of how we understand things. And then it is a choice of what we are devoted to. It is not about the other. It's not about is he eating uh kangaroos or elephants or tigers or wolves or not saying you need to but is he? It's not it's not my job to police.

I am devoted to my path and I go with that. Okay. Somebody else wants to follow that that's fine. That's their path. You see, Islam was never and then just to clarify once again from the school of Medina here we've got so let me just bring up here I brought some commentaries on the just to show so you've gott this I believe the first one on the right hand side uh is uh I believe right so that's and the other one is and you can see that

verse 45 surah again that I do not find anything tell the person who wants to eat I find nothing haram except these four okay what are the four that Allah mentions that you've got very clearly carrying dead meat okay spilled blood pork and that which is sacrificed to other gods so really there's just three because sacrifice to other god can be a norm like can be aal animal but because they sacrificed it to another god it becomes haram.

So it's more by it's by contingency whereas okay carry on as well by contingency because really it could be a chicken or a goat or sheep but because it's dead uh it's haram. So really, you're just being told about pork is the only creature in Islam that the Quran categorically tells you to stay away from. The rest by contingency you can stay away from if it's found dead, if it's offered to another god, etc.

according to this understanding of the school of Medina and I'm not saying look uh somebody may say that look somebody may say but yes uh sure you know we get that but doesn't the school of Medina also disagree on this and it does it colorfully disagrees you know you're going to get the whole of the Iraq going one way the Medin going another way but the point is this is in the in the major books it's not something that is a real hidden in a way kind of what they call this is what builds his upon which is the relied upon kind of text within the malik.

So the point is not that every malake must follow this and believe this and I'm sure there's many malikes that don't but this is a clear understanding within the maliki m a clear understanding and it doesn't mean that you need to follow it but it's just showing the diversity and how we must be tolerant. So let's take a look at this thet of this this verse in okay the is the kind of slaughtering and straight after verse 145 fromah

that it showed uh that the uh the so it showed Um, right. I think they've actually got a spelling mistake here because what they're trying to say is it shows that what's not here is not haram. So, apart from these things, it shows the rest of the things are not haram.

However, he mentions I believe this is Alish. He mentions that since it doesn't it's not always necessary that if I don't mention something, I'm saying it's halal. Therefore he feels that's why the the Malakia considered it. So he's giving his kind of reasoning and why did they say then and he says look out of caution.

So the madani kind of students like kana like al- majish these people and habib is from andaloo but he's a big proponent of that mi kind of thought in his wa they're saying these things are haram and you can see abd also influenced with that a few centuries later arguing for that as well and he says look and he said the popular opinion it is

because it is in essence like an elephant or a tub like a bear and he says uh and he mentions these things like uh you're going to have cheaters and tigers and stuff like this. So going to the left hand side and this is from Mak in his commentary under He says, "So predatory beasts are just in the Malik said." He says, "I don't like eating meat of

predatory animals. I don't like it." says and neither things like fox nor wolves neither wild cats these kind of actual wild cats and neither docile wild animals so if somebody had tamed some of these animals he says I don't like eating that kind of meat then who's a great legend of Malik he says

that the Iraqi school from the Malik say that eating predatory beast they don't differentiate they say all these things are simply and who's from Spain whereas the Mini students saw it as haram because of the he says

he says those predatory beasts that don't attack you. So like things like like foxes and stuff like he he mentions wolves. I don't know why he thinks wolves don't attack but some wild cats. So according to them these are not and that's from the so okay so it's mentioned that look there's two opinions but you can see very clearly the um you can see in parenthesis on the in both of them and

in the left hand side uh in brackets this is his actual text saying it's makru and he builds his mab upon uh the uh upon the Iraq on this issue and this is also what people like and others highlight and Ibra seems to go in line with that saying the verse is still clear and just to sum it up I thought this was a nice summary this was why Abdman al Jazzeri the alari scholar who has a popular book on according to the former maths I thought why not let's

take a let's just have a reading of that where he sums it. He says look uh that he says uh from the birds that any animal any bird sorry that uh he says any bird that has its kind of claw its kind of talon uh it's it's like a bird of prey um that he says like eagles or whether it's going to be falcons and things like this uh are all haram.

Okay. Um and he says what what is not of that category like doves and pigeons and stuff like this. He says that isal and he says and he's giving a summary of the mabs and he says so all predatory beasts are haram that those that kind of they attack and hunt other animals like a lion, tiger, wolf, beers including beers will feel and and monkeys and all these things and he mentions they are haram and he

includes the the jackal and wild cats. But then he says as well look you can see that every animal that is pure which is pure is uh is halal as long as it is not harmful to you. So if they had a poison then it's by extension haram. It's not haram in and of itself but by extension because it will harm you.

says obviously it means that as long as hereal means you haven't stolen it and stuff says you can eat predatory birds birds of prey he says that's absolutely halal look the second part he says that say you can eat all kind of uh beasts of prey whether it's lions tigers figures etc.

He says he says except when it comes to monkeys they had two opinions some said haram some of the some of the malik said it's not haram it's just you don't eat it but it's not haram and he says and the relied upon opinion is that it's just says and things like this so you can see here the reason um I've uh I I've highlighted that is just to show that look there is this uh rich diversity

within Islam and I think it's important and I've just got a summary of it here that look that the Malikia everything sea sky land except pig carryan etc and um this is obviously a simplification the shea they do u no predatory animals they do allow the sheaf actually do allow hyenas because there's a hadith in Tidi and Abu Daw that they could eat hyenas and they do allow foxes and things like that and uh they allow birds of prey uh especi several birds of prey and uh sorry they exclude sorry they exclude birds of prey and frogs and

crocodiles. The hanafia you can only eat things like beef, mutton, poultry, all kinds of poultry, birds and and fish. That's it. So you can see here um one madhab which is the school of medina and on the other hand the school of kufur and this huge spectrum between them of what is halal and haram to eat and it's you know almost everything almost like from if you're looking at creatures and I didn't include here things like um things like

hash hasharat and these kind uh things like insects and stuff like that because the Marakia would say that none of these things are haram although they may be discouraged because people don't like them and they're kind of repulsive and also they take into consideration harm. So they'll say like can you eat a snake and they'll say well if the snake is going to poison you then obviously it's haram because of the poison by contingency by extension not be by default.

The same thing with insects. So you see and and this is not to say so the Malikia often criticized people say the Malik say eating dog is not haram and that's true I mean many malikes because according to this especially the and that school would say that dog meat is not haram it's maku but that's not because of dogs that's because of every animal on earth according to them apart from bar pig is not haram it's only makru or permissible or or not makru and some disagree in the vary in the and there is a diversity between them but I'm going with that school that says

well like the saying uh that nothing is haram so obviously a dog is also a creature so by extension somebody could say well ah so that means dog is not haram and it isn't according to that but that's doesn't mean that they eat dog it doesn't obviously that that's that's repulsive but it's just saying that look it's not declared haram.

So just as a wolf is not haram, a tiger is not haram, a lion is not haram, monkeys are not haram, elephants are not haram, bears are not haram. So snakes are not haram. So their point is that these things are dis may be discouraged to eat and stuff like and people generally don't eat them as far as culture and convention goes. But the ruling here is to differentiate.

You see now this is the genius. You can differentiate between culture, religion like what Allah is saying and human temperament. You see like I could see a lizard and find it disgusting, repulsive. It's repulsive yet it's clearly halal according to most people. Okay, even according to some hanafies it's halal.

But but the thing is that because it's in the hadith that they the some of the companions were eating they were eating lizard and the prophet found it repulsive and and and they thought it's haram and the hadith is a popular hadith and the prophet said and they said shall we stop eating it is it haram and the prophet said he said that he said my people where I'm from we never used to eat this he says I find it nauseating to look at it like that like I find it repulsively disgusting but it but it's not haram.

You see my temperament should not dictate Islam. You see and that's the genius of it. And this is why the the school of Medina highlights that sure you know I'm not saying you need to eat these animals. You don't need to eat these creepy crawies or eat these predatory beasts or try to eat eagles or crows or things like you don't need to do that.

And many cultures won't do things like that. And many people may find some of these things repulsive and that's that's normal and you should find these things repulsive. But just because you find it repulsive doesn't mean God has declared it harm. See, so there is a like a fine genius of thought. But even more amazing than that is the is the is the kind of tolerance and respect to each other that a person could be eating frogs for God's sake.

I mean I I think in in France I'm pretty sure they eat it's is it I think it's a delicacy. I could be wrong but somebody could be eating frogs and that could be disgusting and somebody say oh my god that's haram that's haram. But it's haram for you, not haram for them. You see, they are on that mother. And you may struggle with this. You see, you may say, "No, I can only function with black and white." But that's okay.

You see, because you take your black and white, keep it to yourself, and you practice your faith and you you you forward your devotion to God. And your devotion is what Allah rewards you on. You see, so taking this as a case study, it it's we learn one the diverse rulings of the Sharia of of of eating meat.

What kind of meat is permissible? whether almost everything is permissible bar pig to very few things apart from very common uh meat products which are commonly found like beef mutton chicken uh poultry that that kind of stuff that's it so you've got this huge diversity but I think the primary lesson that comes out here that I wanted to share with us and I was using this as a case study exemplifying ing this uh that in Islam you see the path the reservoir

is different for different people and that's okay you see you don't and you we don't impose our our rendition our perspective our choice even of how we see things we don't impose that on somebody else we devote ourselves to what we believe and we go with that Okay. And everybody in their own ways coming from a place of love and everybody look at all these maths that said this.

They are all using the the words of Allah. And you know somebody may say that's confusing. I find it amazingly beautiful. You see they're all coming from a place of love. And the Quran with its dynamism allows people to understand different things and they're they're not to condemn each other. And this is one of the beauties of traditional Islam. See, classical Islam.

And I'm not this is not I'm not trying to uh attack let's say Salafi Islam or this but in all honesty this is one of the struggles major struggles that Salafi Islam faces because it does not have such a colorful landscape and it doesn't have the the tools. It doesn't know what do we do in the face of such ambiguity because it's only taught that things must be black and white.

But it enters a realm of 4K color. It doesn't know what to do here because it so what they will do is just say well okay well there's only one right answer here and the rest have really got it all wrong. And that right answer is what for example my teachers have said. Whereas traditional Islam would say, "Sure, my answer is right for me. Your answer is right for you.

It's okay. The paths that lead to God are many, but Allah is one. And our devotion is what counts. May Allah bless us all really and and may he kind of enable us to to to to really open our hearts to diversity and to be more tolerant and compassionate and not to feel that my what I follow I must impose on people.

A mean so people with that let's uh move on. I've um somebody I'm just going to take a look at some questions. Is beautiful. It is. It is. And I get it can be scary but that's okay. Don't don't be scared. It's not you know some people told me that look oh but by mentioning this you know people get confused

but I get that but that's just the they need to they need to grow yet you see and they will grow inshallah they will grow I get it it's like trying to you see when you teach a child about something slightly complex with diversity, the child brain is still developing. So it it struggles with understanding complex like it'll say so for example it's easy to understand a hero and an anti-hero a villain story but it's not the child would be comp it's difficult understanding drama where there is no one right guy everybody's kind of right and wrong and everybody

does so this is more complex that comes with more adult thought so yeah I get that and that's Hey people, I must say Interante Interante. This is the the Galaxy uh 4 We watch.

I do like it. Right. So, right, let's uh move on. Shukran, Shukran, Nora, I appreciate it. I really uh wanted to share that because I wanted one people have asked me the ruling of meat but to be honest that was not my motive to share it for just teaching people the ruling of meat. My motive was really to just show people that you can take something as so fundamental as food which is necessary for every single human being on earth that lives.

So, and you would take the expectation that surely, you know, if you come to this with blinkers, you think, well, Islam must have just made a clear list. And then I show you this wonderful diversity and you think, what do I do now? And and you're going to have a moment of um there's going to be like an existential tremor, a shock, like almost like an existential fever.

But in that fever the immune system is working to for growth. Okay. And what happens post exposure is that you will start to grow in and your faith will grow in beautiful ways. So amen. Right. Culture of ambiguity help me out. Uh help me get over it.

Uh we right. Okay. Shukran and Sam else. Much appreciated. You know what? I'm going to check that out. A culture of ambiguity sounds interesting. Definitely. Right. So, um, Aim Khan Shukran Mi, here in Texas, people tend to eat whatever they find fishing in the One thing I got to love about the American culture, honestly, that I think, wow, is the stakes.

I just think there's such a a state culture, isn't it? And I just I I watched something on YouTube once about I think Texas and the steaks and it was like massive man and they just eat oh my god I love the steak. I just love steak so much that I think you know what this is God we don't really you know as it's amazing that as Muslims we didn't really even though we're a meat eatating communities but we didn't generally go down the steak route.

We don't really have a steaks is a foreign thing for us really. It's not. So people might kind of just have u you know like lul mashwe grilled meat and stuff like this but the steaks as steaks are it's uh when you think about it it's so simple isn't it and it's so easy to cook in a way. I mean obviously people have expertise but it's we didn't really it was not it didn't we didn't really have it as a thing which is surprising I don't get because it's such a simple concept just taking a a slice of meat and just I don't know I don't get it why that happened

um chi Allah is all knowing also why would Allah make it a duty for the angels to record and report things Allah already knows and always sees is sure that is true. Um Allah is all knowing and I I don't Allah does not you know this thing that everything is recorded. Um it's to remind us is to remind us that's all.

And it's interesting now there's certain notions that that every that there's certain uh concepts that for example every word we've uttered it it has its existence except we can't access it but given let's say the right technology in the future they could access even things that have already been said it was somehow recorded if they could I it's it's just mesmerizing like there is also a um something on YouTube I was watching a while back where a person taking a certain amount of equipment could take any photo and he could

rendition it to reproduce the sound with the photo um which is mindboggling but given the right equipment they could produce a certain amount of sound that was there and it's it's on YouTube it's so it's fascinating that what we do leaves it's it's kind imprint and in a way you see we're living in the perpetual now but the pre the past and the future are kind of all also kind of there in a way and the past so I guess I'm kind of there doing one hour ago sitting talking about what I'm talking

still in a way I guess that's still happening because the past present and future are but an illusion so I guess it's it's crazy it's mindboggling But it's recorded then I mean I these things are more for us to understand and to become more conscious of it.

Uh what's the lesson from the cow story in the Quran Casey Shukran? Uh much love for the super chat. And yeah I mean that's something I'll go through on a different day. In essence, one of the lessons that I could just say for from the story of the cow in the Quran is about not becoming awkwardly obsessive over kind of finite religious detail.

The the purpose is your devotion to God, your intention that your heart is in the right place. Them asking all these questions. They were asked to make a sacrifice. Ah, what kind of cow? Ah, how old should the cow be? Ah, but what color should it be then? Should it be like this? Okay, what should its experience be? Well, I mean, what what games are you playing with God?

Sure, if you ask the questions, you get answers. But, you know, it was just a simple thing. It was an act of devotion. The meat was never to reach God anyway. Yeah. Right. Uh, Nora Shukran, much love for the super chat. Um, what are your views and guidance on using phrases like subhanala, peace be upon him when referring to God and the prophet?

Should we always use them? Should we say them in Arabic or our native languages? Um I I think you can say in any language. Um I I think if a you see a person doesn't have to like if a person like if I'm speaking now and I say look uh well God said this. I don't need to say God the Almighty or God the the the transcendent. I don't need to say that.

But if I said it, sure. I mean, it's it's a it's it's a beautiful thing to say that if I said Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala, but I could get it that if you're speaking to let's say you're speaking to just non-Muslims and it's going to be a bit confusing, then you don't need to be confusing them. I mean, if you because if you said, well, look, okay, so Allahel, and they're like, sorry, what?

What? What? And then you keep repeating this and it's it's hindering the message. You see the hadith says talk to people in a manner that corresponds to their intellect and reasoning. If I'm speaking to Muslims, sure, maybe even if I'm speaking to non-Muslims, sometimes it may come out just as a as as a kind of second nature.

I may say, well, the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam. Now sure I may say but maybe if I can consciously apprehend that and say well peace and blessings be upon him or the prophet uh you know be blessed he had taught us this. Now I don't need to each time I say the prophet in that sentence say you know uh peace and blessings be upon him.

If I want to, sure, I can. But what I would say is look, keep the conversation natural. If you're speaking to Muslims, it's natural at times to all to to send blessings upon the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam. If I was speaking to Muslims, I would always say, you know, sallallahu alaihi wasallam, you know, may Allah's blessings be upon the messenger of Allah. And in and the prophet by taught us the art of giving by sending blessings upon him because that is an art of giving that really just blesses us but it's it just shows that that kind of creating a heart to give to bless because by extension

you'll bless other people. See the prophet sallallaihi wasallam doesn't need our blessings and god does not require need us to say be all but this teaches us by extension we will send we will bless other people but if I'm speaking in a in a gathering where people are of this and it is natural to say that I I should keep it natural but whereas if I start saying hey you know the prophet you know the prophet sometimes people say hey you know Muhammad said and in in a gathering of Muslims.

Now that would come off um distasteful like it's a bit like somebody almost saying yo it's like sorry you know so propriety issues should always be kind of uh taken into consideration and etiquets but if I'm speaking to non-Muslims imagine I'm speaking to now Nora you're from a uh a non-Muslim background you know I'm sure you've got many friends who are still non-Muslim Now, if you're speaking to them and maybe you want to speak about Islam, keep it natural.

You see, sometimes if you start saying a lot of things that the other person doesn't understand, it starts to seem cultish. Like imagine a Christian was speaking to us and every time he said something, he said a phrase in Latin, nobody understood it. And then he then in every second sentence he says some words in Latin in in a chanting manner.

See you you get a bit put off because you think what's going on here? Why is this person saying that to me? Like what? I don't get what he's trying to and you feel almost like is this person has this person become like very cultish now because that's how it feels to the other person because you're speaking in a way that it's not natural to them. So you see people don't always like if so in this culture the western culture let's say you love someone um now you might say sometimes after him ah you know this person ah bless him you know he's like this this and and that

shows your love for them and people it lights people up that wow this person really loves that person now you might say you know another time a god ah I love that person so much and and this show but imagine each time you said Oh, hey, you know that person, bless him. And then say, and that person, bless him, was going down the road and and he met this other person and he said, bless him. That you know, God, why do you keep saying bless him?

And you see, it comes off unnatural. So this, so I would say it's important to always keep a natural rhythm. Sure, if you're speaking to Muslims, it would seem very natural. Um you it doesn't mean you need to always do it but if you did do it it would be natural if you did it occasionally. If you did it once or twice it would still be natural. Um that so that's what I would say. I hope that helps.

Um Siraj I'm watching after many months. All right guys I did want to share a brief story. All right. Why not? Huh? Why not people? So, and then I could share out the link and we could let me just check.

Um, yeah. So, I thought I came across an interesting narrative and I thought this is fantastic to really share. Speaking of choices, a companion who was known before Islam um has an amazing, you know, a life full of accomplishments.

His named Okay. But I wanted to share a part really more so of his life pre-Islam and a love story that is attributed to him and some people haven't mentioned it and they may say well you know but the point is that several people have referred to it and it's inspirational and these things the stories that we learn are more so about inspiration.

Okay, somebody did ask me that, oh, sometimes some of these stories when they're about these figures, we they may not be what, you know, we can't 100% say this is how they were or this is how they weren't. And that's fine. You see, you're not taking your um you know, it's it's not a matter of faith. It's a matter it's a story that has a moral to it. And if anything, you can take inspiration from it.

Okay. So with that, an interesting, intriguing, different and unique love story that takes place between um and so just to set the landscape.

Okay, so this is pre-Islam. Um, and just let's zoom out for a moment, pause this, and just get a get the kind of backdrop to what's happening. So, Mikd as a child, he is raised in the tribe of Kinder. Kinder are from the southern tribes of Arabia.

I mean they do move into central uh Arabia but they they origin are from the southern Kani kind of tribes and there's there's a legacy of kingship and it does follow right through into into kinder as well and we've spoken briefly previously when we spoke of uh IM from Kinda and a bit about the tribe there as well. So Mdad's father whose name was uh now he goes by we know him as but really uh most likely his name was

okay and was his kind of uh his uh adoptive father later on or his kind of foster guardian later on who he becomes known by. But his father Am is there's some disagreement where he comes from. Some people say he comes from Yemen. Um he's actually from the tribe of has some falling out and comes and settles in Kinda.

whatever the story but they say he was a somebody that in that time of pre-Islam when there was of there was all these stories of these kind of warriors and raiding and all this kind of he was somebody who had a a reputation of courage this is Mdad's father and he has this falling out with some tribe um and because of who he is he thinks right I'm going to move and have a fresh start and he goes and settles with Kinda in this in the tribe of Kinda and he marries from them and shortly after he he he has a child who

is Mhdad and within a few years he himself passes away. So Mhd grows up in this tribe and he grows up with his he he has an uncle there and this uncle um is Jabir. Now whether he's his actual uncle or not, some people have speculated, but the point is he's he's like he he either is his dad's brother or like a brother to his father.

And he's incredibly well we wealthy in kind and he has a status and everything. And he grows up a bit with him. But because now his mother is the only one fending for him and her. She's not very wealthy and she's struggling. So he kind of grows up poor and uh he has to kind of do these uh gopher jobs as in you know watch over my cattle or watch over this and you know he's kind of really undervalued.

Mhm. Is so as he's growing up after all he is his father's son and he does have that whole kind of he has this strong stature to him. very like a big build and and he he naturally kind of inherits people say that element of courage and bravery um as he hears of his own father but he grows up very unfortunate very kind of uh struggling with circumstances and then to introduce a character into the story right so

He grows up whilst he's growing up he his if we can say cousin or like a cousin this Jabir's daughter by the name Masa incredibly beautiful very talented and as as a the daughter of somebody prominent in kinder she has a lot of wealth spent on her she grows up um with w with luxury and convenience and a lot of kind of amenities and she's uh very fortunate, a lot of opportunities.

So, Mdad naturally he he sees her is incredibly fond of her and some say as they grow up there is a mutual kind of chemistry. But she too is very familiar of the circumstances that look um even if she does have this chemistry with him, this is never going to go anywhere because this cuz look at him.

He's so poor and he's like a nobody. And in that day and age that you know you were not going anywhere in life if you were just incredibly poor. So as Masa comes of age, she she really ventures into certain she's quite different, very kind of uh confident and in in addition to being very beautiful, but she's very uh brazen and courageous and and she takes a liking to sword fighting and and she really gets into this and

she becomes like really proud of being an impeccable kind of fighter, swords, swordsoman. Okay. And she's she has this incredible reputation in kinder that wow that this woman she can actually you know she men don't stand a chance in front of her.

So what happens is Mdad he's he's around he's this one day he comes to hear that okay now that she's of age and she's has this huge reputation her father is telling her that look you need to get married uh at what time you know like like how this appearance as well they'll be like when the girl reaches a certain age they'll be like yeah this one we need to first we've got to do our duty and get her married and they have this sense of urgency when it comes to girls.

Um, so Jabir Masa's father says, "You know, we got to get you married. Come on. Time time is nigh. You know this one." So because she's got this reputation now, you can imagine in a warrior culture, now let's just take a moment. Yeah. in a culture like Arabia back then pre-Islam which is if anything the only kind of faroff approximation give is like a Viking culture built on raiding and warriors and so now there's this reputation of a woman who is this incredible fighter and this is naturally going to peique

the interest of many men as you can imagine that would think this one it gives that kind of like that feisty element that people think a so a lot of people were very curious that yeah we've got to so they start sending their proposals now Mayasa wasn't interested now whether this was because she had a liking for Mikdad or whether it was some other reason she was just fed up of men and didn't really wasn't impressed by men whatever the reason but she declines

them so her Father says, "Look, come on. You can't keep saying no to suitors." So she says, "Okay, ch okay." She says, "Okay, but with a condition." Says, "But I'll put a sh in here." Condition says, "I'll marry the man." I'll marry a man.

He's got to be a suitable suitor. Of course, that goes without saying. But but he has to defeat me in a sword fight. So the dad looks at her and says, "Look, come on, really?" And she says, "Yeah, he's got to beat me in a sa." So we both be horseback and he's got to fight me.

So dad says look Jabu says well he thinks well okay you know what's so this news goes far and wide so people start thinking about where's my sword they say that uh

what's that for Allah that give me my sword. He says that I see that the the war is only but increasing. Right? So a lot of people come and guess who decid guess who also hears amidst all of this Abu Jahal in Makkah this is obviously pre-Islam

so at that time Abu Jahal has he he has children and he has a son and he he is of this he's familiar of this uh um of this tribe and stuff. So he he says that look okay you know there's this woman maya kinda are like an elevated royal tribe they've had kings and kings in their tribe so there's this prestigious woman who has this amazing reputation and um why don't I marry my son uh Abu Jahal's son is alhamdulillah so he says I want to marry hanzalah to her

so he turns up so he says he goes to um and she says that well this is the condition. So at the time Abu Jahal and his name is Naham by the way Abu Jahal's name. So he says h you know they because they do find it a bit insulting because look oh we've got to kind of fight you know this isn't this isn't very ladylike you know this not lady ladylike you know so okay but he says okay we'll set a date so whilst this is happening other people are sending proposals and they're turning up

and Masa is taking them on and every person she takes on she's kind of like decimating them. So during this time Mdad who had grown up and in that time you see many people grew up learning self-defense. They most people had some familiarity with self-defense and some more than others.

And you have to remember Mikdad's father was a known warrior and therefore you can imagine a child weight growing up with that kind of legacy of my father and therefore trying to also follow in his footsteps and be like a great warrior and he himself was rated as like a great fighter. But during this time they say that he went to his uncle's village not his paternal maternal uncle and he asked them that look uh because he says to his mother I want to marry mayasa.

So his mother says, she says, "Look, would you, you know, like most mothers, they're going to be like, look, can you just focus on doing work and getting a job done and take care of these, you know, these camels and take care of this for the people and marriage and, you know, she's way out of your league." and she kind of says to him and then he has he actually says this poem to his mother which kind of uh hits her a bit this and I did bring it up here as well.

He says look that a poor person goes and everything in life opposes him and people shut their doors in his face. He says, "And people they denigrate him, disparage him, insult him, and they don't even know why they hate him."

says even the dogs when a poor person walks past a dog the dogs start barking start showing their teeth and he say this is how they treat a poor person says and if they see a rich person the dogs see a rich person going it says they kind bow themselves and waggle their tail and they they bring out their cute eyes and you know this is says this is how the world treats a poor person and a rich person.

So the mother kind of sees the pain in his eyes and and this she says look okay if you want to go to her village and go and you know seek help and so he goes to his maternal uncles and and he asks them to train him as well to kind of like to to kind of polish up his his kind of martial arts with the sword and to give him some good swords and train him and he spends like several months there and he's training and look at the the devotion and commitment.

You know in life the power of choice like commitment this is that same dialogue you can see that that once I have a commitment that and he commits himself and people are laughing at him and he goes there and he spends months and he's training and he's training and he was already really good at it but he he's kind of polishing up and months later what happens is um Abu Jahal um he had arranged okay fine I

will arrange for my son to to fight to have this kind of sword match with Mayasa and they'll arrange it around the outskirts of Mecca so he they had set a date like we'll set this date in months to come and basically my son can kind of get ready and we'll set a little festival and you know we'll make an event out of you know like rich people do. Ah rich people think this is this is rich people problems that we'll make a festival and we'll do all this stuff.

So during this time and the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam is there he's alive but I believe this is pre-profitthood though. So the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam at this stage hasn't uh received prophethood and he hasn't begun the dawa this so he's probably the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam is in his maybe mid30s so this is that kind of time so

who is by the way only in his late teens that's how old he is he does this training and he hears of this festival this kind of they're making this fear they're kind of setting a date and she's going to go there So he thinks I'm going to turn up as well and a few other suitors are turning up as well because they think like well you know what it's we'll have a match as well. So it'll go on for several days because you can't keep fighting on the same day.

Now Masa is there in all her pride and you know all this extravaganza and she's kind of like and people come up to her and she takes them on and no and it's so humiliating for them that they are being destroyed and insult. It's like an insult isn't in that society that this woman you can't that she's she's knocked you off your horse and you can't even stand your ground to her.

This is how it kind of feels to them. And you see Jabir is her father is kind of he's a bit worried with all of this because he's thinking, you know what, this is a problem. She's just beating everyone and mo most people this is going to make people shy away from proposing.

So this is a problem, you know. So he's kind of trying to tell her that look you need to uh ease up and she's like no and she's not interested. So amidst the crowd arrives the young man and and who's known as that's so he arrives but he doesn't want people to recognize him because remember he's he's from he g he grows up in in Masa's tribe in Kinda and they know him and that's like his kind of like an

uncle to him. So although he doesn't he's not kind to him but he knows him. So, so he goes there and he's kind of molest he's he's he's got the kind of the the kind of and he's he's borrowed a horse from his uncle and he's borrowed some weapons and he comes and and he announces that I would like to go face to face with mayasa Allah what people will do for up risk is maybe you can go on the battlefield and not

come back alive maybe risk but there's a risk in it but you know in life sometimes risk you've got to take the risk man so it's interesting with the risk comes the risk Allah Allah Allah so he thinks Ah, this is worth the risk.

So he goes there and he says uh I I I sign up to this. Um so they say cool. So they don't know who he is because he's just horseback and he's kind of molest them. He's kind of got this on this kind of he's covered his face. So Masa says fine. And she's she's been there for you know whatever how many of her days they've been there in this fear and and she's defeated everyone and she's defeated them in such a hum with humiliation.

So she thinks, "Ah, yeah, just water under a bridge, huh? Another day's work." Ah, she is surprised. Oh, she's like, "Wow, like Mdad is a a fighter." Like, she's like, "What the hell? Who is this guy?" And she goes at it and she takes breaks.

and several and this goes on they say like it goes on from like just afternoon noon up until before sunset like she's she's like shocked like I don't wow like I don't I can't believe like this is this is just disbelief and Mdad like compellingly overpowers her and on some occasions I think she tries to use a spear or something and he breaks it and this is on horseback.

So he she is like just and remember his his identity is concealed. So she's like and and people are like who on earth is that guy? So she tries and tries and then in the end again mdad cuz the to defeat the opponent you had to throw them off the horse and he does. He had he defeats her. He throws her off. She falls off her horse.

She's defeated and she's there's mixed emotion because she's obviously upset she's defeated but then she's kind of so wowed who is this she's impressed you know impress she's like finally this is uh I've you know and there is something about that warrants respect isn't there that kind of there's that in controlled because in power lies.

You see this in fact Jordan Peterson speaks a lot about this about having the capacity of being a monster but not being a monster that having power but being tame in control having composure is something and so she's really impressed so so she says that who are you? So now people are all intrigued and he says that look have I won or is there more to this like because before we get into who am I and identity disclosure let's just clarify is the game still on do you is

this a rematch is this have I won the proposal is let's let let us make the claim first so she says myasa says yeah says I accept his proposal. Says whoever this man is I accept his proposal. So at this point Mdad removes his kind of veil.

So she recognized him. Obviously she knows him since she was a child. This is Mdad. So she says yeah I don't object. The dad however Jabir turns into the classical Amrish Puri character that you see in Bollywood.

He says, "Yeah, Tom, you you're a peasant. You know, this guy, how the hell can I?" And he objects and he's kind of like in a huff and a puff and he goes off to his kind of tent and and people disperse and and he says to people, "Look, I'm not going to let this happen." So Masa who now has this she's on that frequency the chemistry with Mikdad Mikdad who tried hard like look he's had this chemistry for years but when he saw this opportunity of taking you got to a duel you got to fight it out he went

trained committed people even his mother was like come on for real who's gonna he's just not going to choose you it's like this Oh love. You know this is it. We will you know if one what is it Allah that till death we will seek you out.

That this is what we carry life in our veins for. this is what we do. So she's absolutely on board. She's eager. She's keen. She says that this is the guy I'm going to marry him. Now Jabir Amish Puri in this scenario the he playing the typical father-in-law role says the the villain Bollywood father-in-law says I'm never going to let this happen.

So now he he's having an argument with his own daughter Masa because she says no I put out this condition I accept. He says that no this is uh this guy is a peasant. He's too poor. So some people come to him and they say look listen you are like royalty in kinder. If you go back on your word, if you rene people will think of you like a man, all he has is his word and you openly set out this this whole fear and set this out and you had all these people come and try and do it and now this guy has

done it. For you to say I won't do it just shows that you are a you know you're the bad guy like you fall short. So he says what do you suggest? The guy says look accept it but place the mahar ridiculously high the mahar which exists in Islam as well which is really just like a a gift that a husband should give the wife but some people abuse it and this is really a jahili custom from pre-Islam to abuse these things.

So the person tells him look just make a ridiculous mah. So he says, "Yeah, you got a point." So the next day in front of all the people he says he calls Mikdad and he says, "You know what?" He says that the proposal is valid and we accept it. So Mikd

was the thing that he sent out. Jabir says but but but he says okay there are conditions there's a mah so so people are listening says the mah is that you will get me for her 400 elite camels

400 elite horses, 100 maids like servants, 1,000 gold pieces, 1,000 bottles of perfume. He comes out with this ridiculous, absolute absurd list of demands that in the moment so captivated by the fact that this

wedding this marriage has been accepted in a moment of not even thinking not registering what's being said Okay. He says, "Okay." Jab thinks because Jab says to him, "Look, you will get me all these things or you can or the value of all these things basically this and remember there's several people droves of people are witnesses."

Mhmdad just accepts it. He says, "Okay." So Jabid looks around, thinks, "Is this guy feeling okay?" He says, "You know, you know, you've got that meme where the person says to that copper where he says to the copper that what's going on and he says, "We've had a description of uh someone like this lady uh doing vandalism down the road." And then the camera goes to the lady and it's it's like an old lady like a Pakistani lady in the UK.

It's like like somebody like our mom's age. And the guy says the cop says are you feeling okay? Cop says yes I'm absolutely fine. Thank you. A bit reminiscent of that. Jabid is thinking are you feeling okay? How are you going to be able to? And then Jabra thinks well it's not my problem. Do it then. Going back to that Mark Twain quote where he says to attain success in life often a person needs two things confidence

and some ignorance. that ignorance in the sense that you haven't thought things through fully because sometimes you have to start walking on the path and the path will unfold and if you sat there trying to figure it out you just frighten the hell out of yourself and think there's no way I can achieve this but you need confidence that I can do it Allah and then you an unawareness of the details but you just set off.

So, Mdad just sets off. And now he's thinking, well, what do I do? And back then, remember this is pre-Islam, one of the things that the tribes would do is they would raid. And he thinks, well, because this was their lifestyle, they would raid other tribes and raid things. And he thinks, I'm going to I know I'm going to raid some caravans.

So, he sets off and he's not that far from Mecca. and and he sees this caravan coming with hundreds of camels and he thinks, you know what, I'll raid this. So, he kind of sets a trap and and he surprises ambushes these people to raid them. And they say to him, "Look, whoa, whoa, whoa, these are camels and that which are dedicated to Makkah for like for religious purposes.

This is not like a business thing." So, so they say to him, "Look, whoa, you know, you seem like a very, you don't seem like somebody that's like a bandit or someone like what's going on?" This is one of those, "What's going on?" This is where, you know, you get like uh those memes where the FBI, which is spying on your phone, just says, "You're right, bro." Sends a message.

So, like, what's going on? So, so he tells them, "Look, this is what's going on." He says, "You're right. I'm I acted out of character, but I was just so desperate." So, they actually say, "Look, you know, your uncle, this guy, he's wrong to you. You this condition is ridiculous. He's just setting you up for failure. You cannot achieve this." And they say, "You know what? We will actually donate to you." Look at this.

Donate to you. There was a few of them. They say 100 camels each. But remember this is just a one thing of this long list of what he has to get. So he's overwhelmed. He gets these camels kind of takes them puts them in a location and he's thinking what should I do? Y where do I get this money from? But he has that devotion I am so in love with myasa that I must do this.

This is the path. And whilst he's wandering, he goes off solo for months, few months. He's he's he's off. He's trying to do his thing. Some people put him in the direction of some Persian Sassinid kind of resources that they have certain sanctuaries and certain where they uh keep a lot of kind of certain amount of whether it's going to be cattle and things and all this kind of stuff.

And they say to him, "You know what? Why don't you just go raid some of them? And he thinks it's the Sassined Empire and it's got no shortage of wealth. They got a thousand what do they say? A thousand uh what is it? Uh empire of a thousand different countries and and people and things point. So he goes to some of these uh um what could be considered like I suppose what you could consider today like uh massive stoages and he tries and he starts raiding them but they have some kind of security

and they put up some kind of resistance and he seems to be taking them out. They can't people are like what the hell? Who's this one guy? So even though they're putting up some resistance, he seems to be really overpowering them. And what happens is back then they had their own kind of bid system like a postal system. They would have like a certain person on a really fast horse that would run to a certain point, give another message, and that person would run to another point on horseback.

And so this message because this kind of attack lasts for a bunch of days and it's going on um it reaches the king that you know there's this guy and he's attacked and the king is intrigued that it's just one person and you guys are struggling to put up a resistance because they ask for reinforcements. The king says who is this man?

The king at the time he was purve what's it anushan the the the the assassinate kisra at the time he says look forget reinforcements he says I'll send a few people he says send an invite to this guy call him to my palace so and and they and he says look reassure him this is not a trap and he says you can if you want you can give him something as a sign of safety.

So they so they you know wave a truce and they come out and they say look he says I'm going to seize your stock. He says the truth he says forgive me man but it's going for a good cause. It's going for a love story but I'm going to have to seize your stuff. They say we got something better than this.

You've got a royal audience and a an invite to meet the king. King of kings. Remember back then they used to call him shah king of kings. So Mhd thinks about it. He thinks, "Yeah, I could raid this stock thing the storage or I could have an audience with the king, king of kings.

Let's check this out." So he goes off to into Persian territory and assassinates soil Allah and he's taken into the palace and the king seeing him is quite impressed that because they say he had a very strong like you could picture back then he must have been like they say he was tall strong built and and like had a had had this very this kind of aura to him.

So the Persian king is quite impressed with him. He says to him that what what were you doing? And he says look I'll um he says I was uh you know I was doing my business. He says what raiding my storage? He says h tax income tax. This was this a HMRC rate.

So he says the king of kingsh he says he says what kind of need was there that you needed to that you dare raid a place of the shahansa she says look this is a long story man long story this is in series tell me he says look I basically I love this girl and this is my thing.

So the king says acha and he says and you you're a warrior are you? And he says I am says acha. So he says what if you know back then the kings you know like the Romans as well they had this love for gladiator entertainment. So he says I tell you what he says whatever that list is that and more.

He says, "I'll double the value of it." If you can win it in the ghee, wherever you go, there's a challenge. No such thing as free lunches, huh? You got to, he says, entertainment. He says, "If you can fight it and win it, I'll give it to you." So, he says, "Okay." Says, "What do I have to do?" He says, "I'll put you in a in an arena and I'm going to release men that come to fight you

as a gladiator basically, but they will come in like they will keep coming in droves. Can you take them on?" And you can take much more as a reward than what you need. So you see the power of love, huh? Allah and that the path to determination you know him says he thinks I didn't come this far to only come this far says okay let's do it so they put him in they put him in this arena and they

start sending out some some kind of soldiers in like let's say in like a dozen But then what they and what Mdad is he's like a renowned he's an elitist you can imagine warrior. So but the issue here was not that they send out a dozen cuz they're just ordinary soldiers. They keep sending them. So as these kind of fall to the ground mo and mock come and they say that he did this and he is fighting and fighting and fighting and they're just being unfair in that way

and they say that a few hundred had passed like this. This is what the reports say. And at that point, check this out. When he wins, they say that, okay, some reports claim that he says that, okay, you've unlocked a final stage. You're unlocking. They go, you've unlocked the stage. We're going to unleash a lion.

And you have to defend yourself against the lion. Wow. that and they say he did. Some reports claim that they finally unleashed a line and he and he stood his ground against that. See sometimes in life if you have that one your eyes set on one thing you just and you see nothing except that that commitment that's the you know that I've that it's this or nothing all in

it's you method burn the ships It's either it's it's salvation is now just through the through the hurdle through the opposition to the other side and he stands although incredibly weak at the end of it but he stands victorious.

Allahbar they say that you know the he says all right man he says all right he says he said this guy says he's something and they say he gives him a reward and people vary some people say he gives him the things he asks some people say he had this specific ring which was worth so much because it was the Kisra's ring Uh, and that's not a picture of it, but that's just an example that he gives him that ring that was like triple the value

of all those things. So, he takes this back and with this he presents it and he earns the hand of Masa and he marries her. Allah abar. What a triumphant triumphant struggle and a love story that results in his in his kind of achievement of what he set his eyes and heart and his heart on.

It's amazing and I just I thought I got to share that with you guys. Makdad and Meyasa and he and in certain reports it's um in the in the coming years after that he comes to because he's already familiar with Makkah because at that time he comes there and he's familiar and he he builds a bond with somebody in Makkah who's by the name of Asad and his Kindi is from that tribe that he's originally from but in Makkah and when he comes to Makkah apparently um that person Asad declares his god ship for him says that you know what this is like my son.

So this is why he's known as Mikd and he becomes known by that name according to the makans and what happens in the coming year or two he hears of the prophets daw that to Islam and you know it's it's so true you know the hearts they see the hearts Allah the souls have a language of their own and no sooner does he come in contact with the prophet Phet sallallahu alaihi wasallam and the prophet's words that his heart opens and melts to it and he tells the prophet that look I embrace

this message. He is some people say he's one of the earliest people to embrace Islam. Some people say maybe he's the seventh or within the first 10 people that embrace Islam. But he asks the prophet in early days to allow him to keep it a secret because he was getting that guardianship of Asad meant a lot for him. And the prophet of course and you see Islam was always about accommodating and making ease.

People have come so much they've made such a difficult journey to reach the prophet no you must declare openly you are no no no prophet it's all cool be who you are stay who you are so long as I can connect you to God Allah and he has this this this love for the prophet honestly he since he meets the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam he has this such he holds the prophet in such esteem that they say you know when the prophet did hijra after hijra he

himself he's still back in Mecca and some of the uh non-Muslim tribes the kufur the Quraysh tribes are setting up groups to hunt people that are doing hijra so he in the guise of them along with a friend of them joins their kind of uh group hunting group and sets out towards Medina where they plan to ambush Muslims. This is before the battle of uh Badr I believe.

So this was at the um what was it? Rab I believe. But they he they he go there and he then um defects to the other side to the Muslims and shouts and they go off. And this really freaks out people like Abu Sufyan because uh they realize that oh we might so we've got maybe we've got Muslims in our midst that we don't know about. So he kind of calls off the attack.

But in his days of Islam he not only witnesses every difficult situation with the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam but you know in the battle of bada which was the first time Muslims were authorized. Allah says that uh that those people who have been oppressed, Allah has granted them permission that they raise arms in defense.

This was the first time Muslims were going to raise the they kind of stand in a military defense in the battle of Badr. And you know when they got there there was the Muslims were very underequipped and they were really going for the caravan because the the Muslims had lost a lot of wealth and they so this was a strategic thing to the caravan was coming to get the caravan because it would have had a lot of goods that would have equally belonged to many of the Muslims because they'd left when the Muslims left Mecca the non-Muslims had seized their assets and seized their homes and all their wealth and everything.

So this was a chance to get back some of their wealth. Now, but the risk was that the Quraysh were also approaching with their army. So which comes first, the caravan or the and the Muslims were hoping it's just the caravan. They were not ready to fight cuz they were they were only 300 odd people and they didn't have many weapons and they only had a few people had had horses and and they were really you know they were not the morale was low and you know in that time um some of the people some people they

were speaking of quresh and they were saying damn you know this this is how they've set off and Quresh are like this and even saying that oh my god you know Quresh always they always just you know fall short and people are very critical in that critical mindset and the morale is that uhoh what if war breaks out what if we come face to face with the army of what are we going to do and the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam could see the morale was low and see it's impacting the prophet as well because he is amongst these people

and he's leading them. And you know when the flock around you is in low morale and you need to show them the way and sometimes you can't help but absorb because the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam is super and massively uh empathic. So the empathy and it drains your empathy sometimes in that time you know the they it's transmitted that the prophet is looking at people and it's he's slightly he looks as though he's a bit upset like as in he's a bit

sad not upset but a bit sad and they say mdad said to the prophet that he said to the prophet he said he said listen he said that he said if you go he said if you march forward he said we will not be like how the Israelites said to MS in the Quran that

that the verse of the Quran that they said to Moses you and your Lord go and fight we shall sit here and and relax basically he said no he said that know that if you go, we go with you. That he said that even if you go if you have to go through an abyss, we will go through that with you.

this they say that his words they really the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam lit up because it's so you know sometimes words are all it takes and showing that solidarity they say that with that the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam he stood and he told people that look we will stand firm and he led and even though the caravan came but the army of Quraysh had come first and the battle of Badr took place and the believers were triumphant.

They were successful even though before they were kind of all in dismay and many people there was low morale but when they won they say that they were so that they echoed the words of an amazing personality within Islam. I I really wanted to share that with you guys because I thought it's such a powerful story and and a personality who begins even pre-Islam has this this amazing legacy these stories and this pursuit for love and even when he comes to Islam his dedication and commitment

um for the prophet and for Islam is something we all are indebted today people I hope that's uh been been of of great um use to know. So, let's move on. I'm going to Wow, it is incredibly late. I think I'll probably have to wrap up today. You know what? Shall I share and bring on maybe one or two people and we could wrap this up.

But somebody and whilst I share this I'll what I'll do is I'll check if I've missed a super chat. Somebody said I've missed a super chat. I've shared the link. What lesson? Oh no. We've we've done that. Um um Sam Shukran, much love for the super sticker.

One who buys his soul and sets it free is not like one who sells his soul and imprisons it. Attributed to Alibabuk and Zanab for sharing that amazing uh quote. Let's have I missed any others. Um nope. I got that. Allah is all knowing.

I did cover that. Nora, I did cover that. Uh no, I think I've covered all of them. If I if I've missed a super chat, do let me know and I will cover that. Um okay, I've shared the link. Let's see. Um I have to right let me just quickly activate the Bluetooth. Ah, you know, emotional you know these stories are wonderful.

Honestly, I really love them. They inspire me so much and this is why I share them in the hope that they inspire you all as well and you can extend them to any aspect of life. They are simply speaking about passion and courage and and it could be about anything. It doesn't have to

trying to connect these. Let's see. You could do it. Okay, it didn't seem to connect. Um, let me try the other earphones. What is going on, people? What is going on? Okay, I think that's connected.

Cool. All right. So, we've got already imad. All right. How are you? All right. Things are good always. Allah be praised. How are you doing? And alhamdulillah. I was enjoying the life of I I've read it before but uh you know the way sometimes people tell this the lives of these great people that were

indebted to it you know it brings that love back. It is honestly it's you know inspiration is in many it can touch every aspect of our life like we when we see people exhibiting courage we don't have to be facing the same situation as them but we could be facing our own battles our own kind of metaphorical battles our struggles in life or and we just you know we take we kind of drink from that well of inspiration and we think a bit of courage Yeah, maybe we can make this work as

well. So, you know, you know, I was uh just on the title of the title that you chose to, you know, power of choice. I was in and out during the beginning part because, you know, it's it was early over here. So, I was, you know, busy. That's that's the story of our life really with this with this dunya just in and out. Yeah. In and out. So um I was just thinking about the power of choice and I was just thinking about for example um how it's there is um power in the choices that we take but I think there's actually even a greater power when you

take responsibility for the choices that you take. Wow. So I was thinking of for example Adam right Adam makes a mistake. However, he doesn't blame the other, right? He doesn't blame for example shaitan or he doesn't blame the other external factors. He takes that responsibility on himself and says so profound man I made the decision and then that's why he says that I have wronged myself and then he takes responsibility of the actions that he took.

That that is Imam Sab that is honestly that is incredibly profound. But I um just you saying that you know it's like you said there's many things that at times we may know but we we don't we realize them uh differently if and it hits differently if expressed in a certain way. Now I never really thought of it like that and now that you say it that yeah Adamisam like the Quran highlights the the the incident the story as him fat that he kind of uh that

he kind of repents himself he doesn't uh displace guilt and and doesn't try to displace blame and even if it was even if it is you know sometimes there's a great uh there this it's like majestic in the sense that even if there are explanation and I feel personally that now that you say this that this is probably one of the main morals of this story of Adam Alisam because on many occasion there's there's explanations there's you know there not even even there's it's not about things are not

even about somebody trying to be evil things can be about people trying to just do good just trying to as in good for themselves, you know, they're not trying to uh cause harm or anything and and so yet when things are wrong and there may be legitimate explanation in sometimes just saying look rather than cuz it becomes cuz in life in the dunya this just becomes an argument then doesn't it and it's just always yeah but you're not seeing it from my point you know to accept it say you know what you're right if not even if I there were reasons I can learn better from it

and next time there was an example of this right so um I was thinking about for example a car accident and I was doing a mental sort of game in my head I said like if I got hit by a car how would I react to that then I started playing out the different as in by the by the laws of physics and gravity how would you react no how would I react to the person hitting me oh you mean in a car.

Sorry, I thought physically getting hit by a car. I was thinking why are you thinking of these this masochistically of these kind of torturous events to to be grateful to God saying like okay so if I got run over by a tractor it's like so no I was trying to think if if I was in a car and another car hit me um how would I react to that and I was just thinking about like experiences in my life car accidents I've been in and how I've seen for example when for example

the car I was in as a kid maybe we were at fault how did the other person react and then maybe we were hit maybe we were hit react and I was sort of thinking you know when we get hit in a car accident and we're not at fault it's not our fault however how we react to that event is in our control.

Yeah. So either that's such Wow. So true, she so true. So So what I was thinking was, you know, if we could look at life like that. So you how would you react? I'm curious. Well, well to be honest, now it's a lot different from the Quranic guidance, but Allah now I im Jawad is going to put that. Is it is it It's Canada, isn't it?

Canada. Does it is it also gun crazy? Like it's not gun crazy like No, no, not that much. Okay. Okay. So, otherwise I thought he's going to put away the AK-47 and go, "Chello, I'll take the Tusp." [Laughter] But maybe, you know, in my naive days, maybe I would just scream at someone or maybe just react in a way like, "Oh, maybe if I'm in pain, obviously I would yell." But I what I mean is like, uh, I wouldn't yell and make the situation worse for the person because what had to be done is done.

However, how I react to that situation in any situation in your life. If you just focus on what you have control over, and that's the message I took from the event of Adam's life, right? That what we have control over. That's what Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala will ask you about is that how did how did you react to that person? See cuz if if I could just add to that I imam is that you see because there is a difference you see you could be justified if a person hits you crashes into you um you you like a

reaction is justified but this is where you rise above just simply reacting because no person in their sane mind is willfully going to want to hit your car with their car. This is equally as damning for them because they know that damn it's you know I've messed up here because they're going to suffer more as a consequence.

You know the on two occasions that come to my mind I was uh that I recall not in a dangerous way actually one time was with a bit of force but I was okay that somebody had crashed into me on two occasions. When I say crash, one time it was a crash. I was uh stopped at a traffic lights and the the this lady came and she just all I heard was just like bang.

And you know, it's so weird because you hear the sound first and you try to figure out what it is and then you realize the car skidding and the car just went and nobody was ahead of me and it was like a wet road. It had been raining so the car at that time I I used to drive a Gulf and it just went st like just skid ahead and it just kind of stopped like maybe like uh 10 mters further just kind because the road was just all wet.

Um that was one time and the other time um I was actually parked I was parked outside a shop and it was Eid morning and I'd just come back and sh I was sitting in my that was in my Range Rover and the car ahead of me the lady once again a lady I'm not making a judgment here she had uh I don't know I think she tried to start her car and stalled and it jumped like the car leaped or I don't know whether she started in reverse or whatever but it came straight back and It just went bang into my and the first thing I thought was damn did I accidentally drive forward and I looked and my car was switched off.

I didn't even it wasn't even on and I thought huh and then I realized oh she's hitting to me and you know on both occasions I say I'm this is like honestly like my first reaction was to get out and see what the hell has happened here and on both occasions the damage was reasonably imperceptible like I couldn't see like I'm sure they like later on we realized on both occasions there was some tiny amount of damage like the the bumper had been slightly realigned and and stuff like this and but very minimal damage and I'm being

honest with you like and Allah knows as a witness I on both occasions would have let it slide uh even on with the Range Rover I would have let it slide because I couldn't see any real damage and I just thought you know wall I was calm And on both occasions, the women started shouting at me and I I couldn't I couldn't believe what the hell is going on.

Like the audacity like on the time with the with the golf where the lady had actually slammed into me and my car, I I went I got out the car and went up to her and I said to her, I just said like, "Um, can I have your insurance?" And she just starts shouting. She goes to me, "What the hell is wrong with you?" And uh uh and she she started saying to me, "Are you insured?" And you know, they they both said this to me.

This is and it really annoyed me that uh the second one even more so because I think the second one thought, "Oh, you know, he's in this car and it's a bit flashy and he's wearing I don't know. I'm assuming I'm projecting like she must maybe she thought, you know, he's stepping out in this shawaram and maybe I doubt it. This guy is going to be insured." I you know on both occasions their attitude and wall had have they just come out and been normal and just said to them just been honest like which it was that it was an accident obviously wouldn't do that purposely nobody's going to hit somebody purposely and I get that and I couldn't see any damage and if they just

said look I'm really sorry I didn't notice I was distracted I I would you know what I to me it was over and done with like I I just wasn't first because I couldn't see any damage So, on both occasions, them shouting and I couldn't believe that. Wait a minute. What's going on here? Like, are you actually shouting at me for crashing into my car, I thought the nerve, the goddamn nerve.

And on both occasions, I took it through, made sure, followed through with action, and I made sure that they had to pay for that. like they had to because you know what that was like because it's a so and the audacity was so funny is the second time the Ewan just to kind of I was standing outside a shop it was like morning and the shopkeepers were standing outside watching this and I get out the car and she starts shouting and I said to her look listen you need to calm yourself down and I went took photographs she go don't take photographs of my car I said look uh and then I said to her can I have your insurance detail.

She said, "I don't ain't going to give you anything." I said, "That's fine. I'm going to call the police." And then she's like, "Um," she goes, "I'm going to call my boyfriend." I thought, "Well, this is not really the time for me to start a new relationship. If that's what you're offering in compensation, I'm not really interested in your boy." I said, "Good. Call him." I said, "I'm right here.

Call him." So, I know I walked into I walked into the shop where I was going. I I obviously I took a photograph of her her regge and everything and this the thing and and then I uh oh no this is it. I called the cops and the cops said look have you taken the regge? They said well it's illegal for her not to share details. They said look just take the details and take the photographs and just leave. They said you that's fine.

So I went into the shop and the shopkeepers said look we witnessed it all. we're witnesses. Like, you know, it's not your kind of thing, not your fault. And the ladies is being very rude. I did my shopping. I walk out and her boyfriend's standing there. And you know what? I honestly I really felt sorry for this guy because you could tell that this was clearly one of those cases.

And she's, you know what, when I was walking into the shop, she was yelling to her boyfriend on the phone saying, "Oh, you know what? He's intimidating me. And I was on when when she was saying that I was on the phone to the police at the time and I said I said look I nobody's intimidated. I said you don't need to lie. I said there's people watching. Yeah. I said nobody's intimidating you. I just asked for your insurance details. And the police could hear that as well. So when I came out the shop, the boyfriend's there now.

So he he obviously he see he can see me. And so I walk up to the car and you could tell he was so fed up with her. You know what? He was so fed up to with her. And so I walked up to him and I said, "Look," I said, "She's crashed into my car or she's driven into it." And I said, I asked for the insurance details. So, and so he looks at the car and he goes, "It doesn't look so, you know, damaged." I said, "True." But I said that, "You know what?

I'm I'm going to get it properly checked up by Range Rover." So, and and he goes to me, "Yeah, of course." He goes, "Of course, mate. What details do you need?" And so, he he he's giving me the details. I take them down. She's like, "Don't give him the detail." And he starts shouting at her like saying, "Shut up. You have do my head in." And and I thought, "Look, what is wrong with people?" Like, look, to be honest, I was going to let whatever damage it was slide because it wasn't major damage.

And on top of that, you are now you've taken it to a point that I've reported it to the cops. You've had to try to drag your boyfriend into it who for clearly does not want any trouble. The boyfriend comes, he's more fed up with you thinking that, you know what, what the hell are you dragging me into? Like, okay, you've crashed into the guy's or you've hit his car. You know, it's an accident for God's sake. You know, you're you're trying to what what you want you want to turn this into something else.

And so, it's like a little bit of a goes a long way. And in this case to be honest they were even they were at fault but my point was even if you're not at fault a bit of grace you know this message from the Quran that look to always there's you know amazing hadith that that that you know this reaction reactionary temperament is from the shan and composure is from Rahman and It's beautiful that it doesn't even

just say God because it's from God, but it says Rahman because it's a Rahman that if you can hold yourself, it will always benefit you. Always. Yeah. Yeah. And and you know, I was just thinking of this now to um you know, I was just thinking of you know, and how the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam how he he doesn't hold it against them.

He doesn't hold it against them. He he he he cares more about how he's react right he's more focused on how should I react even though jubileam's giving him the offer of the two mountains right he's but he's saying but he's it's how he's reacting that now when you look at it it's always how the individual is reacting like if you now if you look through this lens at all the prophets and messengers through the Quran and prophet Muhammad sallallahu alaihi wasallam then you start to see how the how it's their individual reaction to what others are doing

honestly we take so much I want to one of the days I'll go over the story of um and it's such a this person who was from um from this very fighter tribe and he's and he's part of the the people who kill all the uh you know the the Quran that the prophet sends to teach Islam and he's like a nephew or something of mah but I'm going to go through the story some point and he's like a uh one of these he's not just he is feared and he's like he's a murderer but he's a he's very belligerent like he has this

attitude that he'll just kill people for a joke and this is in and he doesn't like Islam and in the ninth year of hri when delegations are coming he comes with bunn there's the bunny he comes to the prophet and the prophet can you know sometimes you can you know it's amazing Allah puts in our hearts that we can almost you know the hearts have a frequency you meet someone and you can just tell this is trouble like somebody nothing's happened person hasn't said anything but you can just tell that you know there's a

it's true isn't it like in life sometimes you could still that's the thing I'll one of the times I'll mention my I've mentioned it before like the incident you know when I got went on my kidnapping in Cairo but that moment in the car I sensed you know like you sense something's wrong but I just but you downplay you know the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam when he comes to to me in Medina and Some people get happy thinking, "Oh, he's going to become a Muslim." But he comes with the plot with another guy and he says to

him, "What we'll do is I'm going to go with no sword because obviously if I go, they're going to be very suspicious. You carry your sword. I'm going to get he says to him, I'll get Muhammad like I'll get the braid to a side. I'll make him facing me. We'll be away from the people. You strike him." And this was an assassination attempt. And you know the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam senses something's wrong with him and he he says to the prophet that he comes and he says that uh he says yeah Muhammad he says I want to talk to you and the prophet says no the prophet no because he was responsible for the death of so

many sahaba and the prophet says no until you bear testimony and he says look just come with me and the prophet says no and the prophet can see sh in his eyes and feel it and and the other person and at this point uh he says to the prophet look I've got no I'm I'm carrying no weapon look I'm you know I've got no just come to this side I want to talk to you and the prophet goes he says okay and he comes on a side to him and he has the prophet facing him and his other mate

comes behind and he's got uh a dagger or a sword or something and he his plan was as I engage the prophet you strike him and and the prophet has some conversation with him and he senses that this is is wrong and he starts doing like these kind of isharat with his eyes to the other guy like now now strike him strike him and the other person freezes and you know Allah how you know how things work in this world by you know by mysterious ways and the prophet turns and the other person's weapon just drops and and the prophet looks at him and says that you know there's I sense

nothing but like mischief like from you like trouble from you and he says to the prophet he says you think you're he says to the prophet you think you're something special he says and he says you know this whole of Medina I will fill it with men and horses attacking and raiding you and you know the prophet's helm you know this is wall we take is you know we learn from this character of the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam that not to react.

See, the prophet didn't draw his sword or say people catch him or let's beat him up or let's do this or let's do the prophet just looked at him and he walked and he like didn't engage him and he says something again and then he walks off and the prophet just makes a dua that ya Allah that you know handle him for me like you handle him for me and they say that following that he as he kind goes off to plot.

He he he he he he catches a disease and this is whe you know to him whether it's coincidental but on the way home he gets this they say this kind of uh lump growing and he has to stop in this house and he dies this death and he says that ah you know auda he says I have a lump and I die in this person's home with no glory and but it's amazing that you know this where the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam here this is Medina it's not difficult to say guys jump him.

You know, it's not difficult for the prophet to take out his sword. But no, the prophet is teaching you even in those moments that when somebody tried to take an attempt on his life, he teaches you that you know what don't don't don't react to don't be emotional. Don't react emotionally. Don't give into the reaction. Be calm always.

There's there's there's an there's a sublime elegance in that, isn't there? So So like when I was reflecting on that, it's for some reason I feel like sometimes it's rather not about reacting rather it's about letting everything sink in and then dictating what action should be taken, right? Yeah. So because because your reaction is sudden, right?

It's whatever comes to your mind, you react. But but if you let that sort of sink in then it's a little bit different right and it just comes back to uh how we need to learn how we need to learn so much from you can always you can always react even if it's with a delay you know a person if they if that's if if they want to just calculate it economically you know you want to kind of look at all the equation well you can always react even if it's with a delay but at least you can weigh everything out.

You can think about, you can think, you know, and hopefully you can choose the more compassion side. Um, yeah, but it was Scorpio saying, "I've had two guys slam into my car, but they were nice and offered to fix it, so I just let them go and it was fine." Allah bless. You know, it comes back to that um it comes back to that idea of if if you did something and you were in the fault or maybe you were the ignorant one, how would you want someone to be with you?

Right? So maybe someone may someone may Allah bless everyone. May Allah guide us all and purify our hearts and you know allow us to learn from the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam and the sahaba there's so much to learn from you know and there's so much wisdom in the and all of them that sometimes you know I think rather than just learning you know I had one mid and he said to me he's passed away now may

Allah grant him jah he he he said he said one thing. He said, you know, he said, "Anybody can learn." And then, and it was really weird because we were all just sitting there. No one was saying anything. We were all just sitting at the mid random. He's just You think, "Uh-oh, is he having an episode?" Yeah, we were scared. We thought maybe a lecture is coming.

Is he Is he Is he on a DMT trip? He He just randomly he's like, "Anybody can learn." And then I was like I was like what happened? Everyone got scared and he said anybody can learn. He said it's not about learning. It's about who's going to apply what they learn. He said that and then he stood up and he just left the masid and went home.

And and and then that sort of just stuck with me. It was one of those things where, you know, he was one of those teachers where he would say little, but he when when he would speak, it would be like he said something really big. Mhm. You know, and and you know, that really stuck with me. That's something I've like written down everything. It's it's not just about learning, it's about applying what you learn.

I mean, I' So, you know, here's I'd I'd like to if I can just footnote that. You see because I feel that a lot of people use that say that statement within religious uh the kind of religious sphere but you see how I'm understanding it is so just just to be because a lot of people so they use that to say like oh you know you've read for example that praying salah is always good or praying so you should always be praying nafal or you should always be and And even though

sure I mean I understand that's if they can do that themselves that's wonderful but that's not how I'm understanding this thing like like what you're saying this this kind of axiom see I understand it and this is just wanting to put that in front of you uh I im so get your thoughts that you see I'm understanding it like to mean that you see knowledge or these things are like they're like nutrients which should nourish you and you should grow into being a better human being

and sure you know like it's not to me it's not about information application in the sense that like oh I've read somewhere if you read 8 after this now why am I not praying because to be in all honesty I get it that we're all lazy and I don't think that's to me with this would apply it would apply more so about it nourishes is you to be a better human being to people and sure if you want to set high goals for yourself that's fine but it doesn't mean we've got to you know like now if I if I read something out to everyone right everybody who reads five Jews a day now why are you

not acting on it you know that's not uh so this so these are my thoughts on no no 100% the the idea that he was going for which I understood in the coming days sitting with him was that the idea that he was trying to push was that knowledge should help you grow as a person and actually help you understand PE different people. And then um uh one of his students who's now considered our uh he he actually quoted the ayah from right that we created you in the

different you know groups and so that yes so that you can get to know one another and he said you know and he said you know that's the idea that you study all these cultures these the history of all these human beings what is the point of uh studying history. It's to understand where your people come from, where the pe other people come from and to to better understand yourselves.

There should be more love between you guys, not more hatred. You know, many people they study history and try to use history as a way to boil blood that look at what this group did to us and we have to take payback. You know, it's not payback. Why do we amazing or how people can use things? People could use the best of things to be just still. Exactly. Why do we have to make the same mistakes they did?

Why can't we learn from them and say, "Look, they fought." But let let us not be like them. Let us be the ones who hug, not fight. Who don't use swords, use pens, right? Well, people Imam Sab Shukran for your kind words man. It's always amazing to have you on have a chat.

It's always illuminating. I mean may Allah bless you. Take care. Stay blessed all of you. Amen. Amen. People that was Imam Jawad from Canada. All right. As always inspiring us and illuminating us uh with his words. Uh what time is it? Boy, it is very late. I think we have to wrap up. You know what? I've got uh someone here.

I could just about just a quick greeting and uh let me just see. Perfect. Perfect. Salam. How are you doing? All right. Good. Alhamdulillah. Where where are you joining us from? Sweden. Sweden. Sweden. Wow. Okay. Wow. And I have been Oh my god. Yes. I have been writing you many times before but unfortunately you must be missing them.

Where where are you writing on? Uh I've been Facebook. Uh ah Facebook. Yeah. I need to chase up those messages. Are you on Instagram? Uh no I'm not. Okay. It's just Yeah, because I Yeah, I for some reason I I'm a lot more responsive on that. I think it's easier for me to send the messages. Maybe that's why and maybe because I get so many on Facebook that it just it's too daunting to even begin like so drop me a message on Instagram but okay so but tell us is is something you'd like to

share with us quite quickly maybe illuminate us with your with your with your thoughts. Um actually um I have something very very important and I've been banned banned by these extremist like EF Dava Sapion Institute. They don't allow me to say my view. Okay. Okay. First of all because I'm against their fabricated haditas. I'm not a Quranist.

Yeah. And they are very afraid of my my words. So I Yes. I believe that because I'm a converted Muslim. I sure yes um I actually I was u I'm born in a Muslim family but at the age of 25 I decided that God doesn't exist and alhamdulillah I wasn't judged by Bkari and his followers so I could uh leave learn and realize that I was wrong.

So Islam is the final message of Allah. So I converted to Islam but anyway Allah bless your journey. Yeah. Thank you. And I'm doing da and um it's wonderful you know this is this is this is the path isn't it of of this is life like we we live we learn we we kind of go through different sometimes we have to know things by contrast by opposites we have to have freedoms and this tying in with today the power of choice sometimes it's about choice as well a person feels that they might find all these problems with uh let's say faith they're saying oh this is a problem this is a problem this is a problem But this behavior is a

symptom of a deeper syndrome. Maybe they're unaware, but the syndrome is freedom. And what happens is the moment they're given freedom and they said, "Well, I I'm sick to die a death of this faith. I hate Islam. I like this somebody. I can't stand Muslims. I can't do." They're saying all these horrible things to Muslims to Islam. I say, "You know, it's okay. You know, you know, mate, we pray for you.

Go. You go in peace." Yes. And then, oh, okay, now that they they're on their own, then they think about, well, actually, you know what? Now I actually choose it. You know, it's amazing, isn't it? There's a hadith like that where the prophet, I believe it was uh uh is it I believe, or I believe, but but there was a companion, somebody who would come and he was imprisoned by the prophet because he came as an attack and and they said, "Would you accept Islam?" says, "No, I won't accept Islam." He's imprisoned and says, "What are you going to do if you kill me?

Watch. There's going to be payback." And and the prophet says, "You know what?" They feed him and and then they tell him, the prophet says, "Let him go." Yeah. And then when he he's freed, he saysall. And the prophet says, "Wow, I didn't expect that. I thought, why now?" And he says, "Because it's my choice." Yeah. Allah. He says, "It's my choice." Yes.

I choose it now. you're going to force me. He says all of you put together can't force me. Give me my choice. Uh but yeah, sorry. Yeah, it's okay. I just converted to Islam really not because God exists or you know Allah is the God and so on. I converted to Islam because I found Islam as the solution to every single problem we are facing on this planet. And I believe that Islam can guide us to a world without Shayan.

Okay. And that's why where EFA blocked me because they said no. Shayan is going to be with us always. Okay. I said first I said that Islam is the solution to every single problems. Do you accept it? They said yes. Then I said that if that's so then Islam has to get rid of the source. You cannot say I have the cure to your cancer but you have to live with this cancer and pain entire your life.

You have to get rid of the cancer because the body has the cancer and the cause of all these pain in the body is the cancer. So the cause of all this problem we are facing on this planet is Shayan. So that's why I would like to talk to someone like you. Okay. But of of course unfortunately is very bad today kind of over a lot. But do you want to talk about the shaitan?

Yes. And that's why I believe and I this is like mixed emotion that you're saying like you know I feel you're the best person uh to who understands the shaitan. I'm like I don't know how to where to put that comment. No but I just can't prove it through Quran Quranic verses and hadith that Islam can guide us to a world without Shayan. Okay. a word perfect word and but I I mean but okay sure sure it's I think this is I think it's the most important you know what's and what's your sorry what's your what's your name or what should we call you uh my this what should we call you

yeah my name is Muji but this is my my YouTube channel the perfect dava perfect yes I do debate you know different people even a AP is now running away from me that's apostate prophet Yes, I I had three debates with him and he also admitted he said that what you say is beautiful. If Islam is this, I wish wish you good luck. But he made a great mistake and now I want to debate him.

I wasn't debating him. Now he's running away. He showed how irrational he because within two days he decided I'm following a terrorist organization and uh you follow what you follow. Okay. Terrorist organization. You know he's very Well, I hope not. I hope not. No, I'm not. Exactly. This is this is exactly what showed that he's very irrational because within two days you cannot decide such a things and he decided about 1400 years ago.

In 21st century he cannot. I say it everywhere in 21st century you cannot learn to research not in two days you decide that I follow a terrorist organization because somebody tells you. Okay. So anyway, he's very afraid of now debating me because he knows that he made a great mistake. Sure. What is it you debate on? You debate on Islam versus uh is that what you debate on normally?

Yeah, I debated that why Islam is the solution to all our problems. Okay. Don't don't think about one verse here, one verse you don't understand. Think about the the solution to all problems that exist on this planet. We live in a beautiful world. Okay? Don't think that do you mean that by like as in a a mindset it generates a mindset which is one of u what do you mean it by like it actually has so for example somebody says uh oh my god my car road tax is running out uh Islam will tell me how to renew my road tax or Islam will obviously like that's a problem you

don't mean it like that that's a very superficial way of looking you in generating a mindset no no I I mean that shake Shan is the one who caused all these problems and I believe that Shayan is a system okay that guide us to all bad deeds encourage us to kill millions of people for becoming mill billionaires okay so if we get rid of the source which is allowing us by killing bill millions of people become rich do so do you so are you saying we could eliminate uhan shanan from from our

system together. Our life as in our life. Do you feel human beings can only be can become only good? Is that is that the I I tell you that Islam came not to punish you for your bad deeds. Islam. Yeah. No, not to punish. I mean like to get to get Yes. Let me tell the human nature. No.

Is going to have like good and bad to it. No, it's it's not about that. It's about the opportunity, okay, that allows you to kill people and become billionaire. For example, uh cigarette uh tobacco companies, they kill 5 million people on the planet every year. This we know, okay, every year five million people. So this system allows them to sell op tobacos, okay, to become billionaires by killing five million people.

So if we get rid of this system that they cannot sell cigarettes they will close down like equality equality equality have more equality on earth not more equality that's a noble cause just equality on earth absolute equality where we go in Mecca and we dress equal okay we say to Allah that we accept this equality because there we are not rich we are not poor we are all do you do you feel That's a utopian claim.

Like do you think the world would ever have just only because that that translates to let let me translate that that translates to and I could be misunderstanding this right but that's appears to translate to saying well let's have a world where everybody is nice and good to each other and and I I I I would love that world but I also accept that's just a utopian kind of myth because human nature there will always be people that are not going to abide by the rules and laws of there will always be psychopaths and sociopaths in society that they will exist hopefully they will be a minimum

and you know they will they will be a small tiny minority of people so I I love what you're saying in there should be absolute you know like prosperity across the world and everybody should have opportunities and every I love what you're saying although I do also feel that the way human nature is it's difficult I think if we can move at least some more towards that. It's a a great triumph.

My brother, my brother, let me give you example. Okay, who is Shayan? Okay, h Shayan um let me tell you that we know that Shayan is fooling everybody, okay, and causing all problems. Okay, I'm originally Iranian. Okay, 42 years ago, we we had a dictator called King. Okay, uh $1. Yes.

The shock of $1 was seven Iranian currency two month. Okay. $1. Average salary was $500. Okay. By the way, Quran says Shayan spread poverty among you and lead you to immorality. Okay. So now let me tell you this one. Okay. $17 two month and average.

Sure. Like I get it that there was economic stability. Yes. And then and then there were bad deeds. There were drugs. There were persecution. Everything was there. But we made a revolution. We wanted better life. Okay. The west especially UK they provided us with a dictator fascist dictator called and he came destroyed the country. Yes. He destroyed the country. They are robbing the country.

$1 today if you can check is 30,000 Persian two month 30,000 and average salary yes average salary is $75 despite everything are you saying let me explain let me explain zeroing that back in to let me explain let me explain so $75 more than 80% are under poverty line so what happens no I get that I get okay yeah now what happens what happens crimes Every bad deeds increased a thousand times.

So what happened? Shayan became stronger. Shayan became stronger. No, a more satanic system came to power. So system is the Satan. Okay. And then another example, our brothers and sisters in in Afghanistan, they produce 90% of the world opium despite they are Muslims. But farmers of Sweden, they don't produce a single gram of any drugs because the government take care of them.

So security, economic security reduced a lot of problems on this planet. So what I'm saying is that Islam is the last message of God is the uh what is it is the miracle of prophet Muhammad not because it says oh don't do that or don't do that because it is going to get rid of the source. Every bad deeds will disappear. And I can prove it through uh you know hadith through I mean I I get so from what I understand uh Mojib is that you see I get I get okay right so I understand this is what I from what I've grasped from what you're

saying that there are uh inequalities and there are systems which are corrupt and which exacerbate the situation so they make it much worse naturally. So, you know, if there's going to be civil war or if there's even if there's going to be corruption in a country, it will naturally have an exponential effect on things like crime, on bribery, on people getting away with stuff, on it has an exponential obviously net because it's it's not just corruption.

It means so many people do so many more things. So, what you're saying is I I get all of that. So, in saying look, we should eradicate corruption. we should aspire to um honesty. We should aspire to having good morals and ethics. I I absolutely commend that statement. But I think if you if I don't know if you are saying this but if you're saying that people are not responsible for the the agency of their actions but it is simply the shaitan

uh this kind of amorphous let's say uh demon figure the shaitan is he is only responsible and human beings are not responsible. So you're not saying that, are you? Because human beings are responsible for what they're doing. You can't say that we're not. So these people in Iran or in these other countries that are responsible for the corruption. Yes, they are responsible just as they are wherever they are in the world.

I know. I know. I say what I'm saying that is there is a system. I'm not saying Shayan is that demon or whatever or that angel or that jin. Okay. What I'm saying is that Shayan is the system. Okay. Let me put it in this way. They call me uh you know socialist or whatever but let them do that. The Shayan is the capitalist system that allows them Yes. allows them. Look now I understand social I I respect social.

Yes. But are you are you are you supporting for a kind of communist rule? Is that out of curiosity? No. No. I'm I'm saying that equality doesn't mean communism. It doesn't mean communism. I agree with socialism doesn't have to mean that either. True. My brother I say that that dress the rest of equality in Mecca is not just you know random and we prostrate through that say they show me the right way

is that equality which is in Mecca happening that that dress of equality in yeah those dress of equality yes dress of equality when dress there is no rich no poor Okay, there's no risk. So in this system we are living farmers of Afghanistan they produce opium because it gives them hundreds of dollars per kilo. Why they don't produce potatoes and tomatoes?

Because potatoes and tomatoes doesn't give them more money. It gives them five simple laws of supply and demand. Exactly. So let's I say let's get rid of that system like Sweden you know to make it more human they brought this gap to closer okay my brother they brought this gap closer they made a social democracy system here so you cannot become very rich you cannot become very poor that's why the farmers of Sweden they don't produce opium or any drugs because they don't need so I say get rid of that source which allows farmers of Sorry of Sudan.

Sweden. Sweden. Oh, where I'm living Sweden don't produce opium produce. Despite they are most of them are atheist. Okay. But why? Yeah. But is it just out of curiosity is it fertile territory to produce uh opium in Sweden? Would it be fertile territory for that? There are other things they can produce other drugs they can produce. They can produce or whatever.

Okay. So no no no it's not it's not because of they don't produce it because they cannot it's because they don't need the government take care of them. Okay farmers of Afghanistan they do it because they are poor. Okay so Shayan I said Quran sayan spread poverty among you and lead you to immorality. So if you get rid of I get it. So what I'm saying yes please just to sorry to just kind of reel it in because we've gone really over time so I'm going to have to wrap.

You know what? Let's let's but Shukran for but yes of course most welcome and it's a pleasure to hear your voice and to hear these thoughts. I don't think we fully understood them but I'm sure in the future we will understand what you're saying. Let my brother let's decide this is I say this is the most important part of Islam every problem is because of thean and we have to understand yeah if you don't understand go listen listen listen this is this is where if you understand this part of Islam life your life will be made this yeah I mean this is what what do you do by the way for are

you do you study do you work I'm a film yeah I'm a film director. Okay. And I film director. Yes. I made Yeah. Forget about this other talk. Talk talk about your film directing. Yeah. What films do you direct? I actually uh I made the documentary movies and then I made a movie also about this uh subject. The the last message forget about talk about this movie sound that sounds epic.

We should have I should have asked this question first. Yes. But but if uh any uh I would love to talk about this. This is very important, my brother. So if I have every Saturday live stream on my channel and I've got a feeling MJ I've got a feeling. See, Mjib is the one that replies. I've got a feeling you're you're going to you know what? You're on your way to eradicating the system.

You're on your way. But I'm not I'm not the I'm not the only one. Okay? I'm following an organization which I told you AP said that oh it's a terrorist organization that organization is fighting Iranian regime. Yes. Fighting Iranian regime. Yes. That's we we all believe in equality. Yes. We all believe in equality. And I'm not the only one. Okay. So I have all the You know what it kind of sounds like?

It almost seems like you're in some room all ready to to go out for some action. I hope not. No, I'm not. All right. This is like one of those movie clips where he says, "Okay, I just got to go out now and carry on shooting." No, not shooting. There's no shooting. It's just words. It's just words. And I persuading people. I feel there should always be, you know, there should always be discourse and dialogue.

Yes. Exactly. Um and definitely of course any the this bad bad corporate systems. Yeah. eradicate them in the process. If they if they need to sit somebody in their place and make a person a billionaire or whatever and you can't find anyone, I'll I can always help out and you can just put me temporarily. So maybe we can do it maybe we can do it once together little bit longer and more appropriate and we can talk about it.

is very sure although I think you've said everything now but but take of course of course next time if anybody would like to talk to me about that as I said every Saturday I have live stream on my channel the perfect hour so you can come and ask there and alhamdulillah I have been able to yes to persuade even uh you know this trinity channel they they hate Islam this Christianity TV channel that is all ah it's a it's a Islamop Sure.

Well, you know, people write guys, thank you. May Allah bless you. Likewise. Where can I write you M so that Instagram? Where where are you writing right now? On Facebook. I was writing on Facebook. Maybe I can write Facebook. Of course. Yeah, I'll check Facebook. What's your name on the perfect dawa?

No, on Facebook. No, on Facebook. Um, don't worry. You send it again. I will send it again so that we can we can talk inshallah longer because it's a very important subject. Absolutely. It's always very important. It's always very important people. Very important things on our way to inshallah deal with great issues. You know what? Speaking of great issues, I've gone on way too long guys.

Uh, [Laughter] you guys crack me up, man. You guys You guys, we're we're here solving all the problems of the world.

Uh, right. So, ah, you know what? It's been fun. It's been emotional. Guys, take very good care of yourselves. As always, if you need to reach out, you know where to reach out. Just uh uh I don't know if I should be saying Facebook. Facebook, reach out Facebook. Facebook, write to Facebook. I'm going to start replying to people there now.

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