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Hadithreport: umar said i would write the verse of stoning if people would not say he added to the book of allah
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Cited in 3 segments across 3 recordings · 2018 to 2020 · hadith/hadith:fp:57dd2ee7
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26 Jun 2020MindTrap with Mufti Abu Layth
Can hadith be sifted with criteria, or must the whole corpus be rejected?
Mufti Abu Layth says the Prophet's practice survives as a living tradition in fiqh and that he accepts a hadith only if it passes reason, the texts and the principles. The guest replies that narrators who fabricated a stoning verse forfeit all credibility, like a false witness in the Quran.
machine3 min 53 s48:57on YouTube
19 Jun 2020MindTrap with Mufti Abu Layth
Was there ever a verse of stoning in the Quran, and does stoning still apply?
The guest says Umar's 'verse of rajm' refers to the muharaba verse 5:33, from which exemplary punishment including stoning derives, and that it still applies to extreme crimes under strict conditions. Mufti Abu Layth holds that the Prophet only condoned stoning from Jewish practice until the lashing verse, and that under Maliki scholars like al-Burzuli the hudud change with the age.
machine5 min 14 s1:31:11on YouTube
30 Aug 2018BukhariGate: Issues with Sahih al-Bukhari
More troubling reports: Umar's stoning verse, the adulterous monkeys, women in hellfire
Reports such as monkeys stoning an adulterous monkey, women lacking intellect and women filling hellfire are fabricated or misunderstood. Adultery is a human institution that animals cannot commit, and most crime and bloodshed is committed by men.
machine3 min 57 s43:54on YouTube