# Why does Mufti Abu Layth say it is not a huge claim that Imam Malik denied the second coming?

*Summing up the reply to Qadhi: the one-eyed Dajjal, an invitation, and Iqbal*

- URL: https://muftiabulayth.org/r/zz85auzek5w/s/29/
- Date: 2021-04-06 · Kind: lesson · Transcript tier: machine · Recording: Monday Nights with Mufti #209 | Q&A Unscripted & Unrestricted! 😉 | Mufti Abu Layth (2:58:36–3:06:48)
- Status: general teaching
- Watch from the start of the segment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZ85AUzeK5w&t=10716s
- Recording page: https://muftiabulayth.org/r/zz85auzek5w/

**Topics:** Exchanges with Yasir Qadhi; The second coming of Jesus; Modern reformers and movements

**Summary (not a quotation; machine-made, unchecked):** Malik's record and Ibn Ashur's standing show a Maliki can deny the second coming, and the Dajjal reports insult the Prophet. He invites Qadhi to a dialogue on MindTrap.

**Checked position (checked by two independent reviews, not by the channel):** Mufti Abu Layth says it is not a huge claim that Imam Malik did not believe in the second coming, given his statement that Jesus died, the contents of the Muwatta and his fatwas, and that the reports of the one-eyed Dajjal and of the Prophet spying on Ibn Sayyad insult the Prophet's dignity.

**Evidence, his words at 3:01:01:** “I find that insulting and blasphemous to the honor and dignity of the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam to attribute this stuff to him.” (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZ85AUzeK5w&t=10861s)

## Longer summary

Mufti Abu Layth sums up why it is not a huge claim that Imam Malik did not believe in the second coming: Malik transmitted that Jesus died, removed such narrations from his book, brought only a report that clashes with Jesus killing pigs, and never taught the belief in over thirty-five thousand answers. He says Ibn Ashur, whom he considers an indirect teacher, was Shaykh al-Islam of the Malikis, and finds insulting the report that people should know their Lord is not one-eyed so as not to mistake the Dajjal for God, along with the reports of spying on Ibn Sayyad, his swelling, the island and the conflicting places of emergence. He invites Qadhi onto MindTrap for a meaningful dialogue in which each can question the other. He says that many in the last century denied the second coming, naming Allama Iqbal, at whose request, he says, a Maulana [?] wrote a book refuting it, and says critics avoid attacking Iqbal because of his standing in Pakistan. He brushes aside a joke question before moving on.

## Sources and names cited

- Imam Malik
- Isa (Jesus)
- Yasir Qadhi
- Ibn Ashur
- report: know that your lord is not one-eyed (on the dajjal, unresolved)
- Ibn Sayyad
- Tamim al-Dari
- Allama Muhammad Iqbal
- Ubaydullah Sindhi [?]
- Muhammad Abduh
- Dajjal

## Transcript (machine tier, 2:58:36–3:06:48)

[2:58:23] [music] [music] you're doing it. You're doing it. But this is uh this is some of the points that just to highlight and because there was so much in this to unpack we have to kind of spread it out really because it just it gets so overwhelming but that's already a huge amount like the sahi hadith these other hadith the absurdities the sperm bank under God's throne the thing of Abu Dali all of a sudden he realizes you know people hate

[2:59:02] on him in Bahan in Iran and all of a sudden the jal The antichrist is going to come from there. The verses of the Quran not you know apparently alleged by to be so clearcut nothing. We've taken a look at all of these and today we can see well actually no how can it's such a huge claim from Imam Malik. Why is it such a huge claim?

[2:59:27] The fact that he transmits Jesus died the fact that he removed any such narrations from his book. The fact that the only narration he did bring clashes and contradicts with this description of Jesus coming to kill pigs. The fact that he has widely I mean we have widely in print his fatawa books with rulings actual teachings with over answering over 35,000 questions yet not once telling people to believe in Jesus.

[2:59:56] Why is this such a huge claim? And then how can somebody be Maliki but yet look you've got legends like uh you know right in front of youn who's not only Maliki but sheh Islam of the Malikia and somebody I consider an indirect teacher of mine [laughter] [laughter] and then look at the beliefs this antichrist and the antichrist is this oh my god this greatest tragedy and and don't You find this insulting that they say the prophet said to people that you might get confused.

[3:00:34] You might get confused that the antichrist is God. So just know that your God doesn't have one eye. I mean just tell me. I mean is that seriously like what do people So what like okay God has two eyes. Like that's the the one feature that's going to save us from the Antichrist is knowing that Oh yeah. Oh. Oh yeah. Yeah. God doesn't have one eye.

[3:01:01] [laughter] I mean, is that really the feature that's going to save mankind from this deception? This is the the the unique the I find that insulting and blasphemous to the honor and dignity of the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam to attribute this stuff to him. And then the prophet is what in these hadith in Bkari and Muslim he's spying on this kid. He's hiding behind the trees and and then he's trying to oh what today we're going to find out if he is the antichrist and and then he gets caught out by his mom and the prophet says damn if only she hadn't said it.

[3:01:39] You know today we would have found out and then he's trying to debate this child. Okay, what am I hiding? And and then this child uh according to them the prophet said he is the antichrist when he gets angry and then in Sah Muslim he turns into the incredible Hulk. He's as big as the whole street. Oh and oh but he's in Medina. Oh yeah, but the prophet also said he can't be in Medina. Oh yeah, but the prophet also said he was on an island ship where Tamimadi got shipwrecked and he was a totally different person.

[3:02:07] Wasn't even from Arabia. Oh yeah, but the prophet also said, wasn't he going to be uh emerging in Obahan as Abu D? No, but he also said he's gonna appear by that lake in the Middle East. Oh, yes. Yes. Oh, no. But didn't it say that he was going to I mean, what is this? And why is this why is it absurd to question this being absurd?

[3:02:34] One would say that look this is is this not seriously this is why I would really want to come on mine trap let's have a discussion let's have a dialogue on these matters if they are that absurd and if they're that simple to destroy then why not have a discussion let's engage in a meaningful dialogue let's you can ask me questions I'll ask you questions [laughter] It's good to talk, man.

[3:03:06] It's good to talk. So, all right. So, that's um that's that for today. Disclosure with a big D. Huh? Going down, man. You're doing doing it with a big D. [laughter] Mini the Jal. Huh? Mini the gal. Big the jal. So, all right.

[3:03:29] Uh, somebody said, "You can say what you like, but the Oh, no. Are you talking to someone else? The lion doesn't worry about the opinion of the sheep like like me, man. No, you no because look is obviously he made he's made such a huge claim in this video like so many claims and he has addressed and this is a respectful dialogue that it is something which you know he's saying that it's impossible and he's misattributed and he said like this is

[3:04:06] some kind of a plot by uh Muhammad Abdul's cult to kind of like deceive the world and so Many people you know they say that this last uh century so many people have been vocal about this scholars [laughter] molanai he denied the second coming of Jesus he denied the mai he has a book on it but yet you see this is it it's embarrassing for people uh you know something they don't attack that's interesting thing, isn't it?

[3:04:45] Allah clearly denied the second coming of Jesus. He had write a book in refuting it. And in the in the preface, you see that Imi says that you know Alama has asked me to write this uh you know to refute this concept of the second coming and and then he has the whole book. It's a great book by the way. So but yet they won't criticize you know people they don't criticize Allahb because he's such an honored figure and dignified within Pakistan and this is why they're very weary because see Allahb was behind not

[3:05:24] behind but he was an inspiration also served for the creation of Pakistan and he was intell incredibly intelligent on matters of Islam as well they call him Alama but just because he had a shaved beard So they're like oh you know but they would never criticize never call him as Indik or mortad or never I mean maybe nonindopac people who don't know him but really even kadi would never dare to kind of like hurl these uh he might just say I don't really know about him then but you know because of who he

[3:06:02] was but molana obeyed a great deal you know He has a whole book on it. So you have the and you have people like Ashur this legend writing about it. You have all the great aharin writing about it. You have all these you know these enlightened thinkers. Cool. Let's move on people. Let's move on.

[3:06:27] Uh why Pakistan the holy land? I know. [laughter] Mo Mard has asked, "Is it haram to pee in the shower?" Mo, you're doing it, Mo. You're [laughter] I hope you're not doing it. These people, man. Right.

## Cite

Mufti Abu Layth Archive, segment zZ85AUzeK5w/s/29. https://muftiabulayth.org/r/zz85auzek5w/s/29/

Not a fatwa: these answers were given to specific people at specific times. Ask a qualified scholar about your own situation.
