# What does Edip Yuksel think of Sam Gerrans?

*On Sam Gerrans, and the number 19 as a test of bigotry*

- URL: https://muftiabulayth.org/r/zmirskjob4o/s/28/
- Date: 2020-06-26 · Kind: question · Transcript tier: machine · Recording: Prof. Edip Yuksel | Rejecting Hadith, Rashad Khalifa & Realizing '19' | MindTrap with Mufti #27 (2:26:56–2:29:34)
- Status: a view quoted in order to be discussed, not a position held
- Watch from the start of the segment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmIrskjob4o&t=8816s
- Recording page: https://muftiabulayth.org/r/zmirskjob4o/

**Topics:** Quran-only movement; How to read the Quran

**Question as asked:** What do you think of Sam Gerrans, who also follows the Quran alone?

**Summary (not a quotation; machine-made, unchecked):** The guest respects Sam Gerrans as articulate but says his failure to see the number 19 leads him to invent arbitrary meanings for the initial letters, and that 19 is a divine test of one's bigotry.

## Longer summary

Mufti Abu Layth reads a chat question asking the guest's view of Sam Gerrans, another Quran-alone writer. The guest says Gerrans is articulate and studious and he likes that, but that his inability to see the miracle of 19 makes him miss all twenty-nine initial-letter passages, for which he makes up arbitrary meanings without evidence. He says the Quran's verse about the number 19 states that it is a test that makes hypocrites and ingrates fail to see, so anyone who does not witness it has something wrong in his heart; he asks listeners not to rush to judgement either way but to study, comparing it to the camel of Salih that people dismissed, and says he cannot explain Gerrans' bigotry on this point. Mufti asks for final questions.

## Sources and names cited

- Edip Yuksel
- Sam Gerrans
- al-huruf al-muqatta'at (the initial letters)
- Salih

## Transcript (machine tier, 2:26:56–2:29:34)

[2:26:13] casted so some of the Egyptians believed that maybe the famines were due to them and plague was brought by them and they were dirty people and brought germs and things like that but you're right that verse is interesting I'll look into that personally right somebody's asked what do you think Ania said what do you think of some gerron's or some Garren's quran' alone some carols he's very articulate his very studious I like that and but his inability to see

[2:26:50] the miracle of number 19 is said he misses all all the 29 initials he makes up meaning for them arbitrarily absolutely arbitrarily through his head he brings that rabbits out as noses what's waiting for what phone number did you say for a number for the 40 Alif LAAM Meem kappa yeah inside okay he makes up meaning arbitrarily in his own is basically there is no evidence what is it he makes out but he knows the number 19 therefore ignorance of number

[2:27:29] 19 in the Quran says when I yield a decline be sure you may show me coming at a Fatima we had after you may share a mean come I get up at them and whatever this number 19 is to distinguish those who go forward or to stay back backward therefore says the hypocrites and chapters in grades will not witness a if we say what has got me by this number therefore this very number is a test fitna it is now right now a test if you are not witnessing it there is something wrong with you my brothers my sister absolutely but I want you to hold your

[2:28:09] judgment don't rushing to judgment study these this is God like in the past certain miracles shown to people like Sunnis camel don't sacrifice it this is very science and some people says old how can camel be miracles let me sacrifice it is a class and this one is number is a real intellectual test your own bigotry and whatever in your heart if you have that time you will not be able to see it therefore I want you to rush into the judgement whether it is true or not of course you are not in the position that I am now because I witness it I counted it and I know it is incredible

[2:28:49] I cannot explain because in the head and coober this number 19 is one of the biggest signs therefore his inability to see it and I think is a major problem on his side I wish that he didn't have that bigotry but it is his own test what can I say okay right are there are any final questions for professor here let's see if people are posting a lot of comments somebody did and some questions I don't know whether they're really meaningful but somebody had said just a professor

[2:29:26] feel that owning a slave is [ __ ] of course so it's [ __ ] well you become the you claim to be the rug of that person you claim that he is my AB that simple if you make someone your add you you become a pharaoh cannot be clearer than that in Arabic it's called Abdur Rab slave ease up and you become rad you claim to become rad besides God era bobbin Allah it is rhetoric of rejection of being any red besides God you say no but I will say another right beside you I'm like Pharoah in Arabic Medina

## Cite

Mufti Abu Layth Archive, segment ZmIrskjob4o/s/28. https://muftiabulayth.org/r/zmirskjob4o/s/28/

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