# Does the number 19 structure work in all the readings of the Quran?

*The qira'at: does the 19 structure hold across the Hafs and Warsh readings?*

- URL: https://muftiabulayth.org/r/zmirskjob4o/s/26/
- Date: 2020-06-26 · Kind: question · Transcript tier: machine · Recording: Prof. Edip Yuksel | Rejecting Hadith, Rashad Khalifa & Realizing '19' | MindTrap with Mufti #27 (2:21:49–2:24:24)
- Status: a view quoted in order to be discussed, not a position held
- Watch from the start of the segment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmIrskjob4o&t=8509s
- Recording page: https://muftiabulayth.org/r/zmirskjob4o/

**Topics:** Preservation and variant readings; Quran-only movement

**Question as asked:** What are your thoughts on the different recitations of the Quran: do you feel all of them are equally valid?

**Summary (not a quotation; machine-made, unchecked):** The guest says the 19 structure is found in the Hafs reading, where it revealed two spelling errors and two added verses, and that the Warsh reading differs little; he also expresses regard for Ghulam Ahmad Parwez.

## Longer summary

Mufti Abu Layth reads a chat question on the different recitations of the Quran, asking whether the guest holds all of them equally valid. The guest says that having found the incredibly precise 19 structure in the Hafs reading, which has an error-correction ability, he found in it a couple of spelling errors and two added verses, and that older manuscripts justified his conclusion in at least two important cases, so he has no doubt about it; the Warsh reading, he says, differs little and the mathematical structure cannot be counterfeited or faked. Mufti says he has heard others say the structure holds in Hafs but that they are unsure about other readings. A further chat question asks about Ghulam Ahmad Parwez of the subcontinent; the guest says he has not read much but likes him and thinks he was very close to the message of the Quran alone.

## Sources and names cited

- Edip Yuksel
- qira'at
- Hafs
- Warsh
- Ghulam Ahmad Parwez

## Transcript (machine tier, 2:21:49–2:24:24)

[2:21:46] deviants or misguided at the end of the day it's what makes sense to people and this kind of clerical approach about out casting people I'm personally against that that's not I mean that's just all about powers of position and things like that so just because somebody had asked a deep a question here you know the Quran the different recitations what are your thoughts on that is it only have some awesome this rewire that we have are you feeling that all of them are equally kind of valid or do you not have much thoughts on them well on the street

[2:22:25] I saw these awesomes version and it's called the which one is it has a solution are you talking about this house yes yes of watch yeah exactly on the street I saw this a half's version I found out that number 19 is in it an incredible mathematical structure it cannot be contained it's very precise and it has some error correction ability when I do check I found out in this version there are some errors spelling

[2:23:01] errors a couple of them and also two verses edit and when I check with the older many schools I found out it is justified at least in two very important cases and therefore I I don't have any doubt about that and the worst version is not much different there are few differences but I see that this is exactly mathematical structure Quran is in it it cannot be constants it cannot be faked sure I mean that's I've heard some other people say that as well that they've said that they feel the

[2:23:39] mathematical structures stand regarding this but they're not sure about the other readings somebody's asked a question here what are you do you have any thoughts on column ahmed perez who was from the indian subcontinent and from pakistan specifically and he was also rejected he's also part of the karani Brownian movement I haven't read much but as far as I know I like the person of course I may disagree with some of his position but I think that he was very close to the message of common alone mashallah that

[2:24:18] is commendable yeah alright somebody is asking a question but I can't seem to see the Arabic very clearly says what ilkka now Martin can't see the rest of it it seems to shouldn't this be this categorically imply that slavery should not be carried out right okay I'm not sure I can't unfortunately we see the roll down but really see I love in Bernice right Eli can see the pop up when he is right and I bet to be nice Ryu

## Cite

Mufti Abu Layth Archive, segment ZmIrskjob4o/s/26. https://muftiabulayth.org/r/zmirskjob4o/s/26/

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