# What happened between Musa and al-Khidr in Surat al-Kahf?

*Musa and al-Khidr in Surat al-Kahf and the hadith in al-Bukhari*

- URL: https://muftiabulayth.org/r/yy74xfro_e4/s/2/
- Date: 2019-01-14 · Kind: lesson · Transcript tier: machine · Recording: Who Was Khidr (a.s.)? -Mufti Abu Layth (2:35–8:22)
- Status: general teaching
- Watch from the start of the segment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yy74XfRo_E4&t=155s
- Recording page: https://muftiabulayth.org/r/yy74xfro_e4/

**Topics:** Moses; Tafsir and verse study

**Summary (not a quotation; machine-made, unchecked):** Musa and his companion travel to the meeting of two seas, meet a servant of Allah who damages a ship, kills a boy and repairs a wall, and is rebuked by Musa each time. Al-Bukhari's hadith adds the detail that Musa had claimed to be the most knowledgeable of people.

## Longer summary

Mufti Abu Layth turns to Surat al-Kahf from verse 60, where Musa and his young companion, named Yusha (Joshua) in the hadith, set off to reach the meeting of the two seas, lose their fish, and find a servant of Allah given special knowledge. He retells how this servant warns Musa he will not be patient, then damages a ship, kills a boy and repairs a wall, each time reprimanding Musa for objecting, before explaining that he acted by God's command. He then reads the fuller account in Sahih al-Bukhari, Book of Tafsir, hadith 4725: Sa'id ibn Jubayr tells Ibn Abbas that Nawf al-Bikali, a storyteller, claimed this was a different Musa, and Ibn Abbas calls him a liar, citing Ubayy ibn Ka'b from the Prophet. In that hadith Musa says he is the most knowledgeable of people, is told of a servant more knowledgeable at the meeting of the two seas, takes a fish, and with Yusha reaches a large rock, where they lay their heads down to sleep.

## Sources and names cited

- Quran 18:60-82 (Musa and the servant of Allah): https://quran.com/18/60-82
- Musa (Moses)
- al-Khidr
- Yusha ibn Nun (Joshua)
- Sahih al-Bukhari 4725 (Musa and al-Khidr, Book of Tafsir): https://sunnah.com/bukhari:4725
- Sahih al-Bukhari
- Sa'id ibn Jubayr
- Ibn Abbas
- Nawf al-Bikali
- Ubayy ibn Ka'b

## Transcript (machine tier, 2:35–8:22)

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[2:34] people say no because he would carry something that's green and and they've got different versions for why he was called her there now what is this whole story about what is this merchants and this is important because he is the the character the person that people say Allah is referring to in Surat al-kahf so if I open for us if we go to Surat al-kahf right how to be lemon Shaitaan or a team when we approach verse 60 in surah kahf

[3:14] allah mentions what is called a masala Fatah who Abra then I had abdominal Bahraini oh um dia praça ban now this is a story of Moses begins at this stage in Surat al-kahf and then it's about Moses and his assistant his kind of companion this young man who in the hadith you'll see is you shebna moon Joshua and they set off on this journey fallible of a madman a baby hey - Yahoo Tahoma Fatah Hadassah Villa who feel very sorry bah and they reached this place and they've they take some rest and they forget they

[3:53] have this fish and the fish kind of jumps out into the into the sea then they go off and and the whole point is that they are told that that was the place we were meant to go to where these two seas meet and here they meet it mentions for what their abdomen a bird in an art anatomy nineteen our alumni who militant our alma that they found a slave of us and this slave had been given certain knowledge and him and Moses go on this journey Coppola Allahu Musa hell attaboy Carla and and aluminum a limiter Russia so he asks him

[4:32] can I go with you on this journey and he says to him that this servant says that look you won't be able to keep up with me and you won't be able to be patient enough to put up with me and and Moses tells him no I will and and they set off on this journey and on this journey this this person had their or hidden I will call him hither I prefer hither hither he embarks on certain tasks and adventures amongst them they embark on a ship and he purposely damages the ship

[5:10] and then in another place he murders a child and then in another place he rectifies a broken wall Moses on each of these occasions objects heavily and each time is reprimanded for not being able to maintain his promise of staying silent and then Moses apologizes on each occasion and then eventually he is told some of the secrets and other says to him that or Martha Alto Annamarie that that's not something that I did out of my choice but this is what God had in

[5:47] and instructed or inspired me to do so now this the elaboration of this hadith we find in Sahil Bihari okay so and this is where we actually find the greater detail so this had the e things I'll be cutting this several hadith to do with Moses and Heather spanning several pages but this particular one in the book of tafseer where you have hadith four seven two four sorry after that beginning for seven to five well it's all a masala

[6:25] Fatah hula Abra who had two Elohim Albahari know under Yacouba so Musa says that I will go he tells him in Joshua that I will go so in this hadith it begins with side image obeyed saying to ignore that there's a person called knoefel miquelina no filmer kelly was somebody that would tell tales he was an orator he said that the Moses of Heather was a different Moses so he was saying this in their day and age society and Jubei tells this to Edna bus even our bus objects and says Cather but I do Allah that he's lying I heard a wave niqab

[7:05] tell me that the Prophet said in a Moosa pharmacotherapy bani israel Fasulo am-ness Arnim so musa one day stood and he preached and he said to people that somebody asked him if bani israel the israelites who is the most knowledgeable of people so he said i am because he was a prophet of god so at this stage that he is told by God that actually you these other people more knowledgeable than you why didn't you set off on this journey and he goes on this journey and for ojala alayhi anneli abdun so Allah tells him I have a servant who is by

[7:43] majima al-bahrain at a particular location with the two seas unite he is more knowledgeable than you so so he sets about on this journey he's told to take a fish with him and carry it so they go on they set off one palakollu would be fatter who so he's you shall I burn and moon so Joshua I mentioned inside Buhari his companions name is Joshua hatela Atia Sakura until they reached this big boulder this big rock what the ARA osama they placed their heads down they lay their heads phenomen

## Cite

Mufti Abu Layth Archive, segment yy74XfRo_E4/s/2. https://muftiabulayth.org/r/yy74xfro_e4/s/2/

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