# Is it wrong to judge someone who has become an atheist or left Islam?

*Alleged staged ruqya, charity appeals, and no compulsion in belief*

- URL: https://muftiabulayth.org/r/ypfqphdsbgg/s/3/
- Date: 2019-08-01 · Kind: lesson · Transcript tier: machine · Recording: Umm Abdullah & Hasanat Scandal | Mufti Abu Layth (10:45–16:28)
- Status: general teaching
- Watch from the start of the segment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPFQpHdSbGg&t=645s
- Recording page: https://muftiabulayth.org/r/ypfqphdsbgg/

**Topics:** Jinn possession; Zakat and charity; Salvation and non-Muslims

**Summary (not a quotation; machine-made, unchecked):** A person's atheism or doubts are their own choice and he does not judge them; what he objects to, he says, is staged exorcisms and charity money taken under false pretences.

**Checked position (checked by two independent reviews, not by the channel):** Mufti Abu Layth says that if a person is an atheist it is their choice, as there is no compulsion in Islam, and he does not judge people who have doubts or have left the faith.

**Evidence, his words at 13:56:** “if a person is an atheist it's his choice or her choice I believe there's no compulsion in Islam” (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPFQpHdSbGg&t=836s)

## Longer summary

Mufti Abu Layth says the couple used their platform to boost a ruqya and exorcism business, reportedly charging about 300 pounds a session, and that videos of exorcisms have been exposed as staged with the wife's involvement, rejecting the view that she was only a victim. He says the worst part was charity appeals, reportedly raising 300,000 pounds into a personal bank account, money people gave believing it would help Muslims such as the Rohingya. He says that if a person is an atheist it is their choice, that there is no compulsion in Islam, and that he does not judge people who have doubts, have left the faith or drink. His issue, he says, is the facade, the fake preaching and the perpetuation of superstition and jinn possession they did not themselves believe, while taking money for charity.

## Sources and names cited

- ruqya
- jinn
- Quran 2:256 (no compulsion in religion), alluded to: https://quran.com/2/256

## Transcript (machine tier, 10:45–16:28)

[10:07] it is nothing except perpetual deception their car his in the giko in the hired creeps that we have seen this world up and clothes that we've seen it from Sonia it is nothing but perpetual deception that these people that you know that are being start staging themselves this is the next layer of problem then the problems get worse they've then use this platform to boost

[10:44] the rakia exorcism business now the rukia from what I hear they've been charging let's say 300 pound an hour or something a session that we get rid of people's ghosts ha marry Bateen cha cha ha ha I'm sure I've got a few ghosts and demons you know they get we get rid of people's demons pay us money my cha cha and you know the videos that they make a lot of these videos have been exposed so some

[11:23] woman in niqab is that was her roxanna that was Bob the Lowe's real name is Roxana right that was her and now they've spotted her because I'm old like you know they thought she's got this kind of mark on her finger and they've shown it on the other photos and and this is them faking this to people you know oh he's taking the gin out look how powerful he is and then people are coming to him to fall further and to her the only non you know this and I want to say something you know these people

[12:00] saying oh she's a woman she's been victimized he did black magic on a they're all in on it get the nominal yeah man yeah you know how do you think this is DZ we're totally stupid or something they're all in on it she's making the fake videos with him she's pretending she's bringing in the crowds she's and then the worst part they're doing charity appeals Lord charity appeals yeah where they've

[12:40] raised three hundred thousand pounds on one occasion three hundred thousand pounds donated to a personal bank account personal bank account that - of who of some guy that him and hasanat were done on some terrorism charge for you know like so some personal bank account who apparently that guy saying oh he's other wife sister saris to manage that private account I don't know about he right but the point is that look these this is people's money you know you people are donating thinking they're sending money to Rohingya to help the Muslims little do

[13:19] they know the bloody funding modeling agency and funding a God knows you know maybe whatever is half a million pound worth apartment in Canary Wharf or whatever is or a million pound this is what their funding Charon qiji me their personal lives are not an issue like to me if they just you know drank alcohol even if they didn't believe in Allah because I heard that they were atheists a few years ago you know this I already my Intel already told me that

[13:56] but to me look if a person is an atheist it's his choice or her choice I believe there's no compulsion in Islam and if they want to talk to me but they've got questions I will not speak to anyone I've got no issues I mean I can't say I'll answer the questions but I can try but I don't judge people if they have doubts in the face or if they've left the faith or if they you know they drink alcohol or they do all these whatever things it doesn't you know I'm not the kind of person to judge people my issue is these things the facade the fake standards the preaching the fake

[14:36] preaching making perpetuating this narrative of Islam that even you don't believe in that setting up zeroes perpetuating this culture of superstition and jinn possessions which even you don't believe in youth you know it's fake you're just acting for God's sake no tankier it she's possessed in the photos and and they really live killing it killing it you know and then they've got all this fancy stuff going on and in all and then taking hundreds of thousands of pounds from people for

[15:14] Muslim charity and spending spending it on lavish holidays and living the life now hahaha she is on the run you know like you know I ramble once you got that slow motion he's like you know these are wise as a guru one set my school on say add me if not this zindagi made or the Firebug die somebody only runs this fast

[15:53] in life on two occasions yeah Olympic ki wrestle yeah police caucus for well it's either the Olympics or this one Dottie no police case you know so this one I don't think has a mouth is preparing for Olympics police got here say many John police car keys

## Cite

Mufti Abu Layth Archive, segment YPFQpHdSbGg/s/3. https://muftiabulayth.org/r/ypfqphdsbgg/s/3/

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