# Did Ibn Ashur say Muslims must believe Jesus was raised alive? *Shadee Elmasry's Instagram post on the second coming, and what Ibn Ashur actually says* - URL: https://muftiabulayth.org/r/xttbk-ral6a/s/1/ - Date: 2021-02-02 · Kind: lesson · Transcript tier: machine · Recording: Messiah, Masri & Misquotations | Mufti Abu Layth (0:00–8:00) - Status: a view quoted in order to be discussed, not a position held - Watch from the start of the segment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XttbK-raL6A&t=0s - Recording page: https://muftiabulayth.org/r/xttbk-ral6a/ **Topics:** The second coming of Jesus; Responses to critics; Contested verses **Summary (not a quotation; machine-made, unchecked):** Mufti Abu Layth shows that Ibn Ashur, quoted in Shadee Elmasry's post, held only that Jesus was not killed or crucified and was raised and saved, leaving how it happened open to interpretation. ## Longer summary After a musical opening, Mufti Abu Layth introduces Shadee Elmasry, mentions an earlier video of his on the man's competence and makes dismissive remarks about his PhD, saying his personal affairs are his own but preaching the religion is another matter. Mufti shows an Instagram post on the second coming of Jesus in which Shadee Elmasry, quoting Ibn Ashur, makes two points: that what must be believed from the Quran is that Jesus was neither killed nor crucified and that God raised him and saved him, anything else being doubtful; and that a group of companions narrated hadith on the second coming and nothing in the Quran goes against it. Mufti says the post portrays God as having raised Jesus miraculously alive, and shows the comment he left on it. Mufti then reads Ibn Ashur's own text, which says that what must be believed is that Jesus was not killed or crucified and that God raised and saved him, while how this happened, whether a real death, a later death or being raised alive, is open to interpretation (ihtimal), a matter Ibn Ashur discusses under the Al Imran verse. ## Sources and names cited - Shadee Elmasry - Ibn Ashur - al-Tahrir wa al-Tanwir (Ibn Ashur's tafsir) - Isa (Jesus) - Quran 4:157-158 (they did not kill him nor crucify him; God raised him to Himself): https://quran.com/4/157-158 - ihtimal (openness to interpretation) ## Transcript (machine tier, 0:00–8:00) [0:00] let's move on to something a bit more uh let me add a little bit of spice spice people let's add a little bit of a slice ah this one this one ah below it i'll be loving [Music] [0:39] so i don't know whether it's because of that reason decides to do more monkey business but i have a video on the incompetence of this man god knows how he achieved that phd which i did say by the way i do believe that phd thing is a partial scam as well but tell her another day another day another day that doesn't concern me you see your personal scams chelsea live it man live it live the life brother brother [1:16] live it man this is so that is your personal thing i've got no issues with however you want to do one two four four to go on but uh when you start preaching the religion rather this one big problem you know this one problem so what we've got now is uh those of you that are familiar shakeshaddy made a uh he made a an instagram post where he decided to speak about [1:59] and the controversial topic of the second coming of jesus christ [Laughter] so what say this one oh what's it so there you can see people dr massery [Music] now look at the misquoting he mentions two key points here one and what one must believe in [2:38] accordance to the text of the quran is that isa alaihissalam was neither killed nor crucified okay but allah has raised him to himself and saved now look look how he's portraying it he's portraying first of all as though allah has raised him miraculously alive this is how he's portraying and he's remember this is his quoting he's quoting this so he says uh from those saved him from those who are pursuing him and anything else is a matter of [3:14] doubt anything else is doubtful abit is doubtful this one second point second point strike twice they say lightning never strikes twice but shadil mubarak strikes twice so shadil mubarak says he says second part he says he quotes again ibn ashur a group of the companions of the messenger of allah ahadith about the second coming of asa so a group of companions narrated [3:56] and there is nothing in the quran that goes against the second coming of isa in the last days salem so obviously you know when something like that is going to happen you're going to get me and i have to kind of like do my little spice to that so i made a comment as you can see here on his post [4:35] so i said look uh i hope you read it properly the clock is ticking for monday night tick tock tick tock [Laughter] lo and behold people i thought in sun you know the actual ways in sun you know [5:09] but i like the way a particular person says it he says it says he almost in that pigeon huh so i thought isn't since i've also got this work so i thought what is uh so the first quote i find but i'm not going to leave you guys out of it [5:46] there it is my below ears right so he he says this is what is mandatory to believe in light of the quran that jesus was not killed and was not crucified and then he says [6:15] and allah raises him and he saves him from the people who are trying to kill him as to what is other than that meaning how does he go up was it an actual death was it does he die later on does he go up alive does he say you know how does this happen he says [6:46] not [Music] he says everything else is everything else he says he doesn't say everything else he says the other matters of how this happened says these matters are subject to etimal subject to interpretation okay and then he goes on to say and i've discussed this i discuss it previously i discuss it in the verse of the quran in surah [7:26] al-imran acha because there's a second point remember there's nothing in the quran that goes against this this uh uh this but you know there's nothing as he said there's nothing uh in the quran that goes against that so let's see man let's see so this [7:59] all right so this is the verse that you can see uh is now to do the famous verse to do with inimo tawafika i am giving you death what does ibn ashur say what is this one he says as you can see there's the apparent reading of the quran is i'm giving you death it says and then he goes on and he justifies why because that's what death actually means and he goes on to say ## 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