# What is Imran Hosein's approach, and why did he disagree with Israr Ahmed? *Imran Hosein's thinking, the age of Aisha, and his split with Israr Ahmed* - URL: https://muftiabulayth.org/r/wce73zqci_i/s/4/ - Date: 2020-07-10 · Kind: discussion · Transcript tier: machine · Recording: Shaykh Omar Baloch | Cynicism, Consumerism & the Catch 22 of Riba | Mindtrap with Mufti #30 (9:38–14:32) - Status: general teaching - Watch from the start of the segment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCe73zqCi_I&t=578s - Recording page: https://muftiabulayth.org/r/wce73zqci_i/ **Topics:** Views on contemporary scholars; The age of Aisha; End times and the Day of Judgement **Summary (not a quotation; machine-made, unchecked):** Mufti Abu Layth praises Imran Hosein's stand on the age of Aisha but finds his outlook almost conspiratorial; the guest says Imran Hosein and Israr Ahmed fell out over eschatology. ## Longer summary The guest says Imran Hosein thinks outside the box, integrating economics, the social sciences and world events with the tradition, and is critical of some things that have entered it, so that he and Mufti Abu Layth may share more than expected on hadith. Mufti says people have cut clips of his talks and Imran Hosein's together on similar topics and he can see the overlap. The guest gives Imran Hosein's argument that marrying a six-year-old is ruled out by the Quran's word for women, and Mufti says he is really glad Imran Hosein has spoken out about it passionately, adding that he has sometimes felt, perhaps misunderstanding him, that Imran Hosein has an almost conspiratorial outlook on the apocalyptic nature of this world. The guest replies that his overall view is bigger than that and very traditionally oriented. Asked about Israr Ahmed [?], the guest says the two did not get along on Islamic eschatology, that Israr Ahmed once told Imran Hosein not to discuss certain topics, and that, loving both, he thinks putting a ban on knowledge was wrong. ## Sources and names cited - Shaykh Omar Baloch - Imran Hosein - Israr Ahmed - Aisha ## Transcript (machine tier, 9:38–14:32) [8:58] started sharing my ideas with him and then I said you know it's it's interesting how stuff and bunny is right I was talking about the truth I can say what it is but just I was talking about the relationship between Sudanese right instead of God and he said shame Aruna said he said now you're beginning to think like a scholar so before that when I was in husband didn't count how is chef Imran Hussain as a person and you know how is his dynamic and personality I've never met him I've obviously come across his kind of the [9:38] whole his things online and he does think out of the box although you know he thinks differently but he does think out of the box one question is that aspect I mean you would be surprised you and him might find more similarities especially in there had these subjects subjects have had these for example because he's very critical of some of the things that have gotten into the tradition yeah but yes he does thinks I think outside the box but what he's doing again is what he's integrating economics and social sciences and what's happening in the world with the tradition right whether you agree or not that one [10:17] attempt that to do that yeah right you can disagree with him and but he's doing something he's trying to use religion as religion should be used to some degree and I'm not talking about the eschatology aspect of it and I'm talking about analyzing of the dean itself yeah I mean some people have put quite a few clips sometimes on YouTube I've seen and on some of these topics and they've kind of cut out segments of my talks and his talks that are on similar kind of flavors in some topics and they've kind [10:56] of this I've seen those talks and I can see exactly what you're saying that there's many things that I'm sure we kind of overlapping in our way of thinking right it's clearly there so the idea of marrying a six-year-old yeah could be thrown out just by this point one verse of the equipment min and Nisa means the find Nisa and then if you have the same definition as your own the same is saying then the the immature child is not acceptable yeah no 100% yeah I mean that's something an issue I'm really glad he's been speaking [11:36] out about in speaking out about it very passionately as well and I have watched his thing on that on YouTube and I think hamdulillah you know because even though we I do feel my personal sometimes I felt that okay he's he you know he has a very oriya peers to me I've maybe I'm misunderstanding it a almost a conspiratorial outlook towards you know the eschatology not the but the apocalyptic nature of this dunya how everything you know there's this huge conspiracy going on or it will be almost [12:14] like the Illuminati kind of thing even though I'm not sure if you ever refers to things like Illuminati but so salted and these kind of things i he's been very popular for you know he's like very well known for but when I saw the Aisha Age of Aisha video I was really I mean I was impressed and I was really glad as well that alhamdulillah that you know somebody who has a huge following he has a huge following and you know he's a speaking sense common sense to people so yeah yeah I mean if you only watch pieces of what he's saying it may come [12:51] out to seem like conspiracy oriented but I think if you look at his overall view it's it's that is a part of it but it's bigger than that and it's very traditionally oriented right so I mean we could talk about Islamic eschatology because that's one of my favorite subjects too because of shechem carnosine okay and you know and then hamdulillah we can agree to disagree no no of course no I mean that's what about I was curious what about dr. [13:23] Asad Ahmed was he also how because I mean I can see you've studied with you know through doctors right at my ear on from saying shame around but on the scene actually talks about this if you ever look up on YouTube shake him dr. Simon around to saying he will tell you that they didn't get along on this one topic okay what topic was that the topic of Islamic eschatology in fact okay the the kind of like it became very day was there in a meeting where dr. [13:56] Ayman told she come around saying not to discuss certain topics Big John was one of them Wow sames opinion which is correct I think it was wrong in a sense I love both of them but you know you cannot put a a ban on knowledge per se right just from a general perspective of course but but he just could not understand how Sheikh Imran is thinking on certain topics and this was one of those he because even though it had reached the same conclusions which is ## Cite Mufti Abu Layth Archive, segment wCe73zqCi_I/s/4. https://muftiabulayth.org/r/wce73zqci_i/s/4/ Not a fatwa: these answers were given to specific people at specific times. Ask a qualified scholar about your own situation.