# Is the world getting better or worse? *Is humanity on a positive trajectory? Rights, the economy and suffering* - URL: https://muftiabulayth.org/r/wce73zqci_i/s/18/ - Date: 2020-07-10 · Kind: discussion · Transcript tier: machine · Recording: Shaykh Omar Baloch | Cynicism, Consumerism & the Catch 22 of Riba | Mindtrap with Mufti #30 (1:05:36–1:08:50) - Status: general teaching - Watch from the start of the segment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCe73zqCi_I&t=3936s - Recording page: https://muftiabulayth.org/r/wce73zqci_i/ **Topics:** Islam and modernity; Guest conversations **Summary (not a quotation; machine-made, unchecked):** Mufti Abu Layth sees humanity heading in a more positive than negative direction; the guest says the loan-based Western economy will bust. ## Longer summary Mufti Abu Layth says he feels humanity is on a trajectory more positive than negative, with hope brighter than despair, pointing to the greater rights people now have, extending even to animals, pets and the environment. The guest raises the environment and says non-Muslims are more organised and have higher moral standards than many Muslims, but that someone else being wrong does not make the other right, and argues that the Western economic model is built on loans upon loans and will bust while ordinary people suffer. Mufti replies that suffering is an inherent part of living but is a spectrum, from terminal illness to the pangs of daily life, and that the West is not paradise but not a hellhole either. ## Sources and names cited - Shaykh Omar Baloch ## Transcript (machine tier, 1:05:36–1:08:50) [1:05:35] right I you see I would feel that humanity is on a trajectory and I would feel that that trajectory is more positive than negative I would feel that it's more optimistic than pessimistic and I would feel that the hope is brighter than the despair that's how I generally see the world going in humanity going because when good within you but the world but I mean doesn't it I mean do we live today in an in a day and age where we care we cannot like I said before we can't deny that we have [1:06:15] more rights as a species let alone us animals the environment pets anything let's talk about the environment okay what are we doing environment okay like as globalist absolutely because you know the problem is that the the non-muslims they're more organized than us and they have higher moral standards and a lot of our own people okay so that's a given okay but that doesn't necessarily speak to that D just just because someone is wrong doesn't make the other person [1:06:54] right right so if Muslims are wrong that doesn't make the other party right it has to be right or wrong on its own merits of course unquestionable okay so now having said that what is what the West is doing especially its economic model right which is a model that is it to me at least it one that you know is based upon this that's gonna bust basically there's no other way around it right I mean what what model is this that's going to bust that you feel that can't contain itself like what what is its model based upon loans and loans and [1:07:33] loans and loans that you have the richest country in the world because you you got to remember America is America the corporation meaning the government and then there's the American people American people are suffering people in any country your country they're suffering the governments could be as strong as they are but the people are suffering of course the you see because when we say when we say suffering I am I don't deny that they were suffering I mean unfortunately suffering is an inherent part of living now but it is a spectrum I mean suffering when we say [1:08:10] suffering I mean somebody suffering from a terminal disease to somebody just suffering from the pangs of day-to-day life you see yes people are suffering but I mean how does that they're not I mean people are equally that kind of suffering they are equally at some kind of peace as well there is some kind of you know there is a there is a sense people do there are amenities there are I'm not saying things are it's our paradise but it's not a hellhole either just look at the individual level right like okay let me break this down in it may be a more simple way ## Cite Mufti Abu Layth Archive, segment wCe73zqCi_I/s/18. https://muftiabulayth.org/r/wce73zqci_i/s/18/ Not a fatwa: these answers were given to specific people at specific times. Ask a qualified scholar about your own situation.