# Will people's better judgement win out over hatred?

*Will America spiral or recover? Mufti Abu Layth's optimism*

- URL: https://muftiabulayth.org/r/wce73zqci_i/s/10/
- Date: 2020-07-10 · Kind: discussion · Transcript tier: machine · Recording: Shaykh Omar Baloch | Cynicism, Consumerism & the Catch 22 of Riba | Mindtrap with Mufti #30 (36:13–38:47)
- Status: general teaching
- Watch from the start of the segment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCe73zqCi_I&t=2173s
- Recording page: https://muftiabulayth.org/r/wce73zqci_i/

**Topics:** Current events commentary; Guest conversations

**Summary (not a quotation; machine-made, unchecked):** Mufti Abu Layth is optimistic: he sees better judgement prevailing over time, especially among the young.

## Longer summary

Mufti Abu Layth asks whether the guest sees things spiralling out of control or the goodness and better judgement of people prevailing; the guest jokes about his home city of Chicago and says he is speaking academically. Mufti says that, from what he sees through the media in America and Europe, there is an underbelly of hatred but people are growing with time to see reason, and better judgement is prevailing, especially among younger people. Mufti cites the idea of some philosophers that new ideas prevail less by persuasion than because people with old ideas die and are replaced. The guest begins to answer by pointing to the police killing of a black man and the response of defunding the police.

## Sources and names cited

- Shaykh Omar Baloch

## Transcript (machine tier, 36:13–38:47)

[35:36] listening to me this is it's a matter of time you know it's just amazing it's a miracle of Allah that it hasn't happened that often but considering the amount of boiling that's happening under the waters right here the underbelly of the US right the bible-thumping America is angry and Trump represents that anger he has to play the role of black angry do you see this as I mean I do see a lot of these things that you're saying even though I'm not in America but through social media and other mediums i but do

[36:13] you see this the trajectory do you kind of see it just spiraling out of control or do you see more optimistically going towards people do you see the better that people that the kind of goodness will prevail the goodness in people the better judgment do you feel that no I was expecting yeah right so I mean I love Chicago I love the city I was born in right she town or is it SHhhh a town how do you

[36:52] say shy town also because it has Madonna's there so the people some people call it with that you know she can't go shitty anyway so anyway the point I'm trying to say is that no I'm talking academically rationally well you see don't you see the future you see the future as bleak you don't see as the better judgment of people you see because me I see I see everything I see maybe you you definitely would see the American situation better than me but from what I see as well of the world

[37:31] through media through the news through whatever through people I and even the situation in Europe whatever I actually do see yes there is all of these this kind of underbelly with the whole hatred and people kind of this this is kind of like the melting pot of all these emotions but I also see with time people are kind of growing to to see reason like they see that look like that there is a better judgement that I I do see it more prevailing and sometimes especially with the younger people and you know like some philosophers had said that

[38:09] it's not sometimes that new ideas prevail it's more that people with the old ideas just die they kind of replaced with people that have fresh ideas that's how new kind of thoughts prevail ultimately and I feel that the majority of like let's say this country I'm assuming America is is is now younger people and I do have her oh is it okay okay so we're different in that sense yeah and and see what is happening in America is that the so though so cops killed so just just consider this right

[38:46] so cops killed a black person yeah and in response to that they're defunding the cops they're literally taking away the money of the cops wait are they are they defunding or they just saying we're gonna kind of replace corrupt cops with better cops is that what they say this is the phase in between is a phase of anarchy right before you come up with this whole list of new cops that are actually properly trained and and and see the thing is not any solution is gonna be perfect right no matter how you push it or pull it but the the the

## Cite

Mufti Abu Layth Archive, segment wCe73zqCi_I/s/10. https://muftiabulayth.org/r/wce73zqci_i/s/10/

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