# Are jinn just archetypes in our unconscious mind?

*Mufti Abu Layth on jinn, consciousness and other dimensions*

- URL: https://muftiabulayth.org/r/w6tqwuuumcg/s/15/
- Date: 2020-10-27 · Kind: question · Transcript tier: machine · Recording: Monday Nights with Mufti #188 | Q&A Unscripted & Unrestricted! 😉 | Mufti Abu Layth (1:33:46–1:41:57)
- Status: general teaching
- Watch from the start of the segment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6TqWuUumCg&t=5626s
- Recording page: https://muftiabulayth.org/r/w6tqwuuumcg/

**Topics:** Jinn, angels and the devil; Spiritual experience and psychedelics; Soul, nafs and consciousness

**Question as asked:** Have you ever looked into the notion that the jinn are actually Jungian archetypes residing in our collective unconscious?

**Summary (not a quotation; machine-made, unchecked):** Mufti Abu Layth thinks the jinn are beings in a dimension of consciousness we cannot normally reach, not mental archetypes.

**Checked position (checked by two independent reviews, not by the channel):** Mufti Abu Layth says he thinks the jinn are things that exist in a dimension of consciousness that we generally do not have access to.

**Evidence, his words at 1:34:17:** “I think that these are the things that exist in a dimension of consciousness that we generally don't have access to” (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6TqWuUumCg&t=5657s)

## Longer summary

A super chat asks whether the jinn might be Jungian archetypes in the collective unconscious. Mufti Abu Layth says he has not looked into it, and that he thinks the jinn are not something in the mind but beings in a dimension of consciousness we generally cannot access, which people have encountered, often through psychedelics, as beings of light, since jinn simply means what cannot be seen. After brief replies on genetics, Mufti says Amazonian peoples' knowledge of which plants to combine is hard to explain by trial and error and suggests a communication beyond words. Answering a viewer who says he contradicted himself about Sulayman's ant, he clarifies that in the everyday realm nature does not speak to us, but in a vision it can, and notes that physics discusses ten or eleven dimensions. He also says the Muwatta is more authentic than Bukhari, with a shorter chain.

## Sources and names cited

- jinn
- collective unconscious
- Sulayman
- Quran 27:18 (the ant): https://quran.com/27/18
- Muwatta
- Sahih al-Bukhari

## Transcript (machine tier, 1:33:46–1:41:57)

[1:33:22] It wasn't strange to them. Now because this narrative already existed, Hisham leans in on it and he employs that eventually. But this is a development. He doesn't initially go with this. Initially he just says he married her and she was young and then he gives it an age. He says she was nine and then it develops.

[1:33:45] The story starts having more. actually he proposed when she was six uh and then went with her when she's nine and and the story develops. So yeah, I hope that helps. Salam again, Muy Ryan, you're doing it Christ. Have you ever looked into the notion that the jin are actually Yungian archetypes residing in our collective unconscious?

[1:34:17] H I haven't. You can send me something on that if you like. You see to me the jin they're not [clears throat] something in the mind but I think that these are the things that exist in a dimension of consciousness that we generally don't have access to and I think what happens is when people

[1:34:56] have reached a certain level of consciousness historically usually maybe unbeknownst to them but through psychedelics they have seen and communicated with beings that they can't identify some people like in South America in part of it they will call them the manari or and these beings beings can sometimes give information and there's different types of these these um illuminated essences these beings of light and I feel that these things

[1:35:33] are part of it is this jin thing that because jin just simply means the that which cannot be seen so I think that's what it kind of is a different dimension thing where so these people who have experienced that through um psychedelic means what they would see may be what is being referred to because that when a person experiences it is more real than they're real they don't think that you know it's not like a dream you wake up and you think oh it wasn't real it's actually very real it's

[1:36:12] more real than what you think is now so I that's what I would be inclined towards it is that like what people would term um you know they might give them different names. Somebody said Jawad says homosexuality is a mix of different factors. It's partially genetic. Literally everything is genetic in some way.

[1:36:44] link to that question. Ahmed Sahib is saying, I take if I just go up and I see this question. I um I can't see but somebody's referring to his question of anal sex is impure. [laughter] Nutty nutty.

[1:37:06] Well, impure meaning unclean, I take it. [laughter] Right. So, yeah. I mean, the the everything is genetic to some extent. Uh, somebody said the Anunnaki is some madeup BS. I don't know. You know, you see these things are are made up.

[1:37:33] You see, you say that until you experience it and you think, well, h, you know, it's interesting that people in the [clears throat] in the Amazon, you see the knowledge they have of certain things, it's so difficult that they could have just acquired that through trial and error.

[1:37:58] I mean like as an example like having 80,000 uh you know plant species around you and knowing that that and only a dozen contain these MAU inhibitors but knowing which one to combine with this to create and you could just say oh that's just pot luck but when they're asked how did you arrive at this knowledge and they say they they give you the answers they're not like they say it's because the plant spoke to [laughter] And I feel that it sounds crazy but I don't know you know I feel that

[1:38:35] there's a communication beyond words that it's not like a speech communication but it's not like they speak in words but there's a communication but it's beyond our dimension of consciousness and you know is not Everything ultimately a language is not mathematics a language is not the cosmos ultimately mathematical so I don't know but I guess in the everyday world it's just you know it's not obviously these are not part of our everyday life so we don't think of it

[1:39:14] until you go on a trip [laughter] you're like [laughter] there's this world as Well, all right. Uh, is the termite called Abdul Maj? I don't know what that means. Uh, right. Let's go down.

[1:39:38] Right. It's paradoxically though when you find modes of submission. Don't know. Is there any hadith on the virgin birth? You contradicted yourself with the ant of though. Yeah. I'm not saying that. Look, I said that.

[1:40:04] So you see in this general realm, right? Okay. I can accept that as well. But what just to clarify for people what I said in this everyday realm, our world is not like that. You know, nature doesn't communicate with us in our everyday realm. So if you're taking the picture of Sulmanis being in his normal state of mind like everyday world, then nature doesn't communicate.

[1:40:31] But if you're saying that so I had said that that would have been that this is as a vision it was shown to him that oh and the these ants are looking out for each other communicating for their safety and it kind of showed him wow the kind of majesty it just reflected on the majesty that he had but if you're saying to me that through some you know through a vision through consuming something um he saw this.

[1:41:03] It's still a vision, you know. It's not like uh you see when you go into that realm, that dimension, it's still it's not actually like it's not like something that's actually here in this realm that we can see. These are other dimensions which we don't normally have access to. You see, what's interesting is physics today is discussing dimensions.

[1:41:30] They're not just three, four dimensions. There's either 10 or 11. Where are these dimensions? One asks. Mhm. [laughter] All right. So, is the MA more authentic than Bkari love from Germany? Yes, it is. Unquestionably, it's much closer as a shorter chain. Um, it is more authentic.

[1:41:56] Right. Let's speak a bit about Khabib. I had mentioned we're going to speak about Khabib is doing it. Doing it. Right. That's it. His surname I always struggle with his surname. [laughter] Right. So, um I'm not particularly into watching many sports, but he is more than a sportsman.

## Cite

Mufti Abu Layth Archive, segment w6TqWuUumCg/s/15. https://muftiabulayth.org/r/w6tqwuuumcg/s/15/

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