# Do those who deny Jesus's return reject the unseen, as Yasir Qadhi claims? *Deniers as rejecters of the unseen: Mufti Abu Layth on belief, consciousness and being named a heretic* - URL: https://muftiabulayth.org/r/tr3nsx3ufy8/s/5/ - Date: 2021-03-14 · Kind: lesson · Transcript tier: machine · Recording: Reply to Yasir Qadhi's False Claims on 2nd Coming of Jesus | Mufti Abu Layth (22:25–26:18) - Status: general teaching - Watch from the start of the segment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TR3NSX3UFy8&t=1345s - Recording page: https://muftiabulayth.org/r/tr3nsx3ufy8/ **Topics:** Reason and revelation; Soul, nafs and consciousness; Exchanges with Yasir Qadhi **Summary (not a quotation; machine-made, unchecked):** Mufti Abu Layth rejects Qadhi's charge that deniers of the return refuse the unseen: belief itself concerns the unseen God, and Mufti is preoccupied with consciousness, which science cannot explain and which he understands to be non-local. Qadhi's clip names Mufti among the heretics. ## Longer summary In the clip Qadhi says that denial of the second coming and of miracles is a problem of people who refuse to accept the unseen, which he calls one notch below disbelief, and that this group follows Western scientific paradigms in which nothing outside the senses exists. Mufti Abu Layth replies that belief is all about God, who is unseen, and that nobody has a problem with that, nor with the unseen concept of consciousness; he says he is personally preoccupied with consciousness, which science does not currently understand, whose neural-correlate theory cannot be substantiated, and for which the evidence in his understanding argues for non-local consciousness, so the charge that deniers accept only what science affirms is false. The clip then charges those who hold this view with heresy and names Mufti among them, which Mufti replays, saying he will come back to it. The clip adds that all these figures, from Abduh down to the modern group, share the same arguments and define the Sunnah differently from the majority. ## Sources and names cited - Yasir Qadhi - Muhammad Abduh ## Transcript (machine tier, 22:25–26:18) [21:46] evolution theory that evolution was all natural evolution until adam and then adam was divinely placed there is from muhammad abdul and his teacher jamal nobody before them had ever said that but but sorry man i digress man so these are the first people to question miracles pay attention people pay attention type of people well-known this is the criterion between those who believe in and those who don't believe in and that's basically one charge short of kufr so this denial of the second coming and [22:24] these miracles is basically a problem with people who refuse to accept the unseen which is one notch below disbelief [Laughter] even though even though even though you see you see belief is all about god god is unseen nobody has a problem with that nobody has a problem with the concept of raw unconsciousness these kind of things even from a scientific perspective are unseen but still stale of hands still still let's pay attention pay attention [23:04] and he claimed that the reason why this entire group does not want to affirm the return of jesus is that they are following the western scientific paradigms of anything outside the senses uh cannot exist and that miracles cannot exist and that there's no such thing as the science of day of judgment and so so pay attention that these are why us deviants us [23:32] us deviants are misled because we're following science and simple empiricism nothing anything that cannot be substantiated tangibly does not exist one of the things that i'm personally so preoccupied with mentally is unconsciousness which is not you know currently in the realm of science it is not understood it is not doesn't have any real uh you know the neural correlate theory doesn't really uh it can't be substantiated and if anything the evidence argues for a non-local consciousness which by the way in my understanding is that i go on about [24:12] this all the time but it's because people allegedly struggle with anything that science does not affirm that they uh have a problem in with these miracles allegedly let's see let's pay attention people so basically he's charging them with being heretics by the monarch mufti abu leith and by the monarch and others as well [Music] monica we're gonna come back to this come back to this come back we come back to oh here we go come on let's play man let's [24:50] play all of these figures they have the same argument some of them are more developed than others uh firstly all of these figures back to my and others as well and uh all of these paradigms of anything outside the senses uh cannot exist and that miracles cannot exist and that there's no such thing as the science of day of judgment and so basically he's charging them with being uh heretics by the monarch mufti abu leith and by the money we'll come back to this little lady all of our speakers they have the same emotional back and forth and led by the monarch [25:36] pay attention pay attention pay attention man pay attention peoples some of them are more developed than others uh firstly all of these figures back to muhammad abdul all the way down to the modern group firstly all of them they have a different concept of the sunnah okay they define sunnah differently than the way that the majority of sunnah defines sunnah in fact right so this is an important point by the way since muhammad abdul i think we should put a big d in muhammad abdo [26:16] or big d though [Laughter] also means two and it can also mean to give give not one would give two to these people so muhammad abdul is the uh this school has come up with this notion to differentiate between hadith [Music] [Laughter] ## Cite Mufti Abu Layth Archive, segment TR3NSX3UFy8/s/5. https://muftiabulayth.org/r/tr3nsx3ufy8/s/5/ Not a fatwa: these answers were given to specific people at specific times. 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