# Are the chains of the 'women lack intellect' hadith sound?

*The chains of the 'lacking intellect' report examined*

- URL: https://muftiabulayth.org/r/tfzo7s3t_8o/s/6/
- Date: 2018-07-29 · Kind: lesson · Transcript tier: machine · Recording: Hadith Analysis: Did the Prophet ﷺ Refer to Women as Lacking Intellect and Faith? (30:42–39:55)
- Status: general teaching
- Watch from the start of the segment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFZo7S3T_8o&t=1842s
- Recording page: https://muftiabulayth.org/r/tfzo7s3t_8o/

**Topics:** Reports demeaning women; Narrator criticism; Sahih al-Bukhari (BukhariGate)

**Summary (not a quotation; machine-made, unchecked):** Not unquestionably: Mufti Abu Layth says every chain, in al-Bukhari, Muslim and elsewhere, has a weak or disputed link, too little to override the Quran.

**Checked position (checked by two independent reviews, not by the channel):** Mufti Abu Layth says all the chains of the report have some problem, so it is not unquestionably sound.

**Evidence, his words at 38:45:** “all of these people have some problems the reason I'm highlighting this is to show that look when these narrations already have AE they have problems in the chain they have these are not unquestionably sound” (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFZo7S3T_8o&t=2325s)

## Longer summary

Mufti Abu Layth goes quickly through the chains, beginning with al-Bukhari's chain from Abu Sa'id al-Khudri, where he points to a loose term of transmission, reports of strange narrations from one narrator, an alleged instance of tadlis by another, and confusion over which of two narrators of the same name is meant, one of whom critics called unknown. He says al-Bukhari elsewhere disguised the name of a teacher who had been criticised. For the chain in Sahih Muslim he points to a narrator al-Bukhari left out, a narrator who relied on books, and later narrators whom critics described as weak, mistaken or of poor memory, and he lists similar problems in the chains in Abu Dawud and other collections, including a narrator known for no other hadith. The captions garble most of the narrators' names. Mufti says all these narrations have some defect, so they are not unquestionably sound, and that critics should bring a bulletproof chain before overriding the Quran and the Prophet's reputation with a report that goes against the principles of Islam and has led to its ridicule.

## Sources and names cited

- report: women are the majority of the people of hell and lacking in intellect and faith (in Sahih al-Bukhari and Sahih Muslim, number not stated)
- Sahih al-Bukhari
- Sahih Muslim
- al-Bukhari
- Abu Sa'id al-Khudri
- Abu Dawud
- tadlis

## Transcript (machine tier, 30:42–39:55)

[30:04] murder warfare all these things genocide which are usually always caused by men and it seems to pick up as on these tiny things at these there is it is impossible this is a false miss attribution to the messenger of allah this is actually an insult to allah to his messenger to islam this is an insult to attribute these hadith to the messenger of allah so anybody that's asking look whenever you look at the validity of a hadith it has to measure up against the principles of islam now when we take a look at these chains by

[30:42] the way i will quite with some speed go through some of these just to highlight some of these issues so in Buhari this chain comes through side of nabi maryam through mohamed abrini geographer through say didn't Aslam really grabbed allah from sizable hood from abu zeid '''l houdry now you will see in this chain right first of all there's already one issue I just want to highlight because this is beau Hardy I'll just kind of highlight this give a bit of emphasis why is it that here it doesn't mention hadith onna that

[31:19] he cited know him as I did not murder me saying I heard although in some narrations he says I heard but without a complete hadith from this teacher of his from muhammad IBN jaafar here he says aburana which is a term used loosely when you when you may have read it from a book so that's one layer of uncertainty there happy says about side of nabi maryam that in his hadith you find haha if you find strange things transmitted although that happy tries to justify by saying maybe he's got so much encyclopedia knowledge but still that's a problem you know I find that as a huge

[31:59] kind of problem and you see the another issue he has a the Basilan now he's generally a well reliable scholar nobody's doubting that he's the son of Aslam who was the freed slave of Mohammed Abdullah poverty long on and but the interesting thing is he has on some occasions stunted least and at least one occasion he's known prevalent at least from abnormal that's been highlighted by if dr.

[32:27] Barr is been picked up by Hodja and people might say well he only did it as a one-off but still here he's doing I know that's problematic the next narrator is Al Dubin Abdullah now this al didn't Abdullah is mutashabiha because they're trying to say this is there's a famous there's a companion known as Abdul lightness I did nasarah the one who the profits paid on the conquest of Makkah because he was related to earth man and earth man he was like a foster brother they're trying to say this is his son but the interesting thing is there is exactly another I yelled Abdullah who transmits from Abu Zeid and hoody who also says

[33:06] the Aslam transmitted from he's also known as al dev nabis ahead and he has huge problems you know people like I leave no Medina says he's unknown even hajj or even speaks about the gardener Hillel as is he yell dignity so here is he yelled Abdullah there's all this confusion about him people might say look this isn't confusing for them they want this to believe that this is y'all didn't have the light Mossad but they don't mention that and this is not the first time that these Mohideen do this in my own Buhari for his own teacher as

[33:43] early mohamed abrini udderly he blacks his name on several occasions just so to confuse him with other names because he knows people will find problems with him and he's done it with at least one or two other robberies as well this is not me that he says this you know that does he transmitted from his teacher who's blacklisted he says he does it in all the 30 occasions by doing that least by by by using his grandfather's name so because he's got other teachers by that name so you get confused so to me this chain it's it's problematic you see the other chain in Buhari is exactly the same and y'all didn't you've got y'all didn't have the love

[34:22] once again who's a problem inside Muslim we've got Mohammed neuroma the Egyptian who says I heard a bird on a lathe from ignore hard from Abdullah Athena from Abdullah no Omar from The Messenger of Allah now the question here is Mohammed didn't aroma he's somebody who Bihari left out as a narrator and the question is why because he's somebody Abu Daoud said I even though of the outside look I mean I respect him as trustworthy but he said I never took a single hadith from him and here he doesn't even say I heard he says a banana you know that's that's that's interesting the other thing is LASIK

[35:00] inside although release it inside is an amazing scholar contemporary of Imam Ali but we know about him he used to take several hadith just in books Munna Willa and here he doesn't say I heard he says I'm Anna gonna write so and after like Nadine out right so after like Nadine are who's hearing from after lagna miss Ruth Allen okay Lee mentioned him in the buffer he mentions him from the week transmitters and he says that his chain has his hadith have they robbed turbulence in them the term Athene aeration has somebody called her aim even a missile okay even hogr says

[35:37] is barely acceptable who's heard from Abdul Aziz even though Mohammed there are worthy abuzer essays about him say he ill health he had pathetic memory right Rupa my Asti he would make mistakes in the sir he says he's not reliable who here's from Suhail who takes on so he live now be solid rock al says about him from Yahoo a blue marine layer below is not reliable about how team says we do not use him as evidence even high band says he makes mistakes okay next Abu Daoud I would I would transmit the same he's got the same I've done like Nadine are in the chain he's

[36:16] got a power here right a boot are here who's known as affirmative armor although about her team says he's okay but yeah if not today it said about him that he did not used to memorize and then the rest of the chain is the same let me just see right and we've got a chain in ignore Jose mer which comes from it's got mohamed abrini yeah and zachary apnea hey ban who here from if not be maryam same problem again from Mohammed didn't Jennifer who hear from Zaidan Aslam same problem again from a

[36:56] yard same problem again okay Abu behaved the next narration same problem of just highlighted already for who he is from Albuquerque is from Ahmed adapter from Abdul Aziz if there are were the same problem again he was problematic as oppose or on others have said who here's from Sohail same problem again even hey ban bring generation from photographer Bob who da Utne says that he's hadith some of his hadith had mistakes in there even Hydra even highlights that in one generation about him making a mistake who is from who transmits this from wonder who transmits this from wonder

[37:35] and even bundle Muhammad did not wash our alpha last actually is called him a liar I'm not saying but somebody's already highlighted it and some people had problematized his narration so who's taking from wonder who some people had said is their happy had little devil is coming right okay

[38:06] [Music] okay okay so point of mentioning this this goes on the chain got a bit distracted there this from implements old is transmitted from wild no Mahana who transmits no other hadith ever except this one now tell me is that a problem what people may say no but to me it is a problem of course that's a problem he's never known to transmit anything else the other hadith of apna headband is from Hassan Yousef yarn from Mohammed Meah hears early once again Ivanova maria muhammad Najaf are it not be Cathy they didn't Aslam a year same problem again people even emerges

[38:45] narration Muhammad did not Roma same problem again later come side on same problem McCain and I've not heard from even Abdullah Dunedin are same problem again so look all of these people have some problems the reason I'm highlighting this is to show that look when these narrations already have AE they have problems in the chain they have these are not unquestionably sound and anybody that's gonna critique what I'm gonna say tell them to bring an unquestionable unquestionably like a bulletproof is not because what they trying to do is

[39:23] override the Quran they trying to throw the reputation of the Prophet under the bus they're trying to insult Islam at least let them bring something conclusive rather than these chains which all have some Island they all have some problems that show that this is unacceptable especially since it goes against the program to start off with it goes against the principles it's full of contradictions in it right and it is something that has led to the ridicule of Islam

## Cite

Mufti Abu Layth Archive, segment TFZo7S3T_8o/s/6. https://muftiabulayth.org/r/tfzo7s3t_8o/s/6/

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